Re: [Gimp-user] import vs open

2013-02-18 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 19:56 -0800, Richard Gitschlag wrote: > . . . which is also behavior that varies between individual products. Right. -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org

Re: [Gimp-user] import vs open

2013-02-18 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> From: l...@holoweb.net > To: cr33...@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:09:30 -0500 > CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] import vs open > > Or I wasn't clear, I think. It's not really clean vs. dirty, but > whether the canvas is new and unused and empty. E.g. try this i

Re: [Gimp-user] import vs open

2013-02-18 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 14:06 -0600, Chris Mohler wrote: > Current File-Open makes sense as it is, at least to me. File->Save made sense to people too. But if GIMP is an XCF editor that can only save xcf files, being able to open non-xcf files is an obvious bug, a hole in the metaphor. It should o

Re: [Gimp-user] import vs open

2013-02-18 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Chris Mohler wrote: > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Liam R E Quin wrote: >> * File->Open filters to *.xcf* by default; attempting to open a non-xcf >> file brings up a message, "myfile.jpg is not an XCF file. Would you like >> to import it?" > > Current File-Op

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Psiweapon
lmao On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine < alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Daniel Hornung wrote: > > I can't believe this was not brought up by someone already... > > > > https://xkcd.com/1172/ > > > > (Or my mail search function is bro

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Daniel Hornung wrote: > I can't believe this was not brought up by someone already... > > https://xkcd.com/1172/ > > (Or my mail search function is broken, which is possible) It is broken. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Daniel Hornung
I can't believe this was not brought up by someone already... https://xkcd.com/1172/ (Or my mail search function is broken, which is possible) -- Mein öffentlicher Schlüssel / My public key: 4096R/600ACB3B 2012-04-01 Fingerabdruck / Fingerprint: 9902 575B B9A0 C339 CFDF 250B 9267 CA6B 600A CB3B

Re: [Gimp-user] import vs open

2013-02-18 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Liam R E Quin wrote: > * File->Open filters to *.xcf* by default; attempting to open a non-xcf > file brings up a message, "myfile.jpg is not an XCF file. Would you like > to import it?" Current File-Open makes sense as it is, at least to me. After a CTRL-O I don

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Noel Stoutenburg [02-18-13 14:03]: > Christen Anderson wrote: > >It would be interesting to know how many list messages by Maderios are on > >this old, worn-out topic. > The first post I have from Maderios happens to be on this topic in August, > 2012. Since then, he has made 91 posts, which on

Re: [Gimp-user] import vs open

2013-02-18 Thread Burnie West
On 02/18/2013 11:15 AM, Liam R E Quin wrote: * File->Maderios behaves as "open" but when you press Ok it uninstalls GIMP.:-) +1.5 ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread bruno
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 11:26:37 -0700, Christen Anderson wrote: > It would be interesting to know how many list messages by Maderios are on this old, worn-out topic. Please, everyone, complaining is getting you nowhere and is annoying the rest of us who actually have more productive things to do

Re: [Gimp-user] import vs open

2013-02-18 Thread Liam R E Quin
Is it time to have Import for non-xcf files? How about * File->Open filters to *.xcf* by default; attempting to open a non-xcf file brings up a message, "myfile.jpg is not an XCF file. Would you like to import it?" * File->Import behaves as "open as layers" today, unless the image is not dirty,

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 10:34 -0600, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > Sorry, madeiros, but when you write > > maderios wrote: > > When you edit many kinds of files, jpeg, png, xcf, tiff, gif, etc..., > > you can't spend your time to watch and remember which kind of file > > you're working on. > > I'm n

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Christen Anderson wrote: It would be interesting to know how many list messages by Maderios are on this old, worn-out topic. The first post I have from Maderios happens to be on this topic in August, 2012. Since then, he has made 91 posts, which on a cursory review, most, if not all, seem to be

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Christen Anderson
It would be interesting to know how many list messages by Maderios are on this old, worn-out topic. Please, everyone, complaining is getting you nowhere and is annoying the rest of us who actually have more productive things to do. Surely there's a way to block certain email addresses from post

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Sorry, madeiros, but when you write maderios wrote: > When you edit many kinds of files, jpeg, png, xcf, tiff, gif, etc..., > you can't spend your time to watch and remember which kind of file > you're working on. I'm not buying in. Knowing what the final result will be used for is a critical p

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Michael Schumacher
> Von: maderios > On 02/18/2013 04:45 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote: > >> Von: maderios > > > >> 3) These developers have created gimp according to their own practice. > > > > Have a look at http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/GIMP_UI_Redesign > > > > While I wouldn't say that the team are no developer

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Olivier
2013/2/18 maderios : > On 02/18/2013 04:45 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote: >>> >>> Von: maderios >> >> >>> 3) These developers have created gimp according to their own practice. >> >> >> Have a look at http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/GIMP_UI_Redesign >> >> While I wouldn't say that the team are no dev

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 8:08 PM, maderios wrote: > These guys are "architects", they don't need Gimp... > No artists, photographers, designers. > Photoshop was made for professional photographers > That's the difference. It's been pointed out on a number of occasions that the usabilit

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread maderios
On 02/18/2013 04:45 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote: Von: maderios 3) These developers have created gimp according to their own practice. Have a look at http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/GIMP_UI_Redesign While I wouldn't say that the team are no developers, they probably aren't by your definitio

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Michael Schumacher
> Von: maderios > 3) These developers have created gimp according to their own practice. Have a look at http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/GIMP_UI_Redesign While I wouldn't say that the team are no developers, they probably aren't by your definition. Your problem is that this team managed to convi

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 7:13 PM, maderios wrote: >> Assign Ctrl+S to the save/export clean (python plugin), and you have a >> single option. End of problem. > > Done since a long time And so the problem is...? Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread maderios
On 02/18/2013 03:45 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 6:35 PM, maderios wrote: I use everyday "save-export-clean.py" plugin. Its' different from gimp-2.6 and other image editors like Krita, Digikam Showfoto, etc.. behavior. It becomes complicated because you get 5 options

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Cristian Secară wrote: > În data de Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:45:55 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine a > scris: > >> Assign Ctrl+S to the save/export clean (python plugin), [...] >> End of problem. > > It is not end of problem: the python plugin is not translated, so it > does

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Cristian Secară
În data de Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:45:55 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine a scris: > Assign Ctrl+S to the save/export clean (python plugin), [...] > End of problem. It is not end of problem: the python plugin is not translated, so it does not offer a unitary experience for non-english users :p Cristi --

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread maderios
On 02/18/2013 09:37 AM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: Burlen Loring writes: I'm sure the author(s) feels that it's the best thing since sliced bread, however, differentiating between save and export in newer gimp is a ridiculous waste of time. it's so annoying and in efficient that I feel the

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 6:35 PM, maderios wrote: > I use everyday "save-export-clean.py" plugin. Its' different from gimp-2.6 > and other image editors like Krita, Digikam Showfoto, etc.. behavior. It > becomes complicated because you get 5 options : > - save > - save as > - export > - save/export

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread maderios
On 02/18/2013 02:09 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 7:16 AM, Jeffery Small wrote: When a major UI change like this is contemplated, why would it not be implemented as a configuration switch which can be turned on/off on the Preferences menu? In this particular case, a simple switc

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Psiweapon wrote: > My main problem with the export faith is that now, one does not simply > overwrite into a PNG image after enabling transparency. Could you please elaborate on that? Ideally, in a bug report to bugzilla.gnome.org. May the glorious Sikking emanat

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Psiweapon
Heh, I've mostly adapted to the "new ways" - PRAISE BE TO OUR SAVIOR THE EXPORT COMMAND! I AM NO LONGER A HEATHEN BROTHERS! but it's still *very fun *to see this "Smug Developers Vs. The Stupid Backlash that Wouldn't Die" movie franchise unfold in countless installments. My main problem with the e

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread R Kimber
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:37:25 +0100 Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: > 2) use this plugin which implements the old way within GIMP: >http://www.shallowsky.com/software/gimp-save/ > > 3) use the GIMP fork GIMB which reverts the change completely: >https://github.com/mardy/gimb ... but if so d

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Burlen Loring writes: > I'm sure the author(s) feels that it's the best thing since sliced > bread, however, differentiating between save and export in newer gimp > is a ridiculous waste of time. it's so annoying and in efficient that > I feel the need to chime in against it and strongly hope th

Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Daniel Hauck wrote: >> I have certain doubts that you understand the point of free (as in >> speech) software. The reason for my doubts is because you keep talking >> about the character of the giver. >> >> The giver/taker dichotomy is, frankly, artificial. GIMP is