Hi Rick...
You're right .. these "default" values that you can define in the EDD,
are not as useful as one might hope. They aren't exported to XML and
they don't seem to have much purpose. However, the FDK (and I believe
the EDD itself) can read the default as a value. So a plugin or
structur
You can define a default value for an attribute, but as far as I know
the process of importing an EDD won't change an attribute value from one
thing to another. The "default" value is just the value of the attribute
if it has no other value applied.
I guess the question is, in the statement ..
Stacie,
If I read your message correctly, you have copied the updated master
pages from one file to the rest by selecting the other chapters in the
book window and then using the File > Import > Formats dialog to copy
the "Page Layouts" to all the other files.
But what is not happening is having
Select all files in the book but your first chapter and use File >
Import Formats.
Select page layouts (and whatever else you want to import) and go for
it. That gets the master pages into each chapter file.
However, if the recipient pages have not been set up to use "first,"
after the import, you
Hi Rick...
You're right .. these "default" values that you can define in the EDD,
are not as useful as one might hope. They aren't exported to XML and
they don't seem to have much purpose. However, the FDK (and I believe
the EDD itself) can read the default as a value. So a plugin or
structure
At 12:55 pm -0500 16/12/05, Robert Kern wrote:
>I have a very short book (about 180 pages) that is multiple chapters but is
>currently a single Frame file. I'd like to keep it as a single file, but am
>uncertain how to apply chapter-like chapter/figure/table numbering and page
>numbering if thi
Stacie,
If I read your message correctly, you have copied the updated master
pages from one file to the rest by selecting the other chapters in the
book window and then using the File > Import > Formats dialog to copy
the "Page Layouts" to all the other files.
But what is not happening is having
Select all files in the book but your first chapter and use File >
Import Formats.
Select page layouts (and whatever else you want to import) and go for
it. That gets the master pages into each chapter file.
However, if the recipient pages have not been set up to use "first,"
after the import, you
No slick trick that I'm aware of, Bob.
If you need to change numbering format (roman vs. arabic vs. alpha),
you need to have a file break at that point.
If you're using the $chapnum (and/or $volnum) system variable,
you must have a file break wherever that number needs to increment.
You can get
As you point out, "the only good answer is to break the book into
separate chapters."
If you don't want to take an hour or so to do that, you could probably
spend a day or so kludging work-arounds to solve the problems you want
to solve. For instance, you could substitute a hand-crafted numbering
Hi Bob:
You don't have to break the book into separate chapters for
chapter/appendix/figure/table numbering. That can be handled by setting up
the paragraph formats to work together. Some examples are online at
http://www.travelthepath.com/autonum.html .
The only "have to" reason for breaking i
At 8:32 am -0500 16/12/05, Rick Quatro wrote:
>No apologies necessary: that is what the list is for. Well, it's actually for
>complaints, gripes, etc., but FrameMaker questions are acceptable once in
>awhile.
Many thanks. And much appreciated it is too.
>The best method depends on how differen
You can define a default value for an attribute, but as far as I know
the process of importing an EDD won't change an attribute value from one
thing to another. The "default" value is just the value of the attribute
if it has no other value applied.
I guess the question is, in the statement ..
I have a structured book with about 10 chapters. I want the first
page of each chapter to use master page "first". I have created this
master page in the first chapter, as well as finessed that chapter's
right- and left-hand pages. Is there a way besides manually copying
to apply these pages to
Group: my apologies for hitting the list so hard just recently. I'm under
pressure to complete some work before the holiday break and it's taking me into
unknown territory.
I know that FrameMaker supports conversion rules tables for converting
unstructured documents into structured. But what ab
Rick,
I thought you could do this in the EDD, and you can, but it might depend
on the type of attribute. Search the Structure_Dev_Guide for default
attribute. I only got seven hits. Most of the hits are concerned with
the DTD, but there is a comment that keeps popping up "In FrameMaker, a
default
All,
I have a very short book (about 180 pages) that is multiple chapters but
is currently a single Frame file. I'd like to keep it as a single file,
but am uncertain how to apply chapter-like chapter/figure/table
numbering and page numbering if things are in a single file.
How would I go fro
Robert Kern wrote:
> I have a very short book (about 180 pages) that is multiple
> chapters but is currently a single Frame file. I'd like to
> keep it as a single file, but am uncertain how to apply
> chapter-like chapter/figure/table numbering and page
> numbering if things are in a single
Hi Bob:
You don't have to break the book into separate chapters for
chapter/appendix/figure/table numbering. That can be handled by setting up
the paragraph formats to work together. Some examples are online at
http://www.travelthepath.com/autonum.html .
The only "have to" reason for breaking i
Robert Kern wrote:
> I have a very short book (about 180 pages) that is multiple
> chapters but is currently a single Frame file. I'd like to
> keep it as a single file, but am uncertain how to apply
> chapter-like chapter/figure/table numbering and page
> numbering if things are in a single
I have a structured book with about 10 chapters. I want the first
page of each chapter to use master page "first". I have created this
master page in the first chapter, as well as finessed that chapter's
right- and left-hand pages. Is there a way besides manually copying
to apply these pages to
No slick trick that I'm aware of, Bob.
If you need to change numbering format (roman vs. arabic vs. alpha),
you need to have a file break at that point.
If you're using the $chapnum (and/or $volnum) system variable,
you must have a file break wherever that number needs to increment.
You can get
Rick,
I thought you could do this in the EDD, and you can, but it might depend
on the type of attribute. Search the Structure_Dev_Guide for default
attribute. I only got seven hits. Most of the hits are concerned with
the DTD, but there is a comment that keeps popping up "In FrameMaker, a
default a
Rick,
I thought you could do this in the EDD, and you can, but it might depend
on the type of attribute. Search the Structure_Dev_Guide for default
attribute. I only got seven hits. Most of the hits are concerned with
the DTD, but there is a comment that keeps popping up "In FrameMaker, a
default
As you point out, "the only good answer is to break the book into
separate chapters."
If you don't want to take an hour or so to do that, you could probably
spend a day or so kludging work-arounds to solve the problems you want
to solve. For instance, you could substitute a hand-crafted numbering
At 12:55 pm -0500 16/12/05, Robert Kern wrote:
>I have a very short book (about 180 pages) that is multiple chapters but is
>currently a single Frame file. I'd like to keep it as a single file, but am
>uncertain how to apply chapter-like chapter/figure/table numbering and page
>numbering if thi
All,
I have a very short book (about 180 pages) that is multiple chapters but
is currently a single Frame file. I'd like to keep it as a single file,
but am uncertain how to apply chapter-like chapter/figure/table
numbering and page numbering if things are in a single file.
How would I go f
Rick,
I thought you could do this in the EDD, and you can, but it might depend
on the type of attribute. Search the Structure_Dev_Guide for default
attribute. I only got seven hits. Most of the hits are concerned with
the DTD, but there is a comment that keeps popping up "In FrameMaker, a
default a
Paul Findon wrote:
> ... Apple is still using FrameMaker 6.0 in the Classic environment to
> produce its own user guides
That's true -- apparently using a template with multiple flows that cause
bookmark ordering problems (see http://microtype.com/hmmms.html#0504 which
refers to the Pag
I said...
>I am using one autonumber thread to control stuff that needs to flow through a
>book. I just wanted to check that in this case, i.e. paragraph number threads
>not reset between chapters, there is no alternative to creating a separate
> paragraph clone for all the numbered paragraphs.
At 8:57 am +1100 16/12/05, hedley.finger at myob.com wrote:
>Then set your chapter title numbering as follows:
>
>Chapter\ <$chapnum>< >< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>
>
>The < > placeholder after <$chapnum> is the one you want to continue
>through the book. The < =0> resetters are for the numbe
Steve:
> I am using one autonumber thread to control stuff that needs to flow
> through a book. I just wanted to check that in this case, i.e.
> paragraph number threads not reset between chapters, there is no
> alternative to creating a separate paragraph clone for all the
> numbered paragraphs.
Hi Steve,
No apologies necessary: that is what the list is for. Well, it's actually
for complaints, gripes, etc., but FrameMaker questions are acceptable once
in awhile.
The best method depends on how different the structure is from one EDD to
another. Here are some possible methods.
1) Impor
Hello Framers,
I have a client that wants to know if it is possible to "set all attributes
to default values when the EDD is imported". I suspect that the answer is
no, but I am pretty sure that it can be done with a FrameScript script.
However, I don't want to propose a script if it can be don
Hi Steve,
No apologies necessary: that is what the list is for. Well, it's actually
for complaints, gripes, etc., but FrameMaker questions are acceptable once
in awhile.
The best method depends on how different the structure is from one EDD to
another. Here are some possible methods.
1) Im
At 8:32 am -0500 16/12/05, Rick Quatro wrote:
>No apologies necessary: that is what the list is for. Well, it's actually for
>complaints, gripes, etc., but FrameMaker questions are acceptable once in
>awhile.
Many thanks. And much appreciated it is too.
>The best method depends on how differen
Group: my apologies for hitting the list so hard just recently. I'm under
pressure to complete some work before the holiday break and it's taking me into
unknown territory.
I know that FrameMaker supports conversion rules tables for converting
unstructured documents into structured. But what ab
Hello Framers,
I have a client that wants to know if it is possible to "set all attributes
to default values when the EDD is imported". I suspect that the answer is
no, but I am pretty sure that it can be done with a FrameScript script.
However, I don't want to propose a script if it can be do
Paul Findon wrote:
> ... Apple is still using FrameMaker 6.0 in the Classic environment to
> produce its own user guides
That's true -- apparently using a template with multiple flows that cause
bookmark ordering problems (see http://microtype.com/hmmms.html#0504 which
refers to the Page
At 8:57 am +1100 16/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Then set your chapter title numbering as follows:
>
>Chapter\ <$chapnum>< >< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>
>
>The < > placeholder after <$chapnum> is the one you want to continue
>through the book. The < =0> resetters are for the numbering you
I said...
>I am using one autonumber thread to control stuff that needs to flow through a
>book. I just wanted to check that in this case, i.e. paragraph number threads
>not reset between chapters, there is no alternative to creating a separate
> paragraph clone for all the numbered paragraphs.
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