I don't get that either. I thought Ray had some inside scoop that Fisk actually negotiated for it. Is that not true?
________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Sat Mar 13 10:04:00 2010 Subject: Re: Fisk What I don't understand is the blame you're assigning to Fisk. Did he twist somebody's arm and use some unseen leverage to force his number up onto the wall? How is anything his fault ... other than leaving the Red Sox because Haywood Sullivan and company screwed up his contract? I have more trouble with retiring Johnny Pesky's number than Fisk's ... Steve O On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: Here's the thing. We retire numbers in situations where nobody else could credibly wear the number. Who is going to wear 8 or 9 now? 27? Easily worn by another. Tek could have had it for all I care. The kind of acknowledgement that Fisk negotiated for should not have been for sale. On 3/13/10, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]> wrote: > The more I read, the more I can see the argument. 11 seasons with the RED > Sox is a career in itself. And with those numbers in that timeframe at that > position, I can see the argument. > > I don't remember that he "bolted". I remember that the RED Sox lost a > little confidence in his ability to come back and play many more seasons > with the injury that he had. People thought he was done. I think it was > the shoulder. > > John > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat Mar 13 05:15:23 2010 > Subject: Re: Fisk > > Steroids aside. > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> All I've said is, I don't like seeing his number up there because he >> bolted on the Sox and played elsewhere for most of his career. >> >> I'd rather see Wade Bogg's number up there than Fisk's. Putting >> Fisk's number up there is like the Red Sox retiring Roger Clemens's >> number. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> OK, that's just ccomplete nonsense. >>> >>> Fisk caught more games than any other catcher. He's second all-time among >>> catchers in home runs and first in hits and runs scored. He's one of the >>> best catchers in baseball history without question and was more than >>> worthy >>> of his Hall of Fame induction. >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: "Beaudoin, John" <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 10:39:13 PM >>> Subject: Re: Fisk >>> >>> I don't get it. >>> No one is saying Tek deserves his number retired, HoF consideration, or >>> that >>> he compares favorably to Fisk. Not sure what the point is. >>> >>> It's just that he played 24 years and only 11 with the Red type of Sox. >>> His >>> numbers don't warrant number retirement or HofF. >>> ________________________________ >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Fri Mar 12 19:08:10 2010 >>> Subject: Fisk >>> >>> Fisk played 24 years. >>> That is not a trivial task. >>> He's 3rd on the list of games played after age 43 (non pitchers) >>> Only Pete Rose (2nd) and God place his soul Julio Franco (1st) are ahead >>> of >>> him. >>> Fisk played 11 seasons for the Red Sox. Varatek has 13. >>> >>> Fisk's numbers (For just Boston) >>> BA OBP SLG >>> 284/356/581 162 HRs 7 All Star Appearances Rookie of the Year 1 >>> Gold >>> Glove >>> vs >>> Varitek's >>> 259/344/435 175 HRs 3 All Star Appearances 1 Gold Glove >>> >>> Let the debate begin again >>> I'm so eveil >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] <mailto:redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] <mailto:redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] <mailto:redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >> www.fpgasimulation.com >> > > > > -- > Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" > www.fpgasimulation.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] <mailto:redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] <mailto:redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- Sent from my mobile device Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" www.fpgasimulation.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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