Re: [313] Kodwo Eschun
http://www.kode.demon.co.uk/ - Original Message - From: darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 11:29 PM Subject: [313] Kodwo Eschun Is there an online source of Kodwo Eschun's theories and writings? thanks, darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Record ID help!
I have the same record... no idea who did it tho... _ Patrick Wacher Webmaster/Operations beenz.com New York . London . San Francisco . Tokyo . Paris . Sydney . Hong Kong . Singapore . Rome . Stockholm . -Original Message- From: David Hampson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 31 October 2000 6:27 PM To: 313 list Subject: [313] Record ID help! I've picked up this very nice trancey techno release which it would be nice to know what it is! Its a 7 clear vinyl one sided flexi disc and a red marbled with black 10 single which plays inside outwards. It has no label and the following messages on the pressing: side one inner groove: WARP #1WE KNOW WHO WE ARE L-43084 MANUEL AND CLIVE side one outer groove: FREQUENCIES IDENTIFIED ISOLATED AND DESTROYEDTHE TROUBLE WITH TRIBBLE IS side two inner groove: WARP #2 NATIONAL SOUND (NSC) DETROITL-43084-X side two outer groove: PEACE TO ALL TECHNO PRISONERS 1994LOVE TO LOVES Any ideas? BABY DIDDY - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: Top Ten Tekno + Newbie Intro
::: Okay, :::Now that everyone and there mom has emailed me telling me to go to a ::: record store and listen for myselfI'd like to remind. :::you all that ::: there are a bazillion tekno records out there! And NO I don't have the ::: time to spend in a record store sifting through them all :::(assuming there ::: is a decent central tekno record store in San Diego). If you are now planning on buying records regulalry then the best way is to go into a record store and talk to the guys in there. It is there job to know what is good etc. Now that said not every record store attendant is going to have the same tastes as you, by the sounds of it your not even completely sure which genre you like. This list is dedicated to detroit techno although it seems as though other forms of minimal techno and chicago house are acceptable too. There would be no point in everyone on here giving you a top 10 when you may like jungle or trance. My suggestion is if you don't have time (imho there is always time but i love spending hours in record shops) then check out a website that sells records with the option of listening to sound bites see http://www.juno.co.uk it has a variety of styles and artists. If you used to buy records just check out the artists you used to buy, most are probably still making music and by doing searches for them on something like artistdirect.com you should be able to find other related artists. andrew ps this is my first post to 313 so in case anyone is interested: I'm a 24 yo male living in Adelaide, Australia (shout outs to tan,jm,nexus,cjp and royal, yeah i finally joined up =) ) I have been going to raves for about 7 years but only really concentrated on techno and house for the last 4 b4 that it was mixed with some really bad happy hardcore and early jungle :) also noticed this list has a variety of people from the uk, if anyone lives around Dunfermline, Scotland (where i was born) i'd love to here from them to find out what's going on with techno there.
Re: [313] Jeff Mills Metropolis
That he gets drawn into the film, thinks about it afterwards, then thinks about how it is he (the audience) was made to feel a certain way, then feels a creative need to mastermind something with the same power. I bet you have had the same experience? The probable cause, my mind being inflicted then becomes stimulated not only by the plot but also, intrigued by the method in which the producer choses to present the plot of the film to the viewer. seriously!?! What in hell does that mean? darw_n
Re: [313] Jeff Mills Metropolis
Ha-ha, just thinking: Cliff Notes to Mills' Metropolis, Cliff notes to Tupac Shakur, etc. In 10, 15 years maybe kids will be studying hip-hop, techno, etc, like they study Joni Mitchell now as pop music in VCE music theory. That he gets drawn into the film, thinks about it afterwards, then thinks about how it is he (the audience) was made to feel a certain way, then feels a creative need to mastermind something with the same power. I bet you have had the same experience? The probable cause, my mind being inflicted then becomes stimulated not only by the plot but also, intrigued by the method in which the producer choses to present the plot of the film to the viewer. seriously!?! What in hell does that mean? darw_n
Re: andrew duke's in the mix
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[313] Re: nortroute, new broadcast
Accessibility vs Intensity Classic dilemma of the internet. I'm on broadband right now too, but many people aren't, and I think it's important to try to make internet media as widely available as the particular medium (in this case streamed audio) practically allows. And I like the idea that even if I'm travelling and using a modem I can still tune in to this mix from across the world (judging by the timezone). Another way of approaching the issue might be to have a high-bandwidth and low-bandwidth feed, so that dslers, cable users and dial-ups can all utilize their connections to the utmost. But then the trade-off is that it's more work and load on the sender. As a related aside, this is the push of internet2, to streamline the internet into a tiered system divided by bandwidth access. Great if you've got it, but completely denies access if you don't because it's based on independant networks. Best of luck with the new project marsel and crew! ^_^ broadcasts will be each wednesday from: 2000-2300GMT / 2100-CET first show Wednesday, November 1st, 2000. [in] other words.. . tonight! you'll need [the] WinAMP MP3 player to listen [to] the show. The good: It's an MP3 stream (I hate RealPlayer and Winblows Media Player) The music sounded good (modulo the bad, below) The bad: 11 kHz, 16 Kbps??? :-( Blah. My cable modem wants 44 kHz, 128 Kbps. Lots of other streams give it to me. Any chance of a higher bandwidth stream in the future? :-/ We need more Net music like this. Just at higher bandwidth :-) - Greg _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Jeff Mills Metropolis
I figured that out, what I am a tad concerned with is what, or why, is The probable cause' doing where it is? I understand that he may be saying that the probable cause of his creative stance on the film is what he describes after, but notice I say may. There's art, then there's academics, and the two tend to fumble over each other a lot... The more I read it, I get the feeling that there is more context that would make it sound better... The thing is, he's using commas as if he's talking, pausing to think a second, then continue. No worry though, I tend to do that myself, but sometimes, such as this, it can get more cumbersome than enjoyable... Is this available through large distributors (Barnes and Noble, ect), and I am sorry if someone answered this before, but what is the word on the film being released? darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com - Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [313] Jeff Mills Metropolis That he gets drawn into the film, thinks about it afterwards, then thinks about how it is he (the audience) was made to feel a certain way, then feels a creative need to mastermind something with the same power. I bet you have had the same experience? The probable cause, my mind being inflicted then becomes stimulated not only by the plot but also, intrigued by the method in which the producer choses to present the plot of the film to the viewer. seriously!?! What in hell does that mean? darw_n - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Jeff Mills Metropolis
Jeff Mills is a fantastic artist who's reputation precedes him. Nobody ever said he was literate or down-to-earth, however :). It's important in cases such as these (as there have been many over the years) to reiterate our devotion to the music and let the nonsense remain in the periphery. Ryan Heard -Original Message- From: darw_n [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 9:57 PM To: Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: Re: [313] Jeff Mills Metropolis I figured that out, what I am a tad concerned with is what, or why, is The probable cause' doing where it is? I understand that he may be saying that the probable cause of his creative stance on the film is what he describes after, but notice I say may. There's art, then there's academics, and the two tend to fumble over each other a lot... The more I read it, I get the feeling that there is more context that would make it sound better... The thing is, he's using commas as if he's talking, pausing to think a second, then continue. No worry though, I tend to do that myself, but sometimes, such as this, it can get more cumbersome than enjoyable... Is this available through large distributors (Barnes and Noble, ect), and I am sorry if someone answered this before, but what is the word on the film being released? darw_n
la-la techno
I very much enjoy this PsychoDiscotek 2-fer offered up by Daniel Chavez on Automat Records (AUTO1)... So, is there more to be had..?.. and if so: titles, labels, recommendations..? n.p.: the Henry Kloss Model One Table Radio what arrived in the post this a.m. ah... mono.., J. E. v.F-B. B.
Re: [313] Jeff Mills Metropolis
Try a little editing. From this: The probable cause, my mind being inflicted then becomes stimulated not only by the plot but also, intrigued by the method in which the producer choses to present the plot of the film to the viewer. to this: The probable cause: my mind, being inflicted, then becomes stimulated not only by the plot but also intrigued by the method in which the producer choses to present the plot of the film to the viewer. My version: Put cd into the cd player, press the 'Play' button, and let people express themselves. :) Dave __ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/
Can You Feel It discog
I know this went around a few months ago, so I hope someone can just email me the thread if they've still got it. I'm looking to find out release info for all of the different versions of Can You Feel It or at least the MLK speach version (white label???) and the one with the following female vocal: Some times I feel like throwing my hands up in the air. I know, I know I can always count on you. Sometimes I feel like saying Lord I just don't care. But you've got the love I need to see me through. Suffice it to say I assumed the insrtumental could not be improved on, and I was wrong. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger Most people have the cataract. They do not see what they look at. Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum... - Stereolab _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [313] Can You Feel It discog
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Phonopsia wrote: Some times I feel like throwing my hands up in the air. I know, I know I can always count on you. Sometimes I feel like saying Lord I just don't care. But you've got the love I need to see me through. this clip is from candi staton's you got the love, which has been remixed to death in the eighties and nineties.. acapella is widely available on different releases. sakke -- working at http://www.teraflops.com/ website at http://www.vip.fi/~sakke/
Re: [313] basic channel site
Official site - http://home.snafu.de/circonium/ See also - http://biophilia.riege.de/bc/ NC --- http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk http://communities.msn.co.uk/darkenergy --- _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] basic channel site
-Original Message- From: Nick Craddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, November 02, 2000 2:47 AM Subject: Re: [313] basic channel site Official site - http://home.snafu.de/circonium/ See also - http://biophilia.riege.de/bc/ OK. So now I'm really confused. When they list this: prescription underground recorded at waxx studios berlin rpm.199 nagual / the unknown: feel the rhythm It's Prescription 002... but it's list as a BCP project. Does that mean it's the Ron Trent and Moritz Von Oswald collaboration remix of Feel the Rhythm. I've never payed particularly close attention to this version before b/c there are sooo many versions of Feel the Rhythm scattered across the early Prescription catalogue. This is one of my favorites, but it doesn't sound too much different than the others except that it has all the vocals, and it tied together elements from all the different versions. Or was this the original? I guess this is just a testament to how similar the Prescription and BCP methods were back then. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger Most people have the cataract. They do not see what they look at. Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum... - Stereolab _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: comparing software synths to hardware syths
In regards to current software synths vs. previous formats, We all need to remember that comparing apples to oranges is incorrect. I happen to experience different feelings and emotions at different times depending on what I'm experiencing through my senses. To say that one is better than the other doesn't jive with me. As all types of sounds (programmed by nature or by man) evoke different feelings and emotions, every hardware synthisizer has the possibility to sound different from every software synthisizer and this is the beauty of life. In my opinion, this idea can be related to creative potential. Brooks ps- and creative potential is clearly directly related to 313 music. :) -- Ryan Heard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it amusing ... all this talk about a product that's not out. People excited by something they've not heard (it is a MUSIC creation tool is it not?). Oh yea.. I've heard the mp3 demos as well... about as charming as the demos in your current hardware synths ya? It's similar to the hype that folks (myself included) have lumped on Max/MSP. I recently saw Jan Jelinek (1/2 of Farben, one-whole of Gramm) perform using not only hardware, but it appeared to be very archaic. This taught me a very valuable lesson about worshipping a false God (hardware), when this God is truly in the music. (insert standard disclaimer here about how tools have shaped modern music in their own right... yada yada yada). Peace, hugs, love, and blech! Ryan Heard -Original Message- From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 9:25 AM To: Craig Stodolenak Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] OT: Propellerheads:Reason Soft Synth On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Craig Stodolenak wrote: most of your dedicated digital gear can be trashed in favor of it being in your computer. Later rather than sooner, your analog gear will find the same place, after being digitally modelled. Great! then i can buy it all at firesale prices. The thing people need to learn is that when it comes to music making and sound production, nothing cool is ever obsolete. The next revolution won't be a piece of software, though. It'll be a new human/computer interface that will allow you to manipulate digital things more intuitively. Our mind and muscles operate in the analog, and that's the rub. The user interface of the piano, violin, and trumpet (for example) are going to take a long time to top. Of course you actually have to PRACTICE them. Even things that are 'easy' to use are hard to use artfully. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
Re: [313] Record ID help!
I also have this piece, but could never find out who did it. Dave G. -- From: David Hampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Record ID help! Date: Tue, Oct 31, 2000, 2:27 AM I've picked up this very nice trancey techno release which it would be nice to know what it is! Its a 7 clear vinyl one sided flexi disc and a red marbled with black 10 single which plays inside outwards. It has no label and the following messages on the pressing: side one inner groove: WARP #1WE KNOW WHO WE ARE L-43084 MANUEL AND CLIVE side one outer groove: FREQUENCIES IDENTIFIED ISOLATED AND DESTROYEDTHE TROUBLE WITH TRIBBLE IS side two inner groove: WARP #2 NATIONAL SOUND (NSC) DETROITL-43084-X side two outer groove: PEACE TO ALL TECHNO PRISONERS 1994LOVE TO LOVES Any ideas? BABY DIDDY - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Jeff Mills Metropolis
on 11/1/00 9:21 PM, darw_n at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The probable cause, my mind being inflicted then becomes stimulated not only by the plot but also, intrigued by the method in which the producer choses to present the plot of the film to the viewer. seriously!?! What in hell does that mean? Good story. Well directed. -- There4IM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the liner notes aside, how is Jeff's Metropolis?
track ID
can anyone identify a filtered disco cut-up record that uses a chunk of the string-driven theme from hart to hart ? i heard it on a mix i downloaded, which claims to be jeff mills live at doornroosje. chris
FW: track ID
can anyone identify a filtered disco cut-up record that uses a chunk of the string-driven theme from hart to hart ? i heard it on a mix i downloaded, which claims to be jeff mills live at doornroosje. chris
nortroute.net playlists
thanks to all those who tuned in! we had a very successful launch. hope to see you next week around every wednesday, 8-11pm gmt / 9-12pm cet http://nortroute.net nortroute playlist 01/11/2000 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED]::: derrick may - phantom (transmat) aardvarck - doeda (unreleased/delsin) nubian mindz - can't wait (unreleased/neroli) kenny dope - the illout (dope wax) mos def - climb (rawkus) j majik - album track f2 (infra red) jon beltran - fragile (33rpm/sinewave) eddie fowlkes - d.m.u. (lafayette) deepart - picture #4 b2 (deepart) ectomorph - skin (it) model 500 - o.k. corral (metroplex) pub - summer arovane rmx (vertical form) lackluster - cull streak sense mix (defocus) lucky easy - pimp soul blisters (unreleased/delsin) [EMAIL PROTECTED]::: global communication - maiden voyage (dedicated) b12 - infosphere (warp) rhythim is rhythim - beforethereafter (transmat) jeff mills - prefecture (tresor/axis) optic nerve - the calling [unreleased] black faction - widow maker [unreleased] metamatics - landlady (hydrogen dukebox) esem - preledd (defocus) boards of canada - in a beautiful place (warp) metamatics - evening star (hydrogen dukebox) [EMAIL PROTECTED]::: jason hogans - peter and the rooster (planet e) aardvarck - spoken (rushhour) ross154 - mayflower (eevolute) nuron - madam 6 (likemind) balil - nort route (remix) (a.r.t.) lucky easy - chippoke (delsin) stasis - out of the unknown (otherworld) agent-x - driftin' (planet e) nubian mindz - 2010 nubian (archive) titonton - re-extrapolation (dan curtin pt.1) (metamorphic) http://www.nortroute.net ___ forcefield | mindless entertainment http://www.forcefield.org _ __ ___
'joker-flying-around'-track?
Hi, I saw this track on MTV a while ago during one of their megamixes on the partyzone. It was I think between a Depeche Mode remix and a Violently Happy by Bjork remix. The accompanying videoclip was something in the X-mix style and shows a joker (jester) flying through some kind of alien planet, with flowers and strange plants. It is a very melodic and funky techno track. Any ideas? It might be on one of the X-mix vids. Thanks, Corneel. _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. the modern day composer refuses to die - E. Varese real music never will - K.S. http://www.boomboomclap.demon.nl/kynsi _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._.
Ken Ishii
Given the proximity of Australia and Japan you would expect Japanese DJs to come out here to play very often, but it has only been recently that those kind of exchanges have taken place - the trancier guys - like Tokyo Techno Tribe and DJ Tsuyoshi, etc - come out all the time, but not so the techno DJs. Ken Ishii made his first visit to Melbourne for the Earthcore outdoor party for last New Year's Eve and is now returning to play club dates in Sydney and Melbourne this weekend. I think it will be very cool, so maybe people can consider going to that. He plays the next installment of the Innovator party at Seven nightclub this Monday night - which is Cup Eve - in Melbourne, I am unsure of the Sydney details. He is being described as a Derrick May type DJ, so we'll see - funky, soulful and diverse! Has anyone experienced Ken's sets - what can we expect? Recloose and Common Factor are playing the same night here in Melbourne at Honytonks, so it's a case of needing a cloning machine or party-hopping, I guess! Incidentally, Ken Ishii has a new album out in Japan - it actually came out two months ago. It's called Flatspin and three of the tracks are part of the soundtrack to a new film. There is also a track called Iceblink which is a collaboration between Inner City and Ken - that is Ken did the track and the vocals are performed by Paris Grey and produced by Inner City. I don't know if anyone has heard this track yet but I should imagine it would be very interesting. The album should be released in Asia over the new few months and will get an Australian release - at this stage possibly early in the New Year. Fumiya Tanaka is another Japanese DJ who has only just made his first foray into these parts and I caught him at a small party a couple of weekends ago. Unfortunately something went wrong with the mixer just as he was about to start - I think with the monitor headphone jack breaking off in the socket, just one of those things! So that caused a delay - for some the night lost a little momentum, for others it added to the anticipation. He was very good - subtle and subliminal, as I said in an earlier post, but I was tired (it was Friday) and couldn't really focus on the whole night. I did wonder however if anyone else caught Fumiya and had any thoughts?
Re: [313] Jeff Mills Metropolis
The probable cause, my mind being inflicted then becomes stimulated not only by the plot but also, intrigued by the method in which the producer choses to present the plot of the film to the viewer. one word: parallelism! jeez...
Re: [313] Jeff Mills Metropolis
2 words and sum dots yeah right.
Re: [313] Can You Feel It discog
Those lyrics look like(can't check it now)Adeva's on Paul Simpson's Musical Freedom. Interesting, since that track uses a snippet of Dr King's free at last-speech which I've read dj:s used to spin over Can U Feel It back in the day. /H --- Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this went around a few months ago, so I hope someone can just email me the thread if they've still got it. I'm looking to find out release info for all of the different versions of Can You Feel It or at least the MLK speach version (white label???) and the one with the following female vocal: Some times I feel like throwing my hands up in the air. I know, I know I can always count on you. Sometimes I feel like saying Lord I just don't care. But you've got the love I need to see me through. Suffice it to say I assumed the insrtumental could not be improved on, and I was wrong. Tristan == PHONOPSIA[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102 FrogboyMCI on AOL Instant Messenger Most people have the cataract. They do not see what they look at. Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum Dee Dum... - Stereolab _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
On the decks,yo (A2)
Unwind Version .03 .04 Sunday, November 5, 2000 8pm-11:45pm Residents on the Decks Bill Van Loo (chromdecay) Rob Theakston (planet e) Diana Potts (baconeater) Sunday November 19, 2000 Bill Van Loo (chromedecay) Rob Theakston (planet e) *Live PA by Nate De Yonker delicate jazzy and downtempo treats. http://www.chromedecay.com Espresso Royale, Ann Arbor Michigan on State St. (across from diag) More to come,less to complicate sundays you should Unwind. np:funkstorung DJ set(betalounge.com) _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
On the decks,yo (A2)
Unwind Version .03 .04 Sunday, November 5, 2000 8pm-11:45pm Residents on the Decks Bill Van Loo (chromdecay) Rob Theakston (planet e) Diana Potts (baconeater) Sunday November 19, 2000 Bill Van Loo (chromedecay) Rob Theakston (planet e) *Live PA by Nate De Yonker delicate jazzy and downtempo treats. http://www.chromedecay.com Espresso Royale, Ann Arbor Michigan on State St. (across from diag) More to come,less to complicate sundays you should Unwind. np:funkstorung DJ set(betalounge.com) _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: [313] Jeff Mills Metropolis
word to that!..1-take out record 2-put on turntable 3- dribble about grammatically correct liner notes becomes insignificant also, i think everybody here has the ability to grasp the point he is trying to make even if the notes are imperfect. -Original Message- From: Ryan Heard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 10:49 PM To: 313 List Subject: RE: [313] Jeff Mills Metropolis Jeff Mills is a fantastic artist who's reputation precedes him. Nobody ever said he was literate or down-to-earth, however :). It's important in cases such as these (as there have been many over the years) to reiterate our devotion to the music and let the nonsense remain in the periphery. Ryan Heard -Original Message- From: darw_n [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 9:57 PM To: Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: Re: [313] Jeff Mills Metropolis I figured that out, what I am a tad concerned with is what, or why, is The probable cause' doing where it is? I understand that he may be saying that the probable cause of his creative stance on the film is what he describes after, but notice I say may. There's art, then there's academics, and the two tend to fumble over each other a lot... The more I read it, I get the feeling that there is more context that would make it sound better... The thing is, he's using commas as if he's talking, pausing to think a second, then continue. No worry though, I tend to do that myself, but sometimes, such as this, it can get more cumbersome than enjoyable... Is this available through large distributors (Barnes and Noble, ect), and I am sorry if someone answered this before, but what is the word on the film being released? darw_n - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fw: Transmat Presents...
what's sad is that the majority of people who listen to techno in detroit have no idea who these people are. techno to them is madonna music ass titties ani (usually bitter this early in the morning...) jeffrey wrote: its not fair that you guys get RESIDENT DJS like that. *wipes drool off floor* JEFF -Original Message- From: Tim Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 12:13 PM To: 313 Subject: [313] Fw: Transmat Presents... - Original Message - From: Derrick Ortencio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 2:16 PM Subject: Transmat Presents... Transmat Presents... Every Other Thursday @ The Temple November Line-up 11/02 Ron Trent . Tony Ollivierra 11/16 Rolando . Lawrence Burden 11/30 Juan Atkins . (birthday boy) Mike Grant 21+ The Temple - 344 9 Mile Rd/ Ferndale / 248-414-7400 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Jeff Mills Metropolis
On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, darw_n wrote: The probable cause, my mind being inflicted then becomes stimulated not only by the plot but also, intrigued by the method in which the producer choses to present the plot of the film to the viewer. seriously!?! What in hell does that mean? If I were to translate from Mills-speak I'd render it as I'm inspired by the movie [to make music] not only by the plot, but by the methods the director uses to present the plot. As much as I respect Mills absolutely as a DJ and a producer, I don't imagine he did well in English class ;-)
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BASTA!!! to liner notes comments
I didn't mean to create a monster thread, and as I said my respect for Mills is total. I was, back in the day, an English major, and spend time thinking about words, in addition to music, and I'm a fan of expressing yourself clearly and concisely. To tell the truth my main concern is that Jeff has loads of extremely interesting things to say, and he gets dogged over and over about the stuff he writes. Obviously his strengths lie in non-verbal communication, and his attentions are NOT focused on Strunk White. I just think that if someone at Axis would edit what he writes, his message would come across a lot better. kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jump.to/cornwarning -- Iowa's First Techno Record Label http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes
Paul Oakenfold
Hey, i heard that Paul Oakenfold is going to be in Grand Rapids either this weekend or next. does anyone have any info on that. i really want to go but i don't even know the date, info line, or where in G.R, it is. thanx :) Cori
Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold
uh oh... At 10:56 AM -0500 11/2/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, i heard that Paul Oakenfold is going to be in Grand Rapids either this weekend or next. does anyone have any info on that. i really want to go but i don't even know the date, info line, or where in G.R, it is. thanx :) Cori - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Fw: Transmat Presents...
the grass is always greener... ..i got nothing against people peering over tha picket to check what's growing in their neighbours garden ( it's the human compulsion ), BUT WHEN are people gonna start to learn how to appreciate what they have. wats tha big deal about IMPORTS? in an age where technology and security are of paramount importance, it seems as though INSECURITY reignz diana ross appreciate and cultivate your garden.. .then observe and implement your visions. debonair. - Original Message - From: * ani * [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 2:30 AM Subject: Re: [313] Fw: Transmat Presents... what's sad is that the majority of people who listen to techno in detroit have no idea who these people are. techno to them is madonna music ass titties ani (usually bitter this early in the morning...) jeffrey wrote: its not fair that you guys get RESIDENT DJS like that. *wipes drool off floor* JEFF -Original Message- From: Tim Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 12:13 PM To: 313 Subject: [313] Fw: Transmat Presents... - Original Message - From: Derrick Ortencio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 2:16 PM Subject: Transmat Presents... Transmat Presents... Every Other Thursday @ The Temple November Line-up 11/02 Ron Trent . Tony Ollivierra 11/16 Rolando . Lawrence Burden 11/30 Juan Atkins . (birthday boy) Mike Grant 21+ The Temple - 344 9 Mile Rd/ Ferndale / 248-414-7400 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Paul Oakenfold
ha ha hahere we go! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:57 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold uh oh... At 10:56 AM -0500 11/2/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, i heard that Paul Oakenfold is going to be in Grand Rapids either this weekend or next. does anyone have any info on that. i really want to go but i don't even know the date, info line, or where in G.R, it is. thanx :) Cori - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Beta Bodega: OHIO chapter: saturday, 04.nov.2k @ ANNEX
- Forwarded message from Todd Sines -
BBC: saturday, 04.nov.2k @ ANNEX
BETA BODEGA COALITION: OHIO CHAPTER Saturday, 04 November 2000 @ ANNEX 245 King Avenue Columbus, Ohio preview: http://www.firexit.com/ 9 PM doors / $8 cover FIREXIT, + SCALE, and ANNEX present the latest in a series of multimedia events at the ANNEX space, 245 King Avenue [adjacent to Dragonfly neo-v cuisine]. This marks the first ever Ohio appearances of the Coalition; as well live electronic performances from TPM [push button objects], Safety Scissors, and Sutekh. In addition to the imported talent from Miami + San Francisco, Columbus recording artists SERVO and neriq will be performing live. ANNEX will showcase the collaborative effort between design collectives PLEX + SCALE, featuring guerrilla-style art propaganda posters, video loops, label arts and informative slides that reinforce the harrowing effects of imperialism and globalism on third world countries of Latin America. lineup: 21:00-22:00: doors open. art + idea exposure 22:00-22:45: neriq [CMH todd sines] 22:45-23:25: servo [CMH stewart brown + garred martin] 23:25-12:05: sutekh [SFO seth horvitz] 12:05-12:50: safety scissors [SFO watson macleatus] 12:50-02:00: tpm/pbo + v8 [MIA edgar farinas + bbc-classified] Hope to see you there... email me if you have any questions. +odd - End of forwarded message from Todd Sines - -- Todd Sines icq: 7580 SCALE:form | image | sound http://www.scalestudio.com
Re: [313] BASTA!!! to liner notes comments
man, NO ONE should EDIT jeff in ANY WAY. no one should edit his, or anyone else's method of expression. you, kent, said it yourself ; i'm a fan of expressing yourself clearly and concisely . ... one person's glass is another person's steel why edit art, kent? why edit jeff's nature, kent? bond. james bond - Original Message - From: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 2:46 AM Subject: [313] BASTA!!! to liner notes comments I didn't mean to create a monster thread, and as I said my respect for Mills is total. I was, back in the day, an English major, and spend time thinking about words, in addition to music, and I'm a fan of expressing yourself clearly and concisely. To tell the truth my main concern is that Jeff has loads of extremely interesting things to say, and he gets dogged over and over about the stuff he writes. Obviously his strengths lie in non-verbal communication, and his attentions are NOT focused on Strunk White. I just think that if someone at Axis would edit what he writes, his message would come across a lot better. kent williams -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jump.to/cornwarning -- Iowa's First Techno Record Label http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ManuelClive + BC q.!
i got a 1996 sampler from i.t.p. records, london, called selected works which contains 2 tracks by MANUEL CLIVE. they're called bounce factor and recognised, copyrighted control (sigh!) and are nice stomping acid bounce. the later was also featured on the very first dj-kicks mix-cd by cj bolland (n/a anymore!). never heard anything else from those guys(?)... BTW, also on the i.t.p. sampler is one track called stronghold by B.C., sounds like B(asic) C(hannel) and is also on the Dave Angel Dj-kicks, but there's no word about this track on the Basic Channel webpages I know. Does somebody know who did this? thanks, stefan The scene was all changed like the change in his face...
Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold
Yes, Paul Oakenfold will be in the Detroit area. He will visit several locations to see some DJs in action and to learn what DJing is. Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:57 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold uh oh... At 10:56 AM -0500 11/2/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, i heard that Paul Oakenfold is going to be in Grand Rapids either this weekend or next. does anyone have any info on that. i really want to go but i don't even know the date, info line, or where in G.R, it is. thanx :) Cori - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.TV-99-AD.com/hans/ http://TechnoTourist.org/ http://www.mp3.com/TV99AD
hawtin, deep chord, wild questions
i remember hearing about richie hawtin opening/running a club in windor a few years back. is there a story here or was i dreaming? anyone have any info on the deep chord guys apart from the www.deepchord.com site? their releases are excellent. also does anyone know of a history on damon wild anywhere on the web? any help is greatly appreciated. mr bloch - your stuff is cool as hell
RE: [313] Paul Oakenfold
Who? mg Todd Gys [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/02/00 11:11AM ha ha hahere we go! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:57 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold uh oh... At 10:56 AM -0500 11/2/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, i heard that Paul Oakenfold is going to be in Grand Rapids either this weekend or next. does anyone have any info on that. i really want to go but i don't even know the date, info line, or where in G.R, it is. thanx :) Cori - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
313ers in Columbus
hey...if there are any 313er's going to the BB event in Columbus..search me out,yo. sorry for the bandwith. d - http://www.geocities.com/digitaleyedentity aolpottsdia Destiny is what we work towards. The future does't exist yet. Fate is for losers. -Douglas Coupland. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] hawtin, deep chord, wild questions
i remember hearing about richie hawtin opening/running a club in windor a few years back. is there a story here or was i dreaming? Was that 13 Below? Some pretty damn awesome nights there, but it's closed now. anyone have any info on the deep chord guys apart from the www.deepchord.com site? their releases are excellent. Here's a hint: Put up your right hand and stare at the thumb. Speaking of, they've got a new CD out now. Is it a compilation of all of their releases so far, or are there any exclusive tracks. I'll be picking that up since I've missed the boat on this label but have been forced to ass shake any time someone drops it.
New Tobias Schmidt
Has anyone heard the soon-to-be-released lp from Tobias Schmidt? I saw that it is going to be released in the States in mid November but wonder if it's been released overseas already. Lara _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold
so if I was Oakie, I would *never* go to 313 because of the shame and embarrassment that would wash over me... darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com - Original Message - From: Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold Yes, Paul Oakenfold will be in the Detroit area. He will visit several locations to see some DJs in action and to learn what DJing is. Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:57 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold uh oh... At 10:56 AM -0500 11/2/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, i heard that Paul Oakenfold is going to be in Grand Rapids either this weekend or next. does anyone have any info on that. i really want to go but i don't even know the date, info line, or where in G.R, it is. thanx :) Cori - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.TV-99-AD.com/hans/ http://TechnoTourist.org/ http://www.mp3.com/TV99AD - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] la-la techno...automat
I very much enjoy this PsychoDiscotek 2-fer offered up by Daniel Chavez on Automat Records (AUTO1)... So, is there more to be had..?.. and if so: titles, labels, recommendations..? as a friend and supporter of daniel im happy to know the music is getting out there. actually automat is in the works of releasing more 12s but lack of funding makes it tuff :( he does have a drum and bass record out with ezra g on some other label but as for techno, gonz and daniel (yup gonz produces with him too) are stay laying till the time is right -v _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Paul Oakenfold
I understand that no one on this list likes Trance. but I was just trying to get some info. Besides I love all things Electronic whether it's trance or Jungle so don't jump all over someone just because they asked about something you happen to hate. I happen to love being on this list but not when people are rude to someone who asks about something they hate or are not as informed about music as some other people may be.
Re: [313] BASTA!!! to liner notes comments
Mills is total. I was, back in the day, an English major, and spend time thinking about words, in addition to music, and I'm a fan of expressing yourself clearly and concisely. Remeber Mills was doing architecture school. While english majors may like to think about clarity of words- architects like to think about how to be as abstract and post-modern as possible. My place of employment houses an architecture library, and if you start reading some of the modern and post-modern architecture books, you'll probably think Mills' writing seems so clear and concise all of a sudden :) for real. ps. this thread is officially old. sorry for contributing to staleness..
Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold
Especially playing at the same venue that just held the Plus 8 party last weekend In a message dated 11/02/2000 1:37:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so if I was Oakie, I would *never* go to 313 because of the shame and embarrassment that would wash over me... darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com
ratio/central records
does anyone know where i can find some info on Ratio/Central Records/Hi-Lo etc. he's from vienna but that's about all i know i can find the discog on sonic groove but i would like to find out more about him as his style (along with Pacou/Sender Berlin and BC/CR stuff) is a big influence on me? thanks kao jyan
Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold
Well, people get tense because Paul Oakenfold is not an appropriate topic for the list. His personal musical evolution does not really have anything to do with Detroit music, culture, or 313. So one would expect sarcasm especially since there are so many trance-related email lists out there, along with websites, music magazines, etc. You're flame baiting here by discussing the common anti-heroes of electronic music. I hope no one has emailed you death threats or something like that, because people on this list should have enough respect to realize there are people out there that don't live on Woodward and only own KDJ records. Those people don't embody what 313 is either. oh well. n8 --On Thursday, November 02, 2000 1:16 PM -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that no one on this list likes Trance. but I was just trying to get some info. Besides I love all things Electronic whether it's trance or Jungle so don't jump all over someone just because they asked about something you happen to hate. I happen to love being on this list but not when people are rude to someone who asks about something they hate or are not as informed about music as some other people may be. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold
I understand that no one on this list likes Trance. but I was just trying to get some info. Besides I love all things Electronic whether it's trance or Jungle so don't jump all over someone just because they asked about something you happen to hate. I happen to love being on this list but not when people are rude to someone who asks about something they hate or are not as informed about music as some other people may be. to tell you the truthno one really even started getting rude yet -v _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
track id please !
Hey everybody, I was wondering if someone could tell me the name of a track doc martin uses a lot... all I can say about it is that at the begginning a woman says 'its so hairy and big' (disgusting...) :) Thanks for your time
new rhythm sound
for those who like rhythm sound i recommend to check out their latest 10 (whitelabel only) rhythm sound meet the chosen brothers: march down babylon available at hardwax recordstore. be quick, the release is limited to 500 copies :) ines http://www.circonium.de
RE: [313] Paul Oakenfold and Mad Mike connection!
i don't care to be informed about trance. i care to be informed about what mad mike is up to...what is he up to btw?? jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:16 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Paul Oakenfold I understand that no one on this list likes Trance. but I was just trying to get some info. Besides I love all things Electronic whether it's trance or Jungle so don't jump all over someone just because they asked about something you happen to hate. I happen to love being on this list but not when people are rude to someone who asks about something they hate or are not as informed about music as some other people may be. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold
hhmmm ... :( From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:57:29 -0800 uh oh... At 10:56 AM -0500 11/2/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, i heard that Paul Oakenfold is going to be in Grand Rapids either this weekend or next. does anyone have any info on that. i really want to go but i don't even know the date, info line, or where in G.R, it is. thanx :) Cori - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] new rhythm sound
rhythm sound meet the chosen brothers: march down babylon i forgot to mention it's a cover version of a wackie's classics. ines http://www.circonium.de
Re: [313] hawtin, deep chord, wild questions
anyone have any info on the deep chord guys apart from the www.deepchord.com site? their releases are excellent. Here's a hint: Put up your right hand and stare at the thumb. Speaking of, they've got a new CD out now. Is it a compilation of all of their releases so far, or are there any exclusive tracks. I'll be picking that up since I've missed the boat on this label but have been forced to ass shake any time someone drops it. i think they're from port huron/detroit, not thumbland, and i've seen a pre release cd and it says 1-6 on it. their vinyl goes from 7-9 as far as i know, which means the cd is earlier stuff (at least as catalog #'s go). but i may be wrong. but why should i speak, for i know nothing!
Re: [313] hawtin, deep chord, wild questions
Richie owned Minus 13 Below and it was torn down due to Chrysler buying the property to build a new headquarters. It was a small, cozy lounge that brought in some cool shows. I saw Kevin Saunderson, D Wynn, Pole, Chain Reaction, Clark Warner, Derrick May and more there. Here's a link to the old site: http://www.13below.com/13belowmain.html djr From: Kao Jyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] hawtin, deep chord, wild questions Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:23:19 -0500 i remember hearing about richie hawtin opening/running a club in windor a few years back. is there a story here or was i dreaming? anyone have any info on the deep chord guys apart from the www.deepchord.com site? their releases are excellent. also does anyone know of a history on damon wild anywhere on the web? any help is greatly appreciated. mr bloch - your stuff is cool as hell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] hawtin, deep chord, wild questions
Does Deep Chord have a direct relationship to Basic Channel? From: Nathan DeYonker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kao Jyan [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] hawtin, deep chord, wild questions Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 12:01:49 -0500 i remember hearing about richie hawtin opening/running a club in windor a few years back. is there a story here or was i dreaming? Was that 13 Below? Some pretty damn awesome nights there, but it's closed now. anyone have any info on the deep chord guys apart from the www.deepchord.com site? their releases are excellent. Here's a hint: Put up your right hand and stare at the thumb. Speaking of, they've got a new CD out now. Is it a compilation of all of their releases so far, or are there any exclusive tracks. I'll be picking that up since I've missed the boat on this label but have been forced to ass shake any time someone drops it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold-banned?
Paul can't play in 313 until the Michigan government lifts the anti-trance ban. Sorry Oakie fans. ;) djr From: darw_n [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org, Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:38:13 -0800 so if I was Oakie, I would *never* go to 313 because of the shame and embarrassment that would wash over me... darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com - Original Message - From: Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold Yes, Paul Oakenfold will be in the Detroit area. He will visit several locations to see some DJs in action and to learn what DJing is. Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:57 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold uh oh... At 10:56 AM -0500 11/2/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, i heard that Paul Oakenfold is going to be in Grand Rapids either this weekend or next. does anyone have any info on that. i really want to go but i don't even know the date, info line, or where in G.R, it is. thanx :) Cori - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.TV-99-AD.com/hans/ http://TechnoTourist.org/ http://www.mp3.com/TV99AD - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold
A well written reply / summary I think there. As an aside, I'm curious about this notion that music is good simply because it is electronic. Is this a widely held purist view? Would it follow then that because it is not electronic it is not good? ^_^ From: Nathan DeYonker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 14:37:26 -0500 Well, people get tense because Paul Oakenfold is not an appropriate topic for the list. His personal musical evolution does not really have anything to do with Detroit music, culture, or 313. So one would expect sarcasm especially since there are so many trance-related email lists out there, along with websites, music magazines, etc. You're flame baiting here by discussing the common anti-heroes of electronic music. I hope no one has emailed you death threats or something like that, because people on this list should have enough respect to realize there are people out there that don't live on Woodward and only own KDJ records. Those people don't embody what 313 is either. oh well. n8 --On Thursday, November 02, 2000 1:16 PM -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that no one on this list likes Trance. but I was just trying to get some info. Besides I love all things Electronic whether it's trance or Jungle so don't jump all over someone just because they asked about something you happen to hate. I happen to love being on this list but not when people are rude to someone who asks about something they hate or are not as informed about music as some other people may be. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: [[313] Paul Oakenfold]
the trick is to review the archives and obtain a good grasp of what this list is about. the 313 list needs to be centered in some way close to its original objective- the discussion of *Detroit* electronic music. of course, we all knew that anyways :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that no one on this list likes Trance. but I was just trying to get some info. Besides I love all things Electronic whether it's trance or Jungle so don't jump all over someone just because they asked about something you happen to hate. I happen to love being on this list but not when people are rude to someone who asks about something they hate or are not as informed about music as some other people may be. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
Jeff Mills TP on Thanksgiving Weekend - THE REAL STORY!
Greetings cats! I am taking time out of my busy schedule to write this e-mail because of a flyer which I received last night. This flyer is for the HOUSE EXPLOSION 2000 party scheduled to take place here in Detroit on Saturday, November 25th at the Majestic Theater. The flyer IMPLIES / INFERS that Delano Smith, Jeff Mills, and myself (TP) will be spinning this event along with the other scheduled DJs. The flyer reads as follows: House Explosion 2000 with sounds by house legends Rick The Godson Wilhite, Theo Parrish, Steve Crawford, Norm Talley, Keith Worthy, Al Ester . . . . PLUS SPECIAL INVITED GUESTS: Delano Smith, Jeff Mills, and Terrance Parker. Now beyond the obvious misspelling of my name, there is a much deeper attempt to deceive you good people with this flyer which is based upon an old school Detroit promotional trick which cats would use back when I was in high school in the 1980s. The promoter knows that just by putting our names on the flyer, that the word of mouth network here in Detroit will spread the word that we are all definitely spinning at this party. With all due and proper respect to my friends Rick, Theo, Norm, Keith, Al, Delano, and Jeff, I want to assure you that I, TERRENCE PARKER am NOT spinning at this event. I was asked to spin at this event while in the middle of my set at the beatdownsounds.com party two weeks ago. At that time, I told the promoter that I do NOT discuss business at clubs/parties, and that he should get with me AFTER I have finished my set so we could discuss a time when we could talk about his request. This cat tried to continue the conversation, even though I was CLEARLY in the act of performing my DJ set. Finally, I told this cat to leave the DJ booth. I never heard back from him, or heard anything else about this party until I received this flyer last night with my name on it. Furthermore, knowing JEFF as I do, I am sure he has NOTHING to do with this event. Jeff probably knows nothing about it. I also know that Jeff has specific feelings with regard to how his DJ bookings are handled (especially as they relate to events here in Detroit). I'm sure many of you on the 313 list, and cats here in Detroit remember the last big Jeff Mills controversy surrounding a Thanksgiving party here in Detroit (which was not Jeff's fault). So I have forwarded a copy of this e-mail to Jeff and his management. My guess is that Delano also did not commit to this event. Thus Delano, Jeff, and myself conveniently become know as special invited guest according to the flyer. Now maybe I'm wrong! Perhaps Jeff Delano are going to spin at this event. But knowing how the promoter approached me, and Steve Crawford, I seriously doubt it. I just want to make it clear that I AM NOT SPINNING AT THIS EVENT. I HAVE THE HIGHEST RESPECT FOR Rick Wilhite, Theo Parrish, Steve Crawford, Norm Talley, Keith Worthy, Al Ester, Delano Smith, AND Jeff Mills. I SUPPORT THEM! I DO NOT SUPPORT, NOR WILL I ENDORSE THIS EVENT IN ANYWAY. These cats had no authorization to use my name in ANY MANNER in connection with their event. ON THAT SAME NOTE, the Trancended cats behind the Won't You Be My Neighbor party on DEC 8 2000 in Detroit, have also used my name without my authorization. Their E-Flyer courtesy of the ravedata.com site reads as follows: With performances by Craig Gonzalez, Terrence Parker, Derek Plaisako, CDX, Whistleboi, Saul Good, Legal Alien, Interzone, Tom Linder, Big Loda Again, with all due respect to T.Linder, Derek, CDX and the other DJs involved with this event, I want to make it clear that I am NOT spinning at this event. These cats had no authorization to use my name in ANY MANNER in connection with their event. This matter regarding both the November 25th and December 8th events is now in the hands of my legal team. Any further attempts to misappropriate my name and/or likeness will not be tolerated. peace respect, TP www.TerrenceParker.com 1.248.784.7233
Re: [Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold]
Nathan DeYonker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're flame baiting here by discussing the common anti-heroes of electronic music. I hope no one has emailed you death threats or something like that, because people on this list should have enough respect to realize there are people out there that don't live on Woodward and only own KDJ records. Those people don't embody what 313 is either. oh well. n8 I think the list is about being open-minded but the discussion needs to deal with Detroit and Detroit-influenced (the global impact of Detroit) music. And being open-minded I don't own just all Axis recordings. I'm interested in all aspects of the music and the artists who put their soul into the work and keep that feeling real, so it would be nice if 313 stayed away from the Oakie talk but also kept a broad base. more 2 cents, thanks for reading. Brooks Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold
one thing that may tie oakie to 313, albeit a long stretch, is that Oakie was pretty a founder of the Manchester acid houseparty scene (not THE founder, but an important player) which was using music that generally was coming from the midwest here... darw_n create, demonstrate, toneshift... http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com - Original Message - From: laura gavoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold Don't get us wrong... Oakenfold is truly a good DJ at what he does, but understand that Trance is Eurocized and considerably watered down Techno which 313 birthed so passionately and overly-clever, mainly British AR folks have been banking considerably off of for nearly a decade. It is a classic case of Imitators getting the glory and getting paid for cheesing up what historically Black American musical Innovators have produced and done okay financially with. Oakey's people have hyped him to a level that commands big revenues, but I'll take ANY 313 artist/deejay over him any day of the week, trance just ain't got enough soul to satisfy most 313ers. Ain't no booty in that trance... Longevity is the key to this music marketing game and the most hyped artists usually come crashing down the hardest. In it to Win It :) Laura From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Paul Oakenfold Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:16:06 -0500 I understand that no one on this list likes Trance. but I was just trying to get some info. Besides I love all things Electronic whether it's trance or Jungle so don't jump all over someone just because they asked about something you happen to hate. I happen to love being on this list but not when people are rude to someone who asks about something they hate or are not as informed about music as some other people may be. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
deep chord cd
hello, anyone have any info on the deep chord guys apart from the www.deepchord.com site? their releases are excellent. Here's a hint: Put up your right hand and stare at the thumb. not really, there are detroit based people as well, but I promised to keep my mouth shut. Speaking of, they've got a new CD out now. limited edition too, only 1,000 pressed. Is it a compilation of all of their releases so far, or are there any exclusive tracks. Deepchord's discography is interesting in that the first 6 releases on the label were dub plates. This CD is a collection of the first 6 Deepchord records. From what I understand these tracks are not going to be pressed to vinyl, so they are only available on the CD. If you would like to hear the tracks, they are available on the website. I'll be picking that up since I've missed the boat on this label but have been forced to ass shake any time someone drops it. Call down to recordtime roseville, there might still be a few copies hanging around, 7,8, and 9 are the only ones available on vinyl. Definitely a label worth checking out, I like their stuff better than most Chain Reaction. shake it fass, mt NP : Sutekh : Periods.Make.Sense I can't wait for tonight! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Paul Oakenfold
CForsman Check out Derrick May or Stacey Pullen when they play in Detroit - people in this part of the world talk about their sets for days, years, after and they are fabulous. Go and support Juan Atkins for some real grooves. I bet their are others I/we haven't seen too. Oakenfold is in Australia this weekend with Chicane, not Grand Rapids, and we are trying to escape him by going to Ishii and/or Recloose/Common Factor, running away to the desert, forest, etc. Cheers C From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Paul Oakenfold Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:16:06 -0500 I understand that no one on this list likes Trance. but I was just trying to get some info. Besides I love all things Electronic whether it's trance or Jungle so don't jump all over someone just because they asked about something you happen to hate. I happen to love being on this list but not when people are rude to someone who asks about something they hate or are not as informed about music as some other people may be.
RE: [313] track id please !
That would be 'Dick By The Pound' by Dj Assault Mr Ade. Peace, Patrick... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 3 November 2000 6:07 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] track id please ! Hey everybody, I was wondering if someone could tell me the name of a track doc martin uses a lot... all I can say about it is that at the begginning a woman says 'its so hairy and big' (disgusting...) :) Thanks for your time - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Ken Ishii
Hello- He is being described as a Derrick May type DJ, so we'll see - funky, soulful and diverse! Has anyone experienced Ken's sets - what can we expect? I was lucky enough to catch Ken Ishii here in Chicago a few weeks back and thoroughly enjoyed it. I didn't know exactly what to expect, as I heard he plays a lot of stuff out of leftfield which doesn't necessarily keep a dancefloor going. But, this was not the case. He started off very housey, perhaps following where the opening DJ left off. Then, he moved into what I can only describe as 'experimental funk.' I wish I could describe it better, but nonetheless, it was very nice. His last hour consisted of funky techno with some Detroit here and there (Mills' Jaguar mix, Stings of Life, Clinically Inclined). Although, I did picture him being a bit taller ;-) All and all, a very good night. I can't wait until he comes to town again. He seems to visit Chicago on a semi-regular basis, as do most DJs. I would highly recommend checking him out. Cheers, John
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