Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration - new twist
Thanks for the sound advice - I did inspect mountings and they did appear to be sound . I took vehvicle to a retired Mercedes Benz Mechanic and he said that I should have the vibration damper on the propshaft ( which I don't have ) The twist comes in that the EPC does not list a vibration for my vehicle 124.130. Furthur the mechanic should me a Mercedes publication printed dec 1984 where is states that the 124.130 manual transmission definetly must have the damper ( the auto does not ) My vehicle is a manual and has been so since birth so I'm very puzzled. Can anyone confirm that the 124.130 ( manual tranny ) 300D has a vibration damper ( behind front flex disc ) on the drive shaft? Peter -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 September 2007 01:49 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration Check the engine mounts -- on that car they are fluid filled, and when they inevitably leak out, it vibrates badly. Will cluck and hammer on shutoff, too. If it is a drumming vibration, on acceleration only, likely the transmission mount is bad and is allowing the engine to pound on the crossmember. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Green Power Steering Fluid??
Naw, I fell for that in college. Seriously though, that was something that crossed my mind - contamination. Hmm. Just another piece of the puzzle with this car. Like how can the thing look so well-preserved and run so well with 268k mi. on it? The seller says he was told the engine and tranny were rebuilt, but he did not want to make that claim since he could not confirm it. He also claimed he had a great "German guy" mechanic. Perhaps how the green hydraulic fluid got in there? Brian Craig wrote: Is it watery or oily? Stick you finger in it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 - oil drain from air filter to sump....
Chris - There is a O-ring on both the bottom where it slips onto the upper crankcase, and an O-ring on the stub under the air cleaner housing at the top end of the drain tube. My '81 also has a clamp kinda behind the manifolds against the block. Are you air cleaner housing mounts in good shape? Barry > is rattling very badly on the SD. It's connected at both ends, > but it is not a firm connection. Are there supposed to be o-rings > that seal the connection? Is there a bracket that is supposed to > hold the pipe in place? > > Thanks, > > Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Lock vacuum switch
> My RF door (91 300D 2.5T) used to open/lock all doors when the key > was > turned - now it just locks/unlocks the RF door - would that be the > vacuum > element most likely? I guess a hose may have fallen off too - but > that's > unlikely IMO. There's a vacuum element with a switch in it. But what I've found in the 86's we have is that the pump, which contains a voting circuit, seems to forget what to do with one or more locks on rare occasions. I pull the fuse for a few seconds, or unplug the pump itself if it's easily reachable, and then it's back to normal. Perhaps yours does this too. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Golden Star boneyard?
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:50:40 -0400 "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Listers, > > I may have discovered the Kaleb of the East. > > http://providence.craigslist.org/car/415349438.html > > I was asking about 123 parts-he may have what I need-didn't have too > many body parts-tin worm land. I'm looking for dark blue interior parts for a W123. Does he have any of those? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Green Power Steering Fluid??
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:20:19 -0700 "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What? I just opened my power steering tank (87 190D) and found that > the fluid is green. I've never heard of such a color for PS fluid. > > Tell me someone did not screw up as bad as to put antifreeze in there!! Is it watery or oily? Stick you finger in it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i really don't get how brick and mortar shops can survive today
Do you have a local "real" lumber yard? I've always bought from local yards for anything more than a few pieces, and found them to be competitive with Lowes/Home Depot and also much more helpful. And certainly a $500 order would be large enough to get their attention. "Trampas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You are not kidding, I went to Lowes home improvement Saturday to > purchase $500 worth of lumber. After 30 minutes waiting for someone > to grab fork lift and pull the wood I gave up. I made them give me a > refund for the wood, the manager was pissed as all the guys were in > break room. Seems that someone forgot to tell them they had an > order. > > I would so much like to have a method to purchase building supplies > online. I know for large jobs I can go with real lumber yards but > for small jobs it is hard to get the wood. Note to mention the fast > growth lumber they call wood these days, heck I return 10-20% of the > wood I purchase as it is warped or split so bad it can not be used. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] high altitude driving problem - CONTINUED
I'm sure it's not timing chain issues, since you replaced that a year or two ago. On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:33:23 -0500, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bypass the overboost valve. If you have regular power, it's bad. If the > power is still weak, make sure the valves are set correctly, change your fuel > filters, then adjust the ALDA. > > Luther > > On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:10:35 -0500, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> OK, I replaced the vacuum line from the back of the intake manifold to the >> switch over valve. The old line was not clogged at all (but I have a nice >> new one now) and the problem of slow acceleration persists at low altitudes. >> No way to test the high altitude issues as I am no longer in Colorado. >> Ånyway, it is as if nothing changed. Could the switchover valve be >> clogged/stuck/broken? The line from the switchover to the ALDA is not >> clogged. >> >> I hesitate to even suggest - could the ALDA be out of adjustment? >> >> Thanks for your thoughts, >> >> Chris >> >> >> >> >> Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri >> "Anke" - German Shepherd who loves Kongs! >> "Sammy" - German Shepherd who loves to fetch logs! >> "Nanook" - Siberian Husky who loves air conditioning! >> -- >> -1985 300SD, 227K miles, "Wulf" >> -1982 300Dt, 118K miles, "little blue klatter box" >> > > > -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] high altitude driving problem - CONTINUED
Bypass the overboost valve. If you have regular power, it's bad. If the power is still weak, make sure the valves are set correctly, change your fuel filters, then adjust the ALDA. Luther On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:10:35 -0500, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, I replaced the vacuum line from the back of the intake manifold to the > switch over valve. The old line was not clogged at all (but I have a nice new > one now) and the problem of slow acceleration persists at low altitudes. No > way to test the high altitude issues as I am no longer in Colorado. Ånyway, > it is as if nothing changed. Could the switchover valve be > clogged/stuck/broken? The line from the switchover to the ALDA is not clogged. > > I hesitate to even suggest - could the ALDA be out of adjustment? > > Thanks for your thoughts, > > Chris > > > > > Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri > "Anke" - German Shepherd who loves Kongs! > "Sammy" - German Shepherd who loves to fetch logs! > "Nanook" - Siberian Husky who loves air conditioning! > -- > -1985 300SD, 227K miles, "Wulf" > -1982 300Dt, 118K miles, "little blue klatter box" > -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i really don't get how brick and mortar shops can survive today
You are not kidding, I went to Lowes home improvement Saturday to purchase $500 worth of lumber. After 30 minutes waiting for someone to grab fork lift and pull the wood I gave up. I made them give me a refund for the wood, the manager was pissed as all the guys were in break room. Seems that someone forgot to tell them they had an order. I would so much like to have a method to purchase building supplies online. I know for large jobs I can go with real lumber yards but for small jobs it is hard to get the wood. Note to mention the fast growth lumber they call wood these days, heck I return 10-20% of the wood I purchase as it is warped or split so bad it can not be used. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert & Tara Ludwick Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 11:59 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] i really don't get how brick and mortar shops can survive today We buy just about everything but fuel and groceries online, It saves a minor fortune. Building material have remained the last bastion of protected territorial marketing , but it looks like that's finally cutting loose as well. It's about time. I have no sympathy for the local business owners crying about how they're loosing business to the internet. If ( at least around here ) they weren't trying to retire off of each sale, and being jerks about it to boot, they wouldn't be loosing business. I can't wait until some enterprising lumber wholesaler goes internet and starts offering direct ship lumber without the extra 2-3 middle men. --Robert Peter T. Arnold wrote: > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 22:07:19 -0400, you wrote: > > >> i've been stopping at every hardware/home/discounter store i pass for the >> last week looking for burgundy rustoleum. my leg kills me every time i get >> back in the car. it's 90 degrees outside. no one seems to have it. >> >> i look online . my order is placed in 5 minutes. they are paying the >> freight. i'll have it within a week. >> >> how can your local hardware store compete with this? >> ___ >> > Last year we remolded the Home interior. Took the kitchen out to the > studs! Spent the value of a Buick. > New high end cabinets from Home Depot, best to pay them to worry about > layout > > $5,000 of appliances and stuff bought online, savings after shipping > was about 25% > "Pergo" style flooring for living room bought online, savings was > about 50% > > My wife is a shopaholic, she like to get the last dime off the table. > > Buying on line has been very good for us! > > -- > > Regards, > > Peter T. Arnold > > 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! > 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson > 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi > 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen > Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration
My 300SD vibrates cold real bad, the vibration diminished when warmed up. It gets real noticeable below 1200 Rpm or so. At first I thought is was an abrupt new behavior but I now believe it has been doing it for a while. At first it was not real noticeable and some time last week it got a whole lot worse. It also seems to turn off harshly. It started about the time I changed the filters, the primer pump and gave the engine a 'good washing' to get the crud off to work on it. Last Saturday I adjusted the valves it was about due ... It starts OK and does not smoke (well not any unusual smoke). A while back when it needed glow plugs it started hard, idled real 'ruff' and would smoke. It runs good at 3K or so on the interstate. So does it have the same kind of motor mounts like in the "OM603 Engine Vibration" thread or do I need to look else where? George Larribeau Dallas Texas 1985 300SD 206K 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent &2 I 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Lock vacuum switch
Check to see if the vac pump under the rear seat is running, or has a hose off. Only one line --vac locks, pressure unlocks. If you hear the pump running fairly loudly, broken line. If the driver's door still works the locks, check the linkage on the RF door, it may have fallen off and is no longer activating the pump or alarm. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Door Lock vacuum switch
Howdy - My RF door (91 300D 2.5T) used to open/lock all doors when the key was turned - now it just locks/unlocks the RF door - would that be the vacuum element most likely? I guess a hose may have fallen off too - but that's unlikely IMO. Comments? Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's not PayPal's fault
Understood. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Brown Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:56 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] It's not PayPal's fault Tom, How exactly can I explain this to you? Without being able to use Paypal, I might as well not have access to Ebay and their on-line procedures put me in an endless loop in which I cannot access anything to change what's needed and they will not respond. Understood? Thanx. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay
Too true, there will always be people who are not happy. Like they expected to receive the item the next day or expect a S/H item to be in new condition. LWB250 wrote: > Feedback is a tool like anything else, and has to be > evaluated in the grand scheme of things. I've bought > from people who had some negative feedback, but I also > take that into consideration with what they are > selling and to whom. > > Not to mention, if they have a 15,000 feedback rating > and have a handful of negatives each month, I consider > that a part of doing business - you're never going to > have 100% satisfaction when dealing with large > numbers. The type of feedback is important, however, > so I always go and read what people say in their > negative feedback... > > I also use a credit card and bank account with PayPal. > If I have the slightest concern about what I'm > buying, or who I'm buying it for, I'll use the credit > card. I have found that PayPal can be somewhat > putative when placing holds on funds. > > Dan > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Must be new car season...
The Nissan V6 engine was V6 of the year for several years in the 90's. Very powerful and not that thirsty. I had a Missinbitzi V6 for a couple of months but it was too fast for me and I would have racked up speeding fines if I had not sold it to my Uncle. It was a bargain too, 3k for a 96 with 170k k's on the clock. The paint was dodgy but I put about 500 bucks into a few minor problems and it came up good. Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On 9/9/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> maxima come with a stick? >> >> >> > > I don't know about the current ones, but they used to. Had a friend > in college who had one of the early '90s ones with the silly "Four > Door Sports Car" decals on the windows. IIRC the '92-'94 Special > Edition model had the 190-hp V6 from the 300ZX, limited slip, sport > suspension, leather, and 5-speed all standard. Nice car. One of the > few Japanese V-layout engines with timing chains instead of belts, > too. > > Alex Chamberlain > '87 300D Turbo et al. > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud
Too much work, just turn the radio up. Seriously trying to compensate for collapsed engine mounts by moving the shroud is not a good idea. Collapsed engine mounts put the whole drive train out of alignment and will lead to more problem$. Luther wrote: > Take a flat blade screwdriver and pry the fan shroud clips up. Move the fan > shroud to a new position where it's not rubbing. Tap the clips back into > place. Problem solved. > > Luther > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud
> Speaking of noises, I had a used axle installed in my 1983 300TD and > now I > notice a whine from the rear that gets louder as I exceed 60+ mph. > Could Differential. Pinion preload, etc. They all whine a little bit, but the rubber mount should isolate it. If your diff mount has collapsed you could be now hearing what was always there. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud
> I've looked at the fan and the shroud. I don't see any evidence of > scraping. I would think I would see markings. Not necessarily. I had it for sure when I retrofitted a 116 viscous fan into a 115, and it took a few days to get the shroud position dialed in exactly. (116 fan is larger.) The marks weren't very noticeable. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud
> Is the diff fluid an indicator of wear in the diff like bad > transmission > fluid is an indicator of a transmision problem? I just changed the > diff > fluid and it looked and smelled "normal" - not burned or acrid. Not really, by the time the fluid gets noticeably bad you've had to have been wearing earmuffs to block out the noise! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Golden Star boneyard?
Mitch, Well give him a call-I will know more after fellow lister John Peterson and I visit-we might even be able to work out some shipping arrangement. He said he had two leather tobacco seats-I think they might have been 123. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Golden Star boneyard? "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" wrote: > > Listers, > > I may have discovered the Kaleb of the East. Thanks Dwight. RI is a bit far away, but I could combine it with a visit to my niece's house. I'd love to have a blue or tobacco leather 116 interior, and maybe some 6.9 suspension bits and differential. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ebay - Too many catch-22s
Gerry, Viola, someone actually understands/has been there. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Golden Star boneyard?
"Dwight E. Giles, Jr" wrote: > > Listers, > > I may have discovered the Kaleb of the East. Thanks Dwight. RI is a bit far away, but I could combine it with a visit to my niece's house. I'd love to have a blue or tobacco leather 116 interior, and maybe some 6.9 suspension bits and differential. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How to hold viscous couple W124
A large strap wrench or even an old belt works. Don't waste your money on anything else. -- SANTÉ Doug Quance Consciousness: That annoying time between naps. 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] high altitude driving problem - CONTINUED
OK, I replaced the vacuum line from the back of the intake manifold to the switch over valve. The old line was not clogged at all (but I have a nice new one now) and the problem of slow acceleration persists at low altitudes. No way to test the high altitude issues as I am no longer in Colorado. Ånyway, it is as if nothing changed. Could the switchover valve be clogged/stuck/broken? The line from the switchover to the ALDA is not clogged. I hesitate to even suggest - could the ALDA be out of adjustment? Thanks for your thoughts, Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri "Anke" - German Shepherd who loves Kongs! "Sammy" - German Shepherd who loves to fetch logs! "Nanook" - Siberian Husky who loves air conditioning! -- -1985 300SD, 227K miles, "Wulf" -1982 300Dt, 118K miles, "little blue klatter box" - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OM617 - oil drain from air filter to sump....
is rattling very badly on the SD. It's connected at both ends, but it is not a firm connection. Are there supposed to be o-rings that seal the connection? Is there a bracket that is supposed to hold the pipe in place? Thanks, Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri "Anke" - German Shepherd who loves Kongs! "Sammy" - German Shepherd who loves to fetch logs! "Nanook" - Siberian Husky who loves air conditioning! -- -1985 300SD, 227K miles, "Wulf" -1982 300Dt, 118K miles, "little blue klatter box" - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration
Check the engine mounts -- on that car they are fluid filled, and when they inevitably leak out, it vibrates badly. Will cluck and hammer on shutoff, too. If it is a drumming vibration, on acceleration only, likely the transmission mount is bad and is allowing the engine to pound on the crossmember. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Green Power Steering Fluid??
Someone may have put the green Pentosin steering fluid in. It's just a green hydraulic fluid, so I imaging it would be fine. It's the spec for some Audis and other cars. I don't think it mixes well with the red stuff, so I wouldn't put tranny fluid in there. -Robert Zoltan Finks wrote: > What? I just opened my power steering tank (87 190D) and found that > the fluid is green. I've never heard of such a color for PS fluid. > > Tell me someone did not screw up as bad as to put antifreeze in there!! > > Brian > 87 190D > 83 240D > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Green Power Steering Fluid??
I have never seen or heard of that before Zoltan Finks wrote: > What? I just opened my power steering tank (87 190D) and found that > the fluid is green. I've never heard of such a color for PS fluid. > > Tell me someone did not screw up as bad as to put antifreeze in there!! > > Brian > 87 190D > 83 240D > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Green Power Steering Fluid??
What? I just opened my power steering tank (87 190D) and found that the fluid is green. I've never heard of such a color for PS fluid. Tell me someone did not screw up as bad as to put antifreeze in there!! Brian 87 190D 83 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Re : Mystery Noise Time - Embarrassingly Loud
I'll check that - thanks. Brian On 9/10/07, Howard Fulford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Empty power steering fluid reservoir ? > > Had it happen to me, gets quite loud > > > Howard Fulford > Bath > England > > 190E '89, 2.0 litre, 5 sp. manual > 163786 miles > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud
Ah yes, I forgot that at the last minute I was able to determine that it was not related to vehicle motion, though it certainly seemed to be at first. Hm. Brian > > Wheel (or driveshaft or axle) bearings or the parking brake make noise > correlated with car ground speed - NOT engine speed. > > Could be belt idler bearing or any device driven by the belt. Does the > fan blade move more than 10 mm front to back? That's about the limit > before service is required. > > Marshall > -- > Marshall Booth Ph.D. > Ass't Prof. (ret.) > Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud
might be a bad mount also --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud > Is the diff fluid an indicator of wear in the diff like bad transmission > fluid is an indicator of a transmision problem? I just changed the diff > fluid and it looked and smelled "normal" - not burned or acrid. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud
Zoltan Finks wrote: > I've looked at the fan and the shroud. I don't see any evidence of > scraping. I would think I would see markings. > > My other thoughts on this mystery noise are: > > Wheel bearings > > Our belt seems looser than it might should be. Wonder if that could be > the noise? I have not owned a car with a serpentine before. > > Something related to our use of the parking brake (which we don't use > all that often, but did yesterday) Wheel (or driveshaft or axle) bearings or the parking brake make noise correlated with car ground speed - NOT engine speed. Could be belt idler bearing or any device driven by the belt. Does the fan blade move more than 10 mm front to back? That's about the limit before service is required. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Re : Mystery Noise Time - Embarrassingly Loud
Empty power steering fluid reservoir ? Had it happen to me, gets quite loud Howard Fulford Bath England 190E '89, 2.0 litre, 5 sp. manual 163786 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud
It seems than at Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:53:02 -0400, andrew wrote: > Is the diff fluid an indicator of wear in the diff like bad transmission > fluid is an indicator of a transmision problem? I just changed the diff > fluid and it looked and smelled "normal" - not burned or acrid. Not really. An automatic transmission has friction parts that wear, heat up, etc. This is what causes the fluid to smell and look funny. A open differential just has gears. So with respect to fluid inspection, it's much like a manual transmission. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay
Google will Discover the details - so to speak... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3078504/ Partial text below. I recommend avoiding Discover when paying for PayPal charges. -Dave Walton The card you pick matters But many consumers, like Bowman, don't know that the card you use to fund your PayPal account helps to determine your ability to recover money lost to a con artist. Visa and Mastercard transactions can be disputed when PayPal customers suffer fraud. But similar Discover and American Express transactions can't be disputed. The distinction doesn't appear on PayPal's Web site. The difference is due to the merchant agreements signed by PayPal with the various credit card networks. Visa and Mastercard require PayPal to accept responsibility as the "merchant of record" in its transactions. That means PayPal is liable to foot the bill when a customer does not receive the merchandise and disputes the transaction, according to Janet Yang, spokesperson for Visa USA Inc. But Discover treats PayPal transactions differently. Discover Financial Services Inc. spokesperson Cathy Edwards said PayPal is just a middleman, which has effectively performed the service asked of it: It has moved the money. What happens after that is a dispute between buyer and seller. On 9/10/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I never heard of that. > > On 9/10/07, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Not sure about the current status, but PayPal used to have a special > > agreement with Discover that prevented cardholders from contesting > > charges. The only way to guarantee a successful chargeback was to > > claim the charge was made without your knowledge or consent. That's > > not something you want to get in the habit of doing, but if faced with > > a large loss, it might save your butt. > > > > -Dave Walton > > > > On 9/10/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Use Paypal but provide funds from your CREDIT CARD, not bank > > account. If > > > there is a problem with non-delivered or misrepresented/shoddy > > > merchandise simply file a dispute with your credit card issuer and > > withhold > > > payment. Works like a charm. > > > > > > On 9/10/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Ebay, or more correctly, the eBay reseller community is far from > > > > sleaze-ball > > > > proof. But there are a lot of dishonest sellers everywhere - when's > > the > > > > last > > > > time you walked onto a new or used car lot & left with a comfortable > > "I > > > > like > > > > this sales guy" feeling? As I stated before, eBay is just an auction > > > > house, > > > > nothing more & nothing less. You have an issue with an eBay seller, > > not > > > > eBay. > > > > > > > > And as far as using their system to report fraud or a dishonest seller > > or > > > > a > > > > mis-represented product is concerned? I've used their on-line > > reporting > > > > tools more than just several times. In every case, they have responded > > to > > > > me. I've not always liked their response, sometime they go in the > > sellers > > > > favor, but they have always responded. But that's a result of > > arbitration. > > > > > > > > PayPal is your best recourse because a dispute immediately locks up > > the > > > > sellers funds & grabs the seller's attention. It's not PayPal's fault > > that > > > > you moved & changed your email address at the same time. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tom Hargrave > > > > www.kegkits.com > > > > 256-656-1924 > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On Behalf Of Glenn Brown > > > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 9:18 AM > > > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > > Subject: [MBZ] Ebay > > > > > > > > Tom, > > > > 1. If Ebay is so sleaze-ball proof, why hadn't they even responded to > > my > > > > report when I got taken via a falsely advertised product? > > > > 2. I'm essentially dead in the water in regards to Paypal, as changing > > > > both > > > > geographic and Email addresses they put me in an endless loop and I > > can't > > > > get access to change things there and no one will respond with a phone > > > > number of a real human to get this accomplished. > > > > > > > > I'm currently treating Ebay like the Sunday comics . . . for > > entertainment > > > > only. > > > > > > > > G. M. Brown > > > > Brevard, NC > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe
Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud
Is the diff fluid an indicator of wear in the diff like bad transmission fluid is an indicator of a transmision problem? I just changed the diff fluid and it looked and smelled "normal" - not burned or acrid. On 9/10/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > more than likely the diff > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730 FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 2:54 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud > > > > Speaking of noises, I had a used axle installed in my 1983 300TD and now > I > > notice a whine from the rear that gets louder as I exceed 60+ > mph. Could > > the "new" axle be causing the noise? I had a different noise from the > > rear before replacing the old axle, which had a torn boot and was dry. > > What > > else could be whining back there? > > > > On 9/10/07, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Luther wrote: > >> > Take a flat blade screwdriver and pry the fan shroud clips up. Move > >> > the > >> fan shroud to a new position where it's not rubbing. Tap the clips > back > >> into place. Problem solved. > >> > >> That solves NOTHING except the noise if the cause is the collapse of > one > >> or more engine mounts. When they get bad enough, a sudden stop can > shove > >> the engine right through the radiator (making a mess of the fan, fan > >> clutch, belt tensioner and sometime even the timing cover as well as > the > >> radiator). > >> > >> Marshall > >> -- > >> Marshall Booth Ph.D. > >> Ass't Prof. (ret.) > >> Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Golden Star boneyard?
Listers, I may have discovered the Kaleb of the East. http://providence.craigslist.org/car/415349438.html Saw this ad on RI CL over the weekend for Mercedes Used Parts-70's -late 80's. Called the guy listed in the ad. He doesn't do computers so someone else must have listed for him. Anyway, fascinating story. He said he has $4 mil dollars worth of used cars and parts. He has sold the land and has to get rid of inventory in the next two months or so. I was asking about 123 parts-he may have what I need-didn't have too many body parts-tin worm land. Is name is Russ Webber and he is MB diesel fanatic and I had a great long conversation with him. Seems like he ahs a lot of 115/116 p[arts. He has both gas and diesel, including an 87 300D t for sale. Didn't ask about prices. Don't know if he ships or not. I will try to get up and check it out in a week or two-he is in S. MA-near the outlet mall-Wrentham Village Outlets right off I 495. http://www.premiumoutlets.com/outlets/outlet.asp?id=10 Anyway, no interest, etc etc usual disclaimer. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4-speed, 212K miles, (Arriving early Oct.) 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers
For awhile I had a small side business selling tillotson snowmobile carb rebuild kits on eBay. At the time I was getting them from a local dealer (with HIS markup) for $20 and selling them on eBay for $30 plus $10 to ship (actual UPS shipping was usually $5). Finally either too many people realized you could run this game or people got wise... I probably made $400 though... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:20:35 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Second chance offers are nothing more than eBay's effort to get more fees from sellers. Before their second chance offers, a lot of people (myself included) would contact the highest bidders if an auction didn't meet reserve to see if the bidders were interested. Of course, this is outside of the eBay universe, meaning they lost out on the fees. What continues to amaze me is how some things can be sold on eBay for such outrageous prices when they are available elsewhere for less. Case in point: The plastic "chrome" cover for the electric fuel pump on my Yamaha Virago (which fits all Viragos) is about $46 from retail parts places. This is the OEM part. In the last 60 days I have seen two of these, both used, go for over $100. WTF? Are people that stupid that they can use the Internet to trade on eBay but they can't find a part for their motorcycle? Amazing. Dan - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay
I never heard of that. On 9/10/07, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not sure about the current status, but PayPal used to have a special > agreement with Discover that prevented cardholders from contesting > charges. The only way to guarantee a successful chargeback was to > claim the charge was made without your knowledge or consent. That's > not something you want to get in the habit of doing, but if faced with > a large loss, it might save your butt. > > -Dave Walton > > On 9/10/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Use Paypal but provide funds from your CREDIT CARD, not bank > account. If > > there is a problem with non-delivered or misrepresented/shoddy > > merchandise simply file a dispute with your credit card issuer and > withhold > > payment. Works like a charm. > > > > On 9/10/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Ebay, or more correctly, the eBay reseller community is far from > > > sleaze-ball > > > proof. But there are a lot of dishonest sellers everywhere - when's > the > > > last > > > time you walked onto a new or used car lot & left with a comfortable > "I > > > like > > > this sales guy" feeling? As I stated before, eBay is just an auction > > > house, > > > nothing more & nothing less. You have an issue with an eBay seller, > not > > > eBay. > > > > > > And as far as using their system to report fraud or a dishonest seller > or > > > a > > > mis-represented product is concerned? I've used their on-line > reporting > > > tools more than just several times. In every case, they have responded > to > > > me. I've not always liked their response, sometime they go in the > sellers > > > favor, but they have always responded. But that's a result of > arbitration. > > > > > > PayPal is your best recourse because a dispute immediately locks up > the > > > sellers funds & grabs the seller's attention. It's not PayPal's fault > that > > > you moved & changed your email address at the same time. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Tom Hargrave > > > www.kegkits.com > > > 256-656-1924 > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Behalf Of Glenn Brown > > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 9:18 AM > > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > Subject: [MBZ] Ebay > > > > > > Tom, > > > 1. If Ebay is so sleaze-ball proof, why hadn't they even responded to > my > > > report when I got taken via a falsely advertised product? > > > 2. I'm essentially dead in the water in regards to Paypal, as changing > > > both > > > geographic and Email addresses they put me in an endless loop and I > can't > > > get access to change things there and no one will respond with a phone > > > number of a real human to get this accomplished. > > > > > > I'm currently treating Ebay like the Sunday comics . . . for > entertainment > > > only. > > > > > > G. M. Brown > > > Brevard, NC > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay
Not sure about the current status, but PayPal used to have a special agreement with Discover that prevented cardholders from contesting charges. The only way to guarantee a successful chargeback was to claim the charge was made without your knowledge or consent. That's not something you want to get in the habit of doing, but if faced with a large loss, it might save your butt. -Dave Walton On 9/10/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Use Paypal but provide funds from your CREDIT CARD, not bank account. If > there is a problem with non-delivered or misrepresented/shoddy > merchandise simply file a dispute with your credit card issuer and withhold > payment. Works like a charm. > > On 9/10/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ebay, or more correctly, the eBay reseller community is far from > > sleaze-ball > > proof. But there are a lot of dishonest sellers everywhere - when's the > > last > > time you walked onto a new or used car lot & left with a comfortable "I > > like > > this sales guy" feeling? As I stated before, eBay is just an auction > > house, > > nothing more & nothing less. You have an issue with an eBay seller, not > > eBay. > > > > And as far as using their system to report fraud or a dishonest seller or > > a > > mis-represented product is concerned? I've used their on-line reporting > > tools more than just several times. In every case, they have responded to > > me. I've not always liked their response, sometime they go in the sellers > > favor, but they have always responded. But that's a result of arbitration. > > > > PayPal is your best recourse because a dispute immediately locks up the > > sellers funds & grabs the seller's attention. It's not PayPal's fault that > > you moved & changed your email address at the same time. > > > > Thanks, > > Tom Hargrave > > www.kegkits.com > > 256-656-1924 > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Glenn Brown > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 9:18 AM > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Subject: [MBZ] Ebay > > > > Tom, > > 1. If Ebay is so sleaze-ball proof, why hadn't they even responded to my > > report when I got taken via a falsely advertised product? > > 2. I'm essentially dead in the water in regards to Paypal, as changing > > both > > geographic and Email addresses they put me in an endless loop and I can't > > get access to change things there and no one will respond with a phone > > number of a real human to get this accomplished. > > > > I'm currently treating Ebay like the Sunday comics . . . for entertainment > > only. > > > > G. M. Brown > > Brevard, NC > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud
more than likely the diff --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud > Speaking of noises, I had a used axle installed in my 1983 300TD and now I > notice a whine from the rear that gets louder as I exceed 60+ mph. Could > the "new" axle be causing the noise? I had a different noise from the > rear before replacing the old axle, which had a torn boot and was dry. > What > else could be whining back there? > > On 9/10/07, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Luther wrote: >> > Take a flat blade screwdriver and pry the fan shroud clips up. Move >> > the >> fan shroud to a new position where it's not rubbing. Tap the clips back >> into place. Problem solved. >> >> That solves NOTHING except the noise if the cause is the collapse of one >> or more engine mounts. When they get bad enough, a sudden stop can shove >> the engine right through the radiator (making a mess of the fan, fan >> clutch, belt tensioner and sometime even the timing cover as well as the >> radiator). >> >> Marshall >> -- >> Marshall Booth Ph.D. >> Ass't Prof. (ret.) >> Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud
On 9/10/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had a different noise from the > rear before replacing the old axle, which had a torn boot and was dry. What > else could be whining back there? > Little kids who want ice cream? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud
I've looked at the fan and the shroud. I don't see any evidence of scraping. I would think I would see markings. My other thoughts on this mystery noise are: Wheel bearings Our belt seems looser than it might should be. Wonder if that could be the noise? I have not owned a car with a serpentine before. Something related to our use of the parking brake (which we don't use all that often, but did yesterday) Brian 87 190D On 9/10/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Take a flat blade screwdriver and pry the fan shroud clips up. Move the fan > shroud to a new position where it's not rubbing. Tap the clips back into > place. Problem solved. > > Luther > > On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:17:48 -0500, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That sounds like something I can live with - nudging the shroud possibly. > > > > I wonder if the intermittent nature of the sound is explained by the > > fan clutch action. But this doesn't explain why the sound would not > > happen at idle or at the lower RPMs. Wait, maybe the torqueing of the > > engine added to the mix explains things. I'll have to think about > > this. > > > > I'm good at sitting around thinking as opposed to wrenching. > > > > Brian > > 87 190D > > > > On 9/9/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > In summary, sounds like a stick is stuck in the wheel - sort of that > >> > playing card-in-the-spokes sound but louder. > >> > >> I vote fan shroud. I don't believe it could be transmission-related. > >> Fortunately the shroud is somewhat adjustable in position. > >> > >> -- Jim > >> > > > > > > -- > Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark > '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case > '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) > '82 300CD (166 kmi) > '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold > '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers
Second chance offers are nothing more than eBay's effort to get more fees from sellers. Before their second chance offers, a lot of people (myself included) would contact the highest bidders if an auction didn't meet reserve to see if the bidders were interested. Of course, this is outside of the eBay universe, meaning they lost out on the fees. What continues to amaze me is how some things can be sold on eBay for such outrageous prices when they are available elsewhere for less. Case in point: The plastic "chrome" cover for the electric fuel pump on my Yamaha Virago (which fits all Viragos) is about $46 from retail parts places. This is the OEM part. In the last 60 days I have seen two of these, both used, go for over $100. WTF? Are people that stupid that they can use the Internet to trade on eBay but they can't find a part for their motorcycle? Amazing. Dan --- "Kaleb C. Striplin, work" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sellers can lower the reserve at anytime. If it > still does not meet reserve > and the seller wants to offer it to the high bidder > anyway, they send the > 2nd chance offer, whcih is basically a revised > auction I suppose. The sure > fire way to see if its legit is to check your > messages in ebay. Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
Glaziers? Guys who hang glass are melting? This is the first I've heard of this... Dan --- andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > < few are expanding?>> > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay
I joined Paypal several years ago and then didn't use it. Tried to access my account recently using the original password and other information. No luck. Then I tried to send a message to someone explaining the dilemma. No luck on that. Tried to open another account. Rejected because I already had an account under my name. Went through all possible help categories. No luck. Quit trying in frustration. Too many catch-22s. Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Use Paypal but provide funds from your CREDIT CARD, not bank account. If > there is a problem with non-delivered or misrepresented/shoddy > merchandise simply file a dispute with your credit card issuer and > withhold > payment. Works like a charm. > > On 9/10/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ebay, or more correctly, the eBay reseller community is far from >> sleaze-ball >> proof. But there are a lot of dishonest sellers everywhere - when's the >> last >> time you walked onto a new or used car lot & left with a comfortable "I >> like >> this sales guy" feeling? As I stated before, eBay is just an auction >> house, >> nothing more & nothing less. You have an issue with an eBay seller, not >> eBay. >> >> And as far as using their system to report fraud or a dishonest seller or >> a >> mis-represented product is concerned? I've used their on-line reporting >> tools more than just several times. In every case, they have responded to >> me. I've not always liked their response, sometime they go in the sellers >> favor, but they have always responded. But that's a result of >> arbitration. >> >> PayPal is your best recourse because a dispute immediately locks up the >> sellers funds & grabs the seller's attention. It's not PayPal's fault >> that >> you moved & changed your email address at the same time. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay
Feedback is a tool like anything else, and has to be evaluated in the grand scheme of things. I've bought from people who had some negative feedback, but I also take that into consideration with what they are selling and to whom. Not to mention, if they have a 15,000 feedback rating and have a handful of negatives each month, I consider that a part of doing business - you're never going to have 100% satisfaction when dealing with large numbers. The type of feedback is important, however, so I always go and read what people say in their negative feedback... I also use a credit card and bank account with PayPal. If I have the slightest concern about what I'm buying, or who I'm buying it for, I'll use the credit card. I have found that PayPal can be somewhat putative when placing holds on funds. Dan --- billr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been caught once by only doing a quick check of > feedback. Same result as you when the > 'seller/scammer' closed accounts and changed id. Now > I will only buy from folks with decent feedback that > I actually read and check feedback ID on. > BillR > Jacksonville FL > 1981 300SD 295k miles Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud
Speaking of noises, I had a used axle installed in my 1983 300TD and now I notice a whine from the rear that gets louder as I exceed 60+ mph. Could the "new" axle be causing the noise? I had a different noise from the rear before replacing the old axle, which had a torn boot and was dry. What else could be whining back there? On 9/10/07, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Luther wrote: > > Take a flat blade screwdriver and pry the fan shroud clips up. Move the > fan shroud to a new position where it's not rubbing. Tap the clips back > into place. Problem solved. > > That solves NOTHING except the noise if the cause is the collapse of one > or more engine mounts. When they get bad enough, a sudden stop can shove > the engine right through the radiator (making a mess of the fan, fan > clutch, belt tensioner and sometime even the timing cover as well as the > radiator). > > Marshall > -- > Marshall Booth Ph.D. > Ass't Prof. (ret.) > Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay
Use Paypal but provide funds from your CREDIT CARD, not bank account. If there is a problem with non-delivered or misrepresented/shoddy merchandise simply file a dispute with your credit card issuer and withhold payment. Works like a charm. On 9/10/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ebay, or more correctly, the eBay reseller community is far from > sleaze-ball > proof. But there are a lot of dishonest sellers everywhere - when's the > last > time you walked onto a new or used car lot & left with a comfortable "I > like > this sales guy" feeling? As I stated before, eBay is just an auction > house, > nothing more & nothing less. You have an issue with an eBay seller, not > eBay. > > And as far as using their system to report fraud or a dishonest seller or > a > mis-represented product is concerned? I've used their on-line reporting > tools more than just several times. In every case, they have responded to > me. I've not always liked their response, sometime they go in the sellers > favor, but they have always responded. But that's a result of arbitration. > > PayPal is your best recourse because a dispute immediately locks up the > sellers funds & grabs the seller's attention. It's not PayPal's fault that > you moved & changed your email address at the same time. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Glenn Brown > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 9:18 AM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: [MBZ] Ebay > > Tom, > 1. If Ebay is so sleaze-ball proof, why hadn't they even responded to my > report when I got taken via a falsely advertised product? > 2. I'm essentially dead in the water in regards to Paypal, as changing > both > geographic and Email addresses they put me in an endless loop and I can't > get access to change things there and no one will respond with a phone > number of a real human to get this accomplished. > > I'm currently treating Ebay like the Sunday comics . . . for entertainment > only. > > G. M. Brown > Brevard, NC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
<> Wonder what gave you that idea? Some huge icebergs several sq. miles in size are breaking off and floating into the open sea, threatening oil platforms in the Arctic. Perhaps this is what you are thinking of. On 9/7/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > yea, the glaziers are melting. Wonder why quite a few are expanding? > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730 FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:48 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12 > > > > Here's the latest news on the accelerated melting of the polar ice caps > > but > > not to worry, every word is probably a lie: > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coil packs
Thanks Randy Harry On 9/10/07, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have used the people noted below. The first one is Bob Bridge Toyota in > Renton Washington. No problems dealing > with them so far. > > The second one that I dealt with was Conicelli Toyota, somewhere in > Pennsylvania. However, the address has now > changed on line and I can't say for sure if it is the same people that I > used a year or two back. They were fine > then as well. > > Don't know what prices you folks in the USA get at the dealer but in > Canada, things are expensive. For example, I > just ordered a clutch disk for a 95 4Runner. The local dealer wanted just > under $200. I ordered it from the folks > in Renton Washington for $52. That is enough of a difference for me to > wait a few days for it to be shipped. > > Randy > > > http://www.1sttoyotaparts.com/ > > > http://www.usatoyotaparts.com/oem_parts.html > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Harry Watkins > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 8:24 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coil packs > > > Randy, I can't help with the Ford stuff but would like to know your Toyota > source. > > Thanks > Harry > > > On 9/7/07, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm told that there are some sort of spark plug boots attached to the > coil > > packs over the spark plugs. I'm told > > that it is a good idea to order new boots and put them on when changing > > sparkplugs on the Triton Ford motors. If > > the boot cracks and leaks, the engine will miss and people think it is > the > > coil. > > > > Boots are cheaper than coils. > > > > While we are off on this Ford line, does anyone have experience with a > > good place to buy genuine Ford parts online > > at a good price? I'm doing it with Toyota parts and assume there is > likely > > somewhere that would do the same with > > other brands. The local dealer is not about to cut his profit on parts > and > > I do like original equipment for many > > purposes. > > > > Randy > > > > -Original Message- > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coil packs > > > > > > < > spark plug. In my experience these are prone to failure (well, think > about > > it, > > you have 8 coils, thus the failure probability of one coil > > is multiplied by 8)>> > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration
Peter Merle wrote: > My New W124 300D non turbo exhibits strong vibration from idle to 1600 > rpm when engine is slightly loaded. Does not do this when out of gear > and you rev vehicle . It is rpm related and not road speed related . It > sounds a bit like an engine is labouring . Is this normal? ( BTW my > OM617's don't do this ) > What could cause this ? What I could come up with is possibly a loose > front vibration damper? > PEter The vibration you describe is NOT normal. Causes can be failed motor mounts, poor injector spray pattern, unbalanced injector function, and I'm sure other causes. Not something that can easily diagnosed without a LOT more information. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How to hold viscous couple W124
Peter Merle wrote: > The Haynes book refers to special tool to hold viscous fan coupler on > the OM603 's when loosening or fastening the coupler. How does this tool > work? Can one make a home made tool? > PEter You can wrap a strap wrench around the pulley or twist the serp belt so that it prevents the pulley from turning (but that may destroy the belt - especially if it's not quite new). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud
Luther wrote: > Take a flat blade screwdriver and pry the fan shroud clips up. Move the fan > shroud to a new position where it's not rubbing. Tap the clips back into > place. Problem solved. That solves NOTHING except the noise if the cause is the collapse of one or more engine mounts. When they get bad enough, a sudden stop can shove the engine right through the radiator (making a mess of the fan, fan clutch, belt tensioner and sometime even the timing cover as well as the radiator). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud
Zoltan Finks wrote: > That sounds like something I can live with - nudging the shroud possibly. > > I wonder if the intermittent nature of the sound is explained by the > fan clutch action. But this doesn't explain why the sound would not > happen at idle or at the lower RPMs. Wait, maybe the torqueing of the > engine added to the mix explains things. I'll have to think about > this. > > I'm good at sitting around thinking as opposed to wrenching. As engine speed changes, so does the position of the engine (that is balanced on three elastic mounts). If the front mounts have not been measured, you can't rule them out even if they have been recently replaced. The rear (transmission) mount is much more difficult to check. If it's original, I can almost guaranty it should be replaced. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] It's not PayPal's fault
Tom, How exactly can I explain this to you? Without being able to use Paypal, I might as well not have access to Ebay and their on-line procedures put me in an endless loop in which I cannot access anything to change what's needed and they will not respond. Understood? Thanx. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid car killer Jeremy Clarkson
Hey, this is what I wondered about a while ago: How would one of those MB SLK AMG deals do against a Porsche? Anyway, those shows look quite entertaining. What network are they on? Brian On 9/9/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here's one of Jeremy driving through town in a Boxter and > a MBZ while eight Irish snipers try to shoot him: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCJP9IZrYUQ > > Unfortunately, no motojournalists were harmed in the filming of > this episode. It was just grown up version of laser tag. Still > fun to watch. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stupid car killer Jeremy Clarkson
Zoltan Finks wrote: > Anyway, those shows look quite entertaining. What network are they on? BBC. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coil packs
I have used the people noted below. The first one is Bob Bridge Toyota in Renton Washington. No problems dealing with them so far. The second one that I dealt with was Conicelli Toyota, somewhere in Pennsylvania. However, the address has now changed on line and I can't say for sure if it is the same people that I used a year or two back. They were fine then as well. Don't know what prices you folks in the USA get at the dealer but in Canada, things are expensive. For example, I just ordered a clutch disk for a 95 4Runner. The local dealer wanted just under $200. I ordered it from the folks in Renton Washington for $52. That is enough of a difference for me to wait a few days for it to be shipped. Randy http://www.1sttoyotaparts.com/ http://www.usatoyotaparts.com/oem_parts.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Harry Watkins Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 8:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coil packs Randy, I can't help with the Ford stuff but would like to know your Toyota source. Thanks Harry On 9/7/07, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm told that there are some sort of spark plug boots attached to the coil > packs over the spark plugs. I'm told > that it is a good idea to order new boots and put them on when changing > sparkplugs on the Triton Ford motors. If > the boot cracks and leaks, the engine will miss and people think it is the > coil. > > Boots are cheaper than coils. > > While we are off on this Ford line, does anyone have experience with a > good place to buy genuine Ford parts online > at a good price? I'm doing it with Toyota parts and assume there is likely > somewhere that would do the same with > other brands. The local dealer is not about to cut his profit on parts and > I do like original equipment for many > purposes. > > Randy > > -Original Message- > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coil packs > > > < spark plug. In my experience these are prone to failure (well, think about > it, > you have 8 coils, thus the failure probability of one coil > is multiplied by 8)>> > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Must be new car season...
On 9/9/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > maxima come with a stick? > > I don't know about the current ones, but they used to. Had a friend in college who had one of the early '90s ones with the silly "Four Door Sports Car" decals on the windows. IIRC the '92-'94 Special Edition model had the 190-hp V6 from the 300ZX, limited slip, sport suspension, leather, and 5-speed all standard. Nice car. One of the few Japanese V-layout engines with timing chains instead of belts, too. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery Noise Time - Embarrasingly Loud
Take a flat blade screwdriver and pry the fan shroud clips up. Move the fan shroud to a new position where it's not rubbing. Tap the clips back into place. Problem solved. Luther On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:17:48 -0500, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That sounds like something I can live with - nudging the shroud possibly. > > I wonder if the intermittent nature of the sound is explained by the > fan clutch action. But this doesn't explain why the sound would not > happen at idle or at the lower RPMs. Wait, maybe the torqueing of the > engine added to the mix explains things. I'll have to think about > this. > > I'm good at sitting around thinking as opposed to wrenching. > > Brian > 87 190D > > On 9/9/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > In summary, sounds like a stick is stuck in the wheel - sort of that >> > playing card-in-the-spokes sound but louder. >> >> I vote fan shroud. I don't believe it could be transmission-related. >> Fortunately the shroud is somewhat adjustable in position. >> >> -- Jim >> > -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay
Ebay, or more correctly, the eBay reseller community is far from sleaze-ball proof. But there are a lot of dishonest sellers everywhere - when's the last time you walked onto a new or used car lot & left with a comfortable "I like this sales guy" feeling? As I stated before, eBay is just an auction house, nothing more & nothing less. You have an issue with an eBay seller, not eBay. And as far as using their system to report fraud or a dishonest seller or a mis-represented product is concerned? I've used their on-line reporting tools more than just several times. In every case, they have responded to me. I've not always liked their response, sometime they go in the sellers favor, but they have always responded. But that's a result of arbitration. PayPal is your best recourse because a dispute immediately locks up the sellers funds & grabs the seller's attention. It's not PayPal's fault that you moved & changed your email address at the same time. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Brown Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 9:18 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Ebay Tom, 1. If Ebay is so sleaze-ball proof, why hadn't they even responded to my report when I got taken via a falsely advertised product? 2. I'm essentially dead in the water in regards to Paypal, as changing both geographic and Email addresses they put me in an endless loop and I can't get access to change things there and no one will respond with a phone number of a real human to get this accomplished. I'm currently treating Ebay like the Sunday comics . . . for entertainment only. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers
On Sep 10, 2007, at 7:47 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > There'll be another bus along in awhile > if you don't get it. Bid what you think is a fair price, and forget > about it. Just MHO. The ebay automatic search function is also great way to find a part without endless checking on your part. For example my S class had a bad Xenon ballast, (about $500 from dealer). Be patient, after 4 months of searching up popped a sale of broken set of xenon lamps with buy it now, $200 later I've two sets of ballasts & ignitors plus bulbs. Dealer pricing about $2300. Rusty will sell for less, but likely not for $200. John 1983 300TDt 383k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 205k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 194k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers
> Anyhow I am suspicious that some unscrupulous ebayers are using the > second chance offer system to stick it to the buying public. Bidding up > their item and then when they end up the winner, due to greed, send out > second chance offers to try and sell the item. Shill bidding can't screw you if you NEVER BID MORE THAN YOU'RE WILLING TO PAY! Yes, you might end up paying more than you might have otherwise, but so what? There'll be another bus along in awhile if you don't get it. Bid what you think is a fair price, and forget about it. Just MHO. eBay hasn't added anything to auction lore, it's just exposed more people to auctions. You only lose if you don't know how the game works. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers
These are always auctions with reserves. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers I take it these where auctions with reserves? A second chance offer from an item that did not make the reserve is different to a second chance offer from an unreserved auction. My understanding is that the highest bidder in an unreserved auction is the buyer, he/she may well default, in which case I may expect a second chance offer after a few days or even weeks. If I was near the top of the bidding. Say I bid on a 124 station wagen, my highest bid was 5k and it sold for 5.5k. I may get an email in a while to say that the highest bidder has not followed through with the deal and would I be interested in buying the car for my bid. If I was I would go back to the original auction and contact the seller via it, to establish that he/she is actually offering me a second chance and not some scammer in Nigeria. Anyhow I am suspicious that some unscrupulous ebayers are using the second chance offer system to stick it to the buying public. Bidding up their item and then when they end up the winner, due to greed, send out second chance offers to try and sell the item. I am not saying you do this sort of thing Tom but it could be possible. Tom Hargrave wrote: > I've often listed items for sale that did not bid up high enough & > immediately send out second chance offers right after the items did not > sell. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] FS 82 380 SEL 29k Miles, $7k, Des Moines
Boring, unattractive non-collectible sedan. Unless it has been garaged and properly maintained, $7K is too much even if the low miles are genuine. On 9/8/07, Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just got this from a friend, who knows I'm a Benz guy. Sounds like a > good deal for someone. No affiliation, no knowledge, haven't seen the > car. Did talk to the guy briefly and it sounds like the real deal, > but since its not a diesel, I'll pass. Located in West Des Moines, > Iowa. > > > > > 1982 Buttercream-color MB 380 SEL > > 4-door > > 29,600 miles > > Spent much of its time in Florida > > Described to be in mint condition > > Asking price $7,000. > > John & Judi Pete > > 515/224-9992 > > Dan Weeks > Freelance Writer and Photographer > 515/279-4825 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ebay
I've been caught once by only doing a quick check of feedback. Same result as you when the 'seller/scammer' closed accounts and changed id. Now I will only buy from folks with decent feedback that I actually read and check feedback ID on. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 295k miles -Original Message- >From: Glenn Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sep 10, 2007 10:18 AM >To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >Subject: [MBZ] Ebay > >Tom, >1. If Ebay is so sleaze-ball proof, why hadn't they even responded to my >report when I got taken via a falsely advertised product? >2. I'm essentially dead in the water in regards to Paypal, as changing both >geographic and Email addresses they put me in an endless loop and I can't >get access to change things there and no one will respond with a phone >number of a real human to get this accomplished. > >I'm currently treating Ebay like the Sunday comics . . . for entertainment >only. > >G. M. Brown >Brevard, NC >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ebay
Tom, 1. If Ebay is so sleaze-ball proof, why hadn't they even responded to my report when I got taken via a falsely advertised product? 2. I'm essentially dead in the water in regards to Paypal, as changing both geographic and Email addresses they put me in an endless loop and I can't get access to change things there and no one will respond with a phone number of a real human to get this accomplished. I'm currently treating Ebay like the Sunday comics . . . for entertainment only. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers
none of my 2nd chance offers are on reserve auctions. I do it when I have several of the same item --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Hendrik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers >I take it these where auctions with reserves? > A second chance offer from an item that did not make the reserve is > different to a second chance offer from an unreserved auction. > My understanding is that the highest bidder in an unreserved auction is > the buyer, he/she may well default, in which case I may expect a second > chance offer after a few days or even weeks. If I was near the top of > the bidding. > Say I bid on a 124 station wagen, my highest bid was 5k and it sold for > 5.5k. I may get an email in a while to say that the highest bidder has > not followed through with the deal and would I be interested in buying > the car for my bid. If I was I would go back to the original auction and > contact the seller via it, to establish that he/she is actually offering > me a second chance and not some scammer in Nigeria. > Anyhow I am suspicious that some unscrupulous ebayers are using the > second chance offer system to stick it to the buying public. Bidding up > their item and then when they end up the winner, due to greed, send out > second chance offers to try and sell the item. > I am not saying you do this sort of thing Tom but it could be possible. > > > Tom Hargrave wrote: >> I've often listed items for sale that did not bid up high enough & >> immediately send out second chance offers right after the items did not >> sell. >> >> Thanks, >> Tom Hargrave >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers
Sellers can lower the reserve at anytime. If it still does not meet reserve and the seller wants to offer it to the high bidder anyway, they send the 2nd chance offer, whcih is basically a revised auction I suppose. The sure fire way to see if its legit is to check your messages in ebay. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Hendrik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers > Perhaps ebay should have a system in place where the reserve can be > lowered by the consent of the seller and the highest bidder. Sort of > like giving you the ability to send the highest bidder a revised auction > with a lowered reserve, if the buyer accepts he/she will have the > protection of the ebay system. > However ebay is a business to make money and not make life easy. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers
Perhaps ebay should have a system in place where the reserve can be lowered by the consent of the seller and the highest bidder. Sort of like giving you the ability to send the highest bidder a revised auction with a lowered reserve, if the buyer accepts he/she will have the protection of the ebay system. However ebay is a business to make money and not make life easy. Tom Hargrave wrote: > No, I'm not talking about my beer store items. They are all very > competitively priced & what does not sell to you will sell to someone else. > > But I do sell collectable items every once in a while & when bidding gets > close, but not close enough, I'll look at the highest bidders & decide if > it's worth the trouble of going through another auction or just sending out > one or two second chance offers. More often then not, the second chance > offers are ignored. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers
I take it these where auctions with reserves? A second chance offer from an item that did not make the reserve is different to a second chance offer from an unreserved auction. My understanding is that the highest bidder in an unreserved auction is the buyer, he/she may well default, in which case I may expect a second chance offer after a few days or even weeks. If I was near the top of the bidding. Say I bid on a 124 station wagen, my highest bid was 5k and it sold for 5.5k. I may get an email in a while to say that the highest bidder has not followed through with the deal and would I be interested in buying the car for my bid. If I was I would go back to the original auction and contact the seller via it, to establish that he/she is actually offering me a second chance and not some scammer in Nigeria. Anyhow I am suspicious that some unscrupulous ebayers are using the second chance offer system to stick it to the buying public. Bidding up their item and then when they end up the winner, due to greed, send out second chance offers to try and sell the item. I am not saying you do this sort of thing Tom but it could be possible. Tom Hargrave wrote: > I've often listed items for sale that did not bid up high enough & > immediately send out second chance offers right after the items did not > sell. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers
I often put out 2nd chance offers, usually within a few minutes of the auction ending. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Hendrik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers >I am 100% sure they are frauds, why would the seller put out second > chance offers less than a day after auction end? > But you are right, the only way to make sure is to ask the seller via > ebay. A lot of sellers state on their auction that they don't do second > chance offers. > > Robert & Tara Ludwick wrote: >> If you get a second chance offer, contact the original seller through >> ebay and find out if it's legit. Most of the time it's scammers that go >> behind hot auctions like vultures and hit everyone on the bidder list., >> if it really is from the seller, you're good to go. >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers
No, I'm not talking about my beer store items. They are all very competitively priced & what does not sell to you will sell to someone else. But I do sell collectable items every once in a while & when bidding gets close, but not close enough, I'll look at the highest bidders & decide if it's worth the trouble of going through another auction or just sending out one or two second chance offers. More often then not, the second chance offers are ignored. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 6:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers Tom Hargrave wrote: > > I've often listed items for sale that did not bid up high enough & > immediately send out second chance offers right after the items did not > sell. Did you ever say to yourself "Hey, that keg tap went high, I'd like to sell three more to the losing bidders"? I just remembered the situation where I did that the most. I was buying 100 yard rolls of ultralight fiberglass cloth, cutting it into 5 yard lengths (fit nicely into a gallon ziploc bag) and selling it on eBay to model aircraft builders with a $9.99 starting bid. Each package cost me about $5, so I'd try to sell to everybody who bid, and was happy to cut eBay out of the commission on the extra sales. With hobby shops selling it for $3-5 a yard, the buyers were happy too. Hmm, I wonder if I can still get a 300' x 3' roll of 3/4oz glass for $85? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers
Tom Hargrave wrote: > > I've often listed items for sale that did not bid up high enough & > immediately send out second chance offers right after the items did not > sell. Did you ever say to yourself "Hey, that keg tap went high, I'd like to sell three more to the losing bidders"? I just remembered the situation where I did that the most. I was buying 100 yard rolls of ultralight fiberglass cloth, cutting it into 5 yard lengths (fit nicely into a gallon ziploc bag) and selling it on eBay to model aircraft builders with a $9.99 starting bid. Each package cost me about $5, so I'd try to sell to everybody who bid, and was happy to cut eBay out of the commission on the extra sales. With hobby shops selling it for $3-5 a yard, the buyers were happy too. Hmm, I wonder if I can still get a 300' x 3' roll of 3/4oz glass for $85? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers
I've often listed items for sale that did not bid up high enough & immediately send out second chance offers right after the items did not sell. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 12:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers I am 100% sure they are frauds, why would the seller put out second chance offers less than a day after auction end? But you are right, the only way to make sure is to ask the seller via ebay. A lot of sellers state on their auction that they don't do second chance offers. Robert & Tara Ludwick wrote: > If you get a second chance offer, contact the original seller through > ebay and find out if it's legit. Most of the time it's scammers that go > behind hot auctions like vultures and hit everyone on the bidder list., > if it really is from the seller, you're good to go. > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i really don't get how brick and mortar shops can survive today
Unless you are fortunate enough to be in a great market, retail can be a brutal business. And if you are in a great market then there's always someone else opening up a competing shop. A retail shop owner is not trying to retire off each sale. In many cases, he's trying to survive & really wishes that he could raise his prices even higher. Good on-line shops can sell cheaper than brick & mortar shops because business costs are no-where close to each other. The most obvious cost difference between a retail location and a on-line (warehouse) location is rent - I pay about $4,000 less per month than if I were in a low cost strip mall somewhere. The second cost is fixturing, starting with the racks & shelves for the product, all the way out through the checkout stands. Even used fixturing, providing you can find whet you want used, can cost a small fortune. Warehouses use low cost shelving & there are no product displays to set up and maintain. And these are just two examples - there are many more. All of these cost savings can translate into savings for on-line customers, often so much savings that they more than cover freight. My on-line business is open for limited local hours, but it's very obvious that it is a warehouse operation. I'd have to mark up my goods another 20% - 30% just to stay where I'm at profit wise if I were shipping out of a traditional store front. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert & Tara Ludwick Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 10:59 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] i really don't get how brick and mortar shops can survive today We buy just about everything but fuel and groceries online, It saves a minor fortune. Building material have remained the last bastion of protected territorial marketing , but it looks like that's finally cutting loose as well. It's about time. I have no sympathy for the local business owners crying about how they're loosing business to the internet. If ( at least around here ) they weren't trying to retire off of each sale, and being jerks about it to boot, they wouldn't be loosing business. I can't wait until some enterprising lumber wholesaler goes internet and starts offering direct ship lumber without the extra 2-3 middle men. --Robert Peter T. Arnold wrote: > On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 22:07:19 -0400, you wrote: > > >> i've been stopping at every hardware/home/discounter store i pass for the >> last week looking for burgundy rustoleum. my leg kills me every time i get >> back in the car. it's 90 degrees outside. no one seems to have it. >> >> i look online . my order is placed in 5 minutes. they are paying the >> freight. i'll have it within a week. >> >> how can your local hardware store compete with this? >> ___ >> > Last year we remolded the Home interior. Took the kitchen out to the > studs! Spent the value of a Buick. > New high end cabinets from Home Depot, best to pay them to worry about > layout > > $5,000 of appliances and stuff bought online, savings after shipping > was about 25% > "Pergo" style flooring for living room bought online, savings was > about 50% > > My wife is a shopaholic, she like to get the last dime off the table. > > Buying on line has been very good for us! > > -- > > Regards, > > Peter T. Arnold > > 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! > 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson > 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi > 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen > Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood Pads
<>Re: [MBZ] Hood Pads IMHO: The heat shield is for the higher mounted turbos, like the '85 300D CA model, as there is nothing between the turbo and the hood. On this model the air cleaner is mounted in the front passenger side corner. I have this model, and it needs a heat shield, others shouldn't need it. Rob '85 300D CA Costa Mesa, CA == Message: 17 Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 14:48:27 -0400 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood Pads To: "Mercedes Discussion List" No heat shield is required and Rusty's standard on is fine. Carefull gluing on use ample 3m spray glue Tom 1979 240D Message: 18 Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 11:50:38 -0700 From: Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood Pads To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed heat shield is for the turbo, since it matters not to the hoodpad if it is going into any w123. If you have the turbo, you want the heatsheild. On 7 Sep 2007, at 10:07, LarryT wrote: >> Howdy - >> I need a hood pad for the '78 240D and noticed Rusty sells one >> with, and >> one without a heatshield. >> >> Living in Va I'm not sure I need the heatshield. While I don't >> mind >> extra protection, if the heatshield is only needed when traversing >> Africa in >> high summer, it might be a waste to put it on mine. But, if it >> will make >> the AC work easier I'll go for it - >> >> Comments? >> >> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) >> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts >> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil >> PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net >> Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs >> . >> >> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How to hold viscous couple W124
Peter Merle wrote: > > The Haynes book refers to special tool to hold viscous fan coupler on > the OM603 's when loosening or fastening the coupler. How does this tool > work? Can one make a home made tool? http://www.w124performance.com/images/tools/OM60x_serp_belt_tools.jpg You could email Dave M for details. I'm afraid I don't have his addy handy. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] How to hold viscous couple W124
The Haynes book refers to special tool to hold viscous fan coupler on the OM603 's when loosening or fastening the coupler. How does this tool work? Can one make a home made tool? PEter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration
My New W124 300D non turbo exhibits strong vibration from idle to 1600 rpm when engine is slightly loaded. Does not do this when out of gear and you rev vehicle . It is rpm related and not road speed related . It sounds a bit like an engine is labouring . Is this normal? ( BTW my OM617's don't do this ) What could cause this ? What I could come up with is possibly a loose front vibration damper? PEter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Must be new car season...
For 20 years out in the hot sun? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I own one. > > > Harry > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers
Hendrik wrote: > > Yes but the 'supposed' seller does not make mention of not meeting > reserve and there is a reserve not met on an auction if that is the case. > I bid 100 bucks on that phone, it sold for 230 and the spoofer says that > I can pay my price. Several years ago, I sold stuff on eBay as a quasi-retail activity. I'd save off a copy of the bidders list with email addys just before the auction ended. (the addys were only available to me, and all but the winner's address became unavilable to me the minute the auction ended) Anybody whose bid was attractive to me got an email outside of eBay. If you got that email, it was a signal that you could have bought it where I bought it much cheaper. I never went more than 10% below the auction price. If the email came from somebody who knew your email addy and the auction you bid on, it probably came from the seller. The price difference implies that either the bidders are paying way too much, or the auction is a scam and they are getting nothing for their money. Is it possible that the seller is getting the phones for next to nothing from an outfit like Tracfone, unlocking them by deleting Tracfone's software, and selling them for a huge profit? Or is it possible they have a crate of stolen phones? Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers
Yes but the 'supposed' seller does not make mention of not meeting reserve and there is a reserve not met on an auction if that is the case. I bid 100 bucks on that phone, it sold for 230 and the spoofer says that I can pay my price. John Freer wrote: > Happens all the time. Something I List doesn't meet the Reserve but > the highest bidder was close enough. I will then make a second offer > to that bidder through Ebay. > > Anything out of the Ebay system should be ignored. > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
