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lready scripts for
> this, which are checked in as part of Jim's PyPI mirror tool.
A frozen release is very useful for some people (as long as it also gets
security updates).
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On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 11:11:06PM +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Hey,
>
> On 9/27/07, Brian Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
> > There is one I thought of, but it's a bit backwards.
> >
> > Essentially, Debian has a repository of mostly
eady done the hard work of maintaining sane
dependencies.
So, why not simply re-name the .orig.tar.gz in a Debian release
repository to their original names and you have a working set
corresponding to that release.
If you add your selected personal working set, then you have a basis for
working w
.
It's very strange the way Zope3 mixes high-level code (css, html,
pagetemplates) with low-level python APIs. Basically forcing you to have
(and manage) lots of dependencies even if you only want the python API.
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 01:48:44PM -0400, Fred Drake wrote:
> On 7/11/07, Brian Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Any suggestions as to how to get the actual text when building the
>> tarball?
> ...
>> None of them is very appetizing.
>
> No, they're
t;
> +lots
As long as it's in the tarball, I'm happy (though I suppose the eggs
need it too).
Any suggestions as to how to get the actual text when building the
tarball?
I can see 3 options:
* svn export
* HTTP GET
* Put it inside the setup.py.
None of
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 12:17:56PM +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
> Brian Sutherland wrote:
>> SchoolTool finds itself depending on optionstorage, which is a very zope
>> specific egg. It has never been released, despite being in subversion
>> for a long time.
>>
ore I do that, I would like to place the egg and module into
a namespace package leaving svn externals as the only backwards
compatibility. I don't particularly care which namespace package so
suggestions would be appreciated.
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Was that a security update to a "released" version? Otherwise it's not
so innocent for a production system;)
btw, in future, it is planned to integrate the zope3 tests with
autopkgtest, http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/autopkgtest.
Which should mean that this kind of breakage wi
changes they are
causing in the way people develop in python is making life easier for
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On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:59:37PM +0100, Martin Aspeli wrote:
> Brian Sutherland wrote:
>
> > It's just going to get very difficult very quickly to manage such a meta
> > egg with over 100 or so dependencies. Though I guess there'll be
> > automated tools to m
with over 100 or so dependencies. Though I guess there'll be
automated tools to manage this.
I think another alternative is to separate the releases into different
"repositories", kinda like "All zope 3.0.0 eggs are at
http://download.zope.org/distribution/3.0.0/";.
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ld be to at last let Retry
> and ConflictError errors propagate.
I have no objections to your patch, I just thought I would suggest
another way.
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s mean? Are you suggesting implementing the full range of
dbapi errors in zope.rdb? Or letting the real errors propagate?
One problem with ripping out zope.rdb.interfaces.DatabaseException is
backwards compatibility and deprecation. I can't think of any sane way
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of pain in the past by hiding real problems.
I have never seen any use for it.
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On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 04:29:57PM +0530, Baiju M wrote:
> Brian Sutherland wrote:
>
> >Ok, I'm mostly done with what I wanted to do on that branch. I want to
> >give people a chance to review it (feel free to commit directly to the
> >branch) so I'll leave
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 01:49:07PM -0400, Stephan Richter wrote:
> On Thursday 05 April 2007 12:50, Brian Sutherland wrote:
> > Reading this thread made me want to try out some stuff:
> >
> > � � http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-dev/2007-January/021612.html
> &g
ting tests/examples and generally fixing things.
The actual change is:
http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-checkins/2007-April/029097.html
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> Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training
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;s interesting. As a developer, I like things to be
> self contained. Most Unix system administrators I know want me
> to follow standard Unix file-system layour conventions (e.g.
> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/).
Wearing my sysadmin cap, I'd like to say +100 to following the
? Is it my mistake, a squid bug, a Z3 bug?
Er, more like a squid feature, see negative_ttl. Not sure what the best
way is to get around this though, "no-cache" is probably reasonable.
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On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 12:02:29PM +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
> Brian Sutherland wrote:
> > and Debian packages.
>
> I assumed they would not include ClientForm.py but simply depend on it
> via dpkg?
Yep, thats the way it's done, but Zope 3 tarballs come w
Yeah, and will break the zope3 zpkg setup and Debian packages. To name
just two.
Just please don't back-port this.
> In either case, I would much prefer if we could just depend on it via eggs.
+100 (But again, only on trunk.)
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On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 01:32:47PM -0400, Benji York wrote:
> Brian Sutherland wrote:
> > The reason I put them there in the first place is to nudge committers to
> > create both the tarball and egg (for perhaps more than one python
> > version) when creating a new release.
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 10:23:30PM -0400, Benji York wrote:
> Brian Sutherland wrote:
> > Log message for revision 68639:
> > A basic makefile, the ZPL and copyright headers.
>
> Is there consensus about adding makefiles like this (diff below)? I
> personally don'
On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 10:53:29AM -0400, Benji York wrote:
> Brian Sutherland wrote:
> > * Some of the packages appear to be licensed under the Zope Visible
> > Source License (ZVSL)
> [snip]
> > I assume this is just an oversight
>
> It was, I'
no license text
zc.catalog
no license text,
ZVSL -
http://svn.zope.org/zc.catalog/trunk/src/zc/catalog/i18n.py?rev=41275&view=markup
zc.datetimewidget
no license text
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and +1 on introducing less magical directives and, eventually,
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damm, I really need a new
me on this, I've been meaning to reply a for a while.
I think the best principle for the testbrowser in Five would be to keep
it as close to the Zope3 one as possible. As we would probably want to
merge the two if Zope2 uses the Zope3 publisher.
To be honest I am not enough into the zen of pub
ility() call to re-fetch each time.
At one point in sqlos development we were re-fetching the connection
every time to get local utilities working. That turned out to have a
noticeable performance penalty, i.e. people noticed and started to
complain;)
So these days we have a per thread
On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 04:22:50PM +0400, Dmitry Vasiliev wrote:
> Ok, I'll try to synchronize all my ideas about 'zope.app.rdb' with Stuart for
> a
> proposal.
Just a random thought, so don't shoot me if it's a bad one. Perhaps it
can be moved out of zop
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 08:52:28PM +0100, Brian Sutherland wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just started building the zope trunk tarball every night again, here is
> a failure I don't have time to debug right now.
Never mind, I got it, but now am completely stumped by this failure. It
se
3/src/zope/interface
ERROR: file:///home/jinty/releases/Zope3/src/zope/app/server
ERROR: file:///home/jinty/releases/Zope3/src/zope/app
ERROR: 'adapter' doesn't match any files in
ERROR: (in /home/jinty/releases/Zope3/src/zope/app/PACKAGE.cfg)
ERROR:
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> memory usage issue was related to creating lots of records through
> sqlos, right?
Indeed, though the exact cause is not known.
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 05:03:55PM +0100, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote:
> Brian Sutherland wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 11:54:18AM +0100, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote:
> >
> >>I add this implementation of isConnected to the mysqldbda in my setup
> >>(Zope-2.9
> errors again.
Make sure you have a sqlos revision after 22260, as before that sqlos was
caching connections (even ones where the server has gone away).
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sure in which order I would want them.
> >>
> >
> > Should have been resolved as by this Issue
> > http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/467
>
> Good peoples!
>
> Please don't include the "Reset" functionality in HT
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t to None and it will
carry on failing.
* Also, if, in this transaction, some SQL has been sent through the
connection, the connection will have registered itself with the
transaction manager. This made both aborting and commiting the
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On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 06:35:11PM +0100, Brian Sutherland wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 10:51:04AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
> > >>I am willing to consider a 3.2.1 release for this *after* the final.
> > >
> > >
> > > That would also be fine.
>
, but the maintenance burden is higher. Also, if you can
avoid it, why do you want two sets of packages that do the same thing?
I am not fully convinced that zope 3 on the python path is workable,
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On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 11:29:47AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
> Brian Sutherland wrote:
> > Yes, building and testing tarballs.
>
> What does this mean? What tar balls? Do you mean releases?
basically the contents of releases/Zope-test.py.
For schooltool, the testing script I use
on might as well be spam.
I agree, and have stopped forwarding these messages until I can be
certain they will be more useful. Even before you sent this mail;)
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On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 10:51:04AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
> Brian Sutherland wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 07:13:16AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
> > Because I only realized it was causing a headache for me yesterday.
>
> I greatly appreciate your working on Debian pa
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 07:13:16AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
> Brian Sutherland wrote:
> > Since we are close to the release, I felt compelled to ask before I did
> > this. Could I revert 39890 [1] for the 3.2 release?
>
> No.
Ok, good thing I asked first then;) I'
http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-checkins/2005-November/026485.html
[2] http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zpkg/2005-November/77.html
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tests:
DEBUG: Set up zope.app.testing.functional.Functional in 4.823 seconds.
DEBUG: Ran 459 tests with 0 failures and 0 errors in 119.794 seconds.
DEBUG: Tearing down left over layers:
DEBUG: Tear down zope.app.testing.functional.Functional ... not supported
DEBUG: Total: 8104 tests, 1 failures,
On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 06:53:23AM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote:
> On Monday 07 November 2005 10:18, Brian Sutherland wrote:
> > > Please don't check this in yet, I want to review the problem before you
> > > do, because I think specific interfaces are just nuts unless
On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 09:14:34AM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote:
> On Monday 07 November 2005 08:52, Brian Sutherland wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 12:48:40PM +0100, Brian Sutherland wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 12:08:09PM +0100, Andres Freund wrote:
> > >
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 12:48:40PM +0100, Brian Sutherland wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 12:08:09PM +0100, Andres Freund wrote:
> > 4. Every database adapter has an own interface which inherits from the
> > zope one. This would enable the use of normal zope adaption which i
&
adapter from IMySQLZopeConnection to sqlos to the
IZopeSQLConnection.
3. in mysqldbda provide an implementation of IMySQLZopeConnection, i.e.
returns objects implementing IMySQLZopeConnection in place of
IZopeConnection
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