On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:08, donnella whitacre wrote:
> not their territory , who gave it to them? it is disputed and in fact if
> they had accepted the original partition, they would have far more than
> they will get now. jordan is what was given to the arabs. quite a little
> land if you ask me.

Good god, if you are living on a piece of land and you have been living on it 
for quite some time and no one has contested it, you _don't_ need anyone else 
to _give_ _you_ that land.  Read some history, frpete'sake!

As a matter of fact, a minor matter of fact, Israel rejected the Oslo 
Agreements and guess what, the whole of Mandatory Palestine is now _disputed_ 
_territory_ .
>
> Jim Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Despite the Nazi affiliations of the Bushce and Rohve families, Israel is
> benefitting greatly from the Republican neo/fascist  extremists who are
> giving them upwards of $3 Billion dollars in direct military aid, not
> counting the additional support of weapons give-aways.
>
> The 'Palestinian Question" is touted as the source of all terrorism, and
> the ongoing occupation of Palestinian territory, the genocide of
> Palestinians using American built and supplied weaponry, contributes hugely
> to the escalation of the Intifada, and is deeply tied to the US occupation
> of Iraq and the so-called war on terror.
>
> The death of Arafat has huge ramifications, but how it develops will be
> tainted by the Rapture Index and Halliburton.  The 15-18% of Americans who
> devour literature devoted to the second coming and the biblical predictions
> of the end of the world are playing nicely into the hands of the corporate
> fascists who have been crafting global military and economic domination for
> decades.
>
> We should understand much of our military positioning and struggle in Iraq.
> It's the same imperialistic mindset the British had when our ' insurgents'
> were taking pot shots at their uniformed, marching columns from behind the
> trees of Massachusetts and Pennsylvania instead of lining up in outnumbered
> columns to be gunned down by a larger and better financed fighting force.
>
> If they were resisting anyone but us, we would call them 'Freedom Fighters"
> and give them weapons and money, much as we did the Afghani's and Saddam
> himself when they were fighting the Soviet Union or Iran
>
> Christian Coalition extremists understand the Jihad extemists who engage in
> suicide bombings. The 'Religious Right' fundamentalists have visions of
> their naked bodies floating up to heaven in the moment of 'Rapture' for the
> true believers.
>
> Apparently, what they don't understand is that vision is preceded by a
> blinding flash of light that liberates them, as we have liberated so many
> Iraqi's, from the suffering of being attached to their physical bodies, and
> the propulsion towards "heaven" is the updraft of the mushroom cloud they
> are riding.
>
>
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