Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Faisal Imtiaz]

That my friend would be the Astrological Zodiac sign Uranus !

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Christopher Tyler" <ch...@totalhighspeed.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 1:56:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

> What's the astrological sign for a**hole?
> (written in good humor of course)
> 
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 12:47:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
> 
> It has to look like a hot chick, that’s all I’m sayin’ about that
> 
> From: Bill Prince
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 11:35 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
> 
> I've also heard tell that Geminis are bisexual.
> 
> 
> 
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> 
> On 1/23/2017 10:30 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> 
>  From Wikipedia...
> 
> 
>  I think it is fairly accurate !
> 
> 
>  :)
> 
> 
> 
>  ---
> 
>  Astrologers believe Geminis have a volatile temperament, that their strength
>  however is their versatility, and that their versatility allows them to 
> learn a
>  little about everything and develop skills in many areas. Geminis are
>  considered to hold mysteriously unique artistic and creative abilities unlike
>  other signs. Often considered to be very intelligent individuals, they have a
>  wide appreciation for the arts, philosophy, history and the natural sciences.
>  They do not like boring people or routine procedures and therefore struggle 
> to
>  deal with authoritative figures. They are enlightened to talk about any 
> subject
>  which they find interesting and where they can stimulate their naturally
>  intellectual personalities. Geminis are noted to be drastic and hasty yet 
> very
>  responsible and disciplined. They are considered to be the most misunderstood
>  of all signs due to their dual personality expressed by the twins of their
>  sign. Because of this, don't be surprised to often find Geminis in different
>  moods and therefore mood swings can occur often for Geminis because of their
>  high degree of mental processing and thinking. This makes them quite
>  philosophical people. Geminis are sensitive as well but use their high
>  intelligence to counter anything that upsets them
>  ==
> 
> 
>  Faisal Imtiaz
>  Snappy Internet & Telecom
>  7266 SW 48 Street
>  Miami, FL 33155
>  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> 
>  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> 
> 
> --
> 
>From: ch...@wbmfg.com
>    To: af@afmug.com
>Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 1:18:16 PM
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
> 
>Well June 21
>Perhaps
> 
>From: Faisal Imtiaz
> 
>Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM
>To: af@afmug.com
> 
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
> 
>>Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve.  I can switch to either 
> side of
>>an argument at will for fun.
> 
> 
>Are you a Gemini by any chance ?
> 
> 
> 
>Faisal Imtiaz
>Snappy Internet & Telecom
>    7266 SW 48 Street
>Miami, FL 33155
>Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> 
>Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: ch...@wbmfg.com
>  To: af@afmug.com
>  Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 12:14:54 PM
>  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
> 
>  I don’t think anyone has ever been knocked off the list.  Shouted down 
> at times.
>      Insulted.  But never knocked off.
> 
>  Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve.  I can switch to either 
> side of
>  an argument at will for fun.
> 
>  With the exception of being a Clinton supporter.  Just cannot make 
> myself go
>  there.
> 
>  From: That One Guy /sarcasm
> 
>  Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:47 PM
>  To: af@afmug.com
> 
>  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
> 
>  just fyi if jaime gets knocked off the list, im taking my toys and going 
> home
> 
>  i

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Bill Prince]

No. That was me. I shot myself in the back of the head three times, and 
in the per-frontal cortex four more times (after I read this thread).



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/23/2017 11:38 AM, Sam Morris wrote:
Vince Foster...isn't he the guy who committed suicide by shooting 
himself in the back of the head three times?



On 1/22/2017 4:44 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Fact Bill, they are dead and they all had harmed or could have harmed
Bill or Hillary.
Just go through the list one by one.  Some of it related to Waco.  Many
related to Whitewater or Monica.
Remember Vince Foster?
One or three could be a coincidence.  10 perhaps just a series of
unfortunate and unrelated events, but 63 of them?  Just happenstance?
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:38 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

Give. Me. A. Break.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 2:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people
are as dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on
the Clintons or had information that could harm the Clintons.
So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet
heard of anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.

 1. Susan Coleman:
 2. Larry Guerrin:
 3. Kevin Ives
 4. Don Henry:
 5. Keith Coney:
 6. Keith McKaskle:
 7. Gregory Collins:
 8. Jeff Rhodes:
 9. James Milam:
10. Richard Winters:
11. Jordan Kettleson:
12. Alan Standorf:
13. Dennis Eisman: .
14. Danny Casalaro:
15. Victor Raiser:
16. R. Montgomery Raiser:
17. Paul Tully:
18. Ian Spiro:
19. Paula Gober:
20. Jim Wilhite:
21. Steve Willis,
22. Robert Williams,
23. Todd McKeahan
24. Conway LeBleu:
25. Sgt. Brian Haney,
26. Sgt. Tim Sabel,
27. Maj. William Barkley,
28. Capt. Scott Reynolds:
29. John Crawford:
30. John Wilson:
31. Paul Wilcher:
32. Vincent Foster:
33. Jon Parnell Walker:
34. Stanley Heard
35. Steven Dickson:
36. Jerry Luther Parks:
37. Ed Willey:
38. Gandy Baugh:
39. Herschell Friday:
40. Ronald Rogers:
41. Kathy Furguson:
42. Bill Shelton:
43. Stanley Huggins:
44. Paul Olson:
45. Calvin Walraven:
46. Alan G. Whicher:
47. Duane Garrett:
48. Ron Brown:.
49. Charles Meissner:
50. William Colby:
51. Admiral Jeremy Boorda:
52. Lance Herndon:
53. Neil Moody:
54. Barbara Wise:
55. Doug Adams:
56. Mary C. Mahoney:
57. Ronald Miller:
58. Sandy Hume:
59. Jim McDougal:
60. Johnny Lawhon:
61. Charles Wilbourne Miller:
62. Carlos Ghigliotti:
63. Tony Moser:

From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some
were legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's
your right. I do not.
On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler"
mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote:
He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions.
Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been
mostly 'spenders'
Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com
wrote:
Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often
happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.
On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler"
mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote:
Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if
your looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible.
Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now
Waiting for right time to do it comrades
On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com
wrote:
https://streamable.com/md28v
I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is
not some kind of joke taken too far...
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751 


On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza"
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website.
The bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half attended
inauguration Women's March had a lot more... His ego is bruised.
Let me Trumpspeak... So sad.
On Jan 22, 2017 12:47 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:
there is this gem now
http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt
mailto:s...@genias.net wrote:
Today we’ve great possibilities to spread news. But it is very
difficult to get the real information

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Sam Morris]

Vince Foster...isn't he the guy who committed suicide by shooting 
himself in the back of the head three times?



On 1/22/2017 4:44 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Fact Bill, they are dead and they all had harmed or could have harmed
Bill or Hillary.
Just go through the list one by one.  Some of it related to Waco.  Many
related to Whitewater or Monica.
Remember Vince Foster?
One or three could be a coincidence.  10 perhaps just a series of
unfortunate and unrelated events, but 63 of them?  Just happenstance?
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:38 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

Give. Me. A. Break.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 2:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people
are as dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on
the Clintons or had information that could harm the Clintons.
So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet
heard of anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.

 1. Susan Coleman:
 2. Larry Guerrin:
 3. Kevin Ives
 4. Don Henry:
 5. Keith Coney:
 6. Keith McKaskle:
 7. Gregory Collins:
 8. Jeff Rhodes:
 9. James Milam:
10. Richard Winters:
11. Jordan Kettleson:
12. Alan Standorf:
13. Dennis Eisman: .
14. Danny Casalaro:
15. Victor Raiser:
16. R. Montgomery Raiser:
17. Paul Tully:
18. Ian Spiro:
19. Paula Gober:
20. Jim Wilhite:
21. Steve Willis,
22. Robert Williams,
23. Todd McKeahan
24. Conway LeBleu:
25. Sgt. Brian Haney,
26. Sgt. Tim Sabel,
27. Maj. William Barkley,
28. Capt. Scott Reynolds:
29. John Crawford:
30. John Wilson:
31. Paul Wilcher:
32. Vincent Foster:
33. Jon Parnell Walker:
34. Stanley Heard
35. Steven Dickson:
36. Jerry Luther Parks:
37. Ed Willey:
38. Gandy Baugh:
39. Herschell Friday:
40. Ronald Rogers:
41. Kathy Furguson:
42. Bill Shelton:
43. Stanley Huggins:
44. Paul Olson:
45. Calvin Walraven:
46. Alan G. Whicher:
47. Duane Garrett:
48. Ron Brown:.
49. Charles Meissner:
50. William Colby:
51. Admiral Jeremy Boorda:
52. Lance Herndon:
53. Neil Moody:
54. Barbara Wise:
55. Doug Adams:
56. Mary C. Mahoney:
57. Ronald Miller:
58. Sandy Hume:
59. Jim McDougal:
60. Johnny Lawhon:
61. Charles Wilbourne Miller:
62. Carlos Ghigliotti:
63. Tony Moser:

From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some
were legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's
your right. I do not.
On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler"
mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote:
He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions.
Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been
mostly 'spenders'
Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com
wrote:
Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often
happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.
On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler"
mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote:
Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if
your looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible.
Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now
Waiting for right time to do it comrades
On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com
wrote:
https://streamable.com/md28v
I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is
not some kind of joke taken too far...
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751
On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza"
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website.
The bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half attended
inauguration Women's March had a lot more... His ego is bruised.
Let me Trumpspeak... So sad.
On Jan 22, 2017 12:47 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:
there is this gem now
http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt
mailto:s...@genias.net wrote:
Today we’ve great possibilities to spread news. But it is very
difficult to get the real information unbiased. Breitbart is known to
be very biased even here over the ocean. But it seems the „normal“
media in USA is biased, too.
E.g. we never understood how Bush jun. got his second election where
it was clear he started a war based 

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Josh Reynolds]

Cancer.

In Chinese zodiac, it's the "cock".

Source: am cancer/cock

On Jan 23, 2017 12:56 PM, "Christopher Tyler" <ch...@totalhighspeed.net>
wrote:

> What's the astrological sign for a**hole?
> (written in good humor of course)
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
> - Original Message -
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 12:47:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
> It has to look like a hot chick, that’s all I’m sayin’ about that
>
> From: Bill Prince
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 11:35 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
> I've also heard tell that Geminis are bisexual.
>
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/23/2017 10:30 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>
>   From Wikipedia...
>
>
>   I think it is fairly accurate !
>
>
>   :)
>
>
>
>   ---
>
>   Astrologers believe Geminis have a volatile temperament, that their
> strength however is their versatility, and that their versatility allows
> them to learn a little about everything and develop skills in many areas.
> Geminis are considered to hold mysteriously unique artistic and creative
> abilities unlike other signs. Often considered to be very intelligent
> individuals, they have a wide appreciation for the arts, philosophy,
> history and the natural sciences. They do not like boring people or routine
> procedures and therefore struggle to deal with authoritative figures. They
> are enlightened to talk about any subject which they find interesting and
> where they can stimulate their naturally intellectual personalities.
> Geminis are noted to be drastic and hasty yet very responsible and
> disciplined. They are considered to be the most misunderstood of all signs
> due to their dual personality expressed by the twins of their sign. Because
> of this, don't be surprised to often find Geminis in different moods and
> therefore mood swings can occur often for Geminis because of their high
> degree of mental processing and thinking. This makes them quite
> philosophical people. Geminis are sensitive as well but use their high
> intelligence to counter anything that upsets them
>   ==
>
>
>   Faisal Imtiaz
>   Snappy Internet & Telecom
>   7266 SW 48 Street
>   Miami, FL 33155
>   Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
>   Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> 
> --
>
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 1:18:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
> Well June 21
> Perhaps
>
> From: Faisal Imtiaz
>
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
> >Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve.  I can switch to
> either side of an argument at will for fun.
>
>
> Are you a Gemini by any chance ?
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
>     Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> 
> 
>
>   From: ch...@wbmfg.com
>   To: af@afmug.com
>   Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 12:14:54 PM
>   Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
>   I don’t think anyone has ever been knocked off the list.  Shouted
> down at times.  Insulted.  But never knocked off.
>
>   Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve.  I can switch to
> either side of an argument at will for fun.
>
>   With the exception of being a Clinton supporter.  Just cannot make
> myself go there.
>
>   From: That One Guy /sarcasm
>
>   Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:47 PM
>   To: af@afmug.com
>
>   Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
>   just fyi if jaime gets knocked off the list, im taking my toys and
> going home
>
>   in 4 years hes going to be showing us pictures of tecate and some
> insanely tasty looking crow anyway :-)
>
>
>   On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't buy that... Respect your opinion but I don't buy that 63
> list...
>
> I have

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

better be capricorn

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Christopher Tyler <
ch...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:

> What's the astrological sign for a**hole?
> (written in good humor of course)
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
> - Original Message -
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 12:47:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
> It has to look like a hot chick, that’s all I’m sayin’ about that
>
> From: Bill Prince
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 11:35 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
> I've also heard tell that Geminis are bisexual.
>
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 1/23/2017 10:30 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>
>   From Wikipedia...
>
>
>   I think it is fairly accurate !
>
>
>   :)
>
>
>
>   ---
>
>   Astrologers believe Geminis have a volatile temperament, that their
> strength however is their versatility, and that their versatility allows
> them to learn a little about everything and develop skills in many areas.
> Geminis are considered to hold mysteriously unique artistic and creative
> abilities unlike other signs. Often considered to be very intelligent
> individuals, they have a wide appreciation for the arts, philosophy,
> history and the natural sciences. They do not like boring people or routine
> procedures and therefore struggle to deal with authoritative figures. They
> are enlightened to talk about any subject which they find interesting and
> where they can stimulate their naturally intellectual personalities.
> Geminis are noted to be drastic and hasty yet very responsible and
> disciplined. They are considered to be the most misunderstood of all signs
> due to their dual personality expressed by the twins of their sign. Because
> of this, don't be surprised to often find Geminis in different moods and
> therefore mood swings can occur often for Geminis because of their high
> degree of mental processing and thinking. This makes them quite
> philosophical people. Geminis are sensitive as well but use their high
> intelligence to counter anything that upsets them
>   ==
>
>
>   Faisal Imtiaz
>   Snappy Internet & Telecom
>   7266 SW 48 Street
>   Miami, FL 33155
>   Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
>   Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> 
> --
>
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 1:18:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
> Well June 21
> Perhaps
>
> From: Faisal Imtiaz
>
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
> >Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve.  I can switch to
> either side of an argument at will for fun.
>
>
> Are you a Gemini by any chance ?
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> 
> 
>
>   From: ch...@wbmfg.com
>   To: af@afmug.com
>   Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 12:14:54 PM
>   Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
>   I don’t think anyone has ever been knocked off the list.  Shouted
> down at times.  Insulted.  But never knocked off.
>
>   Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve.  I can switch to
> either side of an argument at will for fun.
>
>   With the exception of being a Clinton supporter.  Just cannot make
> myself go there.
>
>   From: That One Guy /sarcasm
>
>   Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:47 PM
>   To: af@afmug.com
>
>   Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
>   just fyi if jaime gets knocked off the list, im taking my toys and
> going home
>
>   in 4 years hes going to be showing us pictures of tecate and some
> insanely tasty looking crow anyway :-)
>
>
>   On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Jaime Solorza <
> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't buy that... Respect your opinion but I don't buy that 63
> list...
>
> I have no confidence in Trump... I think he is bad for our
> country..

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Christopher Tyler]

What's the astrological sign for a**hole?
(written in good humor of course)

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- Original Message -
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 12:47:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

It has to look like a hot chick, that’s all I’m sayin’ about that

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 11:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

I've also heard tell that Geminis are bisexual.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/23/2017 10:30 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

  From Wikipedia... 


  I think it is fairly accurate ! 


  :)



  ---

  Astrologers believe Geminis have a volatile temperament, that their strength 
however is their versatility, and that their versatility allows them to learn a 
little about everything and develop skills in many areas. Geminis are 
considered to hold mysteriously unique artistic and creative abilities unlike 
other signs. Often considered to be very intelligent individuals, they have a 
wide appreciation for the arts, philosophy, history and the natural sciences. 
They do not like boring people or routine procedures and therefore struggle to 
deal with authoritative figures. They are enlightened to talk about any subject 
which they find interesting and where they can stimulate their naturally 
intellectual personalities. Geminis are noted to be drastic and hasty yet very 
responsible and disciplined. They are considered to be the most misunderstood 
of all signs due to their dual personality expressed by the twins of their 
sign. Because of this, don't be surprised to often find Geminis in different 
moods and therefore mood swings can occur often for Geminis because of their 
high degree of mental processing and thinking. This makes them quite 
philosophical people. Geminis are sensitive as well but use their high 
intelligence to counter anything that upsets them
  ==


  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


--

From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 1:18:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

Well June 21
Perhaps

From: Faisal Imtiaz

Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

>Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve.  I can switch to either 
side of an argument at will for fun.


Are you a Gemini by any chance ?



Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net




  From: ch...@wbmfg.com
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 12:14:54 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

  I don’t think anyone has ever been knocked off the list.  Shouted down at 
times.  Insulted.  But never knocked off.  

  Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve.  I can switch to either 
side of an argument at will for fun.

  With the exception of being a Clinton supporter.  Just cannot make myself 
go there.

  From: That One Guy /sarcasm

  Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:47 PM
  To: af@afmug.com

      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

  just fyi if jaime gets knocked off the list, im taking my toys and going 
home 

  in 4 years hes going to be showing us pictures of tecate and some 
insanely tasty looking crow anyway :-)


  On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't buy that... Respect your opinion but I don't buy that 63 
list...  

I have no confidence in Trump... I think he is bad for our country...  
I will not change my mind.  If you want to knock me off list... It's cool... I 
have always remained true to my beliefs.   My last post on this one...

On Jan 22, 2017 3:50 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

  Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were involved 
in some way with the JFK assassination?

  On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people 
are as dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the 
Clintons or had information that could harm the Clintons.

So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet 
heard of a

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[chuck]

It has to look like a hot chick, that’s all I’m sayin’ about that

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 11:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

I've also heard tell that Geminis are bisexual.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/23/2017 10:30 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

  From Wikipedia... 


  I think it is fairly accurate ! 


  :)



  ---

  Astrologers believe Geminis have a volatile temperament, that their strength 
however is their versatility, and that their versatility allows them to learn a 
little about everything and develop skills in many areas. Geminis are 
considered to hold mysteriously unique artistic and creative abilities unlike 
other signs. Often considered to be very intelligent individuals, they have a 
wide appreciation for the arts, philosophy, history and the natural sciences. 
They do not like boring people or routine procedures and therefore struggle to 
deal with authoritative figures. They are enlightened to talk about any subject 
which they find interesting and where they can stimulate their naturally 
intellectual personalities. Geminis are noted to be drastic and hasty yet very 
responsible and disciplined. They are considered to be the most misunderstood 
of all signs due to their dual personality expressed by the twins of their 
sign. Because of this, don't be surprised to often find Geminis in different 
moods and therefore mood swings can occur often for Geminis because of their 
high degree of mental processing and thinking. This makes them quite 
philosophical people. Geminis are sensitive as well but use their high 
intelligence to counter anything that upsets them
  ==


  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


--

From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 1:18:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

Well June 21
Perhaps

From: Faisal Imtiaz

Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

>Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve.  I can switch to either 
side of an argument at will for fun.


Are you a Gemini by any chance ?



Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net




  From: ch...@wbmfg.com
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 12:14:54 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

  I don’t think anyone has ever been knocked off the list.  Shouted down at 
times.  Insulted.  But never knocked off.  

  Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve.  I can switch to either 
side of an argument at will for fun.

  With the exception of being a Clinton supporter.  Just cannot make myself 
go there.

  From: That One Guy /sarcasm

  Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:47 PM
  To: af@afmug.com

      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

  just fyi if jaime gets knocked off the list, im taking my toys and going 
home 

  in 4 years hes going to be showing us pictures of tecate and some 
insanely tasty looking crow anyway :-)


  On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't buy that... Respect your opinion but I don't buy that 63 
list...  

I have no confidence in Trump... I think he is bad for our country...  
I will not change my mind.  If you want to knock me off list... It's cool... I 
have always remained true to my beliefs.   My last post on this one...

On Jan 22, 2017 3:50 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

  Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were involved 
in some way with the JFK assassination?

  On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people 
are as dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the 
Clintons or had information that could harm the Clintons.

So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet 
heard of anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.
  1.. Susan Coleman: 
  2.. Larry Guerrin: 
  3.. Kevin Ives  
  4.. Don Henry: 
  5.. Keith Coney: 
  6.. Keith McKaskle: 
  7.. Gregory Collins: 
  8.. Jeff Rhodes: 
   

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Bill Prince]

I've also heard tell that Geminis are bisexual.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/23/2017 10:30 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

From Wikipedia...

I think it is fairly accurate !

:)


---
Astrologers believe Geminis have a volatile temperament, that their 
strength however is their versatility, and that their versatility 
allows them to learn a little about everything and develop skills in 
many areas. Geminis are considered to hold mysteriously unique 
artistic and creative abilities unlike other signs. Often considered 
to be very intelligent individuals, they have a wide appreciation for 
the arts <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arts>, philosophy 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy>, history 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History> and the natural sciences 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_sciences>. They do not like 
boring people or routine procedures and therefore struggle to deal 
with authoritative figures. They are enlightened to talk about any 
subject which they find interesting and where they can stimulate their 
naturally intellectual personalities. Geminis are noted to be drastic 
and hasty yet very responsible and disciplined. They are considered to 
be the most misunderstood of all signs due to their dual personality 
expressed by the twins <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twins> of their 
sign. Because of this, don't be surprised to often find Geminis in 
different moods and therefore mood swings can occur often for Geminis 
because of their high degree of mental processing and thinking. This 
makes them quite philosophical people. Geminis are sensitive as well 
but use their high intelligence to counter anything that upsets them

==

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net



*From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, January 23, 2017 1:18:16 PM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

Well June 21
Perhaps
*From:* Faisal Imtiaz
*Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM
    *To:* af@afmug.com
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve.  I can switch to
either side of an argument at will for fun.
Are you a Gemini by any chance ?
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


*From: *ch...@wbmfg.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, January 23, 2017 12:14:54 PM
        *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

I don’t think anyone has ever been knocked off the list. 
Shouted down at times.  Insulted.  But never knocked off.

Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve.  I can switch
to either side of an argument at will for fun.
With the exception of being a Clinton supporter.  Just cannot
make myself go there.
*From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
*Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:47 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
just fyi if jaime gets knocked off the list, im taking my toys
and going home
in 4 years hes going to be showing us pictures of tecate and
some insanely tasty looking crow anyway :-)
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't buy that... Respect your opinion but I don't buy
that 63 list...
I have no confidence in Trump... I think he is bad for our
country...  I will not change my mind.  If you want to
knock me off list... It's cool... I have always remained
true to my beliefs.   My last post on this one...
On Jan 22, 2017 3:50 PM, "Josh Reynolds"
<j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who
were involved in some way with the JFK assassination?
On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown"
<ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable
fact, these 63 people are as dead as you can get
and all of them either spilled the beans on the
Clintons or had information that could harm the
Clintons.
So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of
Trump, I have not yet heard of anyone he had

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Faisal Imtiaz]

>From Wikipedia... 

I think it is fairly accurate ! 

:) 

--- 
Astrologers believe Geminis have a volatile temperament, that their strength 
however is their versatility, and that their versatility allows them to learn a 
little about everything and develop skills in many areas. Geminis are 
considered to hold mysteriously unique artistic and creative abilities unlike 
other signs. Often considered to be very intelligent individuals, they have a 
wide appreciation for the arts , philosophy , history and the natural sciences 
. They do not like boring people or routine procedures and therefore struggle 
to deal with authoritative figures. They are enlightened to talk about any 
subject which they find interesting and where they can stimulate their 
naturally intellectual personalities. Geminis are noted to be drastic and hasty 
yet very responsible and disciplined. They are considered to be the most 
misunderstood of all signs due to their dual personality expressed by the twins 
of their sign. Because of this, don't be surprised to often find Geminis in 
different moods and therefore mood swings can occur often for Geminis because 
of their high degree of mental processing and thinking. This makes them quite 
philosophical people. Geminis are sensitive as well but use their high 
intelligence to counter anything that upsets them 
== 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 1:18:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

> Well June 21
> Perhaps
> From: Faisal Imtiaz
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>>Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve. I can switch to either side of 
>>an
> >argument at will for fun.
> Are you a Gemini by any chance ?
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 12:14:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

>> I don’t think anyone has ever been knocked off the list. Shouted down at 
>> times.
>> Insulted. But never knocked off.
>> Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve. I can switch to either side 
>> of an
>> argument at will for fun.
>> With the exception of being a Clinton supporter. Just cannot make myself go
>> there.
>> From: That One Guy /sarcasm
>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:47 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>> just fyi if jaime gets knocked off the list, im taking my toys and going home
>> in 4 years hes going to be showing us pictures of tecate and some insanely 
>> tasty
>> looking crow anyway :-)
>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com >
>> wrote:

>>> I don't buy that... Respect your opinion but I don't buy that 63 list...
>>> I have no confidence in Trump... I think he is bad for our country... I 
>>> will not
>>> change my mind. If you want to knock me off list... It's cool... I have 
>>> always
>>> remained true to my beliefs. My last post on this one...
>>> On Jan 22, 2017 3:50 PM, "Josh Reynolds" < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote:

>>>> Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were involved in 
>>>> some way
>>>> with the JFK assassination?
>>>> On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote:

>>>>> One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are 
>>>>> as dead
>>>>> as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the Clintons 
>>>>> or had
>>>>> information that could harm the Clintons.
>>>>> So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet heard 
>>>>> of
>>>>> anyone he had whacked. Maybe he is just better at doing it.

>>>>> 1. Susan Coleman:
>>>>> 2. Larry Guerrin:
>>>>> 3. Kevin Ives
>>>>> 4. Don Henry:
>>>>> 5. Keith Coney:
>>>>> 6. Keith McKaskle:
>>>>> 7. Gregory Collins:
>>>>> 8. Jeff Rhodes:
>>>>> 9. James Milam:
>>>>> 

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[chuck]

Well June 21
Perhaps

From: Faisal Imtiaz 
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

>Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve.  I can switch to either side of 
>an argument at will for fun.


Are you a Gemini by any chance ?



Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net




  From: ch...@wbmfg.com
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 12:14:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

  I don’t think anyone has ever been knocked off the list.  Shouted down at 
times.  Insulted.  But never knocked off.   

  Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve.  I can switch to either side 
of an argument at will for fun. 

  With the exception of being a Clinton supporter.  Just cannot make myself go 
there. 

  From: That One Guy /sarcasm

  Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:47 PM
  To: af@afmug.com

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

  just fyi if jaime gets knocked off the list, im taking my toys and going home 

  in 4 years hes going to be showing us pictures of tecate and some insanely 
tasty looking crow anyway :-)


  On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

I don't buy that... Respect your opinion but I don't buy that 63 list...  

I have no confidence in Trump... I think he is bad for our country...  I 
will not change my mind.  If you want to knock me off list... It's cool... I 
have always remained true to my beliefs.   My last post on this one...

On Jan 22, 2017 3:50 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

  Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were involved in 
some way with the JFK assassination?

  On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are 
as dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the Clintons 
or had information that could harm the Clintons. 

So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet 
heard of anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it. 
  1.. Susan Coleman: 
  2.. Larry Guerrin: 
  3.. Kevin Ives  
  4.. Don Henry: 
  5.. Keith Coney: 
  6.. Keith McKaskle: 
  7.. Gregory Collins: 
  8.. Jeff Rhodes: 
  9.. James Milam: 
  10.. Richard Winters: 
  11.. Jordan Kettleson: 
  12.. Alan Standorf: 
  13.. Dennis Eisman: . 
  14.. Danny Casalaro: 
  15.. Victor Raiser: 
  16.. R. Montgomery Raiser: 
  17.. Paul Tully: 
  18.. Ian Spiro: 
  19.. Paula Gober: 
  20.. Jim Wilhite: 
  21.. Steve Willis, 
  22.. Robert Williams, 
  23.. Todd McKeahan 
  24.. Conway LeBleu:   
  25.. Sgt. Brian Haney, 
  26.. Sgt. Tim Sabel, 
  27.. Maj. William Barkley, 
  28.. Capt. Scott Reynolds: 
  29.. John Crawford: 
  30.. John Wilson: 
  31.. Paul Wilcher: 
  32.. Vincent Foster: 
  33.. Jon Parnell Walker: 
  34.. Stanley Heard 
  35.. Steven Dickson: 
  36.. Jerry Luther Parks: 
  37.. Ed Willey: 
  38.. Gandy Baugh: 
  39.. Herschell Friday: 
  40.. Ronald Rogers: 
  41.. Kathy Furguson: 
  42.. Bill Shelton: 
  43.. Stanley Huggins: 
  44.. Paul Olson: 
  45.. Calvin Walraven: 
  46.. Alan G. Whicher: 
  47.. Duane Garrett: 
  48.. Ron Brown:. 
  49.. Charles Meissner: 
  50.. William Colby: 
  51.. Admiral Jeremy Boorda: 
  52.. Lance Herndon: 
  53.. Neil Moody: 
  54.. Barbara Wise: 
  55.. Doug Adams: 
  56.. Mary C. Mahoney: 
  57.. Ronald Miller: 
  58.. Sandy Hume: 
  59.. Jim McDougal: 
  60.. Johnny Lawhon: 
  61.. Charles Wilbourne Miller: 
  62.. Carlos Ghigliotti: 
  63.. Tony Moser: 

From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
    To: af@afmug.com

    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some 
were legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's your right. 
I do not.

On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> 
wrote:

He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions. 
Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been mostly 
'spenders'


Jon 

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Faisal Imtiaz]

>Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve. I can switch to either side of 
>an argument at will for fun. 

Are you a Gemini by any chance ? 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 12:14:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

> I don’t think anyone has ever been knocked off the list. Shouted down at 
> times.
> Insulted. But never knocked off.
> Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve. I can switch to either side of 
> an
> argument at will for fun.
> With the exception of being a Clinton supporter. Just cannot make myself go
> there.

> From: That One Guy /sarcasm
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:47 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
> just fyi if jaime gets knocked off the list, im taking my toys and going home
> in 4 years hes going to be showing us pictures of tecate and some insanely 
> tasty
> looking crow anyway :-)
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Jaime Solorza < losguyswirel...@gmail.com >
> wrote:

>> I don't buy that... Respect your opinion but I don't buy that 63 list...
>> I have no confidence in Trump... I think he is bad for our country... I will 
>> not
>> change my mind. If you want to knock me off list... It's cool... I have 
>> always
>> remained true to my beliefs. My last post on this one...
>> On Jan 22, 2017 3:50 PM, "Josh Reynolds" < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote:

>>> Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were involved in some 
>>> way
>>> with the JFK assassination?
>>> On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote:

>>>> One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are as 
>>>> dead
>>>> as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the Clintons or 
>>>> had
>>>> information that could harm the Clintons.
>>>> So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet heard of
>>>> anyone he had whacked. Maybe he is just better at doing it.

>>>> 1. Susan Coleman:
>>>> 2. Larry Guerrin:
>>>> 3. Kevin Ives
>>>> 4. Don Henry:
>>>> 5. Keith Coney:
>>>> 6. Keith McKaskle:
>>>> 7. Gregory Collins:
>>>> 8. Jeff Rhodes:
>>>> 9. James Milam:
>>>> 10. Richard Winters:
>>>> 11. Jordan Kettleson:
>>>> 12. Alan Standorf:
>>>> 13. Dennis Eisman: .
>>>> 14. Danny Casalaro:
>>>> 15. Victor Raiser:
>>>> 16. R. Montgomery Raiser:
>>>> 17. Paul Tully:
>>>> 18. Ian Spiro:
>>>> 19. Paula Gober:
>>>> 20. Jim Wilhite:
>>>> 21. Steve Willis,
>>>> 22. Robert Williams,
>>>> 23. Todd McKeahan
>>>> 24. Conway LeBleu:
>>>> 25. Sgt. Brian Haney,
>>>> 26. Sgt. Tim Sabel,
>>>> 27. Maj. William Barkley,
>>>> 28. Capt. Scott Reynolds:
>>>> 29. John Crawford:
>>>> 30. John Wilson:
>>>> 31. Paul Wilcher:
>>>> 32. Vincent Foster:
>>>> 33. Jon Parnell Walker:
>>>> 34. Stanley Heard
>>>> 35. Steven Dickson:
>>>> 36. Jerry Luther Parks:
>>>> 37. Ed Willey:
>>>> 38. Gandy Baugh:
>>>> 39. Herschell Friday:
>>>> 40. Ronald Rogers:
>>>>     41. Kathy Furguson:
>>>> 42. Bill Shelton:
>>>> 43. Stanley Huggins:
>>>> 44. Paul Olson:
>>>> 45. Calvin Walraven:
>>>> 46. Alan G. Whicher:
>>>> 47. Duane Garrett:
>>>> 48. Ron Brown:.
>>>> 49. Charles Meissner:
>>>> 50. William Colby:
>>>> 51. Admiral Jeremy Boorda:
>>>> 52. Lance Herndon:
>>>> 53. Neil Moody:
>>>> 54. Barbara Wise:
>>>> 55. Doug Adams:
>>>> 56. Mary C. Mahoney:
>>>> 57. Ronald Miller:
>>>> 58. Sandy Hume:
>>>> 59. Jim McDougal:
>>>> 60. Johnny Lawhon:
>>>> 61. Charles Wilbourne Miller:
>>>> 62. Carlos Ghigliotti:
>>>> 63. Tony Moser:
>>>> From: Jos

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

well that escalate quickly

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
wrote:

> I think he was referring to another type of "knocked off"
>
> On Jan 23, 2017 11:14 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I don’t think anyone has ever been knocked off the list.  Shouted down at
>> times.  Insulted.  But never knocked off.
>>
>> Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve.  I can switch to either
>> side of an argument at will for fun.
>>
>> With the exception of being a Clinton supporter.  Just cannot make myself
>> go there.
>>
>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:47 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>>
>> just fyi if jaime gets knocked off the list, im taking my toys and going
>> home
>>
>> in 4 years hes going to be showing us pictures of tecate and some
>> insanely tasty looking crow anyway :-)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I don't buy that... Respect your opinion but I don't buy that 63
>>> list...
>>>
>>> I have no confidence in Trump... I think he is bad for our country...  I
>>> will not change my mind.  If you want to knock me off list... It's cool...
>>> I have always remained true to my beliefs.   My last post on this one...
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2017 3:50 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were involved in
>>> some way with the JFK assassination?
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are
>>> as dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the
>>> Clintons or had information that could harm the Clintons.
>>>
>>> So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet heard
>>> of anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.
>>>
>>>1. Susan Coleman:
>>>2. Larry Guerrin:
>>>3. Kevin Ives
>>>4. Don Henry:
>>>5. Keith Coney:
>>>6. Keith McKaskle:
>>>7. Gregory Collins:
>>>8. Jeff Rhodes:
>>>9. James Milam:
>>>10. Richard Winters:
>>>11. Jordan Kettleson:
>>>12. Alan Standorf:
>>>13. Dennis Eisman: .
>>>14. Danny Casalaro:
>>>15. Victor Raiser:
>>>16. R. Montgomery Raiser:
>>>17. Paul Tully:
>>>18. Ian Spiro:
>>>19. Paula Gober:
>>>20. Jim Wilhite:
>>>21. Steve Willis,
>>>22. Robert Williams,
>>>23. Todd McKeahan
>>>24. Conway LeBleu:
>>>25. Sgt. Brian Haney,
>>>26. Sgt. Tim Sabel,
>>>27. Maj. William Barkley,
>>>28. Capt. Scott Reynolds:
>>>29. John Crawford:
>>>30. John Wilson:
>>>31. Paul Wilcher:
>>>32. Vincent Foster:
>>>33. Jon Parnell Walker:
>>>34. Stanley Heard
>>>35. Steven Dickson:
>>>36. Jerry Luther Parks:
>>>37. Ed Willey:
>>>38. Gandy Baugh:
>>>39. Herschell Friday:
>>>40. Ronald Rogers:
>>>41. Kathy Furguson:
>>>42. Bill Shelton:
>>>43. Stanley Huggins:
>>>44. Paul Olson:
>>>45. Calvin Walraven:
>>>46. Alan G. Whicher:
>>>47. Duane Garrett:
>>>48. Ron Brown:.
>>>49. Charles Meissner:
>>>50. William Colby:
>>>51. Admiral Jeremy Boorda:
>>>52. Lance Herndon:
>>>53. Neil Moody:
>>>54. Barbara Wise:
>>>55. Doug Adams:
>>>56. Mary C. Mahoney:
>>>57. Ronald Miller:
>>>58. Sandy Hume:
>>>59. Jim McDougal:
>>>60. Johnny Lawhon:
>>>61. Charles Wilbourne Miller:
>>>62. Carlos Ghigliotti:
>>>63. Tony Moser:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Josh Reynolds
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>>>
>>> He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some
>>> were legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's your
>>> right

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Josh Reynolds]

I think he was referring to another type of "knocked off"

On Jan 23, 2017 11:14 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> I don’t think anyone has ever been knocked off the list.  Shouted down at
> times.  Insulted.  But never knocked off.
>
> Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve.  I can switch to either
> side of an argument at will for fun.
>
> With the exception of being a Clinton supporter.  Just cannot make myself
> go there.
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:47 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
> just fyi if jaime gets knocked off the list, im taking my toys and going
> home
>
> in 4 years hes going to be showing us pictures of tecate and some insanely
> tasty looking crow anyway :-)
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't buy that... Respect your opinion but I don't buy that 63 list...
>>
>> I have no confidence in Trump... I think he is bad for our country...  I
>> will not change my mind.  If you want to knock me off list... It's cool...
>> I have always remained true to my beliefs.   My last post on this one...
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2017 3:50 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>> Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were involved in
>> some way with the JFK assassination?
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are
>> as dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the
>> Clintons or had information that could harm the Clintons.
>>
>> So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet heard
>> of anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.
>>
>>1. Susan Coleman:
>>2. Larry Guerrin:
>>3. Kevin Ives
>>4. Don Henry:
>>5. Keith Coney:
>>6. Keith McKaskle:
>>7. Gregory Collins:
>>8. Jeff Rhodes:
>>9. James Milam:
>>10. Richard Winters:
>>11. Jordan Kettleson:
>>12. Alan Standorf:
>>13. Dennis Eisman: .
>>14. Danny Casalaro:
>>15. Victor Raiser:
>>16. R. Montgomery Raiser:
>>17. Paul Tully:
>>18. Ian Spiro:
>>19. Paula Gober:
>>20. Jim Wilhite:
>>21. Steve Willis,
>>22. Robert Williams,
>>23. Todd McKeahan
>>24. Conway LeBleu:
>>25. Sgt. Brian Haney,
>>26. Sgt. Tim Sabel,
>>27. Maj. William Barkley,
>>28. Capt. Scott Reynolds:
>>29. John Crawford:
>>30. John Wilson:
>>31. Paul Wilcher:
>>32. Vincent Foster:
>>33. Jon Parnell Walker:
>>34. Stanley Heard
>>35. Steven Dickson:
>>36. Jerry Luther Parks:
>>37. Ed Willey:
>>38. Gandy Baugh:
>>39. Herschell Friday:
>>40. Ronald Rogers:
>>41. Kathy Furguson:
>>42. Bill Shelton:
>>43. Stanley Huggins:
>>44. Paul Olson:
>>45. Calvin Walraven:
>>46. Alan G. Whicher:
>>47. Duane Garrett:
>>    48. Ron Brown:.
>>49. Charles Meissner:
>>50. William Colby:
>>51. Admiral Jeremy Boorda:
>>52. Lance Herndon:
>>53. Neil Moody:
>>54. Barbara Wise:
>>55. Doug Adams:
>>56. Mary C. Mahoney:
>>57. Ronald Miller:
>>58. Sandy Hume:
>>59. Jim McDougal:
>>60. Johnny Lawhon:
>>61. Charles Wilbourne Miller:
>>62. Carlos Ghigliotti:
>>63. Tony Moser:
>>
>>
>> From: Josh Reynolds
>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>>
>> He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some
>> were legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's your
>> right. I do not.
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions.
>> Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been mostly
>> 'spenders'
>>
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often
>> happen

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[chuck]

I don’t think anyone has ever been knocked off the list.  Shouted down at 
times.  Insulted.  But never knocked off.

Sometimes when I am trolling, I touch a nerve.  I can switch to either side of 
an argument at will for fun.  

With the exception of being a Clinton supporter.  Just cannot make myself go 
there.  

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

just fyi if jaime gets knocked off the list, im taking my toys and going home 

in 4 years hes going to be showing us pictures of tecate and some insanely 
tasty looking crow anyway :-)


On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

  I don't buy that... Respect your opinion but I don't buy that 63 list...  

  I have no confidence in Trump... I think he is bad for our country...  I will 
not change my mind.  If you want to knock me off list... It's cool... I have 
always remained true to my beliefs.   My last post on this one... 

  On Jan 22, 2017 3:50 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were involved in some 
way with the JFK assassination?

On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are 
as dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the Clintons 
or had information that could harm the Clintons.  

  So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet heard 
of anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.  
1.. Susan Coleman: 
2.. Larry Guerrin: 
3.. Kevin Ives  
4.. Don Henry: 
5.. Keith Coney: 
6.. Keith McKaskle: 
7.. Gregory Collins: 
8.. Jeff Rhodes: 
9.. James Milam: 
10.. Richard Winters: 
11.. Jordan Kettleson: 
12.. Alan Standorf: 
13.. Dennis Eisman: . 
14.. Danny Casalaro: 
15.. Victor Raiser: 
16.. R. Montgomery Raiser: 
17.. Paul Tully: 
18.. Ian Spiro: 
19.. Paula Gober: 
20.. Jim Wilhite: 
21.. Steve Willis, 
22.. Robert Williams, 
23.. Todd McKeahan 
24.. Conway LeBleu:   
25.. Sgt. Brian Haney, 
26.. Sgt. Tim Sabel, 
27.. Maj. William Barkley, 
28.. Capt. Scott Reynolds: 
29.. John Crawford: 
30.. John Wilson: 
31.. Paul Wilcher: 
32.. Vincent Foster: 
33.. Jon Parnell Walker: 
34.. Stanley Heard 
35.. Steven Dickson: 
36.. Jerry Luther Parks: 
37.. Ed Willey: 
38.. Gandy Baugh: 
39.. Herschell Friday: 
40.. Ronald Rogers: 
41.. Kathy Furguson: 
42.. Bill Shelton: 
43.. Stanley Huggins: 
44.. Paul Olson: 
45.. Calvin Walraven: 
46.. Alan G. Whicher: 
47.. Duane Garrett: 
48.. Ron Brown:. 
49.. Charles Meissner: 
50.. William Colby: 
51.. Admiral Jeremy Boorda: 
52.. Lance Herndon: 
53.. Neil Moody: 
54.. Barbara Wise: 
55.. Doug Adams: 
56.. Mary C. Mahoney: 
57.. Ronald Miller: 
58.. Sandy Hume: 
59.. Jim McDougal: 
60.. Johnny Lawhon: 
61.. Charles Wilbourne Miller: 
62.. Carlos Ghigliotti: 
63.. Tony Moser:  

  From: Josh Reynolds 
  Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

  He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some 
were legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's your right. 
I do not.

  On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:

  He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions. 
Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been mostly 
'spenders'


  Jon Langeler
  Michwave Technologies, Inc.


  On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:


  Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often 
happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.

  On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:

  Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if your 
looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible. 


  Jon Langeler
  Michwave Technologies, Inc.


  On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


  Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now 
Waiting for right time to do it comrades

  On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

but really, guys, you have to periodically check this

http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/

right now theres some guy making dying duck noises or something

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:51 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> I honestly cannot believe at all why any human being would think that at
> this point. I feel like we don't live not only in the same country, but on
> a completely different planet. And this is coming from someone who has
> never lived on either coast, and has spent time in the military as well as
> living a mostly rural life in Kentucky, Indiana, Arizona, Alaska, and
> Missouri.
>
> On Jan 22, 2017 8:47 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> just fyi if jaime gets knocked off the list, im taking my toys and going
>> home
>>
>> in 4 years hes going to be showing us pictures of tecate and some
>> insanely tasty looking crow anyway :-)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I don't buy that... Respect your opinion but I don't buy that 63 list...
>>>
>>> I have no confidence in Trump... I think he is bad for our country...  I
>>> will not change my mind.  If you want to knock me off list... It's cool...
>>> I have always remained true to my beliefs.   My last post on this one...
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2017 3:50 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were involved in
>>> some way with the JFK assassination?
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are
>>> as dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the
>>> Clintons or had information that could harm the Clintons.
>>>
>>> So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet heard
>>> of anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.
>>>
>>>1. Susan Coleman:
>>>2. Larry Guerrin:
>>>3. Kevin Ives
>>>4. Don Henry:
>>>5. Keith Coney:
>>>6. Keith McKaskle:
>>>7. Gregory Collins:
>>>8. Jeff Rhodes:
>>>9. James Milam:
>>>10. Richard Winters:
>>>11. Jordan Kettleson:
>>>12. Alan Standorf:
>>>13. Dennis Eisman: .
>>>14. Danny Casalaro:
>>>15. Victor Raiser:
>>>16. R. Montgomery Raiser:
>>>17. Paul Tully:
>>>18. Ian Spiro:
>>>19. Paula Gober:
>>>20. Jim Wilhite:
>>>21. Steve Willis,
>>>22. Robert Williams,
>>>23. Todd McKeahan
>>>24. Conway LeBleu:
>>>25. Sgt. Brian Haney,
>>>26. Sgt. Tim Sabel,
>>>27. Maj. William Barkley,
>>>28. Capt. Scott Reynolds:
>>>29. John Crawford:
>>>30. John Wilson:
>>>31. Paul Wilcher:
>>>32. Vincent Foster:
>>>33. Jon Parnell Walker:
>>>34. Stanley Heard
>>>35. Steven Dickson:
>>>36. Jerry Luther Parks:
>>>37. Ed Willey:
>>>38. Gandy Baugh:
>>>39. Herschell Friday:
>>>40. Ronald Rogers:
>>>41. Kathy Furguson:
>>>42. Bill Shelton:
>>>43. Stanley Huggins:
>>>44. Paul Olson:
>>>45. Calvin Walraven:
>>>46. Alan G. Whicher:
>>>47. Duane Garrett:
>>>48. Ron Brown:.
>>>49. Charles Meissner:
>>>50. William Colby:
>>>51. Admiral Jeremy Boorda:
>>>52. Lance Herndon:
>>>53. Neil Moody:
>>>54. Barbara Wise:
>>>55. Doug Adams:
>>>56. Mary C. Mahoney:
>>>57. Ronald Miller:
>>>58. Sandy Hume:
>>>59. Jim McDougal:
>>>60. Johnny Lawhon:
>>>61. Charles Wilbourne Miller:
>>>62. Carlos Ghigliotti:
>>>63. Tony Moser:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Josh Reynolds
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>>>
>>> He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some
>>> were legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's your
>>> right. I do not.
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon La

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Josh Reynolds]

I honestly cannot believe at all why any human being would think that at
this point. I feel like we don't live not only in the same country, but on
a completely different planet. And this is coming from someone who has
never lived on either coast, and has spent time in the military as well as
living a mostly rural life in Kentucky, Indiana, Arizona, Alaska, and
Missouri.

On Jan 22, 2017 8:47 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> just fyi if jaime gets knocked off the list, im taking my toys and going
> home
>
> in 4 years hes going to be showing us pictures of tecate and some insanely
> tasty looking crow anyway :-)
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't buy that... Respect your opinion but I don't buy that 63 list...
>>
>> I have no confidence in Trump... I think he is bad for our country...  I
>> will not change my mind.  If you want to knock me off list... It's cool...
>> I have always remained true to my beliefs.   My last post on this one...
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2017 3:50 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>> Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were involved in
>> some way with the JFK assassination?
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are
>> as dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the
>> Clintons or had information that could harm the Clintons.
>>
>> So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet heard
>> of anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.
>>
>>1. Susan Coleman:
>>2. Larry Guerrin:
>>3. Kevin Ives
>>4. Don Henry:
>>5. Keith Coney:
>>6. Keith McKaskle:
>>7. Gregory Collins:
>>8. Jeff Rhodes:
>>9. James Milam:
>>10. Richard Winters:
>>11. Jordan Kettleson:
>>12. Alan Standorf:
>>13. Dennis Eisman: .
>>14. Danny Casalaro:
>>15. Victor Raiser:
>>16. R. Montgomery Raiser:
>>17. Paul Tully:
>>18. Ian Spiro:
>>19. Paula Gober:
>>20. Jim Wilhite:
>>21. Steve Willis,
>>22. Robert Williams,
>>23. Todd McKeahan
>>24. Conway LeBleu:
>>25. Sgt. Brian Haney,
>>26. Sgt. Tim Sabel,
>>27. Maj. William Barkley,
>>28. Capt. Scott Reynolds:
>>29. John Crawford:
>>30. John Wilson:
>>31. Paul Wilcher:
>>32. Vincent Foster:
>>33. Jon Parnell Walker:
>>34. Stanley Heard
>>35. Steven Dickson:
>>36. Jerry Luther Parks:
>>37. Ed Willey:
>>38. Gandy Baugh:
>>39. Herschell Friday:
>>40. Ronald Rogers:
>>41. Kathy Furguson:
>>42. Bill Shelton:
>>43. Stanley Huggins:
>>44. Paul Olson:
>>45. Calvin Walraven:
>>46. Alan G. Whicher:
>>47. Duane Garrett:
>>48. Ron Brown:.
>>    49. Charles Meissner:
>>50. William Colby:
>>51. Admiral Jeremy Boorda:
>>52. Lance Herndon:
>>53. Neil Moody:
>>54. Barbara Wise:
>>55. Doug Adams:
>>56. Mary C. Mahoney:
>>57. Ronald Miller:
>>58. Sandy Hume:
>>59. Jim McDougal:
>>60. Johnny Lawhon:
>>61. Charles Wilbourne Miller:
>>62. Carlos Ghigliotti:
>>63. Tony Moser:
>>
>>
>> From: Josh Reynolds
>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>>
>> He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some
>> were legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's your
>> right. I do not.
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions.
>> Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been mostly
>> 'spenders'
>>
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often
>> happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
>> wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

just fyi if jaime gets knocked off the list, im taking my toys and going
home

in 4 years hes going to be showing us pictures of tecate and some insanely
tasty looking crow anyway :-)


On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I don't buy that... Respect your opinion but I don't buy that 63 list...
>
> I have no confidence in Trump... I think he is bad for our country...  I
> will not change my mind.  If you want to knock me off list... It's cool...
> I have always remained true to my beliefs.   My last post on this one...
>
> On Jan 22, 2017 3:50 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
> Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were involved in
> some way with the JFK assassination?
>
> On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are as
> dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the
> Clintons or had information that could harm the Clintons.
>
> So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet heard
> of anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.
>
>1. Susan Coleman:
>2. Larry Guerrin:
>3. Kevin Ives
>4. Don Henry:
>5. Keith Coney:
>6. Keith McKaskle:
>7. Gregory Collins:
>8. Jeff Rhodes:
>9. James Milam:
>10. Richard Winters:
>11. Jordan Kettleson:
>12. Alan Standorf:
>13. Dennis Eisman: .
>14. Danny Casalaro:
>15. Victor Raiser:
>16. R. Montgomery Raiser:
>17. Paul Tully:
>18. Ian Spiro:
>19. Paula Gober:
>20. Jim Wilhite:
>21. Steve Willis,
>22. Robert Williams,
>23. Todd McKeahan
>24. Conway LeBleu:
>25. Sgt. Brian Haney,
>26. Sgt. Tim Sabel,
>27. Maj. William Barkley,
>28. Capt. Scott Reynolds:
>29. John Crawford:
>30. John Wilson:
>31. Paul Wilcher:
>32. Vincent Foster:
>33. Jon Parnell Walker:
>34. Stanley Heard
>35. Steven Dickson:
>36. Jerry Luther Parks:
>37. Ed Willey:
>38. Gandy Baugh:
>39. Herschell Friday:
>40. Ronald Rogers:
>41. Kathy Furguson:
>42. Bill Shelton:
>43. Stanley Huggins:
>44. Paul Olson:
>45. Calvin Walraven:
>46. Alan G. Whicher:
>47. Duane Garrett:
>48. Ron Brown:.
>49. Charles Meissner:
>50. William Colby:
>51. Admiral Jeremy Boorda:
>52. Lance Herndon:
>53. Neil Moody:
>54. Barbara Wise:
>55. Doug Adams:
>56. Mary C. Mahoney:
>57. Ronald Miller:
>    58. Sandy Hume:
>59. Jim McDougal:
>60. Johnny Lawhon:
>61. Charles Wilbourne Miller:
>62. Carlos Ghigliotti:
>63. Tony Moser:
>
>
> From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
> He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some
> were legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's your
> right. I do not.
>
> On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:
>
> He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions.
> Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been mostly
> 'spenders'
>
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
>
> Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often
> happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.
>
> On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:
>
> Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if your
> looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible.
>
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now
> Waiting for right time to do it comrades
>
> On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
> https://streamable.com/md28v
>
> I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is not
> some kind of joke taken too far...
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..
> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpo
> st.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Bill Prince]

http://www.gocomics.com/candorville/2017/01/22


<http://www.gocomics.com/candorville/2017/01/22>

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 10:36 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
It amazes me that an adult at the top of the political pyramid is so 
immature to get butt hurt over the size of crowd that showed up.
Pretty sure D.C. is something like 80% black folk. Having the first 
black president is surely something to get stoked about if you are 
black, and if you live there, why not make the effort to go see the 
show.  I wonder if there are crowd size records for all the 
inaugurations.
I watched the young pope first two episodes.  This reminds me of the 
second episode where the pope gets pissed because someone hit in a 
laser pointer.

*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 11:22 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
I started reading this: http://www.justfacts.com/
Some of the statistics really rocked my socks.
-- Original Message --
From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 1/22/2017 1:05:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
Im pretty confident the next few days is setting the stage to 
effectively shutting down "media access". Im all for it in the 
current environment. Between press releases, Publicly accessible 
data, FOIA responses, live streamed events, and one on one interviews 
(and yes...twitter) the press really is the dialup internet method of 
getting information. We know more in real time then the press could 
ever package up and present. The current mindset of media in press 
conferences is that of militants (both sides of the media isle) and 
there is zero professionalism from either one. Neither really gives a 
damn what the answer is anyway, theyre going to report whatever their 
preconceived response was either way.

Question: Did we send B52 Bombers to hit an ISIS target?
Answer: Yes
CNN under Obama: Obama authorizes successful airstrike removing 100 
ISIS fighters in final days of his presidency. This act ensures that 
those who would commit terror will be addressed accordingly, even 
during the transition of power.
Breitbart under Obama: Obama, the snake furthers military conflict 
day before leaving office, leaving all Americans at risk during a 
tumultuous time of transition. Kills 100, ensuring a retaliatory 
response.

Had the same attack been authorized today:
CNN under Trump: MILITARY FIASCO: Trump bombs random targets. Top 
military officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, refuse to 
verify there were no civilian casualties, at least 100 confirmed 
dead. War crime charges possible?
Breitbart under Trump: God Emperor Trump authorized the removal of 
100 ISIS top leaders in his first act as Commander in Chief. Rumors 
of ISIS surrender. Barack Obama potentially one of the dead operatives.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm all for it.  I think that everyone is probably just impressed
by the first white house press briefing and the remarks at
Langley.  What an amazing public speaker this one is.  Have you
ever had a friend or friend's uncle or something who did too much
meth?  You know how they start out with one sentence and then
before you know it they have told fifteen other stories before
they ever get to the point...if they ever do???  We have four
years of that to look forward to.  Just watch the full speech at
the CIA, you will see what I mean.  Or don'tsave yourself the
pain.
On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds
<j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

Can we talk about politics yet? :P



--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Bill Prince]

And about 1/2 the presidents since 1900.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 4:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

No doubt.  So that makes him equivalent to JFK and Clinton, right?
*From:* Josh Reynolds
*Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:32 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
Trump cheated on his first wife for what became his second.
On Jan 22, 2017 4:57 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

Clintons had JFK knocked off too...
On a more serious note, Bill was very effective in suppressing and
containing his bimbo eruption of rapes etc.
Does anyone doubt he did those things too?
Who has raped more women?
Bill Cosby
Bill Clinton
Donald Trump
If we throw some kind of standard of morality at a president then
it better be applied equally to all of  them.   I seriously doubt
Jimmy Carter cheated on his wife.  How about JFK?
I have a standard I apply to business associates:  you cheat on
our spouse you will cheat me too.
*From:* Josh Reynolds
*Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:50 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were
involved in some way with the JFK assassination?
On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63
people are as dead as you can get and all of them either
spilled the beans on the Clintons or had information that
could harm the Clintons.
So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not
yet heard of anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better
at doing it.

 1. Susan Coleman:
 2. Larry Guerrin:
 3. Kevin Ives
 4. Don Henry:
 5. Keith Coney:
 6. Keith McKaskle:
 7. Gregory Collins:
 8. Jeff Rhodes:
 9. James Milam:
10. Richard Winters:
11. Jordan Kettleson:
12. Alan Standorf:
13. Dennis Eisman: .
14. Danny Casalaro:
15. Victor Raiser:
16. R. Montgomery Raiser:
17. Paul Tully:
18. Ian Spiro:
19. Paula Gober:
20. Jim Wilhite:
21. Steve Willis,
22. Robert Williams,
23. Todd McKeahan
24. Conway LeBleu:
25. Sgt. Brian Haney,
26. Sgt. Tim Sabel,
27. Maj. William Barkley,
28. Capt. Scott Reynolds:
29. John Crawford:
30. John Wilson:
31. Paul Wilcher:
32. Vincent Foster:
33. Jon Parnell Walker:
34. Stanley Heard
35. Steven Dickson:
36. Jerry Luther Parks:
37. Ed Willey:
38. Gandy Baugh:
39. Herschell Friday:
40. Ronald Rogers:
41. Kathy Furguson:
42. Bill Shelton:
43. Stanley Huggins:
44. Paul Olson:
45. Calvin Walraven:
46. Alan G. Whicher:
47. Duane Garrett:
48. Ron Brown:.
49. Charles Meissner:
50. William Colby:
51. Admiral Jeremy Boorda:
52. Lance Herndon:
53. Neil Moody:
54. Barbara Wise:
55. Doug Adams:
56. Mary C. Mahoney:
57. Ronald Miller:
58. Sandy Hume:
59. Jim McDougal:
60. Johnny Lawhon:
61. Charles Wilbourne Miller:
62. Carlos Ghigliotti:
63. Tony Moser:

From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his
money. Some were legal, some were not. You may consider that
smart, and that's your right. I do not.
On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler"
<jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:
He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good
decisions. Historically that's not been common in politics.
It's always been mostly 'spenders'
Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds
<j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact,
it often happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.
On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler"
<jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:
Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us.
But if your looking for miracles you might be better off
reading the bible.
Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope
now Waiting for right time to do it comrades

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Adam Moffett]

JFK, Dwight Eisenhower, Lyndon Johnson, and Bill Clinton.
That's 4 out of the last 10 presidents.
I guess 5 out of 11 since we can count Trump now.

Estimates of infidelity in the general population range from 20-70%.  
Huge variance because the data is necessarily based on surveys.  I'm not 
sure how you'd build a double blind experiment on this.  Might be fun to 
figure out a way :)


Assuming the real number is in the middle, then presidents who've 
cheated on their wife isn't much different from the general population.  
It is not a statistic we can be proud of as a nation, but it is what it 
is.  I'd be more interested in whether they have the decency to feel bad 
about it.






On a more serious note, Bill was very effective in suppressing and 
containing his bimbo eruption of rapes etc.

Does anyone doubt he did those things too?

Who has raped more women?
Bill Cosby
Bill Clinton
Donald Trump

If we throw some kind of standard of morality at a president then it 
better be applied equally to all of  them.   I seriously doubt Jimmy 
Carter cheated on his wife.  How about JFK?


I have a standard I apply to business associates:  you cheat on our 
spouse you will cheat me too.


From:Josh Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:50 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were involved in 
some way with the JFK assassination?


On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people 
are as dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on 
the Clintons or had information that could harm the Clintons.


So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet 
heard of anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.
Susan Coleman: Larry Guerrin: Kevin Ives  Don Henry: Keith Coney: 
Keith McKaskle: Gregory Collins: Jeff Rhodes: James Milam: Richard 
Winters: Jordan Kettleson: Alan Standorf: Dennis Eisman: . Danny 
Casalaro: Victor Raiser: R. Montgomery Raiser: Paul Tully: Ian Spiro: 
Paula Gober: Jim Wilhite: Steve Willis, Robert Williams, Todd McKeahan 
Conway LeBleu:   Sgt. Brian Haney, Sgt. Tim Sabel, Maj. William 
Barkley, Capt. Scott Reynolds: John Crawford: John Wilson: Paul 
Wilcher: Vincent Foster: Jon Parnell Walker: Stanley Heard Steven 
Dickson: Jerry Luther Parks: Ed Willey: Gandy Baugh: Herschell Friday: 
Ronald Rogers: Kathy Furguson: Bill Shelton: Stanley Huggins: Paul 
Olson: Calvin Walraven: Alan G. Whicher: Duane Garrett: Ron Brown:. 
Charles Meissner: William Colby: Admiral Jeremy Boorda: Lance Herndon: 
Neil Moody: Barbara Wise: Doug Adams: Mary C. Mahoney: Ronald Miller: 
Sandy Hume: Jim McDougal: Johnny Lawhon: Charles Wilbourne Miller: 
Carlos Ghigliotti: Tony Moser:


From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some 
were legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's 
your right. I do not.


On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> 
wrote:


He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions. 
Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been 
mostly 'spenders'



Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
wrote:



Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often 
happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.


On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> 
wrote:


Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if 
your looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible.



Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:



Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now 
Waiting for right time to do it comrades


On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
wrote:


https://streamable.com/md28v

I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is 
not some kind of joke taken too far...


On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:


Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751 
<https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751>


On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website. 
The bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half atte

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Chuck McCown]

No doubt.  So that makes him equivalent to JFK and Clinton, right?

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

Trump cheated on his first wife for what became his second.

On Jan 22, 2017 4:57 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Clintons had JFK knocked off too...

  On a more serious note, Bill was very effective in suppressing and containing 
his bimbo eruption of rapes etc.  
  Does anyone doubt he did those things too?

  Who has raped more women?
  Bill Cosby
  Bill Clinton
  Donald Trump

  If we throw some kind of standard of morality at a president then it better 
be applied equally to all of  them.   I seriously doubt Jimmy Carter cheated on 
his wife.  How about JFK?  

  I have a standard I apply to business associates:  you cheat on our spouse 
you will cheat me too.  

  From: Josh Reynolds 
  Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:50 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

  Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were involved in some 
way with the JFK assassination?

  On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are as 
dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the Clintons or 
had information that could harm the Clintons.  

So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet heard of 
anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.  
  1.. Susan Coleman: 
  2.. Larry Guerrin: 
  3.. Kevin Ives  
  4.. Don Henry: 
  5.. Keith Coney: 
  6.. Keith McKaskle: 
  7.. Gregory Collins: 
  8.. Jeff Rhodes: 
  9.. James Milam: 
  10.. Richard Winters: 
  11.. Jordan Kettleson: 
  12.. Alan Standorf: 
  13.. Dennis Eisman: . 
  14.. Danny Casalaro: 
  15.. Victor Raiser: 
  16.. R. Montgomery Raiser: 
  17.. Paul Tully: 
  18.. Ian Spiro: 
  19.. Paula Gober: 
  20.. Jim Wilhite: 
  21.. Steve Willis, 
  22.. Robert Williams, 
  23.. Todd McKeahan 
  24.. Conway LeBleu:   
  25.. Sgt. Brian Haney, 
  26.. Sgt. Tim Sabel, 
  27.. Maj. William Barkley, 
  28.. Capt. Scott Reynolds: 
  29.. John Crawford: 
  30.. John Wilson: 
  31.. Paul Wilcher: 
  32.. Vincent Foster: 
  33.. Jon Parnell Walker: 
  34.. Stanley Heard 
  35.. Steven Dickson: 
  36.. Jerry Luther Parks: 
  37.. Ed Willey: 
  38.. Gandy Baugh: 
  39.. Herschell Friday: 
  40.. Ronald Rogers: 
  41.. Kathy Furguson: 
  42.. Bill Shelton: 
  43.. Stanley Huggins: 
  44.. Paul Olson: 
  45.. Calvin Walraven: 
  46.. Alan G. Whicher: 
  47.. Duane Garrett: 
  48.. Ron Brown:. 
  49.. Charles Meissner: 
  50.. William Colby: 
  51.. Admiral Jeremy Boorda: 
  52.. Lance Herndon: 
  53.. Neil Moody: 
  54.. Barbara Wise: 
  55.. Doug Adams: 
  56.. Mary C. Mahoney: 
  57.. Ronald Miller: 
  58.. Sandy Hume: 
  59.. Jim McDougal: 
  60.. Johnny Lawhon: 
  61.. Charles Wilbourne Miller: 
  62.. Carlos Ghigliotti: 
  63.. Tony Moser:  

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some were 
legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's your right. I do 
not.

On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:

He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions. 
Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been mostly 
'spenders'


Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:


Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often 
happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.

On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:

Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if your 
looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible. 


Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now 
Waiting for right time to do it comrades

On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

https://streamable.com/md28v

I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is not 
some kind of joke taken too far...

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Waiting on Tweets

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Josh Reynolds]

Trump cheated on his first wife for what became his second.

On Jan 22, 2017 4:57 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Clintons had JFK knocked off too...
>
> On a more serious note, Bill was very effective in suppressing and
> containing his bimbo eruption of rapes etc.
> Does anyone doubt he did those things too?
>
> Who has raped more women?
> Bill Cosby
> Bill Clinton
> Donald Trump
>
> If we throw some kind of standard of morality at a president then it
> better be applied equally to all of  them.   I seriously doubt Jimmy Carter
> cheated on his wife.  How about JFK?
>
> I have a standard I apply to business associates:  you cheat on our spouse
> you will cheat me too.
>
> *From:* Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:50 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
> Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were involved in
> some way with the JFK assassination?
>
> On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are as
> dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the
> Clintons or had information that could harm the Clintons.
>
> So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet heard
> of anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.
>
>1. Susan Coleman:
>2. Larry Guerrin:
>3. Kevin Ives
>4. Don Henry:
>5. Keith Coney:
>6. Keith McKaskle:
>7. Gregory Collins:
>8. Jeff Rhodes:
>9. James Milam:
>10. Richard Winters:
>11. Jordan Kettleson:
>12. Alan Standorf:
>13. Dennis Eisman: .
>14. Danny Casalaro:
>15. Victor Raiser:
>16. R. Montgomery Raiser:
>17. Paul Tully:
>18. Ian Spiro:
>19. Paula Gober:
>20. Jim Wilhite:
>21. Steve Willis,
>22. Robert Williams,
>23. Todd McKeahan
>24. Conway LeBleu:
>25. Sgt. Brian Haney,
>26. Sgt. Tim Sabel,
>27. Maj. William Barkley,
>28. Capt. Scott Reynolds:
>29. John Crawford:
>30. John Wilson:
>31. Paul Wilcher:
>32. Vincent Foster:
>33. Jon Parnell Walker:
>34. Stanley Heard
>35. Steven Dickson:
>36. Jerry Luther Parks:
>37. Ed Willey:
>38. Gandy Baugh:
>39. Herschell Friday:
>40. Ronald Rogers:
>41. Kathy Furguson:
>42. Bill Shelton:
>43. Stanley Huggins:
>44. Paul Olson:
>45. Calvin Walraven:
>46. Alan G. Whicher:
>47. Duane Garrett:
>48. Ron Brown:.
>49. Charles Meissner:
>50. William Colby:
>51. Admiral Jeremy Boorda:
>52. Lance Herndon:
>53. Neil Moody:
>54. Barbara Wise:
>55. Doug Adams:
>    56. Mary C. Mahoney:
>57. Ronald Miller:
>58. Sandy Hume:
>59. Jim McDougal:
>60. Johnny Lawhon:
>61. Charles Wilbourne Miller:
>62. Carlos Ghigliotti:
>63. Tony Moser:
>
>
> From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
> He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some
> were legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's your
> right. I do not.
>
> On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:
>
> He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions.
> Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been mostly
> 'spenders'
>
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
>
> Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often
> happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.
>
> On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:
>
> Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if your
> looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible.
>
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now
> Waiting for right time to do it comrades
>
> On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
> https://streamable.com/md28v
>
> I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is not
> some kind of joke taken too far...
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza &l

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Bill Prince]

Me too.

Then I go to Breitbart for the real poop.

Err  Crap.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 3:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I only use Snopes when it supports my position.
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:54 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

All claptrap (not my description).

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 2:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

They’re really really good at it.
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:46 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

Witnesses? One? That many hit jobs would have a leak. Somewhere. None 
exist.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 2:44 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Fact Bill, they are dead and they all had harmed or could have 
harmed Bill or Hillary.
Just go through the list one by one. Some of it related to Waco.  
Many related to Whitewater or Monica.

Remember Vince Foster?
One or three could be a coincidence.  10 perhaps just a series of 
unfortunate and unrelated events, but 63 of them?  Just happenstance?

*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:38 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

Give. Me. A. Break.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 2:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people 
are as dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans 
on the Clintons or had information that could harm the Clintons.
So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet 
heard of anyone he had whacked. Maybe he is just better at doing it.


 1. Susan Coleman:
 2. Larry Guerrin:
 3. Kevin Ives
 4. Don Henry:
 5. Keith Coney:
 6. Keith McKaskle:
 7. Gregory Collins:
 8. Jeff Rhodes:
 9. James Milam:
10. Richard Winters:
11. Jordan Kettleson:
12. Alan Standorf:
13. Dennis Eisman: .
14. Danny Casalaro:
15. Victor Raiser:
16. R. Montgomery Raiser:
17. Paul Tully:
18. Ian Spiro:
19. Paula Gober:
20. Jim Wilhite:
21. Steve Willis,
22. Robert Williams,
23. Todd McKeahan
24. Conway LeBleu:
25. Sgt. Brian Haney,
26. Sgt. Tim Sabel,
27. Maj. William Barkley,
28. Capt. Scott Reynolds:
29. John Crawford:
30. John Wilson:
31. Paul Wilcher:
32. Vincent Foster:
33. Jon Parnell Walker:
34. Stanley Heard
35. Steven Dickson:
36. Jerry Luther Parks:
37. Ed Willey:
38. Gandy Baugh:
39. Herschell Friday:
40. Ronald Rogers:
41. Kathy Furguson:
42. Bill Shelton:
43. Stanley Huggins:
44. Paul Olson:
45. Calvin Walraven:
46. Alan G. Whicher:
47. Duane Garrett:
48. Ron Brown:.
49. Charles Meissner:
50. William Colby:
51. Admiral Jeremy Boorda:
52. Lance Herndon:
53. Neil Moody:
54. Barbara Wise:
55. Doug Adams:
56. Mary C. Mahoney:
57. Ronald Miller:
58. Sandy Hume:
59. Jim McDougal:
60. Johnny Lawhon:
61. Charles Wilbourne Miller:
62. Carlos Ghigliotti:
63. Tony Moser:

From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. 
Some were legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and 
that's your right. I do not.
On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" 
mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote:
He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good 
decisions. Historically that's not been common in politics. It's 
always been mostly 'spenders'

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds 
mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com wrote:
Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it 
often happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.
On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" 
mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote:
Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But 
if your looking for miracles you might be better off reading the 
bible.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope 
now Waiting for right time to do it comrades
On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" 
mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com wrote:

https://streamable.com/md28v
I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is 
not some kind of joke taken too far...
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:

Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751
On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house 
website. The bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half 
attended inauguration Women's March had

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Chuck McCown]

I only use Snopes when it supports my position.

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

All claptrap (not my description).

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 2:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  They’re really really good at it.  

  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:46 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

  Witnesses? One? That many hit jobs would have a leak. Somewhere. None exist.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 2:44 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Fact Bill, they are dead and they all had harmed or could have harmed Bill 
or Hillary.
Just go through the list one by one.  Some of it related to Waco.  Many 
related to Whitewater or Monica.
Remember Vince Foster?

One or three could be a coincidence.  10 perhaps just a series of 
unfortunate and unrelated events, but 63 of them?  Just happenstance?


From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

Give. Me. A. Break.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 2:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are 
as dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the Clintons 
or had information that could harm the Clintons.  

  So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet heard 
of anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.  
1.. Susan Coleman: 
2.. Larry Guerrin: 
3.. Kevin Ives  
4.. Don Henry: 
5.. Keith Coney: 
6.. Keith McKaskle: 
7.. Gregory Collins: 
8.. Jeff Rhodes: 
9.. James Milam: 
10.. Richard Winters: 
11.. Jordan Kettleson: 
12.. Alan Standorf: 
13.. Dennis Eisman: . 
14.. Danny Casalaro: 
15.. Victor Raiser: 
16.. R. Montgomery Raiser: 
17.. Paul Tully: 
18.. Ian Spiro: 
19.. Paula Gober: 
20.. Jim Wilhite: 
21.. Steve Willis, 
22.. Robert Williams, 
23.. Todd McKeahan 
24.. Conway LeBleu:   
25.. Sgt. Brian Haney, 
26.. Sgt. Tim Sabel, 
27.. Maj. William Barkley, 
28.. Capt. Scott Reynolds: 
29.. John Crawford: 
30.. John Wilson: 
31.. Paul Wilcher: 
32.. Vincent Foster: 
33.. Jon Parnell Walker: 
34.. Stanley Heard 
35.. Steven Dickson: 
36.. Jerry Luther Parks: 
37.. Ed Willey: 
38.. Gandy Baugh: 
39.. Herschell Friday: 
40.. Ronald Rogers: 
41.. Kathy Furguson: 
42.. Bill Shelton: 
43.. Stanley Huggins: 
44.. Paul Olson: 
45.. Calvin Walraven: 
46.. Alan G. Whicher: 
47.. Duane Garrett: 
48.. Ron Brown:. 
49.. Charles Meissner: 
50.. William Colby: 
51.. Admiral Jeremy Boorda: 
52.. Lance Herndon: 
53.. Neil Moody: 
54.. Barbara Wise: 
55.. Doug Adams: 
56.. Mary C. Mahoney: 
57.. Ronald Miller: 
58.. Sandy Hume: 
59.. Jim McDougal: 
60.. Johnny Lawhon: 
61.. Charles Wilbourne Miller: 
62.. Carlos Ghigliotti: 
63.. Tony Moser:  

  From: Josh Reynolds 
  Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

  He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some 
were legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's your right. 
I do not.

  On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net 
wrote:

  He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions. 
Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been mostly 
'spenders'


  Jon Langeler
  Michwave Technologies, Inc.


  On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com 
wrote:


  Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often 
happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.

  On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net 
wrote:

  Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if your 
looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible. 


  Jon Langeler
  Michwave Technologies, Inc.


  On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:


  Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now 
Waiting for right time to do it comrades

  On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com 
wrote:

  https://stream

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Chuck McCown]

Just pick a few at random and look them up.  They all died.  They all had ties 
to Clintons.  Many of the deaths are unusal and unnatural.  All of them had 
harmed or could have harmed the Clintons.  Those assertions are inarguable.  

Whether or not they are related and caused or directed is what is up for 
argument.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:57 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

I don't buy that... Respect your opinion but I don't buy that 63 list...  

I have no confidence in Trump... I think he is bad for our country...  I will 
not change my mind.  If you want to knock me off list... It's cool... I have 
always remained true to my beliefs.   My last post on this one... 

On Jan 22, 2017 3:50 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

  Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were involved in some 
way with the JFK assassination?

  On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are as 
dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the Clintons or 
had information that could harm the Clintons.  

So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet heard of 
anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.  
  1.. Susan Coleman: 
  2.. Larry Guerrin: 
  3.. Kevin Ives  
  4.. Don Henry: 
  5.. Keith Coney: 
  6.. Keith McKaskle: 
  7.. Gregory Collins: 
  8.. Jeff Rhodes: 
  9.. James Milam: 
  10.. Richard Winters: 
  11.. Jordan Kettleson: 
  12.. Alan Standorf: 
  13.. Dennis Eisman: . 
  14.. Danny Casalaro: 
  15.. Victor Raiser: 
  16.. R. Montgomery Raiser: 
  17.. Paul Tully: 
  18.. Ian Spiro: 
  19.. Paula Gober: 
  20.. Jim Wilhite: 
  21.. Steve Willis, 
  22.. Robert Williams, 
  23.. Todd McKeahan 
  24.. Conway LeBleu:   
  25.. Sgt. Brian Haney, 
  26.. Sgt. Tim Sabel, 
  27.. Maj. William Barkley, 
  28.. Capt. Scott Reynolds: 
  29.. John Crawford: 
  30.. John Wilson: 
  31.. Paul Wilcher: 
  32.. Vincent Foster: 
  33.. Jon Parnell Walker: 
  34.. Stanley Heard 
  35.. Steven Dickson: 
  36.. Jerry Luther Parks: 
  37.. Ed Willey: 
  38.. Gandy Baugh: 
  39.. Herschell Friday: 
  40.. Ronald Rogers: 
  41.. Kathy Furguson: 
  42.. Bill Shelton: 
  43.. Stanley Huggins: 
  44.. Paul Olson: 
  45.. Calvin Walraven: 
  46.. Alan G. Whicher: 
  47.. Duane Garrett: 
  48.. Ron Brown:. 
  49.. Charles Meissner: 
  50.. William Colby: 
  51.. Admiral Jeremy Boorda: 
  52.. Lance Herndon: 
  53.. Neil Moody: 
  54.. Barbara Wise: 
  55.. Doug Adams: 
  56.. Mary C. Mahoney: 
  57.. Ronald Miller: 
  58.. Sandy Hume: 
  59.. Jim McDougal: 
  60.. Johnny Lawhon: 
  61.. Charles Wilbourne Miller: 
  62.. Carlos Ghigliotti: 
  63.. Tony Moser:  

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some were 
legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's your right. I do 
not.

On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:

He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions. 
Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been mostly 
'spenders'


Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:


Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often 
happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.

On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:

Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if your 
looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible. 


Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now 
Waiting for right time to do it comrades

On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

https://streamable.com/md28v

I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is not 
some kind of joke taken too far...

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..  

https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751

On Jan 22, 2017 7:4

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Jaime Solorza]

I don't buy that... Respect your opinion but I don't buy that 63 list...

I have no confidence in Trump... I think he is bad for our country...  I
will not change my mind.  If you want to knock me off list... It's cool...
I have always remained true to my beliefs.   My last post on this one...

On Jan 22, 2017 3:50 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were involved in some
way with the JFK assassination?

On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are as
dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the
Clintons or had information that could harm the Clintons.

So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet heard of
anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.

   1. Susan Coleman:
   2. Larry Guerrin:
   3. Kevin Ives
   4. Don Henry:
   5. Keith Coney:
   6. Keith McKaskle:
   7. Gregory Collins:
   8. Jeff Rhodes:
   9. James Milam:
   10. Richard Winters:
   11. Jordan Kettleson:
   12. Alan Standorf:
   13. Dennis Eisman: .
   14. Danny Casalaro:
   15. Victor Raiser:
   16. R. Montgomery Raiser:
   17. Paul Tully:
   18. Ian Spiro:
   19. Paula Gober:
   20. Jim Wilhite:
   21. Steve Willis,
   22. Robert Williams,
   23. Todd McKeahan
   24. Conway LeBleu:
   25. Sgt. Brian Haney,
   26. Sgt. Tim Sabel,
   27. Maj. William Barkley,
   28. Capt. Scott Reynolds:
   29. John Crawford:
   30. John Wilson:
   31. Paul Wilcher:
   32. Vincent Foster:
   33. Jon Parnell Walker:
   34. Stanley Heard
   35. Steven Dickson:
   36. Jerry Luther Parks:
   37. Ed Willey:
   38. Gandy Baugh:
   39. Herschell Friday:
   40. Ronald Rogers:
   41. Kathy Furguson:
   42. Bill Shelton:
   43. Stanley Huggins:
   44. Paul Olson:
   45. Calvin Walraven:
   46. Alan G. Whicher:
   47. Duane Garrett:
   48. Ron Brown:.
   49. Charles Meissner:
   50. William Colby:
   51. Admiral Jeremy Boorda:
   52. Lance Herndon:
   53. Neil Moody:
   54. Barbara Wise:
   55. Doug Adams:
   56. Mary C. Mahoney:
   57. Ronald Miller:
   58. Sandy Hume:
   59. Jim McDougal:
   60. Johnny Lawhon:
   61. Charles Wilbourne Miller:
   62. Carlos Ghigliotti:
   63. Tony Moser:


From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some were
legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's your right. I
do not.

On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:

He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions.
Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been mostly
'spenders'


Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:


Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often
happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.

On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:

Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if your
looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible.


Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:


Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now
Waiting for right time to do it comrades

On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

https://streamable.com/md28v

I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is not
some kind of joke taken too far...

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpo
st.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751

On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website. The
bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half attended
inauguration Women's March had a lot more... His ego is bruised.  Let
me Trumpspeak... So sad.

On Jan 22, 2017 12:47 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

there is this gem now
http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:


Today we’ve great possibilities to spread news. But it is very difficult to
get the real information unbiased. Breitbart is known to be very biased
even here over the ocean. But it seems the „normal“ media in USA is biased,
too.

E.g. we never understood how Bush jun. got his second 

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Chuck McCown]

Clintons had JFK knocked off too...

On a more serious note, Bill was very effective in suppressing and containing 
his bimbo eruption of rapes etc.  
Does anyone doubt he did those things too?

Who has raped more women?
Bill Cosby
Bill Clinton
Donald Trump

If we throw some kind of standard of morality at a president then it better be 
applied equally to all of  them.   I seriously doubt Jimmy Carter cheated on 
his wife.  How about JFK?  

I have a standard I apply to business associates:  you cheat on our spouse you 
will cheat me too.  

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were involved in some way 
with the JFK assassination?

On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are as 
dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the Clintons or 
had information that could harm the Clintons.  

  So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet heard of 
anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.  
1.. Susan Coleman: 
2.. Larry Guerrin: 
3.. Kevin Ives  
4.. Don Henry: 
5.. Keith Coney: 
6.. Keith McKaskle: 
7.. Gregory Collins: 
8.. Jeff Rhodes: 
9.. James Milam: 
10.. Richard Winters: 
11.. Jordan Kettleson: 
12.. Alan Standorf: 
13.. Dennis Eisman: . 
14.. Danny Casalaro: 
15.. Victor Raiser: 
16.. R. Montgomery Raiser: 
17.. Paul Tully: 
18.. Ian Spiro: 
19.. Paula Gober: 
20.. Jim Wilhite: 
21.. Steve Willis, 
22.. Robert Williams, 
23.. Todd McKeahan 
24.. Conway LeBleu:   
25.. Sgt. Brian Haney, 
26.. Sgt. Tim Sabel, 
27.. Maj. William Barkley, 
28.. Capt. Scott Reynolds: 
29.. John Crawford: 
30.. John Wilson: 
31.. Paul Wilcher: 
32.. Vincent Foster: 
33.. Jon Parnell Walker: 
34.. Stanley Heard 
35.. Steven Dickson: 
36.. Jerry Luther Parks: 
37.. Ed Willey: 
38.. Gandy Baugh: 
39.. Herschell Friday: 
40.. Ronald Rogers: 
41.. Kathy Furguson: 
42.. Bill Shelton: 
43.. Stanley Huggins: 
44.. Paul Olson: 
45.. Calvin Walraven: 
46.. Alan G. Whicher: 
47.. Duane Garrett: 
48.. Ron Brown:. 
49.. Charles Meissner: 
50.. William Colby: 
51.. Admiral Jeremy Boorda: 
52.. Lance Herndon: 
53.. Neil Moody: 
54.. Barbara Wise: 
55.. Doug Adams: 
56.. Mary C. Mahoney: 
57.. Ronald Miller: 
58.. Sandy Hume: 
59.. Jim McDougal: 
60.. Johnny Lawhon: 
61.. Charles Wilbourne Miller: 
62.. Carlos Ghigliotti: 
63.. Tony Moser:  

  From: Josh Reynolds 
  Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

  He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some were 
legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's your right. I do 
not.

  On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:

  He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions. 
Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been mostly 
'spenders'


  Jon Langeler
  Michwave Technologies, Inc.


  On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:


  Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often 
happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.

  On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:

  Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if your 
looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible. 


  Jon Langeler
  Michwave Technologies, Inc.


  On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:


  Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now Waiting 
for right time to do it comrades

  On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

  https://streamable.com/md28v

  I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is not some 
kind of joke taken too far...

  On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

  Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..  
  
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751

  On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website. The 
bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half attended inauguration 
Women's March had a lot more... His ego is bruised.  Let me Trumpspeak... So 
sad. 

  On Jan 22, 2017 12:4

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Bill Prince]

All claptrap (not my description).

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 2:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

They’re really really good at it.
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:46 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

Witnesses? One? That many hit jobs would have a leak. Somewhere. None 
exist.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 2:44 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Fact Bill, they are dead and they all had harmed or could have harmed 
Bill or Hillary.
Just go through the list one by one.  Some of it related to Waco.  
Many related to Whitewater or Monica.

Remember Vince Foster?
One or three could be a coincidence.  10 perhaps just a series of 
unfortunate and unrelated events, but 63 of them?  Just happenstance?

*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:38 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

Give. Me. A. Break.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 2:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people 
are as dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans 
on the Clintons or had information that could harm the Clintons.
So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet 
heard of anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.


 1. Susan Coleman:
 2. Larry Guerrin:
 3. Kevin Ives
 4. Don Henry:
 5. Keith Coney:
 6. Keith McKaskle:
 7. Gregory Collins:
 8. Jeff Rhodes:
 9. James Milam:
10. Richard Winters:
11. Jordan Kettleson:
12. Alan Standorf:
13. Dennis Eisman: .
14. Danny Casalaro:
15. Victor Raiser:
16. R. Montgomery Raiser:
17. Paul Tully:
18. Ian Spiro:
19. Paula Gober:
20. Jim Wilhite:
21. Steve Willis,
22. Robert Williams,
23. Todd McKeahan
24. Conway LeBleu:
25. Sgt. Brian Haney,
26. Sgt. Tim Sabel,
27. Maj. William Barkley,
28. Capt. Scott Reynolds:
29. John Crawford:
30. John Wilson:
31. Paul Wilcher:
32. Vincent Foster:
33. Jon Parnell Walker:
34. Stanley Heard
35. Steven Dickson:
36. Jerry Luther Parks:
37. Ed Willey:
38. Gandy Baugh:
39. Herschell Friday:
40. Ronald Rogers:
41. Kathy Furguson:
42. Bill Shelton:
43. Stanley Huggins:
44. Paul Olson:
45. Calvin Walraven:
46. Alan G. Whicher:
47. Duane Garrett:
48. Ron Brown:.
49. Charles Meissner:
50. William Colby:
51. Admiral Jeremy Boorda:
52. Lance Herndon:
53. Neil Moody:
54. Barbara Wise:
55. Doug Adams:
56. Mary C. Mahoney:
57. Ronald Miller:
58. Sandy Hume:
59. Jim McDougal:
60. Johnny Lawhon:
61. Charles Wilbourne Miller:
62. Carlos Ghigliotti:
63. Tony Moser:

From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. 
Some were legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and 
that's your right. I do not.
On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" 
mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote:
He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good 
decisions. Historically that's not been common in politics. It's 
always been mostly 'spenders'

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds 
mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com wrote:
Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it 
often happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.
On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" 
mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote:
Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if 
your looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
Empty promises just like his brain. But it's okay to grope now 
Waiting for right time to do it comrades
On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" 
mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com wrote:

https://streamable.com/md28v
I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is 
not some kind of joke taken too far...
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:

Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751
On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house 
website. The bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half 
attended inauguration Women's March had a lot more... His ego is 
bruised.  Let me Trumpspeak... So sad.
On Jan 22, 2017 12:47 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

there is this gem now
http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Engl

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Josh Reynolds]

Have you ever looked at the list of people killed who were involved in some
way with the JFK assassination?

On Jan 22, 2017 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are as
dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the
Clintons or had information that could harm the Clintons.

So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet heard of
anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.

   1. Susan Coleman:
   2. Larry Guerrin:
   3. Kevin Ives
   4. Don Henry:
   5. Keith Coney:
   6. Keith McKaskle:
   7. Gregory Collins:
   8. Jeff Rhodes:
   9. James Milam:
   10. Richard Winters:
   11. Jordan Kettleson:
   12. Alan Standorf:
   13. Dennis Eisman: .
   14. Danny Casalaro:
   15. Victor Raiser:
   16. R. Montgomery Raiser:
   17. Paul Tully:
   18. Ian Spiro:
   19. Paula Gober:
   20. Jim Wilhite:
   21. Steve Willis,
   22. Robert Williams,
   23. Todd McKeahan
   24. Conway LeBleu:
   25. Sgt. Brian Haney,
   26. Sgt. Tim Sabel,
   27. Maj. William Barkley,
   28. Capt. Scott Reynolds:
   29. John Crawford:
   30. John Wilson:
   31. Paul Wilcher:
   32. Vincent Foster:
   33. Jon Parnell Walker:
   34. Stanley Heard
   35. Steven Dickson:
   36. Jerry Luther Parks:
   37. Ed Willey:
   38. Gandy Baugh:
   39. Herschell Friday:
   40. Ronald Rogers:
   41. Kathy Furguson:
   42. Bill Shelton:
   43. Stanley Huggins:
   44. Paul Olson:
   45. Calvin Walraven:
   46. Alan G. Whicher:
   47. Duane Garrett:
   48. Ron Brown:.
   49. Charles Meissner:
   50. William Colby:
   51. Admiral Jeremy Boorda:
   52. Lance Herndon:
   53. Neil Moody:
   54. Barbara Wise:
   55. Doug Adams:
   56. Mary C. Mahoney:
   57. Ronald Miller:
   58. Sandy Hume:
   59. Jim McDougal:
   60. Johnny Lawhon:
   61. Charles Wilbourne Miller:
   62. Carlos Ghigliotti:
   63. Tony Moser:


From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some were
legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's your right. I
do not.

On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:

He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions.
Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been mostly
'spenders'


Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:


Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often
happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.

On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:

Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if your
looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible.


Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:


Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now
Waiting for right time to do it comrades

On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

https://streamable.com/md28v

I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is not
some kind of joke taken too far...

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.
huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751

On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website. The
bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half attended
inauguration Women's March had a lot more... His ego is bruised.  Let
me Trumpspeak... So sad.

On Jan 22, 2017 12:47 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

there is this gem now
http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:


Today we’ve great possibilities to spread news. But it is very difficult to
get the real information unbiased. Breitbart is known to be very biased
even here over the ocean. But it seems the „normal“ media in USA is biased,
too.

E.g. we never understood how Bush jun. got his second election where it was
clear he started a war based on wrong information. This is unthinkable
here. It would be the one point which would dominate the discussion and
would make him unvotable here. Your media seemed to move the discussion
away from this fact and relativated his guilty to make him votable.

Another example is the Hillary Email discussion. This is a topic which is
minor

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Chuck McCown]

They’re really really good at it.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

Witnesses? One? That many hit jobs would have a leak. Somewhere. None exist.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 2:44 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  Fact Bill, they are dead and they all had harmed or could have harmed Bill or 
Hillary.
  Just go through the list one by one.  Some of it related to Waco.  Many 
related to Whitewater or Monica.
  Remember Vince Foster?

  One or three could be a coincidence.  10 perhaps just a series of unfortunate 
and unrelated events, but 63 of them?  Just happenstance?


  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:38 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

  Give. Me. A. Break.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 2:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are as 
dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the Clintons or 
had information that could harm the Clintons.  

So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet heard of 
anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.  
  1.. Susan Coleman: 
  2.. Larry Guerrin: 
  3.. Kevin Ives  
  4.. Don Henry: 
  5.. Keith Coney: 
  6.. Keith McKaskle: 
  7.. Gregory Collins: 
  8.. Jeff Rhodes: 
  9.. James Milam: 
  10.. Richard Winters: 
  11.. Jordan Kettleson: 
  12.. Alan Standorf: 
  13.. Dennis Eisman: . 
  14.. Danny Casalaro: 
  15.. Victor Raiser: 
  16.. R. Montgomery Raiser: 
  17.. Paul Tully: 
  18.. Ian Spiro: 
  19.. Paula Gober: 
  20.. Jim Wilhite: 
  21.. Steve Willis, 
  22.. Robert Williams, 
  23.. Todd McKeahan 
  24.. Conway LeBleu:   
  25.. Sgt. Brian Haney, 
  26.. Sgt. Tim Sabel, 
  27.. Maj. William Barkley, 
  28.. Capt. Scott Reynolds: 
  29.. John Crawford: 
  30.. John Wilson: 
  31.. Paul Wilcher: 
  32.. Vincent Foster: 
  33.. Jon Parnell Walker: 
  34.. Stanley Heard 
  35.. Steven Dickson: 
  36.. Jerry Luther Parks: 
  37.. Ed Willey: 
  38.. Gandy Baugh: 
  39.. Herschell Friday: 
  40.. Ronald Rogers: 
  41.. Kathy Furguson: 
  42.. Bill Shelton: 
  43.. Stanley Huggins: 
  44.. Paul Olson: 
  45.. Calvin Walraven: 
  46.. Alan G. Whicher: 
  47.. Duane Garrett: 
  48.. Ron Brown:. 
  49.. Charles Meissner: 
  50.. William Colby: 
  51.. Admiral Jeremy Boorda: 
  52.. Lance Herndon: 
  53.. Neil Moody: 
  54.. Barbara Wise: 
  55.. Doug Adams: 
  56.. Mary C. Mahoney: 
  57.. Ronald Miller: 
  58.. Sandy Hume: 
  59.. Jim McDougal: 
  60.. Johnny Lawhon: 
  61.. Charles Wilbourne Miller: 
  62.. Carlos Ghigliotti: 
  63.. Tony Moser:  

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some were 
legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's your right. I do 
not.

On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net 
wrote:

He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions. 
Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been mostly 
'spenders'


Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com 
wrote:


Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often 
happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.

On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net 
wrote:

Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if your 
looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible. 


Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now 
Waiting for right time to do it comrades

On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com wrote:

https://streamable.com/md28v

I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is not 
some kind of joke taken too far...

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:

Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..  

https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751

On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hey but you can 

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Bill Prince]

Witnesses? One? That many hit jobs would have a leak. Somewhere. None exist.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 2:44 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Fact Bill, they are dead and they all had harmed or could have harmed 
Bill or Hillary.
Just go through the list one by one.  Some of it related to Waco.  
Many related to Whitewater or Monica.

Remember Vince Foster?
One or three could be a coincidence.  10 perhaps just a series of 
unfortunate and unrelated events, but 63 of them? Just happenstance?

*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:38 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

Give. Me. A. Break.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 2:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people 
are as dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans 
on the Clintons or had information that could harm the Clintons.
So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet 
heard of anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.


 1. Susan Coleman:
 2. Larry Guerrin:
 3. Kevin Ives
 4. Don Henry:
 5. Keith Coney:
 6. Keith McKaskle:
 7. Gregory Collins:
 8. Jeff Rhodes:
 9. James Milam:
10. Richard Winters:
11. Jordan Kettleson:
12. Alan Standorf:
13. Dennis Eisman: .
14. Danny Casalaro:
15. Victor Raiser:
16. R. Montgomery Raiser:
17. Paul Tully:
18. Ian Spiro:
19. Paula Gober:
20. Jim Wilhite:
21. Steve Willis,
22. Robert Williams,
23. Todd McKeahan
24. Conway LeBleu:
25. Sgt. Brian Haney,
26. Sgt. Tim Sabel,
27. Maj. William Barkley,
28. Capt. Scott Reynolds:
29. John Crawford:
30. John Wilson:
31. Paul Wilcher:
32. Vincent Foster:
33. Jon Parnell Walker:
34. Stanley Heard
35. Steven Dickson:
36. Jerry Luther Parks:
37. Ed Willey:
38. Gandy Baugh:
39. Herschell Friday:
40. Ronald Rogers:
41. Kathy Furguson:
42. Bill Shelton:
43. Stanley Huggins:
44. Paul Olson:
45. Calvin Walraven:
46. Alan G. Whicher:
47. Duane Garrett:
48. Ron Brown:.
49. Charles Meissner:
50. William Colby:
51. Admiral Jeremy Boorda:
52. Lance Herndon:
53. Neil Moody:
54. Barbara Wise:
55. Doug Adams:
56. Mary C. Mahoney:
57. Ronald Miller:
58. Sandy Hume:
59. Jim McDougal:
60. Johnny Lawhon:
61. Charles Wilbourne Miller:
62. Carlos Ghigliotti:
63. Tony Moser:

From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. 
Some were legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and 
that's your right. I do not.
On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" 
mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote:
He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions. 
Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been 
mostly 'spenders'

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds 
mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com wrote:
Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it 
often happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.
On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" 
mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote:
Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if 
your looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now 
Waiting for right time to do it comrades
On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com 
wrote:

https://streamable.com/md28v
I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is 
not some kind of joke taken too far...
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:

Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751
On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website. 
The bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half attended 
inauguration Women's March had a lot more... His ego is bruised.  
Let me Trumpspeak... So sad.
On Jan 22, 2017 12:47 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

there is this gem now
http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
mailto:s...@genias.net wrote:
Today we’ve great possibilities to spread news. But it is very 
difficult to get the real information unbiased. Breitbart is known to 
be very biased even here over the ocean. But it seems the „normal“ 
media in USA is biased, too.
E.g. we never understood how Bush jun. got his second election w

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Chuck McCown]

Fact Bill, they are dead and they all had harmed or could have harmed Bill or 
Hillary.
Just go through the list one by one.  Some of it related to Waco.  Many related 
to Whitewater or Monica.
Remember Vince Foster?

One or three could be a coincidence.  10 perhaps just a series of unfortunate 
and unrelated events, but 63 of them?  Just happenstance?


From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

Give. Me. A. Break.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 2:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are as 
dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the Clintons or 
had information that could harm the Clintons.  

  So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet heard of 
anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.  
1.. Susan Coleman: 
2.. Larry Guerrin: 
3.. Kevin Ives  
4.. Don Henry: 
5.. Keith Coney: 
6.. Keith McKaskle: 
7.. Gregory Collins: 
8.. Jeff Rhodes: 
9.. James Milam: 
10.. Richard Winters: 
11.. Jordan Kettleson: 
12.. Alan Standorf: 
13.. Dennis Eisman: . 
14.. Danny Casalaro: 
15.. Victor Raiser: 
16.. R. Montgomery Raiser: 
17.. Paul Tully: 
18.. Ian Spiro: 
19.. Paula Gober: 
20.. Jim Wilhite: 
21.. Steve Willis, 
22.. Robert Williams, 
23.. Todd McKeahan 
24.. Conway LeBleu:   
25.. Sgt. Brian Haney, 
26.. Sgt. Tim Sabel, 
27.. Maj. William Barkley, 
28.. Capt. Scott Reynolds: 
29.. John Crawford: 
30.. John Wilson: 
31.. Paul Wilcher: 
32.. Vincent Foster: 
33.. Jon Parnell Walker: 
34.. Stanley Heard 
35.. Steven Dickson: 
36.. Jerry Luther Parks: 
37.. Ed Willey: 
38.. Gandy Baugh: 
39.. Herschell Friday: 
40.. Ronald Rogers: 
41.. Kathy Furguson: 
42.. Bill Shelton: 
43.. Stanley Huggins: 
44.. Paul Olson: 
45.. Calvin Walraven: 
46.. Alan G. Whicher: 
47.. Duane Garrett: 
48.. Ron Brown:. 
49.. Charles Meissner: 
50.. William Colby: 
51.. Admiral Jeremy Boorda: 
52.. Lance Herndon: 
53.. Neil Moody: 
54.. Barbara Wise: 
55.. Doug Adams: 
56.. Mary C. Mahoney: 
57.. Ronald Miller: 
58.. Sandy Hume: 
59.. Jim McDougal: 
60.. Johnny Lawhon: 
61.. Charles Wilbourne Miller: 
62.. Carlos Ghigliotti: 
63.. Tony Moser:  

  From: Josh Reynolds 
  Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

  He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some were 
legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's your right. I do 
not.

  On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net 
wrote:

  He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions. 
Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been mostly 
'spenders'


  Jon Langeler
  Michwave Technologies, Inc.


  On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com wrote:


  Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often 
happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.

  On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net 
wrote:

  Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if your 
looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible. 


  Jon Langeler
  Michwave Technologies, Inc.


  On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
wrote:


  Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now Waiting 
for right time to do it comrades

  On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com wrote:

  https://streamable.com/md28v

  I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is not some 
kind of joke taken too far...

  On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:

  Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..  
  
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751

  On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website. The 
bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half attended inauguration 
Women's March had a lot more... His ego is bruised.  Let me Trumpspeak... So 
sad. 

  On Jan 22, 2017 12:47 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

  there is this gem now 
  http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
  24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy

  On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt mailto:s...@genias.n

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Bill Prince]

Give. Me. A. Break.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 2:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people 
are as dead as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on 
the Clintons or had information that could harm the Clintons.
So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet 
heard of anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.


 1. Susan Coleman:
 2. Larry Guerrin:
 3. Kevin Ives
 4. Don Henry:
 5. Keith Coney:
 6. Keith McKaskle:
 7. Gregory Collins:
 8. Jeff Rhodes:
 9. James Milam:
10. Richard Winters:
11. Jordan Kettleson:
12. Alan Standorf:
13. Dennis Eisman: .
14. Danny Casalaro:
15. Victor Raiser:
16. R. Montgomery Raiser:
17. Paul Tully:
18. Ian Spiro:
19. Paula Gober:
20. Jim Wilhite:
21. Steve Willis,
22. Robert Williams,
23. Todd McKeahan
24. Conway LeBleu:
25. Sgt. Brian Haney,
26. Sgt. Tim Sabel,
27. Maj. William Barkley,
28. Capt. Scott Reynolds:
29. John Crawford:
30. John Wilson:
31. Paul Wilcher:
32. Vincent Foster:
33. Jon Parnell Walker:
34. Stanley Heard
35. Steven Dickson:
36. Jerry Luther Parks:
37. Ed Willey:
38. Gandy Baugh:
39. Herschell Friday:
40. Ronald Rogers:
41. Kathy Furguson:
42. Bill Shelton:
43. Stanley Huggins:
44. Paul Olson:
45. Calvin Walraven:
46. Alan G. Whicher:
47. Duane Garrett:
48. Ron Brown:.
49. Charles Meissner:
50. William Colby:
51. Admiral Jeremy Boorda:
52. Lance Herndon:
53. Neil Moody:
54. Barbara Wise:
55. Doug Adams:
56. Mary C. Mahoney:
57. Ronald Miller:
58. Sandy Hume:
59. Jim McDougal:
60. Johnny Lawhon:
61. Charles Wilbourne Miller:
62. Carlos Ghigliotti:
63. Tony Moser:

From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some 
were legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's 
your right. I do not.

On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:
He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions. 
Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been 
mostly 'spenders'

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often 
happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.

On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:
Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if 
your looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now 
Waiting for right time to do it comrades

On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
https://streamable.com/md28v
I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is 
not some kind of joke taken too far...
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751
On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website. 
The bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half attended 
inauguration Women's March had a lot more... His ego is bruised.  
Let me Trumpspeak... So sad.
On Jan 22, 2017 12:47 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

there is this gem now
http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
Today we’ve great possibilities to spread news. But it is very 
difficult to get the real information unbiased. Breitbart is known to 
be very biased even here over the ocean. But it seems the „normal“ 
media in USA is biased, too.
E.g. we never understood how Bush jun. got his second election where 
it was clear he started a war based on wrong information. This is 
unthinkable here. It would be the one point which would dominate the 
discussion and would make him unvotable here. Your media seemed to 
move the discussion away from this fact and relativated his guilty to 
make him votable.
Another example is the Hillary Email discussion. This is a topic which 
is minor at best but was discussed the whole time.
I guess it is possible Trump kills a person in TV and get reelected if 
media helps him. Unthinkable? But killing one person is much less a 
problem than starting a war where thousands are killed. Breitbart 
wo

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Chuck McCown]

One thing is for certain, absolute inarguable fact, these 63 people are as dead 
as you can get and all of them either spilled the beans on the Clintons or had 
information that could harm the Clintons.  

So, if you want to talk ethics and morals of Trump, I have not yet heard of 
anyone he had whacked.  Maybe he is just better at doing it.  
  1.. Susan Coleman: 
  2.. Larry Guerrin: 
  3.. Kevin Ives  
  4.. Don Henry: 
  5.. Keith Coney: 
  6.. Keith McKaskle: 
  7.. Gregory Collins: 
  8.. Jeff Rhodes: 
  9.. James Milam: 
  10.. Richard Winters: 
  11.. Jordan Kettleson: 
  12.. Alan Standorf: 
  13.. Dennis Eisman: . 
  14.. Danny Casalaro: 
  15.. Victor Raiser: 
  16.. R. Montgomery Raiser: 
  17.. Paul Tully: 
  18.. Ian Spiro: 
  19.. Paula Gober: 
  20.. Jim Wilhite: 
  21.. Steve Willis, 
  22.. Robert Williams, 
  23.. Todd McKeahan 
  24.. Conway LeBleu:   
  25.. Sgt. Brian Haney, 
  26.. Sgt. Tim Sabel, 
  27.. Maj. William Barkley, 
  28.. Capt. Scott Reynolds: 
  29.. John Crawford: 
  30.. John Wilson: 
  31.. Paul Wilcher: 
  32.. Vincent Foster: 
  33.. Jon Parnell Walker: 
  34.. Stanley Heard 
  35.. Steven Dickson: 
  36.. Jerry Luther Parks: 
  37.. Ed Willey: 
  38.. Gandy Baugh: 
  39.. Herschell Friday: 
  40.. Ronald Rogers: 
  41.. Kathy Furguson: 
  42.. Bill Shelton: 
  43.. Stanley Huggins: 
  44.. Paul Olson: 
  45.. Calvin Walraven: 
  46.. Alan G. Whicher: 
  47.. Duane Garrett: 
  48.. Ron Brown:. 
  49.. Charles Meissner: 
  50.. William Colby: 
  51.. Admiral Jeremy Boorda: 
  52.. Lance Herndon: 
  53.. Neil Moody: 
  54.. Barbara Wise: 
  55.. Doug Adams: 
  56.. Mary C. Mahoney: 
  57.. Ronald Miller: 
  58.. Sandy Hume: 
  59.. Jim McDougal: 
  60.. Johnny Lawhon: 
  61.. Charles Wilbourne Miller: 
  62.. Carlos Ghigliotti: 
  63.. Tony Moser:  

From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some were 
legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's your right. I do 
not.

On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:

He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions. 
Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been mostly 
'spenders'


Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:


Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often happens 
by accident, or in spite of intelligence.

On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:

Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if your 
looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible. 


Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:


Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now Waiting 
for right time to do it comrades

On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

https://streamable.com/md28v

I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is not some 
kind of joke taken too far...

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..  
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751

On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website. The 
bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half attended inauguration 
Women's March had a lot more... His ego is bruised.  Let me Trumpspeak... So 
sad. 

On Jan 22, 2017 12:47 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

there is this gem now 
http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:


Today we’ve great possibilities to spread news. But it is very difficult to get 
the real information unbiased. Breitbart is known to be very biased even here 
over the ocean. But it seems the „normal“ media in USA is biased, too. 

E.g. we never understood how Bush jun. got his second election where it was 
clear he started a war based on wrong information. This is unthinkable here. It 
would be the one point which would dominate the discussion and would make him 
unvotable here. Your media seemed to move the discussion away from this fact 
and relativated his guilty to make him votable.

Another example is the Hillary Email discussion. This is a topic which is minor 
at best but was discussed the whole time. 

I guess it is possible Trump kills a person in T

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Josh Reynolds]

He also ran a lot of less than ethical schemes to make his money. Some were
legal, some were not. You may consider that smart, and that's your right. I
do not.

On Jan 22, 2017 2:53 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:

> He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions.
> Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been mostly
> 'spenders'
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
> Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often
> happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.
>
> On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:
>
>> Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if your
>> looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible.
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now
>> Waiting for right time to do it comrades
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>>> https://streamable.com/md28v
>>>
>>> I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is not
>>> some kind of joke taken too far...
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..
>>>> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpo
>>>> st.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website.
>>>>> The bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half attended
>>>>> inauguration Women's March had a lot more... His ego is bruised.  Let
>>>>> me Trumpspeak... So sad.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 22, 2017 12:47 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> there is this gem now
>>>>>> http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
>>>>>> 24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today we’ve great possibilities to spread news. But it is very
>>>>>>> difficult to get the real information unbiased. Breitbart is known to be
>>>>>>> very biased even here over the ocean. But it seems the „normal“ media in
>>>>>>> USA is biased, too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> E.g. we never understood how Bush jun. got his second election where
>>>>>>> it was clear he started a war based on wrong information. This is
>>>>>>> unthinkable here. It would be the one point which would dominate the
>>>>>>> discussion and would make him unvotable here. Your media seemed to move 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> discussion away from this fact and relativated his guilty to make him
>>>>>>> votable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another example is the Hillary Email discussion. This is a topic
>>>>>>> which is minor at best but was discussed the whole time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess it is possible Trump kills a person in TV and get reelected
>>>>>>> if media helps him. Unthinkable? But killing one person is much less a
>>>>>>> problem than starting a war where thousands are killed. Breitbart would
>>>>>>> find 100 reasons why this person has to die and would find other topics 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> report.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good and neutral media are the base of a working democracy. For sure
>>>>>>> you have a problem.
>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Jon Langeler]

He had money, knew to hire the right people, and made good decisions. 
Historically that's not been common in politics. It's always been mostly 
'spenders'

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Jan 22, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
> 
> Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often 
> happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.
> 
>> On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:
>> Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if your 
>> looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible. 
>> 
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now 
>>> Waiting for right time to do it comrades
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>> https://streamable.com/md28v
>>>> 
>>>> I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is not 
>>>> some kind of joke taken too far...
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza 
>>>>> <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this.. 
>>>>> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website. 
>>>>>> The bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half attended 
>>>>>> inauguration Women's March had a lot more... His ego is bruised.  
>>>>>> Let me Trumpspeak... So sad. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 22, 2017 12:47 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
>>>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> there is this gem now
>>>>>>> http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
>>>>>>> 24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Today we’ve great possibilities to spread news. But it is very 
>>>>>>>> difficult to get the real information unbiased. Breitbart is known to 
>>>>>>>> be very biased even here over the ocean. But it seems the „normal“ 
>>>>>>>> media in USA is biased, too.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> E.g. we never understood how Bush jun. got his second election where 
>>>>>>>> it was clear he started a war based on wrong information. This is 
>>>>>>>> unthinkable here. It would be the one point which would dominate the 
>>>>>>>> discussion and would make him unvotable here. Your media seemed to 
>>>>>>>> move the discussion away from this fact and relativated his guilty to 
>>>>>>>> make him votable.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Another example is the Hillary Email discussion. This is a topic which 
>>>>>>>> is minor at best but was discussed the whole time.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I guess it is possible Trump kills a person in TV and get reelected if 
>>>>>>>> media helps him. Unthinkable? But killing one person is much less a 
>>>>>>>> problem than starting a war where thousands are killed. Breitbart 
>>>>>>>> would find 100 reasons why this person has to die and would find other 
>>>>>>>> topics to report.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Good and neutral media are the base of a working democracy. For sure 
>>>>>>>> you have a problem.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Josh Reynolds]

Net worth is in no way an indicator of intelligence. In fact, it often
happens by accident, or in spite of intelligence.

On Jan 22, 2017 2:00 PM, "Jon Langeler" <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote:

> Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if your
> looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible.
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now
> Waiting for right time to do it comrades
>
> On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
>> https://streamable.com/md28v
>>
>> I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is not
>> some kind of joke taken too far...
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..
>>> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpo
>>> st.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website.
>>>> The bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half attended
>>>> inauguration Women's March had a lot more... His ego is bruised.  Let
>>>> me Trumpspeak... So sad.
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 22, 2017 12:47 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> there is this gem now
>>>>> http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
>>>>> 24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Today we’ve great possibilities to spread news. But it is very
>>>>>> difficult to get the real information unbiased. Breitbart is known to be
>>>>>> very biased even here over the ocean. But it seems the „normal“ media in
>>>>>> USA is biased, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> E.g. we never understood how Bush jun. got his second election where
>>>>>> it was clear he started a war based on wrong information. This is
>>>>>> unthinkable here. It would be the one point which would dominate the
>>>>>> discussion and would make him unvotable here. Your media seemed to move 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> discussion away from this fact and relativated his guilty to make him
>>>>>> votable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another example is the Hillary Email discussion. This is a topic
>>>>>> which is minor at best but was discussed the whole time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess it is possible Trump kills a person in TV and get reelected
>>>>>> if media helps him. Unthinkable? But killing one person is much less a
>>>>>> problem than starting a war where thousands are killed. Breitbart would
>>>>>> find 100 reasons why this person has to die and would find other topics 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> report.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good and neutral media are the base of a working democracy. For sure
>>>>>> you have a problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One
>>>>>> Guy /sarcasm
>>>>>> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 22. Januar 2017 07:05
>>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Im pretty confident the next few days is setting the stage to
>>>>>> effectively shutting down "media access". Im all for it in the current
>>>>>> environment. Between press releases, Publicly accessible data, FOIA
>>>>>> responses, live streamed events, and one on one interviews (an

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Bill Prince]

On 1/22/2017 11:09 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:


can't see why anyone cares how many showed up.  Most of the coast is 
liberal. I would be shocked if anyone who was not a democrat got any 
crowd of any size.


Only really he cares. And there are at least two or three reasons why 
the crowd was so much smaller. The coast(s) may be liberal, but it also 
is common knowledge that a liberal in Texas would be called a 
conservative on either coast.


It is amusing that he gets upset about reporters focusing on the 
negative.  Get over it. Most media is liberal, so what.  You slap them 
around for a year and a half and you expect them to focus on anything 
good?


It also depends (a lot) on what you define as "media". For every alleged 
liberal media outlet, you can pretty much find another conservative one. 
But I'm not arguing about that. One of the pieces of advice he got from 
Obama was "You better have a thick skin". He's living in a bubble of 
entirely different dimensions than what he used to control. It's out of 
his control, and he's either going to get used to it or he's going to 
auger in.


If anything will hasten his self destruction it is his manic focus on 
what anyone says about him.



No argument from me on that one.

bp

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Jon Langeler]

Considering his net worth he might he smarter than any of us. But if your 
looking for miracles you might be better off reading the bible. 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now Waiting 
> for right time to do it comrades
> 
>> On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>> https://streamable.com/md28v
>> 
>> I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is not some 
>> kind of joke taken too far...
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this.. 
>>> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website. The 
>>>> bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half attended 
>>>> inauguration Women's March had a lot more... His ego is bruised.  Let 
>>>> me Trumpspeak... So sad. 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 22, 2017 12:47 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
>>>>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> there is this gem now
>>>>> http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
>>>>> 24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Today we’ve great possibilities to spread news. But it is very difficult 
>>>>>> to get the real information unbiased. Breitbart is known to be very 
>>>>>> biased even here over the ocean. But it seems the „normal“ media in USA 
>>>>>> is biased, too.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> E.g. we never understood how Bush jun. got his second election where it 
>>>>>> was clear he started a war based on wrong information. This is 
>>>>>> unthinkable here. It would be the one point which would dominate the 
>>>>>> discussion and would make him unvotable here. Your media seemed to move 
>>>>>> the discussion away from this fact and relativated his guilty to make 
>>>>>> him votable.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Another example is the Hillary Email discussion. This is a topic which 
>>>>>> is minor at best but was discussed the whole time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I guess it is possible Trump kills a person in TV and get reelected if 
>>>>>> media helps him. Unthinkable? But killing one person is much less a 
>>>>>> problem than starting a war where thousands are killed. Breitbart would 
>>>>>> find 100 reasons why this person has to die and would find other topics 
>>>>>> to report.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good and neutral media are the base of a working democracy. For sure you 
>>>>>> have a problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von That One Guy 
>>>>>> /sarcasm
>>>>>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. Januar 2017 07:05
>>>>>> An: af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Im pretty confident the next few days is setting the stage to 
>>>>>> effectively shutting down "media access". Im all for it in the current 
>>>>>> environment. Between press releases, Publicly accessible data, FOIA 
>>>>>> responses, live streamed events, and one on one interviews (and 
>>>>>> yes...twitter) the press really is the dialup internet method of getting 
>>>>>> information. We know more in real time then the press could ever package 
>>>>>> up and present. The current mindset of media in press conferences is 
>>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Jaime Solorza]

Empty promises just like his brain.But it's okay to grope now
Waiting for right time to do it comrades

On Jan 22, 2017 10:38 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> https://streamable.com/md28v
>
> I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is not
> some kind of joke taken too far...
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..
>> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpo
>> st.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website.
>>> The bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half attended
>>> inauguration Women's March had a lot more... His ego is bruised.  Let
>>> me Trumpspeak... So sad.
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2017 12:47 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> there is this gem now
>>>> http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
>>>> 24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Today we’ve great possibilities to spread news. But it is very
>>>>> difficult to get the real information unbiased. Breitbart is known to be
>>>>> very biased even here over the ocean. But it seems the „normal“ media in
>>>>> USA is biased, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> E.g. we never understood how Bush jun. got his second election where
>>>>> it was clear he started a war based on wrong information. This is
>>>>> unthinkable here. It would be the one point which would dominate the
>>>>> discussion and would make him unvotable here. Your media seemed to move 
>>>>> the
>>>>> discussion away from this fact and relativated his guilty to make him
>>>>> votable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another example is the Hillary Email discussion. This is a topic which
>>>>> is minor at best but was discussed the whole time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess it is possible Trump kills a person in TV and get reelected if
>>>>> media helps him. Unthinkable? But killing one person is much less a 
>>>>> problem
>>>>> than starting a war where thousands are killed. Breitbart would find 100
>>>>> reasons why this person has to die and would find other topics to report.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good and neutral media are the base of a working democracy. For sure
>>>>> you have a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>>>>> /sarcasm
>>>>> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 22. Januar 2017 07:05
>>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Im pretty confident the next few days is setting the stage to
>>>>> effectively shutting down "media access". Im all for it in the current
>>>>> environment. Between press releases, Publicly accessible data, FOIA
>>>>> responses, live streamed events, and one on one interviews (and
>>>>> yes...twitter) the press really is the dialup internet method of getting
>>>>> information. We know more in real time then the press could ever package 
>>>>> up
>>>>> and present. The current mindset of media in press conferences is that of
>>>>> militants (both sides of the media isle) and there is zero professionalism
>>>>> from either one. Neither really gives a damn what the answer is anyway,
>>>>> theyre going to report whatever their preconceived response was either 
>>>>> way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Question: Did we send B52 Bombers to hit an ISIS target?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Answer: Yes
>>>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Bill Prince]

Yeah. In the old days, you would get obfuscation. Now we will just get 
bald face lies.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/22/2017 10:59 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
There are not official records for inaugurations for crowd sizes. They 
have to look at other sources of data and make best guesses.


That said, each area of the National Mall is pretty well known to hold 
a certain number of people. It's easier when you can count the lawn 
squares.


President Trump's inaguration crowd was absent in a lot of squares, 
which either means the previous inaguration counts were way too low, 
or that this count was estimated far too high. Either way, it's still 
a blatant lie that more people were there.


It's not a big deal that less people were there, it's a big deal that 
there is irrefutable evidence that dumps the white house press 
secretary's narrative on its face.


This is a sign of things to come, and it is terrifying.



On Jan 22, 2017 12:36 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com 
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:


It amazes me that an adult at the top of the political pyramid is
so immature to get butt hurt over the size of crowd that showed up.
Pretty sure D.C. is something like 80% black folk.  Having the
first black president is surely something to get stoked about if
you are black, and if you live there, why not make the effort to
go see the show.  I wonder if there are crowd size records for all
the inaugurations.
I watched the young pope first two episodes. This reminds me of
the second episode where the pope gets pissed because someone hit
in a laser pointer.
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 11:22 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
I started reading this: http://www.justfacts.com/
Some of the statistics really rocked my socks.
-- Original Message --
From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com>
    Sent: 1/22/2017 1:05:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

Im pretty confident the next few days is setting the stage to
effectively shutting down "media access". Im all for it in the
current environment. Between press releases, Publicly accessible
data, FOIA responses, live streamed events, and one on one
interviews (and yes...twitter) the press really is the dialup
internet method of getting information. We know more in real time
then the press could ever package up and present. The current
mindset of media in press conferences is that of militants (both
sides of the media isle) and there is zero professionalism from
either one. Neither really gives a damn what the answer is
anyway, theyre going to report whatever their preconceived
response was either way.
Question: Did we send B52 Bombers to hit an ISIS target?
Answer: Yes
CNN under Obama: Obama authorizes successful airstrike removing
100 ISIS fighters in final days of his presidency. This act
ensures that those who would commit terror will be addressed
accordingly, even during the transition of power.
Breitbart under Obama: Obama, the snake furthers military
conflict day before leaving office, leaving all Americans at risk
during a tumultuous time of transition. Kills 100, ensuring a
retaliatory response.
Had the same attack been authorized today:
CNN under Trump: MILITARY FIASCO: Trump bombs random targets. Top
military officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, refuse to
verify there were no civilian casualties, at least 100 confirmed
dead. War crime charges possible?
Breitbart under Trump: God Emperor Trump authorized the removal
of 100 ISIS top leaders in his first act as Commander in Chief.
Rumors of ISIS surrender. Barack Obama potentially one of the
dead operatives.
On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I'm all for it.  I think that everyone is probably just
impressed by the first white house press briefing and the
remarks at Langley.  What an amazing public speaker this one
is. Have you ever had a friend or friend's uncle or something
who did too much meth?  You know how they start out with one
sentence and then before you know it they have told fifteen
other stories before they ever get to the point...if they
ever do???  We have four years of that to look forward to. 
Just watch the full speech at the CIA, you will see what I

mean.  Or don'tsave yourself the pain.
On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds
<j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

Can we talk about politics yet? :P



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see

your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of
the team.

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Josh Reynolds]

There are not official records for inaugurations for crowd sizes. They have
to look at other sources of data and make best guesses.

That said, each area of the National Mall is pretty well known to hold a
certain number of people. It's easier when you can count the lawn squares.

President Trump's inaguration crowd was absent in a lot of squares, which
either means the previous inaguration counts were way too low, or that this
count was estimated far too high. Either way, it's still a blatant lie that
more people were there.

It's not a big deal that less people were there, it's a big deal that there
is irrefutable evidence that dumps the white house press secretary's
narrative on its face.

This is a sign of things to come, and it is terrifying.



On Jan 22, 2017 12:36 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> It amazes me that an adult at the top of the political pyramid is so
> immature to get butt hurt over the size of crowd that showed up.
>
> Pretty sure D.C. is something like 80% black folk.  Having the first black
> president is surely something to get stoked about if you are black, and if
> you live there, why not make the effort to go see the show.  I wonder if
> there are crowd size records for all the inaugurations.
>
> I watched the young pope first two episodes.  This reminds me of the
> second episode where the pope gets pissed because someone hit in a laser
> pointer.
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2017 11:22 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
> I started reading this: http://www.justfacts.com/
> Some of the statistics really rocked my socks.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Sent: 1/22/2017 1:05:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
>
> Im pretty confident the next few days is setting the stage to effectively
> shutting down "media access". Im all for it in the current environment.
> Between press releases, Publicly accessible data, FOIA responses, live
> streamed events, and one on one interviews (and yes...twitter) the press
> really is the dialup internet method of getting information. We know more
> in real time then the press could ever package up and present. The current
> mindset of media in press conferences is that of militants (both sides of
> the media isle) and there is zero professionalism from either one. Neither
> really gives a damn what the answer is anyway, theyre going to report
> whatever their preconceived response was either way.
>
> Question: Did we send B52 Bombers to hit an ISIS target?
>
> Answer: Yes
>
> CNN under Obama: Obama authorizes successful airstrike removing 100 ISIS
> fighters in final days of his presidency. This act ensures that those who
> would commit terror will be addressed accordingly, even during the
> transition of power.
>
> Breitbart under Obama: Obama, the snake furthers military conflict day
> before leaving office, leaving all Americans at risk during a tumultuous
> time of transition. Kills 100, ensuring a retaliatory response.
>
> Had the same attack been authorized today:
>
> CNN under Trump: MILITARY FIASCO: Trump bombs random targets. Top military
> officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, refuse to verify there were
> no civilian casualties, at least 100 confirmed dead. War crime charges
> possible?
>
> Breitbart under Trump: God Emperor Trump  authorized the removal of 100
> ISIS top leaders in his first act as Commander in Chief. Rumors of ISIS
> surrender. Barack Obama potentially one of the dead operatives.
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm all for it.  I think that everyone is probably just impressed by the
>> first white house press briefing and the remarks at Langley.  What an
>> amazing public speaker this one is.  Have you ever had a friend or friend's
>> uncle or something who did too much meth?  You know how they start out with
>> one sentence and then before you know it they have told fifteen other
>> stories before they ever get to the point...if they ever do???  We have
>> four years of that to look forward to.  Just watch the full speech at the
>> CIA, you will see what I mean.  Or don'tsave yourself the pain.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can we talk about politics yet? :P
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Chuck McCown]

It amazes me that an adult at the top of the political pyramid is so immature 
to get butt hurt over the size of crowd that showed up.

Pretty sure D.C. is something like 80% black folk.  Having the first black 
president is surely something to get stoked about if you are black, and if you 
live there, why not make the effort to go see the show.  I wonder if there are 
crowd size records for all the inaugurations.  

I watched the young pope first two episodes.  This reminds me of the second 
episode where the pope gets pissed because someone hit in a laser pointer.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 11:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

I started reading this: http://www.justfacts.com/
Some of the statistics really rocked my socks. 


-- Original Message --
From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 1/22/2017 1:05:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

  Im pretty confident the next few days is setting the stage to effectively 
shutting down "media access". Im all for it in the current environment. Between 
press releases, Publicly accessible data, FOIA responses, live streamed events, 
and one on one interviews (and yes...twitter) the press really is the dialup 
internet method of getting information. We know more in real time then the 
press could ever package up and present. The current mindset of media in press 
conferences is that of militants (both sides of the media isle) and there is 
zero professionalism from either one. Neither really gives a damn what the 
answer is anyway, theyre going to report whatever their preconceived response 
was either way. 

  Question: Did we send B52 Bombers to hit an ISIS target?

  Answer: Yes

  CNN under Obama: Obama authorizes successful airstrike removing 100 ISIS 
fighters in final days of his presidency. This act ensures that those who would 
commit terror will be addressed accordingly, even during the transition of 
power.

  Breitbart under Obama: Obama, the snake furthers military conflict day before 
leaving office, leaving all Americans at risk during a tumultuous time of 
transition. Kills 100, ensuring a retaliatory response.

  Had the same attack been authorized today:

  CNN under Trump: MILITARY FIASCO: Trump bombs random targets. Top military 
officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, refuse to verify there were no 
civilian casualties, at least 100 confirmed dead. War crime charges possible?

  Breitbart under Trump: God Emperor Trump  authorized the removal of 100 ISIS 
top leaders in his first act as Commander in Chief. Rumors of ISIS surrender. 
Barack Obama potentially one of the dead operatives.

  On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm all for it.  I think that everyone is probably just impressed by the 
first white house press briefing and the remarks at Langley.  What an amazing 
public speaker this one is.  Have you ever had a friend or friend's uncle or 
something who did too much meth?  You know how they start out with one sentence 
and then before you know it they have told fifteen other stories before they 
ever get to the point...if they ever do???  We have four years of that to look 
forward to.  Just watch the full speech at the CIA, you will see what I mean.  
Or don'tsave yourself the pain.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
wrote:

  Can we talk about politics yet? :P






  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Colin Stanners]

https://streamable.com/md28v

I still cannot settle down with the idea that a Trump presidency is not
some kind of joke taken too far...

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..
> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.
> huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751
>
> On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website. The
>> bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half attended
>> inauguration Women's March had a lot more... His ego is bruised.  Let
>> me Trumpspeak... So sad.
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2017 12:47 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> there is this gem now
>>> http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
>>> 24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Today we’ve great possibilities to spread news. But it is very
>>>> difficult to get the real information unbiased. Breitbart is known to be
>>>> very biased even here over the ocean. But it seems the „normal“ media in
>>>> USA is biased, too.
>>>>
>>>> E.g. we never understood how Bush jun. got his second election where it
>>>> was clear he started a war based on wrong information. This is unthinkable
>>>> here. It would be the one point which would dominate the discussion and
>>>> would make him unvotable here. Your media seemed to move the discussion
>>>> away from this fact and relativated his guilty to make him votable.
>>>>
>>>> Another example is the Hillary Email discussion. This is a topic which
>>>> is minor at best but was discussed the whole time.
>>>>
>>>> I guess it is possible Trump kills a person in TV and get reelected if
>>>> media helps him. Unthinkable? But killing one person is much less a problem
>>>> than starting a war where thousands are killed. Breitbart would find 100
>>>> reasons why this person has to die and would find other topics to report.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good and neutral media are the base of a working democracy. For sure
>>>> you have a problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>>>> /sarcasm
>>>> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 22. Januar 2017 07:05
>>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Im pretty confident the next few days is setting the stage to
>>>> effectively shutting down "media access". Im all for it in the current
>>>> environment. Between press releases, Publicly accessible data, FOIA
>>>> responses, live streamed events, and one on one interviews (and
>>>> yes...twitter) the press really is the dialup internet method of getting
>>>> information. We know more in real time then the press could ever package up
>>>> and present. The current mindset of media in press conferences is that of
>>>> militants (both sides of the media isle) and there is zero professionalism
>>>> from either one. Neither really gives a damn what the answer is anyway,
>>>> theyre going to report whatever their preconceived response was either way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Question: Did we send B52 Bombers to hit an ISIS target?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Answer: Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> CNN under Obama: Obama authorizes successful airstrike removing 100
>>>> ISIS fighters in final days of his presidency. This act ensures that those
>>>> who would commit terror will be addressed accordingly, even during the
>>>> transition of power.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Breitbart under Obama: Obama, the snake furthers military conflict day
>>>> before leaving office, leaving all Americans at risk during a tumultuous
>>>> time of transition. Kills 100, ensuring a retaliatory response.
>>>>
>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Josh Reynolds]

Do some fact checking and research on that site :)



On Jan 22, 2017 12:22 PM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I started reading this: http://www.justfacts.com/
> Some of the statistics really rocked my socks.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Sent: 1/22/2017 1:05:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
> Im pretty confident the next few days is setting the stage to effectively
> shutting down "media access". Im all for it in the current environment.
> Between press releases, Publicly accessible data, FOIA responses, live
> streamed events, and one on one interviews (and yes...twitter) the press
> really is the dialup internet method of getting information. We know more
> in real time then the press could ever package up and present. The current
> mindset of media in press conferences is that of militants (both sides of
> the media isle) and there is zero professionalism from either one. Neither
> really gives a damn what the answer is anyway, theyre going to report
> whatever their preconceived response was either way.
>
> Question: Did we send B52 Bombers to hit an ISIS target?
>
> Answer: Yes
>
> CNN under Obama: Obama authorizes successful airstrike removing 100 ISIS
> fighters in final days of his presidency. This act ensures that those who
> would commit terror will be addressed accordingly, even during the
> transition of power.
>
> Breitbart under Obama: Obama, the snake furthers military conflict day
> before leaving office, leaving all Americans at risk during a tumultuous
> time of transition. Kills 100, ensuring a retaliatory response.
>
> Had the same attack been authorized today:
>
> CNN under Trump: MILITARY FIASCO: Trump bombs random targets. Top military
> officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, refuse to verify there were
> no civilian casualties, at least 100 confirmed dead. War crime charges
> possible?
>
> Breitbart under Trump: God Emperor Trump  authorized the removal of 100
> ISIS top leaders in his first act as Commander in Chief. Rumors of ISIS
> surrender. Barack Obama potentially one of the dead operatives.
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm all for it.  I think that everyone is probably just impressed by the
>> first white house press briefing and the remarks at Langley.  What an
>> amazing public speaker this one is.  Have you ever had a friend or friend's
>> uncle or something who did too much meth?  You know how they start out with
>> one sentence and then before you know it they have told fifteen other
>> stories before they ever get to the point...if they ever do???  We have
>> four years of that to look forward to.  Just watch the full speech at the
>> CIA, you will see what I mean.  Or don'tsave yourself the pain.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can we talk about politics yet? :P
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Adam Moffett]

I started reading this: http://www.justfacts.com/
Some of the statistics really rocked my socks.


-- Original Message --
From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 1/22/2017 1:05:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

Im pretty confident the next few days is setting the stage to 
effectively shutting down "media access". Im all for it in the current 
environment. Between press releases, Publicly accessible data, FOIA 
responses, live streamed events, and one on one interviews (and 
yes...twitter) the press really is the dialup internet method of 
getting information. We know more in real time then the press could 
ever package up and present. The current mindset of media in press 
conferences is that of militants (both sides of the media isle) and 
there is zero professionalism from either one. Neither really gives a 
damn what the answer is anyway, theyre going to report whatever their 
preconceived response was either way.


Question: Did we send B52 Bombers to hit an ISIS target?

Answer: Yes

CNN under Obama: Obama authorizes successful airstrike removing 100 
ISIS fighters in final days of his presidency. This act ensures that 
those who would commit terror will be addressed accordingly, even 
during the transition of power.


Breitbart under Obama: Obama, the snake furthers military conflict day 
before leaving office, leaving all Americans at risk during a 
tumultuous time of transition. Kills 100, ensuring a retaliatory 
response.


Had the same attack been authorized today:

CNN under Trump: MILITARY FIASCO: Trump bombs random targets. Top 
military officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, refuse to 
verify there were no civilian casualties, at least 100 confirmed dead. 
War crime charges possible?


Breitbart under Trump: God Emperor Trump  authorized the removal of 100 
ISIS top leaders in his first act as Commander in Chief. Rumors of ISIS 
surrender. Barack Obama potentially one of the dead operatives.


On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
I'm all for it.  I think that everyone is probably just impressed by 
the first white house press briefing and the remarks at Langley.  What 
an amazing public speaker this one is.  Have you ever had a friend or 
friend's uncle or something who did too much meth?  You know how they 
start out with one sentence and then before you know it they have told 
fifteen other stories before they ever get to the point...if they ever 
do???  We have four years of that to look forward to.  Just watch the 
full speech at the CIA, you will see what I mean.  Or don'tsave 
yourself the pain.


On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
wrote:

Can we talk about politics yet? :P






--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Josh Reynolds]

Drone strikes hit today in Yemen... Just FYI :P

On Jan 22, 2017 12:05 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> Im pretty confident the next few days is setting the stage to effectively
> shutting down "media access". Im all for it in the current environment.
> Between press releases, Publicly accessible data, FOIA responses, live
> streamed events, and one on one interviews (and yes...twitter) the press
> really is the dialup internet method of getting information. We know more
> in real time then the press could ever package up and present. The current
> mindset of media in press conferences is that of militants (both sides of
> the media isle) and there is zero professionalism from either one. Neither
> really gives a damn what the answer is anyway, theyre going to report
> whatever their preconceived response was either way.
>
> Question: Did we send B52 Bombers to hit an ISIS target?
>
> Answer: Yes
>
> CNN under Obama: Obama authorizes successful airstrike removing 100 ISIS
> fighters in final days of his presidency. This act ensures that those who
> would commit terror will be addressed accordingly, even during the
> transition of power.
>
> Breitbart under Obama: Obama, the snake furthers military conflict day
> before leaving office, leaving all Americans at risk during a tumultuous
> time of transition. Kills 100, ensuring a retaliatory response.
>
> Had the same attack been authorized today:
>
> CNN under Trump: MILITARY FIASCO: Trump bombs random targets. Top military
> officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, refuse to verify there were
> no civilian casualties, at least 100 confirmed dead. War crime charges
> possible?
>
> Breitbart under Trump: God Emperor Trump  authorized the removal of 100
> ISIS top leaders in his first act as Commander in Chief. Rumors of ISIS
> surrender. Barack Obama potentially one of the dead operatives.
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>
>> I'm all for it.  I think that everyone is probably just impressed by the
>> first white house press briefing and the remarks at Langley.  What an
>> amazing public speaker this one is.  Have you ever had a friend or friend's
>> uncle or something who did too much meth?  You know how they start out with
>> one sentence and then before you know it they have told fifteen other
>> stories before they ever get to the point...if they ever do???  We have
>> four years of that to look forward to.  Just watch the full speech at the
>> CIA, you will see what I mean.  Or don'tsave yourself the pain.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can we talk about politics yet? :P
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Josh Reynolds]

I'm amazed at the new white house press secretary flat out fucking lying
about how many people were at the inauguration. What fucking balls! LOL.
There is time lapse video from several sources.. pictures from previous
events, etc.

That said, this transition is fucking terrifying.

Very few nuclear and security positions filled... That's a problem. There
will be gaps of 6 months to a year before people will ever show up to work
after having their names thrown in, let alone get up to speed.

A lot of the people he wants confirmed it seems have _serious_ ethics
issues.

I actually want to give Trump a chance. I think it's the right thing to do.

So far, he's breaking all of his campaign promises and not draining the
swamp but making it far, far worse.

The only people that have been submitted for consideration besides ole Mad
Dog (great pick btw) are business associates, other billionaires and
super-millionaires, etc... People that have him a lot of money for his
campaign, were in business deals with him, etc.

"Obama founded ISIS. He's the founder." Talks about how the policy against
ISIS is terrible, he knows exactly how to handle it, etc. Then keeps the
Obama strategy architect against ISIS with no plan on how to replace him.

"We're going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it."

American people will now be paying for said wall.

"From day one, no more amnesty, we'll be rounding them up and shipping them
out " (Paraphrased)

No action there...

"On day one we'll be cancelling Executive Orders for X"

(Nothing yet...)

Lock her up! Lock her up!

(No going to do it...)

"I'll release my tax returns"

(Nope... And it may be because of the IRS, I'll give him that..)

"I'll be removing myself from my business involvement"

(Not quite... He's turning some functions over to his kids and then having
them involved in policy mettings...)

The irony of this, and how messed up it all is would be hilarious if it
wasn't so terrifying.

I feel like this campaign was ran on WWE style promos and done as a
business decision.

He's still getting settled in, but things sure aren't looking good...



On Jan 22, 2017 8:43 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..
> https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.
> huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751
>
> On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website. The
>> bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half attended
>> inauguration Women's March had a lot more... His ego is bruised.  Let
>> me Trumpspeak... So sad.
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2017 12:47 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> there is this gem now
>>> http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
>>> 24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Today we’ve great possibilities to spread news. But it is very
>>>> difficult to get the real information unbiased. Breitbart is known to be
>>>> very biased even here over the ocean. But it seems the „normal“ media in
>>>> USA is biased, too.
>>>>
>>>> E.g. we never understood how Bush jun. got his second election where it
>>>> was clear he started a war based on wrong information. This is unthinkable
>>>> here. It would be the one point which would dominate the discussion and
>>>> would make him unvotable here. Your media seemed to move the discussion
>>>> away from this fact and relativated his guilty to make him votable.
>>>>
>>>> Another example is the Hillary Email discussion. This is a topic which
>>>> is minor at best but was discussed the whole time.
>>>>
>>>> I guess it is possible Trump kills a person in TV and get reelected if
>>>> media helps him. Unthinkable? But killing one person is much less a problem
>>>> than starting a war where thousands are killed. Breitbart would find 100
>>>> reasons why this person has to die and would find other topics to report.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good and neutral media are the base of a working democracy. For sure
>>>> you have a problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag v

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Jaime Solorza]

Waiting on Tweets Trump or Trumps Tweet response to this..
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fm.huffpost.com%2Fus%2Fentry%2Fus_5884a06be4b096b4a2325818%2Famp#pt0-568751

On Jan 22, 2017 7:40 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website. The
> bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half attended
> inauguration Women's March had a lot more... His ego is bruised.  Let
> me Trumpspeak... So sad.
>
> On Jan 22, 2017 12:47 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> there is this gem now
>> http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
>> 24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Today we’ve great possibilities to spread news. But it is very difficult
>>> to get the real information unbiased. Breitbart is known to be very biased
>>> even here over the ocean. But it seems the „normal“ media in USA is biased,
>>> too.
>>>
>>> E.g. we never understood how Bush jun. got his second election where it
>>> was clear he started a war based on wrong information. This is unthinkable
>>> here. It would be the one point which would dominate the discussion and
>>> would make him unvotable here. Your media seemed to move the discussion
>>> away from this fact and relativated his guilty to make him votable.
>>>
>>> Another example is the Hillary Email discussion. This is a topic which
>>> is minor at best but was discussed the whole time.
>>>
>>> I guess it is possible Trump kills a person in TV and get reelected if
>>> media helps him. Unthinkable? But killing one person is much less a problem
>>> than starting a war where thousands are killed. Breitbart would find 100
>>> reasons why this person has to die and would find other topics to report.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good and neutral media are the base of a working democracy. For sure you
>>> have a problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>>> /sarcasm
>>> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 22. Januar 2017 07:05
>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Im pretty confident the next few days is setting the stage to
>>> effectively shutting down "media access". Im all for it in the current
>>> environment. Between press releases, Publicly accessible data, FOIA
>>> responses, live streamed events, and one on one interviews (and
>>> yes...twitter) the press really is the dialup internet method of getting
>>> information. We know more in real time then the press could ever package up
>>> and present. The current mindset of media in press conferences is that of
>>> militants (both sides of the media isle) and there is zero professionalism
>>> from either one. Neither really gives a damn what the answer is anyway,
>>> theyre going to report whatever their preconceived response was either way.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Question: Did we send B52 Bombers to hit an ISIS target?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Answer: Yes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> CNN under Obama: Obama authorizes successful airstrike removing 100 ISIS
>>> fighters in final days of his presidency. This act ensures that those who
>>> would commit terror will be addressed accordingly, even during the
>>> transition of power.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Breitbart under Obama: Obama, the snake furthers military conflict day
>>> before leaving office, leaving all Americans at risk during a tumultuous
>>> time of transition. Kills 100, ensuring a retaliatory response.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Had the same attack been authorized today:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> CNN under Trump: MILITARY FIASCO: Trump bombs random targets. Top
>>> military officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, refuse to verify
>>> there were no civilian casualties, at least 100 confirmed dead. War crime
>>> charges possible?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Breitbart under Trump: God Emperor Trump  authorized the removal of 100
>>> ISIS top leaders in his first act as Commander in Chief. Rumors of ISIS
>>> surrende

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Jaime Solorza]

Hey but you can buy Melanias jewelry line on new white house website. The
bullshit is going to get worse...no million and half attended
inauguration Women's March had a lot more... His ego is bruised.  Let
me Trumpspeak... So sad.

On Jan 22, 2017 12:47 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> there is this gem now
> http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
> 24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
>
>> Today we’ve great possibilities to spread news. But it is very difficult
>> to get the real information unbiased. Breitbart is known to be very biased
>> even here over the ocean. But it seems the „normal“ media in USA is biased,
>> too.
>>
>> E.g. we never understood how Bush jun. got his second election where it
>> was clear he started a war based on wrong information. This is unthinkable
>> here. It would be the one point which would dominate the discussion and
>> would make him unvotable here. Your media seemed to move the discussion
>> away from this fact and relativated his guilty to make him votable.
>>
>> Another example is the Hillary Email discussion. This is a topic which is
>> minor at best but was discussed the whole time.
>>
>> I guess it is possible Trump kills a person in TV and get reelected if
>> media helps him. Unthinkable? But killing one person is much less a problem
>> than starting a war where thousands are killed. Breitbart would find 100
>> reasons why this person has to die and would find other topics to report.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Good and neutral media are the base of a working democracy. For sure you
>> have a problem.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
>> /sarcasm
>> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 22. Januar 2017 07:05
>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>>
>>
>>
>> Im pretty confident the next few days is setting the stage to effectively
>> shutting down "media access". Im all for it in the current environment.
>> Between press releases, Publicly accessible data, FOIA responses, live
>> streamed events, and one on one interviews (and yes...twitter) the press
>> really is the dialup internet method of getting information. We know more
>> in real time then the press could ever package up and present. The current
>> mindset of media in press conferences is that of militants (both sides of
>> the media isle) and there is zero professionalism from either one. Neither
>> really gives a damn what the answer is anyway, theyre going to report
>> whatever their preconceived response was either way.
>>
>>
>>
>> Question: Did we send B52 Bombers to hit an ISIS target?
>>
>>
>>
>> Answer: Yes
>>
>>
>>
>> CNN under Obama: Obama authorizes successful airstrike removing 100 ISIS
>> fighters in final days of his presidency. This act ensures that those who
>> would commit terror will be addressed accordingly, even during the
>> transition of power.
>>
>>
>>
>> Breitbart under Obama: Obama, the snake furthers military conflict day
>> before leaving office, leaving all Americans at risk during a tumultuous
>> time of transition. Kills 100, ensuring a retaliatory response.
>>
>>
>>
>> Had the same attack been authorized today:
>>
>>
>>
>> CNN under Trump: MILITARY FIASCO: Trump bombs random targets. Top
>> military officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, refuse to verify
>> there were no civilian casualties, at least 100 confirmed dead. War crime
>> charges possible?
>>
>>
>>
>> Breitbart under Trump: God Emperor Trump  authorized the removal of 100
>> ISIS top leaders in his first act as Commander in Chief. Rumors of ISIS
>> surrender. Barack Obama potentially one of the dead operatives.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm all for it.  I think that everyone is probably just impressed by the
>> first white house press briefing and the remarks at Langley.  What an
>> amazing public speaker this one is.  Have you ever had a friend or friend's
>> uncle or something who did too much meth?  You know how they start out with
>> one sentence and then before you know it they have told fifteen other
>> stories before they ever get to the point...if they ever do???  We have
>> four years of that to look forward to.  Just watch the full speech at the
>> CIA, you will see what I mean.  Or don'tsave yourself the pain.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Can we talk about politics yet? :P
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

there is this gem now
http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
24x7 real time stream of people being idiots ala transformers guy

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:

> Today we’ve great possibilities to spread news. But it is very difficult
> to get the real information unbiased. Breitbart is known to be very biased
> even here over the ocean. But it seems the „normal“ media in USA is biased,
> too.
>
> E.g. we never understood how Bush jun. got his second election where it
> was clear he started a war based on wrong information. This is unthinkable
> here. It would be the one point which would dominate the discussion and
> would make him unvotable here. Your media seemed to move the discussion
> away from this fact and relativated his guilty to make him votable.
>
> Another example is the Hillary Email discussion. This is a topic which is
> minor at best but was discussed the whole time.
>
> I guess it is possible Trump kills a person in TV and get reelected if
> media helps him. Unthinkable? But killing one person is much less a problem
> than starting a war where thousands are killed. Breitbart would find 100
> reasons why this person has to die and would find other topics to report.
>
>
>
>
>
> Good and neutral media are the base of a working democracy. For sure you
> have a problem.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 22. Januar 2017 07:05
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?
>
>
>
> Im pretty confident the next few days is setting the stage to effectively
> shutting down "media access". Im all for it in the current environment.
> Between press releases, Publicly accessible data, FOIA responses, live
> streamed events, and one on one interviews (and yes...twitter) the press
> really is the dialup internet method of getting information. We know more
> in real time then the press could ever package up and present. The current
> mindset of media in press conferences is that of militants (both sides of
> the media isle) and there is zero professionalism from either one. Neither
> really gives a damn what the answer is anyway, theyre going to report
> whatever their preconceived response was either way.
>
>
>
> Question: Did we send B52 Bombers to hit an ISIS target?
>
>
>
> Answer: Yes
>
>
>
> CNN under Obama: Obama authorizes successful airstrike removing 100 ISIS
> fighters in final days of his presidency. This act ensures that those who
> would commit terror will be addressed accordingly, even during the
> transition of power.
>
>
>
> Breitbart under Obama: Obama, the snake furthers military conflict day
> before leaving office, leaving all Americans at risk during a tumultuous
> time of transition. Kills 100, ensuring a retaliatory response.
>
>
>
> Had the same attack been authorized today:
>
>
>
> CNN under Trump: MILITARY FIASCO: Trump bombs random targets. Top military
> officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, refuse to verify there were
> no civilian casualties, at least 100 confirmed dead. War crime charges
> possible?
>
>
>
> Breitbart under Trump: God Emperor Trump  authorized the removal of 100
> ISIS top leaders in his first act as Commander in Chief. Rumors of ISIS
> surrender. Barack Obama potentially one of the dead operatives.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm all for it.  I think that everyone is probably just impressed by the
> first white house press briefing and the remarks at Langley.  What an
> amazing public speaker this one is.  Have you ever had a friend or friend's
> uncle or something who did too much meth?  You know how they start out with
> one sentence and then before you know it they have told fifteen other
> stories before they ever get to the point...if they ever do???  We have
> four years of that to look forward to.  Just watch the full speech at the
> CIA, you will see what I mean.  Or don'tsave yourself the pain.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> wrote:
>
> Can we talk about politics yet? :P
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Stefan Englhardt]

Today we’ve great possibilities to spread news. But it is very difficult to get 
the real information unbiased. Breitbart is known to be very biased even here 
over the ocean. But it seems the „normal“ media in USA is biased, too.

E.g. we never understood how Bush jun. got his second election where it was 
clear he started a war based on wrong information. This is unthinkable here. It 
would be the one point which would dominate the discussion and would make him 
unvotable here. Your media seemed to move the discussion away from this fact 
and relativated his guilty to make him votable.

Another example is the Hillary Email discussion. This is a topic which is minor 
at best but was discussed the whole time.

I guess it is possible Trump kills a person in TV and get reelected if media 
helps him. Unthinkable? But killing one person is much less a problem than 
starting a war where thousands are killed. Breitbart would find 100 reasons why 
this person has to die and would find other topics to report.





Good and neutral media are the base of a working democracy. For sure you have a 
problem.







Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von That One Guy /sarcasm
Gesendet: Sonntag, 22. Januar 2017 07:05
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?



Im pretty confident the next few days is setting the stage to effectively 
shutting down "media access". Im all for it in the current environment. Between 
press releases, Publicly accessible data, FOIA responses, live streamed events, 
and one on one interviews (and yes...twitter) the press really is the dialup 
internet method of getting information. We know more in real time then the 
press could ever package up and present. The current mindset of media in press 
conferences is that of militants (both sides of the media isle) and there is 
zero professionalism from either one. Neither really gives a damn what the 
answer is anyway, theyre going to report whatever their preconceived response 
was either way.



Question: Did we send B52 Bombers to hit an ISIS target?



Answer: Yes



CNN under Obama: Obama authorizes successful airstrike removing 100 ISIS 
fighters in final days of his presidency. This act ensures that those who would 
commit terror will be addressed accordingly, even during the transition of 
power.



Breitbart under Obama: Obama, the snake furthers military conflict day before 
leaving office, leaving all Americans at risk during a tumultuous time of 
transition. Kills 100, ensuring a retaliatory response.



Had the same attack been authorized today:



CNN under Trump: MILITARY FIASCO: Trump bombs random targets. Top military 
officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, refuse to verify there were no 
civilian casualties, at least 100 confirmed dead. War crime charges possible?



Breitbart under Trump: God Emperor Trump  authorized the removal of 100 ISIS 
top leaders in his first act as Commander in Chief. Rumors of ISIS surrender. 
Barack Obama potentially one of the dead operatives.



On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com 
<mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I'm all for it.  I think that everyone is probably just impressed by the first 
white house press briefing and the remarks at Langley.  What an amazing public 
speaker this one is.  Have you ever had a friend or friend's uncle or something 
who did too much meth?  You know how they start out with one sentence and then 
before you know it they have told fifteen other stories before they ever get to 
the point...if they ever do???  We have four years of that to look forward to.  
Just watch the full speech at the CIA, you will see what I mean.  Or 
don'tsave yourself the pain.



On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com 
<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com> > wrote:

Can we talk about politics yet? :P









--

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Im pretty confident the next few days is setting the stage to effectively
shutting down "media access". Im all for it in the current environment.
Between press releases, Publicly accessible data, FOIA responses, live
streamed events, and one on one interviews (and yes...twitter) the press
really is the dialup internet method of getting information. We know more
in real time then the press could ever package up and present. The current
mindset of media in press conferences is that of militants (both sides of
the media isle) and there is zero professionalism from either one. Neither
really gives a damn what the answer is anyway, theyre going to report
whatever their preconceived response was either way.

Question: Did we send B52 Bombers to hit an ISIS target?

Answer: Yes

CNN under Obama: Obama authorizes successful airstrike removing 100 ISIS
fighters in final days of his presidency. This act ensures that those who
would commit terror will be addressed accordingly, even during the
transition of power.

Breitbart under Obama: Obama, the snake furthers military conflict day
before leaving office, leaving all Americans at risk during a tumultuous
time of transition. Kills 100, ensuring a retaliatory response.

Had the same attack been authorized today:

CNN under Trump: MILITARY FIASCO: Trump bombs random targets. Top military
officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, refuse to verify there were
no civilian casualties, at least 100 confirmed dead. War crime charges
possible?

Breitbart under Trump: God Emperor Trump  authorized the removal of 100
ISIS top leaders in his first act as Commander in Chief. Rumors of ISIS
surrender. Barack Obama potentially one of the dead operatives.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> I'm all for it.  I think that everyone is probably just impressed by the
> first white house press briefing and the remarks at Langley.  What an
> amazing public speaker this one is.  Have you ever had a friend or friend's
> uncle or something who did too much meth?  You know how they start out with
> one sentence and then before you know it they have told fifteen other
> stories before they ever get to the point...if they ever do???  We have
> four years of that to look forward to.  Just watch the full speech at the
> CIA, you will see what I mean.  Or don'tsave yourself the pain.
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>> Can we talk about politics yet? :P
>>
>
>


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If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Jeremy]

I'm all for it.  I think that everyone is probably just impressed by the
first white house press briefing and the remarks at Langley.  What an
amazing public speaker this one is.  Have you ever had a friend or friend's
uncle or something who did too much meth?  You know how they start out with
one sentence and then before you know it they have told fifteen other
stories before they ever get to the point...if they ever do???  We have
four years of that to look forward to.  Just watch the full speech at the
CIA, you will see what I mean.  Or don'tsave yourself the pain.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Josh Reynolds 
wrote:

> Can we talk about politics yet? :P
>

[AFMUG] [OT: Politics] Can we?

[Josh Reynolds]

Can we talk about politics yet? :P