Re: [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config?
Hi, In Release 2.4 currently in Open Betahttp://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-Beta/New-ePMP-Beta-Release-2-4-now-available/m-p/38345#U38345), the LEDs on the AP will indicate RSSI strength. There is also a new tool called eAlign (under Tools-eAlign) that provides a graphical representation of RSSI helping with alignment. Thanks, Sriram From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config? Possible to make the ap show rssi on signal leds when in a p2p configuration?
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config?
Great. Sorry, I should’ve posted about the Open beta on here, earlier. My mistake. A few things about eAlign: 1. Its available on the Master and Slave when the radios are in PTP mode 2. Its available on the SM in PMP mode, not on the AP 3. It will work when there is link. In other words, the alignment tool will not be useful when the SM is simply scanning for APs. Thanks, Sriram From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:45 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config? Excellent! I need to see this... downloading the beta now. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Long as it's done before a full release all is well :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 9:20 AM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.commailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Yes. And I will warn you right now that it acts a little quirky (the format) on mobile devices. It will work just fine on a regular PC/Netbook. We’ll fix that so I ask for your patience. ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:15 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config? Oh my god. That's amazing. An alignment page?!?!?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 9:09 AM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.commailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Hi, In Release 2.4 currently in Open Betahttp://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-Beta/New-ePMP-Beta-Release-2-4-now-available/m-p/38345#U38345), the LEDs on the AP will indicate RSSI strength. There is also a new tool called eAlign (under Tools-eAlign) that provides a graphical representation of RSSI helping with alignment. Thanks, Sriram From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:23 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config? Possible to make the ap show rssi on signal leds when in a p2p configuration?
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config?
Excellent! I need to see this... downloading the beta now. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Long as it's done before a full release all is well :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 9:20 AM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Yes. And I will warn you right now that it acts a little quirky (the format) on mobile devices. It will work just fine on a regular PC/Netbook. We’ll fix that so I ask for your patience. J *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 8:15 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config? Oh my god. That's amazing. An alignment page?!?!?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 9:09 AM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Hi, In Release 2.4 currently in Open Beta http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-Beta/New-ePMP-Beta-Release-2-4-now-available/m-p/38345#U38345), the LEDs on the AP will indicate RSSI strength. There is also a new tool called eAlign (under Tools-eAlign) that provides a graphical representation of RSSI helping with alignment. Thanks, Sriram *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout *Sent:* Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config? Possible to make the ap show rssi on signal leds when in a p2p configuration?
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config?
Well that does make sense, it is an *alignment* tool. Hard to align when you're not associated/looking for a specific signal. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 9:56 AM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Great. Sorry, I should’ve posted about the Open beta on here, earlier. My mistake. A few things about eAlign: 1. Its available on the Master and Slave when the radios are in PTP mode 2. Its available on the SM in PMP mode, not on the AP 3. It will work when there is link. In other words, the alignment tool will not be useful when the SM is simply scanning for APs. Thanks, Sriram *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 8:45 AM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config? Excellent! I need to see this... downloading the beta now. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Long as it's done before a full release all is well :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 9:20 AM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Yes. And I will warn you right now that it acts a little quirky (the format) on mobile devices. It will work just fine on a regular PC/Netbook. We’ll fix that so I ask for your patience. J *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 8:15 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config? Oh my god. That's amazing. An alignment page?!?!?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 9:09 AM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Hi, In Release 2.4 currently in Open Beta http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-Beta/New-ePMP-Beta-Release-2-4-now-available/m-p/38345#U38345), the LEDs on the AP will indicate RSSI strength. There is also a new tool called eAlign (under Tools-eAlign) that provides a graphical representation of RSSI helping with alignment. Thanks, Sriram *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout *Sent:* Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config? Possible to make the ap show rssi on signal leds when in a p2p configuration?
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config?
Oh my god. That's amazing. An alignment page?!?!?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 9:09 AM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Hi, In Release 2.4 currently in Open Beta http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-Beta/New-ePMP-Beta-Release-2-4-now-available/m-p/38345#U38345), the LEDs on the AP will indicate RSSI strength. There is also a new tool called eAlign (under Tools-eAlign) that provides a graphical representation of RSSI helping with alignment. Thanks, Sriram *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout *Sent:* Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config? Possible to make the ap show rssi on signal leds when in a p2p configuration?
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config?
Yes. And I will warn you right now that it acts a little quirky (the format) on mobile devices. It will work just fine on a regular PC/Netbook. We’ll fix that so I ask for your patience. ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config? Oh my god. That's amazing. An alignment page?!?!?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 9:09 AM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.commailto:sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Hi, In Release 2.4 currently in Open Betahttp://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-Beta/New-ePMP-Beta-Release-2-4-now-available/m-p/38345#U38345), the LEDs on the AP will indicate RSSI strength. There is also a new tool called eAlign (under Tools-eAlign) that provides a graphical representation of RSSI helping with alignment. Thanks, Sriram From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:23 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config? Possible to make the ap show rssi on signal leds when in a p2p configuration?
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config?
Long as it's done before a full release all is well :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 9:20 AM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Yes. And I will warn you right now that it acts a little quirky (the format) on mobile devices. It will work just fine on a regular PC/Netbook. We’ll fix that so I ask for your patience. J *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 8:15 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config? Oh my god. That's amazing. An alignment page?!?!?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 9:09 AM, Sriram Chaturvedi sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote: Hi, In Release 2.4 currently in Open Beta http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-Beta/New-ePMP-Beta-Release-2-4-now-available/m-p/38345#U38345), the LEDs on the AP will indicate RSSI strength. There is also a new tool called eAlign (under Tools-eAlign) that provides a graphical representation of RSSI helping with alignment. Thanks, Sriram *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout *Sent:* Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Epmp leds for alignment in ptp config? Possible to make the ap show rssi on signal leds when in a p2p configuration?
Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to AirFiber 24
I put in the highest current transformers I could find when I designed the
GigE-APC-POE.
From: Erich Kaiser
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to
AirFiber 24
I am going to try a tycon power DC POE tomorrow, see if that will work, just
need to get it working at this point... Next step would be to run a new Cat5.
Current Cat5 is Apex9.
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Another (totally hypothetical) thought would be perhaps one of the pairs has
a slight DC unbalance causing the DC current not to split equally, thus causing
some DC flux in one of the transformers and degrading the pulse characteristics
of the transformer. Which could happen if the UBNT injector has transformers
with higher saturation specs than the Packetflux injector.
From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to
AirFiber 24
Is it an AF24 or 5? The 24 uses 50 watts. The power control relays on the
regular and GigE injectors will only handle 1A @ 48VDC. If it's a 24, you're
likely over that. The relay contacts are probably fused.
The AF specific single-port injector uses a solid-state relay like a
SyncInjector and can handle 2A, or more, I forget what Forrest said.
That said, if the radio isn't getting enough power, it will be unpredictable.
I have seen this happen. Sounds like you've tried the PacketFlux single AF
injector and that does it too? Works fine with the UBNT brick? I have no idea.
On 2/12/2015 6:52 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
Guys this is not my first rodeo, This is the new Gigabit 8 Port Injector
and I have also tried the Packetflux Airfiber Injector, same issue, switch to
stock UBNT POE and it works fine. This is an all DC site, with separate DC to
DC converters and everything is fused.
See POE directions direct from Packetflux
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
It should not work with a regular POE injector. 50 watts is too much
current for 4 pins; you need to supply power on all 8 pins. And that, in turn,
requires transformers to isolate the data lines.
So I would not expect it to work at all with a vanilla POE. Well, maybe
it might work for a little while, and it would probably only do 100baseT. Then
the 4/5 7/8 pins will fry.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/12/2015 4:20 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
Anyone else seen any issues with the Airfiber Module or running the
Airfiber through the Gigabit POE Injector. I am seeing an issue with TX data,
RX works fine, getting full bandwidth. TX I get about 2Mbps. Hooked up to
Regular POE and everything is fine, any ideas?
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
[AFMUG] FS: Used Canopy SM's
For Sale Motorola Canopy 900SMC P10 900MHz Lot of 10 Subscriber Modules $250 http://www.ebay.com/itm/261752553846?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 Motorola Canopy 5200SM P7 5.2GHz Subscriber Module $40 http://www.ebay.com/itm/261741002672?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
[AFMUG] Planet FGSW 2630 pvm
Does this switch work with Ubiquiti radios for POE? Jaime Solorza
Re: [AFMUG] FS: Used Canopy SM's
forgot to add a few more links.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/261776680677?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 http://www.ebay.com/itm/261776681839?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 http://www.ebay.com/itm/261776683465?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:57 AM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: For Sale Motorola Canopy 900SMC P10 900MHz Lot of 10 Subscriber Modules $250 http://www.ebay.com/itm/261752553846?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 Motorola Canopy 5200SM P7 5.2GHz Subscriber Module $40 http://www.ebay.com/itm/261741002672?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync Injector question
Thanks I was bouncing around their website after I sent this. It appears it’s a standard Cad5 cable to chain them together. I plan to use the included cable as long as the units can be close enough together but its possible they may be in two different enclosures. Your saying that you can daisy chain two different speed units? Brandon Yuchasz From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync Injector question Sync daisy chain is all the same. Can you use the included cables? The wiring is on their website if need be. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 12:28 PM, bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Is there any reason I can’t daisy chain a Gigabit SyncInjector to one of the 10/100 SyncInjectors? We have a site climb scheduled for Monday and the SyncInjector is in the air on the platform of the structure in a box. I don’t know if it’s a Gig unit or not but I suspect it is just incase it’s a 10/100 though I want to be able to daisy chain to it. Also do I use a straight through, cross over, or standard patch cable to daisy chaining these units? Thanks, Brandon Yuchasz
Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to AirFiber 24
http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=77
1.25 amps per pair or 5 amps for all 8 wires if all on the same polarity. It
will do more but the transformer starts giving off some heat. I think it
unsoldered itself at around 2 amps when I was designing it.
From: TJ Trout
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 10:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to
AirFiber 24
What's the rating chuck?
On Feb 13, 2015 9:13 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I put in the highest current transformers I could find when I designed the
GigE-APC-POE.
From: Erich Kaiser
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to
AirFiber 24
I am going to try a tycon power DC POE tomorrow, see if that will work, just
need to get it working at this point... Next step would be to run a new Cat5.
Current Cat5 is Apex9.
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Another (totally hypothetical) thought would be perhaps one of the pairs
has a slight DC unbalance causing the DC current not to split equally, thus
causing some DC flux in one of the transformers and degrading the pulse
characteristics of the transformer. Which could happen if the UBNT injector
has transformers with higher saturation specs than the Packetflux injector.
From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to
AirFiber 24
Is it an AF24 or 5? The 24 uses 50 watts. The power control relays on the
regular and GigE injectors will only handle 1A @ 48VDC. If it's a 24, you're
likely over that. The relay contacts are probably fused.
The AF specific single-port injector uses a solid-state relay like a
SyncInjector and can handle 2A, or more, I forget what Forrest said.
That said, if the radio isn't getting enough power, it will be
unpredictable. I have seen this happen. Sounds like you've tried the PacketFlux
single AF injector and that does it too? Works fine with the UBNT brick? I have
no idea.
On 2/12/2015 6:52 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
Guys this is not my first rodeo, This is the new Gigabit 8 Port Injector
and I have also tried the Packetflux Airfiber Injector, same issue, switch to
stock UBNT POE and it works fine. This is an all DC site, with separate DC to
DC converters and everything is fused.
See POE directions direct from Packetflux
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
It should not work with a regular POE injector. 50 watts is too much
current for 4 pins; you need to supply power on all 8 pins. And that, in turn,
requires transformers to isolate the data lines.
So I would not expect it to work at all with a vanilla POE. Well,
maybe it might work for a little while, and it would probably only do 100baseT.
Then the 4/5 7/8 pins will fry.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/12/2015 4:20 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
Anyone else seen any issues with the Airfiber Module or running the
Airfiber through the Gigabit POE Injector. I am seeing an issue with TX data,
RX works fine, getting full bandwidth. TX I get about 2Mbps. Hooked up to
Regular POE and everything is fine, any ideas?
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync Injector question
It isn’t cat5/rj45, it’s 6p6c straight-through. And yes, you can daisy chain them. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of bran...@gogebicrange.net Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync Injector question Thanks I was bouncing around their website after I sent this. It appears it’s a standard Cad5 cable to chain them together. I plan to use the included cable as long as the units can be close enough together but its possible they may be in two different enclosures. Your saying that you can daisy chain two different speed units? Brandon Yuchasz From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync Injector question Sync daisy chain is all the same. Can you use the included cables? The wiring is on their website if need be. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 12:28 PM, bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Is there any reason I can’t daisy chain a Gigabit SyncInjector to one of the 10/100 SyncInjectors? We have a site climb scheduled for Monday and the SyncInjector is in the air on the platform of the structure in a box. I don’t know if it’s a Gig unit or not but I suspect it is just incase it’s a 10/100 though I want to be able to daisy chain to it. Also do I use a straight through, cross over, or standard patch cable to daisy chaining these units? Thanks, Brandon Yuchasz
Re: [AFMUG] computer sales
The bosses own a retail store that does that for us, they support customer PC issues. The retail store sells the Lenovo line that we sell to our contract support businesses, they dont move alot of them because theyre business class models outside the consumer market rice, but it keeps them on hand for us. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:48 AM, bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: We chose not to do tech support outside of our network.. It’s a grey fuzzy line between when you are fixing their internet and fixing their network or computer. I always felt that customers felt we should fix things for free and not charge after all they pay us every month. Its been easier to have a reliable local tech company to refer them to. Brandon Yuchasz *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 11:28 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] computer sales In 2015 I wouldn't bother. We left that market nearly a decade ago. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 12:20 PM, Rex-List Account xorex63l...@gmail.com wrote: How many guys do computer sales as a service for your customers? Where do you source them from? Is there a decent mark up? It seems like I get asked a lot about where to buy a new one. I think most people would pay a little more if you helped them decide what they need. For the most part they are clueless as to what all the options are. Do you custom build? What has worked best for you? Thanks in advance. Rex -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing
Not currently but I am working on a handful of new tower mount products. There is no reason this does not exist. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing Are there any MTOW-P models with a larger than 1.6 pipe? Or is the only open to use MTOW-D and our own larger pipe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Traci tr...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Re: [AFMUG] Getting UBNT Non M series SM's to connect to an M series AP.?
Yay! I'll get back on the project then. thanks for the input guys. On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Sort of. I have 3 legacy radios talking to the same Rocket 5M. 2 of them work, 1 only works if I turn off security. So with nothing else to lose and a 7 hours of driving to fix 1 customer, I tried turning of AutoAck on the one that wouldn’t connect., it flipping works. I also have channel shifting available. Thanks guys for the suggestion. This is a really stupid bug though. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Thursday, February 12, 2015 8:57 PM *To:* Josh Luthman *Cc:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Getting UBNT Non M series SM's to connect to an M series AP.? We still have quite a bit of legacy cpes working with M APs. Works fine. :: Josh Reynolds, CIO, SPITwSPOTS - Pardon any brevity, this message was sent via mobile device On Feb 12, 2015 6:32 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You can doubt it all you want... I'm doing it. The other day I saw Pico m2hp with old and M Nanos. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 12, 2015 10:31 PM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: Mixing legacy clients with Airmax enabled AP's? I doubt that. John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:58pm To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting UBNT Non M series SM's to connect to an M series AP.? I never set ACK. Anywhere. On any device. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 12, 2015 7:49 PM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: Half-way correct. Legacy devices must have at least 4.0.1 -and- static ACK set. Auto-ack and they will not pass data. Also found that with legacy devices you want to use station instead of station-wds and ap-wds at the AP. Doesn't make any sense, never understood it. John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 6:53pm To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Getting UBNT Non M series SM's to connect to an M series AP.? Upgrade non M to 4.0.1 and they'll talk AirMax to an M ap. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 12, 2015 6:51 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: Turn Airmax off — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Sam Lambie samtaos...@gmail.com wrote: Is this even possible? I have been dinking with an AP and SM here on the bench for a while and can't get them to talk. The other way around, no problem. Trying to not have to do a mass swap of SM's in order to upgrade an AP if I can get away with it. -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com
[AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync Injector question
Is there any reason I can't daisy chain a Gigabit SyncInjector to one of the 10/100 SyncInjectors? We have a site climb scheduled for Monday and the SyncInjector is in the air on the platform of the structure in a box. I don't know if it's a Gig unit or not but I suspect it is just incase it's a 10/100 though I want to be able to daisy chain to it. Also do I use a straight through, cross over, or standard patch cable to daisy chaining these units? Thanks, Brandon Yuchasz
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync Injector question
There's a) powering the unit (24v for your radios or whatever) b) sync daisy chain (Syncpipe, sync injectors, etc) c) expansion bus (for use with SiteMonitor) http://manuals.packetflux.com/index.php?page=cabling-a-syncinjector-and-a-syncpipe-basic-or-deluxe Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:50 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: Daisy chain how? Sync ? Power ? Exp bus? On Feb 13, 2015 9:37 AM, bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Thanks I was bouncing around their website after I sent this. It appears it’s a standard Cad5 cable to chain them together. I plan to use the included cable as long as the units can be close enough together but its possible they may be in two different enclosures. Your saying that you can daisy chain two different speed units? Brandon Yuchasz *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 11:30 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync Injector question Sync daisy chain is all the same. Can you use the included cables? The wiring is on their website if need be. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 12:28 PM, bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Is there any reason I can’t daisy chain a Gigabit SyncInjector to one of the 10/100 SyncInjectors? We have a site climb scheduled for Monday and the SyncInjector is in the air on the platform of the structure in a box. I don’t know if it’s a Gig unit or not but I suspect it is just incase it’s a 10/100 though I want to be able to daisy chain to it. Also do I use a straight through, cross over, or standard patch cable to daisy chaining these units? Thanks, Brandon Yuchasz
Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing
I have a project that will allow big(er) dishes on small towers without torquing any of the legs. Even those crappy sheet metal self supporting towers. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing I wonder if there is demand. The only reason I ask is for 3' dishes that should have a bigger pipe. The SAF link on Rohn 25 required some extra parts (this was before MTOW products). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Not currently but I am working on a handful of new tower mount products. There is no reason this does not exist. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing Are there any MTOW-P models with a larger than 1.6 pipe? Or is the only open to use MTOW-D and our own larger pipe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Traci tr...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing
Anti pressure force fields? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I have a project that will allow big(er) dishes on small towers without torquing any of the legs. Even those crappy sheet metal self supporting towers. *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 11:11 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing I wonder if there is demand. The only reason I ask is for 3' dishes that should have a bigger pipe. The SAF link on Rohn 25 required some extra parts (this was before MTOW products). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Not currently but I am working on a handful of new tower mount products. There is no reason this does not exist. *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 11:06 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing Are there any MTOW-P models with a larger than 1.6 pipe? Or is the only open to use MTOW-D and our own larger pipe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Traci tr...@wbmfg.com wrote:
[AFMUG] computer sales
How many guys do computer sales as a service for your customers? Where do you source them from? Is there a decent mark up? It seems like I get asked a lot about where to buy a new one. I think most people would pay a little more if you helped them decide what they need. For the most part they are clueless as to what all the options are. Do you custom build? What has worked best for you? Thanks in advance. Rex
Re: [AFMUG] computer sales
In 2015 I wouldn't bother. We left that market nearly a decade ago. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 12:20 PM, Rex-List Account xorex63l...@gmail.com wrote: How many guys do computer sales as a service for your customers? Where do you source them from? Is there a decent mark up? It seems like I get asked a lot about where to buy a new one. I think most people would pay a little more if you helped them decide what they need. For the most part they are clueless as to what all the options are. Do you custom build? What has worked best for you? Thanks in advance. Rex
Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to AirFiber 24
What's the rating chuck?
On Feb 13, 2015 9:13 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I put in the highest current transformers I could find when I designed
the GigE-APC-POE.
*From:* Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com
*Sent:* Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:01 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related
to AirFiber 24
I am going to try a tycon power DC POE tomorrow, see if that will work,
just need to get it working at this point... Next step would be to run a
new Cat5. Current Cat5 is Apex9.
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Another (totally hypothetical) thought would be perhaps one of the
pairs has a slight DC unbalance causing the DC current not to split
equally, thus causing some DC flux in one of the transformers and degrading
the pulse characteristics of the transformer. Which could happen if the
UBNT injector has transformers with higher saturation specs than the
Packetflux injector.
*From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com
*Sent:* Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:09 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related
to AirFiber 24
Is it an AF24 or 5? The 24 uses 50 watts. The power control relays on
the regular and GigE injectors will only handle 1A @ 48VDC. If it's a 24,
you're likely over that. The relay contacts are probably fused.
The AF specific single-port injector uses a solid-state relay like a
SyncInjector and can handle 2A, or more, I forget what Forrest said.
That said, if the radio isn't getting enough power, it will be
unpredictable. I have seen this happen. Sounds like you've tried the
PacketFlux single AF injector and that does it too? Works fine with the
UBNT brick? I have no idea.
On 2/12/2015 6:52 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
Guys this is not my first rodeo, This is the new Gigabit 8 Port Injector
and I have also tried the Packetflux Airfiber Injector, same issue, switch
to stock UBNT POE and it works fine. This is an all DC site, with separate
DC to DC converters and everything is fused.
See POE directions direct from Packetflux
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Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
It should not work with a regular POE injector. 50 watts is too much
current for 4 pins; you need to supply power on all 8 pins. And that, in
turn, requires transformers to isolate the data lines.
So I would not expect it to work at all with a vanilla POE. Well, maybe
it might work for a little while, and it would probably only do 100baseT.
Then the 4/5 7/8 pins will fry.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/12/2015 4:20 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
Anyone else seen any issues with the Airfiber Module or running the
Airfiber through the Gigabit POE Injector. I am seeing an issue with TX
data, RX works fine, getting full bandwidth. TX I get about 2Mbps. Hooked
up to Regular POE and everything is fine, any ideas?
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
[AFMUG] Cambium 450 + 4.9 GHz Public Safety Spectrum
Late last year there was talk of a next generation platform that will accommodate 4.9 to 5.925 GHz in a single SKU. Will this be authorized for use in the US for public safety? And when? I have a need for this now.
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync Injector question
Sync daisy chain is all the same. Can you use the included cables? The wiring is on their website if need be. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 12:28 PM, bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Is there any reason I can’t daisy chain a Gigabit SyncInjector to one of the 10/100 SyncInjectors? We have a site climb scheduled for Monday and the SyncInjector is in the air on the platform of the structure in a box. I don’t know if it’s a Gig unit or not but I suspect it is just incase it’s a 10/100 though I want to be able to daisy chain to it. Also do I use a straight through, cross over, or standard patch cable to daisy chaining these units? Thanks, Brandon Yuchasz
Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing
Are there any MTOW-P models with a larger than 1.6 pipe? Or is the only open to use MTOW-D and our own larger pipe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Traci tr...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync Injector question
Daisy chain the expansion bus? Any 6p6c cable will work straight or reverse On Feb 13, 2015 9:28 AM, bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Is there any reason I can’t daisy chain a Gigabit SyncInjector to one of the 10/100 SyncInjectors? We have a site climb scheduled for Monday and the SyncInjector is in the air on the platform of the structure in a box. I don’t know if it’s a Gig unit or not but I suspect it is just incase it’s a 10/100 though I want to be able to daisy chain to it. Also do I use a straight through, cross over, or standard patch cable to daisy chaining these units? Thanks, Brandon Yuchasz
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync Injector question
Daisy chain how? Sync ? Power ? Exp bus? On Feb 13, 2015 9:37 AM, bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Thanks I was bouncing around their website after I sent this. It appears it’s a standard Cad5 cable to chain them together. I plan to use the included cable as long as the units can be close enough together but its possible they may be in two different enclosures. Your saying that you can daisy chain two different speed units? Brandon Yuchasz *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 11:30 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync Injector question Sync daisy chain is all the same. Can you use the included cables? The wiring is on their website if need be. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 12:28 PM, bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Is there any reason I can’t daisy chain a Gigabit SyncInjector to one of the 10/100 SyncInjectors? We have a site climb scheduled for Monday and the SyncInjector is in the air on the platform of the structure in a box. I don’t know if it’s a Gig unit or not but I suspect it is just incase it’s a 10/100 though I want to be able to daisy chain to it. Also do I use a straight through, cross over, or standard patch cable to daisy chaining these units? Thanks, Brandon Yuchasz
Re: [AFMUG] computer sales
We chose not to do tech support outside of our network.. It’s a grey fuzzy line between when you are fixing their internet and fixing their network or computer. I always felt that customers felt we should fix things for free and not charge after all they pay us every month. Its been easier to have a reliable local tech company to refer them to. Brandon Yuchasz From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] computer sales In 2015 I wouldn't bother. We left that market nearly a decade ago. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 12:20 PM, Rex-List Account xorex63l...@gmail.com wrote: How many guys do computer sales as a service for your customers? Where do you source them from? Is there a decent mark up? It seems like I get asked a lot about where to buy a new one. I think most people would pay a little more if you helped them decide what they need. For the most part they are clueless as to what all the options are. Do you custom build? What has worked best for you? Thanks in advance. Rex
Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to AirFiber 24
That’s a good point I had not considered. In addition to DC flux possibly
saturating the core if the current doesn’t split equally, the wire inside those
transformers is probably very small gauge, and if too small the transformer
will heat up, possibly affecting Ethernet performance or even damaging the
transformer.
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue,related to
AirFiber 24
http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=77
1.25 amps per pair or 5 amps for all 8 wires if all on the same polarity. It
will do more but the transformer starts giving off some heat. I think it
unsoldered itself at around 2 amps when I was designing it.
From: TJ Trout
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 10:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to
AirFiber 24
What's the rating chuck?
On Feb 13, 2015 9:13 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I put in the highest current transformers I could find when I designed the
GigE-APC-POE.
From: Erich Kaiser
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to
AirFiber 24
I am going to try a tycon power DC POE tomorrow, see if that will work, just
need to get it working at this point... Next step would be to run a new Cat5.
Current Cat5 is Apex9.
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Another (totally hypothetical) thought would be perhaps one of the pairs
has a slight DC unbalance causing the DC current not to split equally, thus
causing some DC flux in one of the transformers and degrading the pulse
characteristics of the transformer. Which could happen if the UBNT injector
has transformers with higher saturation specs than the Packetflux injector.
From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to
AirFiber 24
Is it an AF24 or 5? The 24 uses 50 watts. The power control relays on the
regular and GigE injectors will only handle 1A @ 48VDC. If it's a 24, you're
likely over that. The relay contacts are probably fused.
The AF specific single-port injector uses a solid-state relay like a
SyncInjector and can handle 2A, or more, I forget what Forrest said.
That said, if the radio isn't getting enough power, it will be
unpredictable. I have seen this happen. Sounds like you've tried the PacketFlux
single AF injector and that does it too? Works fine with the UBNT brick? I have
no idea.
On 2/12/2015 6:52 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
Guys this is not my first rodeo, This is the new Gigabit 8 Port Injector
and I have also tried the Packetflux Airfiber Injector, same issue, switch to
stock UBNT POE and it works fine. This is an all DC site, with separate DC to
DC converters and everything is fused.
See POE directions direct from Packetflux
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
It should not work with a regular POE injector. 50 watts is too much
current for 4 pins; you need to supply power on all 8 pins. And that, in turn,
requires transformers to isolate the data lines.
So I would not expect it to work at all with a vanilla POE. Well,
maybe it might work for a little while, and it would probably only do 100baseT.
Then the 4/5 7/8 pins will fry.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/12/2015 4:20 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
Anyone else seen any issues with the Airfiber Module or running the
Airfiber through the Gigabit POE Injector. I am seeing an issue with TX data,
RX works fine, getting full bandwidth. TX I get about 2Mbps. Hooked up to
Regular POE and everything is fine, any ideas?
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing
I wonder if there is demand. The only reason I ask is for 3' dishes that should have a bigger pipe. The SAF link on Rohn 25 required some extra parts (this was before MTOW products). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Not currently but I am working on a handful of new tower mount products. There is no reason this does not exist. *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 11:06 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing Are there any MTOW-P models with a larger than 1.6 pipe? Or is the only open to use MTOW-D and our own larger pipe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Traci tr...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. (Yes, you can fire smokers). Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in company vehicles etc. (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer. You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you come into the office). They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill. Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get to work. From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM To: memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Employee Question: How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart phone usage? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited.
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
3.5 would be good. Maybe a thinner wall? Or even better aluminum. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
3 is too big IMO I think SAF mounts call for 2.25 minimum? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
Yeah, it is legal. Some companies have added nicotine testing to their drug test panels. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Keefe John keefe...@ethoplex.com wrote: Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke? On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Smoke Free. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. (Yes, you can fire smokers). Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in company vehicles etc. (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer. You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you come into the office). They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill. Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get to work. *From:* mailto:t...@franklinisp.net t...@franklinisp.net *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM *To:* memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Employee Question: How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart phone usage? *Tyson Burris, President* *Internet Communications Inc.* *739 Commerce Dr.* *Franklin, IN 46131* *317-738-0320 317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: **www.surfici.net* [image: ICI] *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.*
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
Aluminum will really drive the cost up. From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts 3.5 would be good. Maybe a thinner wall? Or even better aluminum. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
I agree, 3 is a bit too big. If I remember correctly, when we put up our SAF 3' dishes, we were told to use 2.375 - that seems like a good size to me. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: 3 is too big IMO I think SAF mounts call for 2.25 minimum? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
[AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
Employee Question: How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart phone usage? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited.
[AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
Im a heavy smoker, I like that employers are cracking down on us, we cost companies a ton of money, whether it be smoke breaks, stinking up the joint, healthcare, or lost productivity because we are jonesing for a cigarrete and not focusing on our jobs. Fire us while you can, because eventually we will be protected like drunks. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:38 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. (Yes, you can fire smokers). Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in company vehicles etc. (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer. You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you come into the office). They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill. Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get to work. *From:* mailto:t...@franklinisp.net t...@franklinisp.net *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM *To:* memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Employee Question: How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart phone usage? *Tyson Burris, President* *Internet Communications Inc.* *739 Commerce Dr.* *Franklin, IN 46131* *317-738-0320 317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: **www.surfici.net* [image: ICI] *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.* -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
I am using two pipe to pipe clamps today or tomorrow for 30 dB Rocket Dish install . Will share pic when done. Andrew or Decibel. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 12:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
[AFMUG] epmp question
so - if we use DHCP to assign an EPMP a management address ; but then we go into spectrum locally and lose access to the radio - what is the fallback ip if it doesn't get a DHCP address? Is there one? Oops!
Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing
Chuck's starting a tower company? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:17:47 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing I have a project that will allow big(er) dishes on small towers without torquing any of the legs. Even those crappy sheet metal self supporting towers. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing I wonder if there is demand. The only reason I ask is for 3' dishes that should have a bigger pipe. The SAF link on Rohn 25 required some extra parts (this was before MTOW products). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Not currently but I am working on a handful of new tower mount products. There is no reason this does not exist. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing Are there any MTOW-P models with a larger than 1.6 pipe? Or is the only open to use MTOW-D and our own larger pipe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Traci tr...@wbmfg.com wrote: blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 + 4.9 GHz Public Safety Spectrum
ptp450 or pmp450? If it's certified for 4.9 your only application is public safety. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Brian Sullivan installe...@foxvalley.net wrote: Late last year there was talk of a next generation platform that will accommodate 4.9 to 5.925 GHz in a single SKU. Will this be authorized for use in the US for public safety? And when? I have a need for this now.
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 + 4.9 GHz Public Safety Spectrum
Yes to both (PMP and PTP variants will be released). Look for this mid-year… Matt From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 + 4.9 GHz Public Safety Spectrum ptp450 or pmp450? If it's certified for 4.9 your only application is public safety. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Brian Sullivan installe...@foxvalley.netmailto:installe...@foxvalley.net wrote: Late last year there was talk of a next generation platform that will accommodate 4.9 to 5.925 GHz in a single SKU. Will this be authorized for use in the US for public safety? And when? I have a need for this now.
Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing
M-TOW-T (tower) On 2/13/2015 12:54 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Chuck's starting a tower company? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL *From: *Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, February 13, 2015 12:17:47 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing I have a project that will allow big(er) dishes on small towers without torquing any of the legs. Even those crappy sheet metal self supporting towers. *From:* Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 11:11 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing I wonder if there is demand. The only reason I ask is for 3' dishes that should have a bigger pipe. The SAF link on Rohn 25 required some extra parts (this was before MTOW products). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Not currently but I am working on a handful of new tower mount products. There is no reason this does not exist. *From:* Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 11:06 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] M-Tow D from WB Manufacturing Are there any MTOW-P models with a larger than 1.6 pipe? Or is the only open to use MTOW-D and our own larger pipe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Traci tr...@wbmfg.com mailto:tr...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
I would surely agree with the no smoking in company vehicles. Sorry guys, it stinks up the vehicle. To the point that even without smoking in the vehicle, it gets on your clothes, you sit in the vehicle, then someone else sits in the vehicle, they go to a customer’s house, and the customer smells it and doesn’t want you in their house. It’s in the same category with customers who don’t realize their whole house stinks of cat urine, and after doing an install you have to shower and change clothes before you go to the next appointment, which may not be practical. Like the roundtable discussion I heard on TV about measles vaccinations. One person said the government shouldn’t force you to get vaccinated, but private enterprise should – Starbucks should have a sign no shirt, not shoes, no measles vaccination, no service. Another person said if you want to live in the 1940’s you should have to go all in with the 1940’s lifestyle, not use any technology invented after. Sorry, now I’m probably starting a debate about vaccinations. Geez, I hope not. I was born in 1950 and believe me, we don’t want to go back to people dying of measles. Our soldiers deployed overseas get all sorts of nasty vaccinations, the MMR shot is nothing. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. (Yes, you can fire smokers). Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in company vehicles etc. (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer. You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you come into the office). They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill. Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get to work. From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM To: memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Employee Question: How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart phone usage? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited.
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
Many 3 ft and larger dishes, especially high performance and licensed, specify a 3.5” diameter pipe. In fact some specify 4.5”, but that’s a bit excessive IMHO, at least for a 3 ft dish. The next size down is probably 2.375 which I use a lot of. The other thing once you start needing a 3.5 or 4.5 inch pipe, is support struts or stiff arms. I find it annoying that Radiowaves doesn’t have a tab to attach a stiff arm on their 3 ft licensed dishes. And no lift hook either. Grrr. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts 3 is too big IMO I think SAF mounts call for 2.25 minimum? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
They get told to watch it first time, written up 2nd/3rd times, handed to me for the final which I either decide to keep or fire. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc t...@franklinisp.net wrote: Employee Question: How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart phone usage? *Tyson Burris, President* *Internet Communications Inc.* *739 Commerce Dr.* *Franklin, IN 46131* *317-738-0320 317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: **www.surfici.net* http://www.surfici.net [image: ICI] *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.*
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
Smoke Free. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. (Yes, you can fire smokers). Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in company vehicles etc. (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer. You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you come into the office). They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill. Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get to work. *From:* mailto:t...@franklinisp.net t...@franklinisp.net *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM *To:* memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Employee Question: How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart phone usage? *Tyson Burris, President* *Internet Communications Inc.* *739 Commerce Dr.* *Franklin, IN 46131* *317-738-0320 317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: **www.surfici.net* [image: ICI] *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.*
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
Firing squad. Seriously though, we talk to them like human beings and point out the problem with their activity. If they don't correct they are written up with clear indication of the consequences if they proceed. Then you keep your word. -Ty On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc t...@franklinisp.net wrote: Employee Question: How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart phone usage? *Tyson Burris, President* *Internet Communications Inc.* *739 Commerce Dr.* *Franklin, IN 46131* *317-738-0320 317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: **www.surfici.net* http://www.surfici.net [image: ICI] *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.*
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke? On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Smoke Free. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. (Yes, you can fire smokers). Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in company vehicles etc. (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer. You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you come into the office). They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill. Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get to work. *From:* mailto:t...@franklinisp.net *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM *To:* memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Employee Question: How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart phone usage? *Tyson Burris, President** **Internet Communications Inc.** **739 Commerce Dr.** **Franklin, IN 46131** *** *317-738-0320 tel:317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 tel:317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: **www.surfici.net* ICI *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* ** *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.*
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
If you are talking about the mast, aluminum doesn’t work well, too bendy. If you want lower weight, use IMC conduit. The forming process work hardens the steel and it is actually stiffer than rigid pipe. It does have a welded seam which you might worry would rust, I haven’t experienced that though. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts Aluminum will really drive the cost up. From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts 3.5 would be good. Maybe a thinner wall? Or even better aluminum. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 11:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
Rocket Dish is Ubnt. Not Andrew or Decibel...? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: I am using two pipe to pipe clamps today or tomorrow for 30 dB Rocket Dish install . Will share pic when done. Andrew or Decibel. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 12:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
[AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100? Any benefits? We are currently running 11.2 What are you all running? Thanks Adam
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
Mounts are Andrew or Decibel. Hot dipped galvanized Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 1:10 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Rocket Dish is Ubnt. Not Andrew or Decibel...? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: I am using two pipe to pipe clamps today or tomorrow for 30 dB Rocket Dish install . Will share pic when done. Andrew or Decibel. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 12:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
I always use 3 on backhauls, smaller on AP sectors. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, 3 is a bit too big. If I remember correctly, when we put up our SAF 3' dishes, we were told to use 2.375 - that seems like a good size to me. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: 3 is too big IMO I think SAF mounts call for 2.25 minimum? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why not get up to the latest On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100? Any benefits? We are currently running 11.2 What are you all running? Thanks Adam
Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ray Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level 13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why not get up to the latest On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100? Any benefits? We are currently running 11.2 What are you all running? Thanks Adam
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
Used to use those. Much happier with Mtow! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 6:32 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: These Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 2:28 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: 2-3/8 OD rigid. No reason to go larger. If we're putting up a 3' or 4' licensed dish, then it will be with heavy-duty pipe-to-pipe kits with 5/8 all-thread and probably 4-1/2 rigid pipe. Just my opinion. On 2/13/2015 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
Working great for us too. Worth it just to get the tabs in the session status page, ability to sort, etc. The only drawback is the lack of a NONE frequency on 2.4 FSK A/P's, but that's about all we've found issues with so far. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: 13.1.3 is very stable and reliable. On Friday, February 13, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Is it stable? Working well for you? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 1:00 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level Sure is. [image: Inline image 1] On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:45 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level 13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why not get up to the latest On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100? Any benefits? We are currently running 11.2 What are you all running? Thanks Adam
Re: [AFMUG] epmp question
169.254.1.1 is supposed to work with firmware 2.3 and up I believe... On 2/13/2015 2:47 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: so - if we use DHCP to assign an EPMP a management address ; but then we go into spectrum locally and lose access to the radio - what is the fallback ip if it doesn't get a DHCP address? Is there one? Oops! 169.254.1.1 is supposed to work with firmware 2.3 and up I believe...
Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Sync Injector question
There isn't anything different between any recent injector daisy chain wise. Any straight-through cable on the syncpipe daisy-chain ports, cat5 or flat satin will work - although for longer distances you want CAT5. The sitemonitor ports can be dasychained with either a straight or reversed (1-6 to 6-1) 6p6c connector. I'm assuming you're not asking about power. -forrest On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:28 AM, bran...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Is there any reason I can’t daisy chain a Gigabit SyncInjector to one of the 10/100 SyncInjectors? We have a site climb scheduled for Monday and the SyncInjector is in the air on the platform of the structure in a box. I don’t know if it’s a Gig unit or not but I suspect it is just incase it’s a 10/100 though I want to be able to daisy chain to it. Also do I use a straight through, cross over, or standard patch cable to daisy chaining these units? Thanks, Brandon Yuchasz
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
Jason, we didn’t do drug testing and twice had major issues with employees. If these people were operating motor vehicles and killed someone, the liability would be huge. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Preemptive drug testing should not be legal. But that's another argument... On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.commailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, it is legal. Some companies have added nicotine testing to their drug test panels. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Keefe John keefe...@ethoplex.commailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com wrote: Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke? On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Smoke Free. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. (Yes, you can fire smokers). Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in company vehicles etc. (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer. You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you come into the office). They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill. Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get to work. From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM To: memb...@wispa.orgmailto:memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Employee Question: How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart phone usage? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320tel:317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540tel:317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.nethttp://www.surfici.net [ICI] What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited.
Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
13.1.3 is available for FSK, I believe Cambium has said they are planning on releasing one more version. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:45 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level 13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why not get up to the latest On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100? Any benefits? We are currently running 11.2 What are you all running? Thanks Adam
Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
Have they stopped manufacturing FSK gear? I know there's a ridiculous used market out there, but I haven't seen any official EOL. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: 13.1.3 is available for FSK, I believe Cambium has said they are planning on releasing one more version. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:45 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level 13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why not get up to the latest On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100? Any benefits? We are currently running 11.2 What are you all running? Thanks Adam
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
Just way too big of an invasion of privacy. I do understand why businesses do it, just not a fan personally. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Jason, we didn’t do drug testing and twice had major issues with employees. If these people were operating motor vehicles and killed someone, the liability would be huge. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 1:53 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Preemptive drug testing should not be legal. But that's another argument... On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, it is legal. Some companies have added nicotine testing to their drug test panels. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Keefe John keefe...@ethoplex.com wrote: Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke? On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Smoke Free. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. (Yes, you can fire smokers). Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in company vehicles etc. (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer. You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you come into the office). They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill. Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get to work. *From:* mailto:t...@franklinisp.net t...@franklinisp.net *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM *To:* memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Employee Question: How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart phone usage? *Tyson Burris, President* * Internet Communications Inc.* * 739 Commerce Dr.* * Franklin, IN 46131* *317-738-0320 317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: www.surfici.net http://www.surfici.net* [image: ICI] *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.*
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
I was astounded when I learned that we found some clean pee kits with a warming device stashed on some of our service vehicles. Had no idea the product existed. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Jason, we didn’t do drug testing and twice had major issues with employees. If these people were operating motor vehicles and killed someone, the liability would be huge. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Preemptive drug testing should not be legal. But that's another argument... On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, it is legal. Some companies have added nicotine testing to their drug test panels. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Keefe John keefe...@ethoplex.com wrote: Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke? On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Smoke Free. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. (Yes, you can fire smokers). Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in company vehicles etc. (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer. You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you come into the office). They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill. Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get to work. From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM To: memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Employee Question: How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart phone usage? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited.
Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to AirFiber 24
Awesome! On 2/13/2015 3:00 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: We have revised our recommendation in this regard: The relay on the Gigabit Injectors is actually rated for 60W DC, so it's fine to power an AF24 via the standard Gigabit injector.
Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
Is it stable? Working well for you? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ray Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level Sure is. Inline image 1 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:45 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ray Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level 13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why not get up to the latest On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100? Any benefits? We are currently running 11.2 What are you all running? Thanks Adam
Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to AirFiber 24
I think we are using the same magnetics...
From: Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 2:14 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to
AirFiber 24
The transformers we use are rated for the 802.3at spec, which is 25.50W per
pair at the powered device end, using 48V at the source end and factoring in
cable drop along a 100M cable. Note that if you do the division you'll come up
with a lower current rating than the magnetics are rated for just because of
the cable drop. The manufacturer I use actually has built quite a bit of
additional capability in their product - the actual rating is higher - closer
to, but not quite as high as what chuck is stating for the ones he uses (which
is odd since I though we were using the same magnetics).
It's amazing, though, how many of these cheap PoE injectors use a
non-power-rated transformer which is also not rated for extended power range.
-forrest
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=77
1.25 amps per pair or 5 amps for all 8 wires if all on the same polarity. It
will do more but the transformer starts giving off some heat. I think it
unsoldered itself at around 2 amps when I was designing it.
From: TJ Trout
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 10:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to
AirFiber 24
What's the rating chuck?
On Feb 13, 2015 9:13 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I put in the highest current transformers I could find when I designed the
GigE-APC-POE.
From: Erich Kaiser
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to
AirFiber 24
I am going to try a tycon power DC POE tomorrow, see if that will work,
just need to get it working at this point... Next step would be to run a new
Cat5. Current Cat5 is Apex9.
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Another (totally hypothetical) thought would be perhaps one of the pairs
has a slight DC unbalance causing the DC current not to split equally, thus
causing some DC flux in one of the transformers and degrading the pulse
characteristics of the transformer. Which could happen if the UBNT injector
has transformers with higher saturation specs than the Packetflux injector.
From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to
AirFiber 24
Is it an AF24 or 5? The 24 uses 50 watts. The power control relays on the
regular and GigE injectors will only handle 1A @ 48VDC. If it's a 24, you're
likely over that. The relay contacts are probably fused.
The AF specific single-port injector uses a solid-state relay like a
SyncInjector and can handle 2A, or more, I forget what Forrest said.
That said, if the radio isn't getting enough power, it will be
unpredictable. I have seen this happen. Sounds like you've tried the PacketFlux
single AF injector and that does it too? Works fine with the UBNT brick? I have
no idea.
On 2/12/2015 6:52 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
Guys this is not my first rodeo, This is the new Gigabit 8 Port
Injector and I have also tried the Packetflux Airfiber Injector, same issue,
switch to stock UBNT POE and it works fine. This is an all DC site, with
separate DC to DC converters and everything is fused.
See POE directions direct from Packetflux
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
wrote:
It should not work with a regular POE injector. 50 watts is too much
current for 4 pins; you need to supply power on all 8 pins. And that, in turn,
requires transformers to isolate the data lines.
So I would not expect it to work at all with a vanilla POE. Well,
maybe it might work for a little while, and it would probably only do 100baseT.
Then the 4/5 7/8 pins will fry.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/12/2015 4:20 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
Anyone else seen any issues with the Airfiber Module or running the
Airfiber through the Gigabit POE Injector. I am seeing an issue with TX data,
RX works fine, getting full bandwidth. TX I get about 2Mbps. Hooked up to
Regular POE and everything is fine, any ideas?
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
I don't think so... at least I haven't heard anything about an EOL. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Have they stopped manufacturing FSK gear? I know there's a ridiculous used market out there, but I haven't seen any official EOL. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: 13.1.3 is available for FSK, I believe Cambium has said they are planning on releasing one more version. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:45 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level 13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why not get up to the latest On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100? Any benefits? We are currently running 11.2 What are you all running? Thanks Adam
Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
13.1.3 is very stable and reliable. On Friday, February 13, 2015, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Is it stable? Working well for you? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 1:00 PM *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level Sure is. [image: Inline image 1] On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:45 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','li...@smarterbroadband.com'); wrote: I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level 13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why not get up to the latest On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','li...@smarterbroadband.com'); wrote: Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100? Any benefits? We are currently running 11.2 What are you all running? Thanks Adam
Re: [AFMUG] Setting Canopy 430 scan freqs via CNUT
Upgrade everything to 13.2.1 and 5480 is checked during the upgrade process On Friday, February 13, 2015, Craig Baird cr...@xpressweb.com wrote: I have a 430 AP that I want to put on channel 5480. It was running an 11.x firmware. If you recall, on firmware prior to 12.1.2, the first available frequency was 5485. So, I upgraded this AP in order to be able to set it to 5480. Problem is that after the upgrade, SMs with firmware prior to 12.1.2 wouldn't connect because they couldn't do 5480. So, I set the AP back to 5485 and upgraded all the SMs to 12.1.2. I then set the AP back to 5480, only to find that the SMs still wouldn't register because the frequency scan setting in the SMs didn't have the additional channels checked. So that's my question. Is there any way to do this via CNUT on all the SMs so I don't have to manually log into every one of them and check the 5480 box? Craig
Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to AirFiber 24
We have revised our recommendation in this regard: The relay on the
Gigabit Injectors is actually rated for 60W DC, so it's fine to power an
AF24 via the standard Gigabit injector.
I find it odd that this is an asymmetrical issue. Gigabit uses all four
pairs in both directions simultaneously, so a defect on a pair should
affect both directions virtually identically. This is a lot like a radio
link getting 20db less signal in one direction or the other.
Just curious, has a different *length* of patch cable between the switch
and the injector been tried (could be a reflection issue)?
-forrest
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:09 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
geo...@cbcast.com wrote:
Is it an AF24 or 5? The 24 uses 50 watts. The power control relays on
the regular and GigE injectors will only handle 1A @ 48VDC. If it's a 24,
you're likely over that. The relay contacts are probably fused.
The AF specific single-port injector uses a solid-state relay like a
SyncInjector and can handle 2A, or more, I forget what Forrest said.
That said, if the radio isn't getting enough power, it will be
unpredictable. I have seen this happen. Sounds like you've tried the
PacketFlux single AF injector and that does it too? Works fine with the
UBNT brick? I have no idea.
On 2/12/2015 6:52 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
Guys this is not my first rodeo, This is the new Gigabit 8 Port Injector
and I have also tried the Packetflux Airfiber Injector, same issue, switch
to stock UBNT POE and it works fine. This is an all DC site, with separate
DC to DC converters and everything is fused.
See POE directions direct from Packetflux
[image: Inline image 1]
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
It should not work with a regular POE injector. 50 watts is too much
current for 4 pins; you need to supply power on all 8 pins. And that, in
turn, requires transformers to isolate the data lines.
So I would not expect it to work at all with a vanilla POE. Well, maybe
it might work for a little while, and it would probably only do 100baseT.
Then the 4/5 7/8 pins will fry.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/12/2015 4:20 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
Anyone else seen any issues with the Airfiber Module or running the
Airfiber through the Gigabit POE Injector. I am seeing an issue with TX
data, RX works fine, getting full bandwidth. TX I get about 2Mbps. Hooked
up to Regular POE and everything is fine, any ideas?
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
My insurance carrier gives me a break for requiring drug testing as a condition of employment. I’m not paying a premium for my employees poor choices. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Preemptive drug testing should not be legal. But that's another argument... On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, it is legal. Some companies have added nicotine testing to their drug test panels. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Keefe John keefe...@ethoplex.com mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com wrote: Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke? On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Smoke Free. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. (Yes, you can fire smokers). Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in company vehicles etc. (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer. You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you come into the office). They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill. Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get to work. From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM To: memb...@wispa.org mailto:memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Employee Question: How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart phone usage? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 tel:317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 tel:317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net http://www.surfici.net What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited.
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
I have always told my (very Mormon) kids, if you are gonna smoke, don’t smoke tobacco... Followed up by: “And if you are going to experiment with drugs or alcohol, OK but you have to share with me” The youngest is 19 and not a single one called my bluff. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:42 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Smoke Free. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. (Yes, you can fire smokers). Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in company vehicles etc. (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer. You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you come into the office). They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill. Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get to work. From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM To: memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Employee Question: How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart phone usage? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited.
Re: [AFMUG] epmp question
Hi, This comes from the ePMP User Guide. Dan ePMP Software Manager ** If Device IP address Mode is set to DHCP and the device is unable to retrieve IP address information via DHCP, the device management IP is set to fallback IP 192.168.0.1 (AP mode), 192.168.0.2 (SM mode), 192.168.0.3 (Spectrum Analyzer mode) or the previously-configured static Device IP Address. Units may always be accessed via the Ethernet port. With Release 2.1, the fallback IP address has changed from 10.1.1.254 to 169.254.1.1. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 2:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] epmp question You'll need to set static arp if you don't get the right device initially. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 3:50 PM, Jerry Head li...@blountbroadband.commailto:li...@blountbroadband.com wrote: 169.254.1.1 is supposed to work with firmware 2.3 and up I believe... On 2/13/2015 2:47 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: � so - if we use DHCP to assign an EPMP a management address ; but then we go into spectrum locally and lose access to the radio - what is the fallback ip if it doesn't get a DHCP address?�� Is there one?�� Oops! � � 169.254.1.1 is supposed to work with firmware 2.3 and up I believe...
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
2-3/8 OD rigid. No reason to go larger. If we're putting up a 3' or 4' licensed dish, then it will be with heavy-duty pipe-to-pipe kits with 5/8 all-thread and probably 4-1/2 rigid pipe. Just my opinion. On 2/13/2015 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
I dig it. we went to it primarily because of the spectrum without changing.. Its like free government cheese On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Ryan Ray ryan...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:19 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Is it stable? Working well for you? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 1:00 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level Sure is. [image: Inline image 1] On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:45 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level 13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why not get up to the latest On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100? Any benefits? We are currently running 11.2 What are you all running? Thanks Adam -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
On 2/13/15 11:46, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe. I like 2-3/8 OD pipe for small MW antennas. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] epmp question
You'll need to set static arp if you don't get the right device initially. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 3:50 PM, Jerry Head li...@blountbroadband.com wrote: 169.254.1.1 is supposed to work with firmware 2.3 and up I believe... On 2/13/2015 2:47 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: � so - if we use DHCP to assign an EPMP a management address ; but then we go into spectrum locally and lose access to the radio - what is the fallback ip if it doesn't get a DHCP address?�� Is there one?�� Oops! � � 169.254.1.1 is supposed to work with firmware 2.3 and up I believe...
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
Preemptive drug testing should not be legal. But that's another argument... On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, it is legal. Some companies have added nicotine testing to their drug test panels. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Keefe John keefe...@ethoplex.com wrote: Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke? On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Smoke Free. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. (Yes, you can fire smokers). Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in company vehicles etc. (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer. You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you come into the office). They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill. Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get to work. *From:* mailto:t...@franklinisp.net t...@franklinisp.net *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM *To:* memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Employee Question: How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart phone usage? *Tyson Burris, President* *Internet Communications Inc.* *739 Commerce Dr.* *Franklin, IN 46131* *317-738-0320 317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: **www.surfici.net* [image: ICI] *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.*
Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
Sure is. [image: Inline image 1] On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:45 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level 13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100. Why not get up to the latest On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100? Any benefits? We are currently running 11.2 What are you all running? Thanks Adam
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
It is legal to fire someone because they do smoke, so I would think you can discriminate against them on the front end as well. From: Keefe John Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke? On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Smoke Free. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. (Yes, you can fire smokers). Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in company vehicles etc. (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer. You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you come into the office). They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill. Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get to work. From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM To: memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Employee Question: How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart phone usage? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited.
Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related to AirFiber 24
The transformers we use are rated for the 802.3at spec, which is 25.50W per
pair at the powered device end, using 48V at the source end and factoring
in cable drop along a 100M cable. Note that if you do the division you'll
come up with a lower current rating than the magnetics are rated for just
because of the cable drop. The manufacturer I use actually has built
quite a bit of additional capability in their product - the actual rating
is higher - closer to, but not quite as high as what chuck is stating for
the ones he uses (which is odd since I though we were using the same
magnetics).
It's amazing, though, how many of these cheap PoE injectors use a
non-power-rated transformer which is also not rated for extended power
range.
-forrest
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
http://www.wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=77
1.25 amps per pair or 5 amps for all 8 wires if all on the same polarity.
It will do more but the transformer starts giving off some heat. I think
it unsoldered itself at around 2 amps when I was designing it.
*From:* TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com
*Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 10:34 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related
to AirFiber 24
What's the rating chuck?
On Feb 13, 2015 9:13 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I put in the highest current transformers I could find when I
designed the GigE-APC-POE.
*From:* Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com
*Sent:* Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:01 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related
to AirFiber 24
I am going to try a tycon power DC POE tomorrow, see if that will work,
just need to get it working at this point... Next step would be to run a
new Cat5. Current Cat5 is Apex9.
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Another (totally hypothetical) thought would be perhaps one of the
pairs has a slight DC unbalance causing the DC current not to split
equally, thus causing some DC flux in one of the transformers and degrading
the pulse characteristics of the transformer. Which could happen if the
UBNT injector has transformers with higher saturation specs than the
Packetflux injector.
*From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com
*Sent:* Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:09 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor Gigabit POE Injector Issue, related
to AirFiber 24
Is it an AF24 or 5? The 24 uses 50 watts. The power control relays on
the regular and GigE injectors will only handle 1A @ 48VDC. If it's a 24,
you're likely over that. The relay contacts are probably fused.
The AF specific single-port injector uses a solid-state relay like a
SyncInjector and can handle 2A, or more, I forget what Forrest said.
That said, if the radio isn't getting enough power, it will be
unpredictable. I have seen this happen. Sounds like you've tried the
PacketFlux single AF injector and that does it too? Works fine with the
UBNT brick? I have no idea.
On 2/12/2015 6:52 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
Guys this is not my first rodeo, This is the new Gigabit 8 Port Injector
and I have also tried the Packetflux Airfiber Injector, same issue, switch
to stock UBNT POE and it works fine. This is an all DC site, with separate
DC to DC converters and everything is fused.
See POE directions direct from Packetflux
[image: Inline image 1]
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
wrote:
It should not work with a regular POE injector. 50 watts is too much
current for 4 pins; you need to supply power on all 8 pins. And that, in
turn, requires transformers to isolate the data lines.
So I would not expect it to work at all with a vanilla POE. Well,
maybe it might work for a little while, and it would probably only do
100baseT. Then the 4/5 7/8 pins will fry.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/12/2015 4:20 PM, Erich Kaiser wrote:
Anyone else seen any issues with the Airfiber Module or running the
Airfiber through the Gigabit POE Injector. I am seeing an issue with TX
data, RX works fine, getting full bandwidth. TX I get about 2Mbps. Hooked
up to Regular POE and everything is fine, any ideas?
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use
3 types of drug testing: 1) screen all candidates 2) make offer with drug test as condition of employment 3) random testing of employees There is some controversy about 1 and 3. Pretty hard to argue with 2. Here’s an offer of employment conditional on passing a drug test at XYZ independent testing lab before your first day. Go pee in the cup and they will contact us saying you pass or fail. If employees drive on the job or operate machinery, I can understand even random testing. I could also understand if they will be working unsupervised in customer houses. One other consideration, and I’m talking more about hard drugs here than alcohol or marijuana. Most cases of employee theft are driven by drug addiction. You will find things like employees selling your inventory and tools to get money. I remember Doug Clark posting about a bad experience when he found out he had hired a junkie as an installer. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 3:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Just way too big of an invasion of privacy. I do understand why businesses do it, just not a fan personally. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Jason, we didn’t do drug testing and twice had major issues with employees. If these people were operating motor vehicles and killed someone, the liability would be huge. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 1:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Preemptive drug testing should not be legal. But that's another argument... On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, it is legal. Some companies have added nicotine testing to their drug test panels. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Keefe John keefe...@ethoplex.com wrote: Is it legal to not hire someone just because they smoke? On 2/13/2015 2:42 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Smoke Free. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 12:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: If they smoke they find happiness elsewhere. (Yes, you can fire smokers). Or a policy of no smoking on the clock, while at work, on company property, in company vehicles etc. (Sorry smokers, you get no love from me, and I was a smoker and chewer. You drive up insurance rates, stink up vehicles and smell bad yourself when you come into the office). They get a small stipend and pay their own phone bill. Supervisors need to have the balls to tell them to put the phone away and get to work. From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM To: memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Employee Breaks and Phone Use Employee Question: How does your organization handle excessive smoke breaks and constant smart phone usage? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited.
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
We use a fair amount of UBNT RD-5G30 dishes, and I prefer to mount them with M-TOW-P-36. I don't know what size the pipe is, but I find that it is useful for just about everything we do. If we are doing something like a PTP-800 or SAF links, I use a larger pipe with a different type of mount. For smaller links using ARC IE kits, we use the M-TOW-10. Again, the pipe diameter is perfect. For a tower mount with a larger pipe, do you plan to still use the same design for fixing it to the tower (ie. saddle to saddle with bolts)? Or will something more heavy duty be used with u-bolts to a mount that holds a pipe? To clarify, this CommScope kit https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=500401eventGroup=4eventPage=1 uses brackets that mount to the tower and separate brackets to hold the pipe. I ask because one of the things I like the most about the M-TOW mounts, especially the 36 mounts is that I can mount the dish to it and then have sent up the tower. For larger dishes, I like to have the pipe mounted to the dish, but have the hardware for mounting to the tower sent up separately. Depending on the tower, sometimes I have to loosen other cables to get my mounts fixed and doing this with a large dish and mount at the same time can be a pain. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:27 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: 2-3/8 OD rigid. No reason to go larger. If we're putting up a 3' or 4' licensed dish, then it will be with heavy-duty pipe-to-pipe kits with 5/8 all-thread and probably 4-1/2 rigid pipe. Just my opinion. On 2/13/2015 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
I guess I should have looked at another M-TOW. It isn't listed on the M-TOW-P-36 spec sheet. Thanks!! Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Pipe is currently 1.685 OD http://wbmfg.com/specs/M-TOW-P.PDF Normal MTOWP is 24 tall, but there's a 36 and 48 inch option. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Vince West vi...@shelbybb.com wrote: We use a fair amount of UBNT RD-5G30 dishes, and I prefer to mount them with M-TOW-P-36. I don't know what size the pipe is, but I find that it is useful for just about everything we do. If we are doing something like a PTP-800 or SAF links, I use a larger pipe with a different type of mount. For smaller links using ARC IE kits, we use the M-TOW-10. Again, the pipe diameter is perfect. For a tower mount with a larger pipe, do you plan to still use the same design for fixing it to the tower (ie. saddle to saddle with bolts)? Or will something more heavy duty be used with u-bolts to a mount that holds a pipe? To clarify, this CommScope kit https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=500401eventGroup=4eventPage=1 uses brackets that mount to the tower and separate brackets to hold the pipe. I ask because one of the things I like the most about the M-TOW mounts, especially the 36 mounts is that I can mount the dish to it and then have sent up the tower. For larger dishes, I like to have the pipe mounted to the dish, but have the hardware for mounting to the tower sent up separately. Depending on the tower, sometimes I have to loosen other cables to get my mounts fixed and doing this with a large dish and mount at the same time can be a pain. Vince West Tower Hand Technical Support Shelby Broadband 148 Citizens Blvd Simpsonville, KY 40067 Phone: 1-888-364-4232 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:27 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: 2-3/8 OD rigid. No reason to go larger. If we're putting up a 3' or 4' licensed dish, then it will be with heavy-duty pipe-to-pipe kits with 5/8 all-thread and probably 4-1/2 rigid pipe. Just my opinion. On 2/13/2015 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
[AFMUG] RF Armor shield with ARC wireless 3 foot dish
Does anyone know if the RF Armor 3 foot RocketDish shield will work with the ARC Wireless 3 foot dish? Just looking at pictures, the ARC dish looks virtually identical to the RocketDish. Just wondering if the shield kit will fit it. Streakwave is all out of 3 foot RocketDishes, so I'm looking at alternatives, but I've got to have the shield. Craig
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
Thata what I am working on Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 4:47 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Stock mtow instead :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 6:44 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: I am working on getting them disturbed by epcom locally. This box is last we have in stock.. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 4:33 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Used to use those. Much happier with Mtow! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 6:32 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: These Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 2:28 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: 2-3/8 OD rigid. No reason to go larger. If we're putting up a 3' or 4' licensed dish, then it will be with heavy-duty pipe-to-pipe kits with 5/8 all-thread and probably 4-1/2 rigid pipe. Just my opinion. On 2/13/2015 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
Would REALLY like to see the femtocell fix on FSK
Just sayin'
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/13/2015 1:00 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
13.1.3 is available for FSK, I believe Cambium has said they are
planning on releasing one more version.
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:45 PM, SmarterBroadband
li...@smarterbroadband.com mailto:li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote:
I don’t think 13.1.3 is available for PMP100 yet.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
*Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 12:27 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
13.1.3. Probably the last software version they will make for 100.
Why not get up to the latest
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband
li...@smarterbroadband.com mailto:li...@smarterbroadband.com
wrote:
Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100? Any benefits?
We are currently running 11.2
What are you all running?
Thanks
Adam
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
I am working on getting them disturbed by epcom locally. This box is last we have in stock.. Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 4:33 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Used to use those. Much happier with Mtow! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 6:32 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: These Jaime Solorza On Feb 13, 2015 2:28 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: 2-3/8 OD rigid. No reason to go larger. If we're putting up a 3' or 4' licensed dish, then it will be with heavy-duty pipe-to-pipe kits with 5/8 all-thread and probably 4-1/2 rigid pipe. Just my opinion. On 2/13/2015 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
Re: [AFMUG] epmp question
We have a winner. 192.168.0.3. Luckily, I saw the message pop up on the second try after defaulting the radio. And be sure you have Java installed. Apparently, my recently reloaded field unit didn't have it. Dan Sullivan wrote: Hi, This comes from the ePMP User Guide. Dan ePMP Software Manager ** If *Device IP address Mode* is set to *DHCP* and the device is unable to retrieve IP address information via DHCP, the device management IP is set to fallback IP 192.168.0.1 (AP mode), 192.168.0.2 (SM mode), 192.168.0.3 (Spectrum Analyzer mode) or the previously-configured static Device IP Address. Units may always be accessed via the Ethernet port. With Release 2.1, the fallback IP address has changed from 10.1.1.254 to 169.254.1.1. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 2:53 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] epmp question You'll need to set static arp if you don't get the right device initially. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 13, 2015 3:50 PM, Jerry Head li...@blountbroadband.com mailto:li...@blountbroadband.com wrote: 169.254.1.1 is supposed to work with firmware 2.3 and up I believe... On 2/13/2015 2:47 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: � so - if we use DHCP to assign an EPMP a management address ; but then we go into spectrum locally and lose access to the radio - what is the fallback ip if it doesn't get a DHCP address?�� Is there one?�� Oops! � � 169.254.1.1 is supposed to work with firmware 2.3 and up I believe...
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
If I need something bigger than what is on the MTOW-P, I would want 3
sizes, 2.875 OD, 3.5 OD, and 4.5 OD. Depends on the dish/sector.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/13/2015 11:46 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on
a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
The question is, what size pipe?
I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large
enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
Re: [AFMUG] PMP 100 System Software level
We just upgraded a bunch of FSK to 13.1.3, and it's smoothed out some
re-reg issues we were having on 11.2.
I also really like the tabular status pages (that are sortable on
different columns). Real time saver!
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/13/2015 12:18 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
Is it worth going to 13.1.1 on PMP 100? Any benefits?
We are currently running 11.2
What are you all running?
Thanks
Adam
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
I’ll post some photos of the beta units.
From: Erich Kaiser
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:40 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
With Rohn type tower, it seems there is a ton of bending/flexing with any
weight, maybe a welded smaller diameter for leg side specific up to Rohn 55G
with larger pipe side up to around 2 3/8? Maybe a welded spacer from small
side to large side (To get it away from the leg), kinda like MTow style but a
solid piece?
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
We have a similar product to those now. But my new stuff is totally
different.
From: Erich Kaiser
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
Probably something similar to this
http://www.ciwireless.com/product/pipe-to-pipe-clamp-set-for-1-12-in-3-12-in-od-pipes-14-in-thick-set-of-2/
They also work great for Grain legs.
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower Consulting
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
OK, but for the first product out the door, I am trying to pick the best
size. I can later offer the different size but we gotta get the product out
there on beta test. I am leaning strongly towards 2.875” as you really don’t
want larger dishes on small towers. A dish large enough to want 4.5” is not
going to be too happy hanging off the side of a 45G.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 5:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
If I need something bigger than what is on the MTOW-P, I would want 3
sizes, 2.875 OD, 3.5 OD, and 4.5 OD. Depends on the dish/sector.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/13/2015 11:46 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a
Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type.
And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P
The question is, what size pipe?
I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD.
Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”.
The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large
enough to make SAF type mounts happy?
Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
Re: [AFMUG] Pipe Mounts
These are what I've used. They are heavy duty and inexpensive and work with a large range of pipe sizes. Also, you can replace the bolts with allthread to build a mount on two sides for clusters (for example, on a single pole on top of a tower). http://www.ciwireless.com/product/pipe-to-pipe-clamp-set-for-1-12-in-3-12-in-od-pipes-12-in-thick-set-of-2/ On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Jaime Solorza I am doing this universal pipe mount that will allow a larger dish on a Rohn type or crappy sheet metal freestanding type. And doing the larger version of the M-TOW-P The question is, what size pipe? I had initially designed it with 3 inch pipe which is actually 3.5” OD. Looking at the pipe chart, 2.5” has an OD of 2.875”. The smaller pipe would be noticeably lighter to heft. Is that large enough to make SAF type mounts happy? Or would y’all rather have the larger pipe.
Re: [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results
Jeremy, Yes I had issues but I didn't call support. It took me almost 2 hours to get the two radios to see each other but I finally got them too. I wasn't following the PTP quick start guide like I was told to. When I initially configured the radios I disabled the 2nd port (called WAN) in the manual. For some reason they would not link until I turned it back on. Even though I wasn't using the WAN port. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: I had some issues with the configuration and couldn't ever get them to pass traffic. Did you run into any issues that required support? On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I saw that too when I was reviewing the brochure this morning. I was just assuming they were considering this a long range product. Kurt, do you mind telling me what those radios cost? Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 7:36 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Trango Altum AC PTP test results Just got done testing a Trango Altum AC PTP link on the bench. Units are 25db integrated panels. Did a 40mhz channel test and 80mhz via UDP. I tried a TCP test between two RB2011's and best I seen was 175-180'ish and that was with both 40 and 80mhz channels. CPU seemed to be maxing out on the 2011's. Has UNI-1 bands and ISM bands. I was hoping it had the middle DFS bands but it doesn't :( Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
