I think it's evident to anyone who pay attention.... Fisk is a Jedi, or perhaps a member of the Sith. He first used his mind tricks on Haywood Sullivan, tricking him into mailing his contract a day late. Then he applied them to Duquette and Harrington to finagle the retirement.
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]>wrote: > I don't get that either. I thought Ray had some inside scoop that Fisk > actually negotiated for it. Is that not true? > > ------------------------------ > *From*: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > *To*: [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Sent*: Sat Mar 13 10:04:00 2010 > *Subject*: Re: Fisk > > What I don't understand is the blame you're assigning to Fisk. Did he twist > somebody's arm and use some unseen leverage to force his number up onto the > wall? How is anything his fault ... other than leaving the Red Sox because > Haywood Sullivan and company screwed up his contract? > > I have more trouble with retiring Johnny Pesky's number than Fisk's ... > > Steve O > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Here's the thing. We retire numbers in situations where nobody else >> could credibly wear the number. Who is going to wear 8 or 9 now? >> >> 27? Easily worn by another. Tek could have had it for all I care. >> >> The kind of acknowledgement that Fisk negotiated for should not have >> been for sale. >> >> On 3/13/10, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]> wrote: >> > The more I read, the more I can see the argument. 11 seasons with the >> RED >> > Sox is a career in itself. And with those numbers in that timeframe at >> that >> > position, I can see the argument. >> > >> > I don't remember that he "bolted". I remember that the RED Sox lost a >> > little confidence in his ability to come back and play many more seasons >> > with the injury that he had. People thought he was done. I think it >> was >> > the shoulder. >> > >> > John >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Sat Mar 13 05:15:23 2010 >> > Subject: Re: Fisk >> > >> > Steroids aside. >> > >> > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> All I've said is, I don't like seeing his number up there because he >> >> bolted on the Sox and played elsewhere for most of his career. >> >> >> >> I'd rather see Wade Bogg's number up there than Fisk's. Putting >> >> Fisk's number up there is like the Red Sox retiring Roger Clemens's >> >> number. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> OK, that's just ccomplete nonsense. >> >>> >> >>> Fisk caught more games than any other catcher. He's second all-time >> among >> >>> catchers in home runs and first in hits and runs scored. He's one of >> the >> >>> best catchers in baseball history without question and was more than >> >>> worthy >> >>> of his Hall of Fame induction. >> >>> >> >>> ________________________________ >> >>> From: "Beaudoin, John" <[email protected]> >> >>> To: [email protected] >> >>> Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 10:39:13 PM >> >>> Subject: Re: Fisk >> >>> >> >>> I don't get it. >> >>> No one is saying Tek deserves his number retired, HoF consideration, >> or >> >>> that >> >>> he compares favorably to Fisk. Not sure what the point is. >> >>> >> >>> It's just that he played 24 years and only 11 with the Red type of >> Sox. >> >>> His >> >>> numbers don't warrant number retirement or HofF. >> >>> ________________________________ >> >>> From: [email protected] < >> [email protected]> >> >>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> >>> Sent: Fri Mar 12 19:08:10 2010 >> >>> Subject: Fisk >> >>> >> >>> Fisk played 24 years. >> >>> That is not a trivial task. >> >>> He's 3rd on the list of games played after age 43 (non pitchers) >> >>> Only Pete Rose (2nd) and God place his soul Julio Franco (1st) are >> ahead >> >>> of >> >>> him. >> >>> Fisk played 11 seasons for the Red Sox. Varatek has 13. >> >>> >> >>> Fisk's numbers (For just Boston) >> >>> BA OBP SLG >> >>> 284/356/581 162 HRs 7 All Star Appearances Rookie of the Year 1 >> >>> Gold >> >>> Glove >> >>> vs >> >>> Varitek's >> >>> 259/344/435 175 HRs 3 All Star Appearances 1 Gold Glove >> >>> >> >>> Let the debate begin again >> >>> I'm so eveil >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >> . >> >>> For more options, visit this group at >> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >> . >> >>> For more options, visit this group at >> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >> . >> >>> For more options, visit this group at >> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >> >> www.fpgasimulation.com >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >> > www.fpgasimulation.com >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >> . >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >> . >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >> www.fpgasimulation.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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