Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Interestingly Ishita, a lot of the things you feel and write about are true! society does not want us around! But, it is about time they begin to think differently! Someone has to make a beginning to bring about the change! So why not us? We have only 2 choices, either to sit around and take what the world wants to give us, or get up and first convince ourselves and then go out there and make place for us! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:52 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners My father works with reliance industry since 30 years. He has never seen any blind person working in that company. And I have observed that blind persons are working with government institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000 So please don’t tell that we are getting jobs just because ability. We are getting job because reservation. I don’t want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But society is not ready to accept us as a working people. i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me. can i consider them fool? On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Dear Prashant, Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up! Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there. Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the socializing factor going! It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not because of their disabiity. Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Prashant Verma Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM To: accessindia@accessindia. in Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything on this could attract all types of comments, still I am putting down my views. Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more about what should be the ideal scenario. The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not willing to marry any visually impaired at all. If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control. Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors. I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them. What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled partner then it may help solve few practical problems but then a visually impaired partner also takes care of many other matters. When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like caste, religion etc should
Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Inspirational lectures also play a great part in what we make our lives to be! It is amazing what men, blind or not, think about vives! Not many consider us as life partners... most of us vives are there to serve the role of house keeper, maid, mother of children, cooks and someone where our husbands can take out their frustrations! Very few men even consider us as individuals like themselves! Therefore, when looking for wives, there are many many other things that have to be taken into account... not only a friend and partner of life! The thing which is known and understood before marriage as 'love', flies out of the window maximum before the first month of marriage is over! Then the story begins! Maybe, that is one of the factors which is driving us all to continue to look for service providers instead of actual husbands and wives? Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:59 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Yes, private sector hardly accepts blind employees. reservation has a very useful purpose in government sector. In marriage, though I am lucky to get a post graduate wife without a major compromise, but I endorse the fact that many blind persons do a lot of compromise for getting a sighted partner. They are not fools. The hard realities of life go beyond any inspirational lectures. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:52 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners My father works with reliance industry since 30 years. He has never seen any blind person working in that company. And I have observed that blind persons are working with government institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000 So please don’t tell that we are getting jobs just because ability. We are getting job because reservation. I don’t want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But society is not ready to accept us as a working people. i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me. can i consider them fool? On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Dear Prashant, Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up! Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there. Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the socializing factor going! It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not because of their disabiity. Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Prashant Verma Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM To: accessindia@accessindia. in Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything on this could attract all types of comments, still I am putting down my
Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Good Preeti madam. This is not need of society, This is our need to make a place in society. However, I have also An opportunity to spend my life with sighted girl, she is TGT teacher in school. On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Interestingly Ishita, a lot of the things you feel and write about are true! society does not want us around! But, it is about time they begin to think differently! Someone has to make a beginning to bring about the change! So why not us? We have only 2 choices, either to sit around and take what the world wants to give us, or get up and first convince ourselves and then go out there and make place for us! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:52 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners My father works with reliance industry since 30 years. He has never seen any blind person working in that company. And I have observed that blind persons are working with government institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000 So please don't tell that we are getting jobs just because ability. We are getting job because reservation. I don't want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But society is not ready to accept us as a working people. i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me. can i consider them fool? On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Dear Prashant, Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up! Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there. Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the socializing factor going! It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not because of their disabiity. Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Prashant Verma Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM To: accessindia@accessindia. in Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything on this could attract all types of comments, still I am putting down my views. Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more about what should be the ideal scenario. The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not willing to marry any visually impaired at all. If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control. Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors. I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them. What matters
Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
On 7/3/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: My father works with reliance industry since 30 years. He has never seen any blind person working in that company. And I have observed that blind persons are working with government institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000 So please don't tell that we are getting jobs just because ability. We are getting job because reservation. I don't want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But society is not ready to accept us as a working people. i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me. can i consider them fool? On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Dear Prashant, Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up! Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there. Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the socializing factor going! It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not because of their disabiity. Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Prashant Verma Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM To: accessindia@accessindia. in Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything on this could attract all types of comments, still I am putting down my views. Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more about what should be the ideal scenario. The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not willing to marry any visually impaired at all. If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control. Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors. I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them. What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled partner then it may help solve few practical problems but then a visually impaired partner also takes care of many other matters. When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration. I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the marriageable age are not ready to accept visually impaird partners. Finally they have to make comprimises. Girls sighted or disabled are generally seen to be more open minded and accommodating. It will indeed be great if visually impaired socialize more in the non-disabled community. It will enhance their personality and at the same time will increase chances of finding partners. I am partially sighted and married to a totally blind woman. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: 02 July 2014 14:10 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic. Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid. I have 40 percent vision. And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in dream unless he has social or economical problems. In that case a guy will marry me if he won't get
Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Dear Ishita, I agree with you that it is hard to get the jobs in the corporate sector but would just like to correct you that all the blind employees working in corporate/private sector do not get their salary in the figure of 6-7 thousand rupees. I can assure you that blind employees of the corporate sector also earn in lacks or in decent amount as far as salary is concerned. Also bear in the mind that reservation is not applicable in the private sector. Hence mostly visually impaired employees got the job here in the private sector because of their ability and capabilities. Well the topic of work and remuneration is a different than what we have been discussing but I've just written you to show the correct scenario in the corporate world. Warm regards, Amit Bhatt Sr. Software Accessibility Testing engineer - QA Infotech pvt. Ltd. http://www.qainfotech.net Moderator - SayEverything, an international mailing list dedicated to people with cross disabilities http://www.sayeverything.org Skype: amitbhattindia FB: facebook.com/amit.bhatt.52643 M: 91 9560175887 A player makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. On 7/3/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: My father works with reliance industry since 30 years. He has never seen any blind person working in that company. And I have observed that blind persons are working with government institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000 So please don't tell that we are getting jobs just because ability. We are getting job because reservation. I don't want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But society is not ready to accept us as a working people. i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me. can i consider them fool? On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Dear Prashant, Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up! Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there. Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the socializing factor going! It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not because of their disabiity. Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Prashant Verma Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM To: accessindia@accessindia. in Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything on this could attract all types of comments, still I am putting down my views. Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more about what should be the ideal scenario. The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not willing to marry any visually impaired at all. If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control. Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors. I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them. What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled partner then it may help solve few practical problems but then a visually impaired partner also takes care of many other matters. When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration. I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing
Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
A lot of content has been shared on this topic over the past few days. Great experiences have been shared. Issues have been hotly debated and still I do not think any conclusion has been arrived at or for that matter none will be arrived at. The law of gravity states that anything that is thrown up will fall to the ground. This is an absolute truth and fact. No debate. As far as blind people marrying blind people or blind persons marrying sighted persons experiences are varied and I do not think there can be an absolutestand on it. Perceptions, attitude, education family backgrounds, exposure, all of this would contribute. No marriage can be looked down upon. It is about two people coming together. Every relationship is possible. Further the reasons for which people marry also can vary. This too can have an impact on how the marriage works out. So I do not think anyone is right or wrong here since all of us are speaking from experiences either lived or seen. So if someone asks the question can a blind man marry a sighted woman or the other way around, my simple answer would be yes. It depends entirely on the two people involved and their circumstances. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: 03 July 2014 10:52 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners My father works with reliance industry since 30 years. He has never seen any blind person working in that company. And I have observed that blind persons are working with government institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000 So please don’t tell that we are getting jobs just because ability. We are getting job because reservation. I don’t want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But society is not ready to accept us as a working people. i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me. can i consider them fool? On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Dear Prashant, Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up! Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there. Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the socializing factor going! It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not because of their disabiity. Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Prashant Verma Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM To: accessindia@accessindia. in Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything on this could attract all types of comments, still I am putting down my views. Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more about what should be the ideal scenario. The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not willing to marry any visually impaired at all. If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control. Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors. I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them. What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled partner then it may help solve few practical problems but then a visually impaired partner also takes care of many other
Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Great! Now there is something more I wish to add here. We blind people somehow imagine that we are very smart and fashonable and upto date. Now please don't take me wrong again. We seem to forget that sighted people can actually see, and there are so many little things in our body language, dress, behaviour, style and gestures that can make us look odd and funny and out of place in the sighted world! Most of us do not even know of this, and sighted friends, family and other members of the sighted society don't have the heart or the courage to tell us about what we are doing wrong! I too am approaching this subject with a little fear in my heart... fear of again being misunderstood! Pointing out faults of others is not a good thing anyway, then can you imagine how difficult it is to point out faults of blind people to them is? So even some sighted person does want to marry a blind person, for she/he is in love with her/him, this sighted person just may not be able to do so because of the fact below: First of all people are going to point at me for marrying a blind partner. Then this blind guy/ girl has such a strange habit/manner/way of dressing/way of eating/way of shaking around etc. It is going to be so embarrassing having him/her around! I know he/she is so wonderful a person, and I love him/her so much, but I dont have the heart to correct him/her! What will my friends say? What will my relatives think? He/she looks so funny/strange/odd! Now do you get my point? Here you cannot look like or behave like a pumpkin in a plate of potatoes! You have to at least look close to a potato to get accepted in a plate of potatoes! Otherwise it is going to be very difficult to get you through! You can taste like a pumpkin but at least you have to look like a potato, or at least close to it! I wonder if I have made my point clear? There is a lot of introspection we need to do here. Where is the trouble, we are going on and on talking about the same things and landing no where. I think we now need to find solutions to the reasons that are coming in our way of mainstreaming. Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Harish Kapoor Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:37 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Good Preeti madam. This is not need of society, This is our need to make a place in society. However, I have also An opportunity to spend my life with sighted girl, she is TGT teacher in school. On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Interestingly Ishita, a lot of the things you feel and write about are true! society does not want us around! But, it is about time they begin to think differently! Someone has to make a beginning to bring about the change! So why not us? We have only 2 choices, either to sit around and take what the world wants to give us, or get up and first convince ourselves and then go out there and make place for us! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:52 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners My father works with reliance industry since 30 years. He has never seen any blind person working in that company. And I have observed that blind persons are working with government institutes such as banks schools etc
Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Great thank you Amit! We have to stop behaving like ostriches with our heads stuffed under the sand! The head needs to come up and we need to take a look around at what all is available out there, and how are we going to get some for ourselves as well. Including marriage and love. Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amit Bhatt Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:58 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, I agree with you that it is hard to get the jobs in the corporate sector but would just like to correct you that all the blind employees working in corporate/private sector do not get their salary in the figure of 6-7 thousand rupees. I can assure you that blind employees of the corporate sector also earn in lacks or in decent amount as far as salary is concerned. Also bear in the mind that reservation is not applicable in the private sector. Hence mostly visually impaired employees got the job here in the private sector because of their ability and capabilities. Well the topic of work and remuneration is a different than what we have been discussing but I've just written you to show the correct scenario in the corporate world. Warm regards, Amit Bhatt Sr. Software Accessibility Testing engineer - QA Infotech pvt. Ltd. http://www.qainfotech.net Moderator - SayEverything, an international mailing list dedicated to people with cross disabilities http://www.sayeverything.org Skype: amitbhattindia FB: facebook.com/amit.bhatt.52643 M: 91 9560175887 A player makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. On 7/3/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: My father works with reliance industry since 30 years. He has never seen any blind person working in that company. And I have observed that blind persons are working with government institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000 So please don't tell that we are getting jobs just because ability. We are getting job because reservation. I don't want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But society is not ready to accept us as a working people. i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me. can i consider them fool? On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Dear Prashant, Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up! Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there. Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the socializing factor going! It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not because of their disabiity. Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Prashant Verma Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM To: accessindia@accessindia. in Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything on this could attract all types of comments, still I am putting down my views. Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more about what
Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of sighted person not because of he or she is sighted but many reasons other vice. Or if we are rejected by sighted person, it might not be related to our blindness. Let me have the courage to make the statement, Many of we blind people have the habit to relate our rejection (not only in marriages but also in jobs and other sectors) to our blindness, but I am sure that if we are appealing to the required party then our blindness should not be of great concern. Yes having some doubt about our work efficiency is quite natural in the case of sighted partner, this may not be the case if we are engaged with blind partner. This is the time when we have to show our ability (not only through talking but also through working). Marrying to a sighted person or vice versa cannot guaranty of successful married life. It has very little to do with our blindness. I have married to a blind girl, We have not accepted each other because we are blind, blindness is just is a coincidence. Let me put in other words, My life partner happends to be a person with blindness. When we are in a hunt of life partner, we cannot over estimate the ability of sighted person and we should not under estimate the ability of blind partner. On 7/2/14, Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Bhawani bhai, nice quotes! The key point is that there has to be some self-interest for both the parties otherwise the friendship will end. A person with financial poverty and emotional richness can provide emotional support to the emotionally poor but financially rich one and thus can be equal in status. Can we apply it on a blind marrying a sighted? Disagree with it, but I won't - especially after seeing so many examples on Access India. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 02 July 2014 07:13 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Never make friends with people who are above or below you in status. Such friendships will never give you any happiness. - Chanakya There is some self-interest behind every friendship. There is no friendship without self-interests. This is a bitter truth. - Chanakya both quotations should also be applied regarding partnership. marriage is a social partnership between to parties where they have joined each other to satisfy their physical and emotional desires. - Original Message - From: aditi shah shahaditi1...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 6:24 PM Subject: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Hi there everyone, Have been reading this discussion since a few days, so felt like expressing my views as well. We are all humans blind or not, and we have our own set of skills. There might be areas we are extremely good at or there might be areas we cannot do much, in case of us blind it may be because of our disability whereas incase of sighted it might be due to other reasons. According to me, a happy married life demands a set of some basic skills, like understanding, cooking, up bringing of kids, earning, socializing, etc. Again, these basic requirements differ depending on what kind of a lifestyle one has. So, in my view, it does not really matter whether we are marrying a sighted or a blind, what matters is whether our's and our partner's skills can meet those basic requirements or not. Considering this, I disagree from the belief that if a blind has to marry a sighted, he has to make compromises like marrying someone economically or intellectually weaker than us. If a blind who is earning well or is from a well-to-do family or may be is extremely qualified marries a sighted from a weaker economic background or qualification, it is not a compromise as far as both partners together possess the required skills. Even if a blind is marrying a blind, and both of them can manage to do the required things, may be in ways different than the normal world, they can indeed have a successful married life. So, it is not about being blind or sighted, it is always about finding that someone such that with understanding, you can both match up for each other's shortcomings. Life partners are like two pieces of a puzzle, one has to find the other half that fits perfectly, lest we got to spend our entire life filling the gaps. Regards, aditi Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_acc essindia.org.in
Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
You are very right! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Zoher Kheriwala Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of sighted person not because of he or she is sighted but many reasons other vice. Or if we are rejected by sighted person, it might not be related to our blindness. Let me have the courage to make the statement, Many of we blind people have the habit to relate our rejection (not only in marriages but also in jobs and other sectors) to our blindness, but I am sure that if we are appealing to the required party then our blindness should not be of great concern. Yes having some doubt about our work efficiency is quite natural in the case of sighted partner, this may not be the case if we are engaged with blind partner. This is the time when we have to show our ability (not only through talking but also through working). Marrying to a sighted person or vice versa cannot guaranty of successful married life. It has very little to do with our blindness. I have married to a blind girl, We have not accepted each other because we are blind, blindness is just is a coincidence. Let me put in other words, My life partner happends to be a person with blindness. When we are in a hunt of life partner, we cannot over estimate the ability of sighted person and we should not under estimate the ability of blind partner. On 7/2/14, Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Bhawani bhai, nice quotes! The key point is that there has to be some self-interest for both the parties otherwise the friendship will end. A person with financial poverty and emotional richness can provide emotional support to the emotionally poor but financially rich one and thus can be equal in status. Can we apply it on a blind marrying a sighted? Disagree with it, but I won't - especially after seeing so many examples on Access India. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 02 July 2014 07:13 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Never make friends with people who are above or below you in status. Such friendships will never give you any happiness. - Chanakya There is some self-interest behind every friendship. There is no friendship without self-interests. This is a bitter truth. - Chanakya both quotations should also be applied regarding partnership. marriage is a social partnership between to parties where they have joined each other to satisfy their physical and emotional desires. - Original Message - From: aditi shah shahaditi1...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 6:24 PM Subject: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Hi there everyone, Have been reading this discussion since a few days, so felt like expressing my views as well. We are all humans blind or not, and we have our own set of skills. There might be areas we are extremely good at or there might be areas we cannot do much, in case of us blind it may be because of our disability whereas incase of sighted it might be due to other reasons. According to me, a happy married life demands a set of some basic skills, like understanding, cooking, up bringing of kids, earning, socializing, etc. Again, these basic requirements differ depending on what kind of a lifestyle one has. So, in my view, it does not really matter whether we are marrying a sighted or a blind, what matters is whether our's and our partner's skills can meet those basic requirements or not. Considering this, I disagree from the belief that if a blind has to marry a sighted, he has to make compromises like marrying someone economically or intellectually weaker than
Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic. Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid. I have 40 percent vision. And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in dream unless he has social or economical problems. In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather any girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity. Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity. And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief. Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all aspects I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs. The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man. And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu to tariff kar saku. I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all youngsters that please don’t do this. Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun ya chahti hun. On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: You are very right! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Zoher Kheriwala Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of sighted person not because of he or she is sighted but many reasons other vice. Or if we are rejected by sighted person, it might not be related to our blindness. Let me have the courage to make the statement, Many of we blind people have the habit to relate our rejection (not only in marriages but also in jobs and other sectors) to our blindness, but I am sure that if we are appealing to the required party then our blindness should not be of great concern. Yes having some doubt about our work efficiency is quite natural in the case of sighted partner, this may not be the case if we are engaged with blind partner. This is the time when we have to show our ability (not only through talking but also through working). Marrying to a sighted person or vice versa cannot guaranty of successful married life. It has very little to do with our blindness. I have married to a blind girl, We have not accepted each other because we are blind, blindness is just is a coincidence. Let me put in other words, My life partner happends to be a person with blindness. When we are in a hunt of life partner, we cannot over estimate the ability of sighted person and we should not under estimate the ability of blind partner. On 7/2/14, Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Bhawani bhai, nice quotes! The key point is that there has to be some self-interest for both the parties otherwise the friendship will end. A person with financial poverty and emotional richness can provide emotional support to the emotionally poor but financially rich one and thus can be equal in status. Can we apply it on a blind marrying a sighted? Disagree with it, but I won't - especially after seeing so many examples on Access India. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 02 July 2014 07:13 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Never make friends with people who are above or below you in status. Such friendships will never give you any happiness. - Chanakya There is some self-interest behind every friendship. There is no friendship without self-interests. This is a bitter truth. - Chanakya both quotations should also be applied regarding partnership. marriage is a social partnership between to parties where they have joined each other
Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
very true rajesh sir, compromise or rare. you summed up properly which i couldn't On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well said Ishita. Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without compromise are rare.. Please remember beggars are not choosers -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic. Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid. I have 40 percent vision. And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in dream unless he has social or economical problems. In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather any girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity. Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity. And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief. Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all aspects I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs. The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man. And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu to tariff kar saku. I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all youngsters that please don’t do this. Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun ya chahti hun. On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: You are very right! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Zoher Kheriwala Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of sighted person not because of he or she is sighted but many reasons other vice. Or if we are rejected by sighted person, it might not be related to our blindness. Let me have the courage to make the statement, Many of we blind people have the habit to relate our rejection (not only in marriages but also in jobs and other sectors) to our blindness, but I am sure that if we are appealing to the required party then our blindness should not be of great concern. Yes having some doubt about our work efficiency is quite natural in the case of sighted partner, this may not be the case if we are engaged with blind partner. This is the time when we have to show our ability (not only through talking but also through working). Marrying to a sighted person or vice versa cannot guaranty of successful married life. It has very little to do with our blindness. I have married to a blind girl, We have not accepted each other because we are blind, blindness is just is a coincidence. Let me put in other words, My life partner happends to be a person with blindness. When we are in a hunt of life partner, we cannot over estimate the ability of sighted person and we should not under estimate the ability of blind partner. On 7/2/14, Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Bhawani bhai, nice quotes! The key point is that there has to be some self-interest for both the parties otherwise the friendship will end. A person with financial poverty and emotional richness can provide emotional support to the emotionally poor but financially rich one and thus can be equal in status. Can we apply it on a blind marrying a sighted? Disagree with it, but I won't - especially after seeing so many examples on Access India. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
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Dear Ishita, Why so pessimistic my dear? I am not trying to motivate you or anyone else. I am just stating facts. First of all where did you get the idea that anyone should marry us blind women for charity purpose! Not at all! But I am not blaming you for thinking like that. These are normal thoughts we Indians are conditioned to believe. You may not want to marry a person without hands or legs, that is perfectly up to you. It is OK if you feel like that. The point we are trying to make here is, that it need not be blindness that determines the criterion for marriage, it is the person in totality that matters. Your skills, personality, talents, values and what you have to offer by way of warmth, love, commitment and friendship that should matter. If you are blind or not, should not matter at all. Now, I have no sight at all, and I know that no one wants to marry blind women, not even blind men prefer to marry us! But, having said that, I wish to tell you that there are some very wonderful marriages that have happened for blind women with sighted non disabled men. And when you look at these cases, it is very encouraging and motivating. Maybe, if more of us share our positive experiences, young intelligent women like you may look at this subject differently. Let us together discover what we need to do to become desirable and sought after life partners for good men, sighted or not. Where do you live? Can you come on the 3rd August for the Fusion meet? If so, do make it,. If not anything else, we will have an opportunity to meet and get to know each other. You come across to be a wonderful young woman, and I am sure you have countless excellent hidden talents and attributes that are not visible to you. Let us together learn to discover ourselves; thereafter develop our hidden potentials and give away much more of ourselves to this beautiful world. We can continue to grow in every way; and carve out a great life for us! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic. Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid. I have 40 percent vision. And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in dream unless he has social or economical problems. In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather any girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity. Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity. And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief. Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all aspects I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs. The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man. And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu to tariff kar saku. I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all youngsters that please don’t do this. Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun ya chahti hun. On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: You are very right! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Zoher
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Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating towards ourselves as beggers! Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we going to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very beginning. Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to do this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us differently? The world perceives you in the same way that you look at yourself! Please remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we are choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way we get treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what you will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by conditioning. Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best and we have equal right and equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the best of your abilities, and your rights will come running after you! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Well said Ishita. Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without compromise are rare.. Please remember beggars are not choosers -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic. Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid. I have 40 percent vision. And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in dream unless he has social or economical problems. In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather any girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity. Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity. And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief. Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all aspects I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs. The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man. And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu to tariff kar saku. I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all youngsters that please don’t do this. Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun ya chahti hun. On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: You are very right! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Zoher Kheriwala Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility
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If you are blind or not, should not matter at all!! Madam there is a gulf of difference between what is and what ought to be... And why not? I am blind. It should matter for my spouse very much. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:37 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, Why so pessimistic my dear? I am not trying to motivate you or anyone else. I am just stating facts. First of all where did you get the idea that anyone should marry us blind women for charity purpose! Not at all! But I am not blaming you for thinking like that. These are normal thoughts we Indians are conditioned to believe. You may not want to marry a person without hands or legs, that is perfectly up to you. It is OK if you feel like that. The point we are trying to make here is, that it need not be blindness that determines the criterion for marriage, it is the person in totality that matters. Your skills, personality, talents, values and what you have to offer by way of warmth, love, commitment and friendship that should matter. If you are blind or not, should not matter at all. Now, I have no sight at all, and I know that no one wants to marry blind women, not even blind men prefer to marry us! But, having said that, I wish to tell you that there are some very wonderful marriages that have happened for blind women with sighted non disabled men. And when you look at these cases, it is very encouraging and motivating. Maybe, if more of us share our positive experiences, young intelligent women like you may look at this subject differently. Let us together discover what we need to do to become desirable and sought after life partners for good men, sighted or not. Where do you live? Can you come on the 3rd August for the Fusion meet? If so, do make it,. If not anything else, we will have an opportunity to meet and get to know each other. You come across to be a wonderful young woman, and I am sure you have countless excellent hidden talents and attributes that are not visible to you. Let us together learn to discover ourselves; thereafter develop our hidden potentials and give away much more of ourselves to this beautiful world. We can continue to grow in every way; and carve out a great life for us! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic. Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid. I have 40 percent vision. And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in dream unless he has social or economical problems. In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather any girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity. Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity. And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief. Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all aspects I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs. The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man. And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu to tariff kar saku. I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all youngsters that please don’t do this. Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun ya chahti hun. On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: You are very right! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive
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Dear preety madam, I can understand through your real example that marriage between disable and non disable is not always disastrous But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative. If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should accept blind person? Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality. Blindness is big problem. Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing. Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people will know me by my blindness more then my real name. If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has done really great job. If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik se nahi kar paai. Blindness will always come first in our over all personality. People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind life partner. Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only. On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating towards ourselves as beggers! Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we going to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very beginning. Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to do this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us differently? The world perceives you in the same way that you look at yourself! Please remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we are choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way we get treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what you will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by conditioning. Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best and we have equal right and equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the best of your abilities, and your rights will come running after you! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Well said Ishita. Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without compromise are rare.. Please remember beggars are not choosers -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic. Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid. I have 40 percent vision. And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in dream unless he has social or economical problems. In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather any girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity. Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity. And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief. Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all aspects I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs. The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man. And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu to tariff kar saku. I don’t have
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We can charm the world with our personality. But a able bodied person has right to choose equal life partner and we can’t take away this right by just motivating ourself. eye plays important part in over all personality. and it plays bigger role in marriage market. On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: Dear preety madam, I can understand through your real example that marriage between disable and non disable is not always disastrous But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative. If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should accept blind person? Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality. Blindness is big problem. Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing. Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people will know me by my blindness more then my real name. If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has done really great job. If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik se nahi kar paai. Blindness will always come first in our over all personality. People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind life partner. Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only. On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating towards ourselves as beggers! Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we going to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very beginning. Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to do this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us differently? The world perceives you in the same way that you look at yourself! Please remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we are choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way we get treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what you will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by conditioning. Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best and we have equal right and equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the best of your abilities, and your rights will come running after you! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Well said Ishita. Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without compromise are rare.. Please remember beggars are not choosers -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic. Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid. I have 40 percent vision. And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in dream unless he has social or economical problems. In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather any girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity. Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity. And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief. Because everyone has right to choose
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I think we are lacking self esteem to a very large digree! Not anyones fault, but we now need to become aware of this fact and start taking responsibility to work on this positively. The very fact that all this is surfacing here is a great positive sign! At least when we begin to define and diagnose the issues, we are on the way to find solutions and treat the trouble! Thank you for participating on this mail thread. Let us hold on to each other and help each other out of this pit of low self esteem and confidence! For if this elite group is suffering from this, can you imagine what is the condition of the huge numbers of blind people who are so much less fortunate than many of us? First of all we have to help ourselves, only then we can begin to pull others with us! We are the ones who will make the change for the better for all of us. Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:36 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners very true rajesh sir, compromise or rare. you summed up properly which i couldn't On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well said Ishita. Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without compromise are rare.. Please remember beggars are not choosers -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic. Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid. I have 40 percent vision. And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in dream unless he has social or economical problems. In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather any girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity. Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity. And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief. Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all aspects I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs. The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man. And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu to tariff kar saku. I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all youngsters that please don’t do this. Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun ya chahti hun. On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: You are very right! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Zoher Kheriwala Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of sighted
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Priti jee you have not understood what I said. society leaves blind or other disadvantaged with very less choice. I too have married a sighted girl and a few blind friends of mine have married sighted boys and girls. but it does not make the world rosy. Self perception matters, but it should be realistic. Then only can you bring about a few positive changes in yourself and in the world around. Saying that all is well, is the greatest euphimism. Blindness is a really major challenge to be lived with and the spouse must understand it well. So, blindness does not matter argument is fallacious. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear preety madam, I can understand through your real example that marriage between disable and non disable is not always disastrous But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative. If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should accept blind person? Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality. Blindness is big problem. Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing. Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people will know me by my blindness more then my real name. If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has done really great job. If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik se nahi kar paai. Blindness will always come first in our over all personality. People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind life partner. Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only. On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating towards ourselves as beggers! Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we going to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very beginning. Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to do this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us differently? The world perceives you in the same way that you look at yourself! Please remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we are choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way we get treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what you will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by conditioning. Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best and we have equal right and equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the best of your abilities, and your rights will come running after you! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Well said Ishita. Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without compromise are rare.. Please remember beggars are not choosers -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic. Preety madam
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I am blind too! Yes it does matter to my spouse... he takes great care to keep things where they belong, he takes care not to leave me alone on the street and I in return make sure he eats his fruits everyday! So where is the problem? Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:47 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners If you are blind or not, should not matter at all!! Madam there is a gulf of difference between what is and what ought to be... And why not? I am blind. It should matter for my spouse very much. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:37 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, Why so pessimistic my dear? I am not trying to motivate you or anyone else. I am just stating facts. First of all where did you get the idea that anyone should marry us blind women for charity purpose! Not at all! But I am not blaming you for thinking like that. These are normal thoughts we Indians are conditioned to believe. You may not want to marry a person without hands or legs, that is perfectly up to you. It is OK if you feel like that. The point we are trying to make here is, that it need not be blindness that determines the criterion for marriage, it is the person in totality that matters. Your skills, personality, talents, values and what you have to offer by way of warmth, love, commitment and friendship that should matter. If you are blind or not, should not matter at all. Now, I have no sight at all, and I know that no one wants to marry blind women, not even blind men prefer to marry us! But, having said that, I wish to tell you that there are some very wonderful marriages that have happened for blind women with sighted non disabled men. And when you look at these cases, it is very encouraging and motivating. Maybe, if more of us share our positive experiences, young intelligent women like you may look at this subject differently. Let us together discover what we need to do to become desirable and sought after life partners for good men, sighted or not. Where do you live? Can you come on the 3rd August for the Fusion meet? If so, do make it,. If not anything else, we will have an opportunity to meet and get to know each other. You come across to be a wonderful young woman, and I am sure you have countless excellent hidden talents and attributes that are not visible to you. Let us together learn to discover ourselves; thereafter develop our hidden potentials and give away much more of ourselves to this beautiful world. We can continue to grow in every way; and carve out a great life for us! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic. Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid. I have 40 percent vision. And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in dream unless he has social
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When did I say blindness does not matter? I have been totally blind all my life and also am a womam! I was rejected for marriage by at least 150 men, both blind and sighted! But, then I took matters into my own hands! Things changed! I worked upon my positive points, still do, and as you know, have married twice! I even decided to leave my first husband after trying to work that marriage for 11 years! Remarried again and this time I learnt and we are happy! We make our reality all of us! Reality is what you make of it... but, it is a huge responsibility to take on all that I am talking about! The world will slowly change, it is changing, and we need to help make the change. No one likes to share things with others. So the easiest way to not share good things with others, is to point out any old thing about them and say that because of that we are not good enough to deserve our rightful place in the society! And for us blind people, we are functioning in this world, a world which has been created by sighted people for sighted people! Do you even begin to realize your own power and potential? You are succeeding to function successfully in a world that is not made for you? So dont easily give away your power... you guys are simply fantistic! Just begin to believe this and see the transformation that will happen around! I am not asking you to become big headed, but at least give yourselves the credit for what you all are doing! Don't worry about abut how others think of blind people. We are what we are without sight... let them try doing half the things we do even with sight! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:56 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Priti jee you have not understood what I said. society leaves blind or other disadvantaged with very less choice. I too have married a sighted girl and a few blind friends of mine have married sighted boys and girls. but it does not make the world rosy. Self perception matters, but it should be realistic. Then only can you bring about a few positive changes in yourself and in the world around. Saying that all is well, is the greatest euphimism. Blindness is a really major challenge to be lived with and the spouse must understand it well. So, blindness does not matter argument is fallacious. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear preety madam, I can understand through your real example that marriage between disable and non disable is not always disastrous But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative. If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should accept blind person? Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality. Blindness is big problem. Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing. Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people will know me by my blindness more then my real name. If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has done really great job. If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik se nahi kar paai. Blindness will always come first in our over all personality. People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind life partner. Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only. On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating towards ourselves as beggers! Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we going to convince the world
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I completely agree with Preetiji and amar. Dear Ishita, a lot of perception of others towards us is based on the perception that we carry about ourselves. I ask a question to all, what is the guarantee that a marriage between physically abled individuals do not fail or there are no compromises? Similarly there are no divorces of blind couple? Marriage is a little about luck also I feel. Ofcourse our Indian mentality is not too open to readily except the fact that a blind person can get a abled bodied life person and that too with out any terms and conditions. But its we youngsters only who have to change our own outlook and then outlook of others. Ishita believe me when I was a college going girl, I also had the same inhibitions as you have but with time and situation I had to become strong and then things sloly started falling in place. With regards to your point of touching some bodies clothes in office? I thing there is a misunderstanding some where, I had just given an example of how in some cases, where ever it is possible especially in the same gender you can ask the person to describe the color or design of the dres. And it is not always necessary to touch and see also. Are all the interactions in the work place only between boss and subordinate?? Or related to false praising for promotion only? Don't people have friends or peers in office?. Even sighted persons will not often go and complement a Chairmen of the company if he is wearing a good shirt. Its all about the rapport one builts with each others in the work place. Where is the link of promotion with the point of complementing others on their dress or some thing. You would only complement some one if you have some kind of comfort level with them right? My dear please try to come out of your negative shell and look at the world beyond with some openness. Trust me marriage it self is not a very big deal or a rocket science for which one a very dignified and a respected person is compelled to use the example of a begger. Thanks and warm Regards, Nikita V. Raut, Senior Manager [HR] Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda, C- 26, G - block, Bandra Kurla Complex, Bandra [E], Mumbai- 400051. deskphone: +91-22-66985557. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:47 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners If you are blind or not, should not matter at all!! Madam there is a gulf of difference between what is and what ought to be... And why not? I am blind. It should matter for my spouse very much. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:37 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, Why so pessimistic my dear? I am not trying to motivate you or anyone else. I am just stating facts. First of all where did you get the idea that anyone should marry us blind women for charity purpose! Not at all! But I am not blaming you for thinking like that. These are normal thoughts we Indians are conditioned to believe. You may not want to marry a person without hands or legs, that is perfectly up to you. It is OK if you feel like that. The point we are trying to make here is, that it need not be blindness that determines the criterion for marriage, it is the person in totality that matters. Your skills, personality, talents, values and what you have to offer by way of warmth, love, commitment and friendship that should matter. If you are blind or not, should not matter at all. Now, I have no sight at all, and I know that no one wants to marry blind women, not even blind men prefer to marry us! But, having said that, I wish to tell you that there are some very wonderful marr iages that have happened for blind women with sighted non disabled men. And when you look at these cases, it is very encouraging and motivating. Maybe, if more of us share our positive experiences, young intelligent women like you may look at this subject differently. Let us together discover what we need to do to become desirable and sought after life partners for good men, sighted or not. Where do you live? Can you come on the 3rd August for the Fusion meet? If so, do make it,. If not anything else, we will have an opportunity to meet and get to know each other. You come across to be a wonderful young woman, and I am sure you have countless excellent hidden talents and attributes that are not visible to you. Let us together learn to discover ourselves; thereafter develop our hidden potentials and give away
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Dear Ishita, one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people a choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do is, keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want to come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I too face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also something that is conditioned to keep our esteem down so that we dont begin to compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest problem is 'what others are saying or thinking about me'? If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to never live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at home at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So come on, every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that mean that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will only live once the world begins to think differently about us? It will never happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will change for each one of us. Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear preety madam, I can understand through your real example that marriage between disable and non disable is not always disastrous But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative. If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should accept blind person? Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality. Blindness is big problem. Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing. Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people will know me by my blindness more then my real name. If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has done really great job. If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik se nahi kar paai. Blindness will always come first in our over all personality. People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind life partner. Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only. On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating towards ourselves as beggers! Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we going to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very beginning. Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to do this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us differently? The world perceives you in the same way that you look at yourself! Please remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we are choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way we get treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what you will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by conditioning. Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best and we have equal right and equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the best of your abilities, and your rights will come running after you! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director
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I don't understand why the metaphorical use of a phrase cannot be understood by learned members here. I used the phrase beggars are not choosers to mean that as blind individuals, we are left with very little choice. be it marriage or other matters. I hope I am clear and we can argue about degree of choice available, instead of literally considering ourselves beggars or not. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Nikita Vaid Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:37 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I completely agree with Preetiji and amar. Dear Ishita, a lot of perception of others towards us is based on the perception that we carry about ourselves. I ask a question to all, what is the guarantee that a marriage between physically abled individuals do not fail or there are no compromises? Similarly there are no divorces of blind couple? Marriage is a little about luck also I feel. Ofcourse our Indian mentality is not too open to readily except the fact that a blind person can get a abled bodied life person and that too with out any terms and conditions. But its we youngsters only who have to change our own outlook and then outlook of others. Ishita believe me when I was a college going girl, I also had the same inhibitions as you have but with time and situation I had to become strong and then things sloly started falling in place. With regards to your point of touching some bodies clothes in office? I thing there is a misunderstanding some where, I had just given an example of how in some cases, where ever it is possible especially in the same gender you can ask the person to describe the color or design of the dres. And it is not always necessary to touch and see also. Are all the interactions in the work place only between boss and subordinate?? Or related to false praising for promotion only? Don't people have friends or peers in office?. Even sighted persons will not often go and complement a Chairmen of the company if he is wearing a good shirt. Its all about the rapport one builts with each others in the work place. Where is the link of promotion with the point of complementing others on their dress or some thing. You would only complement some one if you have some kind of comfort level with them right? My dear please try to come out of your negative shell and look at the world beyond with some openness. Trust me marriage it self is not a very big deal or a rocket science for which one a very dignified and a respected person is compelled to use the example of a begger. Thanks and warm Regards, Nikita V. Raut, Senior Manager [HR] Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda, C- 26, G - block, Bandra Kurla Complex, Bandra [E], Mumbai- 400051. deskphone: +91-22-66985557. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:47 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners If you are blind or not, should not matter at all!! Madam there is a gulf of difference between what is and what ought to be... And why not? I am blind. It should matter for my spouse very much. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:37 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, Why so pessimistic my dear? I am not trying to motivate you or anyone else. I am just stating facts. First of all where did you get the idea that anyone should marry us blind women for charity purpose! Not at all! But I am not blaming you for thinking like that. These are normal thoughts we Indians are conditioned to believe. You may not want to marry a person without hands or legs, that is perfectly up to you. It is OK if you feel like that. The point we are trying to make here is, that it need not be blindness that determines the criterion for marriage, it is the person in totality that matters. Your skills, personality, talents, values and what you have to offer by way of warmth, love, commitment and friendship that should matter. If you are blind or not, should not matter at all. Now, I have no sight at all, and I know that no one wants to marry blind women, not even blind men prefer to marry us! But, having said that, I wish to tell you that there are some very wonderful marr iages that have happened for blind women with sighted non disabled men. And when you look at these cases, it is very
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Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken. However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the whole thing defeats the very purpose. Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what may... If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it.. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people a choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do is, keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want to come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I too face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also something that is conditioned to keep our esteem down so that we dont begin to compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest problem is 'what others are saying or thinking about me'? If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to never live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at home at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So come on, every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that mean that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will only live once the world begins to think differently about us? It will never happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will change for each one of us. Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear preety madam, I can understand through your real example that marriage between disable and non disable is not always disastrous But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative. If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should accept blind person? Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality. Blindness is big problem. Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing. Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people will know me by my blindness more then my real name. If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has done really great job. If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik se nahi kar paai. Blindness will always come first in our over all personality. People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind life partner. Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only. On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating towards ourselves as beggers! Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we going to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very beginning. Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to do this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us differently
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To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing. only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone wish to live willingly with the person with disability. I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners. Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some problem it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married blind person. On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken. However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the whole thing defeats the very purpose. Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what may... If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it.. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people a choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do is, keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want to come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I too face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also something that is conditioned to keep our esteem down so that we dont begin to compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest problem is 'what others are saying or thinking about me'? If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to never live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at home at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So come on, every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that mean that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will only live once the world begins to think differently about us? It will never happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will change for each one of us. Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear preety madam, I can understand through your real example that marriage between disable and non disable is not always disastrous But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative. If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should accept blind person? Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality. Blindness is big problem. Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing. Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people will know me by my blindness more then my real name. If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has done really great job. If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik se nahi kar paai. Blindness will always come first in our over all personality. People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind life partner. Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only. On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating towards ourselves as beggers! Life is our choice, you are whatever
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dear bhavani sir. those blind girls who have good jobs can get poor or socially backward sighted boy easily. On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing. only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone wish to live willingly with the person with disability. I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners. Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some problem it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married blind person. On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken. However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the whole thing defeats the very purpose. Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what may... If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it.. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people a choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do is, keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want to come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I too face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also something that is conditioned to keep our esteem down so that we dont begin to compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest problem is 'what others are saying or thinking about me'? If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to never live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at home at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So come on, every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that mean that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will only live once the world begins to think differently about us? It will never happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will change for each one of us. Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear preety madam, I can understand through your real example that marriage between disable and non disable is not always disastrous But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative. If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should accept blind person? Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality. Blindness is big problem. Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing. Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people will know me by my blindness more then my real name. If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has done really great job. If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik se nahi kar paai. Blindness will always come first in our over all personality. People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind life partner. Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only. On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Hey, who are these beggers
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The discussion is interesting but academic an hypothetical. Success and failure or for that matter possibility and impossibility varies from person to person and situation to situation. I am afraid this is a non conclusive debate and we can carry on talking our points till the cows come home. Blindness can be a defining factor if we allow it to be so. If we are willing to compensate with factors like extra effort, good communications,positive attitude, sense humour, tact, personal charm, patience, love and capacity to contribute and share then blindness need not be a factor. All this is a matter of personal perceptions and perspective. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Nikita Vaid Sent: 02 July 2014 15:37 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I completely agree with Preetiji and amar. Dear Ishita, a lot of perception of others towards us is based on the perception that we carry about ourselves. I ask a question to all, what is the guarantee that a marriage between physically abled individuals do not fail or there are no compromises? Similarly there are no divorces of blind couple? Marriage is a little about luck also I feel. Ofcourse our Indian mentality is not too open to readily except the fact that a blind person can get a abled bodied life person and that too with out any terms and conditions. But its we youngsters only who have to change our own outlook and then outlook of others. Ishita believe me when I was a college going girl, I also had the same inhibitions as you have but with time and situation I had to become strong and then things sloly started falling in place. With regards to your point of touching some bodies clothes in office? I thing there is a misunderstanding some where, I had just given an example of how in some cases, where ever it is possible especially in the same gender you can ask the person to describe the color or design of the dres. And it is not always necessary to touch and see also. Are all the interactions in the work place only between boss and subordinate?? Or related to false praising for promotion only? Don't people have friends or peers in office?. Even sighted persons will not often go and complement a Chairmen of the company if he is wearing a good shirt. Its all about the rapport one builts with each others in the work place. Where is the link of promotion with the point of complementing others on their dress or some thing. You would only complement some one if you have some kind of comfort level with them right? My dear please try to come out of your negative shell and look at the world beyond with some openness. Trust me marriage it self is not a very big deal or a rocket science for which one a very dignified and a respected person is compelled to use the example of a begger. Thanks and warm Regards, Nikita V. Raut, Senior Manager [HR] Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda, C- 26, G - block, Bandra Kurla Complex, Bandra [E], Mumbai- 400051. deskphone: +91-22-66985557. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:47 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners If you are blind or not, should not matter at all!! Madam there is a gulf of difference between what is and what ought to be... And why not? I am blind. It should matter for my spouse very much. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:37 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, Why so pessimistic my dear? I am not trying to motivate you or anyone else. I am just stating facts. First of all where did you get the idea that anyone should marry us blind women for charity purpose! Not at all! But I am not blaming you for thinking like that. These are normal thoughts we Indians are conditioned to believe. You may not want to marry a person without hands or legs, that is perfectly up to you. It is OK if you feel like that. The point we are trying to make here is, that it need not be blindness that determines the criterion for marriage, it is the person in totality that matters. Your skills, personality, talents, values and what you have to offer by way of warmth, love, commitment and friendship that should matter. If you are blind or not, should not matter at all. Now, I have no sight at all, and I know that no one wants to marry blind women, not even blind men prefer
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I think we all beg to be loved, caressed and respected... Aren't we?... And If I simply put it, in India the weight attached and feelings associated with girlfriend/boyfriend, marriage, love, wife, husband and dchildren can make anybody beggar at times. Sociology of human heart is very tricky to understand,you know. Where is that guy who started this thread? Could you please wind up with your final comment, please? On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: dear bhavani sir. those blind girls who have good jobs can get poor or socially backward sighted boy easily. On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing. only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone wish to live willingly with the person with disability. I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners. Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some problem it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married blind person. On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken. However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the whole thing defeats the very purpose. Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what may... If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it.. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people a choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do is, keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want to come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I too face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also something that is conditioned to keep our esteem down so that we dont begin to compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest problem is 'what others are saying or thinking about me'? If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to never live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at home at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So come on, every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that mean that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will only live once the world begins to think differently about us? It will never happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will change for each one of us. Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear preety madam, I can understand through your real example that marriage between disable and non disable is not always disastrous But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative. If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should accept blind person? Madam, this isn't question of Indian or American mentality. Blindness is big problem. Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing. Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people will know me by my blindness more then my real name. If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has done really great
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this is problem with scholars. they know everything and they can say everything On 7/2/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote: I think we all beg to be loved, caressed and respected... Aren't we?... And If I simply put it, in India the weight attached and feelings associated with girlfriend/boyfriend, marriage, love, wife, husband and dchildren can make anybody beggar at times. Sociology of human heart is very tricky to understand,you know. Where is that guy who started this thread? Could you please wind up with your final comment, please? On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: dear bhavani sir. those blind girls who have good jobs can get poor or socially backward sighted boy easily. On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing. only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone wish to live willingly with the person with disability. I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners. Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some problem it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married blind person. On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken. However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the whole thing defeats the very purpose. Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what may... If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it.. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people a choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do is, keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want to come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I too face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also something that is conditioned to keep our esteem down so that we dont begin to compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest problem is 'what others are saying or thinking about me'? If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to never live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at home at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So come on, every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that mean that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will only live once the world begins to think differently about us? It will never happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will change for each one of us. Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear preety madam, I can understand through your real example that marriage between disable and non disable is not always disastrous But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative. If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should accept blind person? Madam, this isn't question of Indian or American mentality. Blindness is big problem. Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing. Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss
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I guess so George. We have all shared a lot... I do hope some of us have learnt a lot from all this! I sure have... have understood a little bit more of the issues the blind community are jostling with. It is tough I know... but life is tough for everyone... in a different way fofous... but when life gets tougher, the tough get tougher! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:56 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Time to call off the marathon eh Avinash? -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 02 July 2014 16:36 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I think we all beg to be loved, caressed and respected... Aren't we?... And If I simply put it, in India the weight attached and feelings associated with girlfriend/boyfriend, marriage, love, wife, husband and dchildren can make anybody beggar at times. Sociology of human heart is very tricky to understand,you know. Where is that guy who started this thread? Could you please wind up with your final comment, please? On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: dear bhavani sir. those blind girls who have good jobs can get poor or socially backward sighted boy easily. On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing. only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone wish to live willingly with the person with disability. I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners. Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some problem it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married blind person. On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken. However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the whole thing defeats the very purpose. Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what may... If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it.. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people a choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do is, keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want to come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I too face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also something that is conditioned to keep our esteem down so that we dont begin to compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest problem is 'what others are saying or thinking about me'? If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to never live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at home at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So come on, every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that mean that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will only live once the world begins to think differently about us? It will never happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things
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Your case may be exceptional, please don't compare whole society through your view point. Indian society is not ready to accept visually challenged people at least for next 50 or 70 years. For example, long time back when I worked as a web programmer in a company at Eranakulam district at Kerala state, I accidentally heard a conversation between my colleagues about blind society. On that day, i understood how does the sighted people putting distance to visually challenged community. Throughout my life, I found women are more aggressive than men in such matters. In Kerala, more blind men are married to blind women. Some blind men are married to sighted women. However, most often blind women marry only blind men. It is very unusual for a blind woman to marry a sighted man. This is due to the privileged position enjoyed by male members in families and society. The prevalence of the practice of dowry is also attributable to it. At present, unless blind men marry blind women, the latter have almost no chance of a wedlock. Almost everywhere in the world; people with any kind of disability are looked down upon as second class citizens. They are less privileged. Social barriers are much more responsible for the backward nature in the life of people with visual disabilities. Many sighted people in regressive societies feel that blind people are abnormal. This is a serious misconception that hamper the progress of visually challenged society in several ways in India including marriage life. Do you know, in indian society, what visually impaired people cannot do gets more attention than what they can do. Such an attitude on the part of society deprives blind people of their basic human rights. Their lot is cast in a world of darkness. They drag out their sterile existence in silent agony. I am blind too! Yes it does matter to my spouse... he takes great care to keep things where they belong, he takes care not to leave me alone on the street and I in return make sure he eats his fruits everyday! So where is the problem? Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:47 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners If you are blind or not, should not matter at all!! Madam there is a gulf of difference between what is and what ought to be... And why not? I am blind. It should matter for my spouse very much. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:37 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, Why so pessimistic my dear? I am not trying to motivate you or anyone else. I am just stating facts. First of all where did you get the idea that anyone should marry us blind women for charity purpose! Not at all! But I am not blaming you for thinking like that. These are normal thoughts we Indians are conditioned to believe. You may not want to marry a person without hands or legs, that is perfectly up to you. It is OK if you feel like that. The point we are trying to make here is, that it need not be blindness that determines the criterion for marriage, it is the person in totality that matters. Your skills, personality, talents, values and what you have to offer by way of warmth, love, commitment and friendship that should matter. If you are blind or not, should not matter at all. Now, I have no sight at all, and I know that no one wants to marry blind women, not even blind men prefer to marry us! But, having said that, I wish to tell you that there are some very wonderful marriages that have happened for blind women with sighted non disabled men. And when you look at these cases, it is very encouraging and motivating. Maybe, if more of us share our positive experiences, young intelligent women like you may look at this subject differently. Let us together discover what we need to do to become desirable and sought after
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This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything on this could attract all types of comments, still I am putting down my views. Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more about what should be the ideal scenario. The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not willing to marry any visually impaired at all. If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control. Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors. I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them. What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled partner then it may help solve few practical problems but then a visually impaired partner also takes care of many other matters. When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration. I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the marriageable age are not ready to accept visually impaird partners. Finally they have to make comprimises. Girls sighted or disabled are generally seen to be more open minded and accommodating. It will indeed be great if visually impaired socialize more in the non-disabled community. It will enhance their personality and at the same time will increase chances of finding partners. I am partially sighted and married to a totally blind woman. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: 02 July 2014 14:10 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic. Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid. I have 40 percent vision. And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in dream unless he has social or economical problems. In that case a guy will marry me if he won't get proper match rather any girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity. Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity. And I don't have any bitter feeling for this belief. Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all aspects I can't marry with the guy who doesn't have both arms and both legs. The same way I shouldn't expect such charity from any able bodied man. And yes I won't get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu to tariff kar saku. I don't have much experience but still I would like to advice all youngsters that please don't do this. Don't ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun ya chahti hun. On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: You are very right! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Zoher Kheriwala Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of sighted person not because of he or she is sighted but many reasons other vice. Or if we are rejected by sighted person, it might not be related to our blindness
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Dear Ashita why people give us jobs, if they can get sighted people? are you working? and there are enough sighted people jobless, or not? At 10:19 AM 7/2/2014, you wrote: Dear preety madam, I can understand through your real example that marriage between disable and non disable is not always disastrous But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative. If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should accept blind person? Madam, this isnât question of Indian or American mentality. Blindness is big problem. Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing. Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people will know me by my blindness more then my real name. If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has done really great job. If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik se nahi kar paai. Blindness will always come first in our over all personality. People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind life partner. Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only. On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating towards ourselves as beggers! Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we going to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very beginning. Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to do this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us differently? The world perceives you in the same way that you look at yourself! Please remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we are choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way we get treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what you will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by conditioning. Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best and we have equal right and equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the best of your abilities, and your rights will come running after you! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivatioon; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Well said Ishita. Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without compromise are rare.. Please remember beggars are not choosers -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic. Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid. I have 40 percent vision. And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in dream unless he has social or economical problems. In that case a guy will marry me if he wonât get proper match rather any girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity. Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity. And I donât have any bitter feeling for this belief. Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all aspects I canât marry with the guy who
Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
agreed sir, if their would be no reservation in jobs for the disabled persons, i don't think that specially blind persons would get job in government sector. i should not write more on this matter because this will not fullfill the purpose of this topic. - Original Message - From: mahendra gal...@chello.at To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ashita why people give us jobs, if they can get sighted people? are you working? and there are enough sighted people jobless, or not? At 10:19 AM 7/2/2014, you wrote: Dear preety madam, I can understand through your real example that marriage between disable and non disable is not always disastrous But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative. If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should accept blind person? Madam, this isnâ?Tt question of Indian or American mentality. Blindness is big problem. Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing. Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people will know me by my blindness more then my real name. If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has done really great job. If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik se nahi kar paai. Blindness will always come first in our over all personality. People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind life partner. Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only. On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating towards ourselves as beggers! Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we going to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very beginning. Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to do this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us differently? The world perceives you in the same way that you look at yourself! Please remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we are choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way we get treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what you will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by conditioning. Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best and we have equal right and equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the best of your abilities, and your rights will come running after you! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivatioon; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Well said Ishita. Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without compromise are rare.. Please remember beggars are not choosers -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic. Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid. I have 40 percent vision. And if I lose it no sighted person will even think
Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Competency and contribution are also playing a big role in all this! Of course Government jobs have reservations for us, but let us congratulate ourselves... we are working and performing! Hope you agree? Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of mahendra Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:07 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ashita why people give us jobs, if they can get sighted people? are you working? and there are enough sighted people jobless, or not? At 10:19 AM 7/2/2014, you wrote: Dear preety madam, I can understand through your real example that marriage between disable and non disable is not always disastrous But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative. If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should accept blind person? Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality. Blindness is big problem. Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing. Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people will know me by my blindness more then my real name. If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has done really great job. If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik se nahi kar paai. Blindness will always come first in our over all personality. People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind life partner. Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in majburi only. On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all doing wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even indicating towards ourselves as beggers! Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we going to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very beginning. Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able to do this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us differently? The world perceives you in the same way that you look at yourself! Please remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we are choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way we get treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what you will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by conditioning. Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best and we have equal right and equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the best of your abilities, and your rights will come running after you! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivatioon; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting “ Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Well said Ishita. Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without
Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Dear Prashant, Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up! Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there. Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the socializing factor going! It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not because of their disabiity. Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Prashant Verma Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM To: accessindia@accessindia. in Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything on this could attract all types of comments, still I am putting down my views. Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more about what should be the ideal scenario. The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not willing to marry any visually impaired at all. If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control. Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors. I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them. What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled partner then it may help solve few practical problems but then a visually impaired partner also takes care of many other matters. When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration. I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the marriageable age are not ready to accept visually impaird partners. Finally they have to make comprimises. Girls sighted or disabled are generally seen to be more open minded and accommodating. It will indeed be great if visually impaired socialize more in the non-disabled community. It will enhance their personality and at the same time will increase chances of finding partners. I am partially sighted and married to a totally blind woman. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: 02 July 2014 14:10 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic. Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid. I have 40 percent vision. And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in dream unless he has social or economical problems. In that case a guy will marry me if he won't get proper match rather any girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity. Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity. And I don't have any bitter feeling for this belief. Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all aspects I can't marry with the guy who doesn't have both arms and both legs. The same way I shouldn't expect such charity from any able bodied man. And yes I won't get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu to tariff kar saku. I don't have much experience but still I would like to advice all youngsters that please don't do this. Don't ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun ya chahti hun. On 7/2/14
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My father works with reliance industry since 30 years. He has never seen any blind person working in that company. And I have observed that blind persons are working with government institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000 So please don’t tell that we are getting jobs just because ability. We are getting job because reservation. I don’t want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But society is not ready to accept us as a working people. i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me. can i consider them fool? On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Dear Prashant, Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up! Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there. Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the socializing factor going! It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not because of their disabiity. Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Prashant Verma Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM To: accessindia@accessindia. in Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything on this could attract all types of comments, still I am putting down my views. Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more about what should be the ideal scenario. The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not willing to marry any visually impaired at all. If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control. Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors. I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them. What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled partner then it may help solve few practical problems but then a visually impaired partner also takes care of many other matters. When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration. I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the marriageable age are not ready to accept visually impaird partners. Finally they have to make comprimises. Girls sighted or disabled are generally seen to be more open minded and accommodating. It will indeed be great if visually impaired socialize more in the non-disabled community. It will enhance their personality and at the same time will increase chances of finding partners. I am partially sighted and married to a totally blind woman. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: 02 July 2014 14:10 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic. Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are valid. I have 40 percent vision. And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in dream unless he has social or economical problems. In that case a guy will marry me if he won't get proper match rather any girl in able bodied world, Or if I can offer him lots
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Yes, private sector hardly accepts blind employees. reservation has a very useful purpose in government sector. In marriage, though I am lucky to get a post graduate wife without a major compromise, but I endorse the fact that many blind persons do a lot of compromise for getting a sighted partner. They are not fools. The hard realities of life go beyond any inspirational lectures. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:52 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners My father works with reliance industry since 30 years. He has never seen any blind person working in that company. And I have observed that blind persons are working with government institutes such as banks schools etc, or with NGO And few vis are working in corporate sector and earns less then 6000 So please don’t tell that we are getting jobs just because ability. We are getting job because reservation. I don’t want to say that we are not capable to perform jobs. But society is not ready to accept us as a working people. i have seen highly educated blind boys mareing 7th or 8th pass sighted girls sirf sighted life partner ki chah me. can i consider them fool? On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Dear Prashant, Lovely to see you share your views! How true! Thank you for popping up! Please will you consider being with us on 3rd August for the special Fusion meet at IIC? I wish to have you and Veena share some practicle facts there. Trying to get loads of non disabled people there too, to get the socializing factor going! It is wonderful to say that girls are more open and accomodating, but there are some wonderful visually impaired men as well who have done what you have! And I know they are mostly happy because of their atitudes and not because of their disabiity. Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Prashant Verma Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:22 PM To: accessindia@accessindia. in Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners This discussion has made interesting reading. Knowing that writing anything on this could attract all types of comments, still I am putting down my views. Few people are stating the current situation while few are talking more about what should be the ideal scenario. The only complaint I have with many visually impaired is that they are not willing to marry any visually impaired at all. If they consider themselves useful and productive then they should be ready to accept a visually impaired partner. My understanding is that those who have not been able to master their disability due to various factors desire sighted partners. Some of these factors may be beyond their control. Economic status, upbringing, social pressure etc. are few of the factors. I think the possibility of having visually impaired children is one of the root cause of this desire. It is however not openly accepted. Parents also want someone sighted who can look after their son/daughter after them. What matters is compatibility and understanding. If we get a non-disabled partner then it may help solve few practical problems but then a visually impaired partner also takes care of many other matters. When looking for partners, one should have an open mind. Disability like caste, religion etc should be a secondary consideration. I see so many young talented and well settled visually impaired girls all around here but visually impaired boys even though they are passing the marriageable age are not ready to accept visually impaird partners. Finally they have to make comprimises. Girls sighted or disabled are generally seen to be more open minded and accommodating. It will indeed be great if visually impaired socialize more in the non-disabled community. It will enhance their personality and at the same time will increase chances of finding partners. I am partially sighted and married to a totally blind woman. -Original Message
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Never make friends with people who are above or below you in status. Such friendships will never give you any happiness. - Chanakya There is some self-interest behind every friendship. There is no friendship without self-interests. This is a bitter truth. - Chanakya both quotations should also be applied regarding partnership. marriage is a social partnership between to parties where they have joined each other to satisfy their physical and emotional desires. - Original Message - From: aditi shah shahaditi1...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 6:24 PM Subject: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Hi there everyone, Have been reading this discussion since a few days, so felt like expressing my views as well. We are all humans blind or not, and we have our own set of skills. There might be areas we are extremely good at or there might be areas we cannot do much, in case of us blind it may be because of our disability whereas incase of sighted it might be due to other reasons. According to me, a happy married life demands a set of some basic skills, like understanding, cooking, up bringing of kids, earning, socializing, etc. Again, these basic requirements differ depending on what kind of a lifestyle one has. So, in my view, it does not really matter whether we are marrying a sighted or a blind, what matters is whether our's and our partner's skills can meet those basic requirements or not. Considering this, I disagree from the belief that if a blind has to marry a sighted, he has to make compromises like marrying someone economically or intellectually weaker than us. If a blind who is earning well or is from a well-to-do family or may be is extremely qualified marries a sighted from a weaker economic background or qualification, it is not a compromise as far as both partners together possess the required skills. Even if a blind is marrying a blind, and both of them can manage to do the required things, may be in ways different than the normal world, they can indeed have a successful married life. So, it is not about being blind or sighted, it is always about finding that someone such that with understanding, you can both match up for each other's shortcomings. Life partners are like two pieces of a puzzle, one has to find the other half that fits perfectly, lest we got to spend our entire life filling the gaps. Regards, aditi Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
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Hey Bhawani bhai, nice quotes! The key point is that there has to be some self-interest for both the parties otherwise the friendship will end. A person with financial poverty and emotional richness can provide emotional support to the emotionally poor but financially rich one and thus can be equal in status. Can we apply it on a blind marrying a sighted? Disagree with it, but I won't - especially after seeing so many examples on Access India. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 02 July 2014 07:13 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Never make friends with people who are above or below you in status. Such friendships will never give you any happiness. - Chanakya There is some self-interest behind every friendship. There is no friendship without self-interests. This is a bitter truth. - Chanakya both quotations should also be applied regarding partnership. marriage is a social partnership between to parties where they have joined each other to satisfy their physical and emotional desires. - Original Message - From: aditi shah shahaditi1...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 6:24 PM Subject: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Hi there everyone, Have been reading this discussion since a few days, so felt like expressing my views as well. We are all humans blind or not, and we have our own set of skills. There might be areas we are extremely good at or there might be areas we cannot do much, in case of us blind it may be because of our disability whereas incase of sighted it might be due to other reasons. According to me, a happy married life demands a set of some basic skills, like understanding, cooking, up bringing of kids, earning, socializing, etc. Again, these basic requirements differ depending on what kind of a lifestyle one has. So, in my view, it does not really matter whether we are marrying a sighted or a blind, what matters is whether our's and our partner's skills can meet those basic requirements or not. Considering this, I disagree from the belief that if a blind has to marry a sighted, he has to make compromises like marrying someone economically or intellectually weaker than us. If a blind who is earning well or is from a well-to-do family or may be is extremely qualified marries a sighted from a weaker economic background or qualification, it is not a compromise as far as both partners together possess the required skills. Even if a blind is marrying a blind, and both of them can manage to do the required things, may be in ways different than the normal world, they can indeed have a successful married life. So, it is not about being blind or sighted, it is always about finding that someone such that with understanding, you can both match up for each other's shortcomings. Life partners are like two pieces of a puzzle, one has to find the other half that fits perfectly, lest we got to spend our entire life filling the gaps. Regards, aditi Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_acc essindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org .in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing
