614/416 events this weekend.
electronic music events in Columbus + Toronto this weekend: friday, 11 aug 2000 / 8-11 pm Stauf's Coffee Roasters 158 Hutchinson Ave * Worthington, OH 43085 +1.614.848.6270 * http://www.staufs.com/ featuring DJs Todd Sines + Amos 10-2:30 Club504 504 N. Park Street * Columbus, OH 43215 +1.614.228.5020 * http://www.club504.com/ featuring Todd Sines * 10 - 11:30 pm Lunar * 11:30 - 12:30 pm Paris the Black Fu vs. Billeebob aka Heckle + Jeckle * 12:30 - 2:30 pm saturday, 12 aug 2000 / 9 pm - 2 am DFLY lounge @ dragonfly neo-v cuisine 247 King Ave * Columbus, OH 43201 * http://www.dragonflyneov.com/dfly/ +1.614.298.9986 featuring DJs Michael Guldan / Delcina Pickering / .placebo. 12-7 am? Translucent +1.614.470.2640 featuring Fanon Flowers, etc. and in Toronto... Three the Hard Way / an ill fitness production http://www.ptrmusic.com/ starring monochrome [live] paris the black fu [live] moonstarr [live] w/ DJs David Cooper + smooth Todd Sines featuring techno strategist and master of techno information science and interpretive dance pioneer Ill Fitness' Ed Luna questions? [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Todd Sines icq: 7580 SCALE:form | image | sound http://www.scalestudio.com
Re: [313] Question about DC
i used to live in balto...try the spot(downtempo club), modern music(record store), buzz(weekly event), or music now(record store)... greg From: Javier Drada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Question about DC Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 16:01:16 CDT Is there anything going on there tonight any place to go for some deep grooves. (Washington D.C.) j.d. http://www.undergroundcommittee.com 504.837.4783 tel 504.553.5628 tel 504.553.5627 fax Keepin' it real, keepin' it UNDERGROUND..Underground Committee.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
....Derrick May in Miami ?!?
I just got back to Miami on Monday from Costa Rica , beautiful country AND the people REALLY dig house and techno If you guys get a chance defenitely check it out . So I'm at the Marlin Hotel as usual on thursday nights...when a friend claims Mr. May should be at Shadowlounge(MAJOR trance club) for a special Camel party.so we head out about 2ish .upon walking in I knew immediately !! He played a great set for all eleven of us as he said , but there were about 30 his usual style house , techno flawless mixing.it was really unfortunate that Miami missed out again on another legend ...at least there 's WMC! Nelson Fernandez (Dj Nova) Miami,FL next stop : Guatemala , Central America , Aug.12-15
Re: [313] Acid life-Pump up the jam
James Bucknell wrote: funny you should mention farley jackmaster funk when it comes to appropriation of other songs. 'love can't turn around' was ripped from isaac hayes' 'i can't turn around'. (incidentally, steve hurley claims he wrote 'love can't turn around' and that farley stole it from him).farley also used the bassline from mfsb's 'love is the message' for another track. so maybe technotronic were the people getting the revenge, or maybe such concepts underlying them are meaningless. I wasn't saying that Farley is a saint in this matter, of course not. All the Deep house-side tracks on that No vocals necessary LP I mentioned are cover versions from original 70's discocuts for example. These questions of stealing and borrowing are a shady matter in dancemusic. Sony trying to make an exact replicate of UR's Jaguar, and make lots of money out of it, is taken much more seriously because Sony is a huge company (that could buy small African countries if it wanted to) that's clearly ripping a small label. In Chicago scene there was basically just competition between DJ's, everyone's trying to be the hottest DJ in town. Funny thing is that what was innocent ripping between DJs became the root of bitterness when the bigger labels (and money) got involved. I bet Love can't turn around on TRAX and HOUSE (not to mention licences) sold much more than I can't turn around on RCA, so in this case multiple smaller companies actually took money from bigger label's hand, because Farley's track came first. And I doubt if I can't turn around had been released earlier it would have been any better success. Love can't... is simply more superior track, that's the reason for it's success. And what about Knuckles ripping J. Principle? There's another classic situation who gets his/her name on the labels. I see the early Chicago track- editculture very similar to the Jamaican rhythm tradition, where everybody's making a VERSION of a common rhythm-theme. It's when someone's makin a buck out of it that rings a bell. Proffit Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Acid life-Pump up the jam
remember acid-video crash/clash was it mike dunn,lil louis,tyree or maybe mr pointdexter. story goes that the disk was ripped by ? from ? with the sequences...riddim style? the point of a riddim is strictly vocal, and that is not even an issue with these tracks.. 154
essence
has anyone heard the samples from a guy called Gerald's new Essence album on !k7?!?!? I told you he was awesome... i've been waiting for this album for 4 years check it www.studio-k7.com/ later, Nick (dj pacific:) --- Andrew Chuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I transcribed part of Derrick May's words from 'Planet Rock', the final episode of the BBC series 'Dancing in the Streets': 'It's sad, in the 20th century, in the 1990's, we have to still go the same bullshit route that other black artists have had to go to get acceptance. Because we're not entertaining bouffant idiots, we have to go someplace else to be accpeted, and that's absolute bullshit. If it wasn't for the independents, for the small, dinky little cities, and the few little ghetto black guys trying to make music, it would have never happened. As quite as it's kept some of these guys will never make a dime. Some of these guys will be poor and die alone. But in the process, they've been the true renegades, and the true rebels always walk alone anyway.' peace out, florian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
Re: [313] Modulations + Dancing in the Streets
But in the process, they've been the true renegades, and the true rebels always walk alone anyway.' Not to take anything away from the truth of his statement, but when I watched this it greatly amused me that this sentence was followed by images of Derrick May on some wasteland... walking alone!
Re: [313] techno books/postmodernism (was UR in Europe)
To my awareness there has only been one book that has dealt exclusively with Detroit techno. That is Dan Sicko's 'Techno Rebels'. There are a handful of music or recording guides on the topic, but the only other major book I know of that has discussed Detroit techno at length is More Brilliant than the Sun By Kodwo Eshun. Dan obviously has a long and direct contact with the scene. He takes a historical, just the facts approach and is especially strong on the origins. I was so glad to see this book come out for several reasons. One is that there actually _exists_ a book about this music. It's so easy for things to be forgotten with the passing of time. Another reason is that I think many people don't know the true story and this book, in its no-nonsense approach, is the simplest way to set the record straight. Despite the books clarity, there are still people who have read it, and think that it is 'just' a book about Detroit's post-disco scene, or that it should have covered more on 'goa trance'. [see amazon.com customer reviews] Sure, the book doesn't talk much about techno's later development in Europe and elsewhere, but I think that is the book's strength. There will be plenty of other people out there who will write those stories. The book doesn't really talk much about the equipment and techniques. Same again. The other thing we might want a music book to write about is the music's structure and what it is like to listen to. Well, this is the difficult one, isn't it? I'm reminded here of something Brian Eno (I think) said. It was 'writing about music is like dancing about architecture'. Also, Wittgenstein said 'of that which we cannot speak, we must pass over in silence'. A moments reflection on this topic reveals to me that the best way to get an idea of what the music is like is to actually listen to it, of course. That, by the way, is not to say that reading about it is fundamentally flawed, or not useful or desirable, just secondary in many cases to careful and repeated listening. Some obvious examples when we need writing about music is with reviews, when we are trying to decide what to buy, when we are trying to explain to people unfamiliar with the music, the kind of reasons we are on this list, or perhaps when we are trying to make a more permanent record for the purposes of history, as in Dan Sicko's case. Since most (but not all) of the recordings are readily available, it makes sense in the case of Techno Rebels to put in a good discography and leave it at that. Kodwo Eshun's book is very different, on the other hand. The subject matter is mostly about D'n'B, dub, hip-hop, jazz, with Detroit techno one style among many. I got excited about this book because it brought together a lot of music, primarily black music, that I was really into. [I'll talk about this book a little here, but forgive me, my copy is in another country right now.] In the 1st chapter Kodwo says something about most dance music journalism being a mean and insubstantial list of names, labels and DJ charts. I tend to agree. He goes to a kind of opposite extreme to Dan's book, I think attempting to recreate the experience of listening in words. He also coins a whole lot of new scientific sounding compound words (e.g. technorhythmachine) and seems to be aligned with postmodern methods of analysis. This, at least for me, is fun to read to a certain extent, but I think it runs into the problems that are hinted at in Eno and Wittgenstein's thoughts. Jared Wilson wrote: Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [313] UR in Europe Also check out More Brilliant than the Sun By Kodwo Eshun. I would say a much more sophisticated and postmodern view of techno, electro, jungle, etc. Has an excellent section on UR. I would recommend it over Techno Rebels. Well, maybe postmodernism is more sophisticated in a way, but sometimes I think at the expense of clarity and common sense. A few months ago I read 'Fashionable Nonsense: Postmodern Intellectuals Abuse of Science' by Sokal and Bricmont. I regard this as absolutely essential reading to anyone interested in postmodernism. In this book a number of leading postmodernists (Lacan, Baudrillard, Deleuze, Virilio, etc) are roundly criticized for the following: 1) Holding forth at length on scientific theories about which one has, at best an exceedingly hazy idea. The most common tactic is to use scientific (or pseudo-scientific) terminology without bothering much much about what the words actually mean. 2) Importing concepts from the natural sciences into the humanities or social sciences without giving the slightest conceptual or empirical justification... 3) Displaying a superficial erudition by shamelessly throwing around technical terms in a context where they are completely irrelevant... 4) Manipulating phrases and sentences that are, in fact, meaningless. I think Eshun is guilty of at least a few of these failures. The only way out then is to say that his
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Re: [313] Re: Ax-020
Judging by the records you mentioned, it looks like you prefer the -less- intricate and more banging/harder records. No, I do not prefer one over the other. I am a big fan of the intricate structured techno, such as the KOMPAKT releases, and other dry german techno. Jared Wilson F.T.M. Records Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Ax-020
Don't you people get tired of hearing all that echo and reverb? Never. This was in reference to the Deepchord releases I presume. Yes it is very old ingredients, but when the finished product is simply good dubbed out techno, who cares what its context is. Isolee uses these same ingredients and it works. I know the funky organic tech-house sound is very trendy right now, people use the word soulful like its going out of style but who do you think your kidding? I'm sure Kevin, Juan, and Derrick could have easily looped disco classics on some primitave one shot sampler if they really wanted to, Yes I agree that tech-house has become very trite, but they should not be compared to early detroit techno. Kevin, Juan, and Derrick are good producers and important for techno, but to try to discredit another music by saying that they could have easily made, is useless. Yes, The innovators' music is good and important, but they are producers just like everyone else and are not gods. What I mean by that is just because they touch something does not mean it turns to gold. And yes I am sick of the word soulful. Jared Wilson F.T.M. Records Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Ah Paris!
Anything good going on in Paris on Monday or Tuesday?? Gwendal?? John
fw: nyc this week
could you post this for me because I can't seem to myself Thanks, David - Original Message - From: dcooper To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: August 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Fw: NYC things to check out this coming week I have noticed how nice it is to meet up with people from the list while at home and on my global travels since my recent joining of the list. With this in mind could anyone inform me of events / places to check on my trip to NYC this coming week. (It doesn't only have to be music related) direct reply please [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] As well all the people in the Toronto area tonight should check out Mr. Oliver Ho who is in town for a couple days. He will be dropping an unannounced set @ Area 51 (quite the intimate location for a dj/producer of his stature). 557 King St w. David Cooper Round Table Dist. Toronto, Canada www.roundtablemusic.com
Re: [313] fw: nyc this week
This is crazy, I used to throw a night at Area 51, this club only holds about 70 people! Cheers to those bringing him and laying it down basement style! todd kelli b kavanaugh wrote: could you post this for me because I can't seem to myself Thanks, David - Original Message - From: dcooper To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: August 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Fw: NYC things to check out this coming week I have noticed how nice it is to meet up with people from the list while at home and on my global travels since my recent joining of the list. With this in mind could anyone inform me of events / places to check on my trip to NYC this coming week. (It doesn't only have to be music related) direct reply please [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] As well all the people in the Toronto area tonight should check out Mr. Oliver Ho who is in town for a couple days. He will be dropping an unannounced set @ Area 51 (quite the intimate location for a dj/producer of his stature). 557 King St w. David Cooper Round Table Dist. Toronto, Canada www.roundtablemusic.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Re: Ax-020-Innovators
JARED WILSON wrote: Yes, The innovators' music is good and important, but they are producers just like everyone else and are not gods. What I mean by that is just because they touch something does not mean it turns to gold. It certainly doesn't. I can think of couple records that are not good even if they have the maestros performing tricks on them. How about: Liaz -House sensation Magic Juan RMXS 12(10 records) -Annoying sounds, sounds like the mixing was all f**ked up... One on one - (10 records) -This one's title I don't remember, it was Boy... -something. Has potential soundwise, but the track doesn't hold itself... Also a Saunderson RMX there, doesn's save it though... Wee papa girls - Kevin Saunderson RMX -Again I don't bother with the title. I remember this one had some awful 303 (???), somekind of acid-attempt tried. Sure there are others, gotta check my crates if I find more hidden treasures ;) Proffit PS. One funny curiosity when we talk about RMXs: Anyone heard the DJ International RMXs of Pet shop boys' version of It's alright? Tyree and Fast Eddie did some 909 work on that track, which of course, was originally Stering Void's track on DJ International. Nothing special, interesting though. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
nyc, mills, ho, surgeon
a friend told me that in nuyc this weekend! research yourself. oh yeah i was thinking you come down to see mills on saturday and oliver ho and surgeon on monday. anybody heard new 430west octave one? peace out Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Ah Paris!
shameless rant Wow, I don't know about monday or tuesday but I'm playing at the Batofar in Paris on Saturday. (http://www.batofar.org) /shameless rant ;) Dale At 03:50 PM 8/11/00 +0200, you wrote: Anything good going on in Paris on Monday or Tuesday?? Gwendal?? John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] techno books/postmodernism (was UR in Europe)
I would disagree with this post. Techno Rebels tries to write a history of techno. I would agree that at points Kodwo does drift into a poetic phase, but More Brilliant... achieve what no other book on electronic music has done, to try and translate the perception of music into words. it is an extremely theoretical read. In the end I guess we will have to agree to disagree, I am glad that someone other than myself has read both books and can give a coherently process the information and not just regurgitate it. I would suggest that if you are interested in learning some history of techno check out Techno Rebels, but if you are more interested in theory than check out More Brilliant than the Sun. P.s. the tactics in the other book you mentioned about postmodernism are just modernist arguments against postmodernism. I would rather talk in person about this than in lengthy threads:] Thank you for the info Jared Wilson F.T.M. Records Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[313]Detroit Bb
Geez why dont we just say the only good RB coming out right now is from the backstreet boyz and N-sync Britney Spears she just on the avant guarde tip as of late huh? Aaron...as S.Freud would say your argument represents a latent desire for fullfillment of whats hiding within... Pete please reread..for you stated their work is a result of their influences.. my point exactly...oh yeah ..your enviroment and experiences make you who you are , only if you grant them that power over your life. yes you cant reinvent the wheel but someone came up with the tire :] Jaredsick of soul...hmmm is this just jelousy over what the other kids have? Does F.T.M. stand for For The Money? I bet you wish one of the not Gods would do a couple of their tricks[sic] on your record label. Kelly...:) Hey ya'll its a Detroit thang .I dont expect you all to understand _Fin Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [313] Re: Ax-020-Innovators
Jim wrote: Yes, The innovators' music is good and important, but they are producers just like everyone else and are not gods. What I mean by that is just because they touch something does not mean it turns to gold. It certainly doesn't. I can think of couple records that are not good even if they have the maestros performing tricks on them. How about: Wee papa girls - Kevin Saunderson RMX -Again I don't bother with the title. I remember this one had some awful 303 (???), somekind of acid-attempt tried. Are you kiding me??The Master Reese mix of The Wee Papa Girls Heat It Up(Jive)is one of my fave remixes of all time!I thought the 303 line was pretty good,and the remix as a whole was a groundbreaking one(one of the first records 2 totally strip everything out of the original).Awesome remix.I think there was also mixes by Chicago Mike HitmanWilson. I do agree that the Magic Juan mix on the Liaz track was total arse.. Justice Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313]Detroit Bb
I thought I was done with these types of people in high school. Oh well some just never grow up. If you define what the other kids have as soul then I definitly do not want it. And I do not know what Detroit Thang you speak of, because I look out my window and do not see it. F.T.M.=Quality Music. Jared Wilson Feed the Machine Records From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313]Detroit Bb Date: 11 Aug 00 11:03:20 EDT Geez why dont we just say the only good RB coming out right now is from the backstreet boyz and N-sync Britney Spears she just on the avant guarde tip as of late huh? Aaron...as S.Freud would say your argument represents a latent desire for fullfillment of whats hiding within... Pete please reread..for you stated their work is a result of their influences.. my point exactly...oh yeah ..your enviroment and experiences make you who you are , only if you grant them that power over your life. yes you cant reinvent the wheel but someone came up with the tire :] Jaredsick of soul...hmmm is this just jelousy over what the other kids have? Does F.T.M. stand for For The Money? I bet you wish one of the not Gods would do a couple of their tricks[sic] on your record label. Kelly...:) Hey ya'll its a Detroit thang .I dont expect you all to understand _Fin Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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Steve Arrington!
Sorry for being totally off topic,but I had the chance to by a old Steve Arrington album today(think it was called Songs In The Key of Life or something like that)but I passed on it.A friend told me his early stuff is worth picking up,and I seem 2 remember Steve's name being mentioned on this list a few years back.So, should I have bought it??What's his best stuff?? Oh yeah...I was lucky enough to find the old Tina Marie paradise garage fave Behind The Groove(motown) for the crazy price of £2.00!! Justice Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] Re: Ax-020-Innovators
Wee papa girls - Kevin Saunderson RMX -Again I don't bother with the title. I remember this one had some awful 303 (???), somekind of acid-attempt tried. Are you kiding me??The Master Reese mix of The Wee Papa Girls Heat It Up(Jive)is one of my fave remixes of all time!I thought the 303 line was pretty good,and the remix as a whole was a groundbreaking one(one of the first records 2 totally strip everything out of the original).Awesome remix.I think there was also mixes by Chicago Mike HitmanWilson. I love that mix too, I have another wee papa girls track w/ KMS production on an old Jive records house comp- track was called we know it. both are fun tracks- and they mix with lots of stuff 'cause theres the detroit beats/percussion, the chigaco acid bass, and the hiphop vocals. I think on that same Jive comp. was one of the worst adonis song i've ever heard, and also samantha fox :) -p
[313] Detroit Bread...
Hey my apoloiges jared for bringing up this past spring and your finishing high school and all... really though why would you go on this 313 thing and talk sh*t about Musicians from the D??? I mean I hope you take no offense I 'm a very opinionated person as yer self and mean no harm to anyone .. really just sticken up for my hometown and I love a good debate... Re: your window you look out of ... maybe it's dirty and needs some cleaning...we all have to clean are windows now and then Because truth be known I would rather put up with all the 'crap' that can be part of the D experience and those that talk sh*t about it...then be somewhere other than the soul city ... It's my hope that people from detroit are more than just fair-weather fans so to speak re: the musical talent born and bread here. _Peace P.s. I dont know what machine your feeding ..but one must feed the soul or it will die... Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [313] Steve Arrington!
'sokay. I'd seek out the stuff he did as a member of SLAVE instead. There's a greatest hits out that has all you'll need. Keep Funk Alive. jorge www.mp3.com/milkish From: justice 808 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Steve Arrington! Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:53:33 BST Sorry for being totally off topic,but I had the chance to by a old Steve Arrington album today(think it was called Songs In The Key of Life or something like that)but I passed on it.A friend told me his early stuff is worth picking up,and I seem 2 remember Steve's name being mentioned on this list a few years back.So, should I have bought it??What's his best stuff?? Justice __ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] techno books/postmodernism (was UR in Europe)
In a message dated 8/11/00 8:39:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm reminded here of something Brian Eno (I think) said. It was 'writing about music is like dancing about architecture'. Also, Wittgenstein said 'of that which we cannot speak, we must pass over in silence'. The word is ineffable. I liked More Brilliant than the Sun by Kodwo Eshun, but as a work of literature, NOT as an informative work describing music. I don't buy the Eno - 'writing about music is like dancing about architecture' line. Most writers about techno and dance music do not have the technical musical skill to write about the music. Their writings tend to be personal reactions and psychological impressions rather that an accurate description of the music, but that's what their readers usually want - personal reactions and psychological impressions.Writing about music is difficult but it can be done. mediadrome
Re: [313] Re: Ax-020-Innovators
Wee Papa Girls? Aggh! The foulness. I'd love to hear these mixes, see what Reese did, 'cause the WPG alone were hard to deal with. BTW, Any NY 313ers going to hear Kevin at CentroFly on the 24th? From: Peter B Leidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: justice 808 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Re: Ax-020-Innovators Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:08:25 -0400 (EDT) Wee papa girls - Kevin Saunderson RMX -Again I don't bother with the title. I remember this one had some awful 303 (???), somekind of acid-attempt tried. Are you kiding me??The Master Reese mix of The Wee Papa Girls Heat It Up(Jive)is one of my fave remixes of all time!I thought the 303 line was pretty good,and the remix as a whole was a groundbreaking one(one of the first records 2 totally strip everything out of the original).Awesome remix.I think there was also mixes by Chicago Mike HitmanWilson. I love that mix too, I have another wee papa girls track w/ KMS production on an old Jive records house comp- track was called we know it. both are fun tracks- and they mix with lots of stuff 'cause theres the detroit beats/percussion, the chigaco acid bass, and the hiphop vocals. I think on that same Jive comp. was one of the worst adonis song i've ever heard, and also samantha fox :) -p - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [313] techno books/postmodernism (was UR in Europe)
I'm reminded here of something Brian Eno (I think) said. It was 'writing
about music is like dancing about architecture'.
ok, 1st you say:
I don't buy the Eno - 'writing about music is like dancing about
architecture' line.
but then you say:
Writing about music is difficult
but it can be done.
{the refute has morphed into a proof}
By the same token, dancing about architecture is difficult but it can be
done. ;)
Conveying or communicating any artform in(to) another medium is always a
struggle - as it should be. Or else the artist would have painted her song
to begin with.
Re: origin of above quote.
hearing it (possibly) attributed to brian eno prompted me to wonder who 1st
said what to me, is such a meaningful quote...
check out http://home.pacifier.com/~ascott/they/tamildaa.htm for the
answer(s).
hint: there isn't one.
kelli
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Re: [313] techno books/postmodernism (was UR in Europe)
In a message dated 8/11/00 3:05:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm reminded here of something Brian Eno (I think) said. It was 'writing
about music is like dancing about architecture'.
ok, 1st you say:
I don't buy the Eno - 'writing about music is like dancing about
architecture' line.
but then you say:
Writing about music is difficult
but it can be done.
{the refute has morphed into a proof}
BULLSHIT
shove your word games dude
There's a difference between words as art/literature and words and a
descriptive history. (let's hear some structuralist crap about that so you
can get the last word in)
You want and example of of writing about music - morph yourself to a music
library and look up Rosen's history of the classical sonata - and try not to
make a smart ass reply till you've read it.
mediadrome
Cim_reference
hello, I know I am late on this, but I just got Reference by Cim today. Nice downtempo 313 inspired electronic listening music, this disc is so good! if you havent checked his stuff out already, do so. I feel bad that I have waited this long to buy Simon Walley's music. Now I just need to find a few producers who shamelessly ripoff Icon by Rhythim is Rhythim and I will be perfectly content. Take care, Mike -- Michael Taylor : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
