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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote:
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> > > There are plenty of scenarios where any number of
> > > states might have "no qualities" that
> > > one can rem
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > There are plenty of scenarios where any number of
> > states might have "no qualities" that
> > one can remember. If you can't remember any
> > qualities, than its a
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> There are plenty of scenarios where any number of
> states might have "no qualities" that
> one can remember. If you can't remember any
> qualities, than its a state without qualities.
And pure consciousness has no "qualities". It is
"outside" of the
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
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> > I would say that the same phenomenon would be present
> > in research on any technique of meditation in which
> > the meditators were devoted practitioner
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
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> > > But at a certain point, Occam's razor comes into play;
> > > the "differ
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
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> > I would say that the same phenomenon would be present
> > in research on any technique of meditation in which
> > the meditators were devoted practitioner
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I would say that the same phenomenon would be present
> in research on any technique of meditation in which
> the meditators were devoted practitioners of the
> technique being "researched." They already know what
> the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> > But at a certain point, Occam's razor comes into play;
> > the "different experience" premise may "multiply
> > entities beyond necessity." The
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> > > But at a certain point, Occam's razor comes into play;
> > > the "diffe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> > But at a certain point, Occam's razor comes into play;
> > the "different experience" premise may "multiply
> > entities beyond necessity." The
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> But at a certain point, Occam's razor comes into play;
> the "different experience" premise may "multiply
> entities beyond necessity." The explanation that the
> TMers are experiencing the same thing as what
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
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> > > i posted this original post as a joke. But with a serious point.
> > > Something Bar
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning
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> > > i posted this original post as a joke. But with a serious point.
> > > Something B
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote:
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> > i posted this original post as a joke. But with a serious point.
> > Something Barry touched on earlier. We take target or desired
> > physiological param
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> i posted this original post as a joke. But with a serious point.
> Something Barry touched on earlier. We take target or desired
> physiological parameters as a given -- with scant justification --
> though admittedly
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Jul 15, 2006, at 2:09 PM, new.morning wrote:
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http://www.psychosomaticmedicine.org/cgi/content/abstract/46/4/347
> >> This study attempted to follow up this finding and
> >> hypothesized that a group of neur
i posted this original post as a joke. But with a serious point.
Something Barry touched on earlier. We take target or desired
physiological parameters as a given -- with scant justification --
though admittedly often with basic common sense.
Just because brain waves become coherent, or "low-S va
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Jul 15, 2006, at 2:09 PM, new.morning wrote:
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http://www.psychosomaticmedicine.org/cgi/content/abstract/46/4/347
> >> This study attempted to follow up this finding and
> >> hypothesized that a group of neur
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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http://www.psychosomaticmedicine.org/cgi/content/abstract/46/4/347
> >This study attempted to follow up this finding and
> > hypothesized that a group of neurotically disturbed patients
would
> > have a highe
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