On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, donnella whitacre wrote:
>
> you missed nothing. these people were only one of many living there. it
> was part of the ottoman empire. they didn't own the land any more than
> any one else living there for centuries and are no more entitled to it
> all than any one else. and certainly lets show respect for every one
> instead of just the one portion that already has over 80% of it.
Consider this:
Are you referring to commons or to private property? What is a village?
Land deeds are legal constructs which began with land grants by the
throne. For example, and land in Florida was given to the U.S. by Spain
and then acquired by individuals. An abtract of deed would show the chain
of ownership. That is the legal chain of ownership. Towns and cities were
acquired as commons from the state.
In the area called Israel and Palestine the villages and lands belonged to
a sovereign, which for centuries was the Ottomans, but it doesn't make
much sense to tell someone who lived there during that time that they
cannot continue with the quiet enjoyment of the land their family lived on
and farmed for their own collective use perhaps contributing some taxes to
the sovereign for their security (which is why taxes were paid) but
protection did not imply real ownership. There was no fee simple, few
deeds of title. Ownership was proved by possession. Simply because the
sovereign made the mistake of an alliance with the wrong power in a war
and losing it's hegemony does not alter the fact of possession, ergo:
ownership (you have heard that possession is 9/10s of the law).
When the sovereign is defeated does that then mean the ownership of the
land is up for grabs? What do you think the moral justification could be
for taking that land from the people who lived there and raised their
families there? This is not a difficult problem. There is none - no matter
how badly the people who take that land may have been treated by others
somewhere else - on some other continent - and how despised they have been
because of the prejudices of a religion (call it Christianity) which
taught that the Jews killed Christ.
There has been a grave injustice to the original inhabitants. How is that
injustice going to be addressed? And it would be infinitely better for the
Jews to realize they have more in common with their Muslim cousins than
their Christian hosts for the last 2,000 years.
Hank Roth
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