Actually I think that was the last year the players chose. I'm pretty sure the HOF started deciding in 2001.
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]>wrote: > I'm pretty sure the Hall of Fame took the right to choose away when Wade > Boggs was planning to sell his bronze likeness to the Devil Rays for cash, > not when Fisk decided to go in wearing the cap of the team with which he is > most associated. But don't let me stop a good rant ... > > Steve O > > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Fisk made a deal that if they retired his number, that he would put a >> Red Sox logo on his hat in the Hall. For some reason this was >> important enough to the Sox that they retired his obscure and >> forgotten number. >> >> The Hall took away a player's ability to pick his hat after this deal was >> done. >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Steve Ouellette >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > What I don't understand is the blame you're assigning to Fisk. Did he >> twist >> > somebody's arm and use some unseen leverage to force his number up onto >> the >> > wall? How is anything his fault ... other than leaving the Red Sox >> because >> > Haywood Sullivan and company screwed up his contract? >> > >> > I have more trouble with retiring Johnny Pesky's number than Fisk's ... >> > >> > Steve O >> > >> > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Here's the thing. We retire numbers in situations where nobody else >> >> could credibly wear the number. Who is going to wear 8 or 9 now? >> >> >> >> 27? Easily worn by another. Tek could have had it for all I care. >> >> >> >> The kind of acknowledgement that Fisk negotiated for should not have >> >> been for sale. >> >> >> >> On 3/13/10, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > The more I read, the more I can see the argument. 11 seasons with >> the >> >> > RED >> >> > Sox is a career in itself. And with those numbers in that timeframe >> at >> >> > that >> >> > position, I can see the argument. >> >> > >> >> > I don't remember that he "bolted". I remember that the RED Sox lost >> a >> >> > little confidence in his ability to come back and play many more >> seasons >> >> > with the injury that he had. People thought he was done. I think it >> >> > was >> >> > the shoulder. >> >> > >> >> > John >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: [email protected] < >> [email protected]> >> >> > To: [email protected] <[email protected] >> > >> >> > Sent: Sat Mar 13 05:15:23 2010 >> >> > Subject: Re: Fisk >> >> > >> >> > Steroids aside. >> >> > >> >> > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> All I've said is, I don't like seeing his number up there because he >> >> >> bolted on the Sox and played elsewhere for most of his career. >> >> >> >> >> >> I'd rather see Wade Bogg's number up there than Fisk's. Putting >> >> >> Fisk's number up there is like the Red Sox retiring Roger Clemens's >> >> >> number. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> OK, that's just ccomplete nonsense. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Fisk caught more games than any other catcher. He's second all-time >> >> >>> among >> >> >>> catchers in home runs and first in hits and runs scored. He's one >> of >> >> >>> the >> >> >>> best catchers in baseball history without question and was more >> than >> >> >>> worthy >> >> >>> of his Hall of Fame induction. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ________________________________ >> >> >>> From: "Beaudoin, John" <[email protected]> >> >> >>> To: [email protected] >> >> >>> Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 10:39:13 PM >> >> >>> Subject: Re: Fisk >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I don't get it. >> >> >>> No one is saying Tek deserves his number retired, HoF >> consideration, >> >> >>> or >> >> >>> that >> >> >>> he compares favorably to Fisk. Not sure what the point is. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> It's just that he played 24 years and only 11 with the Red type of >> >> >>> Sox. >> >> >>> His >> >> >>> numbers don't warrant number retirement or HofF. >> >> >>> ________________________________ >> >> >>> From: [email protected] >> >> >>> <[email protected]> >> >> >>> To: [email protected] < >> [email protected]> >> >> >>> Sent: Fri Mar 12 19:08:10 2010 >> >> >>> Subject: Fisk >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Fisk played 24 years. >> >> >>> That is not a trivial task. >> >> >>> He's 3rd on the list of games played after age 43 (non pitchers) >> >> >>> Only Pete Rose (2nd) and God place his soul Julio Franco (1st) are >> >> >>> ahead >> >> >>> of >> >> >>> him. >> >> >>> Fisk played 11 seasons for the Red Sox. 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