Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
A lot of the people that post stuff on Craigslist are incredibly lazy regarding the postings. I bet that a 3rd of the inquiries I make on items for sale never get a reply, even for more expensive items like $5000 trailers etc. The postings are free so they seem to think that they can ignore the listings as desired.. Either that or they simply don't have any sales acumen. The guys on Ebay are paying for the ability to post adds so they tend to be much more responsive. Regarding scams on Craigslist ... there was someone or a group that was consistently posting the same Airstream Travel trailer over and over again across the country. The same exact trailer was in about 20 locations around the US at the same time.. Even after it was flagged as a scam several times, the same trailer kept popping up again and again. The trailer (if it existed) was worth in the $25K range and they were selling it for $6000 or so... not unlike the Bobcat scams. If you want to search Craigslist over a larger area than one city try SearchTempest.comIt works ok. Dave On 7/2/2013 8:29 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > I agree this is not an auction but the listing says starting price is > USD500.00. That suggests and auction. I asked to be informed of the > seller's intent. > This seems a reasonable price for a machine like this if the owner's desire > is to dispose of this quick and has no use for the box of tooling. > Seems to me the owner has second thoughts of getting rid of the machine. > This is always the owners choice. It would be nice for the owner to remove > the listing or respond to the questions from the site. There may be > extenuating circumstances eg health, accident... that prevent response. > Keep watching and see if something happens. > This is a sweet deal - IMHO. One person's junk is the next person's > treasure. :) > > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Charles Steinkuehler< > char...@steinkuehler.net> wrote: > > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 7/1/2013 11:21 AM, Dave wrote: >> >>> It isn't actually an auction as it is on Craigslist.. >>> >>> Charles said they did not respond to him. So I sent them an email >>> also and did not receive a response either. >>> >>> http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/3892182813.html >>> >> Yeah, not much of a scam if they don't tell you where to send your >> deposit to hold the machine! :) >> >> ...unless they're just harvesting e-mail addresses, but I gave up >> trying to keep mine secret ages ago. :-/ >> >> - -- >> Charles Steinkuehler >> char...@steinkuehler.net >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAlHRrtUACgkQLywbqEHdNFyLvQCfRf+OAVg3W/whecb9NmMYCdFS >> VS8AoJ5w6X9OUx9U17Sv7ZvJvG6hi7Rp >> =44Hm >> -END PGP SIGNATURE- >> >> >> -- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: >> >> Build for Windows Store. >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> > > > -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
I agree this is not an auction but the listing says starting price is USD500.00. That suggests and auction. I asked to be informed of the seller's intent. This seems a reasonable price for a machine like this if the owner's desire is to dispose of this quick and has no use for the box of tooling. Seems to me the owner has second thoughts of getting rid of the machine. This is always the owners choice. It would be nice for the owner to remove the listing or respond to the questions from the site. There may be extenuating circumstances eg health, accident... that prevent response. Keep watching and see if something happens. This is a sweet deal - IMHO. One person's junk is the next person's treasure. :) On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Charles Steinkuehler < char...@steinkuehler.net> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 7/1/2013 11:21 AM, Dave wrote: > > It isn't actually an auction as it is on Craigslist.. > > > > Charles said they did not respond to him. So I sent them an email > > also and did not receive a response either. > > > > http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/3892182813.html > > Yeah, not much of a scam if they don't tell you where to send your > deposit to hold the machine! :) > > ...unless they're just harvesting e-mail addresses, but I gave up > trying to keep mine secret ages ago. :-/ > > - -- > Charles Steinkuehler > char...@steinkuehler.net > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAlHRrtUACgkQLywbqEHdNFyLvQCfRf+OAVg3W/whecb9NmMYCdFS > VS8AoJ5w6X9OUx9U17Sv7ZvJvG6hi7Rp > =44Hm > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > -- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private correspondence. Thank you for honoring my wish. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/1/2013 11:21 AM, Dave wrote: > It isn't actually an auction as it is on Craigslist.. > > Charles said they did not respond to him. So I sent them an email > also and did not receive a response either. > > http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/3892182813.html Yeah, not much of a scam if they don't tell you where to send your deposit to hold the machine! :) ...unless they're just harvesting e-mail addresses, but I gave up trying to keep mine secret ages ago. :-/ - -- Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHRrtUACgkQLywbqEHdNFyLvQCfRf+OAVg3W/whecb9NmMYCdFS VS8AoJ5w6X9OUx9U17Sv7ZvJvG6hi7Rp =44Hm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
It isn't actually an auction as it is on Craigslist.. Charles said they did not respond to him. So I sent them an email also and did not receive a response either. http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/3892182813.html Dave -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
On 7/1/2013 10:27 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 1 July 2013 15:15, Eric Keller wrote: > > >> This mill would be an unbelievable deal, >> > I don't think it is that unbelievable, if the owner thinks it is > broken and wants the space. > > $500 is about scrap value. Dave -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
On 1 July 2013 15:15, Eric Keller wrote: > This mill would be an unbelievable deal, I don't think it is that unbelievable, if the owner thinks it is broken and wants the space. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > How would the scam work? I am not exactly sure how the scam works, but I suspect you give them money for something that only exists in pictures because they stole the picture from somewhere else. That's how it works with cheap cars and bobcats. From what I can tell there are at least a few machine tool scammers out there. If you want to find out more about it, search for "bobcat craigslist scam" without the quotes. There are a couple of sad stories out there. This mill would be an unbelievable deal, even for someone who wanted to sell the tooling on ebay and scrap out the mill. Alarm bells should be ringing. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
On 1 July 2013 14:17, John Thornton wrote: > What auction? That is a link to MSC... I think that the point is that the $500 starting price is a bargain just for 2 of the tool holders. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
I must have missed the link to the auction... Thanks JT On 7/1/2013 8:25 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > the craigslist listing says the price is the starting price > > the msc link is to compare the price of one tool adapter to the box shown > in the listing > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:17 AM, John Thornton wrote: > >> What auction? That is a link to MSC... >> >> JT >> >> On 7/1/2013 7:39 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: >> http://www.mscdirect.com/product/84955046?src=pla&008=-99&007=Search&pcrid=25122952264&006=25122952264&005=53306267824&004=7506871264&002=2167139&mkwid=smTSbiWNy&cid=PLA-Google-PLA+-+Test_smTSbiWNy_PLA__25122952264_c_S&026=nv&025=c >>> guys >>> take a gander at this link >>> >>> this "auction" could possibly be a good buy for someone >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Stuart Stevenson >> wrote: I sent an email asking the terms of this "auction". On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Stuart Stevenson >> wrote: > upon further inspection I see the tool change spanner sitting on the > table with the knee handle > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 5:45 AM, John Thornton >> wrote: >> The Kwik-Switch tooling is held on with a spring loaded nut and the >> nut >> gets tighter the more force you put on the tool. This system works >> great >> and should not be confused with other quick switch systems which I >> know >> nothing about. >> >> JT >> >> On 6/30/2013 5:16 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: >>> On 06/30/2013 02:34 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'd love to buy it, but there is no actual contact info in the craigslist posting, I have received no response to e-mail to the one-off craigslist e-mail address, and all identifying meta-data was stripped from the jpeg photos (so no GPS or anything). :( I'm still somewhat hoping to get an e-mail out of the blue, but at this point I'm not holding my breath. On 6/30/2013 4:24 PM, Dave wrote: > I didn't notice that. I have an Erikson QC 30 on my Bridgeport II > and it is nice. >>> Just in case, see Quick-Change (not Quick-Switch) here: >>> http://www.tools-n-gizmos.com/specs/Tapers.html >>> >>> My mill appears to have the same head, but uses NMTB 40 tools with a >>> power draw bar. My take on some of the chatter I've seen on forums is >>> that when the Quick-xxx nuts get worn, tools are hard to lock and can >>> fall out in dramatic fashion. >>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/290928102085 >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/330945298681 >>> >> >> >> -- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: >> >> Build for Windows Store. >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > -- > Addressee is the intended audience. > If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to >> read > this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without >> saving or > reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private > correspondence. > Thank you for honoring my wish. > -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to >> read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without >> saving or reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private correspondence. Thank you for honoring my wish. >>> >> >> >> -- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: >> >> Build for Windows Store. >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
the craigslist listing says the price is the starting price the msc link is to compare the price of one tool adapter to the box shown in the listing On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:17 AM, John Thornton wrote: > What auction? That is a link to MSC... > > JT > > On 7/1/2013 7:39 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > > > http://www.mscdirect.com/product/84955046?src=pla&008=-99&007=Search&pcrid=25122952264&006=25122952264&005=53306267824&004=7506871264&002=2167139&mkwid=smTSbiWNy&cid=PLA-Google-PLA+-+Test_smTSbiWNy_PLA__25122952264_c_S&026=nv&025=c > > > > guys > > take a gander at this link > > > > this "auction" could possibly be a good buy for someone > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Stuart Stevenson > wrote: > > > >> I sent an email asking the terms of this "auction". > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Stuart Stevenson >wrote: > >> > >>> upon further inspection I see the tool change spanner sitting on the > >>> table with the knee handle > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 5:45 AM, John Thornton > wrote: > >>> > The Kwik-Switch tooling is held on with a spring loaded nut and the > nut > gets tighter the more force you put on the tool. This system works > great > and should not be confused with other quick switch systems which I > know > nothing about. > > JT > > On 6/30/2013 5:16 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > > On 06/30/2013 02:34 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> I'd love to buy it, but there is no actual contact info in the > >> craigslist posting, I have received no response to e-mail to the > >> one-off craigslist e-mail address, and all identifying meta-data was > >> stripped from the jpeg photos (so no GPS or anything). :( > >> > >> I'm still somewhat hoping to get an e-mail out of the blue, but at > >> this point I'm not holding my breath. > >> > >> On 6/30/2013 4:24 PM, Dave wrote: > >>> I didn't notice that. I have an Erikson QC 30 on my Bridgeport II > >>> and it is nice. > > Just in case, see Quick-Change (not Quick-Switch) here: > > http://www.tools-n-gizmos.com/specs/Tapers.html > > > > My mill appears to have the same head, but uses NMTB 40 tools with a > > power draw bar. My take on some of the chatter I've seen on forums is > > that when the Quick-xxx nuts get worn, tools are hard to lock and can > > fall out in dramatic fashion. > > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/290928102085 > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/330945298681 > > > > > > -- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Addressee is the intended audience. > >>> If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to > read > >>> this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without > saving or > >>> reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private > >>> correspondence. > >>> Thank you for honoring my wish. > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Addressee is the intended audience. > >> If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to > read > >> this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without > saving or > >> reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private > >> correspondence. > >> Thank you for honoring my wish. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private correspondence. Thank you for honoring my wish. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
What auction? That is a link to MSC... JT On 7/1/2013 7:39 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > http://www.mscdirect.com/product/84955046?src=pla&008=-99&007=Search&pcrid=25122952264&006=25122952264&005=53306267824&004=7506871264&002=2167139&mkwid=smTSbiWNy&cid=PLA-Google-PLA+-+Test_smTSbiWNy_PLA__25122952264_c_S&026=nv&025=c > > guys > take a gander at this link > > this "auction" could possibly be a good buy for someone > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > >> I sent an email asking the terms of this "auction". >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: >> >>> upon further inspection I see the tool change spanner sitting on the >>> table with the knee handle >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 5:45 AM, John Thornton wrote: >>> The Kwik-Switch tooling is held on with a spring loaded nut and the nut gets tighter the more force you put on the tool. This system works great and should not be confused with other quick switch systems which I know nothing about. JT On 6/30/2013 5:16 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On 06/30/2013 02:34 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> I'd love to buy it, but there is no actual contact info in the >> craigslist posting, I have received no response to e-mail to the >> one-off craigslist e-mail address, and all identifying meta-data was >> stripped from the jpeg photos (so no GPS or anything). :( >> >> I'm still somewhat hoping to get an e-mail out of the blue, but at >> this point I'm not holding my breath. >> >> On 6/30/2013 4:24 PM, Dave wrote: >>> I didn't notice that. I have an Erikson QC 30 on my Bridgeport II >>> and it is nice. > Just in case, see Quick-Change (not Quick-Switch) here: > http://www.tools-n-gizmos.com/specs/Tapers.html > > My mill appears to have the same head, but uses NMTB 40 tools with a > power draw bar. My take on some of the chatter I've seen on forums is > that when the Quick-xxx nuts get worn, tools are hard to lock and can > fall out in dramatic fashion. > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/290928102085 > http://www.ebay.com/itm/330945298681 > -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Addressee is the intended audience. >>> If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read >>> this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or >>> reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private >>> correspondence. >>> Thank you for honoring my wish. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Addressee is the intended audience. >> If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read >> this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or >> reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private >> correspondence. >> Thank you for honoring my wish. >> > > -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
How would the scam work? On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Eric Keller wrote: > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Stuart Stevenson > wrote: > > > > this "auction" could possibly be a good buy for someone > > quite possible it's just a scam. Sure, it's not a bobcat for $3000, > but it's pretty tempting for some people > > > -- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private correspondence. Thank you for honoring my wish. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > > this "auction" could possibly be a good buy for someone quite possible it's just a scam. Sure, it's not a bobcat for $3000, but it's pretty tempting for some people -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
with a quik switch system :) On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > > http://www.mscdirect.com/product/84955046?src=pla&008=-99&007=Search&pcrid=25122952264&006=25122952264&005=53306267824&004=7506871264&002=2167139&mkwid=smTSbiWNy&cid=PLA-Google-PLA+-+Test_smTSbiWNy_PLA__25122952264_c_S&026=nv&025=c > > guys > take a gander at this link > > this "auction" could possibly be a good buy for someone > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > >> I sent an email asking the terms of this "auction". >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: >> >>> upon further inspection I see the tool change spanner sitting on the >>> table with the knee handle >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 5:45 AM, John Thornton wrote: >>> The Kwik-Switch tooling is held on with a spring loaded nut and the nut gets tighter the more force you put on the tool. This system works great and should not be confused with other quick switch systems which I know nothing about. JT On 6/30/2013 5:16 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On 06/30/2013 02:34 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> I'd love to buy it, but there is no actual contact info in the >> craigslist posting, I have received no response to e-mail to the >> one-off craigslist e-mail address, and all identifying meta-data was >> stripped from the jpeg photos (so no GPS or anything). :( >> >> I'm still somewhat hoping to get an e-mail out of the blue, but at >> this point I'm not holding my breath. >> >> On 6/30/2013 4:24 PM, Dave wrote: >>> I didn't notice that. I have an Erikson QC 30 on my Bridgeport II >>> and it is nice. > Just in case, see Quick-Change (not Quick-Switch) here: > http://www.tools-n-gizmos.com/specs/Tapers.html > > My mill appears to have the same head, but uses NMTB 40 tools with a > power draw bar. My take on some of the chatter I've seen on forums is > that when the Quick-xxx nuts get worn, tools are hard to lock and can > fall out in dramatic fashion. > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/290928102085 > http://www.ebay.com/itm/330945298681 > -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Addressee is the intended audience. >>> If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to >>> read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without >>> saving or reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private >>> correspondence. >>> Thank you for honoring my wish. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Addressee is the intended audience. >> If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read >> this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or >> reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private >> correspondence. >> Thank you for honoring my wish. >> > > > > -- > Addressee is the intended audience. > If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read > this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or > reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private > correspondence. > Thank you for honoring my wish. > -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private correspondence. Thank you for honoring my wish. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
http://www.mscdirect.com/product/84955046?src=pla&008=-99&007=Search&pcrid=25122952264&006=25122952264&005=53306267824&004=7506871264&002=2167139&mkwid=smTSbiWNy&cid=PLA-Google-PLA+-+Test_smTSbiWNy_PLA__25122952264_c_S&026=nv&025=c guys take a gander at this link this "auction" could possibly be a good buy for someone On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > I sent an email asking the terms of this "auction". > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > >> upon further inspection I see the tool change spanner sitting on the >> table with the knee handle >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 5:45 AM, John Thornton wrote: >> >>> The Kwik-Switch tooling is held on with a spring loaded nut and the nut >>> gets tighter the more force you put on the tool. This system works great >>> and should not be confused with other quick switch systems which I know >>> nothing about. >>> >>> JT >>> >>> On 6/30/2013 5:16 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: >>> > On 06/30/2013 02:34 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: >>> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> >> Hash: SHA1 >>> >> >>> >> I'd love to buy it, but there is no actual contact info in the >>> >> craigslist posting, I have received no response to e-mail to the >>> >> one-off craigslist e-mail address, and all identifying meta-data was >>> >> stripped from the jpeg photos (so no GPS or anything). :( >>> >> >>> >> I'm still somewhat hoping to get an e-mail out of the blue, but at >>> >> this point I'm not holding my breath. >>> >> >>> >> On 6/30/2013 4:24 PM, Dave wrote: >>> >>> I didn't notice that. I have an Erikson QC 30 on my Bridgeport II >>> >>> and it is nice. >>> > Just in case, see Quick-Change (not Quick-Switch) here: >>> > http://www.tools-n-gizmos.com/specs/Tapers.html >>> > >>> > My mill appears to have the same head, but uses NMTB 40 tools with a >>> > power draw bar. My take on some of the chatter I've seen on forums is >>> > that when the Quick-xxx nuts get worn, tools are hard to lock and can >>> > fall out in dramatic fashion. >>> > >>> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/290928102085 >>> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/330945298681 >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: >>> >>> Build for Windows Store. >>> >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev >>> ___ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Addressee is the intended audience. >> If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read >> this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or >> reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private >> correspondence. >> Thank you for honoring my wish. >> > > > > -- > Addressee is the intended audience. > If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read > this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or > reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private > correspondence. > Thank you for honoring my wish. > -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private correspondence. Thank you for honoring my wish. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
I sent an email asking the terms of this "auction". On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > upon further inspection I see the tool change spanner sitting on the table > with the knee handle > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 5:45 AM, John Thornton wrote: > >> The Kwik-Switch tooling is held on with a spring loaded nut and the nut >> gets tighter the more force you put on the tool. This system works great >> and should not be confused with other quick switch systems which I know >> nothing about. >> >> JT >> >> On 6/30/2013 5:16 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: >> > On 06/30/2013 02:34 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> I'd love to buy it, but there is no actual contact info in the >> >> craigslist posting, I have received no response to e-mail to the >> >> one-off craigslist e-mail address, and all identifying meta-data was >> >> stripped from the jpeg photos (so no GPS or anything). :( >> >> >> >> I'm still somewhat hoping to get an e-mail out of the blue, but at >> >> this point I'm not holding my breath. >> >> >> >> On 6/30/2013 4:24 PM, Dave wrote: >> >>> I didn't notice that. I have an Erikson QC 30 on my Bridgeport II >> >>> and it is nice. >> > Just in case, see Quick-Change (not Quick-Switch) here: >> > http://www.tools-n-gizmos.com/specs/Tapers.html >> > >> > My mill appears to have the same head, but uses NMTB 40 tools with a >> > power draw bar. My take on some of the chatter I've seen on forums is >> > that when the Quick-xxx nuts get worn, tools are hard to lock and can >> > fall out in dramatic fashion. >> > >> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/290928102085 >> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/330945298681 >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: >> >> Build for Windows Store. >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > > > > -- > Addressee is the intended audience. > If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read > this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or > reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private > correspondence. > Thank you for honoring my wish. > -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private correspondence. Thank you for honoring my wish. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
upon further inspection I see the tool change spanner sitting on the table with the knee handle On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 5:45 AM, John Thornton wrote: > The Kwik-Switch tooling is held on with a spring loaded nut and the nut > gets tighter the more force you put on the tool. This system works great > and should not be confused with other quick switch systems which I know > nothing about. > > JT > > On 6/30/2013 5:16 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > > On 06/30/2013 02:34 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> I'd love to buy it, but there is no actual contact info in the > >> craigslist posting, I have received no response to e-mail to the > >> one-off craigslist e-mail address, and all identifying meta-data was > >> stripped from the jpeg photos (so no GPS or anything). :( > >> > >> I'm still somewhat hoping to get an e-mail out of the blue, but at > >> this point I'm not holding my breath. > >> > >> On 6/30/2013 4:24 PM, Dave wrote: > >>> I didn't notice that. I have an Erikson QC 30 on my Bridgeport II > >>> and it is nice. > > Just in case, see Quick-Change (not Quick-Switch) here: > > http://www.tools-n-gizmos.com/specs/Tapers.html > > > > My mill appears to have the same head, but uses NMTB 40 tools with a > > power draw bar. My take on some of the chatter I've seen on forums is > > that when the Quick-xxx nuts get worn, tools are hard to lock and can > > fall out in dramatic fashion. > > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/290928102085 > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/330945298681 > > > > > > -- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Addressee is the intended audience. If you are not the addressee then my consent is not given for you to read this email furthermore it is my wish you would close this without saving or reading, and cease and desist from saving or opening my private correspondence. Thank you for honoring my wish. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
The Kwik-Switch tooling is held on with a spring loaded nut and the nut gets tighter the more force you put on the tool. This system works great and should not be confused with other quick switch systems which I know nothing about. JT On 6/30/2013 5:16 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On 06/30/2013 02:34 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> I'd love to buy it, but there is no actual contact info in the >> craigslist posting, I have received no response to e-mail to the >> one-off craigslist e-mail address, and all identifying meta-data was >> stripped from the jpeg photos (so no GPS or anything). :( >> >> I'm still somewhat hoping to get an e-mail out of the blue, but at >> this point I'm not holding my breath. >> >> On 6/30/2013 4:24 PM, Dave wrote: >>> I didn't notice that. I have an Erikson QC 30 on my Bridgeport II >>> and it is nice. > Just in case, see Quick-Change (not Quick-Switch) here: > http://www.tools-n-gizmos.com/specs/Tapers.html > > My mill appears to have the same head, but uses NMTB 40 tools with a > power draw bar. My take on some of the chatter I've seen on forums is > that when the Quick-xxx nuts get worn, tools are hard to lock and can > fall out in dramatic fashion. > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/290928102085 > http://www.ebay.com/itm/330945298681 > -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
On 06/30/2013 02:34 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'd love to buy it, but there is no actual contact info in the > craigslist posting, I have received no response to e-mail to the > one-off craigslist e-mail address, and all identifying meta-data was > stripped from the jpeg photos (so no GPS or anything). :( > > I'm still somewhat hoping to get an e-mail out of the blue, but at > this point I'm not holding my breath. > > On 6/30/2013 4:24 PM, Dave wrote: >> I didn't notice that. I have an Erikson QC 30 on my Bridgeport II >> and it is nice. Just in case, see Quick-Change (not Quick-Switch) here: http://www.tools-n-gizmos.com/specs/Tapers.html My mill appears to have the same head, but uses NMTB 40 tools with a power draw bar. My take on some of the chatter I've seen on forums is that when the Quick-xxx nuts get worn, tools are hard to lock and can fall out in dramatic fashion. http://www.ebay.com/itm/290928102085 http://www.ebay.com/itm/330945298681 -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/ -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'd love to buy it, but there is no actual contact info in the craigslist posting, I have received no response to e-mail to the one-off craigslist e-mail address, and all identifying meta-data was stripped from the jpeg photos (so no GPS or anything). :( I'm still somewhat hoping to get an e-mail out of the blue, but at this point I'm not holding my breath. On 6/30/2013 4:24 PM, Dave wrote: > I didn't notice that. I have an Erikson QC 30 on my Bridgeport II > and it is nice. > > Did anyone on the list buy that mill? > > Charles??:-) > > Dave Cole > > On 6/30/2013 12:43 PM, Steve Stallings wrote: >>> -Original Message- From: Chris Radek >>> [mailto:ch...@timeguy.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 12:08 >>> AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: >>> [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:18:06PM -0500, Charles Steinkuehler >>> wrote: >>> >>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >>>> >>>> Besides my 3D printing endeavors, I am involved with trying >>>> to get a hackerspace going here in Topeka. Recently a CNC >>>> mill that >>>> >>> might make >>> >>>> a good LinuxCNC retrofit candidate popped up on the local >>>> >>> craigslist: >>> >>>> >> >> >> >>> I notice there's no tool release button marked on the panel. I >>> would really NOT want a manual drawbar on a CNC, especially if >>> the top of the head's 8 feet in the air. >>> >>> >> Really late response here... but that looks like Erikson Quick >> Change 40 taper tooling. Manual change only, but everything >> happens at the bottom end of the spindle, not the top. >> >> Steve Stallings >> >> >> -- >> >> This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: >> >> Build for Windows Store. >> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev >> ___ Emc-users mailing >> list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> > > > -- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > ___ Emc-users mailing > list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - -- Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHQpGgACgkQLywbqEHdNFy1EwCcC4UJQpjVqiECs0bjPFiUlI+5 i3AAn0ujIZhhxPvoj4h0OFN9IxLyDGd9 =GF+w -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
I didn't notice that. I have an Erikson QC 30 on my Bridgeport II and it is nice. Did anyone on the list buy that mill? Charles??:-) Dave Cole On 6/30/2013 12:43 PM, Steve Stallings wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Chris Radek [mailto:ch...@timeguy.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 12:08 AM >> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice >> >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:18:06PM -0500, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: >> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> Besides my 3D printing endeavors, I am involved with trying to get a >>> hackerspace going here in Topeka. Recently a CNC mill that >>> >> might make >> >>> a good LinuxCNC retrofit candidate popped up on the local >>> >> craigslist: >> >>> > > > >> I notice there's no tool release button marked on >> the panel. I would really NOT want a manual drawbar on a CNC, >> especially if the top of the head's 8 feet in the air. >> >> > Really late response here... but that looks like > Erikson Quick Change 40 taper tooling. Manual change > only, but everything happens at the bottom end of the > spindle, not the top. > > Steve Stallings > > > -- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
> -Original Message- > From: Chris Radek [mailto:ch...@timeguy.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 12:08 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:18:06PM -0500, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Besides my 3D printing endeavors, I am involved with trying to get a > > hackerspace going here in Topeka. Recently a CNC mill that > might make > > a good LinuxCNC retrofit candidate popped up on the local > craigslist: > > > I notice there's no tool release button marked on > the panel. I would really NOT want a manual drawbar on a CNC, > especially if the top of the head's 8 feet in the air. > Really late response here... but that looks like Erikson Quick Change 40 taper tooling. Manual change only, but everything happens at the bottom end of the spindle, not the top. Steve Stallings -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
On 26.06.13 00:44, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > On Tue, 6/25/13, Pete Matos wrote: > > > Then I used some rented machine mover skates to position it in its final > > place. > > Right now I have a 17x78" LeBlond Regal lathe on four Harbor Freight > car dollies. Moves pretty easily on a concrete floor. That's twice the between-centres length of my 3/4 tonne lathe, which was easy to deliver. A Manitou (telehandler) brought it down our single-lane street, and up the gravel drive (rising 10 metres in 50, with a 150° curve in the middle), then pulled up in front of the garage door and extended the boom to deposit the lathe half way to the back of the garage. The last six feet were accomplished with a crowbar with a 12mm thick x 75mm wide x 200mm slightly curved flat welded on the end. Its bevelled end¹ was pushed under the pallet, then levered up, moving the machine a third of a foot each time. It took about 5 minutes to place in exactly the right spot. The 800 kilo mill came on a small truck with boom, and rollers did make it much easier (but a bit scary) to move into place. (Had to raise the roller-door 50mm to avoid the need to pull the motor off the top.) Maybe I should move out to the farm before buying anything bigger. It's flat out there. Erik ¹ Damages the concrete less than a square edge. -- There are three principal ways to lose money: wine, women, and engineers. While the first two are more pleasant, the third is by far the more certain. - Baron Rothschild, ca. 1800 -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
On Tue, 6/25/13, Pete Matos wrote: > Then I used some rented machine mover skates to position it in its final > place. Right now I have a 17x78" LeBlond Regal lathe on four Harbor Freight car dollies. Moves pretty easily on a concrete floor. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
On Tue, 6/25/13, Karl Schmidt wrote: Once on the ground, realize the need for a door and ceiling that are wide and high enough. There is a trick of using lots of round hardwood dowels - and kicking them to steer. Safety is important in moving these beasts. Karl Schmidt Put the table all the way down to get the center of gravity as low as possible. Since it's a fixed head style you can't turn the head sideways or upside down to help with that like can be done with Bridgeports and similar turret mills. If you can rent a machinery moving trailer, that'll be the easiest way to load and unload. They're special trailers where the entire bed lowers to the ground, leaving the deck only a few inches above ground. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
Andy, Agreed, and the less height and the less you have to maneuver the beast the better off you are gonna be that much is clear. If you have a slab that is nice and level and smooth you can probably do that pretty easy. If he has the rollback move the machine to his shop and then gets it unloaded onto the floor they can push it in with that flat tow ram coming out the back. The one on the truck that moved my cincinatti arrow 500 was able to travel quite a distance. I had carefully lifted my machine before I moved it onto some long 4x4s and bolted them on thru the same large bolt holes that the leveling pods screw down under and made essentially some heavy duty skids. Once he set it down in the doorway to the shop he pushed it as far as he could and then retracted the ram and used another piece of 4x4 to push it the same ram distance into the shop. I only had to move it another five or six feet into position. Pete On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 9:58 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 26 June 2013 02:45, Pete Matos wrote: > > I moved a 4500 lb large lathe with myself and my wife > > and a come a long on some 1" diameter black iron pipe pretty easily. > > The last few machines that my Dad and I have moved we haven't even > bothered with rollers, just dragged them across the floor with a > chain-pull. Less chance of getting out of control that way, and they > do slide more easily than you might expect. > > -- > atp > If you can't fix it, you don't own it. > http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto > > > -- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
On 26 June 2013 02:45, Pete Matos wrote: > I moved a 4500 lb large lathe with myself and my wife > and a come a long on some 1" diameter black iron pipe pretty easily. The last few machines that my Dad and I have moved we haven't even bothered with rollers, just dragged them across the floor with a chain-pull. Less chance of getting out of control that way, and they do slide more easily than you might expect. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
Honestly if the machine is not too far away your best bet is to call your local rollback wrecker companies. They routinely make in town moves of large equipment that they can just drag up onto the flatbed and away you go. That is how I moved my Cincinatti Arrow 500 into my shop. Hell he could even jog the bed and use the flat tow ram to drag the machine off the bed in such a way that he could ALMOST put it exactly where I wanted it. We had an overhead issue that kept him from getting it fully inside the building but he tried and only charged me $150.00 to move it. Then I used some rented machine mover skates to position it in its final place. Some companies don't want to mess with mills and stuff but many do. Just tell them when and where and what exactly it is maybe even send them a picture of it and get the most accurate weight of the thing and they will let you know. It works great for them too because they can schedule it at their leisure unlike a car wreck which often has to be right now. As far as the dowels on the floor. I moved a 4500 lb large lathe with myself and my wife and a come a long on some 1" diameter black iron pipe pretty easily. Just be careful of any grades it can get away from you quick. The nice thing about the small diameter pipes is that IF it happens to roll off the pipe it usually is not high enough to cause a tip over just keep your digits out from underneath it at all times. The mills are quite tall and can be scary to move if you are not familiar with moving larger heavier items so be real careful. That is why I suggest the rollback guys, they move all sorts of stuff all the time and know what the hell they are doing. The guy who moved my VMC made it look pretty damn easy. It did take a larger truck tho due to the 7k+ weight. Good luck man. Peace Pete On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 9:23 PM, dave wrote: > On Tue, 2013-06-25 at 18:48 -0500, Karl Schmidt wrote: > > On 06/24/2013 10:18 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Besides my 3D printing endeavors, I am involved with trying to get a > > > hackerspace going here in Topeka. Recently a CNC mill that might make > > > a good LinuxCNC retrofit candidate popped up on the local craigslist: > > > > > > http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/3892182813.html > > > > hmmm it is worth $500 just if they load it for you! ... often you can > get the serial number and > > contact the company. They may know a lot about the particular machine. ( > Wells Index knew everything > > about the one I picked up). > > > > Key things would be the condition of the spindle bearings, was it used > to cut Au or steel? > Gee! I'd sure like to meet the guy rich enough to machine Au. ;-) > > > > Lubrication system? Is the company still in business? ( but often they > are in fine shape only the > > electronics died!). > > > > It appears that machines can be had for less than scrap price - they are > not fun to move. > Yep! Renting a 15,000 lb forklift is not cheap. I got by for $500 but > that was some years ago. I had a real deal for up to 8000 lb but the > price went up 10X to go to 15,000. > > > > Moving these beasts is best with a forklift - you will need to rent one > to take it off the truck. > > > > Once on the ground, realize the need for a door and ceiling that are > wide and high enough. There is > > a trick of using lots of round hardwood dowels - and kicking them to > steer. Safety is important in > > moving these beasts. > I bought a stick of 1.5" bar and cut into 30" sections for rollers. Put > a couple of 6x6 sq tubular under the machine and away we went. > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com > > Transtronics, Inc. WEB > http://secure.transtronics.com > > 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 > > Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 > > > > Truth is mighty and will prevail. > > There is nothing wrong with this, > > except that it ain't so. > > --Mark Twain > > > > > > > > > > -- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > > > Build for Windows Store. > > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > -- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lis
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
On Tue, 2013-06-25 at 18:48 -0500, Karl Schmidt wrote: > On 06/24/2013 10:18 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Besides my 3D printing endeavors, I am involved with trying to get a > > hackerspace going here in Topeka. Recently a CNC mill that might make > > a good LinuxCNC retrofit candidate popped up on the local craigslist: > > > > http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/3892182813.html > > hmmm it is worth $500 just if they load it for you! ... often you can get the > serial number and > contact the company. They may know a lot about the particular machine. ( > Wells Index knew everything > about the one I picked up). > > Key things would be the condition of the spindle bearings, was it used to cut > Au or steel? Gee! I'd sure like to meet the guy rich enough to machine Au. ;-) > Lubrication system? Is the company still in business? ( but often they are in > fine shape only the > electronics died!). > > It appears that machines can be had for less than scrap price - they are not > fun to move. Yep! Renting a 15,000 lb forklift is not cheap. I got by for $500 but that was some years ago. I had a real deal for up to 8000 lb but the price went up 10X to go to 15,000. > > Moving these beasts is best with a forklift - you will need to rent one to > take it off the truck. > > Once on the ground, realize the need for a door and ceiling that are wide and > high enough. There is > a trick of using lots of round hardwood dowels - and kicking them to steer. > Safety is important in > moving these beasts. I bought a stick of 1.5" bar and cut into 30" sections for rollers. Put a couple of 6x6 sq tubular under the machine and away we went. Dave > > > > > Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com > Transtronics, Inc. WEB > http://secure.transtronics.com > 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 > Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 > > Truth is mighty and will prevail. > There is nothing wrong with this, > except that it ain't so. > --Mark Twain > > > > -- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
On 06/24/2013 10:18 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Besides my 3D printing endeavors, I am involved with trying to get a > hackerspace going here in Topeka. Recently a CNC mill that might make > a good LinuxCNC retrofit candidate popped up on the local craigslist: > > http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/3892182813.html hmmm it is worth $500 just if they load it for you! ... often you can get the serial number and contact the company. They may know a lot about the particular machine. ( Wells Index knew everything about the one I picked up). Key things would be the condition of the spindle bearings, was it used to cut Au or steel? Lubrication system? Is the company still in business? ( but often they are in fine shape only the electronics died!). It appears that machines can be had for less than scrap price - they are not fun to move. Moving these beasts is best with a forklift - you will need to rent one to take it off the truck. Once on the ground, realize the need for a door and ceiling that are wide and high enough. There is a trick of using lots of round hardwood dowels - and kicking them to steer. Safety is important in moving these beasts. Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://secure.transtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Truth is mighty and will prevail. There is nothing wrong with this, except that it ain't so. --Mark Twain -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
Notice the comment "Starting bid is $500" CL usually popoos those. On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Besides my 3D printing endeavors, I am involved with trying to get a > > hackerspace going here in Topeka. Recently a CNC mill that might make > > a good LinuxCNC retrofit candidate popped up on the local craigslist: > > > > http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/3892182813.html > > > > Can anyone advise if this looks like it would be a good candidate for > > conversion to LinuxCNC, and what I should watch out for if I actually > > go to inspect and/or buy it? > > > Looks fairly good. Appears it may have SEM motors, which are quite good. > Appears to have 5" travel on the quill, which is a limitation, but same as > a Bridgeport. Lots of toolholders, which are more valuable than the > mill. If the ways and ballscrews are in good shape, grab it. It would be > good to see it under power, you can detect some problems by listening. > > Jon > > > -- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Besides my 3D printing endeavors, I am involved with trying to get a > hackerspace going here in Topeka. Recently a CNC mill that might make > a good LinuxCNC retrofit candidate popped up on the local craigslist: > > http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/3892182813.html > > Can anyone advise if this looks like it would be a good candidate for > conversion to LinuxCNC, and what I should watch out for if I actually > go to inspect and/or buy it? > Looks fairly good. Appears it may have SEM motors, which are quite good. Appears to have 5" travel on the quill, which is a limitation, but same as a Bridgeport. Lots of toolholders, which are more valuable than the mill. If the ways and ballscrews are in good shape, grab it. It would be good to see it under power, you can detect some problems by listening. Jon -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
Looks very much like the DahLih here. This should be a very nice candidate. The asking price does not even cover the tool holders. A simple simple retrofit. Get it and have fun. It will certainly have some provision for tool change other than a step ladder. I suspect the twist knob with the shiny area above it to the tool change switch. On Jun 25, 2013 6:46 AM, "Dave" wrote: > That is likely a good candidate for a conversion. > > I'd grab it now! Make an appt.. take some cash. > > That should fit onto a tandem axle car trailer as it is probably about > 5000 lbs. > > Scrap iron is going for a little over $200/ton in Indiana so $500 is > about scrap price. > > On those deals, if you snooze you lose. I recently missed two CNC > mills by a couple of hours. > > Make sure you can fit it someplace height wise. A wrecker with a > hydraulic boom can oftentimes unload a mill like that. > > Have a couple of straps handy. Harbor Freight sells 6000 lb rated straps. > > Some pipe rollers and wrecking/pinch bars can get it into your garage. > > Just a warning ... heavy iron is addictive.. :-) > > Dave Cole > > On 6/24/2013 11:18 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Besides my 3D printing endeavors, I am involved with trying to get a > > hackerspace going here in Topeka. Recently a CNC mill that might make > > a good LinuxCNC retrofit candidate popped up on the local craigslist: > > > > http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/3892182813.html > > > > Can anyone advise if this looks like it would be a good candidate for > > conversion to LinuxCNC, and what I should watch out for if I actually > > go to inspect and/or buy it? > > > > Thanks! > > > > - -- > > Charles Steinkuehler > > char...@steinkuehler.net > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAlHJC+4ACgkQLywbqEHdNFxArACdFyP5QBDVG4LhRLLOg2uQ4AGa > > hP4AniPArIxoWSKaRdb4hGyif/pFHcO5 > > =r2eg > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > > -- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > > > Build for Windows Store. > > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > > > -- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
That is likely a good candidate for a conversion. I'd grab it now! Make an appt.. take some cash. That should fit onto a tandem axle car trailer as it is probably about 5000 lbs. Scrap iron is going for a little over $200/ton in Indiana so $500 is about scrap price. On those deals, if you snooze you lose. I recently missed two CNC mills by a couple of hours. Make sure you can fit it someplace height wise. A wrecker with a hydraulic boom can oftentimes unload a mill like that. Have a couple of straps handy. Harbor Freight sells 6000 lb rated straps. Some pipe rollers and wrecking/pinch bars can get it into your garage. Just a warning ... heavy iron is addictive.. :-) Dave Cole On 6/24/2013 11:18 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Besides my 3D printing endeavors, I am involved with trying to get a > hackerspace going here in Topeka. Recently a CNC mill that might make > a good LinuxCNC retrofit candidate popped up on the local craigslist: > > http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/3892182813.html > > Can anyone advise if this looks like it would be a good candidate for > conversion to LinuxCNC, and what I should watch out for if I actually > go to inspect and/or buy it? > > Thanks! > > - -- > Charles Steinkuehler > char...@steinkuehler.net > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAlHJC+4ACgkQLywbqEHdNFxArACdFyP5QBDVG4LhRLLOg2uQ4AGa > hP4AniPArIxoWSKaRdb4hGyif/pFHcO5 > =r2eg > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: > > Build for Windows Store. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:18 AM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Besides my 3D printing endeavors, I am involved with trying to get a > hackerspace going here in Topeka. Recently a CNC mill that might make > a good LinuxCNC retrofit candidate popped up on the local craigslist: > > http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/3892182813.html > I look at that as some castings with some free stuff added if any of the free stuff works, bonus the box of tooling is even better while not fitted with a tool changer so you will have to baby sit it but you could make a toolchange for it If I had the money and was close by I would consider it. Dave Carline -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
On Mon, 6/24/13, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/3892182813.html Can anyone advise if this looks like it would be a good candidate for conversion to LinuxCNC, and what I should watch out for if I actually go to inspect and/or buy it? Thanks! Machines that're already CNC ought to be easier to retrofit than manual machines, even if you take off all the original controls and motors. No motor mounts to build, no redundant parts to remove or modify. You have that giant box stuffed with old equipment, which the new electronics will use a fraction of. If the existing system works, you can peddle it on eBay - but don't get crazy on the prices. There aren't that many super desperate shops willing to pay *any price* for an old board to get a mission critical 25+ year old machine back in action. (However, I did get a good price out of a pair of 15+ year old compumotor 500 boxes. I didn't start them as a stupid high price.) If you can snag that for $500 - think of it as getting a huge head start and saving a lot of cash. It's a large machine and will take up quite a chunk of space, but I bet it'll be a while before you want to do a project that'll have you wishing it was just a bit bigger. ;-) People who don't know about software like LinuxCNC or don't have the skill or willingness to apply themselves to a retrofit or who just want to (and have the money to) buy a "plug and play" machine just see old CNC machines as old junk. Then there's those "affordable" retrofit systems that start at only $7,000 - why spend $7K on an old machine when that will go much of the way toward an all new one? A machine shop or manufacturing plant needs a machine in production ASAP and many are willing to go into a bit of debt rather than refurbish and upgrade - and owe nothing on it. I've had people tell me it'd take $10,000 to fix up a mid 80's CNC Bridgeport clone and all I'd have is a crappy old junk mill. They don't know scrounge-fu or the power of eBay and Craisgslist or just spending a bunch of time scouring the web until the right parts are found at the right prices. ;-) "You pay fright and installation, we will load on truck." Yeah, fright is right when it comes to what trucking companies want to charge for shipping machine tools! -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:18:06PM -0500, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Besides my 3D printing endeavors, I am involved with trying to get a > hackerspace going here in Topeka. Recently a CNC mill that might make > a good LinuxCNC retrofit candidate popped up on the local craigslist: > > http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/3892182813.html > > Can anyone advise if this looks like it would be a good candidate for > conversion to LinuxCNC, and what I should watch out for if I actually > go to inspect and/or buy it? > > Thanks! If you can find wiring diagrams you can determine a lot about whether it's a good candidate for conversion. A 1991 machine will probably have velocity mode amps with tachs, and LED-based encoders. So no real problem there. I'm guessing it's 40 taper - I would rather have a CAT spindle with retention knobs but those NST (NMTB?) aren't rare or anything. Mostly, good candidate means its drives and motors and encoders all work, and it's not mechanically worn out. If you take your indicators with you and it's under power and operable you'll know all that in short order. If it's not under power and you can't convince them to plug it in (I bet you $1 that's what you'll encounter here) you can tell a BIT about wear by pushing and pulling the table (compare readings in the center of travel to readings at the ends of travel) and by turning screws by hand (you'll feel and see any backlash). Something about the machine looks familiar. I think it might be the same base model as Stuart's Dah-Lih. If so, there are power drawbar parts missing. I notice there's no tool release button marked on the panel. I would really NOT want a manual drawbar on a CNC, especially if the top of the head's 8 feet in the air. (If your hackspace has 8 foot ceilings, take a tape measure with you!) This machine has a heavy knee and I notice there's no motor on it. That may or may not be a big pain depending on your work and tooling. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate Advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Besides my 3D printing endeavors, I am involved with trying to get a hackerspace going here in Topeka. Recently a CNC mill that might make a good LinuxCNC retrofit candidate popped up on the local craigslist: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/tls/3892182813.html Can anyone advise if this looks like it would be a good candidate for conversion to LinuxCNC, and what I should watch out for if I actually go to inspect and/or buy it? Thanks! - -- Charles Steinkuehler char...@steinkuehler.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHJC+4ACgkQLywbqEHdNFxArACdFyP5QBDVG4LhRLLOg2uQ4AGa hP4AniPArIxoWSKaRdb4hGyif/pFHcO5 =r2eg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
