Re: [Vo]:Help in testing a E-Cat

I have always been a Black Box kind of guy and approached problem solving in a binary divide and conquer approach. That way you make little assumptions and just go with what the test data shows as the incorrect or correct pathway. I fully expect to sign a NDA and to put money into an Escrow ac

Re: [Vo]:Help in testing a E-Cat

I'm with Robert L. I don't think you will ever be offered a test. But if you are, I'll be happy to talk with you by phone and make very detailed suggestions for making sure your tests are valid --if you'd like. The first and foremost suggestion is to allow Rossi to supply NOTHING except the E-ca

Re: [Vo]:Gain from the "cold side"

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > If you do, you certainly must draw your paycheck from CERN. God! I wish! Please someone, PAY ME! I will tell you where to send the check. Just don't contact me from Nigeria!

Re: [Vo]:How should I demonstrate LENR, if I can reproduce it?

Several others are working on independent ecat tests, and would be willing to collaborate, ecatbuilder.com and myself for starters. Other people floating around the scene. -DrowningTrout On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > I'm currently working on a design but have not ye

Re: [Vo]:How should I demonstrate LENR, if I can reproduce it?

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Well I do hope he will sell a 100 kW plant to me. > I do too. If you get a test schedule and you want my help, I'll go with you if the test terms are reasonable and you can provide your own equipment entirely except for the E-cat and t

Re: [Vo]:To Aussie Guy - Please request a control E-Cat to be used!

In all of Rossi's public demos, he has always added the hydrogen during the start of the test-- in fact he measured the cylinder weight before and after to estimate the consumption. On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > I doubt that would work as the "control" E-Cat may hav

Re: [Vo]:Help in testing a E-Cat

Amazing statements. Again with no basis in fact. Just more straw man totally negative spin stuff. I've been a power system engineer for probably longer than you have been alive. I do know how to construct a test of the E-Cat. I have also been used by several patent attorneys and investor groups

Re: [Vo]:Steam Quality Revisted -- Kettle Boiler

Joshua refering to wikipaedia: "The quality of steam can be quantitatively described by steam quality (steam dryness), the proportion of saturated steam in a saturated water/steam mixture. [4] i.e., a steam quality of 0 indicates 100% water while a steam quality of 1 (or 100%) indicates 100% steam.

[Vo]:

My Dear Friends. It is Sunday again and, being still functional, I am sending you the issue No. 482 of the INFORMAVORE's SUNDAY. http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/11/informavores-sunday-no-482.html I would be enchanted if you could use this hopefully good information to alleviate a bit the

Re: [Vo]:How should I demonstrate LENR, if I can reproduce it?

Am 20.11.2011 02:28, schrieb Daniel Rocha: Suppose I can do it, just like Rossi claims. I dont want to have to leave home nor have to heat tons of water. What should I do? The problem is to make the energy visible. Heat a known amount of water in an open vaporizer. Let the steam go out of the

Re: [Vo]:How should I demonstrate LENR, if I can reproduce it?

I'm happy to replicate the 6 Oct 2011 test setup. In fact I'll insist on it as then I know what to expect. I'll bring temp, water flow and power input monitoring equipment, plus the digital cro and the data logger. I'm not initially interested in self sustain mode but will insist on at least 24

[Vo]:Defkalion GT interview with tovima.gr

Defkalion GT interview with tovima.gr We not only continue our program and we are almost ready, with technology that precedes that of Rossi during a year. Specifically, within the next 15 days there will be announcements and initiated testing and certification by independent third parties. We will

[Vo]:Rossi meeted Piantelli, seeking his cooperation?

http://www.tovima.gr/science/article/?aid=430840 Its in greek language and letters, I used Google translate. They write: *2007:* Rossi meets Piantelli and seek its cooperation. He *refuses,* but Rossi associate itself with the Focardi. This could explain their hostility and competition. Peter

Re: [Vo]:Rossi meeted Piantelli, seeking his cooperation?

On 2011-11-20 12:25, Peter Heckert wrote: They write: *2007:* Rossi meets Piantelli and seek its cooperation. He *refuses,* but Rossi associate itself with the Focardi. This is a really important piece of information if confirmed, thanks for sharing. Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:Help in testing a E-Cat

Am 20.11.2011 09:47, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat: Amazing statements. Again with no basis in fact. Just more straw man totally negative spin stuff. I've been a power system engineer for probably longer than you have been alive. I do know how to construct a test of the E-Cat. I have also been used

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT interview with tovima.gr

Sounds like a war for LENR customers has started and in any war truth is the first causality. Nothing like competition to quickly bring LENR devices to the boil, so to speak. Wonder when the Piantelli Group, the Americans and the Japanese will jump into the LENR pot? I bet not long. I like the

[Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.

In this TEDx event: Focardi says, that no neutrons where observed. Gamma radiation /not much above ambient level/ was observed. So it seems they added the lead shield only for security, but not for protection and therm

Re: [Vo]:Help in testing a E-Cat

A working and reliable product with back-up and support is everything. I'm a Black Box kind of guy who has been a engineer long enough to know that both devices are very early stage work in progress. I don't expect to see what I would see if I visited ABB or GE. Have opened up a channel to Defk

Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration

On 20-Nov-11 02:14, Terry Blanton wrote: On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: in Google scholar and got only 5 pages of returns, none of which was relevant. I did the same for "kidney failure" chlorine drinking water and got 900+ returns. However, most have to do with eliminati

Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.

More here: http://radio.rcdc.it/wp-content/uploads/Focardi-english-version.pdf AG On 11/20/2011 10:48 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: In this TEDx event: Focardi says, that no neutrons where observed. Gamma radiation /not

Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.

Am 20.11.2011 15:23, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat: More here: http://radio.rcdc.it/wp-content/uploads/Focardi-english-version.pdf Thank you. I have seen this before, but as an italian video with english subtitles on youtube. There is something that most coldfusion researchers say and Focardi sa

[Vo]:The absurd theater of 10/28

So, Rossi faked everything in an absurd way: 1.Hired actors to pretend to be technicians, but they sit there doing nothing all day long, since early morning, and only 1 showed up to the public, almost at midnight. 2.Use a 470KW generator to feed a water heating machine that only works at 70KW. 3.P

Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.

Am 20.11.2011 15:23, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat: More here: http://radio.rcdc.it/wp-content/uploads/Focardi-english-version.pdf I am a little bit concerned about his mental fitness: [Female interviewer] And then how do you turn it off in hot weather? (Laughs) At some point in the past, as the d

Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.

You did read Focardi's comments on the radiation and the transmutations: "/*So, if gamma [radiation] is emitted in one direction, the nickel goes in the opposite direction, like a cannon recoiling when it is fired. Therefore nickel releases energy into the medium. And so does gamma — I mean th

Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.

Am 20.11.2011 16:43, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat: You did read Focardi's comments on the radiation and the transmutations: We went to Padova, where they have the appropriate instrument: we found copper. Copper has two isotopes, the ratio between the two is not in the concentration found in Nature

Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.

Do you understand Italian? I don't and take that translation as being generally representative of what Focardi said but not what he actually said or in the context he said it. I have a lot of Italian friends and they talk more with their hands, face and gestures than their voice. Especially if

Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.

Other papers I have read mentioned non natural Cu isotope ratios. However you suggestion may be a valid pathway, unless the H2 line is filtered against such fine metal dust. AG On 11/21/2011 2:25 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 20.11.2011 16:43, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat: You did read Focardi's

Re: [Vo]:Help in testing a E-Cat

I look forward to seeing your postings when you return. You are being cautious as you should by relying upon the escrow account and Rossi is wise in proposing this procedure. There should be no major surprises. My concern is that the control electronics may not quite be up to par yet, but I t

Re: [Vo]:Steam Quality Revisted -- Kettle Boiler

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: > Joshua refering to wikipaedia: "The quality of steam can be quantitatively > described by steam quality (steam dryness), the proportion of saturated > steam in a saturated water/steam mixture. [4] i.e., a steam quality of 0 > indicates 100%

Re: [Vo]:Focardi talking about Gamma radiation.

Am 20.11.2011 16:56, schrieb Aussie Guy E-Cat: As for the hydrogen issue, I expect selling a home / commercial space heater than contains a bottle of pressurized Hydrogen might be a hard sell. Insurance companies would have to reassess their risk. I do agree with the Hydrogen association. May

Re: [Vo]:How should I demonstrate LENR, if I can reproduce it?

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > I'm happy to replicate the 6 Oct 2011 test setup. In fact I'll insist on > it as then I know what to expect. I'll bring temp, water flow and power > input monitoring equipment, plus the digital cro and the data logger. I'm > not initially

Re: [Vo]:Help in testing a E-Cat

Those are excellent suggestions. One consideration about the flow rate. Since you are ordering and I presume testing a 100 kW system, the delta temperature will be many times larger than the one tested on October 6 at the rate used then. I suggest that it would be wise to set the output flow

[Vo]:To me, this is scary

To me this statement made by Professor Levi about the 18 hour test he and Rossi did is scary: http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3108242.ece “/*Minimum power was 15 kilowatts, and that’s a conservative value. I calculated it several times. At night we did a measurement and

Re: [Vo]:Help in testing a E-Cat

I wish you the best in your efforts. Is it confirmed yet? Personally I think Rossi has moved LENR ahead and has something very exciting, but not yet ready for prime time. (I am excited by defkalion-energy's statements and I suspect they have moved Rossi's invention even farther.) You clearly kno

Re: [Vo]:Help in testing a E-Cat

On 2011-11-20 08:08, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: I have just emailed Rossi with my interest in purchasing a 100 kW E-Cat plant. [...] Just to be clearer: have you only asked Rossi that you're interested in purchasing an E-Cat plant, or has he already replied back and agreed for a meeting? Cheer

Re: [Vo]:How should I demonstrate LENR, if I can reproduce it?

My understanding is the coolant did, in Feb, go around the single Door Knob style reactor core but it no longer does. IE the heat radiation fins and the 3 cores embedded in lead. I have no real issues using a heat exchanger as long as I get a real time digital readout of the water flow rate int

Re: [Vo]:How should I demonstrate LENR, if I can reproduce it?

OK, so I got a bit frustrated when the white flag was spit upon. I admit that and I am sorry. I guess I do not recall making a big deal about agents of Big Oil, since I do not think that they are keyed into the future yet. Reset that thought if you think it was one of my beliefs. We are in

[Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

Original URL: http://www.tovima.gr/science/article/?aid=430840 Somewhat garbled Google translate: *http://tinyurl.com/6mszlt4* So they claim they paid Rossi $15 million if I understand it right. If it's true, he should have been able to fund U of B research for some

Re: [Vo]:Help in testing a E-Cat

COP 6 powered mode. The first test I will request is of a single E-Cat module and then when the 100 kW plant is ready to roll out, return to do another test. I expect to learn a lot in the first test and will be better able to tailor the 100 kW test protocol. We are on the same page with the 25

[Vo]:So Rossi has a real Ph.D. obtained in 1975

At http://ecat.com/inventor-andrea-rossi there is a scanned statement from the University of Milan: > UNIVERSITÀ DEGLI STUDI DI MILANO > > Registrato al numero 582 > > Matricola 89930 > > Si attesta risultare dagli atti di questa Segreteria che il Sig. > ROSSI ANDREA nato a Milano il 03/06/1950, h

Re: [Vo]:Gain from the "cold side"

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 2:16 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: > Right, because hot fusion is known to work. High energy nuclear reactions work. Low energy nuclear reactions work. Medium energy nuclear reactions work. Ain't nature wonderful?! T

Re: [Vo]:Help in testing a E-Cat

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > COP 6 powered mode. The first test I will request is of a single E-Cat > module and then when the 100 kW plant is ready to roll out, return to do > another test. I expect to learn a lot in the first test and will be better > able to tailor

Re: [Vo]:So Rossi has a real Ph.D. obtained in 1975

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Berke Durak wrote: > > So where does all this disinformation about Rossi being a chalatan > with a fake PhD from a diploma mill coming from? > I'd have to look it up and it's not terribly important but Rossi's real PhD is in philosophy. He claimed at one time th

Re: [Vo]:Help in testing a E-Cat

As I stated, I have sent an introductory and request to purchase a 100 kW plant email to i...@leonardocorp1996.com with details of the existing business structure and the proposed business model. I expect it will take several days to get an initial reply and to start the NDA / contract / agreed

Re: [Vo]:Help in testing a E-Cat

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > As I stated, I have sent an introductory and request to purchase a 100 kW > plant email to i...@leonardocorp1996.com with details of the existing > business structure and the proposed business model. I expect it will take > several days to

Re: [Vo]:So Rossi has a real Ph.D. obtained in 1975

It always seemed to me an honorary diploma from an university that later turned out to lose its accreditation, not that was phony. 2011/11/20 Mary Yugo > > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Berke Durak wrote: > >> >> So where does all this disinformation about Rossi being a chalatan >> with a f

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

It says they had $15 million ready but Rossi did not complete the contract. That means they never paid Rossi the money and now they seem to be claiming the technology is all theirs. "- *So the rift between you was not due only to non-payment of first installment repayment, said Mr. Rossi?* /

[Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

E-cat guy reports that he may be able to purchase an e-cat, and he asked for advice about how to test it. I feel strongly about this, because I have spent months in on-again, off-again negotiations to perform a test. Since I am a veteran of failed attempts I feel I have special knowledge of how not

Re: [Vo]:Help in testing a E-Cat

On 2011-11-20 18:07, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: As I stated, I have sent an introductory and request to purchase a 100 kW plant email to i...@leonardocorp1996.com with details of the existing business structure and the proposed business model. I expect it will take several days to get an initial rep

Re: [Vo]:To me, this is scary

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > > /*Initially, the temperature of the inflowing water was seven degrees > Celsius and for a while the outlet temperature was 40 degrees Celsius. A > flow rate of about one liter per second, equates to a peak power of 130 > kilowatts. The p

Re: [Vo]:Help in testing a E-Cat

I have been in business long enough to understand NDAs. I have my own for Rossi to sign as well and it has teeth as I'm sure his does. Then there are the product warranties and guarantees and what happens if a breach / default event occurs, which we will draft. It may be only $200k but it is my

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: > Original URL:   http://www.tovima.gr/science/article/?aid=430840 > > Somewhat garbled Google translate:  http://tinyurl.com/6mszlt4 Did you see the test chamber at the end of the article? T

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > Do not listen to any advice from skeptics. > Yikes! Yes, by all means -- also be sure to ignore all the history of spectacular multi million dollar scams that resulted from involving only believers.

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

There is also the part about the escrow account. 2011/11/20 Mary Yugo > Original URL: http://www.tovima.gr/science/article/?aid=430840 > > Somewhat garbled Google translate: > *http://tinyurl.com/6mszlt4* > > So they claim they paid Rossi $15 million if I understa

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

Terry Blanton wrote: > Did you see the test chamber at the end of the article? > That looks like one of Piantelli's experiments. Not sure, but I think that's what it is. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > Original URL: http://www.tovima.gr/science/article/?aid=430840 > > > > Somewhat garbled Google translate: http://tinyurl.com/6mszlt4 > > Did you see the test chamber at the end of th

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

They are technologically skilled, good engineers and have refused to pay for an immature and unsafe product. Excess heat is only a necessary, but not a sufficient condition for an Energy Source. Rossi's E-cat has worked (was functional) but did not worked well. Defkalion, it seems, has defined the

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

Mary Yugo wrote: > > Do not listen to any advice from skeptics. >> > > Yikes! Yes, by all means -- also be sure to ignore all the history of > spectacular multi million dollar scams that resulted from involving only > believers. > I meant technical advice, such as "you must do a blank when test

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On 2011-11-20 18:30, Jed Rothwell wrote: That looks like one of Piantelli's experiments. Not sure, but I think that's what it is. I think that is a photograph of the very expensive equipment Piantelli uses to make his nickel powder. I remember seeing that somewhere else. Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

Peter Gluck wrote: They are technologically skilled, good engineers and have refused > to pay for an immature and unsafe product. > Who are they? Who refused to pay, for what? I don't see that in the article. This translation is remarkably good, for a machine. A little hard to follow in places

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > On 2011-11-20 18:30, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > That looks like one of Piantelli's experiments. Not sure, but I think >> that's what it is. >> > > I think that is a photograph of the very expensive equipment Piantelli > uses to make his nicke

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

Akira Shirakawa wrote: > I think that is a photograph of the very expensive equipment Piantelli > uses to make his nickel powder. I remember seeing that somewhere else. > Powder, or bulk Pd? I have some similar photos from Piantelli taken many years ago. This is the kind of professional grade

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > I meant technical advice, such as "you must do a blank when testing > industrial-scale equipment." > Yes. Don't run a blank. Don't check the measurement method. Just trust Rossi's word that his heat exchanger evaluat

[Vo]:OT: "The Genius of the Crowd" by Charles Bukowski

"The Genius of the Crowd" by Charles Bukowski (poetry reading) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPzWLPAxn1o Harry

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

The test chamber is indeed very similar to Piantelli's high vacuum installation of Molecular Beam Epitaxy (see my 3rd paper abou Piantelli in my Blog). The Greek installation is: " The engine configuration of the grains of Nickel in vacuum" i.e. has the same function- manufacture of Ni nanoclusters

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

I appreciate your advise and one thing an old engineer learns is to never reinvent the wheel. I have learned to leverage other peoples experience and knowledge. If I get to the first test of a single E-Cat module and Rossi doesn't throw a hissy fit, you are invited but your costs are yours. Nev

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

Mary Yugo wrote: > So it's inappropriate for Defkalion (or the magazine article writers) to > make use of it without attribution. > I expect a copy editor misplaced the caption. You should not make accusations of nefarious behavior every time a magazine makes a minor error. > It's also inapp

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

Since you are going there during winter, as Rossi to install an ecat for an open field camping, in front of his assembling factory, and stay there for 1 week, with heating. 2011/11/20 Aussie Guy E-Cat > I appreciate your advise and one thing an old engineer learns is to never > reinvent the whee

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On 2011-11-20 18:44, Peter Gluck wrote: The test chamber is indeed very similar to Piantelli's high vacuum installation of Molecular Beam Epitaxy (see my 3rd paper abou Piantelli in my Blog). It looks like the very same one to me: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2008/29img/PiantelliKnudsenMac

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

Mary Yugo wrote: Yes. Don't run a blank. Don't check the measurement method. Just trust > Rossi's word that his heat exchanger evaluates the enthalpy properly. Take > it on faith. That's not what I said, is it? You have a remarkable talent for distortion, red herrings, and putting words in

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Peter Gluck wrote: > > They are technologically skilled, good engineers and have refused >> to pay for an immature and unsafe product. >> > > Who are they? Who refused to pay, for what? > > I don't see that in the article. > > This translati

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

As the purchaser, he who has the Gold, (always remember the Golden Rule, "He who has the Gold makes the Rules") we will issue the purchase order, with our acceptance test, performance, delivery, warranty / guarantee and other conditions such as any disputes will be heard in an Australian court.

Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:01 AM, MJ wrote: > >I had kidney stones until I discovered NQI: > > > http://www.gauerdobrasil.com.**br/produtos-detalhe-nqi.htm > > Mark Jordan > The advice on that page is rather general. What part o

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > I do remember the hole in the roof P&F experienced and that was a pissy > weak reactor compared to what Rossi has developed. The table and the floor, not the roof. I asked Martin what the hell happened to the materials from the table and the floor. Did they save samp

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: As the purchaser, he who has the Gold, (always remember the Golden Rule, > "He who has the Gold makes the Rules") Amen. > we will issue the purchase order, with our acceptance test, performance, > delivery, warranty / guarantee and other conditions such as any dispute

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > That's not what I said, is it? You have a remarkable talent for > distortion, red herrings, and putting words in people's mouth. Let me > repeat what I said: > Please let me repeat what you said: "I meant technical advice, such as "you mu

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

24 hours of COP 6 powered mode operation from a single E-Cat reactor, driving steam into a heat exchanger with 1 second data logging is fine by me. One engineer in Nasa may not agree but that is his opinion and not mine. I'm more concerned about shutting down a runaway reactor as Murphy and I a

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > > It looks like the very same one to me ... Same photo. > Thanks! That issue is resolved! So what does it have to do with Defkalion other than to puff up the publication's piece? Anyone know?

RE: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

The article mentions Piantelli's new patent. I would assume that the author ran across the photo during that aspect of research, and failed to properly attribute it to Piantelli's nickel production. Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 10:08:08 -0800 Subject: Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in G

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Akira Shirakawa > wrote: >> >> It looks like the very same one to me ... Same photo. > > > Thanks!  That issue is resolved! > > So what does it have to do with Defkalion other than to puff up the > publicatio

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

On 11/21/2011 4:32 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: I asked Martin what the hell happened to the materials from the table and the floor. Did they save samples of them? He said no, they didn't. Any photos? No, they didn't bother taking any. It reminds me of the time when Mizuno scraped off black material

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

Mary Yugo wrote: > So you didn't say not to run a blank/calibration run (you know what I mean > when I shorthand that to "blank")? > I repeat for the last time: "Let this company handle everything. They have the instruments. They know the local regulations. They have done this thousands of tim

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > I repeat for the last time: > > "Let this company handle everything. They have the instruments. They know > the local regulations. They have done this thousands of times before. . . . > They've tested newly invented nuclear fusion reactors

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On 2011-11-20 19:15, Terry Blanton wrote: Consider the possibility that, having failed in the deal with Rossi, Defkalion made a deal with Piantelli. Interesting speculation. We might know if it's really the case in about two weeks of time (Defkalion GT announcement). It would be a tragicomic

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: We might know if it's really the case in about two weeks of time (Defkalion > GT announcement). > Anyone know when the countdown to this event started? Just curious when to look for it.

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

I have a trusted friend, a very experienced metal fabrication engineer, who has built BIG boilers, who is Italian but Aussie born. He will probably come along as he speaks the lingo and can arrange the 100 kW test with the local engineering firm, if their English is not that good. Additionally

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > On 2011-11-20 19:15, Terry Blanton wrote: > >> Consider the possibility that, having failed in the deal with Rossi, >> Defkalion made a deal with Piantelli. > > Interesting speculation. We might know if it's really the case in about two > w

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

Funny that they use the term "The Three Musketeers of Cold Fusion" in the caption of the first picture. That is what I called Jed Rothwell, Eugene Mallove and Chris Tinsley back in the day. T

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

November 14, take a look to the Defkalion Forum. http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/DGT_PRESS%20RELEASE_2011-11-14.pdf On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Akira Shirakawa < > shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com> wrote: > > We might know if it's rea

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

Peter Gluck wrote: > Jed, it seems there was a point in the contract, that the E-cat should > work continuously for at least 48 hours- and it didn't. Ah. You refer to the Sept. 6 test done by "Quantum engineers and NASA, but which fails due to leakage." Yes, Rossi's prototype equipment often f

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On 2011-11-20 19:26, Mary Yugo wrote: Anyone know when the countdown to this event started? Just curious when to look for it. On November 14th DGT announced: "We will release a complete outline of our developments within the next two weeks". http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/DGT_PRESS

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: > Funny that they use the term "The Three Musketeers of Cold Fusion" in > the caption of the first picture. > Maybe because someone's nose is lengthening?

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > Anyone know when the countdown to this event started?   Just curious when to > look for it. A week from Monday. T

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

To an engineer it is just another Black Box with inputs and outputs. The only give away that a LENR reaction is occurring inside the Black Box is the COP is greater than 1. Any HVAC engineer or firm would give their last Euro to test this device as they will get high ground for any future work.

Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek

We don't know what kind of ecat they wanted a proof. 2011/11/20 Peter Gluck > > > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > >> Peter Gluck wrote: >> >> They are technologically skilled, good engineers and have refused >>> to pay for an immature and unsafe product. >>> >> >> Who are

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: Good luck, Aussie, getting near it much less testing one. Or do you know any potential customer that has? Does Jed know anyone who privately tested the E-cat correctly and came away with positive results? Maybe actually ordered one? Oh

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

I find very little of what Krivit is saying since he visited Rossi has much of a relationship to reality. I do not read what he says anymore. In my opinion he has crawled out on a limb and is sawing it off. AG On 11/21/2011 5:12 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Aussie

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

Mary Yugo wrote: Does Jed know anyone who privately tested the E-cat correctly and came away > with positive results? Yes, I do. Several people. > Maybe actually ordered one? > No idea if they ordered one. But for some reason, Rossi's machine wouldn't start when either of those > partie

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: I find very little of what Krivit is saying since he visited Rossi has much > of a relationship to reality. > If it were not true, I would expect to see Quantum (a very large firm) and NASA (well... you know NASA) to officially deny it in

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Mary Yugo wrote: > > Does Jed know anyone who privately tested the E-cat correctly and came >> away with positive results? > > > Yes, I do. Several people. > Can you name one we can check with? And if not, why has nobody spoken out and wri

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