44 now and I'm going to start taking them I think. 3 kids already; so I don't need my balls and my back is killing me
________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Salemi Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Trade Papi Hey! SO am I! On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: He's 39 and off steroids On 6/2/09, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm just at the point I can't fathom what has happened to him. He got > healthy (reportedly) and now he is, quite literally, the worst hitting > non-pitcher in baseball. That just doesn't happen. I'm at a loss ... he has > to rebound, at least to a certain point, doesn't he? > > Steve o > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> True -- but guys don't become elite ballplayers by giving up. He's going >> to >> keep working at it because he believes he can still hit. That's just how >> these guys are. >> >> -- Matt >> >> --- On *Tue, 6/2/09, Ray Salemi <[email protected]>* wrote: >> >> >> From: Ray Salemi <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Trade Papi >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 10:16 AM >> >> >> BTW. If he has any pride left he had better keep it in a little jar in >> his >> closet. >> Because going out there and sucking 4 times a day is not a self-esteem >> builder. >> >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley < >> [email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mcsorl [email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >>> Except that he'd have to be: >>> >>> a. really hurt >>> b. willing to play along with the ruse >>> >>> I can't imagine a guy with his pride being willing to take a DL stint if >>> he weren't really hurt. >>> >>> -- Matt >>> >>> --- On *Tue, 6/2/09, Ray Salemi >>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rdsalem [email protected]> >>> >* wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Ray Salemi >>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rdsalem [email protected]>> >>> >>> Subject: Re: Trade Papi >>> To: >>> [email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compos [email protected]> >>> Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 10:06 AM >>> >>> >>> I'm sure that a nice stint on the disabled list will also serve the >>> purpose of freeing up Papi's spot. >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley < >>> [email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mcsorl [email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Is Ortiz a 10/5 guy? That would make any trade talk moot. They're >>>> pretty stuck with him until he snaps out of it or they release him. >>>> >>>> -- Matt >>>> >>>> --- On *Tue, 6/2/09, Tom Salemi >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tomsal [email protected]> >>>> >* wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Tom Salemi >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tomsal [email protected]> >>>> > >>>> Subject: Re: Trade Papi >>>> To: >>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compos [email protected]> >>>> Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 9:45 AM >>>> >>>> >>>> And spare me the chatter about Arroyo's hometown discount. I think he's >>>> been overpaid. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Tom Salemi >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tomsal [email protected]> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Interesting fact about newly signed free agents. Can't trade them until >>>>> June 15, according to the CBA. (at least that's what i think i heard >>>>> the >>>>> other day.) >>>>> >>>>> Penny would be traded before Smoltz. THey're not trading smoltz. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Steve Ouellette < >>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=oue [email protected]> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm not giving up either. He's been too good for too long to >>>>>> completely >>>>>> lose it overnight. I think. >>>>>> >>>>>> Though he is looking painfully like Tony Clark that one year ... >>>>>> without the good defense. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve O >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Lobosco, Angelo < >>>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Ang [email protected]> >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think it's too early to completely throw in the towel on Ortiz. >>>>>>> How about bringing Ron Jackson back, just to work with Ortiz? Send >>>>>>> the two >>>>>>> of them off somewhere for a few weeks and see what happens... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> *From:* >>>>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compos [email protected]>[mailto: >>>>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compos [email protected]>] >>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Ouellette >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:23 AM >>>>>>> *To:* >>>>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compos [email protected]> >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Trade Papi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ray, get back to the realm of possibility. There is a zero percent >>>>>>> chance that Smoltz will be traded before he gets to the majors and >>>>>>> shows he >>>>>>> can still pitch. And if he's successful, there's a zero percent >>>>>>> chance he's >>>>>>> used as a sweetener to take Papi off our hands. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If Papi can't shake this, there's a chance that the Sox will eat his >>>>>>> contract, but they're not going to pay another team for the >>>>>>> privilege. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Steve O >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Ray Salemi >>>>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rdsalem [email protected]>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> I wouldn't put too much weight behind "class" as a trade demotivator. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Remember Arroyo's hometown discount and subsequent trade. Now THAT >>>>>>> was classless. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As for Smoltz, who cares if he wanted to be a trade chit. As they >>>>>>> told Crash Davis, "You get to come to the ballpark each day and get >>>>>>> paid for >>>>>>> doing it." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Steve Ouellette < >>>>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=oue [email protected]>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> There's no way they're going to up and trade Smoltz before he throws >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> pitch for them, coming off of shoulder surgery. 1) because he doesn't >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> much value until he shows he can pitch and 2) it's a classless way of >>>>>>> handling him -- he didn't agree to come to Boston as a trade chit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Steve O >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Ray Salemi >>>>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rdsalem [email protected]>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> If he means to retire then he should do it, and decrease the surplus >>>>>>> population. -- Scrooge Salemi. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Larry Rupp >>>>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silvan [email protected]>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> yes but doesn't Papi have a clause to stop a trade? Anyway, if the >>>>>>> news has any baring Papi wants to stay put and would rather retire >>>>>>> then be traded. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Ray Salemi >>>>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rdsalem [email protected]>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> > Why do you say that? I can see him retiring because nobody wants >>>>>>> him, but I >>>>>>> > if a trade offer became available I think the org would jump on it. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Larry Rupp >>>>>>> > <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silvan [email protected]>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> More likely Papi will retire here before the org would trade him. >>>>>>> I see >>>>>>> >> the FO giving him till the All Star game before putting any real >>>>>>> changes >>>>>>> >> into place. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Sent from Larry's iPhone >>>>>>> >> On Jun 2, 2009, at 7:17 AM, Steve Ouellette < >>>>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=oue [email protected]> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> And they'll be trading their >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> worst-hitter-in-the-majors-who-can't-play-defense-and-makes-$14-million- next-year >>>>>>> >> to who exactly? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Steve O >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Ray Salemi >>>>>>> >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rdsalem [email protected]>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Now that Smolz is coming back it's time to package him up with >>>>>>> Papi and >>>>>>> >>> send them on his way. The Sox need a real DH and getting rid of >>>>>>> Ortiz will >>>>>>> >>> make room for that to happen. >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> -- >>>>>>> >>> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >>>>>>> >>> www.fpgasimulation.com <http://www.fpgasimulation.com/> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>> > Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >>>>>>> > www.fpgasimulation.com <http://www.fpgasimulation.com/> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >>>>>>> www.fpgasimulation.com <http://www.fpgasimulation.com/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >>>> www.fpgasimulation.com <http://www.fpgasimulation.com/> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >> www.fpgasimulation.com <http://www.fpgasimulation.com/> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >> www.fpgasimulation.com <http://www.fpgasimulation.com/> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" www.fpgasimulation.com <http://www.fpgasimulation.com/> <br --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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