Yeah, but it was because of Boggs, at least according to Wiki ... though I guess Fisk could be the rumored "number retirement" offer.
"Before his retirement, Boggs was plagued by newspaper reports that the expansion Devil Rays gave him financial compensation in return for selecting a Devil Rays cap for his plaque at the Baseball Hall of Fame<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Baseball_Hall_of_Fame_and_Museum>, though he has denied that any such condition was part of his contract.[12]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wade_Boggs#cite_note-11>In light of those reports (and other rumors that teams were offering number retirement, money, or organizational jobs in exchange for the cap designation) the Hall decided in 2001 to change its practice of deferring to players' wishes regarding cap logo selection, and reinforced the Hall's authority to determine with which cap the player would be depicted. Boggs is wearing a Boston cap on his plaque." On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > Actually I think that was the last year the players chose. > > I'm pretty sure the HOF started deciding in 2001. > > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Steve Ouellette > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure the Hall of Fame took the right to choose away when Wade >> Boggs was planning to sell his bronze likeness to the Devil Rays for cash, >> not when Fisk decided to go in wearing the cap of the team with which he is >> most associated. But don't let me stop a good rant ... >> >> Steve O >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Fisk made a deal that if they retired his number, that he would put a >>> Red Sox logo on his hat in the Hall. For some reason this was >>> important enough to the Sox that they retired his obscure and >>> forgotten number. >>> >>> The Hall took away a player's ability to pick his hat after this deal was >>> done. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Steve Ouellette >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > What I don't understand is the blame you're assigning to Fisk. Did he >>> twist >>> > somebody's arm and use some unseen leverage to force his number up onto >>> the >>> > wall? How is anything his fault ... other than leaving the Red Sox >>> because >>> > Haywood Sullivan and company screwed up his contract? >>> > >>> > I have more trouble with retiring Johnny Pesky's number than Fisk's ... >>> > >>> > Steve O >>> > >>> > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Here's the thing. We retire numbers in situations where nobody else >>> >> could credibly wear the number. Who is going to wear 8 or 9 now? >>> >> >>> >> 27? Easily worn by another. Tek could have had it for all I care. >>> >> >>> >> The kind of acknowledgement that Fisk negotiated for should not have >>> >> been for sale. >>> >> >>> >> On 3/13/10, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> > The more I read, the more I can see the argument. 11 seasons with >>> the >>> >> > RED >>> >> > Sox is a career in itself. And with those numbers in that timeframe >>> at >>> >> > that >>> >> > position, I can see the argument. >>> >> > >>> >> > I don't remember that he "bolted". I remember that the RED Sox lost >>> a >>> >> > little confidence in his ability to come back and play many more >>> seasons >>> >> > with the injury that he had. People thought he was done. I think >>> it >>> >> > was >>> >> > the shoulder. >>> >> > >>> >> > John >>> >> > >>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> > From: [email protected] < >>> [email protected]> >>> >> > To: [email protected] < >>> [email protected]> >>> >> > Sent: Sat Mar 13 05:15:23 2010 >>> >> > Subject: Re: Fisk >>> >> > >>> >> > Steroids aside. >>> >> > >>> >> > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >> >> All I've said is, I don't like seeing his number up there because >>> he >>> >> >> bolted on the Sox and played elsewhere for most of his career. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> I'd rather see Wade Bogg's number up there than Fisk's. Putting >>> >> >> Fisk's number up there is like the Red Sox retiring Roger Clemens's >>> >> >> number. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley >>> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> OK, that's just ccomplete nonsense. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Fisk caught more games than any other catcher. He's second >>> all-time >>> >> >>> among >>> >> >>> catchers in home runs and first in hits and runs scored. He's one >>> of >>> >> >>> the >>> >> >>> best catchers in baseball history without question and was more >>> than >>> >> >>> worthy >>> >> >>> of his Hall of Fame induction. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> ________________________________ >>> >> >>> From: "Beaudoin, John" <[email protected]> >>> >> >>> To: [email protected] >>> >> >>> Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 10:39:13 PM >>> >> >>> Subject: Re: Fisk >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> I don't get it. >>> >> >>> No one is saying Tek deserves his number retired, HoF >>> consideration, >>> >> >>> or >>> >> >>> that >>> >> >>> he compares favorably to Fisk. Not sure what the point is. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> It's just that he played 24 years and only 11 with the Red type of >>> >> >>> Sox. >>> >> >>> His >>> >> >>> numbers don't warrant number retirement or HofF. >>> >> >>> ________________________________ >>> >> >>> From: [email protected] >>> >> >>> <[email protected]> >>> >> >>> To: [email protected] < >>> [email protected]> >>> >> >>> Sent: Fri Mar 12 19:08:10 2010 >>> >> >>> Subject: Fisk >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Fisk played 24 years. >>> >> >>> That is not a trivial task. >>> >> >>> He's 3rd on the list of games played after age 43 (non pitchers) >>> >> >>> Only Pete Rose (2nd) and God place his soul Julio Franco (1st) are >>> >> >>> ahead >>> >> >>> of >>> >> >>> him. >>> >> >>> Fisk played 11 seasons for the Red Sox. 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