Dear Commander Holland,
To responed to your e-mail I
decided to use part of an e-mail I sent to Bob Triphahn since my
response to his e-mail would respond to your comment regarding bombaring the
National office our votes before anything got decided or acted
upon:
I our
church we have business meetings in which we the congragation vote on certain
issues. Yes we do have a church board and they will vote on issues were
not allowed to vote on BUT on really big issues that affect the congragation we
do vote. So I'm not saying that EVERY LITTLE THING would be voted on, but
for BIG ISSUES like the new program or women in the Royal Rangers that would be
something that would be voted on by every chartered outpost in the
nation.
As for complaining, yes there might be a few people that would complain but not like we've been complaining here in RangerNet. We would not be criticizing the national office or thinking of "what if Cmdr Barnes was still alive" because we were the ones who voted and made the decision not them. The majority rules, the people have spoken, that type of thing. Once again the votes would be done for BIG ISSUES, issues and decisions that affect the Royal Rangers throughout this entire nation.
As for complaining, yes there might be a few people that would complain but not like we've been complaining here in RangerNet. We would not be criticizing the national office or thinking of "what if Cmdr Barnes was still alive" because we were the ones who voted and made the decision not them. The majority rules, the people have spoken, that type of thing. Once again the votes would be done for BIG ISSUES, issues and decisions that affect the Royal Rangers throughout this entire nation.
So as you just read the National office would
not be "bombarded with votes." The nationwide voting would only be for BIG
ISSUES. For example when the National office decided that the
ENTIRE Royal Ranger program had to be changed that
would have been an issue that should have had a nationwide vote like the
one Marvin was suggesting. The National office would still function the
what it does now, the only difference would be that our outpost would be
able to vote on the really big issues.
As for this statement I'm not sure what your trying
to get at:
Also, in this ministry, you say
"the majority would be lined up with God so
there would be no problem." Have you never met another Christian with a
difference of opinion on any subject matter? Or have you never met another
person in the ministry who wants to go in a different direction and claims
to have heard from God that their way is better?
there would be no problem." Have you never met another Christian with a
difference of opinion on any subject matter? Or have you never met another
person in the ministry who wants to go in a different direction and claims
to have heard from God that their way is better?
Yes I have met
many Christians with differences of opinion or any subject
matter. Also I have met another person in the ministry who wants to
go in a different direction and claims to have heard from God that their way is
better. The question is what does that have to do with anything. We
are individuals so of course we are going to have different opinons. For
example there are some commanders here who want women to have more of a role in
the program and there are commanders here who want girls to be allowed to join
Royal Rangers and of course there are Royal Ranger commanders who want things to
stay just the way they are. If the National office had a nation wide vote
on the issue the commanders from the different views would get to vote, and
based upon that vote the National office would know which of the three the
majority of commander want. And so subject would be voted upon based on
what the majoriy of commanders want.
So now we get to
your final paragraph:
Otherwise, just imagine the
difficulties of being able to focus
on the boys if we are too busy focusing on the subjects to vote on within
the "ministry."
on the boys if we are too busy focusing on the subjects to vote on within
the "ministry."
Who says
we're going to be too busy? Like I said before we would only vote for the
BIG ISSUES, every other discision would be up to the National office. Like
I said before the National office would still be the same except for big
issues.
----- Original Message -----
From: "D.J. Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jose Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 1:50
PM
Subject: Re: [RR] New program
question?
>
> I was not referring to democracy in the USA, I was referring to democracy in
> a ministry where we have appointed leaders by God to decide the focus and
> direction. If we were to bombard them with our votes before anything got
> decided or acted upon, then we would cease to become a ministry and become a
> beaurocracy.
>
> Also, in this ministry, you say "the majority would be lined up with God so
> there would be no problem." Have you never met another Christian with a
> difference of opinion on any subject matter? Or have you never met another
> person in the ministry who wants to go in a different direction and claims
> to have heard from God that their way is better?
>
> My entire point was that God has given the leadership to serve the Royal
> Rangers program and we need to be obedient, submit and follow the procedures
> for change. Otherwise, just imagine the difficulties of being able to focus
> on the boys if we are too busy focusing on the subjects to vote on within
> the "ministry."
>
> I hope this may clarify my position stated in my previous post.
>
> In His Grip,
>
> DJ
