Actually, virtually nothing in the USA is democratic. Charlie Davis Sr. Cmdr. OP 334 Potomac District
Marvelous wrote: > Jose, > Thank you for agreeing withme. Finally somone else that makes sense. > This to me is the only solution to all the problems we are discussing in > Rangers. One Commander has already told me that Rangers is not a Democracy. > I questioned why everything in the USA is but Rangers isn't. Now my only > question now is, how to we make Springfield & National Leaders a Democracy? > I belive there would be a lot less griping about different Ranger subjects > if we did. Let's just try it a few times! I would have loved to see this > done with the new program. As I saw the new materials tonight & I wasn't > impressed with it yet. I'm still waiting. Thanks for your great comments > Jose & keep them coming. > Later, > Marvelous > (Outpost 130) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jose Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:31 PM > Subject: Re: [RR] New program question? > > > >>Then perhaps things need to change. Perhaps the Royal Ranger program > > needs > >>to be more Democratic than what we have now. This program is not the US >>Congress or Senate. STOP WITH ALL THE POLITICS! This is suppose to be a >>Christian ministry after all. A democratic vote would put to rest all of >>these controveries that have been popping up in RangerNet like the new >>program and the issue of women and girls in the Royal Ranger program. If >>all of these changes are done democratically as Marvelous suggested then > > no > >>one would/should complain because the "majority" has spoken. The nation >>would know that the MAJORIY of rangers agree or disagree on the subject at >>hand instead of what we have now. I think sending ballots using the >>leadership structure (National => Regional => District => Sectional => > > Area > >>=> Outpost) would be a great idea. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Big Bear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 2:43 PM >>Subject: Re: [RR] New program question? >> >> >> >>>--- Marvelous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>>To all Ranger-Net Commanders, >>>> I have an idea that I want to run across you all & get all of your >>>>civil (nice) reponses as to why it wasn't tried before this new >>> > program > >>>>was instituted. >>> >>>*Here's mine.. >>> >>>The format or content of a National Program called Royal Rangers >>>was never intended to be Democratic. While a body meets yearly to >>>represent regional intrests (the NRRC), it's obvious that >>>the former Gold Track was the outcome of that "Team" effort and the >>>new program a reaction to challanges placed from outside the NRRC. >>> >>>While in the past, individuals influenced and were granted a hand >>>in developing program content, the final decision to alter the program >>>was the duty of the NRRC, National Staff reporting to: Rev.Thomas Trask. >>> >>>Seeking input was done by representation, without feeling the need to >>>fully take a Democratic vote of all participants. That said, there was >>>great effort to explain the need for change and to win your support. >>> >>>*I'm sure you may remembered an attempt to share the program development >>>with the regional roll outs by members of the National Staff with the >>>"evolveing Powerpoint" presentation. >>> >>>It's true that what resulted is a compromise position, to answer many >>>concerned "Outside" individuals over Traditional Royal Rangers >> > leadership, > >>>and that might be seen as a turn away from Democratic RR values. >>> >>>Therefore No "formal" vote is needed. >>> >>>Your participation is desired, but if you find a hitch in your >> > get-a-long > >>>you are free to vote with your feet. >>> >>>Hay-All Flavors,cheap! >>>-=A=- >>> >>> This might work for future ideas that anyone in >>> >>>>Springfield comes up with that will affect all of USA Royal Rangers or >>>>nationally. Here it is: >>>> When they (whomever -pastor's comittee, national office, etc.) came >>> > up > >>>>with the idea for the new Ranger program. National Office should have >>>>presented voting ballots to each District Commander for voting for or >>>>against it the new ideas. Then each District Commander could have >>> > sent > >>>>out the ballots to each sectional Commander. Then the Sectional >>>>Commander could have sent them out to each Senior Commander in His >>>>section. Then each Senior Commander could have handed the ballots out >>>>to all of their Commanders in their outpost & they could vote. Then >>> > all > >>>>the votes could have been sent back up the chain as they came down or >>>>straight to their District Commander who would then send them into the >>>>national office. The national office could then tally the votes & go >>> > by > >>>>what the majority of the Commanders say. This way every Commander >>> > could > >>>>have their say by vote & we would all feel better as to how it was >>>>handled. We then could say we all voted & this was the results. This >>>>idea might even work with the discussion of adding girls in Rangers. >>>> Jonathan I even want to hear from you. >>>> Later, >>>> Commander Marvin >>>> Outpost 130 >>>> >>> >>> >>>===== >>>*High MORALE is the Index of effective Leadership. >>>--------------********+********-------------------- >>>Morale raises belief of the Leader in the follower, >>>of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself, >>>and both in the .....cause! >>> >>>__________________________________________________ >>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>Yahoo! News - Today's headlines >>>http://news.yahoo.com >>>_______ >>> >>> "Treat others the same way you want them to treat you." >>> -- Luke 6:31 (NASB95) >>> >>> "Do to others as you would have them do to you." >>> -- Luke 6:31 (NIV) >>> >>> List host: http://eBible.org/mpj/ List info: >> > http://RangerNet.org/faq.htm > >>> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm >> >>_______ >> >> "Treat others the same way you want them to treat you." >> -- Luke 6:31 (NASB95) >> >> "Do to others as you would have them do to you." >> -- Luke 6:31 (NIV) >> >> List host: http://eBible.org/mpj/ List info: http://RangerNet.org/faq.htm >> >> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm >> > > > _______ > > "Treat others the same way you want them to treat you." > -- Luke 6:31 (NASB95) > > "Do to others as you would have them do to you." > -- Luke 6:31 (NIV) > > List host: http://eBible.org/mpj/ List info: http://RangerNet.org/faq.htm > > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm _______ "Treat others the same way you want them to treat you." -- Luke 6:31 (NASB95) "Do to others as you would have them do to you." -- Luke 6:31 (NIV) List host: http://eBible.org/mpj/ List info: http://RangerNet.org/faq.htm To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm
