Re: [Talk-GB] Donington Park

2012-05-08 Thread Kevin Peat
Haven't been to Donington for a couple of years but the only recent change to the track itself that I am aware of is them moving the final chicane back a few metres as shown in this image. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Donington_as_of_2010.svg Kevin On 8 May 2012 14:29, SomeoneElse wrote:

Re: [Talk-GB] Garmin eTrex 30 - just reduced on amazon

2012-10-08 Thread Kevin Peat
On Oct 8, 2012 3:15 PM, "Ed Loach" wrote: > > today.. > > Garmin eTrex 30 Outdoor Handheld GPS Unit £157.49 > > Thanks Peter. I've been humming and hahing (however it is spelled) > for ages about whether to get one or not. So I now have, via the > Amazon link here: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/

Re: [Talk-GB] importing house shapes

2012-10-16 Thread Kevin Peat
On Oct 16, 2012 9:15 PM, "Adam Hoyle" wrote: > > Hi Talk-GB, > > Sorry if I'm posting on the wrong list. > > ...I have a huge preference for Potlatch over JOSM... You can get therapy for that :] In JOSM you can press Q after drawing a building to cure the wobbles, not sure if Potlatch has someth

Re: [Talk-GB] Lake District Satellite Imagery

2012-10-22 Thread Kevin Peat
> On Oct 22, 2012 7:07 AM, "wool...@hotmail.com" wrote: > > > > Where i find bing is well out of alignment is in areas with deep Valleys or ranges of mountains, where it matches for a while and then gets distorted. > > +1 on that. In flattish areas the newer Bing images seem fairly well aligned b

Re: [Talk-GB] Office of National Statistics data

2012-10-31 Thread Kevin Peat
On Oct 30, 2012 7:26 PM, "Chris Hill" wrote: > > The UK Office for National Statistics has released some data [1] under the Open Government licence [2] . I've extracted the postcode data from it and created a tile overlay which can help find a postcode for a building in GB, excluding Northern Irel

Re: [Talk-GB] FW: Office of National Statistics data

2012-10-31 Thread Kevin Peat
On 31 October 2012 14:50, Tom Chance wrote: > I think this is quite a confusing approach. Post code searches often end up > returning the wrong street that is also near the centroid, houses that don't > belong to that post code that happen to be nearby, and also weird objects > like trees and car

Re: [Talk-GB] FW: Office of National Statistics data

2012-11-01 Thread Kevin Peat
On 31 October 2012 18:14, Brian Quinion wrote: > > Making this sort of distinction (what can have a postcode) is incredibly > difficult - for instance NCP carparks do have a postcode. > Shame about that, but if someone does a full postcode search and there are OSM objects tagged with that exact p

Re: [Talk-GB] Added road schemes announced in the Autumn Statement in OSM

2012-12-10 Thread Kevin Peat
On Dec 10, 2012 1:25 AM, "Dave F." wrote > > No. We should be mapping physical objects... There are plenty of non-physical objects mapped in OSM but I don't see the point of adding road schemes to the db before contracts are awarded. The South Devon Link Road near me was in the planning stage fo

Re: [Talk-GB] When is a police station not a police station?

2012-12-31 Thread Kevin Peat
On 31 December 2012 09:36, Tom Chance wrote: > Many police services are considering providing front counter services out of > post offices, cafes, supermarkets! + libraries as they have done in my town. > > I would suggest that we continue to use amenity=police both for police > stations and for

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Footpath segmentation

2012-12-31 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Bill, On 30 December 2012 22:52, Bill Chadwick wrote: > > I would be interested to hear how council released prow data has / has not > been used within OSM to add to or replace existing contributed path data. > Hants and Devon have released PROW data but sadly many of the paths in the > New Fo

Re: [Talk-GB] Marking landuse and field boundaries

2012-12-31 Thread Kevin Peat
Steven, On 31 Dec 2012 21:19, "Steven Horner" wrote: > > I mapped a small area with landuse and some fences months ago but refrained from doing anymore because not many others appear to be doing it. You can see what I did here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=54.72508907318115&lon=-1.7569917440

Re: [Talk-GB] Marking landuse and field boundaries

2013-01-01 Thread Kevin Peat
On 1 Jan 2013 20:34, "Richard Fairhurst" > Until then, the advanced mappers must share in OSM's collective > responsibility to keep the project editable by newbies. That's why I believe > widespread farm landuse mapping in the countryside is an actively harmful > indulgence. Couldn't disagree mor

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-23 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Barry, On 23 Jan 2013 16:07, "Barry Cornelius" wrote: > > ... Thanks for your work on this. I've been looking at the Devon data and have integrated a small amount of it local to me. There are a whole bunch of unsurfaced green lanes around here with public access that are not in the dataset.

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-23 Thread Kevin Peat
On 23 Jan 2013 18:58, "Rob Nickerson" wrote: > > ... Thanks for that. Any thoughts on whether they should be specifically tagged in OSM? Kevin ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-23 Thread Kevin Peat
On 23 Jan 2013 19:38, "Rob Nickerson" wrote > > Ideas welcome (I've not seen enough examples to get an understanding of what these roads are actually like on the ground - photos ... This is one: http://m.google.co.uk/u/m/R9HAqI The ones I have surveyed are glorified farm tracks with mostly grav

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-23 Thread Kevin Peat
On 23 Jan 2013 21:42, "Barry Cornelius" wrote: > > Which kml file are you referring to? > > Please give me a URL so that I can download the kml and check... The "Converted kml file for Devon" on this page: http://www.rowmaps.com/kmls/DN/ Kevin ___ Tal

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-24 Thread Kevin Peat
On 23 Jan 2013 23:22, "Barry Cornelius" wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013, Kevin Peat wrote: >> >> The "Converted kml file for Devon" on this page: >> http://www.rowmaps.com/kmls/DN/ > > > Great, thanks. Each path has a name, e.g.: >DN Se

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-24 Thread Kevin Peat
On 24 January 2013 09:09, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > highway=track, access=yes, designation=unclassified_highway ...makes sense to me for those I have seen. These tracks have no signage at all but clearly there are public access rights which would be nice to reflect in osm. Kevin ___

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-24 Thread Kevin Peat
On 24 Jan 2013 11:38, "Barry Cornelius" wrote: > > Please can you confirm that the routes are now better... Thanks for that. I'll check it out and let you know (will probably be tomorrow now). Kevin ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org ht

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-24 Thread Kevin Peat
On 24 Jan 2013 15:02, "Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)" < robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Since the public rights of way tagging using designation=* is a very > British (actually English and Welsh) thing, I doubt it will ever be > rendered on the main OSM map. :-( I don't really see why th

Re: [Talk-GB] PRoW surveying authorities (Was: Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=)

2013-01-25 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Barry, > On 24 Jan 2013 11:38, "Barry Cornelius" wrote: >> >> Please can you confirm that the routes are now better... > The Devon kml data looks spot on now. thanks, Kevin ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreet

Re: [Talk-GB] Fowey estuary coastline problem

2013-01-30 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Jason, On 30 January 2013 08:00, Jason Woollacott wrote: > This relates to some work I did on the Cornish county boundary a while back, > the same also has happened at Newton Ferrers, just south of Plymouth. > I had been meaning to ask you about the boundary changes you made. Is it right that

Re: [Talk-GB] Fw: Fowey estuary coastline problem

2013-01-30 Thread Kevin Peat
data, >> which I took from the gpx trace from Colin's site, >> http://csmale.dev.openstreetmap.org/os_boundaryline/ >> >> I wish I knew the reasoning behind it... I can understand the boundary >> being at the low water mark, but it seems very odd just to draw it across >

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenTrail - Freemap for Android

2013-02-11 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Nick, On 11 February 2013 12:59, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > > If you're interested in trying it out... > I installed the apk on a Nexus 7. The smallish downloadable packaged maps are great and the render is nice and clear which is good for mobile devices. I did notice a couple of things from fi

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenTrail - Freemap for Android

2013-02-11 Thread Kevin Peat
On 11 Feb 2013 18:06, "Nick Whitelegg" wrote: > > ...I'm guessing most pois have a node even if they have an area as well. That might be the case today but I am assuming that as more buildings are added then more and more POI's will just be areas. Mkgmap has a feature to generate POI nodes from

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Kevin Peat
On 20 Feb 2013 19:38, "Dudley Ibbett" wrote: > > ...I certainly wouldn't defend his attitude... > I don't know Mauls from Adam but how would you feel if you had been contributing to the project for five years and someone you'd never heard of sent you an unfriendly message threatening a ban for ad

Re: [Talk-GB] "road names" along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Kevin Peat
On 20 Feb 2013 21:14, "Chris Hill" wrote: > > ...He copied data from a local newspaper article to name a road wrongly... Mauls might be wrong in this case but the name of a road in the local paper isn't copyrighted. It's a basic fact, the newspaper didn't create it and they certainly don't own it

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode data

2013-02-27 Thread Kevin Peat
Aidan, On 27 Feb 2013 09:04, "Andy Allan" wrote: > > Please don't load this data into OpenStreetMap. It's not a good idea. > 100% agree with Andy. To be acceptable your script would need to do at least as good a job as mappers could do by hand which I don't think is possible with only centroids

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode data

2013-02-27 Thread Kevin Peat
Aidan, On 27 February 2013 11:12, Aidan McGinley > ... I've only included the highest quality data > which is postcode centroids that fall within a building within the area of > the postcode... > > Does that allay any concerns about the import? Does the centroid always fall within the postcode ar

Re: [Talk-GB] Dartmoor needs fixing (heath area missing a chunk)

2013-03-01 Thread Kevin Peat
On 28 Feb 2013 23:08, "SomeoneElse" wrote: > > ...looks excellent as a "get away from it all" destination... Bring some good boots as it's pretty muddy after 6 months of rain. Kevin ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openst

Re: [Talk-GB] Dartmoor needs fixing (heath area missing a chunk)

2013-03-01 Thread Kevin Peat
On 1 Mar 2013 13:48, "Dudley Ibbett" wrote: > > Looks like I'm missing something here as I always assumed Dartmoor was a moor, given its name. Is there a reason for moors being tagged as heaths? > http://jncc.defra.gov.uk/protectedsites/sacselection/sac.asp?EUcode=UK0012929 Dartmoor is often de

Re: [Talk-GB] Highways Leading to Farms and single residential properties in rural areas

2013-03-12 Thread Kevin Peat
Dudley, On 11 Mar 2013 21:27, "Dudley Ibbett" wrote: > > Is there a correct answer for this or is it a matter of mapping style? I am leaning towards using Highway=Service for these and keeping Highway=Track for "tracks" that link from fields to farms or roads to fields (i.e. not from roads to fa

Re: [Talk-GB] Messed up buildings in Preston

2013-03-14 Thread Kevin Peat
On 13 Mar 2013 19:37, "Kev js1982" wrote: > > I think some of that may well be me, I've been slowly but surly fixing it, but is compounded by the road network being a complete mess in many places, the difficulty in getting GPS lock to get something to align Bing... > Loading building outlines in

Re: [Talk-GB] Mid Devon Mappers - on your marks...

2013-03-19 Thread Kevin Peat
On 19 March 2013 08:49, Colin Smale wrote: > In case anybody has been updating OSM by removing the apostrophes, you might > need to put them back again... > Most of the councils down here are so strapped for cash that I have been waiting for one of them to argue that as everyone has a satnav we d

Re: [Talk-GB] Possible Boundary Vandalism Warning

2013-03-23 Thread Kevin Peat
Colin, On 23 March 2013 14:24, Colin Smale wrote: > Just wanted to give everyone a heads-up... > > User SemanticTourist has been very busy recently with Neighbourhood Plan > areas, particularly in East/West Sussex, Kent and central England. > He has been adding them to the map in a way that IMHO

Re: [Talk-GB] Named street shown as missing on ITO OSM analysis

2013-03-29 Thread Kevin Peat
Donald, On 29 March 2013 10:36, Donald Noble wrote: > Hullo all, > > Wondering if anyone can shed any light on this. I added a street/name > following a survey a couple of weeks ago, but it is still showing as missing > on the ITO OSM analysis map. > Should be "name = Columba Terrace" not "servi

Re: [Talk-GB] prow_ref

2013-03-29 Thread Kevin Peat
Dudley, On 29 March 2013 15:25, Dudley Ibbett wrote: > Many Thanks > > I'll use the code without the county council letters as this is what is in > the name tag in JOSM. I'll debate as to whether to split the path number > according to the last number as this would require quite a bit of work an

Re: [Talk-GB] OS StreetView Diff + Old StreetView releases

2013-04-07 Thread Kevin Peat
Grant, On 7 Apr 2013 05:14, "Grant Slater" wrote: > ...I would appreciate feedback or encouragement... Good work on this. I find Streetview useful for getting names of places, woods, etc. and occassionally other things in areas where Bing quality or alignment is poor. I always access it as a jo

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM on BBC TV

2013-04-08 Thread Kevin Peat
On 8 April 2013 12:13, Gregory wrote: > ...I think it was this website: > http://www.netweather.tv/indeI think it would be nice to have a wiki page > "OSM spotted in the wild" or "notable OSM use", > x.cgi?action=lightning;sess= > > > No

Re: [Talk-GB] NCN 28?

2013-04-09 Thread Kevin Peat
Richard, On 9 April 2013 09:31, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Hi all, > > Is anyone able to verify the existence or otherwise of NCN 28 from Exeter > to Dartmoor, as shown on OSM right now? > > Ashamed to say I am not at all familiar with NCN 28 despite the low zoom map on Sustrans site showing it

Re: [Talk-GB] NCN 28?

2013-04-09 Thread Kevin Peat
Replying to my own post, On 9 April 2013 10:44, Kevin Peat wrote: > > I assume the open section they are talking about on their website is the > new path and bridge around the back of Newton Abbot racecourse which I have > ridden a couple of times and does I think have some NCN s

Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK

2013-04-11 Thread Kevin Peat
On 11 April 2013 08:12, Andy Mabbett wrote: > No mention of OSM in this piece: > > http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22099960 > > Google has been getting a free pass from the media but now they are making hardware that may change, waiting for the Nexus sweatshop / employee suicide stories to eme

Re: [Talk-GB] NCN 28?

2013-04-20 Thread Kevin Peat
Following up on this, On 9 April 2013 17:15, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Interesting - thanks. That tallies with the Sustrans website and suggests > that the DfT-sourced alignment in OSM right now is wrong (probably an old > proposed route)... > I went up to Newton Abbot yesterday and there are

Re: [Talk-GB] Dartmoor needs fixing (heath area missing a chunk)

2013-04-24 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Jason, On 24 April 2013 11:55, Jason Cunningham wrote: > > I think the problem is back > Is it not just a browser caching issue? Looks okay to me in Firefox and Chromium and I took a look at the way in josm and couldn't see anything wrong. Kevin _

Re: [Talk-GB] Dartmoor needs fixing (heath area missing a chunk)

2013-04-24 Thread Kevin Peat
Brad, On 24 April 2013 16:17, Brad Rogers wrote: > Strange, as I find it to be okay on the French map, and broken on > streetmap.org. > > I assume you mean openstreetmap.org ? Most of the time stale tiles are due to them being cached by the browser. In Firefox you can hold down the CTRL key whi

Re: [Talk-GB] "the brilliant and constantly improving Wikipedia of maps"

2013-04-30 Thread Kevin Peat
On 29 Apr 2013 22:01, "Rovastar" wrote: > > Great however the OSM referenced has been shoehorned in there (not > complaining though), as the cartographers mentioned finding the new 2000ft > "mountain" just seemed to use Ordinance Surveynotably the wrong height > appears on OSM and not updated.

Re: [Talk-GB] Natural England Data

2013-05-01 Thread Kevin Peat
Dudley, On 1 May 2013 19:42, "Dudley Ibbett" wrote: > > Hi > > Am I correct in assuming we cannot use this data. It talks about OGL but also mentions 3rd party and OS (again!!) > > http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/publications/data/ > This dataset was discussed on the list before. I seem to rem

Re: [Talk-GB] Review of Skobbler

2013-05-03 Thread Kevin Peat
Interesting, although "Privacy-conscious Apple fanbois" seems like it might be a very small market and why do the media often call the project "OpenStreetMaps", where does that come from? Kevin On 3 May 2013 10:19, david wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/**2013/05/02/open_source_**mapping

Re: [Talk-GB] Usage of "lanes / turn restrictions" versus "multiple ways" when road is not divided

2013-05-09 Thread Kevin Peat
On 9 May 2013 13:06, David Earl wrote: > > What do people think of this: > > http://osm.org/go/0EQSJEoZT-- (aerial: http://binged.it/10kuDNm ) > > and this: > > http://osm.org/go/eu6_VCkLp-- (aerial: http://binged.it/16js1Ye ) > > These look good to me. I have mapped a number of junctions in a si

Re: [Talk-GB] Hants CC - Open Government Licence & use of data

2013-12-04 Thread Kevin Peat
Robert Norris wrote: > >Case in point (green dots on OS Explorer, sort of track on NPE, nothing >in OS Streetview, perfectly good track for 4x4s (maybe even cars - >memory is fuzzy now) & mountain bikes). >Something I've mapped  (Potlatch2 claims AndyS has modified it - but >then I've never quite

Re: [Talk-GB] Use of leisure=sports_centre at Silverstone etc

2014-02-01 Thread Kevin Peat
> >I believe that Silverstone is also an active airfield. > Only for helicopters on race weekends and for sightseeing trips, the runway was repurposed a few years ago. To complicate things further there is a new university building on the site so you could add campus to the list of possible ta

Re: [Talk-GB] Mappers in Cornwall, Devon, Dorset and Somerset

2008-02-04 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi John, I've very recently started to map my own area, Torbay in South Devon, and the coverage is currently pretty poor with even A roads and the railway not fully mapped. Looking around the rest of the area there is an awful lot to be done although I suppose it depends on exactly what data i

Re: [Talk-GB] Mappers in Cornwall, Devon, Dorset and Somerset

2008-02-06 Thread Kevin Peat
>> Or even Dorset and Somerset (more accessible hence more time for >> mapping >> :-) ) >> > I wasn't sure a mapping party would be ideal as what's most needed is > mapping over a large area (i.e. driving), but it's certainly a > possibility. > >

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping parties - Dec/Jan/Feb

2008-11-26 Thread Kevin Peat
Andy, I live about an hour from Plymouth so could certainly do one day at least whether in December or the New Year sometime. There is a lug (www.dclug.org.uk) covering Devon and Cornwall. According to their members map they have quite a few Plymouth based members so they might be of some use.

Re: [Talk-GB] Clarifying tagging for footway/cycleway etc

2009-03-19 Thread Kevin Peat
Richard Mann wrote: > As a general principle, I think Key:highway should do most of the work. > It should concentrate on describing the physical nature of the way... +1 on this...I also think highway should just describe the physical way so probably just: highway=path|track|road With the rest

Re: [Talk-GB] Clarifying tagging for footway/cycleway etc

2009-03-19 Thread Kevin Peat
Just an idea, practical doesn't come into it ;-> But if "we've always done it that way" wins out every time then the maps we produce probably aren't going to be as useful as they could be. Kevin Tom Hughes wrote: > Kevin Peat wrote: >> Richard Mann wrote

[Talk-GB] maxspeed field - what units should we use. etc

2009-06-04 Thread Kevin Peat
I think we should tag what's on the signs ie. mph, as a conversion to kmh is error prone even without the rounding issues. I've tagged my local roads as maxspeed=20mph|30mph|etc Any application parsing maxspeed values needs to validate the data anyway because like all our data the field could

Re: [Talk-GB] Mentors

2009-07-12 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Jack, Welcome to mapping in the west country. Without any in-depth checking the service roads you've mapped look okay Drawing in a roundabout isn't too hard. Just split the road(s) that you want to insert the roundabout into, draw in a rough circle for the roundabout (doesn't have to be a pe

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 again

2009-08-07 Thread Kevin Peat
> > "these data may contain errors, you can use it at your own risk, but > you can't sue us." > > This whole wikipedia comparison seems bogus to me. Kids use wikipedia to do their homework, people don't trust their lives to it like they do with maps every day of the week. I've used an OS map many

Re: [Talk-GB] building shapes from OS Street View

2010-04-05 Thread Kevin Peat
In the absence of vector data I agree that a controlled way of auto-tracing the building outlines (a JOSM plug-in would be ideal for me) is the way to go. For my area, unless something like this comes along there will never be building outlines in OSM as the local demographics mean mappers are in

Re: [Talk-GB] OS StreetView accuracy: caution!

2010-04-09 Thread Kevin Peat
On 9 April 2010 18:40, Robert Scott wrote: > Hasn't one of OSM's (many) mantras been "doesn't matter if it's > approximate: someone can always improve it later" or "rough is better than > nothing"? Sure, some of the OS data is rough, but it is better than nothing, > and quite good for a first pa

Re: [Talk-GB] Using OS Shapefiles

2010-05-11 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Chris, Thanks for this, very helpful. I just followed this through and converted data for some woods near me and it all worked okay apart from your ogr2ogr command line has the output and input files around the wrong way (gdal 1.7.2). Kevin On 11 May 2010 18:28, Chris Hill wrote: > Tim

Re: [Talk-GB] Offsets between OS and OSM data (was Building with mapseg)

2010-05-30 Thread Kevin Peat
I'm in Devon and I see the same thing although whether it is just the SW I don't know. The Streetview tiles (as I see them in JOSM) are all offset to the SE by 5-10 metres. I've converted some woods in my area from the VectorDistrict data using this process, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki

Re: [Talk-GB] Strange Search Result in Devon or should that be Kelland Cross?

2010-07-06 Thread Kevin Peat
Ed, > In fact, I don't think it should even be that. In rural Devon it is common > for > crossroads to be named - you can see the name on the side of the crossroad > sign. > This doesn't necessarily indicate a 'locality', although sometimes there > are > small villages or hamlets named after a c

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging gates on cycle path

2010-07-20 Thread Kevin Peat
I think barrier=gate is more for open/closing gates across a highway (like a farm gate for instance) whereas barrier=cycle_barrier is for the typical offset barrier you see on paths/cycleways. Also tagging the barrier node as bicycle=yes|true might help the routing. Kevin On 20 July 2010 18:11,

Re: [Talk-GB] Use of OS OpenData in OSM

2010-07-22 Thread Kevin Peat
Nice work, but as the OS data is a good dataset and compatible with our current license why would anyone be surprised that people are using it. I've uploaded woods and waterways for my area so it looks pretty blue but the streets were surveyed on the ground and I would think that might be the same

Re: [Talk-GB] Why I'm not currently using OS Opendat as a source WAS The last 2%

2010-08-22 Thread Kevin Peat
> However, that doesn't change the fact that the OS OpenData license is > incompatible with the contributor terms, and DbCL, and quite possibly > ODbL too. > > I thought this was still to be confirmed? It may not be that important to townies but there is a lot of value in the OS data for rural map

Re: [Talk-GB] Dorset/Wilts county boundary wrong...is there adefinitive source?

2010-09-08 Thread Kevin Peat
Until the issue of whether the OS datasets can be used under the new license/CT is resolved it seems a bit pointless doing anything like this whatever the merits might be. Especially as deleting the existing boundaries and replacing them with OS data would break the history chain and must (I assume

Re: [Talk-GB] Dorset/Wilts county boundary wrong...is there adefinitive source?

2010-09-08 Thread Kevin Peat
On 8 September 2010 10:07, 80n <80n...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Kevin Peat wrote: > >> Until the issue of whether the OS datasets can be used under the new >> license/CT is resolved it seems a bit pointless doing anything like this >>

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Bike Shop dataset obtained: please merge in locations in your area

2010-09-15 Thread Kevin Peat
Yes, that was exactly the same for me so local knowledge is definitely required. Kevin On 14 September 2010 21:44, Richard Mann < richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com> wrote: > At least one of the ones round here is the home/workshop of a roving > bike mechanic, so treat the data with care!

Re: [Talk-GB] How to split the OS VectorMap District NaturalFeature_Line data into smaller squares?

2010-09-30 Thread Kevin Peat
Rather than splitting the data into smaller squares, I used the process described on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Using_OS_Shapefiles to extract specific things, in my case waterways and woods. You just extract the features you want in QGIS and the Python scripts can easily be modified to add

Re: [Talk-GB] How to split the OS VectorMap District NaturalFeature_Line data into smaller squares?

2010-09-30 Thread Kevin Peat
the streams are in many multiple segments so the > process described doesn't really work. > So I'm just trying to find an alternative. > When OGR2OSM works, the results are good enough (to then modify with JOSM). > > > > On 30/09/2010 09:15, Kevin Peat wrote: > >&

[Talk-GB] Fwd: Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes

2010-11-05 Thread Kevin Peat
Post to list as well -- Forwarded message -- From: Kevin Peat Date: 5 November 2010 09:27 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO - apostrophes To: Ed Avis On 4 November 2010 14:23, Ed Avis wrote: > I am sorry to reopen this topic but I th

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO -apostrophes

2010-11-05 Thread Kevin Peat
On 5 November 2010 12:38, wrote: > Aren't there two separate issues here:- > > 1) Disagreements between OS and OSM, > > 2) Representation of those disagreements in the tools. > > I'm quite happy with the ITO tools as they are but if they had the resources to render another map layer without the a

Re: [Talk-GB] oscompare

2010-11-05 Thread Kevin Peat
It gets updated most days but from my observation is a day or two behind in picking up changes. Kevin On 5 November 2010 15:03, Nikolay Metchev wrote: > I have only recently found the oscompare website as a result of > joining this mailing list. > http://oscompare.raggedred.net/ > I was wonder

Re: [Talk-GB] Quiet lanes and "one car per minute"

2011-01-20 Thread Kevin Peat
Richard, I think in my part of the SW the large majority of highway=unclassified would be <=1 car a minute average so just from a tagging perspective it would be a lot easier just tagging those few that are busier. Kevin On 20 January 2011 12:48, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Hi all, > > Sen

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode centroids

2011-01-21 Thread Kevin Peat
Hello Chris, I was wondering why you don't see any value in just adding the postcode centroids to the map? There are probably 25000+ buildings in my area so it isn't feasible for me to add them all and their addresses in less than a lifetime whereas adding the postcode centroids would surely allo

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode centroids

2011-01-21 Thread Kevin Peat
So I should delete the various admin boundaries in the db then as they cannot be viewed on the ground? That's great for Nominatim but what if I want to find a postcode on my Garmin? Kevin On 21 January 2011 09:58, Tom Hughes wrote: > > Because postcode centroids are not real - they don't ex

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode centroids

2011-01-21 Thread Kevin Peat
I > think that is fairly rare. > > > > Ed > > > > *From:* Kevin Peat [mailto:ke...@kevinpeat.com] > *Sent:* 21 January 2011 09:52 > *To:* Chris Hill > *Cc:* Talk-GB > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode centroids > > > > Hello Chris, > > I was wonde

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode centroids

2011-01-21 Thread Kevin Peat
:46, Chris Hill wrote: > On 21/01/11 09:51, Kevin Peat wrote: > >> Hello Chris, >> >> I was wondering why you don't see any value in just adding the postcode >> centroids to the map? >> >> There are probably 25000+ buildings in my area so it isn't fe

Re: [Talk-GB] pay_scale_area

2011-02-02 Thread Kevin Peat
I don't think this data serves any useful purpose. The polygon for my area cut right across the middle of arbitrary areas so I deleted it a long time ago. I've never had any feedback on that so assume no-one was using it. Kevin On 2 February 2011 10:40, Bob Kerr wrote: > Hi, > > I am presen

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding a further 250, 000 UK roads quickly using a Bot?

2011-02-04 Thread Kevin Peat
I agree with you 100% on this. I think if OSM is street-level complete (preferably with postcodes as well) then it will be picked up by a lot more developers for their iPhone and Android apps and the amount of feedback we could get would be a 100 times greater than now. A standardised, OSM hosted,

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding a further 250, 000 UK roads quickly using a Bot?

2011-02-04 Thread Kevin Peat
Richard, I don't think we need a bot for this as the current tools seem quite adequate to me. If the missing streets are added this year then that would be great. Building a community is ideal but I think outside the "successful" parts of the country we are not going to get a lot of people wantin

Re: [Talk-GB] Incorrect use of OS VectorMap District when mapping?

2011-02-09 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Jason, I am the mapper (user:devonshire) who imported the woods in your first example around Dartmouth but it was last May so not exactly recently. The woods that are there now are a lot better than the NPE traced ones that we had before. I took the view at the time that importing the VectorMap

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-13 Thread Kevin Peat
He added these tags to some dual carriageway in my area that already had speed limit tags. I was just going to delete them as they seem pointless. Anyone know otherwise? Kevin On 13 Mar 2011 12:28, "Dave F." wrote: > > Hi > > You've probably seen the numerous edits by chriscf. Can anyone explain

Re: [Talk-GB] inferred single-carriageway NSL?

2011-03-16 Thread Kevin Peat
On 16 March 2011 17:00, Peter Miller wrote: > > > > Then there are the '30mph' which should for consistency be '30 mph' (with a > space). > I don't see the point of editing just for consistency. Developers should handle leading/trailing spaces, or the lack thereof, and different capitalisation,

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread Kevin Peat
On 24 March 2011 16:08, Luke Smith wrote: > Good points there - that description is pretty useless without a map to go > with it. > > Previously, I would have argued that in some cases the fact there was a > right of way was important. It's common to see a PRoW on a map that follows > a perfectly

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread Kevin Peat
On 24 March 2011 16:56, Ed Avis wrote: > > You could use something like > >designation=public_footpath >highway=no >note=Although a right of way, there is no path on the ground. > > Would work I guess. The only problem is that if there is no path on the ground the only way you can eas

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapdust Newbie Question

2011-03-29 Thread Kevin Peat
On 29 March 2011 17:14, Kev js1982 wrote: > I think the roundabout symbol is where the user raised the bug - MapDust > seams a rather apt name in my experience though - Dust doesn't serve any > useful purpose (in reality) and neither does mapdust's bugs. > > Kev > > Despite the low signal to noi

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapdust Newbie Question

2011-03-29 Thread Kevin Peat
Well I find it encouraging that people are using OSM otherwise what is the point of us making it? The fact they are too stupid to work a satnav is probably true as most members of the crowd are unfortunately idiots. The mapdust folks just need to take that into account by stopping people raising bu

Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

2011-05-05 Thread Kevin Peat
On 5 May 2011 11:41, Brad Rogers wrote: > > getting people interested in (say) the southwest? > > > area, and the National Parks. Time for some footpath parties, or > There's me, living just off Exmoor. Time limited, but I do what I can. > > Ditto myself, around Torbay and on Dartmoor. We'll hav

Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" on Dartmoor

2017-09-25 Thread Kevin Peat
On 25 September 2017 17:13:01 BST, ael wrote: >On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 01:36:22PM +0100, SK53 wrote: >> Moor (or possibly fell) covers a decent amount of Corine data >imported >> across Europe as natural=heath. In effect natural=heath on OSM no >longer >> means heath. It may mean any of the follow