"who gave it to them?"
I missed a very fundamental theme here. Who is it that would be bestowing your
homeland to you? Who is the 'THEY" that have that authority?
Who gave Israel to the Jews? Who gave America to Americans? Who "gave" France
to the French, or China to the Chinese?
Who gave us Massachusetts and Pennsylvania and Rhode Island and the other 13
stars on the original flag?
Who is the "THEY" that has that authority if it is not "US" meaning 'we the
people' in both Palestine and the U S
There is no solution for peace in the Mid-East or the war on terror that does
not involve a mutual respect for all peoples and cultures to live in security
and liberty, Jewish or Palestinian or Muslim or Christian or Oilman
Wesley Parish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:08, donnella whitacre wrote:
> not their territory , who gave it to them? it is disputed and in fact if
> they had accepted the original partition, they would have far more than
> they will get now. jordan is what was given to the arabs. quite a little
> land if you ask me.
Good god, if you are living on a piece of land and you have been living on it
for quite some time and no one has contested it, you _don't_ need anyone else
to _give_ _you_ that land. Read some history, frpete'sake!
As a matter of fact, a minor matter of fact, Israel rejected the Oslo
Agreements and guess what, the whole of Mandatory Palestine is now _disputed_
_territory_ .
>
> Jim Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Despite the Nazi affiliations of the Bushce and Rohve families, Israel is
> benefitting greatly from the Republican neo/fascist extremists who are
> giving them upwards of $3 Billion dollars in direct military aid, not
> counting the additional support of weapons give-aways.
>
> The 'Palestinian Question" is touted as the source of all terrorism, and
> the ongoing occupation of Palestinian territory, the genocide of
> Palestinians using American built and supplied weaponry, contributes hugely
> to the escalation of the Intifada, and is deeply tied to the US occupation
> of Iraq and the so-called war on terror.
>
> The death of Arafat has huge ramifications, but how it develops will be
> tainted by the Rapture Index and Halliburton. The 15-18% of Americans who
> devour literature devoted to the second coming and the biblical predictions
> of the end of the world are playing nicely into the hands of the corporate
> fascists who have been crafting global military and economic domination for
> decades.
>
> We should understand much of our military positioning and struggle in Iraq.
> It's the same imperialistic mindset the British had when our ' insurgents'
> were taking pot shots at their uniformed, marching columns from behind the
> trees of Massachusetts and Pennsylvania instead of lining up in outnumbered
> columns to be gunned down by a larger and better financed fighting force.
>
> If they were resisting anyone but us, we would call them 'Freedom Fighters"
> and give them weapons and money, much as we did the Afghani's and Saddam
> himself when they were fighting the Soviet Union or Iran
>
> Christian Coalition extremists understand the Jihad extemists who engage in
> suicide bombings. The 'Religious Right' fundamentalists have visions of
> their naked bodies floating up to heaven in the moment of 'Rapture' for the
> true believers.
>
> Apparently, what they don't understand is that vision is preceded by a
> blinding flash of light that liberates them, as we have liberated so many
> Iraqi's, from the suffering of being attached to their physical bodies, and
> the propulsion towards "heaven" is the updraft of the mushroom cloud they
> are riding.
>
>
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