On 2018-04-01 11:24, Steve Litt wrote:
On Sun, 1 Apr 2018 16:29:23 +0200
Antony Stone wrote:
On Sunday 01 April 2018 at 16:13:10, aitor_czr wrote:
> On 31/03/18 20:54, Rick Moen wrote:
> Where is Vladimir Karimov, one of the worst dictators of the world,
> fortunately dead?
[snip]
Seco
On Sun, 1 Apr 2018 16:29:23 +0200
Antony Stone wrote:
> On Sunday 01 April 2018 at 16:13:10, aitor_czr wrote:
>
> > On 31/03/18 20:54, Rick Moen wrote:
> > Where is Vladimir Karimov, one of the worst dictators of the world,
> > fortunately dead?
>
[snip]
>
> Secondly, what has the current r
On Sun, 1 Apr 2018 17:39:35 +0200
aitor_czr wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 01/04/18 16:29, Antony Stone wrote:
> > On Sunday 01 April 2018 at 16:13:10, aitor_czr wrote:
> >
> >> On 31/03/18 20:54, Rick Moen wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, and your point is?
> >> My point of view, you mean?
> >>
> >> By downloading
Hi,
On 01/04/18 16:29, Antony Stone wrote:
On Sunday 01 April 2018 at 16:13:10, aitor_czr wrote:
On 31/03/18 20:54, Rick Moen wrote:
Yes, and your point is?
My point of view, you mean?
By downloading CentOS software, you acknowledge that you understand all
of the following: CentOS software
Quoting Antony Stone (antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it):
> Firstly, I am not familiar with who Vladimir Karimov is, and a Google
> / Wikipedia search has not helped me to find out.
>
> Secondly, what has the current resting place of a dead dictator got to
> do with Open Source licensing and Red
On Sunday 01 April 2018 at 16:13:10, aitor_czr wrote:
> On 31/03/18 20:54, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> > Yes, and your point is?
>
> My point of view, you mean?
>
> By downloading CentOS software, you acknowledge that you understand all
> of the following: CentOS software and technical information may be
Hi Rick,
On 31/03/18 20:54, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting aitor_czr (aitor_...@gnuinos.org):
Scientific Linux is a CentOS based distribution,
Indeed, which in turn is an RHEL rebuild, with the result that they are
both RHEL rebuilds. I'm thus really not sure what your point is.
But..., read here
Quoting chillfan (chill...@protonmail.com):
> I've not paid attention to Red Hat since FC1, so I have no idea what
> the issues are there. That's a whole different can of worms anyway.
Well, if you wish to know, I _have_ documented the matter:
'RHEL ISOs' on http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Licensing_and
Quoting aitor_czr (aitor_...@gnuinos.org):
> Scientific Linux is a CentOS based distribution,
Indeed, which in turn is an RHEL rebuild, with the result that they are
both RHEL rebuilds. I'm thus really not sure what your point is.
> But..., read here:
>
> https://www.centos.org/legal/
Yes, an
I've not paid attention to Red Hat since FC1, so I have no idea what the issues
are there. That's a whole different can of worms anyway.
If someone is happy to rebrand then it's fine. Also I don't mean to put down
derivatives, I just think a defacto replacement would work out best.
Thanks,
ch
Hi Rick,
On 31/03/18 18:14, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting chillfan (chill...@protonmail.com):
I think it was important to point this situation out. If distributing
free software can potentially get you into a legal situation this
quickly, then it's just not worth the headache that follows.
So, you
Quoting chillfan (chill...@protonmail.com):
> I think it was important to point this situation out. If distributing
> free software can potentially get you into a legal situation this
> quickly, then it's just not worth the headache that follows.
So, you're saying that CentOS and Scientific Linux
I think it was important to point this situation out. If distributing free
software can potentially get you into a legal situation this quickly, then it's
just not worth the headache that follows.
IMHO..
The primary reason for searching for an alternative to firefox is not that it
sucks but be
* On 2018 31 Mar 02:15 -0500, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 30/03/2018 à 16:28, Steve Litt a écrit :
> > Here's why I wouldn't use Palemoon if it were the last browser on earth:
> >
> > https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86
> >
> > By the way, a little research on USPTO shows they have no r
Le 30/03/2018 à 16:28, Steve Litt a écrit :
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 17:42:37 +0200
Jaromil wrote:
hi Chillfan,
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, Chillfan wrote:
I agree that a fork is needed, but I think this would be a whole
lot of work.
yes. forks are a LOT of work. Even Devuan, which I'd say is a
relati
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 07:42:49PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> Certainly your privilege -- but, to just by your bellyaching, you'd
> think it was difficult to just substitute a slightly different name
> and logo, which it's not.
You have to specify a specific option in order *not* to substitute
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> I gotta show these guys *everything*...
It's worse than that: If you want us to understand that you did a
trademark search not just at USPTO but also at EUIPO, Canadian
Intellectual Property Office, India Trade Marks Registry, WIPO, CIPC,
China T
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 13:36:05 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
>
> > Here's why I wouldn't use Palemoon if it were the last browser on
> > earth: https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86
> >
> > By the way, a little research on USPTO shows they ha
On 30/03/18 22:36, Rick Moen wrote:
And, for gosh sakes, spend a few minutes to learn some real trademark
law, already. Please.
People fork the mozilla browser due to its legal restrictions (i think);
so, referring to palemoon, where is the sense of forking it applying
similar restrictions?
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> Here's why I wouldn't use Palemoon if it were the last browser on earth:
> https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86
>
> By the way, a little research on USPTO shows they have no registered
> trademark on "Palemoon". For somebody so lawyer
On Friday 30 March 2018 at 21:39:14, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 10:28:00AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > Here's why I wouldn't use Palemoon if it were the last browser on earth:
> >
> > https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86
>
> Is there another name that palemoon
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 10:28:00AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 17:42:37 +0200
> Jaromil wrote:
>
> > hi Chillfan,
> >
> > On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, Chillfan wrote:
> >
> > > I agree that a fork is needed, but I think this would be a whole
> > > lot of work.
> >
> > yes. forks a
Hi,
On 2018 30 Mar 09:29 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
Here's why I wouldn't use Palemoon if it were the last browser on earth:
https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86
After reading the discussion, makes me want to remove Pale Moon from
gnuinos. What about Abrowser, Trisquel's version of
* On 2018 30 Mar 09:29 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> Here's why I wouldn't use Palemoon if it were the last browser on earth:
>
> https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86
Thanks, Steve. I'm off to remove it from my laptop.
I guess they just set themselves up as a "routing problem". Good
That's interesting. Perhaps it was best I didn't get palemoon building
correctly, I was under the impression they had changed to a more friendly
approach with their official branding.
So that would make Palemoon builds even more difficult there.
Thanks,
chillfan
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 17:42:37 +0200
Jaromil wrote:
> hi Chillfan,
>
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, Chillfan wrote:
>
> > I agree that a fork is needed, but I think this would be a whole
> > lot of work.
>
> yes. forks are a LOT of work. Even Devuan, which I'd say is a
> relatively easy fork, mostly n
I believe so as well, but if I remember the build dependencies given in Steve
Pussers sources require and fetch (apt-get build-dep) gcc-4.9 so it may be
right that 4.9 is needed, or it should be built on Jessie. That might be why I
was having issues with stability.
Thanks,
chillfan
‐‐‐ O
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2018 schrieb Tomasz Torcz 👁️:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 02:42:53AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 05:43:15PM -0400, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> > > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/20/mozilla_firefox_test_of_privacy_mechanism_prompts_privacy_worrie
Le 30/03/2018 à 11:40, aitor_czr a écrit :
Hi Hendrik,
On 30/03/18 11:25, Hendrik Boom wrote:
What happens with later versions of gcc? fails to build, or fails
to function when built?
There are deb packages for debian 9:
https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home:stevenpusser&
Hi Hendrik,
On 30/03/18 11:25, Hendrik Boom wrote:
What happens with later versions of gcc? fails to build, or fails
to function when built?
There are deb packages for debian 9:
https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home:stevenpusser&package=palemoon
So, palemoon should work on
Le 30/03/2018 à 11:25, Hendrik Boom a écrit :
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 09:30:48AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
Palemoon is also stuck with gcc-4.9. The documentation says that and
discourages trying to build it with versions newer than GCC-5.3 AFAIR.
I've built it on Jessie (without PA) and co
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 09:30:48AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> Palemoon is also stuck with gcc-4.9. The documentation says that and
> discourages trying to build it with versions newer than GCC-5.3 AFAIR.
> I've built it on Jessie (without PA) and copied the binary to ASCII with
> no proble
Le 29/03/2018 à 17:42, Jaromil a écrit :
palemoon is stuck at "version 27" series of Firefox and in any case
its in the 2x series I doubt it can be brought up to 50 since the
codebase is rather different.
said that, I'm happy with palemoon, using always the latest stable
release tagged on the g
On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 02:42:53AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 05:43:15PM -0400, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/20/mozilla_firefox_test_of_privacy_mechanism_prompts_privacy_worries/
> >
> > Mozilla sucks these days - they pay zero attenti
I suspect if I tried building from palemoon sources, it might be easier to
figure that out (I will try with your mozconfig some time). In any case Steve
Pussers builds seem to work reliably and are regularly updated, which makes it
easy.
The issue I think is when you don't use dbus or pulse, et
hi Chillfan,
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, Chillfan wrote:
> I agree that a fork is needed, but I think this would be a whole lot of work.
yes. forks are a LOT of work. Even Devuan, which I'd say is a
relatively easy fork, mostly needing work on the infrastructure and
testing and documentation side, was
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 06:32:44AM -0400, Chillfan wrote:
>
> A lot of times a forks fall short of taking care of everything,
sometimes features are built but disabled by default (which is not
much better than disabling it yourself).
It's a lot better than having to disable the feature yourself
I agree that a fork is needed, but I think this would be a whole lot of work.
IMHO, it's not enough to just disable features by default or have good
defaults. The fact they are there to begin with is a similar argument as with
systemd - we don't want to install these features to begin with, and
Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl):
> Support in filesystem varies:
> * ext{2,3,4}, xfs, btrfs, reiserfs, f2fs, ..., do
> * tmpfs doesn't
> * vfat doesn't on Linux but (reportedly) does on Windows
> * ntfs does
> Usually you can mount -o nouser_xattr, which is wrongly documented as being
On Wed, 2018-03-28 at 02:42 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> More interesting is the timing between this addition and the DNC hack, where
> the files are known to have been saved to an USB pen drive. This would
> explain the weird inclusion of refer[r]er, which has no obvious legitimate
> use but wo
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 07:16:54PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> I have been using Waterfox of late which is *supposed* to be stripping
> that sort of nonsense out.
Alas, no one has yet produced a sane packaging of Waterfox.
It would be interesting to have -- especially that Waterfox has existed
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 05:43:15PM -0400, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/20/mozilla_firefox_test_of_privacy_mechanism_prompts_privacy_worries/
>
> Mozilla sucks these days - they pay zero attention to the issue of
> browser fingerprinting and keep sending users data
I have been using Waterfox of late which is *supposed* to be stripping
that sort of nonsense out.
- Nate
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