No trouble here, but I unzipped the files into a "holding" folder prior to 
transferring them to the RB7 directory.  I don't know if this is had an 
influence or not...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David M. Blocker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RBG7-L Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 12:13 AM
Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work SUCCESS


> Can we hear from others out there - that's 3 of us now that have had some
> kind of issue with installing the new help files.
>
> Anyone NOT have a problem?
>
> David
>
> David Blocker
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 781-784-1919
> Fax: 781-784-1860
> Cell: 339-206-0261
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "RBG7-L Mailing List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:12 PM
> Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work SUCCESS
>
>
>> David, thanks for your thoughts and success.  I just did the re-start
> option
>> and that didn't work either.  I still get the "Action Cancelled" statement
>> in the right hand window.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David M.
>> Blocker
>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:59 AM
>> To: RBG7-L Mailing List
>> Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work SUCCESS
>>
>> I also report problems with the help files which eventually I overcame.
>>
>> I followed these steps:
>>
>> 1.  Downloaded and installed Release candidate 5 of Build 81 and build 10
> of
>> R:Base 7.5 2.  Zipped my existing help files into a file with PKZIP.
>> Unfortunately, I did NOT realize help.rid was also a key file and did not
>> back that one up.
>> 3.  Downloaded each of the help zip files, unzipping them with PKZIP for
>> Windows. IN the beginning I messed up: the default directory that came up,
>> becuase it was the last one I had unizpped into, was C:\RBTI\RBG75 and I
>> OK'd it and only after the first 3 did I realized my mistake.
>> 4. So I started again and unzipped everything into the right directory.
>> 5 Started up R:Base: any attempt to start help, by typing HELP at the R>
>> prompt or
>> clicking on the question mark icon hung R:Base.    I had to CTRL / ALT /
> DEL
>> to release it.
>> 6. Figuring it might be my fault for unzipping in the wrong directory, I
>> restored my original help files from my zip file AND restored the RID file
>> from another PC.  No change 7. Reasoning maybe the problem was with build
>> 81, I restored the previous build of 81: no change.
>> 8.. Started up 7.5 and tried help: this also hung.
>> 9. Copied help files for 7.5, including the RID file from aother PC and
>> overwrote mine: no change.
>>
>> Throughout all of this, the files worked fine from explorer, but not from
>> R:Base.
>>
>> FInally, knowing how wierd my PC gets sometime I shut it down, restarted
> it
>> and tried again.
>>
>> Everything now is fine. I restored release candidate 5, unzipped the new
>> help files again, testing after each one just to be sure. Help works fine
>> now.
>>
>> Go figure!
>>
>> David Blocker
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 781-784-1919
>> Fax: 781-784-1860
>> Cell: 339-206-0261
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paula Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "RBG7-L Mailing List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 6:07 PM
>> Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work SUCCESS
>>
>>
>> > John, Mike and Sami.....
>> >
>> > Thanks for all your help.  I just got everything working.
>> > Here's what I found out.
>> >
>> > 1. When downloading the files from Rbase and then checking the zipped
>> > files I got an "Unknown Publisher" message.
>> > 2. When I unzipped them and then checked the Properties Box on the
>> > unzipped files, I got the "File has been blocked" message.  I selected
>> > UNBLOCK (had to do it for each and every file individually) 3. When I
>> > had the problem yesterday, and couldn't open the files, I checked the
>> > Properties Box on a couple of them and got an "Unknown Application" as
>> > the application.  In my stupidity (I told you I'm not as experienced
>> > as many of you) I changed it to "Rbase" instead of "HTML Help"  That
>> > changed the properties for ALL of them.  Subsequent downloads seemed
>> > to copy that property.
>> > 4. So, I deleted all the help files, re-downloaded them, re-unzipped
>> > them, made sure they all had HTML Help as the Application and
>> > Unblocked each file
>> >
>> > VOILA!  Everything now works.
>> >
>> > I'm going to have to figure out what this new "File came from another
>> > computer and has been blocked" deal is, as that's not happed before.
>> > I use McAfee but have recently installed a Windows update as
>> > well.....so one of them must have added a security feature I didn't have
>> before.
>> >
>> > Thanks again to everyone!
>> >
>> > Paula Stuart
>> > Community Development Strategies
>> > 70 Summer Street
>> > Somerville, MA 02143
>> > 617-776-3367
>> > 617-776-4554 (Fax)
>> > 617-388-1331 (Cell)
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
>> > Docherty
>> > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 5:51 PM
>> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
>> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work
>> >
>> >
>> > Paula,
>> >
>> > I only have an RBG7.CHW file in my \RBTI\RBG7 directory.  The modified
>> > time and date on this is about when I downloaded the new help files
>> > today, as per your system.
>> >
>> > If I double-click on the help files, which XP identifies under Type as
>> > Compiled HTML Files, they open immediately as expected as a help file.
>> > Properties are fine as well.
>> >
>> > One thing I have noticed with downloading from RBTI is that if I have
>> > Zone Alarm running, the updates are usually corrupted when I try to
>> > run them (corrupted EXE file error appears)- I now disable ZA when I
>> > download from RBTI - when I forget to do this I have problems. Do you
>> > have anything like this running on your PC ?
>> >
>> > John Docherty
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paula
>> > Stuart
>> > Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 9:27 AM
>> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
>> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work
>> >
>> > Does anyone know what the file RBASE.chw is?
>> >
>> > I've now re-downloaded the latest version of RB7.1 (Release Candidate5
>> > 7/14/2005)  When I re-downloaded the help files, and looked through
>> > the
>> > RBG7 folder on my computer I found this file.  It's not in the
>> > "typical install" documentation I have for XP.  It has a created date
>> > of October
>> > 2003 and a modified date of yesterday -- when I originally downloaded
>> > the help files.
>> >
>> > Also, clicking on the individual help files in Windows explorer causes
>> > dialog boxes to come up saying "unrecognized command, retype it" and
>> > one that says "more than 10000 lines or 400 items in input line"
>> > (happened clicking on the Gateway help)
>> >
>> > Also, clicking on the individual files to look at the properties shows
>> > a message at the bottom that reads "This file came from another
>> > computer and might be blocked to help protect this computer" with a
>> > button next to it saying "unblock".  When I clicked that, and tried to
>> > open the file...it made no difference.  I'm wondering if a Windows
>> > update has caused some kind of a security lock on these.....
>> >
>> > Paula Stuart
>> > Community Development Strategies
>> > 70 Summer Street
>> > Somerville, MA 02143
>> > 617-776-3367
>> > 617-776-4554 (Fax)
>> > 617-388-1331 (Cell)
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
>> > Docherty
>> > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 4:33 PM
>> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
>> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work
>> >
>> >
>> > Paula,
>> >
>> > I use WinZip with XPP - however as suggested by Mike if you try
>> > opening the actual downloaded files you will be able to check their
>> > integrity, as they should be able to be displayed readily.
>> >
>> > Good luck.
>> >
>> > John Docherty
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paula
>> > Stuart
>> > Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 8:09 AM
>> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
>> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work
>> >
>> > Hi John,
>> >
>> > Running Windows XP there's a self-extractor that's part of the
>> > operating system.  It's how I always unload the files.  They download
>> > as zipped folders.  I select "extract all files" from the menu and
>> > tell it what directory to send them to.  The unzipped files are coming
>> > up with the date and time they were extracted.  I just assumed that
>> > because they were overwriting the files that were already there.
>> >
>> > Paula Stuart
>> > Community Development Strategies
>> > 70 Summer Street
>> > Somerville, MA 02143
>> > 617-776-3367
>> > 617-776-4554 (Fax)
>> > 617-388-1331 (Cell)
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
>> > Docherty
>> > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 4:01 PM
>> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
>> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work
>> >
>> >
>> > Paula,
>> >
>> > I have just downloaded the zip files, unzipped them into the directory
>> > where 7.1 resides and they work OK - the unzipped files are dated 14/7
>> > 7:10pm (although it is 17/7 here) - how are you extracting the CHM
>> > files from the downloaded zip files and changing the date etc ?
>> >
>> > One thing I did notice though is that they still tell you can update
>> > multi-table views.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> >
>> > John Docherty
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paula
>> > Stuart
>> > Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 7:29 AM
>> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
>> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work
>> >
>> > Sami,
>> >
>> > They were dated 7/15/2005 and then I tried reloading them again from
>> > the zipped files so now they're dated 7/16/2005.....or the date I
>> > installed them.  Even after reloading them again I can't get them to
>> > work...so now I have no working help files at all.
>> >
>> > Paula Stuart
>> > Community Development Strategies
>> > 70 Summer Street
>> > Somerville, MA 02143
>> > 617-776-3367
>> > 617-776-4554 (Fax)
>> > 617-388-1331 (Cell)
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sami
>> > Aaron
>> > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 12:21 PM
>> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
>> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - RE: Help Files Don't work
>> >
>> >
>> > Paula -
>> >
>> > Mine seem to work just fine...  Go out to Windows Explorer and check
>> > the dates on the chm files in your RBG7 folder to be sure they are all
>> > dated 7/14.
>> >
>> > Sami
>> >
>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> > Sami Aaron
>> > Software Management Specialists
>> > 913-915-1971
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> >
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paula
>> > Stuart
>> > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:44 PM
>> > To: RBG7-L Mailing List
>> > Subject: [RBG7-L] - Help Files Don't work
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Razzak....
>> >
>> >     I downloaded the new help files, unzipped them to RBTI\RBG7
>> > directory as instructed.  Then I opened RBase and clicked on the help
>> > icon and it came up with the index list on the left of the screen and
>> > an internet page fault on the right with and ACTION CANCELLED page
>> > error fault.
>> >
>> >     Do I have to do something besides extracting the files to the
>> > correct directory?  I've never been sent to a web page when opening
>> > help files before (unless I specifically selected going to online help).
>> >
>> >     Help
>> >
>> > Paula Stuart
>> > Community Development Strategies
>> > 70 Summer Street
>> > Somerville, MA 02143
>> > 617-776-3367
>> > 617-776-4554 (Fax)
>> > 617-388-1331 (Cell)
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> >
>> >
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