Re: Alternatives to FR
On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 01:12:54 + William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: What alternatives to the FR (with the same functionality) are there? I want 3G phone/sms access and the FR doesnt cut it any more ... The android phones (htc dream?) - none of which are fully functional on FSO/SHR (I think), and access through android to the underlying system is minimal. Flow - good but pricy, and unless I am looking at the design wrong, there is only one adapter/interface socket so you can have a phone, or a GSM device, but not both at the same time. Nokia n900 - probably the best choice at this time. What others are available NOW? http://www.exedamobile.com/ Looks like an interesting device. Not terribly cheap, and they seem to want you to buy in lots of 1000, but once you find the price page: http://www.compulab.co.il/exeda/html/exeda-price.htm it does appear that for 40% extra you can buy them in ones. Maybe $US672 with wifi, bluetooth, gsm, gprs, gps, $US32 extra for a camera. Claims (http://www.compulab.co.il/exeda/html/exeda-os-support.htm) to all work with Linux. If you buy one, let us know how it goes :-) NeilBrown ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ringtone request
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 11:04:57 +0330 dehqan65 dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you but there was checked before a ring tone like nokia default ringtone You may be interested in my ringtones package. The source code is available from this URL: http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/ringtones/file/tip It uses the signalgen package. A package which installs a few simple tones is available from here: http://opkg.glitch.tl/ringtones_0.1_arm.ipk I used this to make the five tones from the movie Close Encounters, which is my preferred ring tone. The limitation here is that signalgen is a very simple signal generator. Regards, -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:30:53 +0200 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? No What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? I still use my palm pilot as my PDA through I am writing an application for SHR to replace the palm pilot. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alternatives to FR
I'd looked at this one but its not 3G capable. I like the physical keyboard, though being 96mm wide its a small book! 3G is almost essential as on my last holiday in northwest Australia, there were a lot of 3G only areas - GSM seems like its disappearing :( BillK On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 19:01 +1100, Neil Brown wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 01:12:54 + William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: What alternatives to the FR (with the same functionality) are there? I want 3G phone/sms access and the FR doesnt cut it any more ... The android phones (htc dream?) - none of which are fully functional on FSO/SHR (I think), and access through android to the underlying system is minimal. Flow - good but pricy, and unless I am looking at the design wrong, there is only one adapter/interface socket so you can have a phone, or a GSM device, but not both at the same time. Nokia n900 - probably the best choice at this time. What others are available NOW? http://www.exedamobile.com/ Looks like an interesting device. Not terribly cheap, and they seem to want you to buy in lots of 1000, but once you find the price page: http://www.compulab.co.il/exeda/html/exeda-price.htm it does appear that for 40% extra you can buy them in ones. Maybe $US672 with wifi, bluetooth, gsm, gprs, gps, $US32 extra for a camera. Claims (http://www.compulab.co.il/exeda/html/exeda-os-support.htm) to all work with Linux. If you buy one, let us know how it goes :-) NeilBrown ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alternatives to FR
2010/1/4 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au I'd looked at this one but its not 3G capable. I like the physical keyboard, though being 96mm wide its a small book! 3G is almost essential as on my last holiday in northwest Australia, there were a lot of 3G only areas - GSM seems like its disappearing :( BillK On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 19:01 +1100, Neil Brown wrote: On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 01:12:54 + William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: What alternatives to the FR (with the same functionality) are there? I want 3G phone/sms access and the FR doesnt cut it any more ... The android phones (htc dream?) - none of which are fully functional on FSO/SHR (I think), and access through android to the underlying system is minimal. Flow - good but pricy, and unless I am looking at the design wrong, there is only one adapter/interface socket so you can have a phone, or a GSM device, but not both at the same time. Nokia n900 - probably the best choice at this time. What others are available NOW? http://www.exedamobile.com/ Looks like an interesting device. Not terribly cheap, and they seem to want you to buy in lots of 1000, but once you find the price page: http://www.compulab.co.il/exeda/html/exeda-price.htm it does appear that for 40% extra you can buy them in ones. Maybe $US672 with wifi, bluetooth, gsm, gprs, gps, $US32 extra for a camera. Claims (http://www.compulab.co.il/exeda/html/exeda-os-support.htm) to all work with Linux. If you buy one, let us know how it goes :-) NeilBrown ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Else Intuition -- A.A. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth PBAP support for FSO
Happy New Year! Thomas Zimmermann wrote: That's great. The first test resulted in a crash of the PBAP plugin, so i've to look at this. Will tell you if i have an new version, but i will wait till the new year before i do some more on this. I'm back home.. well.. at work now.. What do I have to prepare in order to test your plugin? Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ IBM is not a necessary evil. IBM is not necessary. - Ted Nelson -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth PBAP support for FSO
Am Montag 04 Januar 2010 11:12:11 schrieb Thomas Franck: Happy New Year! Happy New Year :) I'm back home.. well.. at work now.. What do I have to prepare in order to test your plugin? I think it's not working, because i implemented just 1 of the 3 calls. And it seems the other 2 are more often used :) I will do the other too this week. But if you want you can try the current version. http://downloads.vdm-design.de/obexd_0.20-r0.4_armv4t.ipk But i think sth more is needed. We need an bluetooth agent that knows about obexd. Perhaps simple-agent does. then obexd needs to be started with -p option, the /etc/dbus-1/services config file doesn't do that in my current version, so you have to add that option there. Cheers, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes, though my use of a PDA is a bit scarce. Mostly GPS-based functions (OSM tracks and the such). What distribution you run most of the time? A (somewhat outdated) shr-u. Happy new year to all of you. -- Olivier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navigation
c'mon, you know he meant well I can only applaud new pieces of software for our freerunners, so keep up the good work I personally think it's entirely up to you to release or not release the source files (afterall, you could also make a programme people have to pay for) but it might be interesting for both you and the community; maybe someone has a good idea or a suggestion to make? maybe someone will propose a patch? anyway, it's still up to you (imho) just have fun! On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote: This means that it is preview and not releasable yet. I know what it free software - but it is up to author, when he makes releases. And if he makes it at all. This is only to know, that it is not sleeping. So please don't be fidgety - I have spent on this 7 months, every day 2-3 hours, many times to late night (to 2 am) and I can thank god I have so lovely family to allow that. This is true for other my projects too. Why don't I buy navigation for 200 bucks instead of spending my rare time that would cost by the way my employer thousands? With no donations and no gratitude. Anyway, I should slow down... Neil Jerram wrote: 2010/1/3 Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com: Happy new year everyone! If you want to look at progress, here is first version of MC Navi: http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Newsfile=articleid=116 This is nice news, but what is it with the sorry, no source code yet thing? Mike, I don't actually mean to complain at you in particular. It seems to me that a lot of people write something like that, especially with their early releases. I just don't understand why, and I'm afraid that your post has pushed me over the edge into saying something about it. Do people not know what Free Software means? (Plus it's not hard to find a way of hosting source code...) Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Navigation-tp4141297p4247408.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Risto H. Kurppa a écrit : Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes, since july 2008 (rev5, buzzfixed one year later) Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes. What distribution you run most of the time? SHR for a long time, Android currently (very comfy + great browser/wifi) If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Thank you :) You're welcome. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] UBI success story
[sent again to reach the mailing lists] On Sunday 03 January 2010 13:11:52 Martin Jansa wrote: On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 09:25:57PM +0100, Christoph Mair wrote: Hello, I tried to use SHR the ubi images on my freerunner, but they did not work. Does someone know the parameters which are passed to mkfs.ubifs? I think that the ubi fileystem is created for NAND flashes with subpage support, but this feature does not work on the freerunner. Passing -s 2048 should create a working image (but I did not verify this yet). Params are in: http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/conf/machine/om-gta0 2.conf MKUBIFS_ARGS = -m 2048 -e 129024 -c 2047 for mkfs.ubifs UBINIZE_ARGS = -m 2048 -p 128KiB -s 512 for ubinize So I don't see param for subpage setting for mkfs.ubifs, its only in ubinize, but it didn't help for my NAND, even when I prepare ubi volume on neo with -s 2048 -O 2048 and then try to updatevol with full image (small image like initramfs-kexecboot works for me just fine). That's why I didn't push patch for setting it in UBINIZE_ARGS. Yes, my fault. mkfs.ubifs does not care about subpages. The critical point here is the logical eraseblock size: Quote from http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/doc/ubi.html#L_subpage: Indeed, let's consider a NAND flash with 128KiB eraseblocks and 2048-byte pages. If it does not have sub-pages, UBI puts the the VID header at physical offset 2048, so LEB size becomes 124KiB (128KiB minus one NAND page which stores the EC header and minus another NAND page which stores the VID header. Therefore the params should be: MKUBIFS_ARGS = -m 2048 -e 126976 -c 2047 With these parameters, I successfully wrote a ubifs image to a ubi volume: flash_eraseall /dev/mtd6 ubiattach /dev/ubi_ctrl -m6 -O 2048 ubimkvol /dev/ubi0 -m -Nrootfs ubiupdatevol /dev/ubi0_0 test.ubifs mount -t ubifs ubi0_0 /mnt/ The first step (flash_eraseall) is optional and only needed if ubiattach fails. IMHO the ubinize params should be UBINIZE_ARGS = -m 2048 -p 128KiB -s 2048 but until now I did not get this to work. I can write the image (sometimes it needs a few tries) but mount does not work. To fix this, we need to tell the kernel that the mtd partition 6 contains a ubi volume which contains the ubifs rootfs: rootfstype=ubifs ubi.mtd=6,2048 root=ubi0:rootfs. For a normal boot qi passes rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock6 to the kernel. Just changing the boot params within the kernel configuration does not work. Therefore I patched qi :) Ah great!, thanks Remember that ubi0:rootfs specifies the volume name. The current ubinize.cfg sets this name to om-gta02-rootfs, so change this to ubi0:om-gta02-rootfs Christoph ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy New Year from FSO
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: There is still hope. I like the form factor of the Palm Pre very much. If we get access to the modem, the rest should be relatively simple. Seems like the Motorola Droid is similar hardware-wise to the Palm Pre. Im still googling to know the exact specs, but seems promising. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] UBI success story
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 02:37:14PM +0100, Christoph Mair wrote: Quote from http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/doc/ubi.html#L_subpage: Indeed, let's consider a NAND flash with 128KiB eraseblocks and 2048-byte pages. If it does not have sub-pages, UBI puts the the VID header at physical offset 2048, so LEB size becomes 124KiB (128KiB minus one NAND page which stores the EC header and minus another NAND page which stores the VID header. Therefore the params should be: MKUBIFS_ARGS = -m 2048 -e 126976 -c 2047 Yeah, I notided the same yesterday in failing mount command (it said that superblock is wrong because of having wrong leb size, so updated it locally too). With these parameters, I successfully wrote a ubifs image to a ubi volume: flash_eraseall /dev/mtd6 ubiattach /dev/ubi_ctrl -m6 -O 2048 ubimkvol /dev/ubi0 -m -Nrootfs ubiupdatevol /dev/ubi0_0 test.ubifs mount -t ubifs ubi0_0 /mnt/ The first step (flash_eraseall) is optional and only needed if ubiattach fails. I it worked for me too with just flash_eraseall /dev/mtd6 nandwrite /dev/mtd6 shr-full-eglibc-ipk--20100103-om-gta02.rootfs.ubi but first attempt it worked with only IO errors about few unreadable PEBs. After reboot mount always failed after about a minute with Segmentation fault and once with kernel panic - with 2.6.32.2. IMHO the ubinize params should be UBINIZE_ARGS = -m 2048 -p 128KiB -s 2048 I also had -O 2048 there.. but until now I did not get this to work. I can write the image (sometimes it needs a few tries) but mount does not work. As said above for me it worked just once after nandwrite. :/ Cheers, -- uin:136542059jid:martin.ja...@gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr JaMa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
jeremy jozwik wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? yes yes shr-u ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
no no shr-u On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote: jeremy jozwik wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? yes yes shr-u ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
openmoko io error
sometimes, with no particular cause, but always when the phone is in use (using gps, or while getting the gsm signal, or while playing mokomaze), the image on the screen become corrupted by white horizontal lines, then the enlightenment crash window appears, and if i click on the second button it shows the console with this error: [10176.52] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 6478338 [10176.53] mmcblk0: error -110 sending status commandlt;3gt;mmcblk0:error -110 sending read/write command, response 0x0, card status 0x0[10176.54] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 6478338 [10176.55] mmcblk0: error -110 sending status commandlt;3gt;mmcblk0:error -110 sending read/write command, response 0x0, card status 0x0[10176.56] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 6478338 [10176.565000] mmcblk0: error -110 sending status commandlt;3gt;mmcblk0:error -110 sending read/write command, response 0x0, card status 0x0[10176.575000] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 6478338 [10176.58] mmcblk0: error -110 sending status commandlt;3gt;mmcblk0:error -110 sending read/write command, response 0x0, card status 0x0[10176.595000] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 6478338 [10176.60] mmcblk0: error -110 sending statuscommandlt;3gt;mmcblk0:error -110 sending read/write command, response0x0, card status 0x0[10176.615000] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 6478338 [10176.615000] mmcblk0: error -110 sending statuscommandlt;3gt;mmcblk0:error -110 sending read/write command, response0x0, card status 0x0[10176.625000] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 6478338 [10176.635000] mmcblk0: error -110 sending statuscommandlt;3gt;mmcblk0:error -110 sending read/write command, response0x0, card status 0x0 ... ad libitum Then, when i reboot the phone it will not find the gsm signal for ages and for many reboots. Then, eventually it will work again. is this normal? i tought it seems some electric bug related to the video chip and to the gsm chip... -- roby signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
* Ken Young wrote, Il 03/01/2010 07:10: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes, but always with some problems. The *biggest* problem is battery life of my FR, because some times i cannot finish a day with a full charge, doing only some short calls. It's a big issue from day 0, IMHO, never really solved. I'm very happy of the screen and solid design of the FR, but his graphic speed and responsiveness (with QtMoko, at least) some times it's not good. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes, but without the copy/paste fuction and a still not so good touch keyboard, also here i've some problem. But using it as a pure GPS device, it's really good. What distribution you run most of the time? QtMoko (latest version compilad and maintained by the great Radek Polak), that is Qt based over a Debian (as i understand). -- Andrea ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[ALL] Freerunner GTA02v5 for Sale in Hungary
Dear all, after month and month of trying and always failing at one point I finally gave up on my Freerunner. I've got to admit that I prefer my phone to be unfree, but working (well mostly) right away. For those of you who stay with the FR I've got to offer: - A buzz-fixed GTA02v5, that I bought in November 2008 in Germany. - A second battery that I got during buzz-fix - The Power Adapter - The nice black box it came in I'll keep the parts that are bug-free, that is the Mini-USB, the Stylus, the SD and the Pouch. ;-) The FR is in good condition since I've never really used it as my daily phone. Every try lasted only for a couple of days until it did not answer calls anymore, did not wakeup from suspend, lost SMS etc. - you know... I'd like to receive 100,- EUR for it + Shipping Cost that may apply. I'm located in Hungary (Budapest). Best Regards thomas -- Thomas Otterbein th.otterb...@gmx.net ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) against HTML e-mail X www.asciiribbon.org / \ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GSM Network Time
Any way to extract the time from the GSM network and have the time set based on this?. Any distro that does this or any tools available?. Many phones have this capability. It would also be nice to set the time based on GPS, when that is available, but often when indoors, only GSM works. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Ken Young r...@cfa.harvard.edu writes: there is really no hope at that a group of people such as the gta02-core team, working part time with no large corporate sponsor, will ever produce a product with hardware on a par with what the big players are contemporaneously offering. Do you still don't know to never underestimate enthusiasts?. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Network Time
SHR already does both (GSM and GPS). You should set the local timezone - http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Tweaks#Timezone On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 4:25 AM, Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name wrote: Any way to extract the time from the GSM network and have the time set based on this?. Any distro that does this or any tools available?. Many phones have this capability. It would also be nice to set the time based on GPS, when that is available, but often when indoors, only GSM works. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s t n m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@ n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Network Time
The section about Date/time settings in the SHR wiki from openmoko http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Date_and_time says: Date and time are automatically set from GPS or Network Regards, Marc On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name wrote: Any way to extract the time from the GSM network and have the time set based on this?. Any distro that does this or any tools available?. Many phones have this capability. It would also be nice to set the time based on GPS, when that is available, but often when indoors, only GSM works. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s t n m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@ n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Network Time
Hi, (Alex, is it really so hard for you to properly avoid top postings and to remove useless parts?) On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 04:29:06AM +1100, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 4:25 AM, Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name wrote: Any way to extract the time from the GSM network and have the time set based on this?. Many phones have this capability. Really? All phones I know about require me to input the time after I removed the battery for a longer time. It would also be nice to set the time based on GPS, when that is available, but often when indoors, only GSM works. GPS in indeed used for synchronisation, but you have to start an applications such as tangogps first (on SHR). SHR already does both (GSM and GPS). You should set the local timezone - http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Tweaks#Timezone As far as I know only the timezone is extracted from GSM. I even read the source code to guess whether GSM is able to set time but didn't find any hint. On SHR also a timeserver is used (requested every 10min IIRC) once you setup the network. Jens ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix (Was: Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
On Friday 01 January 2010 20:35:03 Jens Seidel wrote: On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 07:26:37PM +0100, Esben Damgaard wrote: Yes and no. I have two Freerunners (and a gta01 that collects dust). One without buzzfix. Using it for testing, programming and playing. Other one with buzzfix and using it as primary phone. I'm curious, do you notice any difference between the buzz fixed one and the other? I read that only a few phones are affected by the buzz problem but nearly all (including the buzz fixed ones) have major problems with audio quality (noise, echo). I own a rev. A5 freerunner and was seriously affected by the buzz problem. After applying the hardware fix the audio quality improved a lot. Before the fix there was no chance to use the FR as a phone. However, the audio quality was never as good as on a friends rev A7 FR (without buzz-fix). I did a lot of experimenting and tweaking with all possible audio parameters but the volume has always been either too low or distorted. He just uses the default audio configs and has nearly no problems with sound quality. So I wonder whether it's worth to get such a fix. It is definetly worth it if you, or better said your call partner expierences a rather loud buzz. The fix will remove that buzz but won't fix other issues like rustling, echo or low volume. Those issues can mostly be addressed with software. Hope that helps, Michael signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FR cannot read uSD cards anymore
Hello all, My FR (v5) stopped reading SD cards a few weeks back. I've tested it with 9 uSD cards, 6 known to be good (brand new Kingston and SanDisk 2Gb cards). I've tried to contact my vendor (Truebox in the UK), but they have yet to respond. I think the reason for them not responding is that my FR is just outside it's 1 year warranty period (ended on the 10th of December 2009). Does anybody on this list know what could be done for me to get this repaired? Sean Moss-Pulz from Openmoko referred me back to Truebox (understandably so), but I cannot find any obvious place or person to help out. I live very close to London in the UK. Any thoughts/comments/help/flames would be welcome, since it would be a shame to have to stop using this excellent piece of hardware. I've been having great success with the new SHR (both testing and unstable distros), and also with the latest Android on Freerunner builds. After a year's playing about was all but ready to throw away my HP Windblowz phone! Please help me save my FR! Thanks in advance, -- Regards, Jan Henkins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR
2010/1/4 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au: What alternatives to the FR (with the same functionality) are there? I want 3G phone/sms access and the FR doesnt cut it any more ... The android phones (htc dream?) - none of which are fully functional on FSO/SHR (I think), and access through android to the underlying system is minimal. Flow - good but pricy, and unless I am looking at the design wrong, there is only one adapter/interface socket so you can have a phone, or a GSM device, but not both at the same time. Nokia n900 - probably the best choice at this time. What others are available NOW? BillK The Officer S101 seems interesting: http://www.road.de/en/handypcs/officer.html http://blog.hackable1.org/2009/08/running-hackable1-on-the-road-officer-s101.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko io error
Hello Roberto, On Mon, January 4, 2010 15:55, previdi.robe...@gmail.com wrote: sometimes, with no particular cause, but always when the phone is in use (using gps, or while getting the gsm signal, or while playing mokomaze), the image on the screen become corrupted by white horizontal lines, then the enlightenment crash window appears, and if i click on the second button it shows the console with this error: [10176.52] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 6478338 [10176.53] mmcblk0: error -110 sending status commandlt;3gt;mmcblk0:error -110 sending read/write command, response 0x0, card status 0x0[10176.54] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 6478338 [10176.55] mmcblk0: error -110 sending status commandlt;3gt;mmcblk0:error -110 sending read/write command, response 0x0, card status 0x0[10176.56] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 6478338 [10176.565000] mmcblk0: error -110 sending status commandlt;3gt;mmcblk0:error -110 sending read/write command, response 0x0, card status 0x0[10176.575000] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 6478338 [10176.58] mmcblk0: error -110 sending status commandlt;3gt;mmcblk0:error -110 sending read/write command, response 0x0, card status 0x0[10176.595000] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 6478338 [10176.60] mmcblk0: error -110 sending statuscommandlt;3gt;mmcblk0:error -110 sending read/write command, response0x0, card status 0x0[10176.615000] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 6478338 [10176.615000] mmcblk0: error -110 sending statuscommandlt;3gt;mmcblk0:error -110 sending read/write command, response0x0, card status 0x0[10176.625000] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 6478338 [10176.635000] mmcblk0: error -110 sending statuscommandlt;3gt;mmcblk0:error -110 sending read/write command, response0x0, card status 0x0 ... ad libitum Then, when i reboot the phone it will not find the gsm signal for ages and for many reboots. Then, eventually it will work again. is this normal? i tought it seems some electric bug related to the video chip and to the gsm chip... I seem to have a similar issue. In my case my FR does not read SD cards, and give the same error messages as above until the kernel simply disables and removes the mmcblk0 device. I seem to remember that at some point between the v.5 and v.6 hardware, a small resistor was put on to some legs of the SIM or uSD card reader connections (you should be able to see one on yours). I have a suspicion that this is what has gone wrong on your FR as well as mine. Unfortunately this is simply a wild guess from my part, I do not have the kit or expertise to test this. -- Regards, Jan Henkins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko io error
* Jan Henkins wrote, Il 04/01/2010 19:24: Hello Roberto, I seem to have a similar issue. In my case my FR does not read SD cards, and give the same error messages as above until the kernel simply disables and removes the mmcblk0 device. I seem to remember that at some point between the v.5 and v.6 hardware, a small resistor was put on to some legs of the SIM or uSD card reader connections (you should be able to see one on yours). I have a suspicion that this is what has gone wrong on your FR as well as mine. Unfortunately this is simply a wild guess from my part, I do not have the kit or expertise to test this. Me too i have the same issue (i'm V6), never had the chance to boot from the SD card :-( -- Andrea ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes What distribution you run most of the time? QtMoko If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Sometime ago I has two phones, a Nokia 5130 and a Nokia 5310, but I think in the complete change to the clear side of the force, and sold together and bought another Neo Freerunner for diary use and one for experiments!!! Actually have one for diary use and for experiments... Thank you :) -- http://nuevaeracr.blogspot.com Linux user number 478378 Linux machine number 386687 Tec. Esteban Monge Marín Tel: (506) 8379-3562 “No habrá manera de desarrollarnos y salir de la pobreza mientras los pocos negocios grandes de nuestro medio se entreguen a las economías foráneas y nosotros nos quedemos con solo negocios de pobre, mientras en vez de ser propietarios de nuestro propio país nos convirtamos en un ejército de empleados del exterior” José Figueres Ferrer, 1952. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Network Time
Am Montag, den 04.01.2010, 18:25 +0100 schrieb Esben Stien: Any way to extract the time from the GSM network and have the time set based on this? FSO contains support for that but so far I have not managed to receive a single NITZ report anywhere in the world. Might be a Calypso problem, then again only very few providers support NITZ reports in the first place. Timezone support is rare, but actual time support is extremely rare. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR
Am Montag, den 04.01.2010, 20:08 +0200 schrieb Margo: The Officer S101 seems interesting: http://www.road.de/en/handypcs/officer.html http://blog.hackable1.org/2009/08/running-hackable1-on-the-road-officer-s101.html Unfortunately it has been just around the corner and almost out for about 5 years now and the scheduled price tag when it actually comes out (of which I'm not convinced) will be way more than a N900 -- I doubt that it will spread wide that way :/ :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR unresponsiveness
2009/12/27 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de What is [h]top telling? :M: It has happened again, this time with wifi turned off (never touched it after booting), but with tangogps downloading map tiles connected through the usb. I turned off my laptop, so it might have lost connection while still downloading. I left it for a few hours, and it was completely unresponsive, with the blue led still on after I removed the usb cable. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-U] Wifi?
After many spent hours trying to get wifi and bluetooth up and running on SHR-U, I am about to conclude that these features just do not work. Wifi, after doing the bind and module reload things, works for about 10 pings, then appears to just stop, hanging the USB connection as well. Bluetooth, after trying to install bluez4 and encountering installation errors relating to lack of the bluetooth file in init.d, appears to do absolutely nothing. The mokonnect application is pretty useless to me for some reason, and the settings app appears to not set anything. Anybody actually have reliable bluetooth and/or wifi working on the SHR-U using the .29 kernel from last December? If so, what is the formula? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Wifi?
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 20:03, Iain B. FIndleton ifindle...@videotron.ca wrote: After many spent hours trying to get wifi and bluetooth up and running on SHR-U, I am about to conclude that these features just do not work. Wifi, after doing the bind and module reload things, works for about 10 pings, then appears to just stop, hanging the USB connection as well. Bluetooth, after trying to install bluez4 and encountering installation errors relating to lack of the bluetooth file in init.d, appears to do absolutely nothing. The mokonnect application is pretty useless to me for some reason, and the settings app appears to not set anything. Anybody actually have reliable bluetooth and/or wifi working on the SHR-U using the .29 kernel from last December? If so, what is the formula? I didn't try bluetooth, but WiFi just works here with plain wpa_supplicant, with open, WPA and WEP networks. When signal is weak, wmiconfig -i eth0 --power maxperf is sometimes very helpful. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navigation
hi,
If you want to look at progress, here is first version of MC Navi:
http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Newsfile=articleid=116
Currently not for usage, only as preview for Debian users.
downloaded the packages on my laptop:
van...@vanek:/tmp$ ./osm2mcmap
bash: ./osm2mcmap: cannot execute binary file
van...@vanek:/tmp$ strace ./osm2mcmap
execve(./osm2mcmap, [./osm2mcmap], [/* 38 vars */]) = -1 ENOEXEC
(Exec format error) dup(2) = 3
fcntl64(3, F_GETFL) = 0x8002 (flags
O_RDWR|O_LARGEFILE) fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0620,
st_rdev=makedev(136, 3), ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096,
PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb803e000
_llseek(3, 0, 0xbfb4d7d0, SEEK_CUR) = -1 ESPIPE (Illegal seek)
write(3, strace: exec: Exec format error\n, 32strace: exec: Exec
format error ) = 32 close(3)= 0
munmap(0xb803e000, 4096)= 0
exit_group(1) = ?
i get the same with the mcnavi
i get mcnavi trying to run on latest shr-u, but as i cannot convert
the map, i get:
# ./mcnavi
Cannot open map
sources would help to get the converter running...
cheers
Petr
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Re: Navigation
2010/1/4 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com: c'mon, you know he meant well Yes indeed. I apologize for raising this issue on Mike's thread; I should have started a new thread and so not have singled out Mike in particular. Best wishes, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMOko] Arora's problem and v.16
Thank you Radek for your good/hard work! QtMoko v.16 is very very fast, user friendly and it's the best stuff on frerunner in my opinion... But I have a problem with arora and v.16. Arora crashes after few seconds of use(always!) I think it is a regression because I rember this issue some releases ago with QtMoko and 2.6.29 and then it was fixed. how can I fix it again? DL -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/QtMOko-Arora-s-problem-and-v-16-tp4252007p4252007.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Wifi?
2010/1/4 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com: I didn't try bluetooth, but WiFi just works here with plain wpa_supplicant, with open, WPA and WEP networks. Is plain wpa_supplicant the default SHR setup? Last time I checked, I thought it wasn't. I've always wondered why not, as none of the other options (Mofi, wicd etc.) have ever worked as well for me as plain wpa_supplicant. Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Experimental technique for testing call audio quality?
From the recent survey, it seems that several people are still experiencing bad call audio quality; and I've personally had some bad reports of this recently (and my phone has been buzz-fixed). One of the problems, with trying to work on this, is finding a way to test audio quality repeatedly without spending lots of money on call charges and without taking up a lot of someone else's time (as the callee). Can anyone suggest an experimental technique that is reliable - in the sense of being close enough to what really happens on a call - and that doesn't take a lot of money or someone else's time? The best I've found so far is to call my work voicemail, speak to it, and get it to play my recording back to me. But that's still costing a bit. Any better ideas? Also, any recommendations on which of the various available mixer programs is the most effective for trying out audio setting combinations? Thanks, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Wifi?
I didn't try bluetooth, but WiFi just works here with plain wpa_supplicant, with open, WPA and WEP networks. Is plain wpa_supplicant the default SHR setup? Last time I checked, I thought it wasn't. I've always wondered why not, as none of the other options (Mofi, wicd etc.) have ever worked as well for me as plain wpa_supplicant. +1 for plain wpa_supplicant in SHR I tried several GUIs but none of them was sufficient - now I use wpa_supplicant (in roaming mode with config file, not dbus) and wpa_gui to configure my wpa_supplicant.conf. Plain wpa_supplicant has been working for me for many months now (no encryption, WPA(2) PSK, WEP). Christian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Wifi?
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:19:10 +0100 Christian Rüb christian.r...@gmx.net wrote: +1 for plain wpa_supplicant in SHR I tried several GUIs but none of them was sufficient - now I use wpa_supplicant (in roaming mode with config file, not dbus) and wpa_gui to configure my wpa_supplicant.conf. Plain wpa_supplicant has been working for me for many months now (no encryption, WPA(2) PSK, WEP). Can you post a quick howto here on how you do that? Thanks. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Wifi?
Plain wpa_supplicant has been working for me for many months now (no encryption, WPA(2) PSK, WEP). Can you post a quick howto here on how you do that? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/WiFi#Using_wpa_supplicant_manually P. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New project openmokontrol
Hi community, I just published a new project called openmokontrol. Im using a TCP/IP connection to any X server to control it with the fr's accelerometers, mainly for games ;). Maybe I will create a video for a short demonstration soon, let's see. It uses the X Test extension to send input events to the connected X server. Try playing Live for Speed (www.lfs.net) with it, its awesome. Here some links: http://www.opkg.org/package_322.html http://code.google.com/p/openmokontrol/ http://code.google.com/p/openmokontrol/wiki/Using I didn't manage to install the ipk file on my SHR run freerunner, I always get the following error: *** glibc detected *** opkg: free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x00ba6500 *** Aborted I don't get the error when Im installing the package to my toolchain, so I think it is SHR's problem, not the problem of a corrupted ipk file, is that right? If not, Id appreciate hints how to get rid of this error. Greetings, Martin. __ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Wifi?
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:35:24 +0100 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: Plain wpa_supplicant has been working for me for many months now (no encryption, WPA(2) PSK, WEP). Can you post a quick howto here on how you do that? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/WiFi#Using_wpa_supplicant_manually Okay thanks. I am thinking that it should be possible to put most of that procedure into a package, with a launcher icon to initiate the process. -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Wifi?
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/WiFi#Using_wpa_supplicant_manually Okay thanks. I am thinking that it should be possible to put most of that procedure into a package, with a launcher icon to initiate the i myself use iwconfig (the dbus methods just don't work for me...), but it would not be too hard to bend this script [1] to use wpa_suplicant P. [1] http://www.opkg.org/package_315.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix (Was: Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.netwrote: On Friday 01 January 2010 20:35:03 Jens Seidel wrote: On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 07:26:37PM +0100, Esben Damgaard wrote: Yes and no. I have two Freerunners (and a gta01 that collects dust). One without buzzfix. Using it for testing, programming and playing. Other one with buzzfix and using it as primary phone. I'm curious, do you notice any difference between the buzz fixed one and the other? I read that only a few phones are affected by the buzz problem but nearly all (including the buzz fixed ones) have major problems with audio quality (noise, echo). I own a rev. A5 freerunner and was seriously affected by the buzz problem. After applying the hardware fix the audio quality improved a lot. Before the fix there was no chance to use the FR as a phone. However, the audio quality was never as good as on a friends rev A7 FR (without buzz-fix). I did a lot of experimenting and tweaking with all possible audio parameters but the volume has always been either too low or distorted. He just uses the default audio configs and has nearly no problems with sound quality. So I wonder whether it's worth to get such a fix. It is definetly worth it if you, or better said your call partner expierences a rather loud buzz. The fix will remove that buzz but won't fix other issues like rustling, echo or low volume. Those issues can mostly be addressed with software. The fix will remove that buzz but won't fix other issues like rustling, echo or low volume. Those issues can mostly be addressed with software. The same happened to me, but i didn't find a viable software cnfiguration to use the fr as a phone. What about you? I'm really looking forward to replace my nokia N70 with fr for calls... d Hope that helps, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navigation
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.comwrote: 2010/1/4 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com: c'mon, you know he meant well Yes indeed. I apologize for raising this issue on Mike's thread; I should have started a new thread and so not have singled out Mike in particular. Best wishes, Neil just my 2c: maybe you confuse free software with open source software and viceversa... Mike releases his software as free software now... maybe late as an open source one. But that's not the topic. Keep on going guys! d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix (Was: Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
* Davide Scaini wrote, Il 04/01/2010 23:05: The fix will remove that buzz but won't fix other issues like rustling, echo or low volume. Those issues can mostly be addressed with software. The same happened to me, but i didn't find a viable software cnfiguration to use the fr as a phone. What about you? I'm really looking forward to replace my nokia N70 with fr for calls... I agree. Me too i have especially the low volume problem (i'm with QtMoko). I tried everything via mixer software, but without any success: phone calls are always with tiny volume, in an open space or also in a car, it's really difficult to ear the call. My phone it's a V6 release and without any buzzfix. Any suggestion? -- Andrea ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Wifi?
Plain wpa_supplicant has been working for me for many months now (no encryption, WPA(2) PSK, WEP). Can you post a quick howto here on how you do that? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/WiFi#Using_wpa_supplicant_manually P. I use it in conjunction with a wpa_action script (from Debian), so also IP configuration depends on the wireless network and does not have to be dhcp always. Setting a lower metric for your default gateway on USB (e.g. 100) also makes your traffic go through wireless and not USB... Once configured, all you have to do is turn wifi on and off... I have a README and scripts tared here: http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-new-unstable/wpa-roaming.tar http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-new-unstable/wpa-roaming.README Christian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New project openmokontrol
I just published a new project called openmokontrol. Im using a TCP/IP connection to any X server to control it with the fr's accelerometers, mainly for games ;). Maybe I will create a video for a short great! thank you. http://code.google.com/p/openmokontrol/wiki/Using I didn't manage to install the ipk file on my SHR run freerunner, I always get the following error: *** glibc detected *** opkg: free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x00ba6500 *** Aborted I don't get the error when Im installing the package to my toolchain, so I think it is SHR's problem, not the problem of a corrupted ipk file, is that right? If not, Id appreciate hints how to get rid of this error. Greetings, Martin. the ipk look a bit suspicious to me but extracting manually did the job, all is running well on shr-u. i don't know lfs but tux racer (extreme tux racer - etracer in debian) was great for testing. :) i think now it sends only left-right with arrows? later up/down for speeding/slowing would be great too :) cheers Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
AW: New project openmokontrol
You mean the mouse cursor? Tux racer can be controlled with mouse cursors? If you mean the Up/Down keys, they should be controllable, too. Make sure the usb port is upside, now you can bend it forwards, so the display is coming up. Now the Up Key should be pressed. Bend it backwards and the Back key should react. Von: Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz An: community@lists.openmoko.org Gesendet: Montag, den 4. Januar 2010, 23:20:45 Uhr Betreff: Re: New project openmokontrol I just published a new project called openmokontrol. Im using a TCP/IP connection to any X server to control it with the fr's accelerometers, mainly for games ;). Maybe I will create a video for a short great! thank you. http://code.google.com/p/openmokontrol/wiki/Using I didn't manage to install the ipk file on my SHR run freerunner, I always get the following error: *** glibc detected *** opkg: free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x00ba6500 *** Aborted I don't get the error when Im installing the package to my toolchain, so I think it is SHR's problem, not the problem of a corrupted ipk file, is that right? If not, Id appreciate hints how to get rid of this error. Greetings, Martin. the ipk look a bit suspicious to me but extracting manually did the job, all is running well on shr-u. i don't know lfs but tux racer (extreme tux racer - etracer in debian) was great for testing. :) i think now it sends only left-right with arrows? later up/down for speeding/slowing would be great too :) cheers Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community __ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New project openmokontrol
i think now it sends only left-right with arrows? later up/down for speeding/slowing would be great too :) it certainly does send up and down, now i can see, still need to practice a bit more :) P. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New project openmokontrol
I just replaced the ipk file, now it installs under SHR. Just redownload it from google code or opkg.org. Von: Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz An: community@lists.openmoko.org Gesendet: Montag, den 4. Januar 2010, 23:20:45 Uhr Betreff: Re: New project openmokontrol I just published a new project called openmokontrol. Im using a TCP/IP connection to any X server to control it with the fr's accelerometers, mainly for games ;). Maybe I will create a video for a short great! thank you. http://code.google.com/p/openmokontrol/wiki/Using I didn't manage to install the ipk file on my SHR run freerunner, I always get the following error: *** glibc detected *** opkg: free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x00ba6500 *** Aborted I don't get the error when Im installing the package to my toolchain, so I think it is SHR's problem, not the problem of a corrupted ipk file, is that right? If not, Id appreciate hints how to get rid of this error. Greetings, Martin. the ipk look a bit suspicious to me but extracting manually did the job, all is running well on shr-u. i don't know lfs but tux racer (extreme tux racer - etracer in debian) was great for testing. :) i think now it sends only left-right with arrows? later up/down for speeding/slowing would be great too :) cheers Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community __ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New project openmokontrol
You mean the mouse cursor? Tux racer can be controlled with mouse cursors? If you mean the Up/Down keys, they should be controllable, too. Make sure the usb port is upside, now you can bend it forwards, so the display is coming up. Now the Up Key should be pressed. Bend it backwards and the Back key should react. yeah, it works great with tux racer. but i better head to bed now, work tomorrow :) thank you Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New project openmokontrol
2010/1/4 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz i think now it sends only left-right with arrows? later up/down for speeding/slowing would be great too :) It would be cool if it were used as a joystick. Can you make fake joystick events in Xorg? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navigation
On 1/4/10, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.comwrote: 2010/1/4 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com: c'mon, you know he meant well Yes indeed. I apologize for raising this issue on Mike's thread; I should have started a new thread and so not have singled out Mike in particular. Best wishes, Neil just my 2c: maybe you confuse free software with open source software and viceversa... Mike releases his software as free software now... maybe late as an open source one. But that's not the topic. Keep on going guys! d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I think you're now confusing free software with freeware. Free software app has to be open source (but not in opposite way - freeware and open source apps not always are free software) What he did is freeware. Open source could be when I'd be able to look at source, and free software would be when I'd be able to do with that source what I want. Remember, in free software term free means freedom, not free beer (as in freeware) :P -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR
This is one I was not aware of - looks nice but its still not 3G capable BillK On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 20:08 +0200, Margo wrote: 2010/1/4 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au: What alternatives to the FR (with the same functionality) are there? I want 3G phone/sms access and the FR doesnt cut it any more ... The android phones (htc dream?) - none of which are fully functional on FSO/SHR (I think), and access through android to the underlying system is minimal. Flow - good but pricy, and unless I am looking at the design wrong, there is only one adapter/interface socket so you can have a phone, or a GSM device, but not both at the same time. Nokia n900 - probably the best choice at this time. What others are available NOW? BillK The Officer S101 seems interesting: http://www.road.de/en/handypcs/officer.html http://blog.hackable1.org/2009/08/running-hackable1-on-the-road-officer-s101.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Network Time
Not quite - it should be if available - network time is not part of the base GSM standard but an extension which many (most?) networks done use. The zone is part of the standard, but if your provider crosses multi timezones as here in australia, you might not be able to properly use it. Beware using the default time server for network time - in europe it might be ok, but it has jitter and offset here in australia at times - set it to a local timeserver in /etc/frameworkd.conf. Time keeping has improved a lot, but I still find I connect to a network or use GPS once a day to make sure it stays on time. BillK On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 18:31 +0100, Marc Verwerft wrote: The section about Date/time settings in the SHR wiki from openmoko http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Date_and_time says: Date and time are automatically set from GPS or Network Regards, Marc On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name wrote: Any way to extract the time from the GSM network and have the time set based on this?. Any distro that does this or any tools available?. Many phones have this capability. It would also be nice to set the time based on GPS, when that is available, but often when indoors, only GSM works. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New project openmokontrol
В Пнд, 04/01/2010 в 21:35 +, hab keen oh ne пишет: Hi community, I just published a new project called openmokontrol. Im using a TCP/IP connection to any X server to control it with the fr's accelerometers, mainly for games ;). Maybe I will create a video for a short demonstration soon, let's see. It uses the X Test extension to send input events to the connected X server. Try playing Live for Speed (www.lfs.net) with it, its awesome. Here some links: http://www.opkg.org/package_322.html http://code.google.com/p/openmokontrol/ http://code.google.com/p/openmokontrol/wiki/Using I didn't manage to install the ipk file on my SHR run freerunner, I always get the following error: *** glibc detected *** opkg: free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x00ba6500 *** Aborted I don't get the error when Im installing the package to my toolchain, so I think it is SHR's problem, not the problem of a corrupted ipk file, is that right? If not, Id appreciate hints how to get rid of this error. Greetings, Martin. Hi, Martin. I just wanted to do some similar experiment (in a bit other way than NIDE and remoko), so I download your code to check it out. I compiled it for debian, noticed several problems: 1. missing makefile, had to build it with g++ *cc -o kontrol -Iaux -lXtst 2. missing #include sys/time.h in accs.cc. and finally, didn't understand how to use it in 'normal' mode. my server connection is ok (I can run xterm on FR with DISPLAY set to host), but nothing happens on host with mouse pointer then I am running application on freerunner. Gennady ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New project openmokontrol
Great work, thanks for this. At the risk of straying somewhat off topic, I would love to have an app on the FR to allow me to use the FR as a remote control for my MythTV front-end albeit accelerometers not really needed, although some gestures could be useful down the track. Does anyone know if there is something already available which I could get going on the FR ? The following thread http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5045highlight=wifi talks of mythwifi and I know mythtv supports a telnet interface but all a little out of my depth cheers Denis On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 7:35 AM, hab keen oh ne baba_mel...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi community, I just published a new project called openmokontrol. Im using a TCP/IP connection to any X server to control it with the fr's accelerometers, mainly for games ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Network Time
Just as a data point, I have checked the default settings in shr-t but I know I have to use the date command in an ssh session to get date and time set correctly and also do a hardware sync. Strangely it seems to keep the time until I re-connect via usb and ssh in, from there the time goes out. I am also in Aus (Qld) on savytel (vodafone) network. Obviously I need to investigate further. cheers Denis On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:54 AM, W.Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: Not quite - it should be if available - network time is not part of the base GSM standard but an extension which many (most?) networks done use. The zone is part of the standard, but if your provider crosses multi timezones as here in australia, you might not be able to properly use it. Beware using the default time server for network time - in europe it might be ok, but it has jitter and offset here in australia at times - set it to a local timeserver in /etc/frameworkd.conf. Time keeping has improved a lot, but I still find I connect to a network or use GPS once a day to make sure it stays on time. BillK On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 18:31 +0100, Marc Verwerft wrote: The section about Date/time settings in the SHR wiki from openmoko http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Date_and_time says: Date and time are automatically set from GPS or Network Regards, Marc On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name wrote: Any way to extract the time from the GSM network and have the time set based on this?. Any distro that does this or any tools available?. Many phones have this capability. It would also be nice to set the time based on GPS, when that is available, but often when indoors, only GSM works. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s t n m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@ n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New project openmokontrol
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com wrote: Great work, thanks for this. At the risk of straying somewhat off topic, I would love to have an app on the FR to allow me to use the FR as a remote control for my MythTV front-end albeit accelerometers not really needed, although some gestures could be useful down the track. Does anyone know if there is something already available which I could get going on the FR ? The following thread [...] You may try http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NIDE/NIDED Regards Niko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New project openmokontrol
Sounds perfect !! you have me salivating, many thanks for the link and prompt response... something to play with tonight :-) cheers Denis On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Denis Johnson denis.john...@gmail.com wrote: Great work, thanks for this. At the risk of straying somewhat off topic, I would love to have an app on the FR to allow me to use the FR as a remote control for my MythTV front-end albeit accelerometers not really needed, although some gestures could be useful down the track. Does anyone know if there is something already available which I could get going on the FR ? The following thread [...] You may try http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NIDE/NIDED Regards Niko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Network Time
I am also on vodafone (Perth). I have not checked zoneinfo recently , but time is never sent. At one point Perth was in the eastern states zone for vodafone which was ... odd. I get a lot of: 2010.01.05 13:57:53.619 otimed INFO GSM: multiple zones found messages in the framework log, but not sure what they mean. If your routing is ok, the FR will try and set its time via the european server, which is pretty flaky - I use a local server and that works fine over usb and wifi - set it in frameworkd.conf. The time must be within some undefined (I cant find what it is) window before network time will set it - if its too far out it will silently fail. GSM time will work regardless. Make sure that your timezone and localtime files are ok (and not a symlink) The phone rarely drifts away from time sync, but usually a large discrepancy after a reboot/crash/remove battery. BillK On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 14:39 +1000, Denis Johnson wrote: Just as a data point, I have checked the default settings in shr-t but I know I have to use the date command in an ssh session to get date and time set correctly and also do a hardware sync. Strangely it seems to keep the time until I re-connect via usb and ssh in, from there the time goes out. I am also in Aus (Qld) on savytel (vodafone) network. Obviously I need to investigate further. cheers Denis On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:54 AM, W.Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: Not quite - it should be if available - network time is not part of the base GSM standard but an extension which many (most?) networks done use. The zone is part of the standard, but if your provider crosses multi timezones as here in australia, you might not be able to properly use it. Beware using the default time server for network time - in europe it might be ok, but it has jitter and offset here in australia at times - set it to a local timeserver in /etc/frameworkd.conf. Time keeping has improved a lot, but I still find I connect to a network or use GPS once a day to make sure it stays on time. BillK On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 18:31 +0100, Marc Verwerft wrote: The section about Date/time settings in the SHR wiki from openmoko http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Date_and_time says: Date and time are automatically set from GPS or Network Regards, Marc On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name wrote: Any way to extract the time from the GSM network and have the time set based on this?. Any distro that does this or any tools available?. Many phones have this capability. It would also be nice to set the time based on GPS, when that is available, but often when indoors, only GSM works. -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v16
Hi !! First at all I have to thanks any people working on QtMoko. This distr is really nice ! I have tried SHR and Hackable:1 but my favourite is for sure QtMoko ! (Hackable:1 could be nice, but I cannot manage to have SMS working). Secondly, I have the following questions about QtMoko : 1) In contacts details, the size of the font of the phone numbers is real large and some time not. I encountered the same problem with the rich text format of sms (hyperlinks have a real large size of font). How is managed the font size of the display ? 2) With v16, I have problems with 'Arora' and 'Web Browser' : both applications crash during the load of a page. Thanks and Regards, David -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/QtMoko-v16-tp4198642p4253974.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
