Hey! SO am I! On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
> > He's 39 and off steroids > > On 6/2/09, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm just at the point I can't fathom what has happened to him. He got > > healthy (reportedly) and now he is, quite literally, the worst hitting > > non-pitcher in baseball. That just doesn't happen. I'm at a loss ... he > has > > to rebound, at least to a certain point, doesn't he? > > > > Steve o > > > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> True -- but guys don't become elite ballplayers by giving up. He's going > >> to > >> keep working at it because he believes he can still hit. That's just how > >> these guys are. > >> > >> -- Matt > >> > >> --- On *Tue, 6/2/09, Ray Salemi <[email protected]>* wrote: > >> > >> > >> From: Ray Salemi <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: Trade Papi > >> To: [email protected] > >> Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 10:16 AM > >> > >> > >> BTW. If he has any pride left he had better keep it in a little jar in > >> his > >> closet. > >> Because going out there and sucking 4 times a day is not a self-esteem > >> builder. > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley < > >> [email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> > >>> Except that he'd have to be: > >>> > >>> a. really hurt > >>> b. willing to play along with the ruse > >>> > >>> I can't imagine a guy with his pride being willing to take a DL stint > if > >>> he weren't really hurt. > >>> > >>> -- Matt > >>> > >>> --- On *Tue, 6/2/09, Ray Salemi > >>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >>> >* wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> From: Ray Salemi > >>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: Trade Papi > >>> To: > >>> [email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected] > > > >>> Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 10:06 AM > >>> > >>> > >>> I'm sure that a nice stint on the disabled list will also serve the > >>> purpose of freeing up Papi's spot. > >>> > >>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley < > >>> [email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >>> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Is Ortiz a 10/5 guy? That would make any trade talk moot. They're > >>>> pretty stuck with him until he snaps out of it or they release him. > >>>> > >>>> -- Matt > >>>> > >>>> --- On *Tue, 6/2/09, Tom Salemi > >>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >>>> >* wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> From: Tom Salemi > >>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >>>> > > >>>> Subject: Re: Trade Papi > >>>> To: > >>>> [email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected] > > > >>>> Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 9:45 AM > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> And spare me the chatter about Arroyo's hometown discount. I think > he's > >>>> been overpaid. > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Tom Salemi > >>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >>>> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Interesting fact about newly signed free agents. Can't trade them > until > >>>>> June 15, according to the CBA. (at least that's what i think i heard > >>>>> the > >>>>> other day.) > >>>>> > >>>>> Penny would be traded before Smoltz. THey're not trading smoltz. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Steve Ouellette < > >>>>> [email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >>>>> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I'm not giving up either. He's been too good for too long to > >>>>>> completely > >>>>>> lose it overnight. I think. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Though he is looking painfully like Tony Clark that one year ... > >>>>>> without the good defense. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Steve O > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Lobosco, Angelo < > >>>>>> [email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >>>>>> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> I think it’s too early to completely throw in the towel on Ortiz. > >>>>>>> How about bringing Ron Jackson back, just to work with Ortiz? Send > >>>>>>> the two > >>>>>>> of them off somewhere for a few weeks and see what happens... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------------ > >>>>>>> *From:* > >>>>>>> [email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected] > >[mailto: > >>>>>>> [email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected] > >] > >>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Ouellette > >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:23 AM > >>>>>>> *To:* > >>>>>>> [email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected] > > > >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Trade Papi > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ray, get back to the realm of possibility. There is a zero percent > >>>>>>> chance that Smoltz will be traded before he gets to the majors and > >>>>>>> shows he > >>>>>>> can still pitch. And if he's successful, there's a zero percent > >>>>>>> chance he's > >>>>>>> used as a sweetener to take Papi off our hands. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If Papi can't shake this, there's a chance that the Sox will eat > his > >>>>>>> contract, but they're not going to pay another team for the > >>>>>>> privilege. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Steve O > >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Ray Salemi > >>>>>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> I wouldn't put too much weight behind "class" as a trade > demotivator. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Remember Arroyo's hometown discount and subsequent trade. Now > THAT > >>>>>>> was classless. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> As for Smoltz, who cares if he wanted to be a trade chit. As they > >>>>>>> told Crash Davis, "You get to come to the ballpark each day and get > >>>>>>> paid for > >>>>>>> doing it." > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Steve Ouellette < > >>>>>>> [email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> There's no way they're going to up and trade Smoltz before he > throws > >>>>>>> a > >>>>>>> pitch for them, coming off of shoulder surgery. 1) because he > doesn't > >>>>>>> have > >>>>>>> much value until he shows he can pitch and 2) it's a classless way > of > >>>>>>> handling him -- he didn't agree to come to Boston as a trade chit. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Steve O > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Ray Salemi > >>>>>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> If he means to retire then he should do it, and decrease the > surplus > >>>>>>> population. -- Scrooge Salemi. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Larry Rupp > >>>>>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> yes but doesn't Papi have a clause to stop a trade? Anyway, if the > >>>>>>> news has any baring Papi wants to stay put and would rather retire > >>>>>>> then be traded. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Ray Salemi > >>>>>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > Why do you say that? I can see him retiring because nobody wants > >>>>>>> him, but I > >>>>>>> > if a trade offer became available I think the org would jump on > it. > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Larry Rupp > >>>>>>> > <[email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> More likely Papi will retire here before the org would trade > him. > >>>>>>> I see > >>>>>>> >> the FO giving him till the All Star game before putting any real > >>>>>>> changes > >>>>>>> >> into place. > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> Sent from Larry's iPhone > >>>>>>> >> On Jun 2, 2009, at 7:17 AM, Steve Ouellette < > >>>>>>> [email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> >> wrote: > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> And they'll be trading their > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> > worst-hitter-in-the-majors-who-can't-play-defense-and-makes-$14-million-next-year > >>>>>>> >> to who exactly? > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> Steve O > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Ray Salemi > >>>>>>> >> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> Now that Smolz is coming back it's time to package him up with > >>>>>>> Papi and > >>>>>>> >>> send them on his way. The Sox need a real DH and getting rid > of > >>>>>>> Ortiz will > >>>>>>> >>> make room for that to happen. > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> -- > >>>>>>> >>> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" > >>>>>>> >>> www.fpgasimulation.com > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > -- > >>>>>>> > Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" > >>>>>>> > www.fpgasimulation.com > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" > >>>>>>> www.fpgasimulation.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" > >>>> www.fpgasimulation.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" > >> www.fpgasimulation.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" > >> www.fpgasimulation.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" > www.fpgasimulation.com > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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