Wait, that makes sense. On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think it's evident to anyone who pay attention.... > > Fisk is a Jedi, or perhaps a member of the Sith. He first used his mind > tricks on Haywood Sullivan, tricking him into mailing his contract a day > late. Then he applied them to Duquette and Harrington to finagle the > retirement. > > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Beaudoin, John > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I don't get that either. I thought Ray had some inside scoop that Fisk >> actually negotiated for it. Is that not true? >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From*: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> >> *To*: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> *Sent*: Sat Mar 13 10:04:00 2010 >> *Subject*: Re: Fisk >> >> What I don't understand is the blame you're assigning to Fisk. Did he >> twist somebody's arm and use some unseen leverage to force his number up >> onto the wall? How is anything his fault ... other than leaving the Red Sox >> because Haywood Sullivan and company screwed up his contract? >> >> I have more trouble with retiring Johnny Pesky's number than Fisk's ... >> >> Steve O >> >> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Here's the thing. We retire numbers in situations where nobody else >>> could credibly wear the number. Who is going to wear 8 or 9 now? >>> >>> 27? Easily worn by another. Tek could have had it for all I care. >>> >>> The kind of acknowledgement that Fisk negotiated for should not have >>> been for sale. >>> >>> On 3/13/10, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > The more I read, the more I can see the argument. 11 seasons with the >>> RED >>> > Sox is a career in itself. And with those numbers in that timeframe at >>> that >>> > position, I can see the argument. >>> > >>> > I don't remember that he "bolted". I remember that the RED Sox lost a >>> > little confidence in his ability to come back and play many more >>> seasons >>> > with the injury that he had. People thought he was done. I think it >>> was >>> > the shoulder. >>> > >>> > John >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: [email protected] <[email protected] >>> > >>> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> > Sent: Sat Mar 13 05:15:23 2010 >>> > Subject: Re: Fisk >>> > >>> > Steroids aside. >>> > >>> > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >> All I've said is, I don't like seeing his number up there because he >>> >> bolted on the Sox and played elsewhere for most of his career. >>> >> >>> >> I'd rather see Wade Bogg's number up there than Fisk's. Putting >>> >> Fisk's number up there is like the Red Sox retiring Roger Clemens's >>> >> number. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> OK, that's just ccomplete nonsense. >>> >>> >>> >>> Fisk caught more games than any other catcher. He's second all-time >>> among >>> >>> catchers in home runs and first in hits and runs scored. He's one of >>> the >>> >>> best catchers in baseball history without question and was more than >>> >>> worthy >>> >>> of his Hall of Fame induction. >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: "Beaudoin, John" <[email protected]> >>> >>> To: [email protected] >>> >>> Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 10:39:13 PM >>> >>> Subject: Re: Fisk >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't get it. >>> >>> No one is saying Tek deserves his number retired, HoF consideration, >>> or >>> >>> that >>> >>> he compares favorably to Fisk. Not sure what the point is. >>> >>> >>> >>> It's just that he played 24 years and only 11 with the Red type of >>> Sox. >>> >>> His >>> >>> numbers don't warrant number retirement or HofF. >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: [email protected] < >>> [email protected]> >>> >>> To: [email protected] <[email protected] >>> > >>> >>> Sent: Fri Mar 12 19:08:10 2010 >>> >>> Subject: Fisk >>> >>> >>> >>> Fisk played 24 years. >>> >>> That is not a trivial task. >>> >>> He's 3rd on the list of games played after age 43 (non pitchers) >>> >>> Only Pete Rose (2nd) and God place his soul Julio Franco (1st) are >>> ahead >>> >>> of >>> >>> him. >>> >>> Fisk played 11 seasons for the Red Sox. Varatek has 13. >>> >>> >>> >>> Fisk's numbers (For just Boston) >>> >>> BA OBP SLG >>> >>> 284/356/581 162 HRs 7 All Star Appearances Rookie of the Year 1 >>> >>> Gold >>> >>> Glove >>> >>> vs >>> >>> Varitek's >>> >>> 259/344/435 175 HRs 3 All Star Appearances 1 Gold Glove >>> >>> >>> >>> Let the debate begin again >>> >>> I'm so eveil >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> . >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>> . >>> >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> . >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>> . >>> >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> . >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>> . >>> >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >>> >> www.fpgasimulation.com >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >>> > www.fpgasimulation.com >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> > "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>> . >>> > For more options, visit this group at >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> > "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>> . >>> > For more options, visit this group at >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> > >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my mobile device >>> >>> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >>> www.fpgasimulation.com >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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