[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with margin note
I am curious about the margin note under Manuel's name. Does it indicate that he married in 1875? And where? I have found his passport application in 1880 that indicates he was married at that time, so I believe he married before he emigrated to Hawaii. Manuel, right side, bottom entry http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1850- 1860/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1850-1860_item1/P97.html Thanks for any help, Erica Botelho -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA topic - for users of GedMatch.com
Some people have been talking about an email they got from GedMatch.com. I did not receive that email but when I logged in, saw a few things differently in reference to the email that some people got. Basically they are allowing a new feature, or new features which are triangulation and a tool that allows you to build a person's genome based on other family members. In order to get access to these new features, you would have to donate at least $10 which would give you access to these special additional features for a month. If you see after you log in, that under your name it says Tier 1, you'll know that at the bottom of the page you have access to those special utilities. Since my father isn't alive, I would be able to reconstruct his genome (partially) by using his sister's DNA that I managed to extract and my own and my brothers once I get them tested. I would probably be able to use any other relative on my father's side but then you tend to get a less accurate genome of that person. It's best to get the children of that one person. Getting the siblings could be another alternative but then you're really leaving it up to randomness. Kalani -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Price Reduction - Transferring from AncestryDNA (Ancestry.com) and 23andMe (v.3 chip) to Family Tree DNA
Hi Cheri, Maybe, you can clarify, something for me. I want to test my DNA. Ancestry,is still advertising, but I have seen posts, that they dumped results and no longer going to offer DNA testing. So, I'm torn between Ancestry, which I belong to or Family Tree. Have, you heard about any upcoming sales? Thanks, Nancy -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal
My goal Doug is through DNA to obtain clues about the ancestral Village, Town or City of my ancestors prior to settling in the Azores I predict interest will increase in this area and there will be some format to share and discuss this information with others that are interested. I have some good clues already that indicate that my direct paternal ancestor that settled on Pico in the 1500's was from Porto, it is important that more people of Azorean ancestry test to give us more clues but we will get a clearer picture when more Portuguese from the Mainland test On Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:33:01 PM UTC-7, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: Antonio, Your point is excellent. I have a cousin of a cousin by marriage (if you can follow that one!) who did Y-DNA testing and has no matches from his mainland Portuguese ancestry. Of course, it's no surprise. But if we are to have any chance at finding family connections to mainland people, DNA is the only way. I will point this out in the Portuguese Genealogy group on Facebook, where we have about 250 or so members and growing (but not growing as fast as the Azores group) and I think it could have some impact. Similarly, I recently was invited to join a Facebook group of people with Madalena, Pico ancestry and found I am related to them all (over 100 members of that group) and slowly working on convincing them to test. The answer is always to get more to test, so that's what I work on. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal From: A Faria antoni...@gmail.com javascript: Date: Sat, October 18, 2014 3:54 pm To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: That's too bad about the Portugal DNA project, I realize that the biggest chunk of FTDNA samples are from North America there is a good sized Continental Portuguese community in the US in New Jersey, New York . There is a lot of potential samples there. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal
Antonio,I share your goal.I spent last night writing an article about this conversation and topic. I will submit it to a Portuguese newspaper and hope they decide to use it. That will surely help our cause.I can send you the article if you like.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal From: A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com Date: Sun, October 19, 2014 8:58 am To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: antoniof1...@gmail.com My goal Doug is through DNA to obtain clues about the ancestral Village, Town or City of my ancestors prior to settling in the Azores I predict interest will increase in this area and there will be some format to share and discuss this information with others that are interested. I have some good clues already that indicate that my direct paternal ancestor that settled on Pico in the 1500's was from Porto, it is important that more people of Azorean ancestry test to give us more clues but we will get a clearer picture when more Portuguese from the Mainland testOn Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:33:01 PM UTC-7, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote:Antonio,Your point is excellent.I have a cousin of a cousin by marriage (if you can follow that one!) who did Y-DNA testing and has no matches from his mainland Portuguese ancestry. Of course, it's no surprise. But if we are to have any chance at finding family connections to mainland people, DNA is the only way. I will point this out in the Portuguese Genealogy group on Facebook, where we have about 250 or so members and growing (but not growing as fast as the Azores group) and I think it could have some impact.Similarly, I recently was invited to join a Facebook group of people with Madalena, Pico ancestry and found I am related to them all (over 100 members of that group) and slowly working on convincing them to test.The answer is always to get more to test, so that's what I work on.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal
Antonio, You could get the Beleza study and see if that is helpful. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA topic - for users of GedMatch.com
Kalani; Thank you for clarify what so many people were talking about. I have to admit, I was in the dark about it all! Sam in Camas, WA Sent from Windows Mail From: Kalani N Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 8:14 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Some people have been talking about an email they got from GedMatch.com. I did not receive that email but when I logged in, saw a few things differently in reference to the email that some people got. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Margin notes
(Oops- I forgot to include the link first time I sent this request. thanks Cheri- On lower left, for GIL can anyone decipher the year this individual died. I read he died in parish of Sao Sebastao in Ponta Delgada and something about some fee and then a date but I can't figure out if it says 4 June !(?) the year. If I could figure the date and year, then I could search the obits in Sao Sebastiao. (At first I thought it said 1941- if so, then there's. O obits for that recent a date- if that what it says). Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879_item1/P622.html Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Price Reduction - Transferring from AncestryDNA (Ancestry.com) and 23andMe (v.3 chip) to Family Tree DNA
Nancy P, There are 4 types of testing for DNA on the market and 3 major DNA testing companies for DNA. 1) Y-DNA: Traces the father's father's father's line (top of the pedigree chart only). You must be a male or have a male relative take this test for you. Only Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) offers this test. 2) mtDNA: Traces the mother's mother's mother's line (bottom of the pedigree chart only). Both males and females can take this test. The information obtained is mainly anthropological in nature. It is best used in conjunction with another researcher. For example, if you and I thought that our mother's mother's mother's were sisters and we both took an mtDNA test and it matched, then yes, we can assume that the ancestors were sisters. Only FTDNA offers this test and only FTDNA offers to test the Full Genomic Sequence (which people should do it they ever hope to make a match with mtDNA). Actually, FTDNA was the only company that ever offered to test the Full Sequence. 3) Autosomal DNA X Chromosome: These 2 come together as a package deal. This covers ALL the lines of the testee back about 200 years. Family Tree DNA, Ancestry, and 23andMe offer this type of testing. The 3 major companies: 1) 23andMe: They were founded by Anna Wozniacki (former wife of Sergey Brin, one of the two Google founders) and Linda Avey. Anna's focus was medical. 23andMe offered a lot of health information. The technology that they used was created by Illumina on their chip. This chip also contained ancestry information. So 23 and Me offered both health and ancestry, but most people flocking to 23andMe were testing for the health results. The FDA decided that 23andMe should not be selling health information to the American public and they made 23andMe stop. 23andMe is attempting to comply with the FDA ruling so they can resume their health portion. They have just started launching their product in Canada and elsewhere in countries that don't have a problem with their people knowing if they may be predisposed to something. Just know that when signing up for 23andMe that you allow your DNA to be used for medical research. And they don't have to tell you if they are using it for Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, asthma, etc. I believe that if they do use your results for medical research that you are anonymous, but I'm not sure. I'd have to check on that. 2) Ancesty.com: Ancestry started off as a book publisher back in the day. Then with the advent of digitization, they really revolutionized the way that we research by digitizing records and making them available to us any time of the day with a subscription. In my opinion, they should have stopped there. It's what they do best. But they saw the power in DNA and attempted to buy various DNA companies so they could get a big database quickly. They bought out Relative Genetics, obtained Sorenson, and I don't remember who else. They did NOT make all those results public however, but claimed them in their numbers (both my dad and I tested at Sorenson and our DNA never showed up in Ancestry). When signing up for Ancestry, just know that you sign your DNA over to them. It's theirs. Not yours. They can do whatever they want with it. So when Ancestry decided that they were no longer interested in Y-DNA or mtDNA testing, they dumped the product and destroyed the samples. It was their DNA and they could do what they please. Kalani and I were both pulled by Ancestry last June. We both signed a non-disclosure agreement with Ancestry. Just let me say this: The way Ancestry handled the Y mtDNA; the way I've seen their reps at genealogy shows, knowing that they own your DNA, and having some knowledge of what is coming down the pike, it would be a very cold day in hell before I gave them my DNA. Oh yes, and they are traded on the New York Stock Exchange and must please those shareholders and make them money. 3) Family Tree DNA: Bennett Greenspan, founder of FTDNA had read the Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings DNA study. He wondered if DNA could help solve the mystery of a branch of his family in California matching some people in Argentina. After twisting Dr. Michael Hammer's arm at the University of Arizona to test the DNA, Dr. Hammer gave Bennett the idea to start a DNA testing company because Dr. Hammer got phone calls from crazy genealogists all the time. Bennett founded FTDNA in 2000 for the sole purpose of genealogy. They used the Hammer lab at the University of Arizona until a few years ago. FTDNA eventually built their own lab. With FTDNA, you own your DNA. You test your DNA and find out that Charles Manson is your 3rd cousin, twice removed, you can have FTDNA destroy your sample and remove your results from their database. They are not publicly traded. They have us admins helping them (we are all volunteer). By listening to their admins and customers, we have been able to push the geneticists to make new discoveries, find new markers, discover new
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Margin notes
June 15 1941 On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com wrote: (Oops- I forgot to include the link first time I sent this request. thanks Cheri- On lower left, for GIL can anyone decipher the year this individual died. I read he died in parish of Sao Sebastao in Ponta Delgada and something about some fee and then a date but I can't figure out if it says 4 June !(?) the year. If I could figure the date and year, then I could search the obits in Sao Sebastiao. (At first I thought it said 1941- if so, then there's. O obits for that recent a date- if that what it says). Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879_item1/P622.html Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA topic - for users of GedMatch.com
I met the GedMatch guys at the conference last weekend. They have been asking for donations but haven't been too successful. They can't run the site for free, so they are going to be doing this tiered thing. People who have donated in the past to them got to be first with these new features. I didn't remember them saying it was per month though. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with margin note
The notation refers to a certificate being extracted on 6 Sep 1875. Hermano From: audiosource...@qwestoffice.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with margin note Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 07:51:44 -0700 I am curious about the margin note under Manuel's name. Does it indicate that he married in 1875? And where? I have found his passport application in 1880 that indicates he was married at that time, so I believe he married before he emigrated to Hawaii. Manuel, right side, bottom entryhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1850-1860/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1850-1860_item1/P97.html Thanks for any help,Erica Botelho -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with margin note
Thanks Hermano! From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hermano C. Pires Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:44 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with margin note The notation refers to a certificate being extracted on 6 Sep 1875. Hermano _ From: audiosource...@qwestoffice.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with margin note Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 07:51:44 -0700 I am curious about the margin note under Manuel's name. Does it indicate that he married in 1875? And where? I have found his passport application in 1880 that indicates he was married at that time, so I believe he married before he emigrated to Hawaii. Manuel, right side, bottom entry http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1850- 1860/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1850-1860_item1/P97.html Thanks for any help, Erica Botelho -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA topic - for users of GedMatch.com
Some who got the email about it posted what it said about the month. TIER 1 ANNOUNCEMENT TO FORMER GEDMATCH DONORS. I am writing to thank you once again for the support you have given to GEDmatch. I am also writing to announce that GEDmatch has recently instituted a program called Tier 1 that will provide new tools, many of which we could not previously make available due to their expense and large data requirements. Tier 1 will also provide financial stability necessary for our rapid growth. While there is a membership fee of $10 per month for Tier 1, please be assured that our basic services will remain outside of Tier 1 and will remain free to all users. In appreciation for your previous donations, we are making Tier 1 available to you at no expense for a limited period of time. Your free membership in Tier 1 begins now and will remain in effect for the number of months equal to the total donations you have made to GEDmatch since January 1, 2013, divided by $10. If you are receiving this email, you should also see a new box on your GEDmatch home page titled 'Tier 1'. It contains links to programs that are not available to non-Tier 1 GEDmatch users. Since Tier 1 memberships are based on email addresses it is possible that we may be missing some of your donations if you have used another email address in making a donation or mailed a check during this period. If this is the case, please notify us of this at: GEDmatch Thank you for your continuing support GEDmatch Administrators received the following email from GEDMatch today: On Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:39:23 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: I met the GedMatch guys at the conference last weekend. They have been asking for donations but haven't been too successful. They can't run the site for free, so they are going to be doing this tiered thing. People who have donated in the past to them got to be first with these new features. I didn't remember them saying it was per month though. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal
Sure I would like to see your article. I think people will become more comfortable with DNA testing over time it is already is a household word there is even an ad on TV now for some headphones called DNA. DNA testing for those interested in genealogy is catching on rather quickly now, perhaps a little slower in the Portuguese community because our people tend to save their money and aren't likely to spend on DNA testing unless they understand the benefits. On Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:40:30 AM UTC-7, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: Antonio, I share your goal. I spent last night writing an article about this conversation and topic. I will submit it to a Portuguese newspaper and hope they decide to use it. That will surely help our cause. I can send you the article if you like. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal From: A Faria antoni...@gmail.com javascript: Date: Sun, October 19, 2014 8:58 am To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Cc: antoni...@gmail.com javascript: My goal Doug is through DNA to obtain clues about the ancestral Village, Town or City of my ancestors prior to settling in the Azores I predict interest will increase in this area and there will be some format to share and discuss this information with others that are interested. I have some good clues already that indicate that my direct paternal ancestor that settled on Pico in the 1500's was from Porto, it is important that more people of Azorean ancestry test to give us more clues but we will get a clearer picture when more Portuguese from the Mainland test On Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:33:01 PM UTC-7, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: Antonio, Your point is excellent. I have a cousin of a cousin by marriage (if you can follow that one!) who did Y-DNA testing and has no matches from his mainland Portuguese ancestry. Of course, it's no surprise. But if we are to have any chance at finding family connections to mainland people, DNA is the only way. I will point this out in the Portuguese Genealogy group on Facebook, where we have about 250 or so members and growing (but not growing as fast as the Azores group) and I think it could have some impact. Similarly, I recently was invited to join a Facebook group of people with Madalena, Pico ancestry and found I am related to them all (over 100 members of that group) and slowly working on convincing them to test. The answer is always to get more to test, so that's what I work on. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal
Hi all, I may also help with my side of the plan.. Those that use tombo.pt must have seen the FTDNA link that I recently added to the left sidebar in the site. I'm an affiliate of FTDNA, meaning that any sales lead that I generate will earn me 5% of the 'sale'. That is, if you buy a test in FTDNA after following that link, and that test costs you $100, FTDNA pays me $5. I believe that any serious genealogist researching in Portugal visits my site several times per week. It's a bit different for the Azores (considering there's only 3 or 4 parishes remaining, and you get the news of their availability faster via this group), and Madeira (where there hasn't been any news to report in more than a year). I'm in the process of making a front-page article (in Portuguese) explaining what Genetic Genealogy is, with links back to FTDNA. It will both help me personally, as I'm 100% mainland and I have 1-2 significant FF matches, and financially (running the site costs money, not to mention the time I put in it). If it works, we should see some more matches popping up. João C. Ventura http://tombo.pt/en On Sunday, 19 October 2014 18:40:30 UTC+2, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: Antonio, I share your goal. I spent last night writing an article about this conversation and topic. I will submit it to a Portuguese newspaper and hope they decide to use it. That will surely help our cause. I can send you the article if you like. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal From: A Faria antoni...@gmail.com javascript: Date: Sun, October 19, 2014 8:58 am To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Cc: antoni...@gmail.com javascript: My goal Doug is through DNA to obtain clues about the ancestral Village, Town or City of my ancestors prior to settling in the Azores I predict interest will increase in this area and there will be some format to share and discuss this information with others that are interested. I have some good clues already that indicate that my direct paternal ancestor that settled on Pico in the 1500's was from Porto, it is important that more people of Azorean ancestry test to give us more clues but we will get a clearer picture when more Portuguese from the Mainland test On Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:33:01 PM UTC-7, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: Antonio, Your point is excellent. I have a cousin of a cousin by marriage (if you can follow that one!) who did Y-DNA testing and has no matches from his mainland Portuguese ancestry. Of course, it's no surprise. But if we are to have any chance at finding family connections to mainland people, DNA is the only way. I will point this out in the Portuguese Genealogy group on Facebook, where we have about 250 or so members and growing (but not growing as fast as the Azores group) and I think it could have some impact. Similarly, I recently was invited to join a Facebook group of people with Madalena, Pico ancestry and found I am related to them all (over 100 members of that group) and slowly working on convincing them to test. The answer is always to get more to test, so that's what I work on. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal
Cheri, I have looked at a link about the Beleza study but I haven't noticed the Y-DNA STR Markers listed. I have attached the link perhaps I'm missing something. Didn't realize that I could look at the STR Markers from the samples from that study. Perhaps someone is aware of a different link containing more detailed information. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./j.1529-8817.2005.00221.x/full -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FELICIANO
Reposting as I made an error in original post re Joao Jacinto do Couto- JR http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1870-1874/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1870-1874_item1/P11.html http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fculturacores.azores.gov.pt%2Fbiblioteca_digital%2FSMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1870-1874%2FSMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1870-1874_item1%2FP11.htmlsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGjyeGZN2DKwHfDjUxExTpFC7bzGw Vila Franca Sao Miguel (VFSM), Aug 29- 1870 Joao Jacinto Feliciano cc Maria do Rosario. He is 23 yrs old, pedreiro, nat, res and bap VFSM, son of Jose Jacinto and Umbelina da Conceicao; she is 21 yrs old, living in parents house, nat,and bap VFSM, daughter of Joao Jacinto do Couto and Felicissima do Coracao do Jesus http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P155.html http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fculturacores.azores.gov.pt%2Fbiblioteca_digital%2FSMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856%2FSMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1%2FP155.htmlsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFtNNeMFIe7Ku53BbeD8vxWIP6ULA VFSM- June 1- 1848, Joao Jacinto cc Felicissima do Coracao do Jesus; he is son of Manuel do Couto and Francisca de Jesus, deceased; she is daughter of Antonio Joaquim Serpa, deceased and Claudina Maria, both natives VFSM http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P118.html Sept 14- 1845, Jose Jacinto cc Umbelina da Conceicao; He is son of Januario Francisco and Maria Francisca; she is daughter of Jacinto Jose and Mariana Claudina, natives and residents VFSM On Saturday, October 18, 2014 1:23:28 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote: Shirly Allegre, Cheri, Joe and someone else on this list is related to this line also. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Pam Santos pamsa...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Umbelina da Conceicao was my kids 3rd great aunt. Her sister Maria Libania was their 3rd great grandmother. Attached is her ancestors. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, JR jmr...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1870-1874/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1870-1874_item1/P11.html Vila Franca Sao Miguel (VFSM), Aug 29- 1870 Joao Jacinto Feliciano cc Maria do Rosario. He is 23 yrs old, pedreiro, nat, res and bap VFSM, son of Jose Jacinto and Umbelina da Conceicao; she is 21 yrs old, living in parents house, nat,and bap VFSM, daughter of Jose Jacinto do Couto and Felicissima do Coracao do Jesus http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P155.html http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fculturacores.azores.gov.pt%2Fbiblioteca_digital%2FSMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856%2FSMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1%2FP155.htmlsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFtNNeMFIe7Ku53BbeD8vxWIP6ULA VFSM- June 1- 1848, Joao Jacinto cc Felicissima do Coracao do Jesus; he is son of Manuel do Couto and Francisca de Jesus, deceased; she is daughter of Antonio Joaquim Serpa, deceased and Claudina Maria, both natives VFSM http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1836-1856_item1/P118.html Sept 14- 1845, Jose Jacinto cc Umbelina da Conceicao; He is son of Januario Francisco and Maria Francisca; she is daughter of Jacinto Jose and Mariana Claudina, natives and residents VFSM JR On Friday, October 17, 2014 2:37:05 PM UTC-4, Hermano C. Pires wrote: That is pretty sketchy. Any details? Hermano -- Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:19:26 -0700 From: harryq...@gmail.com To: azo...@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] FELICIANO Searching for info on Joao Feliciano family from San Miguel, Azores in late 1800s to Hawaii. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at
[AZORES-Genealogy] note on side margin
On lower left, for GIL Can anyone decipher the year this individual (GIL) died. I read he died in the parish of Sao Sebastao in Ponta Delgada and something about a fee and then a date but I can't figure out if it says 4 June !(?) the year.(At first I thought it said 1941 but I hope I'm wrong because there are no obits for that year on the CCA. ) Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. (I sent this email before but forgot to include the link.) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879_item1/P622.html Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genere file (priest application) on Family Search
I saved this email to search later. I tried to find these records on Family Search but keep getting no results found. I'm sure it is a matter of putting in the correct search terms. Can you give me the search terms you used to find the records? Thanks. Lisa -Original Message- From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, Oct 3, 2014 7:25 pm Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genere file (priest application) on Family Search Dick Eastman gets the updates from Family Search. The other day, Family Search uploaded more records. Montana, Ohio, Philippines, etc. Then it listed Portugal and said Priest Applications! But for Braga. I looked anyways, and I found a priest from Flores. Not too sure what it all says, but maybe one of you can figure it out. http://goo.gl/SPUQxy -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: note on side margin
I think it says 18 August either 1868 or 1878 very hard to decipher. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: note on side margin
It has to be 1878 as that is the year of the baptism. The baptism is in the month of August of 1878 and the birth was in the month of July is what I am seeing in this record, so it would have been hard for him to die in 1868. My Portuguese reading skills are not very good, but I think I am reading it correctly. On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 6:07 PM, A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote: I think it says 18 August either 1868 or 1878 very hard to decipher. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] note on side margin
Maria Elena, I read 15 June 1942. Hermano Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] note on side margin From: maria.lima...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:32:18 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com On lower left, for GIL Can anyone decipher the year this individual (GIL) died. I read he died in the parish of Sao Sebastao in Ponta Delgada and something about a fee and then a date but I can't figure out if it says 4 June !(?) the year.(At first I thought it said 1941 but I hope I'm wrong because there are no obits for that year on the CCA. ) Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. (I sent this email before but forgot to include the link.) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879_item1/P622.html Maria Elena -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genere file (priest application) on Family Search
Lisa, I clicked on the link and it appears. I'm not too sure how I found this priest from Flores in the Braga records. He was the only Azorean priest if I remember correctly. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Clarification of meaning on baptism
The refenced baptism (#49 lower left, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1890-1894/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1890-1894_item1/P54.html ) has two godparents I am interest in. I'm assuming that the godparents are married, but not to each other? Jose da Silva de Vasconcellos and Maria Victoria do Conde are not married? Sorry for what be an obvious question, but I'm new to reading records myself and need a little concurrence. Thank you! Bill -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Information Bartolomeu Gil
Hi I am looking for information about Bartolomeu Gil-112493 (1640-1687) and Maria Nunes-112494 (MRIN:48550) on 6 Jun 1707 in São Roque, Altares, Terceira, Açores. Does anyone know more information to help me? Than you Paulo André -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal
She co-authored several studies. Send me an email reminder directly to gfscherim at gmail.com in about a week. I'll see if I can find it. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Clarification of meaning on baptism
Bill, I read this the same as you. The two godparents are not married to each other. Erica From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:42 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Clarification of meaning on baptism The refenced baptism (#49 lower left, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1890 -1894/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1890-1894_item1/P54.html ) has two godparents I am interest in. I'm assuming that the godparents are married, but not to each other? Jose da Silva de Vasconcellos and Maria Victoria do Conde are not married? Sorry for what be an obvious question, but I'm new to reading records myself and need a little concurrence. Thank you! Bill -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal
Okay thanks I think that study has STR Marker results for 600 men from Mainland Portugal from various regions don't know how many markers they tested. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Price Reduction - Transferring from AncestryDNA (Ancestry.com) and 23andMe (v.3 chip) to Family Tree DNA
Hi Cheri, Thanks, for helping me to decide which test I will buy. I'm, holding out for the sale, on Family Tree. Deciding factor, is the Azores project. Take care, Nancy -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genere file (priest application) on Family Search
I believe one of the documents states that he was a resident of Braga at the time of documentation. On Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:05:56 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Lisa, I clicked on the link and it appears. I'm not too sure how I found this priest from Flores in the Braga records. He was the only Azorean priest if I remember correctly. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal
Congratulations on your affiliate status, Joao.I do hope it helps to generate both the money it takes to run a website and especially to get more people in Portugal to test their DNA.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA matches that link the Azores to Mainland Portugal From: João_Ventura j...@venturas.org Date: Sun, October 19, 2014 2:16 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: antoniof1...@gmail.com Hi all,I may also help with my side of the plan.. Those that use tombo.pt must have seen the FTDNA link that I recently added to the left sidebar in the site. I'm an affiliate of FTDNA, meaning that any sales lead that I generate will earn me 5% of the 'sale'. That is, if you buy a test in FTDNA after following that link, and that test costs you $100, FTDNA pays me $5. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Clarification of meaning on baptism
Thank you Erica. Bill On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:06 PM, Erica Botelho audiosource...@qwestoffice.net wrote: Bill, I read this the same as you. The two godparents are not married to each other. Erica From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:42 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Clarification of meaning on baptism The refenced baptism (#49 lower left, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1890-1894/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1890-1894_item1/P54.html ) has two godparents I am interest in. I'm assuming that the godparents are married, but not to each other? Jose da Silva de Vasconcellos and Maria Victoria do Conde are not married? Sorry for what be an obvious question, but I'm new to reading records myself and need a little concurrence. Thank you! Bill -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Clarification of meaning on baptism
That's right, the godparents are not necessarily married to each other when it states they are marrie;, and *most* of the time, when they are married, this is written out, but not always. So watch for that. JR On Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:06:50 PM UTC-4, audiosourceinc wrote: Bill, I read this the same as you. The two godparents are not married to each other. Erica *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *Sent:* Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:42 PM *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Clarification of meaning on baptism The refenced baptism (#49 lower left, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1890-1894/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1890-1894_item1/P54.html ) has two godparents I am interest in. I'm assuming that the godparents are married, but not to each other? Jose da Silva de Vasconcellos and Maria Victoria do Conde are not married? Sorry for what be an obvious question, but I'm new to reading records myself and need a little concurrence. Thank you! Bill -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
