Can we hear from others out there - that's 3 of us now that have had some
kind of issue with installing the new help files.

Anyone NOT have a problem?

David

David Blocker
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
781-784-1919
Fax: 781-784-1860
Cell: 339-206-0261
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RBG7-L Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:12 PM
Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work SUCCESS


> David, thanks for your thoughts and success.  I just did the re-start
option
> and that didn't work either.  I still get the "Action Cancelled" statement
> in the right hand window.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David M.
> Blocker
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:59 AM
> To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work SUCCESS
>
> I also report problems with the help files which eventually I overcame.
>
> I followed these steps:
>
> 1.  Downloaded and installed Release candidate 5 of Build 81 and build 10
of
> R:Base 7.5 2.  Zipped my existing help files into a file with PKZIP.
> Unfortunately, I did NOT realize help.rid was also a key file and did not
> back that one up.
> 3.  Downloaded each of the help zip files, unzipping them with PKZIP for
> Windows. IN the beginning I messed up: the default directory that came up,
> becuase it was the last one I had unizpped into, was C:\RBTI\RBG75 and I
> OK'd it and only after the first 3 did I realized my mistake.
> 4. So I started again and unzipped everything into the right directory.
> 5 Started up R:Base: any attempt to start help, by typing HELP at the R>
> prompt or
> clicking on the question mark icon hung R:Base.    I had to CTRL / ALT /
DEL
> to release it.
> 6. Figuring it might be my fault for unzipping in the wrong directory, I
> restored my original help files from my zip file AND restored the RID file
> from another PC.  No change 7. Reasoning maybe the problem was with build
> 81, I restored the previous build of 81: no change.
> 8.. Started up 7.5 and tried help: this also hung.
> 9. Copied help files for 7.5, including the RID file from aother PC and
> overwrote mine: no change.
>
> Throughout all of this, the files worked fine from explorer, but not from
> R:Base.
>
> FInally, knowing how wierd my PC gets sometime I shut it down, restarted
it
> and tried again.
>
> Everything now is fine. I restored release candidate 5, unzipped the new
> help files again, testing after each one just to be sure. Help works fine
> now.
>
> Go figure!
>
> David Blocker
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 781-784-1919
> Fax: 781-784-1860
> Cell: 339-206-0261
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paula Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "RBG7-L Mailing List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 6:07 PM
> Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work SUCCESS
>
>
> > John, Mike and Sami.....
> >
> > Thanks for all your help.  I just got everything working.
> > Here's what I found out.
> >
> > 1. When downloading the files from Rbase and then checking the zipped
> > files I got an "Unknown Publisher" message.
> > 2. When I unzipped them and then checked the Properties Box on the
> > unzipped files, I got the "File has been blocked" message.  I selected
> > UNBLOCK (had to do it for each and every file individually) 3. When I
> > had the problem yesterday, and couldn't open the files, I checked the
> > Properties Box on a couple of them and got an "Unknown Application" as
> > the application.  In my stupidity (I told you I'm not as experienced
> > as many of you) I changed it to "Rbase" instead of "HTML Help"  That
> > changed the properties for ALL of them.  Subsequent downloads seemed
> > to copy that property.
> > 4. So, I deleted all the help files, re-downloaded them, re-unzipped
> > them, made sure they all had HTML Help as the Application and
> > Unblocked each file
> >
> > VOILA!  Everything now works.
> >
> > I'm going to have to figure out what this new "File came from another
> > computer and has been blocked" deal is, as that's not happed before.
> > I use McAfee but have recently installed a Windows update as
> > well.....so one of them must have added a security feature I didn't have
> before.
> >
> > Thanks again to everyone!
> >
> > Paula Stuart
> > Community Development Strategies
> > 70 Summer Street
> > Somerville, MA 02143
> > 617-776-3367
> > 617-776-4554 (Fax)
> > 617-388-1331 (Cell)
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
> > Docherty
> > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 5:51 PM
> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work
> >
> >
> > Paula,
> >
> > I only have an RBG7.CHW file in my \RBTI\RBG7 directory.  The modified
> > time and date on this is about when I downloaded the new help files
> > today, as per your system.
> >
> > If I double-click on the help files, which XP identifies under Type as
> > Compiled HTML Files, they open immediately as expected as a help file.
> > Properties are fine as well.
> >
> > One thing I have noticed with downloading from RBTI is that if I have
> > Zone Alarm running, the updates are usually corrupted when I try to
> > run them (corrupted EXE file error appears)- I now disable ZA when I
> > download from RBTI - when I forget to do this I have problems. Do you
> > have anything like this running on your PC ?
> >
> > John Docherty
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paula
> > Stuart
> > Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 9:27 AM
> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work
> >
> > Does anyone know what the file RBASE.chw is?
> >
> > I've now re-downloaded the latest version of RB7.1 (Release Candidate5
> > 7/14/2005)  When I re-downloaded the help files, and looked through
> > the
> > RBG7 folder on my computer I found this file.  It's not in the
> > "typical install" documentation I have for XP.  It has a created date
> > of October
> > 2003 and a modified date of yesterday -- when I originally downloaded
> > the help files.
> >
> > Also, clicking on the individual help files in Windows explorer causes
> > dialog boxes to come up saying "unrecognized command, retype it" and
> > one that says "more than 10000 lines or 400 items in input line"
> > (happened clicking on the Gateway help)
> >
> > Also, clicking on the individual files to look at the properties shows
> > a message at the bottom that reads "This file came from another
> > computer and might be blocked to help protect this computer" with a
> > button next to it saying "unblock".  When I clicked that, and tried to
> > open the file...it made no difference.  I'm wondering if a Windows
> > update has caused some kind of a security lock on these.....
> >
> > Paula Stuart
> > Community Development Strategies
> > 70 Summer Street
> > Somerville, MA 02143
> > 617-776-3367
> > 617-776-4554 (Fax)
> > 617-388-1331 (Cell)
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
> > Docherty
> > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 4:33 PM
> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work
> >
> >
> > Paula,
> >
> > I use WinZip with XPP - however as suggested by Mike if you try
> > opening the actual downloaded files you will be able to check their
> > integrity, as they should be able to be displayed readily.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > John Docherty
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paula
> > Stuart
> > Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 8:09 AM
> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Running Windows XP there's a self-extractor that's part of the
> > operating system.  It's how I always unload the files.  They download
> > as zipped folders.  I select "extract all files" from the menu and
> > tell it what directory to send them to.  The unzipped files are coming
> > up with the date and time they were extracted.  I just assumed that
> > because they were overwriting the files that were already there.
> >
> > Paula Stuart
> > Community Development Strategies
> > 70 Summer Street
> > Somerville, MA 02143
> > 617-776-3367
> > 617-776-4554 (Fax)
> > 617-388-1331 (Cell)
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
> > Docherty
> > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 4:01 PM
> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work
> >
> >
> > Paula,
> >
> > I have just downloaded the zip files, unzipped them into the directory
> > where 7.1 resides and they work OK - the unzipped files are dated 14/7
> > 7:10pm (although it is 17/7 here) - how are you extracting the CHM
> > files from the downloaded zip files and changing the date etc ?
> >
> > One thing I did notice though is that they still tell you can update
> > multi-table views.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > John Docherty
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paula
> > Stuart
> > Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:29 AM
> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work
> >
> > Sami,
> >
> > They were dated 7/15/2005 and then I tried reloading them again from
> > the zipped files so now they're dated 7/16/2005.....or the date I
> > installed them.  Even after reloading them again I can't get them to
> > work...so now I have no working help files at all.
> >
> > Paula Stuart
> > Community Development Strategies
> > 70 Summer Street
> > Somerville, MA 02143
> > 617-776-3367
> > 617-776-4554 (Fax)
> > 617-388-1331 (Cell)
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sami
> > Aaron
> > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 12:21 PM
> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work
> >
> >
> > Paula -
> >
> > Mine seem to work just fine...  Go out to Windows Explorer and check
> > the dates on the chm files in your RBG7 folder to be sure they are all
> > dated 7/14.
> >
> > Sami
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Sami Aaron
> > Software Management Specialists
> > 913-915-1971
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paula
> > Stuart
> > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:44 PM
> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - Help Files Don't work
> >
> >
> > Hi Razzak....
> >
> >     I downloaded the new help files, unzipped them to RBTI\RBG7
> > directory as instructed.  Then I opened RBase and clicked on the help
> > icon and it came up with the index list on the left of the screen and
> > an internet page fault on the right with and ACTION CANCELLED page
> > error fault.
> >
> >     Do I have to do something besides extracting the files to the
> > correct directory?  I've never been sent to a web page when opening
> > help files before (unless I specifically selected going to online help).
> >
> >     Help
> >
> > Paula Stuart
> > Community Development Strategies
> > 70 Summer Street
> > Somerville, MA 02143
> > 617-776-3367
> > 617-776-4554 (Fax)
> > 617-388-1331 (Cell)
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
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