Jose, Thank you for agreeing withme. Finally somone else that makes sense. This to me is the only solution to all the problems we are discussing in Rangers. One Commander has already told me that Rangers is not a Democracy. I questioned why everything in the USA is but Rangers isn't. Now my only question now is, how to we make Springfield & National Leaders a Democracy? I belive there would be a lot less griping about different Ranger subjects if we did. Let's just try it a few times! I would have loved to see this done with the new program. As I saw the new materials tonight & I wasn't impressed with it yet. I'm still waiting. Thanks for your great comments Jose & keep them coming. Later, Marvelous (Outpost 130) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jose Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [RR] New program question?
> Then perhaps things need to change. Perhaps the Royal Ranger program needs > to be more Democratic than what we have now. This program is not the US > Congress or Senate. STOP WITH ALL THE POLITICS! This is suppose to be a > Christian ministry after all. A democratic vote would put to rest all of > these controveries that have been popping up in RangerNet like the new > program and the issue of women and girls in the Royal Ranger program. If > all of these changes are done democratically as Marvelous suggested then no > one would/should complain because the "majority" has spoken. The nation > would know that the MAJORIY of rangers agree or disagree on the subject at > hand instead of what we have now. I think sending ballots using the > leadership structure (National => Regional => District => Sectional => Area > => Outpost) would be a great idea. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Big Bear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 2:43 PM > Subject: Re: [RR] New program question? > > > > > > --- Marvelous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > To all Ranger-Net Commanders, > > > I have an idea that I want to run across you all & get all of your > > > civil (nice) reponses as to why it wasn't tried before this new program > > > was instituted. > > > > *Here's mine.. > > > > The format or content of a National Program called Royal Rangers > > was never intended to be Democratic. While a body meets yearly to > > represent regional intrests (the NRRC), it's obvious that > > the former Gold Track was the outcome of that "Team" effort and the > > new program a reaction to challanges placed from outside the NRRC. > > > > While in the past, individuals influenced and were granted a hand > > in developing program content, the final decision to alter the program > > was the duty of the NRRC, National Staff reporting to: Rev.Thomas Trask. > > > > Seeking input was done by representation, without feeling the need to > > fully take a Democratic vote of all participants. That said, there was > > great effort to explain the need for change and to win your support. > > > > *I'm sure you may remembered an attempt to share the program development > > with the regional roll outs by members of the National Staff with the > > "evolveing Powerpoint" presentation. > > > > It's true that what resulted is a compromise position, to answer many > > concerned "Outside" individuals over Traditional Royal Rangers leadership, > > and that might be seen as a turn away from Democratic RR values. > > > > Therefore No "formal" vote is needed. > > > > Your participation is desired, but if you find a hitch in your get-a-long > > you are free to vote with your feet. > > > > Hay-All Flavors,cheap! > > -=A=- > > > > This might work for future ideas that anyone in > > > Springfield comes up with that will affect all of USA Royal Rangers or > > > nationally. Here it is: > > > When they (whomever -pastor's comittee, national office, etc.) came up > > > with the idea for the new Ranger program. National Office should have > > > presented voting ballots to each District Commander for voting for or > > > against it the new ideas. Then each District Commander could have sent > > > out the ballots to each sectional Commander. Then the Sectional > > > Commander could have sent them out to each Senior Commander in His > > > section. Then each Senior Commander could have handed the ballots out > > > to all of their Commanders in their outpost & they could vote. Then all > > > the votes could have been sent back up the chain as they came down or > > > straight to their District Commander who would then send them into the > > > national office. The national office could then tally the votes & go by > > > what the majority of the Commanders say. This way every Commander could > > > have their say by vote & we would all feel better as to how it was > > > handled. We then could say we all voted & this was the results. This > > > idea might even work with the discussion of adding girls in Rangers. > > > Jonathan I even want to hear from you. > > > Later, > > > Commander Marvin > > > Outpost 130 > > > > > > > > > ===== > > *High MORALE is the Index of effective Leadership. > > --------------********+********-------------------- > > Morale raises belief of the Leader in the follower, > > of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself, > > and both in the .....cause! > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! News - Today's headlines > > http://news.yahoo.com > > _______ > > > > "Treat others the same way you want them to treat you." > > -- Luke 6:31 (NASB95) > > > > "Do to others as you would have them do to you." > > -- Luke 6:31 (NIV) > > > > List host: http://eBible.org/mpj/ List info: http://RangerNet.org/faq.htm > > > > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm > > _______ > > "Treat others the same way you want them to treat you." > -- Luke 6:31 (NASB95) > > "Do to others as you would have them do to you." > -- Luke 6:31 (NIV) > > List host: http://eBible.org/mpj/ List info: http://RangerNet.org/faq.htm > > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm > _______ "Treat others the same way you want them to treat you." -- Luke 6:31 (NASB95) "Do to others as you would have them do to you." -- Luke 6:31 (NIV) List host: http://eBible.org/mpj/ List info: http://RangerNet.org/faq.htm To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm
