A common story told to us on TM-courses - was about the meditator
that wished for an apple and suddenly the apple was in his hand. I
have never experienced such a thing, but I think from my mind it is
possible from the consciousness to create material things. Deepak
Chopra has explained it in
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A common story told to us on TM-courses - was about the meditator
that wished for an apple and suddenly the apple was in his hand. I
have never experienced such a thing, but I think from my mind it
is possible from
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hoogeh snippeh
#2: Quantum vacuum potentials are not unmanifest Spirit.
OM AkAshastalliN^gAt.h OM
- BS I 22 :D
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hoogeh snippeh
#2: Quantum vacuum potentials are not unmanifest Spirit.
OM AkAshastalliN^gAt.h OM
Addenda corrigenda:
- BS I 1 22
On Jan 22, 2006, at 5:43 AM, cardemaister wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hoogeh snippeh #2: Quantum vacuum potentials are not unmanifest Spirit. OM AkAshastalliN^gAt.h OM
There is a little booklet written by a Finnish clergyman Raimo Mäkelä.
He has been working for the Finnish Established Church. The title of
the book would be in English something like : The healthy mind as a
mask. It was published in 2001.
There he describes a certain personality type, which he
--- Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is a little booklet written by a Finnish
clergyman Raimo Mäkelä.
He has been working for the Finnish Established
Church. The title of
the book would be in English something like : The
healthy mind as a
mask. It was published in 2001.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes I was aware of this. Much of it, from what I had read in the
past, seems to be part scientific materialist vs. higher states of
consciousness debate.
Yeah, none of the material I cited had anything to
do with
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
File Under: TMO lies and marketing ploys;
I'm not sure the TMO has ever made the claims Wilber
debunks, actually.
Boomeritis Hinduism; Pseudo-
advaita
Answers from biologist and physicist Ken Wilber.
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Ken goes on to suggest that what might be
influencing
quantum realities is not Suchness
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The old addage by Nietzsche, Power corrupts and
absolute power corrupts absolutely.
nitpick
Actually it was by Lord Acton.
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Comments interleaved below.
--- Irmeli Mattsson wrote:
There is a little booklet written by a Finnish
clergyman Raimo Mäkelä.
He has been working for the Finnish Established
Church. The title of
the book would be in English something like : The
healthy mind as a
mask. It was
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hoogeh snippeh
#2: Quantum vacuum potentials are not
I agree with Judy. The TMO is usually not that
excessive in its use of quantum physics metapohors,
but there are individuals with rather concrete
thinking that hvave blurred the metaphor/ experience
distinction.
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He only cites Chopra in the talk--which IMO means, by extension, the TMO.On Jan 22, 2006, at 9:35 AM, authfriend wrote:I'm not sure the TMO has ever made the claims Wilber debunks, actually.
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On Jan 22, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Peter wrote:What do you mean by "works?" The goal of TM is self realization or is it relaxation? Seems like there has always been this public/private split in the teaching. TM is a great relaxation technique but of limited use for self-realization at least in the
On Jan 22, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Peter wrote:I agree with Judy. The TMO is usually not that excessive in its use of quantum physics metapohors, but there are individuals with rather concrete thinking that hvave blurred the metaphor/ experience distinction. Fromm a movement web site. There are entire
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He only cites Chopra in the talk--which IMO means, by extension, the
TMO.
Does it? Chopra left the TMO quite a few years ago. What
works of Chopra does he cite, and when were they published?
On Jan 22, 2006, at 9:35
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 22, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Peter wrote:
I agree with Judy. The TMO is usually not that
excessive in its use of quantum physics metapohors,
but there are individuals with rather concrete
thinking that hvave blurred
On Jan 22, 2006, at 10:42 AM, authfriend wrote:Where do they make the claims that Wilber debunks? The claims listed in your previous post were: --Physics proves God; the Tao finds proof in quantum realities. --Your consciousness creates electrons. --Quantum vacuum potentials are unmanifest
I have experienced many odd coincidences, that could be also explained
as just coincidences. I however think I have too many of them and many
of those really don't feel like a coincidences, even if some I see as
such.
For a few years ago I was participating a vedic recitation weekend
course by
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 22, 2006, at 10:42 AM, authfriend wrote:
Where do they make the claims that Wilber debunks?
The claims listed in your previous post were:
--Physics proves God; the Tao finds proof in quantum
realities.
I have had the same experience many times - and without thinking
what it is, I have used it as a technique for many years. If I
really want something seriously, a job, need for money, whatever, I
wish and forget - and the wishes is fullfilled in some way or
another. I do not know the
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What about the technology of the Unified Field that TM and the
TMSP
is supposed to represent?
I tried and I tried.
I huffed and I
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It's made by Himalaya.
On Jan 22, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Peter wrote:
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Comments interleaved below.
--- Irmeli Mattsson wrote:
There is a little booklet written by a Finnish
clergyman Raimo Mäkelä.
He has been working for the Finnish Established
Church. The title of
From Stuart Hameroff, the collaborator on many of Penrose's papers
on quantum consciousness:
Roger Penrose (1989; 1994; 1996) has proposed that isolated quantum
systems which avoid environmental decoherence will eventually reduce
nonetheless due to an objective threshold (objective reduction -
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
File Under: TMO lies and marketing ploys; Boomeritis Hinduism;
Pseudo-
advaita
Answers from biologist and physicist Ken Wilber.
http://www.tinyurl.com/cmay6
The first question has to do directly with the relation of
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Answers from biologist and physicist Ken Wilber.
In _Path of Light_, Robert Perry says that everyone
wears a mask. He takes this teaching from the Course
in Miracles.
Just got that book, Patrick. :-)
JohnY
Are you studying the Course, or thinking about it?
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From: Michael Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Michael Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Conversation: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth
Subject: Purusha's descent from
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I buy here:
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Here is the companies website with the product and links to their
research:
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Himalaya is an Ayurvedic pharmaceutical
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I buy here:
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Here is the companies website with the product and links to their
research:
On Jan 22, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I buy here: http://www.bdbazar.com/nshop/ Here is the companies website with the product and links to their research: http://www.himalayahealthcare.com/products/tentex.htm
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
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Subject: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth
snip
Purusha administrators will try to
start putting us on airplanes, busses etc. by next
On Jan 22, 2006, at 1:49 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I buy here: http://www.bdbazar.com/nshop/ Here is the companies website with the product and links to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 22, 2006, at 1:49 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
Ooops... never mind... Makaradhwaj is mercury.
Mercury alone is extremely poisonous.
Personally, I don't even trust Ayurcedic mercury rasayana to not be
poisonous to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 22, 2006, at 12:37 PM, authfriend wrote:
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File Under: TMO
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In _Path of Light_, Robert Perry says that everyone
wears a mask. He takes this teaching from the Course
in Miracles.
Just got that book, Patrick. :-)
JohnY
Are you studying the Course, or
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive
substance M and what M. said about it?
Is that the substance that was said to be found
in the bloodstream of TMers and suggested to be Soma?
If so,
On Jan 22, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote:Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive "substance M" and what M. said about it? Is that the substance that was said to be found in the bloodstream of TMers and suggested to be Soma? If so, they were very excited about it at
Offworld :
Roger Penrose (1989; 1994; 1996) has proposed that isolated quantum
systems which avoid environmental decoherence will eventually reduce
nonetheless due to an objective threshold (objective reduction -
OR) related to an intrinsic feature of fundamental spacetime
geometry (see
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have had the same experience many times - and without thinking
what it is, I have used it as a technique for many years. If I
really want something seriously, a job, need for money, whatever, I
wish and forget - and
It is nice when these things happens - in a very natural way. I saw
a perfect yantra in the gap between waking and dreaming state, with
all the deities. I have been looking for it since in all places that
sells yantras, but I have not found it yet.
Ingegerd
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Rick Archer wrote:
From: Michael Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:00:01 -0500
To: Michael Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Conversation: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth
Subject: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth
Late breaking news:
Dear Friends,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 22, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote:
Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive
substance M and what M. said about it?
Is that the substance that was said to be found
in the bloodstream of
--- In
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44. When one contemplates on the center of Universal Consciousness,
what else remains there to be sought in the practice of prana,
apana,
and sushumna?
That's rather interesting. The
In a message dated 1/22/06 1:00:39 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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That --
combined with the stuff about still paying off his student loans and
writing this whole letter in the hopes that someone will pay so that he
can go to Holland and "be close to
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That -- combined with the stuff about still paying
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in the hopes that someone
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That -- combined with the stuff about still paying
off his student loans and writing this whole letter
in the hopes that someone
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 22, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote:
I'm still interested to learn the dates of the works
of Chopra that contained the premises you say Wilber
was debunking (and therefore that those premises were
automatically
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Any U.S.
citizen who is low/no income qualifies for SSI at age 65, regardless of
work history/pay-ins to Social Security. Anybody who is a permanent legal
resident (not a U.S. citizen)
How do you know these things? You're just making stuff up. Where is the
sense of panic you describe? The truth is that you've got the
idea that everyone on Purusha is a sponger and a baby, and so you
automatically read that into this letter. You're as predictable as the TBs you
so
regularly
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do you know these things?
I don't; I merely reported how this letter made me feel.
You're just making stuff up.
No, I merely reported how this letter made me feel. I
suspect many people here felt the same way.
Vaj
How much do you pay for these products? DO they come from overseas or
are they shipped from within the U.S. Would you, uh, be able to talk
about the effectiveness of this product here in FFLife?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I buy here:
did you see that special by Barbara Walters on heaven? She interviewed
people from the Muslim faith and evangelical christians and they both
thought that only their group would go to heaven. What is with this
idea? It sounds like Hitler's white supremacy all over again. It is
really scary to
did you see that special by Barbara Walters on heaven? She interviewed
people from the Muslim faith and evangelical christians and they both
thought that only their group would go to heaven. What is with this
idea? It sounds like Hitler's white supremacy all over again. It is
really scary to
--- jyouells2000 wrote:
CIM always stikes me
as trancending through the intellect, sort of adviata in Christian
terminology.
Perry describes the Course as like a verbal symphony. A
theme comes in and changes shape, them another theme
picks up and starts developing, then a third them comes
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How do you know these things?
I don't; I merely reported how this letter made me feel.
You're just making stuff up.
No, I merely
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
did you see that special by Barbara Walters on heaven? She
interviewed
people from the Muslim faith and evangelical christians and they
both
thought that only their group would go to heaven. What is with this
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Hey! Energol-Ma? I lost your e-mail address
And may we ask why? Lost your love groove?
And its your non-ego that seeks more and greater sexual satisfaction?
Or is it Atman? Or Brahman?
Or poor limp peter?
Does
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did you see that special by Barbara Walters on heaven? She
interviewed
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both
thought that only their group would go to heaven. What is with this
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive
substance M and what M. said about it?
Is that the substance that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/22/06 4:21:27 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Any U.S. citizen who is low/no income qualifies for SSI at age
65,
regardless of work history/pay-ins to Social Security. Anybody
On Jan 22, 2006, at 5:51 PM, anonyff wrote:Vaj How much do you pay for these products? DO they come from overseas or are they shipped from within the U.S. Would you, uh, be able to talk about the effectiveness of this product here in FFLife? I haven't used Energol in a while, but it does what it
On Jan 22, 2006, at 4:46 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 22, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote: Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive "substance M" and what M. said about it? Is that the substance that was
On Jan 22, 2006, at 5:20 PM, authfriend wrote:OK, I've listened to it, and I think you need to listen to it again. The fallacy Wilber is talking about doesn't have anything to do with TM's claims. Perhaps you also need to review what TM claims, for that matter. No that's all right, it's pretty
on 1/22/06 6:30 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And, yeah, I concede that out of the 300-400 people on Purusha there
may be 3 or 4 under a third category (but I doubt it's that high):
self-made individuals who actually worked for a living between TTC
and going on Purusha and are
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--- jyouells2000 wrote:
CIM always stikes me
as trancending through the intellect, sort of adviata in Christian
terminology.
Perry describes the Course as like a verbal symphony. A
theme comes in and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/22/06 4:21:27 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Any U.S. citizen who is low/no income qualifies for SSI at age
65,
regardless of work history/pay-ins to Social Security. Anybody
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on 1/22/06 6:30 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And, yeah, I concede that out of the 300-400 people on Purusha
may be 3 or 4 under a third category (but I doubt it's that high):
self-made
Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive
substance M and what M. said about it?
Is that the substance that was said to be found
in the bloodstream of TMers and suggested to be Soma?
If so, they were very excited about it at one point,
but nothing ever
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The truth is that you've got the
idea that everyone on
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