[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Feliz Natal / Boas Festas thread (use this one only)

[mances]

Feliz Natal e Boas Festas!
>
>
Manoel César Furtado
Researching: São Miguel, Santa Maria, Terceira, Pico, Faial e Flores.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lima/Resendes Baptism in Sao Pedro church of Vila Franca on Sao Miguel island

[mances]

Cipriano do Amaral.
The priest made a confusion with the letters l and r.

Manoel

Em sexta-feira, 29 de setembro de 2017 18:01:58 UTC-3, Cheri Mello escreveu:
>
> Ignacio on the bottom left, 9th line. It's saying his godparents were José 
> Ignacio, son of the family of Capt. Cipriano __ and of his wife, Josepha 
> Maria.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-B-1750-1776/SMG-VF-SAOPEDRO-B-1750-1776_item1/P155.html
>
> Thanks!! Cheri
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores: Translation & Research Da Costa Furtado & De Jesus Oliviera Family Help!

[mances]

Hi Jennifer,

I've done some research on your ancestors and we have more than one 
connection as 4th cousins.

See below what I have found about your Furtado's lineage.

Manoel

 

 

1. *Antonio da Costa Vieira x Francisca de Jesus* – married in Rosário da 
Lagoa on 23 feb 1881 – CCA #36 (58)

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1880-1889/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1880-1889_item1/P58.html

 

. He was 27, born in Matriz de Santa Cruz da Lagoa, son of João da Costa, 
from Matriz da Lagoa, and Isabel Candida, from Matriz da Ribeira Grande.

Antonio was born on 23 march 1853 in Matriz da Lagoa – CCA #94. Godparent: 
Morgado Pedro Jácome Raposo Bicudo Correia, from Matriz de Ponta Delgada.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-B-1851-1855/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-B-1851-1855_item1/P94.html

 

. She was 24, born in Rosário da Lagoa, daughter of Manuel de Medeiros 
Santos and Maria Ricarda, from Rosário da Lagoa.

 

2. *João da Costa x Isabel Candida* – married in Rosario da Lagoa on 14 apr 
1852 – CCA #367 (368)

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1832-1853/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1832-1853_item1/P368.html

 

. He was documented in his marriage record as José Henriques da Costa, and 
he was the son of Henrique da Costa and Ana Furtado, baptized in Matriz da 
Lagoa.

João was born in Matriz da Lagoa on 26 may 1831 – CCA #265 (266), the son 
of Henrique da Costa native of Rosario da Lagoa, and Ana de Jesus native of 
Matriz da Lagoa.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-B-1825-1832/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-B-1825-1832_item1/P266.html

 

. She was the daughter of Joaquim Vieira and Francisca de Jesus, baptized 
in Matriz da Ribeira Grande.

 

 

3. *Henrique José (da Costa) x Ana de Jesus (Furtado) *– married in Matriz 
da Lagoa on 15 may 1820 – CCA #206

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1781-1820/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1781-1820_item1/P206.html

 

. He was native of Rosario da Lagoa, son of João da Costa and Ana Maria, 
from Rosario da Lagoa.

 

. She was native of Matriz da Lagoa, dau. of João Furtado and Maria Rosa, 
from Matriz da Lagoa.

 

 

4. *João Furtado x Maria Rosa* – married in Matriz da Lagoa on 9 oct 1798 – 
CCA #81

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1781-1820/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1781-1820_item1/P81.html

 

. He was native of Rosario da Lagoa, son of Matias Furtado (deceased) and 
Maria Inácia, from Rosario da Lagoa.

 

. She was native of Matriz da Lagoa, dau. of Francisco de Viveiros and Ana 
Maria (both deceased), from Matriz da Lagoa.

 

 

5. *Matias Furtado x Maria Inácia Tavares* – married in Rosario da Lagoa in 
1 jan 1775 – CCA #39 (40)

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1770-1799/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1770-1799_item1/P40.html

 

. He was native of Mãe de Deus, Povoação, son of José Furtado and Teresa de 
Pimentel, from Povoação.

 

. She was native of Rosario da Lagoa, dau. of Manuel de Sousa Barbosa and 
Maria de Sousa Tavares, from Rosario da Lagoa. 

 

 

6. *José Furtado x Teresa de Pimentel* – married in São Jorge, Nordeste, on 
28 sep 1732 – CCA #105-106

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1707-1743/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1707-1743_item1/P105.html

 

. He was the son of Antonio Correia  (deceased) and Maria Furtado, from 
Povoação.

 

. She was the dau. of Antonio Carreiro Pimentel and Maria Rebelo, from 
Nordeste.

 

 

 

 

 

Em sexta-feira, 14 de julho de 2017 00:35:52 UTC-3, Jennifer Furtado 
escreveu:
>
> Hi Manoel,
>
> You were right. My Dads Cousin went to Lagoa and that church and was able 
> to confirm. Very interesting. Were you able to put the connection of us as 
> 4th Cousins? 
>
> Jennifer Furtado
>
> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 1:04:06 PM UTC-5, mances wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jennifer,
>>
>> We are related according to the Family Finder as 4th cousins!
>>
>>
>> I think your ancestor Antonio da Costa Furtado also went by Antonio da 
>> Costa Vieira.
>>
>>
>> Here's what I have found about him:
>>
>> Antonio da Costa Vieira x Francisca de Jesus – married in Rosário da 
>> Lagoa on 23 feb 1881 – CCA #36 (58)
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1880-1889/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1880-1889_item1/P58.html
>>
>>
>> 1. He was 27, born in Matriz de Santa Cruz da Lagoa, son of João da 
>> Costa, from Matriz da Lagoa, and Isabel Candida, from Matriz da Ribeira 
>> Grande.
>>
>> Antonio was born on 23 march 1853 in Matriz da Lagoa – CCA #94. 
>> Godparent: Morgado Pedro Jácome Raposo Bicudo Correia, from Matriz de Ponta 
>> Delgada.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digita

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rego Baldaias of Lagoa

[mances]

Sam,

 The marriage records for Fenais da Luz before 1687 are lost, so there's no 
way to know the parents of Bartolomeu Afonso Travassos. Unfortunately 
there's no notarial record to clarify the question either.

Manoel

Em quarta-feira, 19 de julho de 2017 15:39:44 UTC-3, Sam (Camas, WA) 
escreveu:
>
> Manoel;  I have a Diogo Goncalves Travassos married to a Violante Velho 
> Cabral.  His parents were Martin Goncalves Travassos and Catarina Dias de 
> Mello.  Diogo and Violante’s son was Nuno Velho Cabral de Travassos married 
> to  Isabel Alfonso and then to Africa Anes.  
>
>  
>
> Do you know if these people are tied into your tree below?  (*Bartolomeu 
> Afonso Travassos)*
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sam (Camas, WA)
>
>  
>
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rego Baldaias of Lagoa

[mances]

You are welcome John.

I will be glad to receive the informations from your cousin about this 
lineage. I descend from Gonçalo do Rego, o Velho, through four lines at 
least.

Manoel

Em terça-feira, 18 de julho de 2017 17:00:50 UTC-3, John Raposo escreveu:
>
> Thank you, Manuel, for sharing your research with us. I hope that I can 
> return the kindness sometime. 
>
> Several years ago, my cousin Diana Cestodio Silva self published her 
> research on the descendants of Vital do Rego Baldaia and Jorge do Rego 
> Baldaia. I am going to forward your e-mail to her; she may have some 
> information that might be of interest. She'll be happy to know that your 
> extensive research has confirmed her claim that Vital and Joseph were one 
> and the same and that he is the son of Belchior and Maria Franca. At times 
> it became a hotly debated point of contention.
>
> Thank you again for your generosity.
>
> John Miranda Raposo
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rego Baldaias of Lagoa

[mances]

John,

José do Rego died on 20 March 1701 - CCA #130 -  Rosário da Lagoa.

Manoel

Em segunda-feira, 17 de julho de 2017 11:49:36 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>
> I didn't have Vital's baptism or Obito. Thanks for the information Manoel.
>
> JR
>
> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 10:32:37 AM UTC-4, JR wrote:
>>
>> Not directly. But of course they have common ancestor, Gaspar Baldaia do 
>> Rego and Clara de Vasconcelos..
>>
>> Correction for previous post: All six marriages of children reference 
>> Jose do Rego as father. Seven baptisms reference Vital do Rego; Four 
>> baptisms reference Jose do Rego as father.
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 10:11:10 AM UTC-4, Richard Francis Pimentel 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> *Do these Rego Baldaia’s tie into the ones in Ribeira Grande? My 9th 
>>> great grandfather is Ignacio do Rego Baldaia, he married Maria Alveres 
>>> Senra sometime around 1630.*
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *Rick*
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On 
>>> Behalf Of *JR
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 17, 2017 9:57 AM
>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy
>>> *Cc:* marr...@yahoo.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rego Baldaias of Lagoa
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Thanks John. Some of the baptisms even reference the spouse as Anna 
>>> Henriques. Four of the children's marriages reference Jose do Rego as 
>>> father. Only one references Vital do Rego as father. Seven baptisms 
>>> reference Vital Rego as father; four reference Jose do Rego. One thing is 
>>> certain, there are no others in Lagoa with these names in the same time 
>>> period.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 7:41:32 AM UTC-4, John Raposo wrote:
>>>
>>> This is one of those controversial lineages. I (and most of the 
>>> genealogists that I have consulted both in the US and in the Azores) agree 
>>> that Jose and Vital are one and the same person. However, whenever I do 
>>> research that involves this family, I always add a footnote. After all the 
>>> time that has passed, I doubt that we'll ever have proof one way or the 
>>> other.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Sorry I cannot be of more help.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 17, 2017 1:09 AM, JR  wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Does anyone have information on the Rego Baldaia's of Lagoa? I am 
>>> specifically trying to determine if Vital do Rego is same person as Jose do 
>>> Rego. They both married a Maria Henriques in the same time period, about 
>>> Jan 6- 1658, in Rosario, Lagoa. My feeling is they are the same person. He 
>>> is son of Belchior do Rego Baldaia and Maria Franco, married Feb 22- 1622, 
>>> Rosario de Lagoa. You can post or send me a PM.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Thanks, JR (John Roias) 
>>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rego Baldaias of Lagoa

[mances]

John,

I descend from José (Vital) do Rego and Maria Henriques;

I believe that José and Vital are the same person. Here are my notes on him:

"José do Rego foi também conhecido como Vital do Rego. Foi batizado com o 
nome de Vital e o usou até 1672. A partir desta data o seu nome na 
documentação paroquial sempre aparece como José do Rego. 

Batismo - n. 8.8.1637 e b. 15.8.1637 - CCA #67. Vital (Vitales) filho de 
Belchior Baldaia e Maria Franco. Pd: Gregório da Ponte e Beatriz de 
Medeiros mulher de Pedro Teixeira)
Casamento - 6.1.1658 - CCA #119. Vital do Rego e Maria Henriques. Ele é 
filho de Belchior Baldaia do Rego e Maria Franco. Ela é filha de Francisco 
Jorge e Madalena Rebelo. 
Óbito - CCA #130. José do Rego casado com Maria Henriques. Não fez 
testamento por ser pobre. Foi sepultado na Ermida do Apóstolo São Pedro 
anexa a esta paroquial de N. S. do Rosário.

Filhos batizados no Rosário da Lagoa:
. Maria, b. 17.11.1658 - CCA #159. Filha de Vital do Rego e Maria 
Henriques. Pd: Manuel do Rego e sua irmã Isabel Raposo. (Rosário da Lagoa, 
17.4.1675 - CCA #170, óbito de Maria Franco filha de José do Rego que lhe 
mandou dizer 5 missas por sua alma).
. Francisco, b. 11.4.1660 - CCA #167. Filho de Vital do Rego e Maria 
Henriques. Pd: Francisco Rebelo e Maria da Costa. (Rosário da Lagoa, 
28.1.1690, casamento de Francisco do Rego filho de José do Rego e Maria 
Henriques com Isabel Fernandes filha de Miguel Roiz e Maria Fernandes).
. Isabel, b.  21.1.1663 - CCA #178. Filha de Vital do Rego e Ana (sic) 
Henriques. Pd: Capitão Manuel Rebelo, e Maria da Costa mulher de Manuel de 
Matos. (Rosário da Lagoa, 22.5.1685, casamento de Isabel do Rego filha de 
José do Rego e Maria Henriques com Manuel Travassos filho de Antonio 
Fernandes e Catarina Alves).
. Manuel, b.  24.2.1665 - CCA #13. Filho de Vital do Rego e Maria 
Henriques. Pd: Capitão Manuel Rebelo, e Maria Rebelo filha de Tomaz Rebelo.
. Ana, b. 16.1.1666 - CCA #24. Filha de Vital do Rego e Maria Henriques. 
Pd: Domingos Martins de Azevedo.
. Bárbara, b. 15.10.1669 - CCA #38. Filha de Vital do Rego e Ana (sic) 
Henriques. Pd: Manuel do Rego e Maria Rebelo filha de Tomaz Rebelo.
. Melchior, b. 10.4.1672 - CCA #53. Filho de Vital do Rego e Maria 
Henriques. Pd: Antonio Gouveia, barbeiro. 
. Sebastiana, b. 21.1.1675 - CCA #71. Filha de José do Rego e Maria 
Henriques. Pd: Manuel Lopes, sapateiro, e Ana do Rego filha de Antonio 
Pereira. (Obs.: Antonio Pereira filho de Manuel Pereira e Ana Fernandes 
casou com Isabel Raposo Baldaia filha de Belchior Baldaia do Rego e Maria 
Franco).
. Domingos, b. 27.5.1678 - CCA #96. Filho de José do Rego e Maria 
Henriques. Pd: Manuel Rebelo filho de Tomaz Rebelo. (Obs.: Tomaz Rebelo 
casou com Clara de Vasconcelos em 7.6.1648 - CCA #104 no Rosário da Lagoa. 
Ele é filho de Manuel Rebelo, sapateiro, e de Maria Roiz. Ela é filha de 
Belchior Baldaia do Rego e de Maria Franco).
. Francisca, b. 2.12.1681 - CCA #122. Filha de José do Rego e Maria 
Henriques. Pd: Manuel Rebelo filho de Francisco Rebelo, pescador.
. Simão, b. 2.11.1682 - CCA #127. Filho de José do Rego e Maria Henriques. 
Pd: Manuel de Medeiros filho de Mateus Barroso".


Manoel Cesar Furtado

Em segunda-feira, 17 de julho de 2017 02:09:37 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>
> Does anyone have information on the Rego Baldaia's of Lagoa? I am 
> specifically trying to determine if Vital do Rego is same person as Jose do 
> Rego. They both married a Maria Henriques in the same time period, about 
> Jan 6- 1658, in Rosario, Lagoa. My feeling is they are the same person. He 
> is son of Belchior do Rego Baldaia and Maria Franco, married Feb 22- 1622, 
> Rosario de Lagoa. You can post or send me a PM.
>
> Thanks, JR (John Roias) 
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Botelho de Lima married in Brazil

[mances]

João Botelho de Lima morou em São Paulo?

Do que pesquisei em Cravinhos nos paroquiais online no site do FamilySearch 
tenho o seguinte:

Casamento:
FS #22 - 25.4.1909 - João Botelho de Lima e Maria José, naturais da ilha de 
S. Miguel.
Ele, com 28 anos, filho de José Botelho de Lima e Antonia de Jesus.
Ela, com 20 anos, filha de João da Costa Escaler? e Maria da Trindade.
Test.: João Silvério de Oliveira e Manuel Alves de Oliveira

O sobrenome Lima desses nossos Botelhos vem de José de Lima avô materno de 
José Botelho de Lima, Este José de Lima foi batizado em São Pedro da 
Ribeira Grande em 17.2.1793 e descende de Domingos de Lima de Vila Franca 
do Campo nascido por volta de 1680, e foi casado com Maria Furtado de 
profícua ascendência na ilha. 
Nossos Botelhos da Lagoa têm origem em São Roque desde os 1600 e vêm por 
fêmea através de Luzia Botelho que consta das Genealogias de São Miguel de 
Rodrigo Rodrigues.

Manoel

Em terça-feira, 4 de julho de 2017 19:16:47 UTC-3, Cheri Mello escreveu:
>
> Repost for Maria Lara, misiaia at hotmail.com
>
> Ainda não tenho em mãos a certidão de casamento do João Botelho de Lima . 
> Mas como vc já viu eu fiz o pedido na igreja e tbm no cartorio. Tenho 
> certidão de nascimento, casamento e óbito de dona Delfina Botelho de Lima 
> filha do João ,que é a bisavó da minha filha e da avó Shirley que está 
> viva. Na certidão de nascimento diz que João nasceu em "1882". E tudo muito 
> confuso os sobrenomes mudam tbm. Rsrs
> Obrigada por enviar seu e-mail. Vamos ficar em contato . Quero tentar a 
> cidadania da minha filha. 
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Botelho de Lima married in Brazil

[mances]

Olá Maria Iara,

João Botelho de Lima é irmão do meu avô materno Francisco Botelho. João 
nasceu em 08.11.1879 (CCA #53) na ilha de São Miguel, freguesia do Rosário 
da Lagoa.
Escreva para o meu email (man...@gmail.com) e lhe enviarei tudo o que tenho 
até agora sobre os nossos Botelhos. É muito interessante essa linhagem, meu 
avô entronca em vários dos principais colonizadores da ilha de São Miguel.

Manoel César Furtado

Em terça-feira, 4 de julho de 2017 12:40:46 UTC-3, Cheri Mello escreveu:
>
> Repost for Maria Lara, misiaia at hotmail.com
> Ola , Eu encontrei a certidão de casamento de João Botelho de Lima que se 
> casou em 1909 em Cravinhos com dona Maria Jose . Ele é filho de José 
> Botelho de Lima e dona Antónia de Jesus ambos nascidos em Portugal . Estou 
> aguardando a certidão de casamento que já fiz o pedido na igreja de São 
> José em Cravinhos. Agora busco a certidão de Batismo de João Botelho de 
> Lima nascido em 1882. Provavelmente em açores. Ola Manoel minha filha 
> também faz parte dessa família . Vc poderia me ajudar com os DOCs que vc 
> conseguiu em açores. Pq os DOCs em Cravinhos já fiz os pedidos.
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas

[mances]

Current spelling:
"Passei certidão deste assento a Simão de Sousa a 10 de setembro de 1809 - 
Cura Meireles"

Manoel

Em terça-feira, 24 de janeiro de 2017 23:27:26 UTC-2, Joanne escreveu:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802_item1/P14.html
>
> Looking for help with what is written in the margin - it looks like it 
> could be her wedding to Simão de Souza but I’ve found that register entry 
> and the date doesn’t look like it would match. Also, these entries don’t 
> seem to contain the grandparents’ info - is that correct? Finally, is that 
> a title before the father’s first name or another name I’ve never seen 
> before? 
>
> Thanks in advance for the help! (as usual)
> Joanne Grota Mercier
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help - Apollina Augusta de Jesus birth & baptism Rabo de Peixe

[mances]

Joanne,

Francisca Candida de Lima is from Capelas.

Manoel

Em sábado, 21 de janeiro de 2017 20:19:09 UTC-2, Joanne escreveu:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1870-1879/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1870-1879_item1/P118.html
>
> This is the marriage entry of my great grandparents Manoel Martins de 
> Gouveia and Apollina Augusta de Jesus, daughter of Jose Pacheco de Faria 
> and Francesca Candida (de Souza). What I am trying to determine is where 
> Apollina (or Apolinaria as she is referred to in other documentation I 
> have) was born. I have combed the Rabo de Peixe baptisms from 1846 to 1860 
> and can’t find her so I’m thinking she may have been born and baptized 
> nearby. I can’t read the writing and can’t seem to make it darker on my end 
> so if someone can give it a go I’d appreciate the help. Since I just got 
> the results of my mtDNA back I’m really working on tracking down my 
> material lines. 
>
> Thanks in advance for the help!
> Joanne Grota Mercier
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretanha, Sao Miguel Marriage Record 1737

[mances]

Rick,

I descend from João da Rocha son of Ambrósio da Câmara and Maria da Costa. 
He married Maria de Medeiros Carneiro on 18 apr 1741 - CCA #55 in Bretanha, 

Ambrósio da Câmara was baptized in São José de Ponta Delgada on 7 apr 1683 
- CCA #102, "filho de pais não sabidos".

. Bretanha, 2.1.1728 - CCA #18, batismo de José e Silvestre, gêmeos, filhos 
de Ambrósio da Câmara, natural da freguesia de São José de Ponta Delgada, e 
de Maria da Costa, natural da Bretanha. Pd: Pedro de Viveiros, casado, e 
Ana de Medeiros mulher de Sebastião Simas, todos desta freguesia


Manoel César Furtado



Em terça-feira, 27 de dezembro de 2016 14:36:56 UTC-2, Richard Francis 
Pimentel escreveu:
>
> *John,*
>
>  
>
> *Thanks for the info on the line I had some of it but nothing like filling 
> in the blanks. *
>
>  
>
> *I believe Francisco da Rocha the brother of Maria Teresa da **Camara**/de 
> Aguiar?  He married Antonia de Oliveira in Bretanha 29 Oct 1746.  See 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779_item1/P77.html
>  
> 
>   
> Left side*
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
>  
>
>  
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MARQUES from Lagoa

[mances]

John and Eliseu,

I also descend from this line.

Baltazar de Morais and Bárbara Marques married in Matriz da Ribeira Grande 
on 1 feb 1630 - CCA #27.
See below.

It seems to me that this line of Marques in Lagoa came from Marcos 
Gonçalves from Ribeira Grande as a patronymic.


Manoel César Furtado


*Ahnentafel Chart for Bárbara Marques*

 

 

*First Generation*

 

  1.* Bárbara Marques * was born on 8 Feb 1640 in Matriz, Ribeira 
Grande. She died on 8 Feb 1679 in Rosario, Lagoa, São Miguel.

 

Batismo - CCA #220. Pd: João Ledo e Bárbara Lopes filha de Pedro Jorge.

Óbito - CCA #16

 

Bárbara married *Francisco Fragoso * son of Francisco Pereira and Ana 
Fragoso on 12 Jun 1662 in Rosario, Lagoa, São Miguel. Francisco was born 
about 1638 in Matriz, Lagoa, São Miguel. He died on 24 Mar 1699 in Rosario, 
Lagoa, São Miguel.

 

 

*Second Generation*

 

  2.* Baltazar de Morais * was born on 6 Jul 1603 in Matriz, Ribeira 
Grande. He died on 12 Sep 1686 in Rosario, Lagoa, São Miguel. He married 
Maria Marques on 1 Feb 1630 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande.

 

Batismo - CCA #4. Pd: Gaspar Diniz e a parteira Maria Gonçalves.

Casamento - CCA #27

Óbito - CCA #63. Sepultado na Ermida do Apóstolo São Pedro anexa à paroquia 
de N. S. do

Rosário.

 

Filhos batizados na Matriz da Ribeira Grande:

. Isabel, b. 1.11.1630 - CCA#48. Filha de Baltazar de Morais e Maria 
Marques. Pd: Gaspar

Fernandes e Catarina de Benevides.

. João, b. 4.9.1633 - CCA #104. Filho de Baltazar de Morais e Maria Viegas 
(sic). Pd: Antonio de

Amaral e Maria Pacheco filha de Belchior Roiz, todos moradores nesta 
freguesia.

. Maria, b. 20.5.1635 - CCA #131. Filha de Baltazar de Morais e Maria 
Viegas (sic). Pd: André

Pacheco filho de Pedro Fernandes, e Madalena Lopes filha de Pedro Jorge.

. Manuel, b. 6.4.1638 - CCA #184. Filho de Baltazar de Morais e Maria 
Marques. Pd: Lucas de

Almeida e Bárbara Lopes filha de Pedro Jorge. (Manuel Marques casou em 
novembro de 1665 em

São José de Ponta Delgada com Maria Correia, filha de Manuel Correia, 
ausente, e Madalena de

Mesas).

. Bárbara, b. 8.2.1640 - CCA #220. Pd: João Ledo e Bárbara Lopes filha de 
Pedro Jorge.

 

 

 

  3.* Maria Marques * was born on 1 Jun 1608 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. 
She died on 26 Aug 1685 in Rosario, Lagoa, São Miguel.

Também documentada como Maria Viegas.

Batismo - CCA #101. Pd: Miguel de Paiva e Isabel Gonçalves.

Óbito - CCA #52-53

 

 

 

*Third Generation*

 

  4.* Martim Álvares * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. He married 
Águeda Gaspar on 21 Mar 1594 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande.

 

Casamento - CCA #33

 

Filhos batizados na Matriz da Ribeira Grande:

. Isabel, b. 12.9.1600 - CCA #191. Pd: João Roiz e Maria Dias.

. Baltazar, b. 6.7.1603 - CCA #4. Pd: Gaspar Diniz e a parteira Maria 
Gonçalves.

. João, b. 31.12.1606 - CCA #74. Pd: Gaspar Diniz e Maria Ferreira.

 

 

  5.* Águeda Gaspar * was born on 2 Feb 1568 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande.

 

Batismo - CCA #62. Pd: Antonio Paes e Domingas Dias.

 

 

  6.* Baltazar Roiz * was born on 31 May 1569 in Matriz, Ribeira 
Grande. He married Maria Gonçalves on 30 Oct 1589 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande.

 

Batismo - CCA #88. Pd: Frutuoso Dias e Ana da Costa.

Casamento - CCA #15

 

Filhos batizados na Matriz da Ribeira Grande:

. Maria, b. 1.6.1608 - CCA #101. Pd: Miguel de Paiva e Isabel Gonçalves.

 

 

  7.* Maria Gonçalves * was born on 28 Dec 1573 in Matriz, Ribeira 
Grande.

 

Batismo - CCA #168. Pd: Frutuoso Dias e Inês Viegas.

 

 

 

*Fourth Generation*

 

  8.* Simão Álvares * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. He married 
Inês Jorge.

 

Morador na Ribeirinha.

 

Filhos batizados na Matriz da Ribeira Grande:

. ...? 1544? - CCA #34. Filho de Simão Álvares e Inês Jorge. Pd: Antonio de 
...?

. Gaspar, b. 5.1.1549 - CCA #92. Pd: Manuel? Pires, Rui Pires, ...? e Inês 
Álvares.

 

 

  9.* Inês Jorge * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. She died on 13 
Sep 1583 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande.

 

Óbito - CCA #28. Inês Jorge mulher de Simão Álvares, da Ribeirinha.

 

 

10.* Gaspar Gonçalves * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. He died 
after 1594. He married

Isabel Nunes on 30 Apr 1567 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande.

 

Casamento - CCA #38

 

Filhos batizados na Matriz da RibeiraGrande:

. Águeda, b. 2.2.1568 - CCA #62. Pd: Antonio Paes e Domingas Dias.

 

 

11.* Isabel Nunes * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. She died on 11 
Nov 1591 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande.

 

Óbito - CCA #67. Isabel Nunes mulher de Gaspar Gonçalves por alcunha "cega 
rego". Não fez

testamento e seu marido lhe mandou fazer um ofício de 3 lições.

 

 

12.* Tomé Roiz * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. He died after 
1589. He married Isabel Fernandes.

 

Filhos batizados na Matriz da Ribeira Grande:

. Maria, b. 30.5.1565 - CCA #23. Pd: Mécia da Costa e Domingas Dias.

. Ana, b. 17.2.1572 - CCA #134. Pd: Bartolomeu Caldeira e sua irmã Beatriz 
Correia.

. Adão, b. 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEW for those who tested Family Finder at FTDNA

[mances]

7% Metal Age, 58% Farmer, 33% Hunter-Gatherer, 2% Non-European

Manoel César Furtado

Paternal grandparents - ilha de São MIguel, Açores

Maternal grandfather - ilha de São Miguel, Açores
Maternal grandmother - mainland Portugal (Distrito de Viseu)

Em domingo, 13 de novembro de 2016 10:45:49 UTC-2, Cheri Mello escreveu:
>
> Hmmm, so far it looks as if we are more likely to be farmers if we are of 
> Portuguese descent.
>
> Thanks for posting the Armenian son-in-law for contrast, Susan.
> Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hawaii Help

[mances]

Cheri,

I'm not so sure. It seems that Antonia de Jesus and Antonia Martins are not 
the same person.
Antonia de Jesus was born in Livramento on 15 feb 1854 and there's no 
Martins among her ancestors.

Manoel

Em sexta-feira, 14 de outubro de 2016 19:35:46 UTC-3, Cheri Mello escreveu:
>
> Wow, Tony is lucky!! He matches you!!!
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 11:30 AM, mances <man...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Cheri,
>>
>> What a happy coincidence!
>> Antonia de Jesus, married to Manuel Pavão, is the sister of my 
>> great-grandfather Francisco Furtado who emigrated to Brazil in 1891!
>> Wow! I didn´t know she went to Hawaii. 
>> She married Manuel Pavão in Livramento on 4 march 1878. Manuel Pavão is 
>> the son of Manuel Pavão, from Capelas, and Emília de Jesus, from Livramento.
>>
>> Manoel César Furtado
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Em quinta-feira, 13 de outubro de 2016 22:06:50 UTC-3, Cheri Mello 
>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> The Knowlton book (page 311) lists:
>>> Pavao, Manuel, age 31, Hankow 1883, Madeira & Sao Miguel (stopped at 
>>> both places), with Antonia de Jesus 29, wife, and children, Maria 3, and 
>>> Emilia 3/4.
>>>
>>> Bob de Mello book (page 299) lists:
>>> Manuel Pavao, age 31, father deceased, mother Emilia de Jesus, from 
>>> Livramento
>>> wife Antonia de Jesus, age 27, father Francisco Furtado, mother Maria da 
>>> Luz
>>> Children Maria,3, Emilia 9 months. Born iIvramento
>>> On the Abergeldie
>>>
>>> The Hankow sailed around April 30, 1883. The Abergeldie sailed Jan. 1st.
>>>
>>> Check for them leaving the Azores here:
>>>
>>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883_item1/P200.html
>>>
>>> Good luck! Cheri
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd contact the PGSH on Oahu and ask for information on Manuel Pavao 
>>>> and Antonia Martins. Provide their birth dates (or approximate) and 
>>>> islands 
>>>> that they are from. I'd also trace Manuel Pavao & Antonia in the censuses 
>>>> too. It'll give their immigration year (or approximate).
>>>>
>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hawaii Help

[mances]

Cheri,

What a happy coincidence!
Antonia de Jesus, married to Manuel Pavão, is the sister of my 
great-grandfather Francisco Furtado who emigrated to Brazil in 1891!
Wow! I didn´t know she went to Hawaii. 
She married Manuel Pavão in Livramento on 4 march 1878. Manuel Pavão is the 
son of Manuel Pavão, from Capelas, and Emília de Jesus, from Livramento.

Manoel César Furtado




Em quinta-feira, 13 de outubro de 2016 22:06:50 UTC-3, Cheri Mello escreveu:
>
> The Knowlton book (page 311) lists:
> Pavao, Manuel, age 31, Hankow 1883, Madeira & Sao Miguel (stopped at both 
> places), with Antonia de Jesus 29, wife, and children, Maria 3, and Emilia 
> 3/4.
>
> Bob de Mello book (page 299) lists:
> Manuel Pavao, age 31, father deceased, mother Emilia de Jesus, from 
> Livramento
> wife Antonia de Jesus, age 27, father Francisco Furtado, mother Maria da 
> Luz
> Children Maria,3, Emilia 9 months. Born iIvramento
> On the Abergeldie
>
> The Hankow sailed around April 30, 1883. The Abergeldie sailed Jan. 1st.
>
> Check for them leaving the Azores here:
>
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883_item1/P200.html
>
> Good luck! Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Cheri Mello  > wrote:
>
>> I'd contact the PGSH on Oahu and ask for information on Manuel Pavao and 
>> Antonia Martins. Provide their birth dates (or approximate) and islands 
>> that they are from. I'd also trace Manuel Pavao & Antonia in the censuses 
>> too. It'll give their immigration year (or approximate).
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margin note: Carvalho in Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel island

[mances]

Emolumento (emolument - notary fee)

Manoel

Em terça-feira, 4 de outubro de 2016 18:55:01 UTC-3, Cheri Mello escreveu:
>
> The approximately 10 years stuff makes sense with the research. I have a 
> problem with the wife's name though. Going to have to check where I found 
> her name from.
>
> Now for the other squish. Anyone else see anything in there?
>
> Cheri Mello
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> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 2:51 PM, George Sousa  > wrote:
>
>> I think it says "He was the widower of approximately ten years (a Cerca 
>> de dez annos) of Maria do Carmo Lazaro ..." but I can't make out the final 
>> 'squish'
>>
>> On Oct 4, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Cheri Mello  
>> wrote:
>>
>> The margin note for Francisco, #18 on the bottom left:
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1900-1905/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1900-1905_item1/P114.html
>>
>> The individual that's referenced in this record died on the 21 of the 
>> current? in the Hospital of this Vila. He was the widower that was about 
>> (??) something of Maria do Carmo Lazaro. Squish squish squish Povoacao 23 
>> May 1845.
>>
>> Can someone help with the ? and the squish squish squish?
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>> Tainhas, Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Roque (Rosto do Cao) Ponta Delgada, S. Miguel - Manuel Gonçalves and Isabel Lopes

[mances]

Margaret,

Pedro Gonçalves and Maria Manuel
x
Antonio de Sousa, deceased, and Ana Gonçalves

Manoel

Em terça-feira, 4 de outubro de 2016 13:28:45 UTC-3, Mara escreveu:
>
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone in the group have this couple, Manuel Goncalves and Isabel 
> Lopes?  
>
> They were married in Sao Roque, Ponta Delgada on the 10th of January? 
> 1627, however the document is hard to read; (left side) names start on the 
> 7th line from the top.  Your help discerning, if possible, the bridal 
> couple's parents.  
>
> For the groom I think I see Pedro?Goncalves as the father.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1622-1707/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1622-1707_item1/P10.html
>
> Their childrens' baptisms shows the father as Manuel Gonçalves Prestes.  
>
> Thank you.
>
> -- 
> Margaret M Vicente
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joseph REBELO and Maria DIAS

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Sandra,

I descend from Manuel de Sousa Dias and his 1st wife Madalena da Costa.
I have no information on Baltazar Gonçalves and didn´t know his daughter 
Maria took the name Botelho. When did she marry and when was her son 
Antonio baptized? I don't have this information.

Maybe the surname Botelho came from Baltazar Gonçalves. Many of the first 
Botelho's kept the patronymic Gonçalves.

I know that Simão de Sousa was baptized in São Roque on 1 nov 1627 - CCA 
#40 and it seems that Baltazar Gonçalves died in São Roque on 10 dec 1633 - 
CCA #40 and Catarina de Sousa on 20 aug 1665 - CCA #75.
 
Manoel

Em sábado, 24 de setembro de 2016 19:54:20 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>
> Manoel,
>
> I don't know why I could not find their children.  Maybe my eyes are going.
>
> I also descend from Simao de Sousa and his 2nd wife Catarina Dias through 
> their son, Manoel de Sousa Dias and his 2nd wife,
> Catarina Fernandes.
>
> Simao was the son Baltazar Goncalves and Catarina de Sousa. Their 
> daughter, Maria, took name Botelho.  Also, Jorge Nunes Botelho fo Jerónimo 
> Botelho de Macedo was padrinho to their son, Antonio.  I am trying to find 
> the connection.  Do you have any information on
> Baltazar Goncalves?  Who do you descend from Simao and Catarina?
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:09 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Sandra,
>>
>> José Rebelo and Maria Dias are my ancestors.
>>
>> I have these children for them baptized in Matriz da Ribeira Grande:
>> . João, b. 24.9.1625 - CCA #123. Pd: Manuel Teixeira filho de Pedro Vaz, 
>> carreteiro, e Catarina Manuel filha de João Gonçalves, carreteiro, todos 
>> desta freguesia.
>> . Maria, b. 9.5.1627 - CCA #152 - CCA #152. Pd: Manuel do Canto e Maria 
>> de Sousa.
>> . Ângela, b. 15.7.1629 - CCA #21. Pd: Manuel do Canto e Maria de Sousa.
>> . Úrsula e Catarina (gêmeas), b. 8.9.1631 - CCA #69. Pd: Manuel do Canto 
>> e Maria de Sousa.
>>
>> I descend from their daughter Catarina Dias who married Simão de Sousa 
>> from São Roque.
>>
>> Manoel César Furtado
>>
>> Em sábado, 24 de setembro de 2016 16:17:14 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>>>
>>> Does anybody have this couple?
>>>
>>> Joseph fo João Rebelo e Isabel Dias (nal possibly Relva).
>>>
>>> Maria b.18 Mar 1598 NS da Estrela, RG fa Domingos Dias e Catharina 
>>> Vultão.
>>>
>>> Joseph and Maria m.23 Nov 1624 NS da Estrela, RG.  I cannot find 
>>> children for
>>> them.
>>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joseph REBELO and Maria DIAS

[mances]

Sandra,

José Rebelo and Maria Dias are my ancestors.

I have these children for them baptized in Matriz da Ribeira Grande:
. João, b. 24.9.1625 - CCA #123. Pd: Manuel Teixeira filho de Pedro Vaz, 
carreteiro, e Catarina Manuel filha de João Gonçalves, carreteiro, todos 
desta freguesia.
. Maria, b. 9.5.1627 - CCA #152 - CCA #152. Pd: Manuel do Canto e Maria de 
Sousa.
. Ângela, b. 15.7.1629 - CCA #21. Pd: Manuel do Canto e Maria de Sousa.
. Úrsula e Catarina (gêmeas), b. 8.9.1631 - CCA #69. Pd: Manuel do Canto e 
Maria de Sousa.

I descend from their daughter Catarina Dias who married Simão de Sousa from 
São Roque.

Manoel César Furtado

Em sábado, 24 de setembro de 2016 16:17:14 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>
> Does anybody have this couple?
>
> Joseph fo João Rebelo e Isabel Dias (nal possibly Relva).
>
> Maria b.18 Mar 1598 NS da Estrela, RG fa Domingos Dias e Catharina Vultão.
>
> Joseph and Maria m.23 Nov 1624 NS da Estrela, RG.  I cannot find children 
> for
> them.
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lourenco DO REGO BALDAIA

[mances]

Sandra,

Maria de Sousa was from Água de Pau. Maybe you will find them there.

Manoel

Em sexta-feira, 16 de setembro de 2016 18:36:14 UTC-3, Sandra Perez 
escreveu:
>
> Does anyone have Lourenco do Rego Baldaia?
>
> Lourenco b.6 Aug 1715 Santa Cruz, Lagoa fo Manoel do Rego Baldaia e Maria 
> de
> Sousa padrinho: Joam de Medeiros fo Joam de Medeiros e Maria Roiz.
>
> Lourenco married Barbara do Conciecao Pereira on 15 May 1758 in Rosto de 
> Cao,
> Sao Roque.
>
> I have not found siblings for him in Santa Cruz.  I believe he may be 
> connected to
> the do Rego Baldaias of Sao Roque.
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 'de Sousa'/'Medeiros', São Roque (Ponta Delgada)

[mances]

Ângela,

Your Josefa de Oliveira is a descendant of Gonçalo do Rego, o velho, 
through Belchior Baldaia do Rego and his second wife Isabel Raposo.
Belchior and Isabel are my ancestors too, I descend 4 times from them.

Josefa's ancestry:

Josefa de Oliveira x Antonio de Medeiros da Silva

m. 6 jun 1740 – CCA #51 - São Roque

\

João do Rego Baldaia x Ana de Medeiros

m. 30 dec 1712 – CCA #170 (this marriage is in the book of baptisms of São 
Roque)

\

Manuel do Rego Baldaia x Maria Roiz (or Fernandes)

m. 31 dec 1666 – CCA #31 – Santa Cruz, Lagoa

\

Jorge do Rego Baldaia x Maria Martins

m. 26 dec 1636 – CCA #53 – Santa Cruz, Lagoa

\

Belchior Baldaia do Rego x (2ª) Isabel Raposo

RR – chapter 18, 9

\

Gonçalo do Rego, o velho x Maria Baldaia

RR – chapter 18, 1


Manoel César Furtado

Em quarta-feira, 14 de setembro de 2016 00:53:42 UTC-3, Ângela Loura 
escreveu:
>
> Does anyone have information oh these people/this line?
> This is the 'de Sousa' line of my great grandfather José de Sousa (born in 
> São Roque PDL, moved to Santa Maria and married there).
>
> This is the further i got:
> *José de Sousa* (my great grandfather):
> Filho de  João José de Sousa* e Maria Borges Ricardo
>
> * *João José de SOUSA*
> Nascimento: 28 de Abril de 1873
> S. Roque Rosto do Cão, Ponta Delgada, S.Miguel, Açores
> Filho de Manuel José de SOUSA* e Senhorinha San João
>
> ** Manuel José de SOUSA*
> Nascimento: 08 de Dezembro de 1835
> S. Roque Rosto do Cão, Ponta Delgada, S.Miguel, Açores
> Filho de Manuel José de SOUSA* e Maria Jacintha  
>
> * *Manuel José de SOUSA*
> Nascimento: 17 de Junho de 1814
> S. Roque Rosto do Cão, Ponta Delgada, S.Miguel, Açores
> Filho de Francisco Jozé de SOUSA* e Helena Roza 
>
> * *Francisco Jozé de SOUSA*
> Nascimento: 04 de Abril de 1791
> S. Roque Rosto do Cão, Ponta Delgada, S.Miguel, Açores
> Filho de João José *de **MEDEIROS** e Joanna Thereza 
> Neto paterno de:
> - Antonio *de **MEDEIROS da SILVA*
> - Jozefa *de OLIVEIRA* 
> Neto materno de:
> - Antonio* FURTADO* 
> - Antonia *de SOUSA*
> Casamento do Francisco com Helena Roza (filha de Sebastiam de Mello e 
> Andreza Maria):
> (
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1797-1814/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1797-1814_item1/P175.html
>  
> 
> )
> Baptismo do Francisco:
> (
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1781-1792/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1781-1792_item1/P156.html
>  
> 
> )
>
> - Thanks!
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Mathias Calvo 1731 Ajuda de Bretanha

[mances]

I descend from Águeda Calvo daughter of Sebastião Fernandes Moreno and 
Beatriz Calvo from Bretanha.
Águeda married Manuel Martins in Santo Antonio on 28 feb 1641. Manuel was 
the son of Bartolomeu Roiz and Isabel Martins from Santo Antonio.

Águeda and Manuel were the parents of Pedro Martins Calvo baptized in São 
José, Ponta Delgada, and married in São Roque with Maria de Oliveira.
They are the ancestors of my 4th grandfather Manuel Machado from São Roque.

Manoel César Furtado

Em domingo, 11 de setembro de 2016 08:09:17 UTC-3, John Raposo escreveu:
>
> You can probably order it from the Archives in Ponta Delgada. It is called 
> *"TERMOS DOS CASADOS E BATIZADOS DA BRETANHA *que estavam num livro velho 
> e foram feitos pelo Vigário André de Sousa Dias no ano de 1727." It is 
> several pages long and has not been typed up. The Vicar's penmanship is not 
> the worst I have seen. 
>
> I did check my copy. Your Antonio and Andre are not in the baptisms or 
> marriages. There are several Calvos going back to ANDRÉ CALVO, son of 
> Sebastião Fernandes Moreno and Beatriz Calva, married in Bretanha on 3 Apr 
> 1640 to MARIA GONÇALVES, daughter of Filipe Gonçalves Ana de Medeiros. The 
> couple was related in the 4th degree of consanguinity. 
>
> The first marriage recorded in the index was in 1569; the first recorded 
> baptism was in 1606.
>
> John Miranda Raposo
>
>
> On Saturday, September 10, 2016 7:34 PM, Joanne Mercier <
> musicma...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>
> John, where can I find that index? Maybe it can be of help to me as well. 
> I’ll give anything a try once! ;)
>
>
> On September 10, 2016 at 6:18:03 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy (
> azo...@googlegroups.com ) wrote:
>
> I do not know if Andre is Antonio's father. Before 1703 the records for 
> Bretanha no longer exist. All that we have is an index, with many gaps, put 
> together by a vicar in 1723, of the deteriorating registers he found in 
> Bretanha when he arrived. Many records had already been lost, some were 
> partially obliterated, and as I said, there were many gaps. I have had some 
> luck connecting many lines back to the 16th century using that index, but I 
> also have my share of Bretanha dead ends.
>
>
> On Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:22 PM, Joanne Mercier <
> musicma...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>
> John — is Andre the father of Antonio? And how and when did the de 
> Medeiros name get involved? Mathias and Antonio are my 4GG and 5GG 
> respectively and I’d like to trace things back further. 
>
> Thanks!
> Joanne
>
>
> On September 10, 2016 at 5:04:56 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy (
> azo...@googlegroups.com ) wrote:
>
> Andre Calvo died in Bretanha on 9 Mar 1768. He appears to have been 
> married 3 times: Luzia de Sousa; they had children as early as 1710. Maria 
> de Aguiar on 20 June 1742 and she died Valentines Day 1744. His last wife 
> was Francisca Soares whom he married in Brteanha on 21 May 1744.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, September 10, 2016 4:27 PM, Joanne Mercier <
> musicma...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>
> Alvares! I suspected it might be something like that but I have a problem 
> understanding some of the older abbreviations. Thanks to all, particularly 
> Margaret, for your assistance!
>
> Question — any chance Andre Calvo and Luiza de Sousa might be the 
> grandparents as well? Does anyone have this family in their tree? 
>
> Thanks again!
> Joanne 
>  
>
>
>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Does anyone have Jose de Sousa Simao (Simoes) in their tree?

[mances]

Cathy,

I think your José de Sousa Simões and Antonia Francisca also went by José 
de Sousa and Antonia de Resende. They married in São Roque on 14 feb 1768. 
José de Sousa was the son of Simão de Sousa and Antonia da Costa. 
Antonia de Resende was the daughter of Simão do Monte and Francisca de 
Resende.

You should look for all the children born to José de Sousa and Antonia de 
Resende in São Roque in order to see if Antonia de Resende also appears as 
Antonia Francisca in the baptism records.

This José de Sousa with the patronymic Simões is the only one who married 
an Antonia in that time period.

Manoel

Em terça-feira, 30 de agosto de 2016 19:37:40 UTC-3, cathybourgeois1218 
escreveu:
>
> His marriage to Inacia Helena was on 11/19/1806 in Sao Roque, but I'm 
> having a hard time going beyond that to his parents who were Jose de Sousa 
> Simoes and Antonia Francisca.  Can't seem to find records for Jose or his 
> parents.
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral Santa Maria

[mances]

Cathy,

Ana Soares is my ancestor too. The birth record simply says that she was 
baptized on 26 july 1693, daughter of Manuel Soares and Francisca Cabral, 
and the godfather was Francisco Fragoso the son of captain Manuel Fragoso 
Delgado.

Manoel César Furtado

Em segunda-feira, 29 de agosto de 2016 16:09:58 UTC-3, cathybourgeois1218 
escreveu:
>
> I also have a Isabel Cabral (married to Francisco Curvello) that was the 
> mother of Francisco Curvello (married to Maria de Mello).
>
> I have the marriage link of Francisco and Maria de Mello.
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716_item1/P43.html
>
>
> I also have a Francisca Cabral (married to Manuel Soares) that was the 
> mother of Anna Soares born on 7/26/1693 (I'm waiting for the baptismal to 
> be translated for me). 
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1667-1697/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1667-1697_item1/P118.html
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 2:41 PM, MaryAnn Santos  > wrote:
>
>> I think this might be a part of my Rodrigues de Mello line going back a 
>> ways
>>
>> MaryAnn Santos
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Maria Lima > > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm working on the line Manoel Cabral Bulhao of Maia.  He was from Santo 
>>> Espirito, Samta Maria (Maia).  Here's his marriage record to Maria Moniz; 
>>> she was from Ponta Garca.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749_item1/P52.html
>>>
>>> He moved back to Santa Maria with Anna and their children and she died 
>>> there.  He then married Maria de Mello.  Here's that record.  I'm working 
>>> with Theresa Entin on this line.
>>>
>>> Here's the marriage to Maria de Mello:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1708-1730/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1708-1730_item1/P48.html
>>>
>>> Manoel's parents were Antonio Cabral de Mello X Maria  da Costa.  I 
>>> esto,ate their son, Manoel Cabral Bulhao was born around 1684.
>>>
>>> In some of the baptismal records of his children he is listed as Manoel 
>>> de Medeiros, Manoel de Mello and or Manoel Cabral Bulhao
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maria Elena
>>>
>>> > On Aug 29, 2016, at 10:53 AM, Liz Migliori >> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Does anyone have any Cabrals from Santa Maria?
>>> >
>>> > Liz
>>> >
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cabral Santa Maria

[mances]

I have these:

Antonio Velho Lourenço Cabral x Isabel Luiz - m. 12 july 1601 - Assunção

Francisco Cabral x Ana de Melo - m. 15 may 1702 - Assunção

Francisco Cabral x Francisca Pereira - m. about 1660 - Santo Espírito

Manuel Soares x Francisca Cabral - m. about 1660 - Assunção?


Manoel César Furtado

Em segunda-feira, 29 de agosto de 2016 12:54:07 UTC-3, Lizmig escreveu:
>
> Does anyone have any Cabrals from Santa Maria? 
>
> Liz 
>
> Sent from my iPhone 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Fernandes PEXIM and Anna Martins

[mances]

Sandra,

They're my ancestors.
In summary here's what I have:

. São Roque, 20.1.1625 - CCA #6, casamento de João Fernandes e Ana Martins. 
Ele é filho de Matias Fernandes (f.) e Maria Fernandes. Ela é filha de 
Melchior de Sousa (f.) e Catarina Álvares (f.).
. São Roque, 5.1.1657 - CCA #63, óbito de João Fernandes "Pexim". Não fez 
testamento.

Filhos de João Fernandes e Ana Martins batizados em São Roque:
. Gonçalo, b. 11.11.1625 - CCA #36. Filho de João Fernandes "Pexim" e de 
Ana Martins. Pd: Domingos Gonçalves Nateiro, e Madalena Gonçalves mulher de 
Francisco Gonçalves, todos desta freguesia.
. Manuel, b. 30.1.1628 - CCA #42. Filho de João Fernandes e de Ana Martins. 
Pd: Bartolomeu Machado, desta freguesia, e Catarina de São Boaventura filha 
de Domingos Afonso e de Bárbara de Sousa, moradores em Ponta Delgada.
. André, b. 30.12.1629 - CCA #47. Filho de João Fernandes "Pexim" e de Ana 
Martins. Pd: Duarte Borges da Costa e Maria Carvalho mulher de Jerônimo 
Gonçalves de Araújo.
. Maria, b. 20.5.1631 - CCA #51. Filho de João Fernandes e de Ana Martins. 
Pd: Dionísio Borges e Isabel dos Serafins? filhos de Duarte Borges da Costa.
. Antonio, b. 21.5.1633 - CCA #61. Filho de João Fernandes "Pexim" e de Ana 
Martins. Pd: Gaspar Luiz e Antonio Gonçalves Paiva.
. Gonçalo (2º do nome), b. 30.1.1639 - CCA #83. Filho de João Fernandes 
"Pexim" e de Ana Martins. Pd: Antonio Borges da Costa e Isabel Cabeceiras 
mulher de Melchior Gomes, mercador, moradores em Ponta Delgada.
. Felipe, b. 1.5.1642 - CCA #7. Filho de João Fernandes "Pexim" e de Ana 
Martins. Pd: O Padre Cura da freguesia de Santa Clara da cidade [de Ponta 
Delgada], Antonio Fernandes Quental, e Isabel do Quental mulher de 
Francisco Álvares, moradores na vila da Lagoa.


I descend from their son Gonçalo Fernandes de Sousa and (2nd) Maria de 
Albernaz whose daughter Maria de Albernaz, my ancestor as well, died in São 
Roque on 6 feb 1767 -  CCA #72 at the age of 99 years, 3 months and 27 
days. That was how the priest wrote in her death record !! She was baptized 
on 9 oct 1667 - CCA #3, in São Roque.

Manoel César Furtado

Em sábado, 13 de agosto de 2016 19:22:52 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>
> Does anyone have this couple?  I have three children for them starting in 
> 1628 in4
> Rosto de Cao, Sao Roque.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hoping someone has these ancestors in their tree from Santa Maria

[mances]

Hi Cathy,

I will be glad to help you out. Feel at ease to ask your questions.

Manoel

Em quarta-feira, 10 de agosto de 2016 17:29:41 UTC-3, cathybourgeois1218 
escreveu:
>
> Hi Manoel:
>
> Looks like I should ask you first from now on...would you mind?
>
> Our ancestors seem to keep connecting!
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> Cathy
>
> 2016-08-10 15:51 GMT-04:00 mances <man...@gmail.com >:
>
>> Cathy,
>>
>> Theyare my ancestors too.
>> Here's what have about them:
>>
>> *Ahnentafel Chart for Josefa da Encarnação *
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *First Generation*
>>
>>  
>>
>>   1.* Josefa da Encarnação * was born on 6 Mar 1753 in Rosário, 
>> Lagoa, São Miguel. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Batismo CCA #192
>>
>>  
>>
>> Josefa married *José Cabral de Melo * son of Joaquim Cabral and Ana de 
>> Melo on 6 Feb 1773 in Capelas, São Miguel. José was born on 30 May 1750 in 
>> Capelas, São Miguel. 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Second Generation*
>>
>>  
>>
>>   2.* Antonio de Sousa * was born in S. Pedro, Vila do Porto, ilha 
>> de Santa Maria. He married Ana dos Anjos on 20 Jan 1744 in S. Pedro, Vila 
>> do Porto, Santa Maria. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Casamento - #39
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>   3.* Ana dos Anjos * was born about 1724 in S. Pedro, vila do 
>> Porto,  ilha de Santa Maria. 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Third Generation*
>>
>>  
>>
>>   4.* Francisco Garcia * was born in Santa Bárbara, ilha de Santa 
>> Maria. He married Maria de Sousa on 28 Apr 1720 in S. Pedro, ilha de Santa 
>> Maria. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Casamento - CCA #41. Parte do termo de casamento está danificada. e já 
>> não se lê o nome do pai 
>>
>> da noiva que consegui identificar como Manuel de Matos através dos 
>> batismos da freguesia de 
>>
>> Santo Espírito.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Filhos batizados em S. Pedro, Vila do Porto:
>>
>> . Tomé, n. 7.12.1720 - #79. Filho de Francisco Garcia, natural da 
>> freguesia de Santa Bárbara, e 
>>
>> Maria de Sousa, natural da freguesia do Santo Espírito. Pd: Manuel de 
>> Almada e ...? ...? de Diogo 
>>
>> velho de Melo e de Catarina ...?
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>   5.* Maria de Sousa * was born on 2 Feb 1704 in Santo Espírito, 
>> ilha de Santa Maria. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Batismo - CCA #34. Filha de Manuel de Matos e Helena de Braga. Pd: Manuel 
>> Madeira e Maria de 
>>
>> Resende mulher de Francisco Pereira, desta freguesia.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>   6.* Mateus de Almada * was born in Assunção, ilha de Santa Maria. 
>> He married Maria de Melo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Filhos batizados em São Pedro, Vila do Porto:
>>
>> . José, n. 26.11.1714 - CCA #43. Filho de Mateus de Almada, natural da 
>> freguesia de Nossa 
>>
>> Senhora da Assunção, e de Maria de Melo, natural desta freguesia de São 
>> Pedro, onde são 
>>
>> fregueses e moradores. Pd: O cap. José [de Resendes] de Bairos, casado, 
>> desta freguesia.
>>
>> . Maria, n. 15.4.1718 - #62. Filha de Mateus de Almada, natural da 
>> freguesia de Nossa Senhora da 
>>
>> Assunção, e de Maria de Melo, natural desta freguesia de São Pedro. Pd: 
>> ...?
>>
>> . Mariana, n. 22.5.1721 - #83. Pd: O Padre Cura desta igreja Gaspar de 
>> Braga Curvelo e 
>>
>> Sebastiana Madre de Deus por procuração que apresentou seu pai Manuel 
>> Cabral de Melo, 
>>
>> morador nesta freguesia.
>>
>> . Beatriz, n. 10.12.1726 - CCA #32. Pd: José de Resende filho de Manuel 
>> de Resende Travassos (f.) 
>>
>> e de sua mulher Maria de Melo
>>
>>  
>>
>> Eis os dois únicos Mateus nascidos em Assunção que encontrei neste 
>> período:
>>
>> . Assunção, aos 21.9.1692 - #197 - índice - fls. 74vº, há o batismo de 
>> Mateus, filho de Melchior de 
>>
>> Andrade, oleiro, e Maria Cabral. Este Mateus assina Mateus Cabral e casou 
>> em Assunção aos 22.
>>
>> 10.1704 - #40.
>>
>> . Assunção, aos 28.9.1678 - #186 - índice - fls. 58, há o batismo de 
>> Mateus, filho de Antonio Cabral 
>>
>> e Guiomar de Matos, e foram padrinhos Jorge Moreno e Ana de Almada.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>   7.* Maria de Melo * was born in S. Pedro, Vila do Port

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Hoping someone has these ancestors in their tree from Santa Maria

[mances]

Cathy,

Theyare my ancestors too.
Here's what have about them:

*Ahnentafel Chart for Josefa da Encarnação *

 

 

*First Generation*

 

  1.* Josefa da Encarnação * was born on 6 Mar 1753 in Rosário, Lagoa, 
São Miguel. 

 

Batismo CCA #192

 

Josefa married *José Cabral de Melo * son of Joaquim Cabral and Ana de Melo 
on 6 Feb 1773 in Capelas, São Miguel. José was born on 30 May 1750 in 
Capelas, São Miguel. 

 

 

*Second Generation*

 

  2.* Antonio de Sousa * was born in S. Pedro, Vila do Porto, ilha de 
Santa Maria. He married Ana dos Anjos on 20 Jan 1744 in S. Pedro, Vila do 
Porto, Santa Maria. 

 

Casamento - #39

 

 

  3.* Ana dos Anjos * was born about 1724 in S. Pedro, vila do Porto,  
ilha de Santa Maria. 

 

 

*Third Generation*

 

  4.* Francisco Garcia * was born in Santa Bárbara, ilha de Santa 
Maria. He married Maria de Sousa on 28 Apr 1720 in S. Pedro, ilha de Santa 
Maria. 

 

Casamento - CCA #41. Parte do termo de casamento está danificada. e já não 
se lê o nome do pai 

da noiva que consegui identificar como Manuel de Matos através dos batismos 
da freguesia de 

Santo Espírito.

 

Filhos batizados em S. Pedro, Vila do Porto:

. Tomé, n. 7.12.1720 - #79. Filho de Francisco Garcia, natural da freguesia 
de Santa Bárbara, e 

Maria de Sousa, natural da freguesia do Santo Espírito. Pd: Manuel de 
Almada e ...? ...? de Diogo 

velho de Melo e de Catarina ...?

 

 

  5.* Maria de Sousa * was born on 2 Feb 1704 in Santo Espírito, ilha 
de Santa Maria. 

 

Batismo - CCA #34. Filha de Manuel de Matos e Helena de Braga. Pd: Manuel 
Madeira e Maria de 

Resende mulher de Francisco Pereira, desta freguesia.

 

 

  6.* Mateus de Almada * was born in Assunção, ilha de Santa Maria. He 
married Maria de Melo. 

 

Filhos batizados em São Pedro, Vila do Porto:

. José, n. 26.11.1714 - CCA #43. Filho de Mateus de Almada, natural da 
freguesia de Nossa 

Senhora da Assunção, e de Maria de Melo, natural desta freguesia de São 
Pedro, onde são 

fregueses e moradores. Pd: O cap. José [de Resendes] de Bairos, casado, 
desta freguesia.

. Maria, n. 15.4.1718 - #62. Filha de Mateus de Almada, natural da 
freguesia de Nossa Senhora da 

Assunção, e de Maria de Melo, natural desta freguesia de São Pedro. Pd: ...?

. Mariana, n. 22.5.1721 - #83. Pd: O Padre Cura desta igreja Gaspar de 
Braga Curvelo e 

Sebastiana Madre de Deus por procuração que apresentou seu pai Manuel 
Cabral de Melo, 

morador nesta freguesia.

. Beatriz, n. 10.12.1726 - CCA #32. Pd: José de Resende filho de Manuel de 
Resende Travassos (f.) 

e de sua mulher Maria de Melo

 

Eis os dois únicos Mateus nascidos em Assunção que encontrei neste período:

. Assunção, aos 21.9.1692 - #197 - índice - fls. 74vº, há o batismo de 
Mateus, filho de Melchior de 

Andrade, oleiro, e Maria Cabral. Este Mateus assina Mateus Cabral e casou 
em Assunção aos 22.

10.1704 - #40.

. Assunção, aos 28.9.1678 - #186 - índice - fls. 58, há o batismo de 
Mateus, filho de Antonio Cabral 

e Guiomar de Matos, e foram padrinhos Jorge Moreno e Ana de Almada.

 

 

  7.* Maria de Melo * was born in S. Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria. 

 

 

*Fourth Generation*

 

  8.* Manuel Garcia * was born in Santa Bárbara, ilha de Santa Maria. 
He married Maria de Matos on 23 Dec 1681 in Santa Bárbara, ilha de Santa 
Maria. 

 

Carpinteiro

Casamento - CCA #33

 

 

  9.* Maria de Matos * was born in Santa Bárbara, ilha de Santa Maria. 

 

10.* Manuel de Matos * was born in Santo Espírito, ilha de Santa Maria. 
He married Helena de Braga. 

 

Filhos batizados em Santo Espírito, ilha de Santa Maria:

. Francisca, n. 23.7.1701 - CCA #11. Filha de Manuel de Matos e Helena de 
Braga. Pd: Gabriel de 

Sousa e Margarida de Andrade filhos de Cristóvão de Andrade Paim, desta 
freguesia.

. Maria, n. 2.2.1704 - CCA #34. Filha de Manuel de Matos e Helena de Braga. 
Pd: Manuel Madeira 

e Maria de Resende mulher de Francisco Pereira, desta freguesia.

 

 

11.* Helena de Braga * was born in Santo Espírito, ilha de Santa Maria. 

 

 

*Fifth Generation*

 

16.* Manuel Garcia * was born in Santa Bárbara, ilha de Santa Maria. He 
married Guiomar Pereira on 6 Sep 1648 in Santa Bárbara, ilha de Santa 
Maria. 

 

Carpinteiro

Casamento - CCA #6 - 7. Foram padrinhos o capitão Matias Nunes Velho e 
Manuel? de Paiva, e 

 

madrinhas Margarida de Sousa mulher do capitão e Angela Velho mãe do noivo.

 

 

17.* Guiomar Pereira * was born in Santa Bárbara, ilha de Santa Maria. 

 

18.* Álvaro de Fontes de Matos * was born in Santa Bárbara, ilha de 
Santa Maria. He married Margarida Correia on 9 Oct 1651 in Santa Bárbara, 
ilha de Santa Maria. 

 

Casamento - CCA #11

RR - Cap.º 58.º, § 1.º

5 - Maria de Bairos, que casou na Matriz de Vila do Porto a 28.9.1708 com 
Manuel Garcia Pereira, 

viúvo de Isabel de Morais (com quem casou em Santa Bárbara a 28.12.1707), e 
filho de Manuel 

Garcia e Maria de Matos, 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baptism please.

[mances]

Yes, you're right.

Manoel

Em quarta-feira, 10 de agosto de 2016 00:22:20 UTC-3, Mara escreveu:
>
> I'm reading as Pinheiro (pinhr.o)  
>
> 25-Mar-1614
> Britis (Beatriz) 
>
> You've got the rest all correct.
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Sandra Perez  > wrote:
>
>> On 25 Mar 1614. Beatriz fa Baltazar P-? e Maria Martins.  Padrinhos: 
>> Jeronimo? de Oliveira? e
>> Maria Ferreira escrava? Simao Ferreira.
>>
>> Bottom right.
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623_item1/P50.html
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with baptism please.

[mances]

I think is Pombeiro though the b is not like the others b but there's an m 
before it.
The rest is correct.

Manoel

Em terça-feira, 9 de agosto de 2016 21:35:19 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>
> On 25 Mar 1614. Beatriz fa Baltazar P-? e Maria Martins.  Padrinhos: 
> Jeronimo? de Oliveira? e
> Maria Ferreira escrava? Simao Ferreira.
>
> Bottom right.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623_item1/P50.html
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo

[mances]

Júlio,

Descendo de José Botelho filho de Manuel Botelho e Mariana Jacinta. Essa é 
a linha dos Botelhos da minha mãe.

Manoel César Furtado

Em sábado, 6 de agosto de 2016 18:12:06 UTC-3, Júlio escreveu:
>
> José Tavares Pimentel Coentro dever ter casado a Primeira Vez com Maria da 
> Esperança Silva a 10 Feb 1817 na beira Seca e mais tarde deve ter casado a 
> Segunda Vez talvez no Rosário da Lagoa com Maria Joaquina que nasceu como 
> diz no registo de Batismo de sua Filha Jacinta Libânia
>
> Alias batizarem duas com o mesmo nome
>
>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859_item1/P22.html
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859_item1/P38.html
>>
>>
> *1. Maria Joaquina [58879]*, daughter of *Manuel BOTELHO* [49433] and 
> *Mariana 
> Jacinta* [49434], was born about 1813 in Rosário, Lagoa. 
>
> Maria married *José Tavares de Pimentel COENTRO* [58857] 1 [MRIN: 28050], 
> son of *Antonio De Sousa Pereira COENTRO* [58883] 1 and *Ana de São Pedro 
> TAVARES* [58884],1 in 1840 in Lagoa. 
>
> *Children from this marriage were:* 
>
>   i.  *Jacinta* [58885] was born on 23 Mar 1842 in Santa Bárbara, 
> Ribeira Grande, was christened on 9 Apr 1842 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira 
> Grande, and died before 1843. 
>  ii.  *Jacinta Libânia* [58856] was born on 22 Jul 1843 in Santa 
> Bárbara, Ribeira Grande.
> Second Generation (Parents)
> --
>
> *2. Manuel BOTELHO [49433]*, son of *Martinho BOTELHO* [49422] and *Mariana 
> Francisca* [49423], was born on 3 May 1788 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada. 
>
> Manuel married *Mariana Jacinta* [49434] [MRIN: 23368] on 17 Jun 1812 in 
> Rosário, Lagoa. 
>
> *Children from this marriage were:* 
>
>   i.  *José BOTELHO* [49437] 
>
> 1ii.  *Maria Joaquina* [58879] 
>
> *3. Mariana Jacinta [49434]*, daughter of *Narciso José* [49435] and *Antónia 
> da Trindade* [49436], was born on 6 Apr 1794 in Rosário, Lagoa. 
> Mariana married *Manuel BOTELHO* [49433] [MRIN: 23368] on 17 Jun 1812 in 
> Rosário, Lagoa. 
>
> Third Generation (Grandparents)
> --
>
> *4. Martinho BOTELHO [49422]*, son of *Manuel BOTELHO* [57246] and *Antónia 
> de MEDEIROS* [49426], was born on 19 Feb 1762 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada 
> and died on 8 Dec 1792 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada at age 30. 
>
> Martinho married *Mariana Francisca* [49423] [MRIN: 23362] on 9 Oct 1785 
> in São Roque, Ponta Delgada. 
>
> *Children from this marriage were:* 
>
>   i.  *Barbara Jacinta* [49421] 
>
> 2ii.  *Manuel BOTELHO* [49433] 
>
> *5. Mariana Francisca [49423]* was born on 27 Jun 1764 in Agua de Pau and 
> died on 15 Jan 1820 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada at age 55. 
>
> Mariana married *Martinho BOTELHO* [49422] [MRIN: 23362] on 9 Oct 1785 in 
> São Roque, Ponta Delgada. 
>
> *6. Narciso José [49435]* . 
>
> Narciso married *Antónia da Trindade* [49436] [MRIN: 23369]. 
>
> *The child from this marriage was:* 
>
> 3 i.  *Mariana Jacinta* [49434] 
>
> *7. Antónia da Trindade [49436]* . 
>
> Antónia married *Narciso José* [49435] [MRIN: 23369]. 
>
> Fourth Generation (Great-Grand
>
> *8. Manuel BOTELHO [57246]*, son of *Alvaro do COUTO* [57247] 1 and *Barbara 
> De SOUSA* [57248], was born on 3 Dec 1701 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada and 
> died on 16 Dec 1774 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada at age 73. 
>
> Manuel married *Luisa da CUNHA* [57245] [MRIN: 27249], daughter of *Manuel 
> de Sousa TAVARES* [57224] and *Isabel da CUNHA* [57223], on 20 Mar 1725 
> in São Roque, Ponta Delgada. 
>
> Manuel next married *Antónia de MEDEIROS* [49426] [MRIN: 23364] on 19 Aug 
> 1758 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada. 
>
> *The child from this marriage was:* 
>
> 4 i.  *Martinho BOTELHO* [49422] 
>
> *9. Antónia de MEDEIROS [49426]* was born on 24 Nov 1722 in Agua de Pau 
> and died on 1 Jan 1799 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada at age 76. 
>
> Antónia married *Manuel BOTELHO* [57246] [MRIN: 23364] on 19 Aug 1758 in 
> São Roque, Ponta Delgada.  
>  
>
>  
>
>>  
>>>
>>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

[mances]

I found this child born to Jorge Nunes and Maria Lourenço. See the link 
below to realize how hard is to read this kind of record.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1598-1615/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1598-1615_item1/P99.html

Right page, middle.
17 de abril de 1605 - Francisco filho de Jorge Nunes e de sua mulher Maria 
Lourença.
Foram padrinhos Antonio da Mota e Isabel Roiz.


Here's what I have for now about Jorge Nunes and Maria Lourenço:
Filhos batizados na Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo:
. Francisco, b. 17.4.1605 - CCA #99. Pd: Antonio da Mota e Isabel Roiz.
. Clara e Maria (gêmeas), b. 7.10.1607 - CCA #127. Pd: Manuel Zuzarte e 
Catarina de Benevides, de Clara. Gaspar Correia e Ana Fernandes, de Maria.
. Maria, b. 13.12.1609 - CCA #146. Pd: Braz Gonçalves e Helena Gil.
. Manuel, b. 1.5.1612 - CCA #162. Pd: Bento da Fonseca e Isabel da Silva 
Correia.
. Antonio, b. 8.1.1614 - CCA #174. Pd: Antonio Nunes e Ana Gomes.
. Miguel, b. 8.9.1615 - CCA #3. Pd: Matias da Mota e Isabel Tavares.
. Ana, b. 25.2.1618 - CCA #18. Pd: Antonio Pacheco e Joana de Melo.

.  Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo, 6.2.1658 - CCA #202, casamento de Pedro 
do Monte, viúvo, com Maria da Fonseca, filha de Jorge Nunes e Maria 
Lourenço. Foi testemunha Ana de Matos mulher de Manuel Curvelo.


Manoel

Em sábado, 23 de julho de 2016 16:11:19 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>
> Thanks, Manuel. I have to back off now, my eyes and my head can only take 
> so much intensive reading with a monitor in my eyes. Makes me want to go to 
> sleep!
>
> JR
>
> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 2:55:22 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>>
>> John,
>> Here's another daughter for Manuel Raposo and Águeda Carvalho:
>> right page, 3th record - Maria, b. 15 sep 1641
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669_item1/P11.html
>>
>> Manoel
>>
>>
>>
>> Em sábado, 23 de julho de 2016 15:38:19 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>>>
>>> There are more baptisms for Andre Frz and Beatriz Costa to be sure, but 
>>> this is what I have for now:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669_item1/P14.html
>>>
>>> Pad- Fco Glz mores Agua de Alto freg de Sap Pedro (VF) and Barbara Frz 
>>> mer de Gregorio Glz mores Ponta da Garca freg NS da Pidade.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669_item1/P42.html
>>>
>>> VFSM bap- Gaspar, bap- Jan 30- 1645, filho de Andre Frz and Breatis da 
>>> Costa, Pad- Antonio Vultao e Ma Glz mer de Antonio Gomes todos desta freg.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 2:11:07 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you John,
>>>>
>>>> Here's another record where Tracunas is also cleary spelled out:
>>>> Top left
>>>> Manuel Alves Tracunas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640_item1/P178.html
>>>>
>>>> Manoel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

[mances]

John,
Here's another daughter for Manuel Raposo and Águeda Carvalho:
right page, 3th record - Maria, b. 15 sep 1641

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669_item1/P11.html

Manoel



Em sábado, 23 de julho de 2016 15:38:19 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>
> There are more baptisms for Andre Frz and Beatriz Costa to be sure, but 
> this is what I have for now:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669_item1/P14.html
>
> Pad- Fco Glz mores Agua de Alto freg de Sap Pedro (VF) and Barbara Frz mer 
> de Gregorio Glz mores Ponta da Garca freg NS da Pidade.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669_item1/P42.html
>
> VFSM bap- Gaspar, bap- Jan 30- 1645, filho de Andre Frz and Breatis da 
> Costa, Pad- Antonio Vultao e Ma Glz mer de Antonio Gomes todos desta freg.
>
>
> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 2:11:07 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>>
>> Thank you John,
>>
>> Here's another record where Tracunas is also cleary spelled out:
>> Top left
>> Manuel Alves Tracunas.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640_item1/P178.html
>>
>> Manoel
>>
>> Em sábado, 23 de julho de 2016 13:24:27 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>>>
>>> *Descendants of Manuel Raposo*
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *Generation No. 1*
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *1.*  MANUEL2 RAPOSO*  (G**ASPAR*1* M**ANUEL**)* was born 24 Apr 1605 
>>> in Vila Franca, Matriz.  He married AGUEDA CARVALHO Jul 1626 in Vila 
>>> Franca, Matriz, daughter of PEDRO CALVO and MARIA CARVALHO.  She was 
>>> born Abt. 1602 in Vila Franca, Matriz.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Notes for MANUEL RAPOSO:
>>>
>>> Manuel, b. 24.4.1605 - CCA #100. Pd: Matias da Mota e Isabel Tavares 
>>> filha de Miguel Lopes de Almeida.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Marriage Notes for MANUEL RAPOSO and AGUEDA CARVALHO:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662_item1/P99.html
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Children of MANUEL RAPOSO and AGUEDA CARVALHO are:
>>>
>>>   i.MANUEL3, b. 30 Nov 1628, Vila Franca, Matriz.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Notes for MANUEL:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640_item1/P91.html
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Pad- Anto Pachequo da Silveira and Ma. Barboza
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>   ii.MARIA CARVALHO, b. 18 May 1631, Vila Franca, 
>>> Matriz; m. MANUEL CORREIA TRACUNAS, 22 Mar 1670, Vila Franca, Matriz; 
>>> b. res Vila Franca.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Notes for MARIA CARVALHO:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640_item1/P107.html
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> VFSM, Maria bap- May 18 1631, filha de Manoel Rapozo and Maria 
>>> (sic=Agueda) Carvalha, Pad- Sebastiao Glz and Maria Velha
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Notes for MANUEL CORREIA TRACUNAS:
>>>
>>> See Teresa where Tracunas is clearly spelled out.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Marriage Notes for MARIA CARVALHO and MANUEL CORREIA TRACUNAS:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P3.html
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> VFSM casamentos- March 22- 1670, Manoel Correa Tracunas sic viuvo? com 
>>> Maria Cravalha fa. de Mel Rapozo e de Agada sic Carvalha, Test- Mel 
>>> Curvello e Anto Roiz Geral
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  iii.ANA, b. 06 Feb 1634, Vila Franca, Matriz.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Notes for ANA:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640_item1/P120.html
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Pad- Salvador da Ponte? and Clara da Costa
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  iv.JOAO, b. 03 Feb 1636, Vila Fr

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

[mances]

Thank you John,

Here's another record where Tracunas is also cleary spelled out:
Top left
Manuel Alves Tracunas.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640_item1/P178.html

Manoel

Em sábado, 23 de julho de 2016 13:24:27 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>
> *Descendants of Manuel Raposo*
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Generation No. 1*
>
>  
>
> *1.*  MANUEL2 RAPOSO*  (G**ASPAR*1* M**ANUEL**)* was born 24 Apr 1605 in 
> Vila Franca, Matriz.  He married AGUEDA CARVALHO Jul 1626 in Vila Franca, 
> Matriz, daughter of PEDRO CALVO and MARIA CARVALHO.  She was born Abt. 
> 1602 in Vila Franca, Matriz.
>
>  
>
> Notes for MANUEL RAPOSO:
>
> Manuel, b. 24.4.1605 - CCA #100. Pd: Matias da Mota e Isabel Tavares filha 
> de Miguel Lopes de Almeida.
>
>  
>
> Marriage Notes for MANUEL RAPOSO and AGUEDA CARVALHO:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662_item1/P99.html
>
> 
>
> Children of MANUEL RAPOSO and AGUEDA CARVALHO are:
>
>   i.MANUEL3, b. 30 Nov 1628, Vila Franca, Matriz.
>
>  
>
> Notes for MANUEL:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640_item1/P91.html
>
>  
>
> Pad- Anto Pachequo da Silveira and Ma. Barboza
>
>  
>
>   ii.MARIA CARVALHO, b. 18 May 1631, Vila Franca, 
> Matriz; m. MANUEL CORREIA TRACUNAS, 22 Mar 1670, Vila Franca, Matriz; b. 
> res Vila Franca.
>
>  
>
> Notes for MARIA CARVALHO:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640_item1/P107.html
>
>  
>
> VFSM, Maria bap- May 18 1631, filha de Manoel Rapozo and Maria 
> (sic=Agueda) Carvalha, Pad- Sebastiao Glz and Maria Velha
>
>  
>
> Notes for MANUEL CORREIA TRACUNAS:
>
> See Teresa where Tracunas is clearly spelled out.
>
>  
>
> Marriage Notes for MARIA CARVALHO and MANUEL CORREIA TRACUNAS:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P3.html
>
>  
>
> VFSM casamentos- March 22- 1670, Manoel Correa Tracunas sic viuvo? com 
> Maria Cravalha fa. de Mel Rapozo e de Agada sic Carvalha, Test- Mel 
> Curvello e Anto Roiz Geral
>
>  
>
>  iii.ANA, b. 06 Feb 1634, Vila Franca, Matriz.
>
>  
>
> Notes for ANA:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640_item1/P120.html
>
>  
>
> Pad- Salvador da Ponte? and Clara da Costa
>
>  
>
>  iv.JOAO, b. 03 Feb 1636, Vila Franca, Matriz.
>
>  
>
> Notes for JOAO:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640_item1/P137.html
>
>  
>
> Pad- Fco Cordeiro fo de Domingos Crdeiro, defunto and Ursula Glz fa. de 
> Joao Glz todos mores nesta freg.
>
>  
>
>  v.ANA, b. 24 Feb 1638, Vila Franca, Matriz.
>
>  
>
> Notes for ANA:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640_item1/P157.html
>
>  
>
> VFSM, Anna, Feb 24 1638, filha de Mel Rapozo and Agada Carvalha, Pad- 
> Bartolomeu Lopes Guerreiro and Ma Roiz fa. de Miguel Noya todos desta freg.
>
>  
>
>  vi.CATARINA, b. 21 Nov 1639, Vila Franca, Matriz.
>
>  
>
> Notes for CATARINA:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640_item1/P174.html
>
>  
>
> Pad- Mel Fagundes estudante and Maria do Rozario de casa de Barbara Roiz 
> mores nesta freg.
>
>  
>
> 2. vii.LUZIA CARVALHO, b. 21 May 1644, Vila Franca, 
> Matriz, res Ribeira Seca; d. Aft. 25 May 1704.
>
>
>
> On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 1:41:10 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>>
>> I found two children in Matriz de Vila Franca born to Gaspar Manuel and 
>> Beatriz Nunes.
>>
>> . Manuel, b. 24.4.1605 - CCA #100. Pd: Matias da Mota e Isabel Tavares 
>> filha de Miguel Lopes de Almeida.
>> . Maria, b. 4.10.1607 - CCA #126. Pd: Pedro Fagundes e Maria Teixeira.
>>
>>
>> Here's what I have for Pedro Calvo and Maria Carvalho:
>>
>> Filhos de Pedro Calvo e Maria Carvalho batizados na Matriz de Vila Franca 
>> do Campo:
>>
>> . Sebastião, b. 28.1.1594 - CCA #65. Pd: Manuel Correia e Guiomar Roiz 
>> filha 

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

[mances]

I found two children in Matriz de Vila Franca born to Gaspar Manuel and 
Beatriz Nunes.

. Manuel, b. 24.4.1605 - CCA #100. Pd: Matias da Mota e Isabel Tavares 
filha de Miguel Lopes de Almeida.
. Maria, b. 4.10.1607 - CCA #126. Pd: Pedro Fagundes e Maria Teixeira.


Here's what I have for Pedro Calvo and Maria Carvalho:

Filhos de Pedro Calvo e Maria Carvalho batizados na Matriz de Vila Franca 
do Campo:

. Sebastião, b. 28.1.1594 - CCA #65. Pd: Manuel Correia e Guiomar Roiz 
filha de Jerônimo Roiz.
. Luzia, b. 11.6.1606 - CCA #110. Pd: Bento da Fonseca e Maria Braba.
. Manuel, b. 2.3.1608 - CCA #130. Pd: Pedro Mendes de Abreu e Maria Jorge.
. Luzia (2ª do nome), b. 2.5.1610 - CCA #148. Pd: Mestre Simão e Briolanja 
Manuel.
. Antonio, b. 1.9.1614 - CCA #180. Pd: Jerônimo da Fonseca e Bárbara Roiz.

.  Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo, 14.10.1632 - CCA #113, casamento de 
Isabel de Lima filha de Pedro Calvo e Maria Carvalho, com Manuel de Lima 
filho de Antonio Dias, sapateiro, e de Águeda Coelho.

Manoel

Em sexta-feira, 22 de julho de 2016 13:48:53 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>
> With names Like Oliveira, Manuel and Raposo, it makes me wonder if Gaspar 
> Manoel is not form the Pimentels of Faial da Terra. Notice that Pedro Calvo 
> has two children married with two from Beatriz Nunes
>
>
> JR 
>
>
> *Descendants of Beatriz Nunes*
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Generation No. 1*
>
>  
>
> *1.*  BEATRIZ1 NUNES was born in Vila Franca, Matriz.  She married GASPAR 
> MANUEL.  He was born in Vila Franca, Matriz.
>
> 
>
>  
>
> *Generation No. 2*
>
>  
>
> *2.*  MARIA DE2 OLIVEIRA* (B**EATRIZ*1* N**UNES**)* was born in Vila 
> Franca de Campo- Matriz.  She married ANTONIO DE FREITAS DA COSTA 16 Jun 
> 1631 in Vila Franca do Campo- Matriz, son of FRANCISCO FREITAS DA COSTA, 
> O VELHO and MARIA SAMPAIO.  He was born in Vila Franca de Campo- Matriz, 
> and died Bef. 05 Apr 1672.
>
> 
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662_item1/P110.html
>
>  
>
> *3.*  MANUEL2 RAPOSO* (B**EATRIZ*1* N**UNES**)* was born in Vila Franca, 
> Matriz.  He married AGUEDA CARVALHO Jul 1626 in Vila Franca, Matriz, 
> daughter of PEDRO CALVO and MARIA CARVALHO.  She was born in Vila Franca, 
> Matriz.
>
> 
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662_item1/P99.html
>
>  
>
> *4.*  ANTONIO2 NUNES* (B**EATRIZ*1*)* was born in Vila Franca, Matriz.  
> He married FELIPA DE ABREU 26 Jun 1630 in Vila Franca, Matriz, daughter 
> of MIGUEL RODRIGUES and CATARINA DIAS.  She was born in Vila Franca, 
> Matriz.
>
>  
>
> Marriage Notes for ANTONIO NUNES and FELIPA ABREU:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662_item1/P108.html
>
>  
>
> VFSM casamento- Jun 26- 1630, Antonio Nunes (sic see margin) fo de Guaspar 
> Mel do outeiro e Breatix Nunes com Filipa sic De Abreu, fa. de Miguel Roiz 
> o moco e de Cna Dias, 
>
> Test- Bastiao Barbosa da Silva and Dos Fera Fagundes, Dona Ma? ___? and 
> Maria de Sousa viuva
>
> 
>
> Child of ANTONIO NUNES and FELIPA ABREU is:
>
>   i.MARIA3, b. 10 Apr 1640, Vila Franca, Matriz.
>
>  
>
> Notes for MARIA:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1615-1640_item1/P178.html
>
>  
>
> Pad- Mel Favella fo de Anto Favella da Costa e Dona Ma fa. de Antonio de 
> Frias ja defunto todos desta freg.
>
>  
>
> *5.*  FRANCISCO2 NUNES*  (G**ASPAR*1* M**ANUEL**)* was born Abt. 1606 in 
> Vila Franca, Matriz.  He married MARIA LOPES 11 Oct 1629 in Vila Franca, 
> Matriz, daughter of PEDRO CALVO and MARIA CARVALHO.  She was born Abt. 
> 1606 in Vila Franca, Matriz.
>
>  
>
> Marriage Notes for FRANCISCO NUNES and MARIA LOPES:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662_item1/P106.html
>
>  
>
> Test- Dos? Fera. Fagundes and Po de Matos and Dona Izabel and Ma de 
> Quintal?
>
>  
>
>
> JR
>
> On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-4, Júlio wrote:
>>
>> *1. António Freitas da COSTA [28723]*,1 filho de *Francisco Freitas da 
>> COSTA O Velho* [14988] 1 e *Maria de Sampaio SEQUEIRA* [41608],1 nasceu 
>> a 12 Jan 1606 em Matriz, Vila Franca Do Campo, e faleceu Bef 5 Abr 1672 com 
>> 66 anos de idade. 
>>
>> António casou com *Maria de OLIVEIRA* [28724] 1 [MRIN: 14058], filha de 
>> *Gaspar 
>> MANUEL* [15043] 1 e *Beatriz NUNES* [15032],1 a 16 Jun 1631 em Matriz, 
>> Vila Franca Do Campo. Maria nasceu Abt 1605.
>>
>> Notas sobre o casamento: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662_item1/P110.html
>>  
>>
>> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>>
>>2 Mi. *António de Freitas da COSTA [17115]* .1 
>>
>> António casou com *Clara Gonçalves BOTELHO* [55155] 1 [MRIN: 26195], 

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

[mances]

Unfortunately RR didn´t work on Gaspar Manuel and Beatriz Nunes ancestry.

Manoel

Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 21:39:58 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>
> Very Good. No wonder I did not find more children, they married much 
> earlier than I thought so have to search the other way for children.
>
> Regarding RR, do you mean Gaspar Manuel and and Beatriz Nunes, parents of 
> Manoel Raposo?
>
> JR
>
> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 7:59:39 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>>
>> I found the marriage of Manuel Raposo and Águeda Carvalho. It's also in 
>> Canto's index.
>>
>> Top right:
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662_item1/P99.html
>>
>>
>> Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 20:41:30 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>>>
>>> This is sister of Luzia Carvalho, Maria Carvalho:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P3.html
>>>
>>> VFSM casamentos- March 22- 1670, Manoel Correa Tracunas sic viuvo? com 
>>> Maria Cravalha fa. de Mel Rapozo e de Agada sic Carvalha, Test- Mel 
>>> Curvello e Anto Roiz Geral
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 7:11:25 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>>>>
>>>> John,
>>>>
>>>> I think the godparent is Gaspar Pacheco filho de Bento da Fonseca.
>>>> Bento da Fonseca [de Arruda] married Bárbara Correia Raposo. He is in 
>>>> the RR's book, chapter 4, §12, N. 3
>>>>
>>>> I didn´t find yet the marriage of Manuel Raposo and Luzia Carvalho in 
>>>> MVFC and I think it's possible that we can link them to RR's book.
>>>>
>>>> Sebastião de Arruda and his sister Luzia Carvalho, residents of 
>>>> Arrifes, freguesia of São Mateus de Ponta Delgada, appear as Teresa's 
>>>> godparents. 
>>>> Teresa, the daughter of Manuel da Costa [Carvalho] and Margarida da 
>>>> Costa, was born in MVFC on 15 sept 1709 - CCA #249.
>>>>
>>>> In the baptism of Francisca on 3 nov 1710 - CCA #9 the godparent is 
>>>> Sebastião de Arruda, single, native of the freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta 
>>>> Delgada.
>>>>
>>>> Manoel
>>>>
>>>> Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 14:44:56 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669_item1/P37.html
>>>>>
>>>>> VFSM bap- Luzia, May 21- 1644, filha de Mel Rapozo e Agada Carvalha, 
>>>>> Pad- Gpar. Pco? fo. de Bart? da Seca (Afonseca?)  e Izabel Pca. fa. de 
>>>>> Mel 
>>>>> Pco. todos desta freg.
>>>>>
>>>>> VFSM bap-, Catharina, bap- March 19- 1659, filha de Matheus Jorge e de 
>>>>> Anna Ribeira, Pad- Joao Gonsalves aventureiro e Catharina da Costa...
>>>>>
>>>>> JR
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 1:10:28 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mais casamentos - Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antonio da Costa x Maria Fernandes - dez 1654 - CCA #193
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manuel Fernandes x Clara da Fonseca - 4 dez 1630 - CCA #109
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Diogo Fernandes x Beatriz [Ribeiro] - 22 out 1617 - CCA #74
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manoel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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[mances]

I found the marriage of Manuel Raposo and Águeda Carvalho. It's also in 
Canto's index.

Top right:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662_item1/P99.html


Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 20:41:30 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>
> This is sister of Luzia Carvalho, Maria Carvalho:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P3.html
>
> VFSM casamentos- March 22- 1670, Manoel Correa Tracunas sic viuvo? com 
> Maria Cravalha fa. de Mel Rapozo e de Agada sic Carvalha, Test- Mel 
> Curvello e Anto Roiz Geral
>
> JR
>
> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 7:11:25 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>>
>> John,
>>
>> I think the godparent is Gaspar Pacheco filho de Bento da Fonseca.
>> Bento da Fonseca [de Arruda] married Bárbara Correia Raposo. He is in the 
>> RR's book, chapter 4, §12, N. 3
>>
>> I didn´t find yet the marriage of Manuel Raposo and Luzia Carvalho in 
>> MVFC and I think it's possible that we can link them to RR's book.
>>
>> Sebastião de Arruda and his sister Luzia Carvalho, residents of Arrifes, 
>> freguesia of São Mateus de Ponta Delgada, appear as Teresa's godparents. 
>> Teresa, the daughter of Manuel da Costa [Carvalho] and Margarida da 
>> Costa, was born in MVFC on 15 sept 1709 - CCA #249.
>>
>> In the baptism of Francisca on 3 nov 1710 - CCA #9 the godparent is 
>> Sebastião de Arruda, single, native of the freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta 
>> Delgada.
>>
>> Manoel
>>
>> Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 14:44:56 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669_item1/P37.html
>>>
>>> VFSM bap- Luzia, May 21- 1644, filha de Mel Rapozo e Agada Carvalha, 
>>> Pad- Gpar. Pco? fo. de Bart? da Seca (Afonseca?)  e Izabel Pca. fa. de Mel 
>>> Pco. todos desta freg.
>>>
>>> VFSM bap-, Catharina, bap- March 19- 1659, filha de Matheus Jorge e de 
>>> Anna Ribeira, Pad- Joao Gonsalves aventureiro e Catharina da Costa...
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 1:10:28 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mais casamentos - Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo:
>>>>
>>>> Antonio da Costa x Maria Fernandes - dez 1654 - CCA #193
>>>>
>>>> Manuel Fernandes x Clara da Fonseca - 4 dez 1630 - CCA #109
>>>>
>>>> Diogo Fernandes x Beatriz [Ribeiro] - 22 out 1617 - CCA #74
>>>>
>>>> Manoel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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[mances]

John,

I think the godparent is Gaspar Pacheco filho de Bento da Fonseca.
Bento da Fonseca [de Arruda] married Bárbara Correia Raposo. He is in the 
RR's book, chapter 4, §12, N. 3

I didn´t find yet the marriage of Manuel Raposo and Luzia Carvalho in MVFC 
and I think it's possible that we can link them to RR's book.

Sebastião de Arruda and his sister Luzia Carvalho, residents of Arrifes, 
freguesia of São Mateus de Ponta Delgada, appear as Teresa's godparents. 
Teresa, the daughter of Manuel da Costa [Carvalho] and Margarida da Costa, 
was born in MVFC on 15 sept 1709 - CCA #249.

In the baptism of Francisca on 3 nov 1710 - CCA #9 the godparent is 
Sebastião de Arruda, single, native of the freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta 
Delgada.

Manoel

Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 14:44:56 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1640-1669_item1/P37.html
>
> VFSM bap- Luzia, May 21- 1644, filha de Mel Rapozo e Agada Carvalha, Pad- 
> Gpar. Pco? fo. de Bart? da Seca (Afonseca?)  e Izabel Pca. fa. de Mel Pco. 
> todos desta freg.
>
> VFSM bap-, Catharina, bap- March 19- 1659, filha de Matheus Jorge e de 
> Anna Ribeira, Pad- Joao Gonsalves aventureiro e Catharina da Costa...
>
> JR
>
> On Thursday, July 21, 2016 at 1:10:28 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>>
>> Mais casamentos - Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo:
>>
>> Antonio da Costa x Maria Fernandes - dez 1654 - CCA #193
>>
>> Manuel Fernandes x Clara da Fonseca - 4 dez 1630 - CCA #109
>>
>> Diogo Fernandes x Beatriz [Ribeiro] - 22 out 1617 - CCA #74
>>
>> Manoel
>>
>>
>>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

[mances]

John,

Grosso is an alcunha meaning, fat, strong.

The surname Raposo in Miguel da Costa [Raposo] (m. to Ana de Andrade) is a 
good clue. Luzia Carvalho, the mother of Manuel da Costa Carvalho, was the 
daughter of Manuel Raposo.

Manoel

Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 13:30:42 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>
> Thank you, Manuel!! 
>
> It may surprise you to know that I did not know Vila Franca had marriage 
> records in the mid 1650's. Because when I last checked years ago, all I saw 
> were empty pages and assumed, rather foolishly, that the whole period had 
> nothing in it. Then I saw your posts and noticed the mid 1600 dates, so now 
> I am revisiting the whole period. Lots missing, but many are still in good 
> shape.
>
> I think there may still be conflict with Manuel da Costa Grosso, so I will 
> recheck my records.
>
> These marriages clearly indicate father as Manuel Costa Grosso and not 
> Carvalho:
>
> Francisca da Costa cc Joao da Costa (Romeiro), May 24- 1728
> Joao da Costa cc Francisca de Pimentel, Feb 13- 1736
> Miguel da Costa Raposo cc Ana de Andrade, Jan 1- 1755
>
> JR
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

[mances]

Mais casamentos - Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo:

Antonio da Costa x Maria Fernandes - dez 1654 - CCA #193

Manuel Fernandes x Clara da Fonseca - 4 dez 1630 - CCA #109

Diogo Fernandes x Beatriz [Ribeiro] - 22 out 1617 - CCA #74

Manoel

Em quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 12:45:40 UTC-3, Júlio escreveu:
>
> Obrigado. grande Ajuda.
>
> Tambem tinha o Gaspar Fernandes.
>
>
>
> quinta-feira, 21 de Julho de 2016 às 00:34:51 UTC, mances escreveu:
>>
>> John and Júlio,
>>
>> Here's what I have found so far about Manuel da Costa Carvalho and his 
>> wife Margarida da Costa. If you find any inaccurate information please let 
>> me know.
>> Gaspar Fernandes (16) in this line was already in my tree.
>>
>>
>> *Ahnentafel Chart for Francisca da Costa*
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *First Generation*
>>
>>  
>>
>>   1.* Francisca da Costa * was born on 3 Nov 1710 in Matriz, Vila 
>> Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Batismo - CCA # #9. Filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da 
>> Costa. Pd: Sebastião de 
>>
>> Arruda, solteiro, natural da freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta Delgada.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Do termo de seu casamento consta a alcunha de seu pai Manuel da Costa 
>> Grosso.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Francisca married *João da Costa * son of João da Costa Romeiro and 
>> Maria da Cunha on 24 May 1728 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. João was 
>> born on 5 Dec 1704 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He died on 14 Jul 1744 
>> in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Second Generation*
>>
>>  
>>
>>   2.* Manuel da Costa Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do 
>> Campo. He died before 1728. He married Margarida da Costa on 25 May 1704 in 
>> Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Casamento - CCA #144
>>
>>  
>>
>> Também documentado como Manuel da Costa Grosso no termo de casamento de 
>> sua filha 
>>
>> Francisca da Costa.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Filhos de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da Costa batizados na 
>> Matriz de Vila Franca do 
>>
>> Campo:
>>
>> . José, n. 29.3.1705 - CCA #160. Filho de Manuel da Costa e Margarida da 
>> Costa, moradores às 
>>
>> hortas. Pd: Pe. Gonçalo Martins, morador nesta vila.
>>
>> . Teresa, n. 16.12.1706 - CCA #202. Filha de Manuel da Costa e Margarida 
>> da Costa, moradores às 
>>
>> hortas. Pd: Pe. Gonçalo Martins, freguês e natural desta paróquia.
>>
>> . Teresa (2.ª do nome), n. 15.1.1708- CCA #227. Filha de Manuel da Costa 
>> Carvalho e Margarida 
>>
>> da Costa. Pd: Sebastião Lopes e sua mulher Joana de Lima, moradores nesta 
>> vila. 
>>
>> . Teresa (3.ª do nome), n. 15.9.1709 - CCA #249. Filha de Manuel da Costa 
>> e Margarida da Costa, 
>>
>> moradores às hortas e fregueses desta igreja Matriz de São Miguel e dela 
>> naturais. Pd: Sebastião 
>>
>> de Arruda e sua irmã Luzia Carvalho, moradores nos Arrifes, freguesia de 
>> São Mateus da cidade de 
>>
>> Ponta Delgada.
>>
>> . Francisca, n. 3.11.1710 - CCA #9. Filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e 
>> Margarida da Costa. Pd: 
>>
>> Sebastião de Arruda, solteiro, natural da freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta 
>> Delgada.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Obs.: Na Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo em 20.1.1708 - CCA #227, há o 
>> batismo de Teresa filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da Costa. 
>> Pd: Sebastião Lopes e sua mulher Joana de Lima, fregueses desta Matriz. 
>> (Termo de batismo repetido)
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>   3.* Margarida da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Third Generation*
>>
>>  
>>
>>   4.* Gaspar da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
>> died before 1704. He married Luzia Carvalho on 25 Feb 1670 in Matriz, Vila 
>> Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Casamento - CCA #3
>>
>> Morador na Ribeira Seca, Vila Franca do Campo.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>   5.* Luzia Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>>   6.* Manuel da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
>> died before 1704. He 
>>
>> married Catarina de Lima on 16 Oct 1681 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Casamento - CCA

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

[mances]

The notes for Antonio da Costa (12) are wrong. It's a reference to another 
person. Just delete them.

Manoel

Em quarta-feira, 20 de julho de 2016 21:34:51 UTC-3, mances escreveu:
>
> John and Júlio,
>
> Here's what I have found so far about Manuel da Costa Carvalho and his 
> wife Margarida da Costa. If you find any inaccurate information please let 
> me know.
> Gaspar Fernandes (16) in this line was already in my tree.
>
>
> *Ahnentafel Chart for Francisca da Costa*
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *First Generation*
>
>  
>
>   1.* Francisca da Costa * was born on 3 Nov 1710 in Matriz, Vila 
> Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> Batismo - CCA # #9. Filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da 
> Costa. Pd: Sebastião de 
>
> Arruda, solteiro, natural da freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta Delgada.
>
>  
>
> Do termo de seu casamento consta a alcunha de seu pai Manuel da Costa 
> Grosso.
>
>  
>
> Francisca married *João da Costa * son of João da Costa Romeiro and Maria 
> da Cunha on 24 May 1728 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. João was born on 5 
> Dec 1704 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He died on 14 Jul 1744 in Matriz, 
> Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Second Generation*
>
>  
>
>   2.* Manuel da Costa Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do 
> Campo. He died before 1728. He married Margarida da Costa on 25 May 1704 in 
> Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> Casamento - CCA #144
>
>  
>
> Também documentado como Manuel da Costa Grosso no termo de casamento de 
> sua filha 
>
> Francisca da Costa.
>
>  
>
> Filhos de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da Costa batizados na 
> Matriz de Vila Franca do 
>
> Campo:
>
> . José, n. 29.3.1705 - CCA #160. Filho de Manuel da Costa e Margarida da 
> Costa, moradores às 
>
> hortas. Pd: Pe. Gonçalo Martins, morador nesta vila.
>
> . Teresa, n. 16.12.1706 - CCA #202. Filha de Manuel da Costa e Margarida 
> da Costa, moradores às 
>
> hortas. Pd: Pe. Gonçalo Martins, freguês e natural desta paróquia.
>
> . Teresa (2.ª do nome), n. 15.1.1708- CCA #227. Filha de Manuel da Costa 
> Carvalho e Margarida 
>
> da Costa. Pd: Sebastião Lopes e sua mulher Joana de Lima, moradores nesta 
> vila. 
>
> . Teresa (3.ª do nome), n. 15.9.1709 - CCA #249. Filha de Manuel da Costa 
> e Margarida da Costa, 
>
> moradores às hortas e fregueses desta igreja Matriz de São Miguel e dela 
> naturais. Pd: Sebastião 
>
> de Arruda e sua irmã Luzia Carvalho, moradores nos Arrifes, freguesia de 
> São Mateus da cidade de 
>
> Ponta Delgada.
>
> . Francisca, n. 3.11.1710 - CCA #9. Filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e 
> Margarida da Costa. Pd: 
>
> Sebastião de Arruda, solteiro, natural da freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta 
> Delgada.
>
>  
>
> Obs.: Na Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo em 20.1.1708 - CCA #227, há o 
> batismo de Teresa filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da Costa. 
> Pd: Sebastião Lopes e sua mulher Joana de Lima, fregueses desta Matriz. 
> (Termo de batismo repetido)
>
>  
>
>  
>
>   3.* Margarida da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Third Generation*
>
>  
>
>   4.* Gaspar da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
> died before 1704. He married Luzia Carvalho on 25 Feb 1670 in Matriz, Vila 
> Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> Casamento - CCA #3
>
> Morador na Ribeira Seca, Vila Franca do Campo.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>   5.* Luzia Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
>   6.* Manuel da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
> died before 1704. He 
>
> married Catarina de Lima on 16 Oct 1681 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> Casamento - CCA #35
>
> Morador nas Hortas, Vila Franca do Campo.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>   7.* Catarina de Lima * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Fourth Generation*
>
>  
>
>   8.* André Fernandes * was born on 8 Dec 1602 in Matriz, Ribeira 
> Grande. He married Beatriz da Costa on 19 Dec 1639 in Matriz, Vila Franca 
> do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> Batismo - CCA #231. Pd: Francisco Pires Paiva e Ana Pires.
>
> Casamento - CCA #139
>
>  
>
>  
>
>   9.* Beatriz da Costa * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. 
>
>  
>
> 10.* Manuel Raposo * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
> married Águeda Carvalho. 
>
>  
>
> 11.* Águeda Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>
>  
>
> 12.* Antonio da Costa * was born in Ma

[AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel da Costa Carvalho from Vila Franca do Campo - S. MIguel - Ancestry

[mances]

John and Júlio,

Here's what I have found so far about Manuel da Costa Carvalho and his wife 
Margarida da Costa. If you find any inaccurate information please let me 
know.
Gaspar Fernandes (16) in this line was already in my tree.


*Ahnentafel Chart for Francisca da Costa*

 

 

*First Generation*

 

  1.* Francisca da Costa * was born on 3 Nov 1710 in Matriz, Vila 
Franca do Campo. 

 

Batismo - CCA # #9. Filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da Costa. 
Pd: Sebastião de 

Arruda, solteiro, natural da freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta Delgada.

 

Do termo de seu casamento consta a alcunha de seu pai Manuel da Costa 
Grosso.

 

Francisca married *João da Costa * son of João da Costa Romeiro and Maria 
da Cunha on 24 May 1728 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. João was born on 5 
Dec 1704 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He died on 14 Jul 1744 in Matriz, 
Vila Franca do Campo. 

 

 

*Second Generation*

 

  2.* Manuel da Costa Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do 
Campo. He died before 1728. He married Margarida da Costa on 25 May 1704 in 
Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 

 

Casamento - CCA #144

 

Também documentado como Manuel da Costa Grosso no termo de casamento de sua 
filha 

Francisca da Costa.

 

Filhos de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da Costa batizados na Matriz 
de Vila Franca do 

Campo:

. José, n. 29.3.1705 - CCA #160. Filho de Manuel da Costa e Margarida da 
Costa, moradores às 

hortas. Pd: Pe. Gonçalo Martins, morador nesta vila.

. Teresa, n. 16.12.1706 - CCA #202. Filha de Manuel da Costa e Margarida da 
Costa, moradores às 

hortas. Pd: Pe. Gonçalo Martins, freguês e natural desta paróquia.

. Teresa (2.ª do nome), n. 15.1.1708- CCA #227. Filha de Manuel da Costa 
Carvalho e Margarida 

da Costa. Pd: Sebastião Lopes e sua mulher Joana de Lima, moradores nesta 
vila. 

. Teresa (3.ª do nome), n. 15.9.1709 - CCA #249. Filha de Manuel da Costa e 
Margarida da Costa, 

moradores às hortas e fregueses desta igreja Matriz de São Miguel e dela 
naturais. Pd: Sebastião 

de Arruda e sua irmã Luzia Carvalho, moradores nos Arrifes, freguesia de 
São Mateus da cidade de 

Ponta Delgada.

. Francisca, n. 3.11.1710 - CCA #9. Filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e 
Margarida da Costa. Pd: 

Sebastião de Arruda, solteiro, natural da freguesia de São Mateus, Ponta 
Delgada.

 

Obs.: Na Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo em 20.1.1708 - CCA #227, há o 
batismo de Teresa filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e Margarida da Costa. 
Pd: Sebastião Lopes e sua mulher Joana de Lima, fregueses desta Matriz. 
(Termo de batismo repetido)

 

 

  3.* Margarida da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 

 

 

*Third Generation*

 

  4.* Gaspar da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
died before 1704. He married Luzia Carvalho on 25 Feb 1670 in Matriz, Vila 
Franca do Campo. 

 

Casamento - CCA #3

Morador na Ribeira Seca, Vila Franca do Campo.

 

 

  5.* Luzia Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 

 

  6.* Manuel da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
died before 1704. He 

married Catarina de Lima on 16 Oct 1681 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 

 

Casamento - CCA #35

Morador nas Hortas, Vila Franca do Campo.

 

 

  7.* Catarina de Lima * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 

 

 

*Fourth Generation*

 

  8.* André Fernandes * was born on 8 Dec 1602 in Matriz, Ribeira 
Grande. He married Beatriz da Costa on 19 Dec 1639 in Matriz, Vila Franca 
do Campo. 

 

Batismo - CCA #231. Pd: Francisco Pires Paiva e Ana Pires.

Casamento - CCA #139

 

 

  9.* Beatriz da Costa * was born in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. 

 

10.* Manuel Raposo * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
married Águeda Carvalho. 

 

11.* Águeda Carvalho * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 

 

12.* Antonio da Costa * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
died before 1681. He married Maria Fernandes. 

 

Antonio da Ponte - Morador na Matriz de Ponta Delgada, e possivelmente 
natural de São Roque.

Há na Matriz de Ponta Delgada o casamento de Antonio da Ponte e Maria de 
Resendes em 27.6.

1645 - EC #56. Ele é filho de Antonio da Ponte e Maria da Costa, ambos 
falecidos, de S. Roque.

Idem, 29.5.1651 - CCA #61, casamento de João da Costa com Luzia Coelho. Ele 
é filho de Antonio 

da Ponte e Maria da Costa.

 

 

13.* Maria Fernandes * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 

 

Moradora na Matriz de Ponta Delgada, e possivelmente natural de São Roque.

 

 

14.* Mateus Jorge * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. He 
married Ana Ribeiro on 26 Dec 1649 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 

 

Casamento - CCA #189

 

 

15.* Ana Ribeiro * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 

 

 

*Fifth Generation*

 

16.* Gaspar Fernandes * was born on 9 Dec 1571 in Matriz, Ribeira 
Grande. He died before 1625. He married Margarida Fernandes on 1 Jan 1599 
in Matriz, 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Domingos Correa baptism

[mances]

Thank you so much John,

You solved the puzzle!

Manuel da Costa who married in Ponta Garça on 16 dec 1704 went by the 
alcunha "bandolim" and his prior wife Margarida da Costa died on 31 may 
1704:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1704-1727/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1704-1727_item1/P8.html

So I'm quite sure that my ancestor is the one who married in Matriz de Vila 
Franca on 25 may 1704, the son of Gaspar da Costa and Luzia de Carvalho, 
'morador nas hortas' after his marriage to Margarida da Costa whose parents 
lived there.

Manoel



Em quarta-feira, 20 de julho de 2016 01:16:45 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>
> More interesting info. Note mother is Luzia Carvalha which ties into 
> Manuel Costa Carvalho?
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P144.html
>
> VFSM casamentos- May 25- 1704, Manoel da Costa filho de Gaspar da Costa 
> que Deos tem, e de *Luzia Carvalha* moradores a Ra. Seca desta villa 
> (part of VFSM on border with Ponta Garca and today a vlllage) com Margarida 
> da Costa filha de Manoel da Costa, ja defunto, e de Catharina de Lima 
> moradores nas Hortas nesta mesma villa todos freg desta Arcanjo de Sam 
> Miguel.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749_item1/P48.html
>
> PG casamentos- Feb 14- 1703, Manoel da Costa natural do lugar da Povoacao 
> freg. de NS Mae de Deos, filho de Joao da Costa e Izabel da Costa ja 
> defunta tembem naturais desta freg. com Margarida da Costa filha de Anto 
> Jorge ja defunto e de Maria Cabral moradores nesta sic (Villa de Ponta 
> Garca freg de NS da Piedade donde sao naturais...
> Test- Capt Joao Moniz Perdigao, Francisco Botelho, Joseph da Costa Simas
>
>
> JR
>
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 11:23:49 PM UTC-4, mances wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, John.
>>
>> It's a very interesting information. I think there were in Matriz de Vila 
>> Franca do Campo in that time period two couples of Manuel da Costa and 
>> Margarida da Costa.
>>
>> Here are the children I have for them in Matriz de Vila Franca:
>>
>> Filhos batizados na Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo:
>> . Domingos, b. 26.2.1698 - CCA #24. Filho de Manuel da Costa e Margarida 
>> da Costa. Pd: Domingos de Melo, alfaiate, e a parteira Catarina da Costa.
>> . Manuel, b. 26.3.1701 - CCA #71. Filho de Manuel da Costa bandolim (sic) 
>> e Margarida da Costa. Pd: André Barbosa da Silva, e a parteira Maria de 
>> Lima?, todos morades nesta vila e fregueses desta igreja.
>> . Luzia, n. 1812.1703 - CCA #135.  Filha de Manuel da Costa e Margarida 
>> da Costa, moradores nesta vila e dela naturais. Pd: Manuel Mendes e a 
>> parteira Catarina de Lima.
>> . José, n. 29.3.1705 - CCA #160. Filho de Manuel da Costa e Margarida da 
>> Costa, moradores às hortas. Pd: Pe. Gonçalo Martins, morador nesta vila.
>> . Teresa, n. 16.12.1706 - CCA #202. Filha de Manuel da Costa e Margarida 
>> da Costa, moradores às hortas. Pd: Pe. Gonçalo Martins, freguês e natural 
>> desta paróquia.
>> . Teresa (2.ª do nome), n. 15.1.1708- CCA #227. Filha de Manuel da Costa 
>> Carvalho e Margarida da Costa. Pd: Sebastião Lopes e sua mulher Joana de 
>> Lima, moradores nesta vila. 
>> . Teresa (3.ª do nome), n. 15.9.1709 - CCA #249. Filha de Manuel da Costa 
>> e Margarida da Costa, moradores às hortas e fregueses desta igreja Matriz 
>> de São Miguel e dela naturais. Pd: Sebastião de Arruda e sua irmã Luzia 
>> Carvalho, moradores nos Arrifes, freguesia de São Mateus da cidade de Ponta 
>> Delgada.
>> . Francisca, n. 3.11.1710 - CCA #9. Filha de Manuel da Costa Carvalho e 
>> Margarida da Costa. Pd: Sebastião de Arruda, solteiro, natural da freguesia 
>> de São Mateus, Ponta Delgada.
>>
>> Obs.: Na Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo em 26.8.1707 - CCA #218, há o 
>> batismo de Miguel filho de Manuel da Costa bandolim (sic) e Ana Moniz, sua 
>> mulher. Pd: Miguel de Paiva.
>> Idem, em 20.1.1708 - CCA #227, há o batismo de Teresa filha de Manuel da 
>> Costa Carvalho (sic) e Margarida da Costa. Pd: Sebastião Lopes e sua mulher 
>> Joana de Lima, fregueses desta Matriz.
>>
>> Manoel
>>
>> Em terça-feira, 19 de julho de 2016 21:06:58 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>>>
>>> More info:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749_item1/P55.html
>>>
>>> PG casamentos- Dec 16- 1704, Manoel da Costa viuvo de Margarida da 
>>> Costa, natural de VFSM, com Anna Moniz viuva de

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Domingos Correa baptism

[mances]

gt;> Vila Franca Do Campo. 
>>
>> + 5 Fiv. *Josefa da Trindade COSTA [2227]* 1 nasceu a 18 Jan 1734 em 
>> Matriz, Vila Franca Do Campo. 
>>
>>6 Mv. *Jose COSTA [2228]* 1 nasceu a 14 Dez 1738 em Matriz, Vila 
>> Franca Do Campo. 
>>
>>7 Mvi. *Francisco COSTA [2291]* 1 nasceu a 21 Ago 1731 em Matriz, 
>> Vila Franca Do Campo. 
>>
>> Segunda geração (Filhos)
>> --
>>
>> *5. Josefa da Trindade COSTA [2227]* 1 (*João da1*) nasceu a 18 Jan 1734 
>> em Matriz, Vila Franca Do Campo. 
>>
>> Josefa casou com *João FURTADO* [4183] 2 [MRIN: 1416], filho de *Francisco 
>> da COSTA* [4224] 1 e *Maria FURTADO* [6150],3 a 15 Fev 1756 em São 
>> Roque, Ponta Delgada. João nasceu a 21 Abr 1726 em Matriz, Vila Franca Do 
>> Campo.
>>
>> *Eventos de relevo no casamento:*
>>
>> • Casamento alt.
>>
>> *Eventos de relevo na sua vida:*
>>
>> • Baptismo: 25 Abr 1726, Matriz, Vila Franca Do Campo. 
>>
>> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>>
>>8 Fi. *Madalena Francisca [1810]* 1 nasceu em São Roque, Ponta 
>> Delgada. 
>>
>> Madalena casou com *José de MEDEIROS* [1809] 1 [MRIN: 1176], filho de 
>> *Antonio 
>> de MEDEIROS* [4181] 1 e *Antonia FURTADO* [4182],1 a 3 Dez 1788 em 
>> Matriz, Vila Franca Do Campo.
>>
>> Notas sobre o casamento: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P187.html
>>  
>>
>>9 Fii. *Ana da Costa FURTADO [7400]* 4 nasceu a 23 Jul 1756 em 
>> São Roque, Ponta Delgada, e faleceu a 1 Set 1829 em São Roque, Ponta 
>> Delgada com 73 anos de idade. 
>>
>> Notas gerais: ggdaughter of Margarida Furtado from Vila Franca)
>>
>> Ana casou com *Vicente FURTADO* [10607] 4 [MRIN: 4131], filho de *Mateus 
>> de SOUSA* [7379] 4 e *Maria FURTADO* [10581],4 a 20 Ago 1781 em Matriz, 
>> Vila Franca Do Campo. Vicente nasceu a 20 Dez 1746 em Matriz, Vila Franca 
>> Do Campo, e faleceu a 16 Nov 1811 em São Roque, Ponta Delgada com 64 anos 
>> de idade. Vicente também usou o nome Vicente Furtado SOUSA.
>>
>> terça-feira, 19 de Julho de 2016 às 16:34:33 UTC, mances escreveu:
>>>
>>> Julio,
>>>
>>> Thank you. They are my ancestors and here's what I have about them so 
>>> far:
>>>
>>> *Ahnentafel Chart for João da Costa*
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *First Generation*
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>   1.* João da Costa * was born on 5 Dec 1704 in Matriz, Vila Franca 
>>> do Campo. He died on 14 Jul 1744 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Batismo - CCA #154. Pd: João Botelho Pacheco filho do capitão Fernão de 
>>> Macedo e a parteira 
>>>
>>> Catarina de Lima, todos fregueses desta igreja.
>>>
>>> Casamento - CCA #192 - EC #33. Test: João Bento Botelho, casado.
>>>
>>> Óbito - CCA #104. Seu pai lhe mandou celebrar 7 missas e 3 mais em altar 
>>> privilegiado.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> João married *Francisca da Costa * daughter of Manuel da Costa Carvalho 
>>> and Margarida da Costa on 24 May 1728 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>> Francisca was born on 3 Nov 1710 in Matriz, Vila Franca do Campo. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *Second Generation*
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>   2.* João da Costa Romeiro * was born about 1680 in Matriz, Vila 
>>> Franca do Campo. He married Maria da Cunha on 19 Feb 1702 in Matriz, Vila 
>>> Franca do Campo. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Casamento - CCA #110. Test. O capitão Fernando de Macedo e Silvestre de 
>>> Freitas.
>>>
>>> Faleceu entre 1744 e 1764
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Filhos batizados na Matriz de Vila Franca:
>>>
>>> . João, b. 10.12.1704, n. 5.12.1704 - CCA #154. Pd: João Botelho Pacheco 
>>> filho do capitão Fernão 
>>>
>>> de Macedo e a parteira Catarina de Lima, todos fregueses desta igreja.
>>>
>>> . Luiz, n. 22.8.1707 - CCA #218.  Filho de João da Costa Romeiro e Maria 
>>> da Cunha, moradores às 
>>>
>>> hortas, fregueses desta paróquia e dela naturais. Pd: Bento Belchior 
>>> Manuel filho do capitão 
>>>
>>> Fernando Macedo Botelho, e Teresa de Freitas filha familiar de Silvestre 
>>> de Freitas e de Ana

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Domingos Correa baptism

[mances]

Miguel. He 
died after 1633. He married Isabel Gonçalves. 

 

61.* Isabel Gonçalves * was born about 1567 in Capelas, São Miguel. She 
died on 4 Sep 1633 in São Roque, São Miguel. 

 

Óbito - CCA #40. De idade de 66 anos mais ou menos.

 

 

62.* Domingos Gonçalves * was born in São Roque, São Miguel. He died 
before 1628. He married Maria de Paiva. 

 

63.* Maria de Paiva * was born in São Roque, São Miguel. 

 

Manoel César Furtado

Em terça-feira, 19 de julho de 2016 11:02:30 UTC-3, Júlio escreveu:
>
> hello I have this *1. Maria da CUNHA [2231]*,1 filha de *João de Matos 
> FAGUNDES* [32959] 1 e *Maria da CUNHA* [33080],1 nasceu em Matriz, Vila 
> Franca Do Campo. 
>
> Maria casou com *João da Costa ROMEIRO* [2229] 1 [MRIN: 1417], filho de 
> *Manuel 
> da Costa ROMEIRO* [32718] 1 e *Ana da COSTA* [32841],1 a 19 Fev 1702 em 
> Matriz, Vila Franca Do Campo. João nasceu em Matriz, Vila Franca Do Campo.
>
> Notas sobre o casamento: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P110.html
>  
>
> *Filhos deste casamento:*
>
> + 2 Mi. *João da COSTA [4220]* 1 nasceu a 5 Dez 1704 em Matriz, Vila 
> Franca Do Campo. 
>
>3 Mii. *Filipe da COSTA [2235]* 1 nasceu a 25 Jul 1720 em Matriz, 
> Vila Franca Do Campo. 
>
>4 Miii. *Luis da COSTA [2236]* 1 nasceu a 22 Ago 1707 em Matriz, 
> Vila Franca Do Campo. 
>
>5 Fiv. *Maria [2237]* 1 nasceu a 21 Dez 1702 em Matriz, Vila 
> Franca Do Campo. 
>
>6 Mv. *Felipe [25794]* nasceu a 25 Jul 1720 em Matriz, Vila Franca 
> Do Campo. 
>
> segunda-feira, 18 de Julho de 2016 às 17:10:17 UTC, mances escreveu:
>>
>> Sandra,
>>
>> Domingos Correia and Isabel da Cunha are my ancestors too. I descend from 
>> their daughter Maria da Cunha baptized in São Roque on 24 aug 1656 and 
>> married there on 22 jan 1679 to João de Matos Fagundes from Matriz de Vila 
>> Franca do Campo the son of Manuel Curvelo and Ana de Matos..
>>
>> Manoel César Furtado
>>
>> Em domingo, 17 de julho de 2016 15:43:50 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>>>
>>> Cheri, I have his marriage to Isabel da Cunha so I know his surname is 
>>> Correa. Thank you.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The 2nd on the left is the baptism of a Domingos. Baptisms do not list 
>>>> the surname. No way to know if he was a Correia or not. Cheri
>>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Domingos Correa baptism

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Julio,

Here's the marriage of Domingos Correia and Isabel da Cunha.
Left page, middle:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1622-1707/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1622-1707_item1/P46.html

Manoel

Em terça-feira, 19 de julho de 2016 11:02:52 UTC-3, Júlio escreveu:
>
> hello who have the Mariage of Domingos Correia and Isabel da Cunha??
>
> terça-feira, 19 de Julho de 2016 às 00:30:38 UTC, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>>
>> Manoel, I descend from their daughter, Apolonia.  She maried Antonio 
>> Rodrigues, however I cannot find their marriage.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 10:10 AM, mances <man...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sandra,
>>>
>>> Domingos Correia and Isabel da Cunha are my ancestors too. I descend 
>>> from their daughter Maria da Cunha baptized in São Roque on 24 aug 1656 and 
>>> married there on 22 jan 1679 to João de Matos Fagundes from Matriz de Vila 
>>> Franca do Campo the son of Manuel Curvelo and Ana de Matos..
>>>
>>> Manoel César Furtado
>>>
>>> Em domingo, 17 de julho de 2016 15:43:50 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>>>>
>>>> Cheri, I have his marriage to Isabel da Cunha so I know his surname is 
>>>> Correa. Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The 2nd on the left is the baptism of a Domingos. Baptisms do not list 
>>>>> the surname. No way to know if he was a Correia or not. Cheri
>>>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Groom's mother

[mances]

Cheri,

Here's the link for the marrriage:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADINHA-C-1701-1796/SMG-ND-ACHADINHA-C-1701-1796_item1/P87.html

Antonio Cabral de Melo is son of Manuel Cabral de Melo and Maria de 
Resendes, from Achada.

Manoel


Em domingo, 10 de julho de 2016 13:34:29 UTC-3, Cheri Mello escreveu:
>
> Manoel,
> Antonia de Miranda/dePimentelher groom, Antonio Cabral de Melowho 
> are his parents or what is the CCA image number?
> Thanks,
> Cheri
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Groom's mother

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Antonia de Miranda also known as Antonia Rosa de Pimentel married Antonio 
Cabral de Melo in Achadinha on 13 dec 1742. She is the daughter of 
Bernardino de Pimentel e Vasconcelos and Teresa de Miranda de Mendonça 
married in Achadinha on 30 jan 1708. Bernardino is the son of captain 
Manuel de Pimentel and Maria Pacheco. Teresa is the daughter of Antonio de 
Matos and Maria Vieira.

 

Manoel

Em sábado, 9 de julho de 2016 21:06:31 UTC-3, jemendonca642 escreveu:
>
> Top-Right, 10th line.  I think it's Antonia do* Miranda*, but not sure?
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADINHA-C-1701-1796/SMG-ND-ACHADINHA-C-1701-1796_item1/P137.html
>
> Thanks.
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation help after brides name indicating she is a widow

[mances]

Not yet, Cheri :)
I just have them in my files as I descend from Miguel de Noia and Úrsula 
Roiz.

Unfortunately they are the end of the line and here's what I have so far 
about them:

. São Pedro de Vila Franca, 26.5.1658 - EC #168, casamento de Manuel Roiz, 
filho de Miguel da Noia e Úrsula Roiz (fs.), com Catarina Fernandes, filha 
de Lourenço Roiz e Lúcia Fernandes.
. Matriz  de Vila Franca em 1612 - CCA #58, casamento de um Bento de Noia, 
viúvo. (Há um Bento de Noia e Maria Jorge que batizaram um filho em 1579 - 
CCA #128, na Matriz de Vila Franca).
. Matriz de Vila Franca, 17.11.1649 - CCA #186, casamento de João Roiz, 
filho de Miguel de Noia e Úrsula Roiz, com Isabel de Oliveira, filha de 
Sebastião de Oliveira e Clara Gonçalves (f.).
. São Pedro de Vila Franca, 3.4.1651, casamento de Francisco Martins de 
Noia, filho de Miguel de Noia e Úrsula Roiz, com Catarina da Costa, filha 
de João de Deus, morador em Água do Alto, e de Maria da Costa, filha de 
F..? Furtado e Maria Roiz (RR - cap. 327, 1)

They are in Genealogias de Carlos Machado as well:

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GENEALOGIAS-CARLOSMACHADO/GENEALOGIAS-CARLOSMACHADO_item1/P554.html

Manoel




Filhos batizados na Matriz de Vila Franca:
. Maria, b. 13.6.1616 - CCA #9. Filha de Miguel de Noe (com um trema no 
'e') e Úrsula Roiz. Pd: Isidro Roiz e Maria Fonseca.
. Francisco, b. 14.10.1618 - CCA #24. Pd: Manuel da Gra. (Guerra?) e Ana de 
Araújo.
. Maria (2ª do nome), b. 23.7.1621 - CCA #40. Pd: Gaspar Teixeira e Maria 
Vultoa mulher de Pedro Curvelo (Obs.: Rui Furtado de Sousa é padrinho de 
batismo de um filho de Pedro Curvelo e Maria Vultoa)
. João, b. 16.6.1624 - CCA #57. Pd: Baltazar Moreira e Maria do Couto, 
moradores nesta freguesia.
. Miguel, b. 30.11.1626 - CCA #76. Filho de Miguel de Noe e Úrsula Roiz. 
Pd: Antonio Teixeira e Helena Gonçalves.

. São Pedro de Vila Franca, 9.7.1634 - CCA #15, batismo de Domingos, filho 
de Miguel de Noia e de Isabel (sic) Rodrigues, moradores à Vila Nova desta 
freguesia. Pd: Sebastião Pires filho de Miguel Pires, e Ana de Fontes filha 
de Antonio Salgado, moradores nesta freguesia.




He

Em sexta-feira, 24 de junho de 2016 19:56:27 UTC-3, Cheri Mello escreveu:
>
> Sorry, not JR, I meant to say Manoel (César Furtado). Manoel has 
> Kryptonite eyes.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Cheri Mello  > wrote:
>
>> JR, Wow, do you have Kryptonite in your eyes? LOL I thought we ran out of 
>> records. 
>>
>> So now these people you list are the End of the Line ancestors, correct?
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Researching Antónia de São José, daughter of Manoel Jozé da Cunha and Maria de São José, Topo, São Jorge

[mances]

You're right, Cheri.

Manoel

Em sexta-feira, 24 de junho de 2016 14:55:27 UTC-3, Cheri Mello escreveu:
>
> I think it's legitimizing her, but we'll wait for a better translation.
>
> The margin note of the "legitimization" is referring to the baptism that 
> took place before where the father was named as "pai incognito."
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci  > wrote:
>
>> Marie, this is great news!! I wish I could read the doc word-for-word but 
>> it will need to be someone that reads the language well. 
>>
>> Rosemarie 
>> rcap...@gmail.com 
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Marie  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eric:
>>>
>>> Sorry for the blank responses--have had too much caffeine this morning.
>>>
>>> Antonia was born 9 August 1812 before her parents were married.  Her 
>>> baptism record confirms the names of her mother and maternal grandparents.  
>>> See  top right  
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1801-1815/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1801-1815_item1/P197.html
>>>
>>>   Then in 1817 ( top left) her parents, who were married in 1814 brought 
>>> her to the church, for a ceremony to perhaps "legitimize" her??  The record 
>>> verifies her DOB, but I cannot read what follows. 
>>>
>>>  We need a person more fluent to explain this record and notes in the 
>>> margins of both records. 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1815-1828/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1815-1828_item1/P34.html
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> Marie Borba Volbeda
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 6:44:23 PM UTC-7, Eric Souza wrote:
>>>
 I've been searching for the birth record for my third 
 great-grandmother, Antónia de São José, from Topo, São Jorge. She is the 
 mother of my great-great-grandfather, Manoel Jozé da Cunha (13 Feb 1843) - 
 Manoel's father is unknown, which unfortunately is where my direct 
 paternal 
 line ends.

 I've found records for four of Antónia's siblings:

 Maria da Cunha (20 May 1816)
 Manoel da Cunha (5 Sep 1817)
 Maria da Cunha (20 Nov 1822)
 Manoel da Cunha (Nov 1825)

 Parents are Manoel Jozé da Cunha (28 Mar 1773) and Maria de São José.

 I've gone through a couple of times and haven't found her! Ugh! I 
 especially looked through the gap between 1817 and 1822, but also looked a 
 few years before and after.

 Does this name ring a bell for anyone?

 Thanks!
 - Eric

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation help after brides name indicating she is a widow

[mances]

Here's the marriage of João Roiz [Noia] and Isabel de Oliveira on 17 nov 
1649  in Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo.
Bottom:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1599-1662_item1/P186.html

- João Roiz is the son of Miguel de Noia and Úrsula Roiz
- Isabel de Oliveira is the daughter of Sebastião de Oliveira and Clara 
Gonçalves (d.)

João was baptised in Matriz de Vila Franca do Campo on 16.6.1624 - CCA #57

Miguel de Noia and Úrsula Roiz are my ancestors too. They married on 5 sep 
1615 in Rosário, Lagoa. The record doesn't list their parents.


Manoel César Furtado



Em sexta-feira, 24 de junho de 2016 16:00:43 UTC-3, Cheri Mello escreveu:
>
> Marriage of Manuel da Souza and Bernarda d'Oliveira, right center:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P19.html
>
> So now you have Bernarda's parents, but that's as far back as you'll get. 
> You're out of records.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Cheri Mello  > wrote:
>
>> Her death, top left
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1728-1749/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1728-1749_item1/P40.html
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Manita M > > wrote:
>>
>>> Speaking of mtdna... 
>>>
>>>
>>> http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/06/24/science/mitochondrial-dna-mothers.html?smid=fb-nytscience=cur&_r=1=http://m.facebook.com/
>>> On Jun 24, 2016 1:51 PM, "Cheri Mello"  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have them.

 I do not have Bernarda de Oliveira's baptism. I only have her father as 
 Manuel da Sousa and mother as Maria de Oliveira who died before 5 Jun 
 1710. 
 No source on that. Ugh!!

 I have Bernanda's marriage and death. That's it.
 Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with name--Marriage, Relva, 1774

[mances]

Nancy,

I have seen "de Arruda" written as "da Ruda". Not sure but maybe is "de 
Ruda" (de Arruda).
You have to look for the children born to this couple or all the marriages 
of their children to figure it out..

Manoel

Em quarta-feira, 22 de junho de 2016 20:41:31 UTC-3, Richard Francis 
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>
> *I don’t think it is Machada. The first letter is definitely not an “M” 
> and the writer spelled all the other names out fully so an abbreviation 
> there makes no sense.  I am not sure but the name is not common.*
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
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> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
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> *Epping, NH*
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>  
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> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
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> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with name--Marriage, Relva, 1774
>
>  
>
> Possibly Machada?? You will have to try and find that couple having 
> children to verify, Nancy!! 
>
>  
>
>
> Rosemarie 
>
> rcap...@gmail.com 
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> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
>  
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 9:55 AM, NancyC  
> wrote:
>
> Can anyone help me decipher the second name (surname or religious name) of 
> the groom's mother? (Right page, lines 19-20.) I've been staring at it for 
> two days and am totally baffled. Here's what I have:
>
>  
>
> Francisco de Couto, filho de Antonio do Couto, e de Antonia de __? 
> What looks like a three-letter word or abbreviation ends the line, and the 
> next line starts with "da." In context the word "da" does not make sense, 
> so I believe it is a continuation of the three-letters on the previous 
> line. I've checked the Family Search guides to Portuguese paleography and 
> can't find anything that matches. 
>
>  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780_item1/P94.html
>
>  
>
> I will appreciate any insights or advice you can offer.
>
>  
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Nancy
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bottom left record - hard to read - think bride's name is Barbara da Costa

[mances]

Cathy,

Hello cousin! I think I found the birth record for your José Tavares in 
Rabo de Peixe.
Top left, 1st record:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1642-1689/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1642-1689_item1/P214.html

1 jun 1678, José son of Francisco Tavares, single, the son of Francisco 
Pires, deceased; and Maria Fernandes Navarro, single. Godparents: João de 
Sousa Vieira and Bárbara da Silva, midwife.

That's very interesting, it's the third line we are connected to. I also 
descend from Maria Fernandes Navarro! Can you believe it? She married 
Antonio Pereira in Rabo de Peixe on 26 feb 1693 - CCA #50, but 
unfortunately the record doesn´t mention their parents.

I think it's possible that your Francisco Tavares was born in Rabo de Peixe 
on 6 nov 1639 - CCA #80 and was the son of Francisco Pires and Isabel 
Cabral married in Rabo de Peixe on 15 nov 1634 - CCA #27.  Francisco Pires 
was the son of Antonio Dias and Isabel Nunes. Isabel Cabral was the 
daughter of Baltazar Tavares and Maria da Silva.
This Francisco is the only one that was born in Rabo de Peixe before 1662 
until 1639 that had a father named Francisco Pires.

Manoel




Em sábado, 18 de junho de 2016 17:37:45 UTC-3, cathybourgeois1218 escreveu:
>
> Manoel:
>
> This is such awesome information.  Obviously you are way ahead of me on 
> ancestors.  So, we are cousins!
>
> I really appreciate your sharing all of this and helping me to validate 
> that I'm on the right track with my research.
>
> Cathy
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bottom left record - hard to read - think bride's name is Barbara da Costa

[mances]

Hi Cathy,

We are also connected through the line of your João Martins de Fontes the 
son of Dionísio de Fontes and Maria Pereira or Martins. Our common ancestor 
is Domingos Martins [Viana] married with Ana Raposo in Candelária on 6 feb 
1614.

Here's what I found:

Marriages:

 

1 - São Roque - 3 jan 1693

Dionísio de Fontes (son of Pedro Garcia and Bárbara de Fontes – from the 
island of Santa Maria)

x

Maria Martins, or Pereira ( dau. of Gonçalo Martins and Ana Pereira)

 

2 - São Roque – 24 aug 1667

Gonçalo Martins (Gaspar Martins and Úrsula Carvalho – from Candelária)

x

Ana Pereira, widow

 

3 - Candelária – 29 may 1639

Gaspar Martins (Domingos Martins and Ana Raposo)

x

Úrsula Carvalho (Pedro Gonçalves de Carvalho and Maria Luiz)

 

4 - Candelária – 6 feb 1614

Domingos Martins (Gaspar Esteves and Isabel Gonçalves)

x

Ana Raposo (Belchior Gonçalves and Ana Raposo)

 

5 – Candelária - 3 jan 1598

Pedro Gonçalves de Carvalho x Maria Luiz (the record doesn’t list the 
parents)

 

*Ahnentafel Chart for Baltazar Martins (the brother of your Gaspar Martins)*

 

 

*First Generation*

 

  1.* Baltazar Martins * was born in Candelária, São Miguel. He died 
before 1689. 

 

Casamento  - CCA #82

Test: Manuel Vaz Loureiro e Belchior Roiz, e Margarida de Sousa mulher de 
Manuel Vaz Loureiro.

 

RR

Cap.º 416º, § Único

4 - Baltazar Martins, natural da Candelária. Casou em S. José de Ponta 
Delgada a 25.10.1660 com 

Maria Carvalho, filha de Gerónimo Cabral e Águeda Carvalho.

 

Baltazar married *Maria Carvalho * daughter of Jerônimo Cabral and Águeda 
Carvalho on 25 Oct 1660 in São José, Ponta Delgada. Maria was born in São 
José, Ponta Delgada. 

 

 

*Second Generation*

 

  2.* Domingos Martins Viana * was born in Candelária, São Miguel. He 
married Ana Raposo on 6 Feb 1614 in Candelária, São Miguel. 

 

RR

Cap.º 416º, § Único

3 - Domingos Martins Viana, que casou em Candelária a 6.2.1614 com Ana 
Raposo, filha de 

Belchior Gonçalves e Ana Raposo.

 

 

  3.* Ana Raposo * was born in Candelária, São Miguel. 

 

RR

Cap.º 416º, § Único

3 - Domingos Martins Viana, que casou em Candelária a 6.2.1614 com Ana 
Raposo, filha de 

Belchior Gonçalves e Ana Raposo.

 

 

 

*Third Generation*

 

  4.* Gaspar Esteves * was born in Candelária, São Miguel. He died 
before 1614. He married Isabel Gonçalves on 20 Apr 1584 in Candelária, São 
Miguel. 

 

RR

Cap.º 416º, § Único

2 - Gaspar Esteves, que casou em Candelária a 20.4.1584 com Isabel 
Gonçalves, filha de Gonçalo 

Enes ou Anes e Leonor Manuel.

 

 

  5.* Isabel Gonçalves * was born in Candelária, São Miguel. 

 

RR

Cap.º 416º, § Único

2 - Gaspar Esteves, que casou em Candelária a 20.4.1584 com Isabel 
Gonçalves, filha de Gonçalo 

Enes ou Anes e Leonor Manuel.

 

 

  6.* Belchior Gonçalves * was born in Candelária, São Miguel. He died 
before 1614. He married Ana Raposo. 

 

RR

Cap.º 416º, § Único

3 - Domingos Martins Viana, que casou em Candelária a 6.2.1614 com Ana 
Raposo, filha de 

Belchior Gonçalves e Ana Raposo.

 

 

  7.* Ana Raposo * was born in Candelária, São Miguel. 

 

RR

Cap.º 416º, § Único

3 - Domingos Martins Viana, que casou em Candelária a 6.2.1614 com Ana 
Raposo, filha de 

Belchior Gonçalves e Ana Raposo.

 

 

 

*Fourth Generation*

 

  8.* João Esteves * was born in Candelária, São Miguel. He married 
Inês Enes. 

 

RR

CAPÍTULO 416.º

DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE JOÃO ESTEVES, DA CANDELÁRIA

§ Único

1 - João Esteves, morador na Candelária. Casou com Inês Enes.

 

 

  9.* Inês Enes * was born in Candelária, São Miguel. 

 

RR

CAPÍTULO 416.º

DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE JOÃO ESTEVES, DA CANDELÁRIA

§ Único

1 -  João Esteves, morador na Candelária. Casou com Inês Enes.

 

 

10.* Gonçalo Enes * was born in Candelária, São Miguel. He married 
Leonor Manuel. 

 

RR

Cap.º 416º, § Único

2 - Gaspar Esteves, que casou em Candelária a 20.4.1584 com Isabel 
Gonçalves, filha de Gonçalo 

Enes ou Anes e Leonor Manuel.

 

 

11.* Leonor Manuel * was born in Candelária, São Miguel. 

 

RR

Cap.º 416º, § Único

 

2 - Gaspar Esteves, que casou em Candelária a 20.4.1584 com Isabel 
Gonçalves, filha de Gonçalo 

Enes ou Anes e Leonor Manuel.

 

 


Manoel César Furtado


Em sábado, 18 de junho de 2016 07:51:22 UTC-3, cathybourgeois1218 escreveu:
>
> Just making sure I have the right ancestors.  I had Isabel de Mello born 
> 7/4/1708 in Sao Roque (married to Joao Martins de Fontes on 6/3/1724).  Her 
> parents are Jose Tavares and Barbara da Costa (Jose was born in Rabo de 
> Peixe).  Barbara's parents (if I have the right record) are Joao da Costa 
> Faleiro and Margarida da Costa.  Unless I have the wrong Jose Tavares and 
> Barbara da Costa.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bottom left record - hard to read - think bride's name is Barbara da Costa

[mances]

Hi Cathy,

Here's what I have about them so far:

*Ahnentafel Chart for Manuel da Costa Faleiro*

 

 

*First Generation*

 

  1.* Manuel da Costa Faleiro * was born on 15 Sep 1668 in São Roque, 
São Miguel. 

Manuel married *Ana Roiz * daughter of Manuel Martins and Maria Roiz on 9 
May 1694 in São Roque, São Miguel. Ana was born on 31 Dec 1670 in São 
Roque, São Miguel. 

 

 

*Second Generation*

 

  2.* João da Costa Faleiro * was born on 2 Jun 1641 in São Roque, São 
Miguel. He died on 22 Nov 1709 in São Roque, São Miguel. He married 
Margarida da Costa on 6 Feb 1662 in São Roque, São Miguel. 

 

Batismo - CCA #4. Pd: Roque Álvares filho de Melchior Afonso, e Águeda 
Fernandes, desta 

freguesia.

Casamento - CCA  #59

Óbito - CCA #17. João da Costa Faleiro de idade de 60 anos mais ou menos. 
Não Fez testamento.

 

 

  3.* Margarida da Costa * was born on 24 Aug 1643 in São Roque, São 
Miguel. 

 

Batismo - CCA #11. Pd: Roque Álvares da Costa, e Maria Francisca mulher de 
Pedro Gonçalves 

Lordelo, todos desta freguesia.

 

 

 

*Third Generation*

 

  4.* Tomé da Costa * was born about 1610 in São Roque, São Miguel. He 
died after 1674. He married Úrsula Fernandes on 23 Oct 1633 in São Roque, 
São Miguel. 

 

Casamento - CCA #17

 

Filhos batizados em São Roque:

. Manuel, b. 5.6.1636 - CCA #73. Pd: Jerônimo Gonçalves filho de Domingos 
Gonçalves Cadimo, e 

Catarina Vultoa filha de Maria Vultoa, todos desta freguesia.

. Isabel, b. 11.11.1638 - CCA #82. Pd: Manuel Afonso filho de Melchior 
Afonso, e Isabel de Sousa 

filha de Isabel de Sousa, viúva, todos desta freguesia.

. João, b. 2.6.1641 - CCA #4. Pd: Roque Álvares filho de Melchior Afonso, e 
Águeda Fernandes, 

desta freguesia.

 

 

  5.* Úrsula Fernandes * was born about 1612 in Santa Clara, Ponta 
Delgada, São Miguel. She died on 10 Oct 1674 in São Roque, São Miguel. 

 

Óbito - CCA #91

 

 

  6.* Antonio da Costa * was born in Morador em São Roque, São Miguel. 
He died before 1652. He married Maria Coelho. 

 

Filhos batizados em São Roque:

. Manuel, b. 8.5.1633 - CCA #61. Pd: Manuel Roiz filho de Francisco 
Gonçalves Cheira, e Ana Luiz 

filha de Roque Gonçalves do Canto.

. Miguel, b. 12.5.1635 - CCA #68. Pd: Roque Álvares filho de Pedro Seco, 
falecido, e a parteira 

Catarina Gonçalves.

. Maria, b. 7.2.1638 - CCA #80. Pd: Manuel da Silva filho de Tomé de Sousa, 
e Ana de Sousa filha 

de Beatriz Fernandes, viúva, todos desta freguesia.

. Antonio, b. 13.6.1640 - CCA #87. Pd: Roque Álvares da Costa e a parteira 
Catarina Gonçalves.

. João, b. 3.8.1642 - CCA #8. Pd: Pedro Gonçalves Nordelo e sua filha Maria 
da Costa, moradores 

nesta freguesia.

. Margarida, b. 24.8.1643 - CCA #11. Pd: Roque Álvares da Costa, e Maria 
Francisca mulher de 

Pedro Gonçalves Nordelo, todos desta freguesia.

 

 

  7.* Maria Coelho * was born in Moradora em São Roque, São Miguel. She 
died on 10 Feb 1672 in São Roque, São Miguel. 

 

   Informações a confirmar, pois não achei o óbito de 
Antonio da Costa em São Roque:

Óbito - CCA #86. Maria Coelho mulher de Domingos Machado Roiz (sic) 
[segundo marido].

. São Roque, 11.10.1652 – CCA #44, segundo casamento de Maria Coelho, 
viúva, com Domingos 

Roiz Machado, viúvo.

 

 

 

*Fourth Generation*

 

  8.* Francisco da Costa * was born in São Roque, São Miguel. He died 
before 1633. He married Maria Faleiro. 

 

  9.* Maria Faleiro * was born in São Roque, São Miguel. She died 
before 1633. 

 

10.* André Gonçalves * was born in Morador em Santa Clara, Ponta 
Delgada, São Miguel. He died before 1633. He married Isabel Roiz. 

 

11.* Isabel Roiz * was born in Moradora em Santa Clara, Ponta Delgada, 
São Miguel. She died before 1633. 

 


Manoel César Furtado

Em sexta-feira, 17 de junho de 2016 16:18:06 UTC-3, cathybourgeois1218 
escreveu:
>
> Manoel:
>
> It's funny that you sent this message.  I just hit upon their marriage 
> record and you validated it with the post.
>
> Do you have any other information going further back for these folks?  I 
> am also a descendent, just starting out on this adventure.  Margaret 
> Vincente has been very helpful on some of my other ancestors, as well.  My 
> original grandparents Manuel Mello (from Sao Vicente) and his wife Maria da 
> Gloria de Oliveira (from Livramento) were the only relatives I knew from 
> the Azores.  In just a few months, I have expanded the tree a lot with a 
> lot of great folks in the group.  
>
> Thanks,
> Cathy
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 1:15 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> I descend from João da Costa Faleiro and Margarida da Costa married in 
>> São Roque on 6 feb 1662 - CCA #59.
>>
>> Manoel
>>
>> Em sexta-feira, 17 de junho de 2016 13:58:21 UTC-3, cathybourgeois1218 
>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> And thank you Ma

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bottom left record - hard to read - think bride's name is Barbara da Costa

[mances]

I descend from João da Costa Faleiro and Margarida da Costa married in São 
Roque on 6 feb 1662 - CCA #59.

Manoel

Em sexta-feira, 17 de junho de 2016 13:58:21 UTC-3, cathybourgeois1218 
escreveu:
>
> And thank you Margaret
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Cathy Bourgeois  > wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Eric!
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Eric Souza > > wrote:
>>
>>> It's in pretty bad shape, but I tried to darken it up a little ...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 5:42:39 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 That's one of those pages that had the solution put on it to enhance 
 it. The actual book looks fine. It's the filming that makes it look like 
 it's in a haze.

 Maybe one of the graphic people here can enhance it.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: General help with record, please.

[mances]

These people are in RR's book (chapter 83 and 105).
Pedro Coelho [de Alpoim] and Violante Coelho.
João de Torres [Quintanilha] and Maria Jorge, single woman.

Manoel César Furtado


Em terça-feira, 14 de junho de 2016 22:34:10 UTC-3, jemendonca642 escreveu:
>
> What I believe I know is:
>  
> April 3,1625 marriage of Francisco Coelho son of Pedro Coelho and his wife 
> Catarina Coelho, already deceased (her or both?) and Maria de Torres 
> daughter of Pedro de Torres and Maria Jorge(?).  That's about all I have.  
> I would like to know how much I have right or wrong.
>  
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1611-1646/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1611-1646_item1/P18.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA ponta delgada

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Hi cousin George,

I descend twice from them.
My mother's line that kept the surname Botelho comes from their daughter 
Luzia, and my father 's line from their daughter Maria.

Manoel

Em segunda-feira, 16 de maio de 2016 18:42:19 UTC-3, Moreno22 escreveu:
>
> Alfers Roque Alvares do Couto and Luzia Botelho are my 9th Great 
> Grandparents
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Keith Pimental <kpsre...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> Manoel,
>> The Botelhos I know about are the parents of one Caterina Izabel in 1806, 
>> Their names were Antonio Botelho and Barbara da Conceiçao, Antonioºs father 
>> was José Botelho. I donºt have their datees yet but obvioullsy in the 1700's
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:16 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Keith, my Botelho line from my maternal grandfather Francisco Botelho is 
>>> also from São Roque and goes back to Luzia Botelho married with Roque 
>>> Álvares do Couto on 12 nov 1629 in São Roque, Rosto do Cão (RR - Cap. 134º, 
>>> N.º 4,  § 2.º).
>>>
>>> Around 1810 they moved to Rosário, Lagoa, and then to Brazil in 1880.
>>>
>>> Manoel César Furtado
>>>
>>> Em segunda-feira, 16 de maio de 2016 15:41:55 UTC-3, HK Pimental 
>>> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>> HI Angela,
>>>> My grand parents were from São Roque Rosto de Cão as well. It wasn't a 
>>>> very big parish so I wonder if we share a connection My paternal great 
>>>> grand parents ancestors were Pereira and Botelho and Cunha.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Ângela Loura <angel...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Monica,
>>>>>
>>>>> My great grandfather was from São Roque Rosto de Cão and he setted in  
>>>>> Santa Maria where he married my great grandmother and remained there till 
>>>>> he died.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-05-16 15:59 GMT+01:00 Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The CCA is complete for ALL islands. I'm pretty sure the site is 
>>>>>> finished with everything they planned to upload. It is my understanding 
>>>>>> that nothing new is planned.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for moving from island to island, it depends. Some of the central 
>>>>>> islands are close together, so some movement can be seen between those 
>>>>>> islands more so than seeing people move from Sao Miguel (they are more 
>>>>>> likely to move somewhere else on Sao Miguel lsland in my opinion).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>>>>>> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA ponta delgada

[mances]

Keith, my Botelho line from my maternal grandfather Francisco Botelho is 
also from São Roque and goes back to Luzia Botelho married with Roque 
Álvares do Couto on 12 nov 1629 in São Roque, Rosto do Cão (RR - Cap. 134º, 
N.º 4,  § 2.º).

Around 1810 they moved to Rosário, Lagoa, and then to Brazil in 1880.

Manoel César Furtado

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>
> HI Angela,
> My grand parents were from São Roque Rosto de Cão as well. It wasn't a 
> very big parish so I wonder if we share a connection My paternal great 
> grand parents ancestors were Pereira and Botelho and Cunha.
>
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Ângela Loura  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Monica,
>>
>> My great grandfather was from São Roque Rosto de Cão and he setted in  
>> Santa Maria where he married my great grandmother and remained there till 
>> he died.
>>
>> 2016-05-16 15:59 GMT+01:00 Cheri Mello :
>>
>>> The CCA is complete for ALL islands. I'm pretty sure the site is 
>>> finished with everything they planned to upload. It is my understanding 
>>> that nothing new is planned.
>>>
>>> As for moving from island to island, it depends. Some of the central 
>>> islands are close together, so some movement can be seen between those 
>>> islands more so than seeing people move from Sao Miguel (they are more 
>>> likely to move somewhere else on Sao Miguel lsland in my opinion).
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>>> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Charles ROPOZLE

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You will find Sanches in Ribeira Grande and Lagoa, São Miguel, in the 
1600's as well.

Manoel

Em terça-feira, 3 de maio de 2016 10:12:21 UTC-3, Mara escreveu:
>
> Sanches also prominent in Sao Jose and Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada, Sao 
> Miguel.
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:44 AM, Cheri Mello  > wrote:
>
>> Good to know. Don't think I've seen Sanches in my freguesias. 
>> On May 2, 2016 10:23 PM, "Rosemarie Capodicci" > > wrote:
>>
>>> I have the Sanchez name in 
>>> Norte Grande, Sao Jorge, Azores. In later records it's Sanches, with an 
>>> 's'. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rosemarie 
>>> rcap...@gmail.com 
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 8:09 AM,  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 My Great Grandfather (Joseph Charles Ropozle DOB 1874) and his wife 
 (Mary Ropozle nee Sanchez DOB 1876) were born in the Azores and immigrated 
 to the US in 1891. I'm wondering how I can verify family details in the 
 Azores? His father was named Charles Ropozle and he was born in 1852.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage Pedro Fernandes & Catarina Lopes?

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Hard to read, but here I go:
Francisco ...?  Moniz, Manuel Pereira, Matias Carreiro, Miguel Carreiro, 
Apolinário da Costa, Clemente? Roiz.

Manoel


Em segunda-feira, 18 de abril de 2016 18:18:08 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>
> Manoel, I just found the marriage of Dionsio Fragoso and Catarina de 
> Revoredo.  Can you help me with the witnesses? 3rd from top.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1555-1610/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1555-1610_item1/P100.html
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 1:41 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Sandra,
>> I descend from Ana Fragoso the daughter of Dionísio Fragoso and Catarina 
>> de Revoredo. She married Francisco Pereira in Matriz da Lagoa on 5 aug 1632 
>> and died in Rosário da Lagoa on 27 dec 1690.
>>
>> Manoel
>>
>> Em segunda-feira, 18 de abril de 2016 16:50:22 UTC-3, Sandra Perez 
>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> Manoel, I descend from Catarina Lopes (9th g-grandmother).  Who do you 
>>> descend from?  
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 9:23 AM, mances <man...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that Dionísio Fragoso who married Isabel Lopes is the son of my 
>>>> ancestors Dionísio Fragoso and Catarina de Revoredo married in Matriz da 
>>>> Lagoa on 20 sep 1593 - CCA #100.
>>>>
>>>> Manoel Cesar Furtado
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Em domingo, 17 de abril de 2016 09:40:39 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think you missed anything, it's just a difficult record. I do 
>>>>> know that Isabel is Isabel Lopes, but certainly not from reading that 
>>>>> record! I believe all these Fragosos appear to be related. But proving it 
>>>>> is another matter. I think Manuel and Margaret have Fragoso ancestors. 
>>>>> The 
>>>>> majority appear to be in Lagoa.
>>>>>
>>>>> JR
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, April 16, 2016 at 2:26:59 PM UTC-4, Sandra Perez wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Found: Nov or Dec 1665 Pedro Fernandes fo ? Fernandes? e Margarida 
>>>>>> Rois (deceased) nal NS Rosario Rois married Catharina ? fa Denisio? 
>>>>>> Fragoso 
>>>>>> e Isabel? ?--top.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1656-1676/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1656-1676_item1/P26.html
>>>>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage Pedro Fernandes & Catarina Lopes?

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Sandra,
I descend from Ana Fragoso the daughter of Dionísio Fragoso and Catarina de 
Revoredo. She married Francisco Pereira in Matriz da Lagoa on 5 aug 1632 
and died in Rosário da Lagoa on 27 dec 1690.

Manoel

Em segunda-feira, 18 de abril de 2016 16:50:22 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>
> Manoel, I descend from Catarina Lopes (9th g-grandmother).  Who do you 
> descend from?  
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 9:23 AM, mances <man...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> I think that Dionísio Fragoso who married Isabel Lopes is the son of my 
>> ancestors Dionísio Fragoso and Catarina de Revoredo married in Matriz da 
>> Lagoa on 20 sep 1593 - CCA #100.
>>
>> Manoel Cesar Furtado
>>
>>
>> Em domingo, 17 de abril de 2016 09:40:39 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>>>
>>> I don't think you missed anything, it's just a difficult record. I do 
>>> know that Isabel is Isabel Lopes, but certainly not from reading that 
>>> record! I believe all these Fragosos appear to be related. But proving it 
>>> is another matter. I think Manuel and Margaret have Fragoso ancestors. The 
>>> majority appear to be in Lagoa.
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 16, 2016 at 2:26:59 PM UTC-4, Sandra Perez wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Found: Nov or Dec 1665 Pedro Fernandes fo ? Fernandes? e Margarida Rois 
>>>> (deceased) nal NS Rosario Rois married Catharina ? fa Denisio? Fragoso e 
>>>> Isabel? ?--top.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1656-1676/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1656-1676_item1/P26.html
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage Pedro Fernandes & Catarina Lopes?

[mances]

I think that Dionísio Fragoso who married Isabel Lopes is the son of my 
ancestors Dionísio Fragoso and Catarina de Revoredo married in Matriz da 
Lagoa on 20 sep 1593 - CCA #100.

Manoel Cesar Furtado

Em domingo, 17 de abril de 2016 09:40:39 UTC-3, JR escreveu:
>
> I don't think you missed anything, it's just a difficult record. I do know 
> that Isabel is Isabel Lopes, but certainly not from reading that record! I 
> believe all these Fragosos appear to be related. But proving it is another 
> matter. I think Manuel and Margaret have Fragoso ancestors. The majority 
> appear to be in Lagoa.
>
> JR
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2016 at 2:26:59 PM UTC-4, Sandra Perez wrote:
>>
>> Found: Nov or Dec 1665 Pedro Fernandes fo ? Fernandes? e Margarida Rois 
>> (deceased) nal NS Rosario Rois married Catharina ? fa Denisio? Fragoso e 
>> Isabel? ?--top.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1656-1676/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1656-1676_item1/P26.html
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Travassos vs Travalos

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ingo, 3 de abril de 2016 10:55:31 UTC-3, Altino escreveu:
>
> Hi cousin Manoel,
>
> I thought we might be related since we were researching the same villages. 
> Once you go back to the time of the early settlers, it is easier to make 
> connections.
>
> I am a descendant of their daughter Margarida who married Antonio 
> Gonçalves in Candelaria May 2, 1652.
>
>
> 
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 2, 2016, at 8:04 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> Altino,
>
> Barnabé Travassos and Mécia de Sousa are my ancestors too. I descend from 
> their daughter Isabel de Sousa who married Manuel Diniz in Candelária on 13 
> apr 1643 - CCA #55.
>
> Manoel César Furtado
>
> Em sábado, 2 de abril de 2016 16:51:51 UTC-3, Altino escreveu:
>>
>> Sandra, I have a Nicolau de Sous married to Maria Carvalho in 1659 in 
>> Candelaria, Sao Miguel.
>> He is the son of Barnabé Travassos and Mecia de Sousa. (I think your 
>> Tavalos is really Travassos).  Barnabé is my 10th great grandfather.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Sandra Perez <perezsa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have Sebastiao Travalos married to Margarida de Sousa Azevedo (no 
>> marriage found yet).  They had several children.  The first child I found 
>> was Maria
>> b. 21 Sep 1688 in Rosto de Cao, Sao Roque.  Her marriage is the only 
>> record where I found the Name AZEVEDO attached to Margarida.  They had a 
>> son,Nicolau de Sousa ( my 5th g-grandfather).  Margarida also had a brother 
>> named Nicolau de Sousa.  I have always thought that Margarida's father was 
>> a Nicolau de Sousa. I found some info on RR that believe may be Sebastiao 
>> and Margarida.
>>
>> Maria's marriage to Antonio Ferreira 1 Jun 1713--top left.
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1707-1732/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1707-1732_item1/P23.html
>>
>> Margarida's brother, Nicolau de Sousa's death record mentions his 
>> brother-in-law, Sebastiao Travalos--top left.
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-O-1704-1754/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-O-1704-1754_item1/P25.html
>>
>> Passage from RR:
>>
>> *2)   Nicolau de Sousa Azevedo (N.º 4 § 1.º)*
>>
>> A 6.4.1742 habilitou-se ao legado de Tomé Alvares de Azevedo na 
>> Misericórdia de Ponta Delgada Antónia de Sousa, filha de Manuel de Sousa, 
>> moradores em Rosto de Cão demonstrando o seguinte: que a dita habilitada e 
>> sua irmã Maria Sousa, casada com António de Sousa e já habilitada em 1738 
>> como parenta em 6.º grau do instituidor eram filhas de Manuel de Sousa e 
>> sua mulher Isabel de Sousa, o qual Manuel de Sousa era filho de António 
>> Correia e de sua mulher Maria de Sousa ou Leda já habilitada em 1654 e 
>> filha de Nicolau de Sousa Azevedo, morador em Rosto de Cão filho de 
>> Francisco Lopes Ribeiro e de Ana de Sousa, esta última por seu turno filha 
>> de Maria de Azevedo, irmã de Filipa Marques, mãe do instituidor.
>>
>> Também aparece como filha de Nicolau de Sousa Azevedo Margarida de Sousa 
>> que se habilita em 1684 e já prometida em casamento com Sebastião Travassos 
>> filho de Manuel Travassos morador à Calheta de Ponta Delgada. Os atrás 
>> citados António Correia e Maria de Sousa são pais de Lourenço de Sousa, 
>> morador em Rosto de Cão que do seu casamento com Josefa de Almeida tiveram 
>> uma filha Maria de Sousa que em 1734 se habilitou ao referido legado.
>>
>>  
>> I put in translator website but it was very confusing.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Travassos vs Travalos

[mances]

Altino,

Barnabé Travassos and Mécia de Sousa are my ancestors too. I descend from 
their daughter Isabel de Sousa who married Manuel Diniz in Candelária on 13 
apr 1643 - CCA #55.

Manoel César Furtado

Em sábado, 2 de abril de 2016 16:51:51 UTC-3, Altino escreveu:
>
> Sandra, I have a Nicolau de Sous married to Maria Carvalho in 1659 in 
> Candelaria, Sao Miguel.
> He is the son of Barnabé Travassos and Mecia de Sousa. (I think your 
> Tavalos is really Travassos).  Barnabé is my 10th great grandfather.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 2, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Sandra Perez  > wrote:
>
> I have Sebastiao Travalos married to Margarida de Sousa Azevedo (no 
> marriage found yet).  They had several children.  The first child I found 
> was Maria
> b. 21 Sep 1688 in Rosto de Cao, Sao Roque.  Her marriage is the only 
> record where I found the Name AZEVEDO attached to Margarida.  They had a 
> son,Nicolau de Sousa ( my 5th g-grandfather).  Margarida also had a brother 
> named Nicolau de Sousa.  I have always thought that Margarida's father was 
> a Nicolau de Sousa. I found some info on RR that believe may be Sebastiao 
> and Margarida.
>
> Maria's marriage to Antonio Ferreira 1 Jun 1713--top left.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1707-1732/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1707-1732_item1/P23.html
>
> Margarida's brother, Nicolau de Sousa's death record mentions his 
> brother-in-law, Sebastiao Travalos--top left.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-O-1704-1754/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-O-1704-1754_item1/P25.html
>
> Passage from RR:
>
> *2)   Nicolau de Sousa Azevedo (N.º 4 § 1.º)*
>
> A 6.4.1742 habilitou-se ao legado de Tomé Alvares de Azevedo na 
> Misericórdia de Ponta Delgada Antónia de Sousa, filha de Manuel de Sousa, 
> moradores em Rosto de Cão demonstrando o seguinte: que a dita habilitada e 
> sua irmã Maria Sousa, casada com António de Sousa e já habilitada em 1738 
> como parenta em 6.º grau do instituidor eram filhas de Manuel de Sousa e 
> sua mulher Isabel de Sousa, o qual Manuel de Sousa era filho de António 
> Correia e de sua mulher Maria de Sousa ou Leda já habilitada em 1654 e 
> filha de Nicolau de Sousa Azevedo, morador em Rosto de Cão filho de 
> Francisco Lopes Ribeiro e de Ana de Sousa, esta última por seu turno filha 
> de Maria de Azevedo, irmã de Filipa Marques, mãe do instituidor.
>
> Também aparece como filha de Nicolau de Sousa Azevedo Margarida de Sousa 
> que se habilita em 1684 e já prometida em casamento com Sebastião Travassos 
> filho de Manuel Travassos morador à Calheta de Ponta Delgada. Os atrás 
> citados António Correia e Maria de Sousa são pais de Lourenço de Sousa, 
> morador em Rosto de Cão que do seu casamento com Josefa de Almeida tiveram 
> uma filha Maria de Sousa que em 1734 se habilitou ao referido legado.
>
>  
> I put in translator website but it was very confusing.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Travassos vs Travalos

[mances]

You're right. And I wonder ... I think all of us descend from the Travassos 
line of São Miguel.

Manoel

Em sexta-feira, 1 de abril de 2016 22:18:08 UTC-3, Mara escreveu:
>
> Hi and if I may ad regarding original spelling some priests used the soft 
> "C" or single "S" instead of the double SS.  Travacos, Travasos i/o 
> Travassos. We should take a look at the original.
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 8:55 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Sandra,
>>
>> There's no Travalos in portuguese. My mother language is portuguese and I 
>> have never seen this word.
>>
>> Manoel
>>
>>
>> Em sexta-feira, 1 de abril de 2016 20:19:09 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>>>
>>> Are theses names interchangable?
>>>
>>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Travassos vs Travalos

[mances]

Sandra,

There's no Travalos in portuguese. My mother language is portuguese and I 
have never seen this word.

Manoel


Em sexta-feira, 1 de abril de 2016 20:19:09 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
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> Are theses names interchangable?
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

[mances]

In short, I understand it is implicit in the text that they were not 
married because they were relatives with a forbidden degree of 
consanguinity and they will ask for the dispensation.

Manoel

Em quinta-feira, 31 de março de 2016 18:04:21 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>
> What does it say?
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:15 AM, mances <man...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Sandra,
>>
>> Yes, you're right, and it's a very interesting record.
>>
>> Here's what I read:
>> " ... hua menina f.a de João Camello e Barbara Muniz, que entre elles 
>> ouverão, e por serem parentes em grao proibido impetrão breve de ..? 
>> santidade ..."
>> "...uma menina filha de João Camelo e Bárbara Moniz, que entre eles 
>> houveram e por serem parentes em grau proibido impetram breve ..? 
>> santidade.."
>>
>> Manoel
>>
>>
>> Em quinta-feira, 31 de março de 2016 11:00:35 UTC-3, Sandra Perez 
>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> Thank you.  Manoel did I have Joao Camelo Pereira and Barbara Monis' 
>>> marriage and their daughter, Maria's, early birth correct?  Why would 
>>> they wait five years to marry?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:50 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sandra,
>>>>
>>>> I know of a Furtado's line which is connected to Moniz Vieira and 
>>>> Bettencourt in Fenais da Ajuda in that time period.
>>>> Captain Braz Furtado de Medeiros married Maria Moniz Vieira and I think 
>>>> that she may be connected to Bárbara Moniz de Bettencourt.
>>>>
>>>> Manoel 
>>>>
>>>> Em quarta-feira, 30 de março de 2016 19:56:31 UTC-3, Sandra Perez 
>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> Manoel, Capt. Braz Monis Pereira fo Joao Camelo Pereira and Dona 
>>>>> Barbara Monis de Battencout was padrinho to my 5th g-grandfather, Manoel
>>>>> Pereira. Manoel was the son of Manoel Furtado Seixas & Maria Pereira 
>>>>> (no marriage for them--6th mo. gap in records).  There seems to be close 
>>>>> ties of this family to Manoel Furtado's family.  Do you know of any 
>>>>> Furtados connected to the Camelo Pereiras?  I did find a Manoel Furtado 
>>>>> for 
>>>>> padrinho for 
>>>>> one of their children born in Fernais da Ajuda.  Also, I just found 
>>>>> Joao Camelo Pereira e Barbara Monis' marriage, however their daughter, 
>>>>> Maria was born way before they married!  Tell what you think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joao Camelo Pereira e Barbara Monis 12 Nov 1679.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1622-1683/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1622-1683_item1/P169.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Maria 10 Feb 1674--top right.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1662-1699/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1662-1699_item1/P37.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:40 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sandra,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gaspar Camelo Pereira
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The witness: Rui Vaz de Medeiros
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gaspar Camelo Pereira and Guiomar Álvares Pinheiro are my ancestors 
>>>>>> too. They are in Rodrigo Rodrigues book.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sebastião Vieira Machado and Bárbara de Medeiros [Camelo] are in the 
>>>>>> RR book as well. I have common ancestors with these people too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manoel César Furtado
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Em quarta-feira, 30 de março de 2016 18:11:04 UTC-3, Sandra Perez 
>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Need help with bride's father and the first witness.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 12 Oct 1611 Sebastiao Vieira Machado fo Gaspar Vieira Rocha e Maria 
>>>>>>> Lourenco da Costa
>>>>>>> married Barbara de Medeiros fa ? Camelo Pereira e Guimar Alvres 
>>>>>>> Pinheira.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Witnesses: ? de Medeiros e Antonio de Paiva.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-P

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

[mances]

Sandra,

Yes, you're right, and it's a very interesting record.

Here's what I read:
" ... hua menina f.a de João Camello e Barbara Muniz, que entre elles 
ouverão, e por serem parentes em grao proibido impetrão breve de ..? 
santidade ..."
"...uma menina filha de João Camelo e Bárbara Moniz, que entre eles 
houveram e por serem parentes em grau proibido impetram breve ..? 
santidade.."

Manoel


Em quinta-feira, 31 de março de 2016 11:00:35 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>
> Thank you.  Manoel did I have Joao Camelo Pereira and Barbara Monis' 
> marriage and their daughter, Maria's, early birth correct?  Why would 
> they wait five years to marry?
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:50 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Sandra,
>>
>> I know of a Furtado's line which is connected to Moniz Vieira and 
>> Bettencourt in Fenais da Ajuda in that time period.
>> Captain Braz Furtado de Medeiros married Maria Moniz Vieira and I think 
>> that she may be connected to Bárbara Moniz de Bettencourt.
>>
>> Manoel 
>>
>> Em quarta-feira, 30 de março de 2016 19:56:31 UTC-3, Sandra Perez 
>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> Manoel, Capt. Braz Monis Pereira fo Joao Camelo Pereira and Dona Barbara 
>>> Monis de Battencout was padrinho to my 5th g-grandfather, Manoel
>>> Pereira. Manoel was the son of Manoel Furtado Seixas & Maria Pereira (no 
>>> marriage for them--6th mo. gap in records).  There seems to be close ties 
>>> of this family to Manoel Furtado's family.  Do you know of any Furtados 
>>> connected to the Camelo Pereiras?  I did find a Manoel Furtado for padrinho 
>>> for 
>>> one of their children born in Fernais da Ajuda.  Also, I just found Joao 
>>> Camelo Pereira e Barbara Monis' marriage, however their daughter, Maria was 
>>> born way before they married!  Tell what you think.
>>>
>>> Joao Camelo Pereira e Barbara Monis 12 Nov 1679.
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1622-1683/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1622-1683_item1/P169.html
>>>
>>> Maria 10 Feb 1674--top right.
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1662-1699/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1662-1699_item1/P37.html
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:40 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sandra,
>>>>
>>>> Gaspar Camelo Pereira
>>>>
>>>> The witness: Rui Vaz de Medeiros
>>>>
>>>> Gaspar Camelo Pereira and Guiomar Álvares Pinheiro are my ancestors 
>>>> too. They are in Rodrigo Rodrigues book.
>>>>
>>>> Sebastião Vieira Machado and Bárbara de Medeiros [Camelo] are in the RR 
>>>> book as well. I have common ancestors with these people too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Manoel César Furtado
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Em quarta-feira, 30 de março de 2016 18:11:04 UTC-3, Sandra Perez 
>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> Need help with bride's father and the first witness.
>>>>>
>>>>> 12 Oct 1611 Sebastiao Vieira Machado fo Gaspar Vieira Rocha e Maria 
>>>>> Lourenco da Costa
>>>>> married Barbara de Medeiros fa ? Camelo Pereira e Guimar Alvres 
>>>>> Pinheira.
>>>>>
>>>>> Witnesses: ? de Medeiros e Antonio de Paiva.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1584-1615/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1584-1615_item1/P108.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sandra Perez
>>>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

[mances]

Sandra,

I know of a Furtado's line which is connected to Moniz Vieira and 
Bettencourt in Fenais da Ajuda in that time period.
Captain Braz Furtado de Medeiros married Maria Moniz Vieira and I think 
that she may be connected to Bárbara Moniz de Bettencourt.

Manoel 

Em quarta-feira, 30 de março de 2016 19:56:31 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>
> Manoel, Capt. Braz Monis Pereira fo Joao Camelo Pereira and Dona Barbara 
> Monis de Battencout was padrinho to my 5th g-grandfather, Manoel
> Pereira. Manoel was the son of Manoel Furtado Seixas & Maria Pereira (no 
> marriage for them--6th mo. gap in records).  There seems to be close ties 
> of this family to Manoel Furtado's family.  Do you know of any Furtados 
> connected to the Camelo Pereiras?  I did find a Manoel Furtado for padrinho 
> for 
> one of their children born in Fernais da Ajuda.  Also, I just found Joao 
> Camelo Pereira e Barbara Monis' marriage, however their daughter, Maria was 
> born way before they married!  Tell what you think.
>
> Joao Camelo Pereira e Barbara Monis 12 Nov 1679.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1622-1683/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1622-1683_item1/P169.html
>
> Maria 10 Feb 1674--top right.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1662-1699/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1662-1699_item1/P37.html
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:40 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Sandra,
>>
>> Gaspar Camelo Pereira
>>
>> The witness: Rui Vaz de Medeiros
>>
>> Gaspar Camelo Pereira and Guiomar Álvares Pinheiro are my ancestors too. 
>> They are in Rodrigo Rodrigues book.
>>
>> Sebastião Vieira Machado and Bárbara de Medeiros [Camelo] are in the RR 
>> book as well. I have common ancestors with these people too.
>>
>>
>> Manoel César Furtado
>>
>>
>> Em quarta-feira, 30 de março de 2016 18:11:04 UTC-3, Sandra Perez 
>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> Need help with bride's father and the first witness.
>>>
>>> 12 Oct 1611 Sebastiao Vieira Machado fo Gaspar Vieira Rocha e Maria 
>>> Lourenco da Costa
>>> married Barbara de Medeiros fa ? Camelo Pereira e Guimar Alvres Pinheira.
>>>
>>> Witnesses: ? de Medeiros e Antonio de Paiva.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1584-1615/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1584-1615_item1/P108.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sandra Perez
>>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage please.

[mances]

Sandra,

Gaspar Camelo Pereira

The witness: Rui Vaz de Medeiros

Gaspar Camelo Pereira and Guiomar Álvares Pinheiro are my ancestors too. 
They are in Rodrigo Rodrigues book.

Sebastião Vieira Machado and Bárbara de Medeiros [Camelo] are in the RR 
book as well. I have common ancestors with these people too.


Manoel César Furtado

Em quarta-feira, 30 de março de 2016 18:11:04 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>
> Need help with bride's father and the first witness.
>
> 12 Oct 1611 Sebastiao Vieira Machado fo Gaspar Vieira Rocha e Maria 
> Lourenco da Costa
> married Barbara de Medeiros fa ? Camelo Pereira e Guimar Alvres Pinheira.
>
> Witnesses: ? de Medeiros e Antonio de Paiva.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1584-1615/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1584-1615_item1/P108.html
>
>
>
>
> Sandra Perez
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help confirm marriage please.

[mances]

Sandra,

It's written:
Forão t.as (foram testemunhas): Manuel Fernandes Azevedo?, Manuel Roiz, 
Matias Barreiro?, e Amador Gonçalves ...

Manoel

Em segunda-feira, 21 de março de 2016 11:29:47 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>
> Manoel, doesn't it say "fa" Dos. after Ma. Pereira?
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 6:00 AM, mances <man...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Sandra,
>>
>> The record doesn't list the parents. The names that you see are the 
>> witnesses.
>>
>> Manoel
>>
>>
>> Em domingo, 20 de março de 2016 18:02:03 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>>>
>>> 8 Jan 1600 Belchoir Lucas e Maria Pereira.  Maria's parents: Dos. ? Frz 
>>> e Ma? Roiz?  I also see Matias Carreira? and Amador Gtz. I also believe 
>>> Belchoir had a prior marriage--2nd from bottom.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1555-1610/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1555-1610_item1/P108.html
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help confirm marriage please.

[mances]

Sandra,

The record doesn't list the parents. The names that you see are the 
witnesses.

Manoel

Em domingo, 20 de março de 2016 18:02:03 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>
> 8 Jan 1600 Belchoir Lucas e Maria Pereira.  Maria's parents: Dos. ? Frz e 
> Ma? Roiz?  I also see Matias Carreira? and Amador Gtz. I also believe 
> Belchoir had a prior marriage--2nd from bottom.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1555-1610/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1555-1610_item1/P108.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ancestors from Santo Antonio Sao Miguel

[mances]

Hi Eliseu,

A also descend from Manuel de Sousa Benevides and Úrsula de Viveiros.
I saw in your tree that this couple married in Bretanha on 27 oct 1715; 
but, the couple that married on this date in Bretanha is actually Manuel do 
Couto Amaral and Úrsula de Viveiros Soeiro.

Manoel César Furtado

Em segunda-feira, 14 de março de 2016 09:54:05 UTC-3, Eliseu Pacheco da 
Silva escreveu:
>
> I have a line with VIVEIROS from Sto. António, Capelas, Ponta Delgada, S. 
> Miguel, Açores. Do you have a tree where we can meet? J
>
>  
>
> If you like please visit my tree at the adress bellow,
>
>  
>
> Muito Obrigado,
>
> *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva*
>
> *Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo)*
>
> (http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en)
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>  
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> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
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> 
> *Enviada:* 13 de março de 2016 16:00
> *Para:* Azores Genealogy 
> *Assunto:* [AZORES-Genealogy] ancestors from Santo Antonio Sao Miguel
>
>  
>
> I am currently researching my ancestor Francisca de Viveiros born Sep 12 
> 1650 died Nov 8 1717 in santo Antonio , sao Miguel  I am currently looking 
> for anything about her any information any one can help with. Please and 
> thank you 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Confirm my Pedro Rabello's birth.

[mances]

Sandra,

I think that her name is Maria Dias. I believe that the Rodrigues surname 
is a mistake made by the person who wrote the names of the spouses above 
the record and was not able to read correctly the abbreviation of her 
surname.
I have already seen this kind of mistake on the old marriage records for 
Ribeira Grande. The most common is the abbreviation Gls (Gonçalves) wrongly 
listed as Gomes.

Manoel

Em segunda-feira, 7 de março de 2016 15:01:01 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>
> Manoel, was her name Maria Dias Rodrigues?
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 8:09 AM, mances <man...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Sandra,
>>
>> According to RR the record doesn´t list the parents.
>>
>> Francisco Afonso x Maria Rodrigues (sic) - bottom, left page:
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1542-1582/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1542-1582_item1/P24.html
>>
>> Manoel
>>
>>
>>
>> Em segunda-feira, 7 de março de 2016 11:52:22 UTC-3, Sandra Perez 
>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> Manoel, does it who their parents were?  If they married in 1560 there 
>>> should be other children.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 6:27 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sandra,
>>>>
>>>> Francisco Afonso is in RR's book:
>>>>
>>>> CAPÍTULO 225.º
>>>> DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE FRANCISCO AFONSO
>>>> § Único
>>>> 1 - Francisco Afonso, já falecido em 1602. Casou na Matriz da Ribeira 
>>>> Grande em Novembro de 1560 (folhas 20 do Livro 1.º) com Maria Dias, ou 
>>>> Rodrigues, já falecida em 1602. O termo não diz os nomes dos pais dos 
>>>> nubentes.
>>>>
>>>> Manoel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 22:46:17 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> Manoel, I descend from their son Pedro Rabello--10th g-grandfather.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have:  Gaspar b.Feb 1563 p.3 ?? Gaspar Rabello maried Ma Rois fa 
>>>>> Miguel Rois (deceased) e ? Ges. 21 Oct 1592 p.28
>>>>> Cna b.Dec 1565 p.28 ??
>>>>> Domingos b.5 Oct 1567 p.59
>>>>> Guimar b.31 Oct 1571 p.130
>>>>> Baltazar b.25 Aug 1579 Padrinhos--Baltazar Rois fo Pedro Amador Rois & 
>>>>> Margarida de Sousa mulher de Fernao Pinho p. 266nto b.19 Mar 1573 p.150
>>>>> Maria b.26 Feb 1576 Padrinhos--Bras Martins e Isabel de Matos? p. 211
>>>>> Pedro b.25 Mar 1585 p.20 
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking for more info on Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 5:11 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sandra,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias are my ancestors too. I descend from 
>>>>>> their son Baltazar Rebelo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Filhos batizados na Matriz da Ribeira Grande:
>>>>>> . Guiomar, b. 31.10.1571 - CCA #130. Pd: Nicolau Gonçalves e Helena 
>>>>>> Manuel.
>>>>>> . Maria, b. 28.2.1576 - CCA #211. Filha de Francisco Afonso, da 
>>>>>> Ribeirinha, e de Maria Dias. Pd: Braz Martins e Isabel de Matos.
>>>>>> . Pedro, b. 25.3.1585 - CCA #20. Pd: Francisco Pires Paiva e a 
>>>>>> parteira Catarina Gonçalves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manoel Cesar Furtado
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 19:55:49 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this my Pedro? It is the only one that comes close. Pedro Rabello 
>>>>>>> fo Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias married Luisa Correia fa Antonio 
>>>>>>> Jorge 
>>>>>>> and Maria Mel.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Birth 25 Mar 1585--top right.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590_item1/P20.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marriage 6 Dec 1610--3rd on left.
>>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625_item1/P90.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Confirm my Pedro Rabello's birth.

[mances]

Sandra,

According to RR the record doesn´t list the parents.

Francisco Afonso x Maria Rodrigues (sic) - bottom, left page:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1542-1582/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1542-1582_item1/P24.html

Manoel



Em segunda-feira, 7 de março de 2016 11:52:22 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>
> Manoel, does it who their parents were?  If they married in 1560 there 
> should be other children.
>
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 6:27 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Sandra,
>>
>> Francisco Afonso is in RR's book:
>>
>> CAPÍTULO 225.º
>> DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE FRANCISCO AFONSO
>> § Único
>> 1 - Francisco Afonso, já falecido em 1602. Casou na Matriz da Ribeira 
>> Grande em Novembro de 1560 (folhas 20 do Livro 1.º) com Maria Dias, ou 
>> Rodrigues, já falecida em 1602. O termo não diz os nomes dos pais dos 
>> nubentes.
>>
>> Manoel
>>
>>
>> Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 22:46:17 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>>>
>>> Manoel, I descend from their son Pedro Rabello--10th g-grandfather.
>>>
>>> I have:  Gaspar b.Feb 1563 p.3 ?? Gaspar Rabello maried Ma Rois fa 
>>> Miguel Rois (deceased) e ? Ges. 21 Oct 1592 p.28
>>> Cna b.Dec 1565 p.28 ??
>>> Domingos b.5 Oct 1567 p.59
>>> Guimar b.31 Oct 1571 p.130
>>> Baltazar b.25 Aug 1579 Padrinhos--Baltazar Rois fo Pedro Amador Rois & 
>>> Margarida de Sousa mulher de Fernao Pinho p. 266nto b.19 Mar 1573 p.150
>>> Maria b.26 Feb 1576 Padrinhos--Bras Martins e Isabel de Matos? p. 211
>>> Pedro b.25 Mar 1585 p.20 
>>>
>>> Looking for more info on Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 5:11 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sandra,
>>>>
>>>> Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias are my ancestors too. I descend from 
>>>> their son Baltazar Rebelo.
>>>>
>>>> Filhos batizados na Matriz da Ribeira Grande:
>>>> . Guiomar, b. 31.10.1571 - CCA #130. Pd: Nicolau Gonçalves e Helena 
>>>> Manuel.
>>>> . Maria, b. 28.2.1576 - CCA #211. Filha de Francisco Afonso, da 
>>>> Ribeirinha, e de Maria Dias. Pd: Braz Martins e Isabel de Matos.
>>>> . Pedro, b. 25.3.1585 - CCA #20. Pd: Francisco Pires Paiva e a parteira 
>>>> Catarina Gonçalves.
>>>>
>>>> Manoel Cesar Furtado
>>>>
>>>> Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 19:55:49 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this my Pedro? It is the only one that comes close. Pedro Rabello 
>>>>> fo Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias married Luisa Correia fa Antonio Jorge 
>>>>> and Maria Mel.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Birth 25 Mar 1585--top right.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590_item1/P20.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Marriage 6 Dec 1610--3rd on left.
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625_item1/P90.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Confirm my Pedro Rabello's birth.

[mances]

Sandra,

Francisco Afonso is in RR's book:

CAPÍTULO 225.º
DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE FRANCISCO AFONSO
§ Único
1 - Francisco Afonso, já falecido em 1602. Casou na Matriz da Ribeira 
Grande em Novembro de 1560 (folhas 20 do Livro 1.º) com Maria Dias, ou 
Rodrigues, já falecida em 1602. O termo não diz os nomes dos pais dos 
nubentes.

Manoel


Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 22:46:17 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>
> Manoel, I descend from their son Pedro Rabello--10th g-grandfather.
>
> I have:  Gaspar b.Feb 1563 p.3 ?? Gaspar Rabello maried Ma Rois fa Miguel 
> Rois (deceased) e ? Ges. 21 Oct 1592 p.28
> Cna b.Dec 1565 p.28 ??
> Domingos b.5 Oct 1567 p.59
> Guimar b.31 Oct 1571 p.130
> Baltazar b.25 Aug 1579 Padrinhos--Baltazar Rois fo Pedro Amador Rois & 
> Margarida de Sousa mulher de Fernao Pinho p. 266nto b.19 Mar 1573 p.150
> Maria b.26 Feb 1576 Padrinhos--Bras Martins e Isabel de Matos? p. 211
> Pedro b.25 Mar 1585 p.20 
>
> Looking for more info on Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias
>
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 5:11 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Sandra,
>>
>> Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias are my ancestors too. I descend from 
>> their son Baltazar Rebelo.
>>
>> Filhos batizados na Matriz da Ribeira Grande:
>> . Guiomar, b. 31.10.1571 - CCA #130. Pd: Nicolau Gonçalves e Helena 
>> Manuel.
>> . Maria, b. 28.2.1576 - CCA #211. Filha de Francisco Afonso, da 
>> Ribeirinha, e de Maria Dias. Pd: Braz Martins e Isabel de Matos.
>> . Pedro, b. 25.3.1585 - CCA #20. Pd: Francisco Pires Paiva e a parteira 
>> Catarina Gonçalves.
>>
>> Manoel Cesar Furtado
>>
>> Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 19:55:49 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>>>
>>> Is this my Pedro? It is the only one that comes close. Pedro Rabello fo 
>>> Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias married Luisa Correia fa Antonio Jorge and 
>>> Maria Mel.
>>>  
>>> Birth 25 Mar 1585--top right.
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590_item1/P20.html
>>>
>>> Marriage 6 Dec 1610--3rd on left.
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625_item1/P90.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Confirm my Pedro Rabello's birth.

[mances]

Sandra,

Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias are my ancestors too. I descend from their 
son Baltazar Rebelo.

Filhos batizados na Matriz da Ribeira Grande:
. Guiomar, b. 31.10.1571 - CCA #130. Pd: Nicolau Gonçalves e Helena Manuel.
. Maria, b. 28.2.1576 - CCA #211. Filha de Francisco Afonso, da Ribeirinha, 
e de Maria Dias. Pd: Braz Martins e Isabel de Matos.
. Pedro, b. 25.3.1585 - CCA #20. Pd: Francisco Pires Paiva e a parteira 
Catarina Gonçalves.

Manoel Cesar Furtado

Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 19:55:49 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
>
> Is this my Pedro? It is the only one that comes close. Pedro Rabello fo 
> Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias married Luisa Correia fa Antonio Jorge and 
> Maria Mel.
>  
> Birth 25 Mar 1585--top right.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590_item1/P20.html
>
> Marriage 6 Dec 1610--3rd on left.
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625_item1/P90.html
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for any Fragoso descendants from Sao Miguel

[mances]

Hermano,

I am interested in the information you have on their children.

Manoel

Em sábado, 23 de janeiro de 2016 23:49:51 UTC-2, Hermano C. Pires escreveu:
>
> Manuel and Nancy
> We connect again for they are my 9th G-granpaents through their daughter 
> Ana.
> Nancy I can share the informatoin that I have on their other children if 
> you are interested (I have: Ana, Francisco, Domingos, Cosme, Dionisio).
> Thank you both for confirming my info.
> Hermano
>
>  
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> From: nvcou...@gmail.com 
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for any Fragoso descendants from 
> Sao Miguel
> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 11:40:32 -0500
> To: azo...@googlegroups.com 
>
> Dionísio Fragoso and Catarina de Revoredo are my 10th great-grandparents. 
> I descend from their son Domingos, who married Barbara (or Maria) Curvelo 
> on 21 Feb 1628. I don't have information on any of their other children.
>
> Nancy
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 23, 2016, at 10:16 AM, mances <man...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
> Dionísio Fragoso and Catarina de Revoredo married in Matriz da Lagoa on 20 
> sep 1593 are my ancestors too.
> I descend from their daughter Ana Fragoso who married Francisco Pereira in 
> Matriz da Lagoa on 5 aug 1632.
>
> Manoel Cesar Furtado
>
> Em sexta-feira, 22 de janeiro de 2016 22:56:45 UTC-2, Mara escreveu:
>
> Lagoa:  Dionisio Fragoso and Catarina de Revoredo.
>  
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 6:32 PM, <danan...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Margaret, who is your Fragoso ancestor?
>
>
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> *To: *"azores" <azo...@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent: *Friday, January 22, 2016 1:01:51 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for any Fragoso descendants 
> from Sao Miguel
>
> Well, there might be something to the story as I descend from the Fragoso 
> line of Lagoa, however two generations down the line one son carried on 
> with the Fragoso name while my ancestor took on the name Meireles.  His 
> son, was first married in Rabo de Peixe.  Linda mentions Madalena carried 
> the name Meireles which makes me wonder if there is indeed a connection.  
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:14 PM, JR <jmr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Manuel de Andrade Fragoso married Maria Madalena do Rego 
> Meireles/Meibeles? native of Rabo de Peixe, May 7- 1922. 
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1890-1899/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1890-1899_item1/P144.html
>
> Rabo de Peixe casamentos- Nov 4- 1896, Jacintho d' Andrade com 
> Escholastica de Jesus, dispensados, 4th degree collateral, 17 Oct, (1696?) 
> elle idade de trinta sies annos , pescador, viuvo de Maria de Jesus, 
> fallecida n'esta dita fraguesia d'onde e natural e seu pai e moradore e foi 
> baptizado, filho de Francisco de Andrade e Maria Candida natural da 
> fraguesia de NS da Conceicao dita Villa, e ella a nubente d' idade de vinte 
> e nove annos domestica, solteira, natural e seus pais d'esta graguesia do 
> Senhor Bom Jesus onde e moradora e foi baptizada, filha de Jose Vieira e 
> Maria Izabel...Test- Jose d'Amaral lavrador, morador n'esta fraguesia e 
> Joao Pacheco camponez morador na fraguesia do Cabouco...
>
> On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:02:06 PM UTC-5, Linda McLellan wrote:
>
> Thanks Cherri,  I will try to go back and do some more research
>
> On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 11:13:20 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Linda McL,
>
> You need to watch out for "family stories."  Sometimes, that is what they 
> are - just stories. Usually told to amuse the kids (especially before radio 
> and television). These kids grew up and became our parents or grandparents 
> and retold the stories that they heard as children. And childhood memories 
> can be funny things. No one wants to call grandma a liar, but if she is 
> telling a story that she heard as a child, it may be just a story that was 
> told to amuse her. Little kids are gullible and believe most things they 
> are told.
>
> Manuel's baptism had margin notes. Only 1 marriage was noted. I think it 
> said he married in the 1920s. Those records are not online. I've seen 
> margin notes where they noted the marriage, noted that the marriage was 
> dissolved by death of the spouse and they married a 2nd time. Could someone 
> have forgot to note a marriage? Well, they are human and humans make 
> mistakes. But probably not. The only way to be sure would be to order 
> Manuel's marriage from the 1920s and see if it says he was the widower of 
>  and is marrying Maria Cabral.
>
> You need to go back to Manuel's parent

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for any Fragoso descendants from Sao Miguel

[mances]

Dionísio Fragoso and Catarina de Revoredo married in Matriz da Lagoa on 20 
sep 1593 are my ancestors too.
I descend from their daughter Ana Fragoso who married Francisco Pereira in 
Matriz da Lagoa on 5 aug 1632.

Manoel Cesar Furtado

Em sexta-feira, 22 de janeiro de 2016 22:56:45 UTC-2, Mara escreveu:
>
> Lagoa:  Dionisio Fragoso and Catarina de Revoredo.
>  
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 6:32 PM,  
> wrote:
>
>> Margaret, who is your Fragoso ancestor?
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Margaret Vicente" 
>> *To: *"azores" 
>> *Sent: *Friday, January 22, 2016 1:01:51 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for any Fragoso descendants 
>> from Sao Miguel
>>
>> Well, there might be something to the story as I descend from the Fragoso 
>> line of Lagoa, however two generations down the line one son carried on 
>> with the Fragoso name while my ancestor took on the name Meireles.  His 
>> son, was first married in Rabo de Peixe.  Linda mentions Madalena carried 
>> the name Meireles which makes me wonder if there is indeed a connection.  
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:14 PM, JR  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Manuel de Andrade Fragoso married Maria Madalena do Rego 
>>> Meireles/Meibeles? native of Rabo de Peixe, May 7- 1922. 
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1890-1899/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1890-1899_item1/P144.html
>>>
>>> Rabo de Peixe casamentos- Nov 4- 1896, Jacintho d' Andrade com 
>>> Escholastica de Jesus, dispensados, 4th degree collateral, 17 Oct, (1696?) 
>>> elle idade de trinta sies annos , pescador, viuvo de Maria de Jesus, 
>>> fallecida n'esta dita fraguesia d'onde e natural e seu pai e moradore e foi 
>>> baptizado, filho de Francisco de Andrade e Maria Candida natural da 
>>> fraguesia de NS da Conceicao dita Villa, e ella a nubente d' idade de vinte 
>>> e nove annos domestica, solteira, natural e seus pais d'esta graguesia do 
>>> Senhor Bom Jesus onde e moradora e foi baptizada, filha de Jose Vieira e 
>>> Maria Izabel...Test- Jose d'Amaral lavrador, morador n'esta fraguesia e 
>>> Joao Pacheco camponez morador na fraguesia do Cabouco...
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:02:06 PM UTC-5, Linda McLellan wrote:

 Thanks Cherri,  I will try to go back and do some more research

 On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 11:13:20 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Linda McL,
>
> You need to watch out for "family stories."  Sometimes, that is what 
> they are - just stories. Usually told to amuse the kids (especially 
> before 
> radio and television). These kids grew up and became our parents or 
> grandparents and retold the stories that they heard as children. And 
> childhood memories can be funny things. No one wants to call grandma a 
> liar, but if she is telling a story that she heard as a child, it may be 
> just a story that was told to amuse her. Little kids are gullible and 
> believe most things they are told.
>
> Manuel's baptism had margin notes. Only 1 marriage was noted. I think 
> it said he married in the 1920s. Those records are not online. I've seen 
> margin notes where they noted the marriage, noted that the marriage was 
> dissolved by death of the spouse and they married a 2nd time. Could 
> someone 
> have forgot to note a marriage? Well, they are human and humans make 
> mistakes. But probably not. The only way to be sure would be to order 
> Manuel's marriage from the 1920s and see if it says he was the widower of 
>  and is marrying Maria Cabral.
>
> You need to go back to Manuel's parents' marriage - the marriage of 
> Jacinto d'Andrade and Escolastica de Jesus. It's in Rabo de Peixe in 
> 1896. 
> It's going to clarify some of your questions above and raise more.
>
> 28 is not too old to get married. Many married when they were older in 
> the Azores.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel?

[mances]

Júlio,

Miguel da Rocha and Bárbara Roiz are my ancestors too.
I descend from their daughter Maria de Faria who married Matias Pereira in 
São Pedro, Ribeira Grande, on 3 jul 1666. Matias was from Rabo de Peixe.

I have a lot of ancestors in Ribeira Grande living in the late 1500s and 
early 1600s.

Manoel Cesar Furtado

Em segunda-feira, 18 de janeiro de 2016 18:51:36 UTC-2, Júlio escreveu:
>
> This couple are my ancestors. his daughter Barbara Rodrigues married on 29 
> Feb 1640 in Ribeira Seca, with Miguel da Rocha born on 1 Oct 1618 in 
> Ribeira Seca, Son of Manuel da Rocha and Ana Ponte (these married 3 Dec 
> 1613). This couple had another daughter named Ana Luis married to 8 Apr 
> 1630 at Ribeira Seca with António de Sousa son Domingos Afonso and Isabel 
> Rodrigues de Sousa.
>
> segunda-feira, 18 de Janeiro de 2016 às 13:19:01 UTC-1, Sandra Perez 
> escreveu:
>>
>> Thank you everyone.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> It's Faial da Terra, even though the priest didn't write it out. You're 
>>> in 1603, and paper and ink weren't exactly in abundance. And as someone 
>>> said earlier, they would state "ilha da Faial" for "island of Faial" if 
>>> someone came from there.
>>> Cheri
>>> On Jan 17, 2016 8:35 PM, "Ângela Loura"  wrote:
>>>
 I would say the island of Faial, becausa i don't know anyone that 
 reffers to Faial da Terra only by 'Faial'.

 2016-01-18 2:34 GMT+00:00 Richard Francis Pimentel <
 rfrancis...@comcast.net>:

> *I would say Faial da Terra on Sao Miguel, it does not say Ilha with 
> Faial*
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
>  
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Sandra Perez
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:46 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy Google Group
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao 
> Miguel?
>
>  
>
> Manoel Faria and Maria Luis married 7 Jan 1603 in R. Seca, R. Grande.  
> It says Manoel was nal.  ? ? Faial.  Is this Sao Miguel or the Isalnd.  
> Top 
> left.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666_item1/P27.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need confirmation of birth.

[mances]

Sandra,

Domingos Jorge and Marta Roiz are my ancestors too.

Here's what I have about their children:

Filhos batizados na Matriz da Ribeira Grande:
. João, b. 1.7.1554 - CCA #121. Pd: Diogo Fernandes, Bartolomeu Lopes, 
Concórdia Fernandes e a parteira Margarida Fernandes.
. Antonio, b. 16.4.1556 - CCA #136. Pd: João Dias, Catarina Jorge e a 
parteira Maria Gonçalves.
. Maria, b. 29.8.1560 - CCA #159. Pd: Fernão? Martins, João de Braga, Maria 
Dias e Margarida Fernandes.
. Domingos, b. 22.2.1567 - CCA #51. Pd: Antonio Cansado e Margarida 
Fernandes.
. Francisca, b. 12.10.1569 - CCA #93. Pd: Miguel Tavares e Margarida 
Fernandes.
. Gaspar - ofício do catecismo em 11.7.1574 - CCA #180. Padrinhos do 
catecismo: Pedro Francisco e Catarina Lopes, viúva.
. Francisco, b. 10.1574 - CCA #184. Pd: Pedro Fernandes e a parteira 
Margarida Fernandes.
. Amador, b. 12.4.1577 - CCA #231. Pd: Frutuoso Dias e Branca Afonso.

Manoel Cesar Furtado

Em quinta-feira, 14 de janeiro de 2016 13:24:54 UTC-2, Sandra Perez 
escreveu:
>
> Thank you Rosemarie.
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  > wrote:
>
>> It might be, Sandra. The first letter is the one I'm having trouble with 
>> and I tried looking at other docs on the page and previous but this priest 
>> really writes crazy, sometime he capitalizes and sometimes he doesn't. I 
>> guess it could be an "R" with the bottom part of the capital faded away? I 
>> really originally took it to be an "F" but I think you have the right 
>> couple. Just try to find more kids and hopefully a different priest!! LOL
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie 
>> rcap...@gmail.com 
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Sandra Perez > > wrote:
>>
>>> Rosemarie, thank you.  Now I have Domingos Jorge and Marta confirmed by 
>>> other eyes.  What I see for Marta's surname is: A capital letter ? oy (i) ?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci >> > wrote:
>>>
 Sandra, I looks like it could be Domingos Jorge and a Marta but boy, I 
 can't see the last name of Marta at all. It looks like it could be a 
 capital "F" but I tried looking for this priest's capital letters and I 
 can't figure them out!! 

 Rosemarie 
 rcap...@gmail.com 
 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Sandra Perez  wrote:

> Thank you Nancy. That helped because I was not sure about the last 
> name Jorge.
>
> Sandra P.
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 2:36 PM, nancy jean baptiste <
> fishso...@hotmail.com > wrote:
>
>> Hard to read but it is for a Manuel and the fathers last name appears 
>> to be Jorge but you'll need more and better eyes for this one!
>>
>>
>> Nancy Jean
>>
>>
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>> azo...@googlegroups.com > on behalf of Sandra Perez <
>> perezsa...@gmail.com >
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 13, 2016 2:10 PM
>> *To:* Azores Genealogy Google Group
>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Need confirmation of birth. 
>>  
>> I am looking for Manoel Rodrigues' birth. He was the son of Domingos 
>> Jorge and Marta Rois.
>> I t says Mel born 8 Feb 1562. Is this the right birth? Second on 
>> right.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1541-1563/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1541-1563_item1/P173.html
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MANUEL TAVARES DE MELO

[mances]

Eliseu,

Do you have a date and a place for your Manuel Vaz Norte m. to Maria 
Monteiro?

Manoel

Em domingo, 13 de dezembro de 2015 17:18:13 UTC-2, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva 
escreveu:
>
> Thanks J
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *Em nome de *mances
> *Enviada:* 13 de dezembro de 2015 15:52
> *Para:* Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com >
> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MANUEL TAVARES DE MELO
>
>  
>
> Hi Eliseu,
>
>  
>
> I descend twice from them. Through their son Rafael Moreira who married in 
> Rabo de Peixe on 26 dec 1666 to Maria Pacheco, and through their daughter 
> Maria Moreira who married in Rabo de Peixe on 30 jun 1654 to Manuel de 
> Sousa Cardoso.
>
>  
>
> Manuel Vaz Norte died in Rabo de Peixe on 24 oct 1670, and his wife Maria 
> Moreira also died in Rabo de Peixe on 27 feb 1675.
>
>  
>
> Manoel
>
> Em domingo, 13 de dezembro de 2015 13:14:21 UTC-2, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva 
> escreveu:
>
> Hi!
>
> I have a Manuel Vaz Norte married to a Maria Monteiro… could they be the 
> same couple you have?
>
>  
>
> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *Em nome 
> de *mances
> *Enviada:* 13 de dezembro de 2015 12:00
> *Para:* Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com>
> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MANUEL TAVARES DE MELO
>
>  
>
> Hi Margaret,
>
>  
>
> I descend from Manuel Vaz Norte and his wife Maria Moreira, from Fernais 
> da Ajuda. They married around 1630.
>
> Is your Manuel Moniz Moreira Norte a descendant from this couple?
>
>  
>
> Manoel
>
> Em sábado, 12 de dezembro de 2015 23:07:30 UTC-2, Mara escreveu:
>
> Hi John,
>
>  
>
> Thank you for posting Manuel Tavares information.  This is also my direct 
> line through Manuel Tavares married to Maria de Bettencourt in Fenais da 
> Ajuda Oct 12 1702, through their daughter Maria Bettencourt married to 
> Manuel Moniz Moreira Norte June 7 1731 in Fenais da Ajuda.
>
>  
>
> Below is the link for Maria Bettencourt and Manuel Tavares marriage record.
>
>  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1683-1706/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1683-1706_item1/P51.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MANUEL TAVARES DE MELO

[mances]

Thank you, Eliseu.

Em segunda-feira, 14 de dezembro de 2015 15:35:03 UTC-2, Eliseu Pacheco da 
Silva escreveu:
>
> Sorry… a only have this note… I too kit from some place I have not taken 
> any note of it… L
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *Em nome de *mances
> *Enviada:* 14 de dezembro de 2015 11:27
> *Para:* Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com >
> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MANUEL TAVARES DE MELO
>
>  
>
> Eliseu,
>
>  
>
> Do you have a date and a place for your Manuel Vaz Norte m. to Maria 
> Monteiro?
>
>  
>
> Manoel
>
> Em domingo, 13 de dezembro de 2015 17:18:13 UTC-2, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva 
> escreveu:
>
> Thanks J
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *Em nome 
> de *mances
> *Enviada:* 13 de dezembro de 2015 15:52
> *Para:* Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com>
> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MANUEL TAVARES DE MELO
>
>  
>
> Hi Eliseu,
>
>  
>
> I descend twice from them. Through their son Rafael Moreira who married in 
> Rabo de Peixe on 26 dec 1666 to Maria Pacheco, and through their daughter 
> Maria Moreira who married in Rabo de Peixe on 30 jun 1654 to Manuel de 
> Sousa Cardoso.
>
>  
>
> Manuel Vaz Norte died in Rabo de Peixe on 24 oct 1670, and his wife Maria 
> Moreira also died in Rabo de Peixe on 27 feb 1675.
>
>  
>
> Manoel
>
> Em domingo, 13 de dezembro de 2015 13:14:21 UTC-2, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva 
> escreveu:
>
> Hi!
>
> I have a Manuel Vaz Norte married to a Maria Monteiro… could they be the 
> same couple you have?
>
>  
>
> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *Em nome 
> de *mances
> *Enviada:* 13 de dezembro de 2015 12:00
> *Para:* Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com>
> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MANUEL TAVARES DE MELO
>
>  
>
> Hi Margaret,
>
>  
>
> I descend from Manuel Vaz Norte and his wife Maria Moreira, from Fernais 
> da Ajuda. They married around 1630.
>
> Is your Manuel Moniz Moreira Norte a descendant from this couple?
>
>  
>
> Manoel
>
> Em sábado, 12 de dezembro de 2015 23:07:30 UTC-2, Mara escreveu:
>
> Hi John,
>
>  
>
> Thank you for posting Manuel Tavares information.  This is also my direct 
> line through Manuel Tavares married to Maria de Bettencourt in Fenais da 
> Ajuda Oct 12 1702, through their daughter Maria Bettencourt married to 
> Manuel Moniz Moreira Norte June 7 1731 in Fenais da Ajuda.
>
>  
>
> Below is the link for Maria Bettencourt and Manuel Tavares marriage record.
>
>  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1683-1706/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1683-1706_item1/P51.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MANUEL TAVARES DE MELO

[mances]

Thank you, Margaret,



Em domingo, 13 de dezembro de 2015 13:40:54 UTC-2, Mara escreveu:
>
> Hi Manuel,
>
> No.  Manuel Moreira Moniz or Norte's parents were Joao Moniz Freire or 
> Dutra or Norte and his wife Isabel Moreira. He descends from Domingos Vaz 
> Leitao and Maria Dutra.
>
> Margaret,
>
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 7:59 AM, mances <man...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Margaret,
>>
>> I descend from Manuel Vaz Norte and his wife Maria Moreira, from Fernais 
>> da Ajuda. They married around 1630.
>> Is your Manuel Moniz Moreira Norte a descendant from this couple?
>>
>> Manoel
>>
>> Em sábado, 12 de dezembro de 2015 23:07:30 UTC-2, Mara escreveu:
>>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> Thank you for posting Manuel Tavares information.  This is also my 
>>> direct line through Manuel Tavares married to Maria de Bettencourt in 
>>> Fenais da Ajuda Oct 12 1702, through their daughter Maria Bettencourt 
>>> married to Manuel Moniz Moreira Norte June 7 1731 in Fenais da Ajuda.
>>>
>>> Below is the link for Maria Bettencourt and Manuel Tavares marriage 
>>> record.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1683-1706/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1683-1706_item1/P51.html
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>>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 6:17 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
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>>>
>>>> Thank you and to you as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, December 12, 2015 5:00 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva <
>>>> eliseu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you John!
>>>>  
>>>> Merry Christmas and
>>>>  
>>>> Muito Obrigado,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MANUEL TAVARES DE MELO

[mances]

Hi Margaret,

I descend from Manuel Vaz Norte and his wife Maria Moreira, from Fernais da 
Ajuda. They married around 1630.
Is your Manuel Moniz Moreira Norte a descendant from this couple?

Manoel

Em sábado, 12 de dezembro de 2015 23:07:30 UTC-2, Mara escreveu:
>
> Hi John,
>
> Thank you for posting Manuel Tavares information.  This is also my direct 
> line through Manuel Tavares married to Maria de Bettencourt in Fenais da 
> Ajuda Oct 12 1702, through their daughter Maria Bettencourt married to 
> Manuel Moniz Moreira Norte June 7 1731 in Fenais da Ajuda.
>
> Below is the link for Maria Bettencourt and Manuel Tavares marriage record.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1683-1706/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1683-1706_item1/P51.html
>
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>
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 6:17 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Thank you and to you as well.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, December 12, 2015 5:00 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva <
>> eliseu...@gmail.com > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thank you John!
>>  
>> Merry Christmas and
>>  
>> Muito Obrigado,
>> *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva*
>> *Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo)*
>> (http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel?lang=en)
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
>> azo...@googlegroups.com ] 
>> *Enviada:* 12 de dezembro de 2015 18:26
>> *Para:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
>> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MANUEL TAVARES DE MELO
>>  
>> *Ahnentafel Chart for Manuel Tavares Melo (Carlos Machado: 517) *
>>  
>> *First Generation*
>>  
>>   1.* Manuel Tavares Melo CM 517 * was born in 1788. 
>> CM 517 #15
>>  
>> He had 4 wives; he is on page 112 of R. Rodrigues all the children 
>> arelisted but it says they do not know
>> which of the wives are their mothers
>> Manuel Josefa Rosa do Rego, Ana Jacinta Medeiros, Rosa Jacinta da Costa 
>> Maiato, Maria Rosa Candida.
>>  
>> *Second Generation*
>>  
>>   2.* Francisco Moniz Tavares * was born in 1741. He married Maria Melo 
>> on 19 Nov 1764 in Fenais Da Ajuda, S. Miguel Azores. 
>>  
>> CM 517 #11  & R. Rodrigues 111
>>   3.* Maria Melo * was born in 1740. 
>> CM 518 #3
>> *Third Generation*
>>  
>>   4.* Manuel Tavares Bettencourt * was born in 1710. He married Josefa 
>> Moniz Vieira on 15 Aug 1736 in Fenais Da Ajuda, S. Miguel Azores. 
>>  
>> Cm 517 #7
>>   5.* Josefa Moniz Vieira * was born in 1710. 
>>  
>>   6.* Miguel Moniz Vieira * was born in 1695. He married Barbara Melo-3 
>> on 9 Mar 1735/1736 in Fenais Da Ajuda, S. Miguel Azores. 
>>  
>> CM 518 #2
>>   7.* Barbara Melo-3 * was born in 1720. 
>>  
>> *Fourth Generation*
>>  
>>   8.* Manuel Tavares * was born on 21 Jul 1671 in Fenais Da Ajuda. He 
>> married Maria Bettencourt on 10 Dec 1702 in Fenais Da Ajuda, S. Miguel 
>> Azores. 
>>  
>> CM 517 #3
>>   9.* Maria Bettencourt * was born in 1680. 
>>  
>> 12.* Jose Moniz * was born in 1665. He married Maria Arruda. 
>> 13.* Maria Arruda * was born in 1665. 
>>  
>> 14.* Manuel Medeiros * was born in 1695. He married Natalia Pacheco. 
>> 15.* Natalia Pacheco * was born in 1695. 
>>  
>> *Fifth Generation*
>>  
>> 16.* Carlos Tavares Roe ou Roia * was born in 1635. He married Margarida 
>> Pacheco Medeiros in Sep 1667 in Fenais Da Ajuda, S. Miguel Azores. 
>>  
>> CM 517 #1
>> 17.* Margarida Pacheco Medeiros * was born in 1649. 
>> R. Rodrigues pg 110
>>  
>> *Sixth Generation*
>>  
>> 32.* Manuel Resendes * was born in 1619 in Povacao, S. Miguel. 
>> CM 517 very bottom of page
>>  
>> 34.* Manuel Costa Carvalho * was born in 1607. He married Maria Pacheco 
>> in 1627 in Fenais Da Ajuda, S. Miguel Azores. 
>> 35.* Maria Pacheco * was born in 1607. 
>>  
>> R. Rodrigues pg 108
>> *Seventh Generation*
>>  
>> 68.* Francisco Costa * was born in 1590. He married Ana Cabeceiras. 
>> 69.* Ana Cabeceiras * was born in 1590. 
>>  
>>  
>> On Saturday, December 12, 2015 12:47 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva <
>> eliseuman...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  
>> Yes!
>> Manuel Tavares de Melo married to Josefa Rosa do Rego, to Ana Jacinta de 
>> Medeiros, to Rosa Jacinta or Rosa Costa Maiato, to Maria Cândida Rosa 
>> Unção, to  unknown… J
>>  
>> *De:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *Em nome 
>> de *Richard Francis Pimentel
>> *Enviada:* 12 de dezembro de 2015 16:41
>> *Para:* azores@googlegroups.com
>> *Assunto:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MANUEL TAVARES DE MELO
>>  
>> *I do not have that exact name but have several Manuel de Mello. Can you 
>> give any more information on him that may help me 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MANUEL TAVARES DE MELO

[mances]

Hi Eliseu,

I descend twice from them. Through their son Rafael Moreira who married in 
Rabo de Peixe on 26 dec 1666 to Maria Pacheco, and through their daughter 
Maria Moreira who married in Rabo de Peixe on 30 jun 1654 to Manuel de 
Sousa Cardoso.

Manuel Vaz Norte died in Rabo de Peixe on 24 oct 1670, and his wife Maria 
Moreira also died in Rabo de Peixe on 27 feb 1675.

Manoel

Em domingo, 13 de dezembro de 2015 13:14:21 UTC-2, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva 
escreveu:
>
> Hi!
>
> I have a Manuel Vaz Norte married to a Maria Monteiro… could they be the 
> same couple you have?
>
>  
>
> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *Em nome de *mances
> *Enviada:* 13 de dezembro de 2015 12:00
> *Para:* Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com >
> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MANUEL TAVARES DE MELO
>
>  
>
> Hi Margaret,
>
>  
>
> I descend from Manuel Vaz Norte and his wife Maria Moreira, from Fernais 
> da Ajuda. They married around 1630.
>
> Is your Manuel Moniz Moreira Norte a descendant from this couple?
>
>  
>
> Manoel
>
> Em sábado, 12 de dezembro de 2015 23:07:30 UTC-2, Mara escreveu:
>
> Hi John,
>
>  
>
> Thank you for posting Manuel Tavares information.  This is also my direct 
> line through Manuel Tavares married to Maria de Bettencourt in Fenais da 
> Ajuda Oct 12 1702, through their daughter Maria Bettencourt married to 
> Manuel Moniz Moreira Norte June 7 1731 in Fenais da Ajuda.
>
>  
>
> Below is the link for Maria Bettencourt and Manuel Tavares marriage record.
>
>  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1683-1706/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1683-1706_item1/P51.html
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: There is a new Gedmatch.com calculator MDLP K12 Utimate

[mances]

My ancestry is 75% from Azores (island of São Miguel, with a few lines from 
Santa Maria, Terceira, Pico, Faial and Flores), and 25% from mainland 
Portugal (Beira Alta - Douro).

Manoel César Furtado

*MDLP K13 Ultimate Oracle results:*

MDLP K13 'Ultimate' Oracle

Kit FN21991

*Admix Results (sorted):*

*#*

*Population*

*Percent*

1

ENF

48.29

2

WHG-UHG

18.63

3

Caucas-Gedrosia

12.86

4

ANE

9.29

5

NearEast

6.89

6

Subsaharian

3.16

7

EastAsian

0.68

8

Oceanian

0.2


*Single Population Sharing:*

*#*

*Population (source)*

*Distance*

1

Portugese

4.42

2

Spanish

4.76

3

Spain

5.05

4

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

5.32

5

Italian_Bergamo

5.6

6

Spanish_Extremadura_IBS

7.25

7

Spanish_Iberian

7.35

8

Spanish_IBS

7.35

9

Spanish_Galicia_IBS

7.97

10

Swiss

8.15

11

Spanish_Canarias_IBS

8.21

12

Occitan

8.44

13

Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS

8.61

14

Italy-Friul

9.05

15

Spanish_Cataluna_IBS

9.38

16

Spanish_Andalucia_IBS

9.54

17

France

9.55

18

Corsican

9.59

19

Italy_North

10.03

20

Italian_Piedmont

10.35


*Mixed Mode Population Sharing:*

*#*

 

*Primary Population (source)*

*Secondary Population (source)*

*Distance*

1

 

89.7%

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

+

10.3%

Egyptan

@

2.17

2

 

90.2%

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

+

9.8%

Egyptian_Metspalu

@

2.2

3

 

89.9%

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

+

10.1%

Egyptian_Comas

@

2.28

4

 

91.2%

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

+

8.8%

Yemenese

@

2.36

5

 

92.5%

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

+

7.5%

Tygray

@

2.49

6

 

92.8%

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

+

7.2%

Amhara

@

2.54

7

 

92.8%

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

+

7.2%

Afar

@

2.59

8

 

92.9%

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

+

7.1%

Ethiopian

@

2.6

9

 

93.1%

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

+

6.9%

Ethiopian_Jew

@

2.62

10

 

89.1%

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

+

10.9%

Libyan

@

2.62

11

 

90.7%

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

+

9.3%

BedouinA

@

2.74

12

 

93.4%

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

+

6.6%

Afar_WGA

@

2.76

13

 

88.6%

Spanish

+

11.4%

Ain_Touta_WGA

@

2.77

14

 

87%

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

+

13%

Ain_Touta_WGA

@

2.8

15

 

91.5%

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

+

8.5%

Qatari

@

2.8

16

 

91.4%

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

+

8.6%

Yemenite_Jew

@

2.8

17

 

91.2%

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

+

8.8%

Yemen

@

2.81

18

 

87.3%

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

+

12.7%

Shaigi_WGA

@

2.81

19

 

89%

Spanish

+

11%

Shaigi_WGA

@

2.83

20

 

88.5%

Spanish_Baleares_IBS

+

11.5%

Algerian

@

2.84

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Revoredo

[mances]

I have in my tree:

1. Catarina de Revoredo m. to Dionísio Fragoso in Santa Cruz, Lagoa, on 20 
sep 1593.

2. Domingos de Revoredo m. to Luzia Mendes; they are the parents of 
Francisco Mendes [de Revoredo] who married Maria Fernandes in Santa Cruz, 
Lagoa, on 9 nov 1624.

3. Manuel Pires de Revoredo m. to Maria Garcia; they are the parents of 
Francisco Pires de Revoredo who married Maria Tavares França in Rabo de 
Peixe, on 23 oct 1623.


The oldest Revoredo I have seen on the records is Ana de Revoredo who 
married Domingos Pires in Santa Cruz, Lagoa, on 22 apr 1557.


Manoel César Furtado





Em sexta-feira, 18 de setembro de 2015 00:58:07 UTC-3, Monica C escreveu:
>
> Hello, 
> Would anyone have a listing or family from Sao Miguel with the name 
> Revoredo? Do you know of where they populated the island? 
>
> Any information or direction would greatly be appreciated. 
>
> Thanks 
> Monica 
> SAO MIGUEL 
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NS de Assuncao, Santa Maria, name of groom's mom and bride father

[mances]

Maria de Almada.

Manoel

Em terça-feira, 8 de setembro de 2015 22:34:41 UTC-3, Maria escreveu:
>
> Thanks Tish:). 
>
> Maria Elena 
>
> On Sep 8, 2015, at 8:22 PM, Tish M  
> wrote:
>
> Groom: Joseph de Mello, son of Joseph de Mello and Maria (de or da) Almeda 
> both deceased
> Bride: Francisca de Andrade, child of Thome da Costa and Maria de Andrade.
> Freguesia of Santa Barbara, place of São Lourenço.  
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Maria Lima  > wrote:
>
>> Left hand page second marriage down
>>
>> The groom is Joseph de MELLO son of Joseph de MELLO and Maria de (?) 
>> Francisca abbreviated (?) or Amada (?) both deceased.
>>
>> The bride father- is that THOME? Da Costa and Maria Andrade.
>>
>> At the bottom it says someone was from Santa Barbara of Lourenco
>> .  Would that be the bride; I couldn't follow it.
>>
>> Thanks for helping me.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1717-1735/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1717-1735_item1/P78.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Maria Elena
>> In Wisconsin
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NS de Assuncao, Santa Maria, name of groom's mom and bride father

[mances]

The groom (... "e elle na Parochial de Santa Barbara" ...)

Manoel

Em quarta-feira, 9 de setembro de 2015 14:48:03 UTC-3, Maria escreveu:
>
> Sorry to ask for further help but can you tell me WHO is from that parish 
> mentioned at the end (Santa Barbara)- is it the bride? Or could it be the 
> parents of the bride or maybe the newly weds? 
>
> Maria Elena 
>
> On Sep 9, 2015, at 8:57 AM, mances <man...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> Maria de Almada.
>
> Manoel
>
> Em terça-feira, 8 de setembro de 2015 22:34:41 UTC-3, Maria escreveu:
>>
>> Thanks Tish:). 
>>
>> Maria Elena 
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2015, at 8:22 PM, Tish M <tish@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Groom: Joseph de Mello, son of Joseph de Mello and Maria (de or da) 
>> Almeda both deceased
>> Bride: Francisca de Andrade, child of Thome da Costa and Maria de Andrade.
>> Freguesia of Santa Barbara, place of São Lourenço.  
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Maria Lima <maria@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Left hand page second marriage down
>>>
>>> The groom is Joseph de MELLO son of Joseph de MELLO and Maria de (?) 
>>> Francisca abbreviated (?) or Amada (?) both deceased.
>>>
>>> The bride father- is that THOME? Da Costa and Maria Andrade.
>>>
>>> At the bottom it says someone was from Santa Barbara of Lourenco
>>> .  Would that be the bride; I couldn't follow it.
>>>
>>> Thanks for helping me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1717-1735/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1717-1735_item1/P78.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maria Elena
>>> In Wisconsin
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe

[mances]

Joanne,

PDF 

Manoel

Em sexta-feira, 21 de agosto de 2015 16:25:19 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu:

 Thanks for José family, Manoel. I will send you his descendents in either 
 a PDF or GEDCOM privately. Which would you prefer?

 Joanne




 On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:24 AM, mances man...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Joanne,

 I made a mistake. My ancestor Rosa Emília Carreiro is the sister of your 
 José, not the daughter.
 Sorry for my lapsus calami!

 Here are the children born to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, 
 that I could find in Rabo de Peixe:

 . Maria e Josefa, gêmeas, n. 13.7.1821 - CCA #81. Netas paternas de 
 Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e netas maternas de Luciano da Silva de 
 Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Manuel Gonçalves, casado, morador neste mesmo 
 lugar.
 . Manuel, n. 10.7.1822 - CCA #117. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e 
 Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: 
 Francisco Carreiro filho familar de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva de Jesus, 
 deste referido lugar.
 . José, n. 3.1.1824 - CCA #8.  Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana 
 Maria, e neto materno de Luciano da Silva de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: O 
 tio materno Luciano da Silva de Gouveia.
 . Maria (2ª do nome), n. 4.2.1827 - CCA #91. Neta paterna de Francisco 
 Martins e Ana Maria, e neta materna de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. 
 Pd: Luciano de Gouveia da Silva, morador neste lugar.
 . Francisco, n. 19.12.1827 - CCA #132. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins 
 e Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano Carreiro e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: O tio 
 materno Francisco Carreiro filho familiar de Luciano Carreiro e Genoveva de 
 Jesus.
 . Luciano, n. 2.9.1830 - CCA #237. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e 
 Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano Carreiro e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: 
 Francisco filho de Luciano Carreiro.
 . Rosa, n. 16.3.1833 - CCA #44. Neta paterna de Francisco Martins de 
 Gouveia e Ana Maria, e neta materna de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. 
 Pd: Norberto José Martins, filho familiar de Francisco Martins e de Ana 
 Maria, deste mesmo lugar. (Obs.: A data de seu falecimento está anotada à 
 margem do assento de batismo).


 Manoel

 Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 22:18:43 UTC-3, mances escreveu:

 Hello Cousin,

 I would like to know about José's descendant line and will be glad to 
 share everything I have in my files.

 My ancestor Rosa Emilia Carreiro, José's daughter, married Antonio 
 Jacinto de Faria, in Rabo de Peixe on 1849. Their daughter Maria Carreiro 
 married Manuel Tavares de Medeiros, in Rabo de Peixe on 1874, and they 
 emigrated to Brazil on 1891.

 As to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, I have researched all 
 their ancestors. This line goes back to several settlers of the island of 
 São Miguel, e.g.: Afonso Enes do Couto; João Lopes, dos Mosteiros; Diogo de 
 Oliveira de Vasconcelos; Rui Tavares; Francisco Anes, da Praia; Martim Anes 
 Furtado de Sousa; Afonso Anes da Costa Cogumbreiro; Pedro Velho de 
 Travassos; Jorge Velho.

 Manoel



 Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 16:24:15 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu:

 Hello cousin!
 I love meeting new relatives on this crazy genealogy journey. Thanks 
 for helping me fill in some blanks. I’d be happy to share José's 
 descendent 
 line with you if you’d like. Do you have more ancestors past Manoel and 
 Maria or more siblings for Rosa and José? I would love to add them to my 
 tree. I’ve also had my DNA done at FamilyTreeDNA and I think I may have 
 seen your name there. 

 Thanks again!
 Joanne Grota Mercier



 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:

 Joanne,

 Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz are also my ancestors. They 
 married in Rabo de Peixe on 11 feb 1820 - CCA #91.

 I descend from their daughter Rosa born on 16 march 1833 - CCA #44. 
 Your ancestor José was born in Rabo de Peixe on 3 jan 1824 - CCA #8.


 Manoel Cesar Furtado


 Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 00:40:02 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu:


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851_item1/P180.html


 I’m having a little trouble reading the dates of the birth and 
 baptism of my Great Granfather. I believe the birth is 14 January 1851 
 and 
 the baptism is 25 January 1851.  I’m also trying to understand which 
 family 
 is from Rosto de Cão and which is from Rabo de Peixe. Any translation 
 help 
 is greatly appreicated.


 Thanks!

 Joanne Grota Mercier

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Achada Casamentos

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Paul,

Isabel de Resendes Vieira is the daughter of Miguel Lopes Vieira and 
Bárbara Rebelo who married in Achada on 2 aug 1692.

Manoel

Em sexta-feira, 21 de agosto de 2015 18:26:33 UTC-3, Paul escreveu:

 Manoel,

 Does this book list who their parents are? 

 Paul G.



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe

[mances]

Joanne,

I made a mistake. My ancestor Rosa Emília Carreiro is the sister of your 
José, not the daughter.
Sorry for my lapsus calami!

Here are the children born to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, 
that I could find in Rabo de Peixe:

. Maria e Josefa, gêmeas, n. 13.7.1821 - CCA #81. Netas paternas de 
Francisco Martins e Ana Maria, e netas maternas de Luciano da Silva de 
Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Manuel Gonçalves, casado, morador neste mesmo 
lugar.
. Manuel, n. 10.7.1822 - CCA #117. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana 
Maria, e neto materno de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Francisco 
Carreiro filho familar de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva de Jesus, deste 
referido lugar.
. José, n. 3.1.1824 - CCA #8.  Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana 
Maria, e neto materno de Luciano da Silva de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: O 
tio materno Luciano da Silva de Gouveia.
. Maria (2ª do nome), n. 4.2.1827 - CCA #91. Neta paterna de Francisco 
Martins e Ana Maria, e neta materna de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. 
Pd: Luciano de Gouveia da Silva, morador neste lugar.
. Francisco, n. 19.12.1827 - CCA #132. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e 
Ana Maria, e neto materno de Luciano Carreiro e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: O tio 
materno Francisco Carreiro filho familiar de Luciano Carreiro e Genoveva de 
Jesus.
. Luciano, n. 2.9.1830 - CCA #237. Neto paterno de Francisco Martins e Ana 
Maria, e neto materno de Luciano Carreiro e Genoveva Rosa. Pd: Francisco 
filho de Luciano Carreiro.
. Rosa, n. 16.3.1833 - CCA #44. Neta paterna de Francisco Martins de 
Gouveia e Ana Maria, e neta materna de Luciano de Gouveia e Genoveva Rosa. 
Pd: Norberto José Martins, filho familiar de Francisco Martins e de Ana 
Maria, deste mesmo lugar. (Obs.: A data de seu falecimento está anotada à 
margem do assento de batismo).


Manoel

Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 22:18:43 UTC-3, mances escreveu:

 Hello Cousin,

 I would like to know about José's descendant line and will be glad to 
 share everything I have in my files.

 My ancestor Rosa Emilia Carreiro, José's daughter, married Antonio Jacinto 
 de Faria, in Rabo de Peixe on 1849. Their daughter Maria Carreiro married 
 Manuel Tavares de Medeiros, in Rabo de Peixe on 1874, and they emigrated to 
 Brazil on 1891.

 As to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, I have researched all 
 their ancestors. This line goes back to several settlers of the island of 
 São Miguel, e.g.: Afonso Enes do Couto; João Lopes, dos Mosteiros; Diogo de 
 Oliveira de Vasconcelos; Rui Tavares; Francisco Anes, da Praia; Martim Anes 
 Furtado de Sousa; Afonso Anes da Costa Cogumbreiro; Pedro Velho de 
 Travassos; Jorge Velho.

 Manoel



 Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 16:24:15 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu:

 Hello cousin!
 I love meeting new relatives on this crazy genealogy journey. Thanks for 
 helping me fill in some blanks. I’d be happy to share José's descendent 
 line with you if you’d like. Do you have more ancestors past Manoel and 
 Maria or more siblings for Rosa and José? I would love to add them to my 
 tree. I’ve also had my DNA done at FamilyTreeDNA and I think I may have 
 seen your name there. 

 Thanks again!
 Joanne Grota Mercier



 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:

 Joanne,

 Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz are also my ancestors. They 
 married in Rabo de Peixe on 11 feb 1820 - CCA #91.

 I descend from their daughter Rosa born on 16 march 1833 - CCA #44. Your 
 ancestor José was born in Rabo de Peixe on 3 jan 1824 - CCA #8.


 Manoel Cesar Furtado


 Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 00:40:02 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu:


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851_item1/P180.html


 I’m having a little trouble reading the dates of the birth and baptism 
 of my Great Granfather. I believe the birth is 14 January 1851 and the 
 baptism is 25 January 1851.  I’m also trying to understand which family is 
 from Rosto de Cão and which is from Rabo de Peixe. Any translation help is 
 greatly appreicated.


 Thanks!

 Joanne Grota Mercier

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe

[mances]

Hi Sean,

I have done a lot of research in Rabo de Peixe and I think that all those 
Martins de Gouveia are connected. As far as I know they all descend from 
Manuel Martins Mascarenhas, from Rabo de Peixe born around 1610, and Maria 
de Gouveia, from Matriz da Ribeira Grande born on 1 sep 1613.

Do you have the names of the parents for your Francisco Martins de Gouveia?

Manoel

Em sexta-feira, 21 de agosto de 2015 11:36:15 UTC-3, Sean Andrade escreveu:

 Hi,

 Not that this is helpful, but my family is from Rabo de Peixe and I have a 
 relative named Francisco Martins Gouveia. I dont know his dates of birth 
 but I a assume its in the mid 1800's. I'm just curious if he is related to 
 any or your ancestors from the same time period.

 On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 6:18:43 PM UTC-7, mances wrote:

 Hello Cousin,

 I would like to know about José's descendant line and will be glad to 
 share everything I have in my files.

 My ancestor Rosa Emilia Carreiro, José's daughter, married Antonio 
 Jacinto de Faria, in Rabo de Peixe on 1849. Their daughter Maria Carreiro 
 married Manuel Tavares de Medeiros, in Rabo de Peixe on 1874, and they 
 emigrated to Brazil on 1891.

 As to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, I have researched all 
 their ancestors. This line goes back to several settlers of the island of 
 São Miguel, e.g.: Afonso Enes do Couto; João Lopes, dos Mosteiros; Diogo de 
 Oliveira de Vasconcelos; Rui Tavares; Francisco Anes, da Praia; Martim Anes 
 Furtado de Sousa; Afonso Anes da Costa Cogumbreiro; Pedro Velho de 
 Travassos; Jorge Velho.

 Manoel



 Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 16:24:15 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu:

 Hello cousin!
 I love meeting new relatives on this crazy genealogy journey. Thanks for 
 helping me fill in some blanks. I’d be happy to share José's descendent 
 line with you if you’d like. Do you have more ancestors past Manoel and 
 Maria or more siblings for Rosa and José? I would love to add them to my 
 tree. I’ve also had my DNA done at FamilyTreeDNA and I think I may have 
 seen your name there. 

 Thanks again!
 Joanne Grota Mercier



 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:

 Joanne,

 Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz are also my ancestors. They 
 married in Rabo de Peixe on 11 feb 1820 - CCA #91.

 I descend from their daughter Rosa born on 16 march 1833 - CCA #44. 
 Your ancestor José was born in Rabo de Peixe on 3 jan 1824 - CCA #8.


 Manoel Cesar Furtado


 Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 00:40:02 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu:


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851_item1/P180.html


 I’m having a little trouble reading the dates of the birth and baptism 
 of my Great Granfather. I believe the birth is 14 January 1851 and the 
 baptism is 25 January 1851.  I’m also trying to understand which family 
 is 
 from Rosto de Cão and which is from Rabo de Peixe. Any translation help 
 is 
 greatly appreicated.


 Thanks!

 Joanne Grota Mercier

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Achada Casamentos

[mances]

These people are in RR's book (Genealogias de São Miguel e Santa Maria).
Isabel de Resendes Vieira married Antonio de Medeiros Sousa or Medeiros 
Melo in Achada on 4 jun 1729.

Manoel

Em sexta-feira, 21 de agosto de 2015 15:49:57 UTC-3, Paul escreveu:

 *Thanks for trying. I have looked through the Maia casamentos between 1700 
 - 1730 and the Achada casamentos 1700-1728 three times each looking for the 
 marriage of Antonio  Izabel with out any luck. Currently looking through 
 Achadinha. If they are not there I'll either asking the group if anyone has 
 them in their tree or say they were married sometime between 1728-1733 that 
 are missing for Achada.*


 *Paul G.*
 On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 1:59:01 PM UTC-4, Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:

 *The closest I have in my notes is a marriage on 4 Jun 1729 of Antonio 
 Medeiros de Sousa and ? de Resendes Vieira. *

  

 *Rick*

  

 *Richard Francis Pimentel*

 *Epping, NH*

  

  

 *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On 
 Behalf Of *Paul
 *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2015 12:20 PM
 *To:* Azores Genealogy
 *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Achada Casamentos

  

 Rick,

  

 I can not say yes or no at this time. I found her casamentos to my 6th 
 great grandfather Bento Pacheco Rapozo on 11 Jan 1731 in Maia. Here's the 
 link for the marriage: 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1705-1742/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1705-1742_item1/P175.html
  
 left page. It lists Izabel as a widow of Antonio Medeiros de Mello who died 
 on 16 Nov 1730 in Maia. The baptism records for Bento's  Izabel's children 
 list her being from Achada Grande. So I have been looking at the casamentos 
 from November 1730 going backwards trying to find her marriage to Antonio 
 and stopping at any record with an Izabel de Resendes. All this in the hope 
 of finding her baptism record.

  

 Paul G.

  


 On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 11:32:25 AM UTC-4, Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:

 *Is it the marriage with Sebastiao Machado? If so it is this record: *
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728_item1/P30.html
  

  

 *The marriage is on 28 September 1699. The groom is Sebastiao Machado son 
 of Sebastiao Machado and Catherina do Espirito Santo, the bride is Isabel 
 de Resendes daughter of Manuel Soares de Resendes and Anna Marques*

 *Isabel Resendes is my  6th great grandmother.*

  

 *Rick*

  

 *Richard Francis Pimentel*

 *Epping, NH*

  

  

 *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On 
 Behalf Of *Paul
 *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2015 11:17 AM
 *To:* Azores Genealogy
 *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Achada Casamentos

  

 I am hoping that the attached is Izabel de Resendes first marriage 
 record. The record starts at the bottom the page and continues at the top 
 of the following page. Can someone please tell me her mother's surname 
 Maria  and what village they are from. If listed, where Izabel was 
 baptized.

  


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728_item1/P76.html

  

 Thanks,

 Paul G.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe

[mances]

Hello Cousin,

I would like to know about José's descendant line and will be glad to share 
everything I have in my files.

My ancestor Rosa Emilia Carreiro, José's daughter, married Antonio Jacinto 
de Faria, in Rabo de Peixe on 1849. Their daughter Maria Carreiro married 
Manuel Tavares de Medeiros, in Rabo de Peixe on 1874, and they emigrated to 
Brazil on 1891.

As to Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz, I have researched all 
their ancestors. This line goes back to several settlers of the island of 
São Miguel, e.g.: Afonso Enes do Couto; João Lopes, dos Mosteiros; Diogo de 
Oliveira de Vasconcelos; Rui Tavares; Francisco Anes, da Praia; Martim Anes 
Furtado de Sousa; Afonso Anes da Costa Cogumbreiro; Pedro Velho de 
Travassos; Jorge Velho.

Manoel



Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 16:24:15 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu:

 Hello cousin!
 I love meeting new relatives on this crazy genealogy journey. Thanks for 
 helping me fill in some blanks. I’d be happy to share José's descendent 
 line with you if you’d like. Do you have more ancestors past Manoel and 
 Maria or more siblings for Rosa and José? I would love to add them to my 
 tree. I’ve also had my DNA done at FamilyTreeDNA and I think I may have 
 seen your name there. 

 Thanks again!
 Joanne Grota Mercier



 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 1:48 PM, mances man...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Joanne,

 Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz are also my ancestors. They 
 married in Rabo de Peixe on 11 feb 1820 - CCA #91.

 I descend from their daughter Rosa born on 16 march 1833 - CCA #44. Your 
 ancestor José was born in Rabo de Peixe on 3 jan 1824 - CCA #8.


 Manoel Cesar Furtado


 Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 00:40:02 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu:


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851_item1/P180.html


 I’m having a little trouble reading the dates of the birth and baptism 
 of my Great Granfather. I believe the birth is 14 January 1851 and the 
 baptism is 25 January 1851.  I’m also trying to understand which family is 
 from Rosto de Cão and which is from Rabo de Peixe. Any translation help is 
 greatly appreicated.


 Thanks!

 Joanne Grota Mercier

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe

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Joanne,

Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz are also my ancestors. They 
married in Rabo de Peixe on 11 feb 1820 - CCA #91.

I descend from their daughter Rosa born on 16 march 1833 - CCA #44. Your 
ancestor José was born in Rabo de Peixe on 3 jan 1824 - CCA #8.


Manoel Cesar Furtado


Em quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2015 00:40:02 UTC-3, Joanne escreveu:


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851_item1/P180.html


 I’m having a little trouble reading the dates of the birth and baptism of 
 my Great Granfather. I believe the birth is 14 January 1851 and the baptism 
 is 25 January 1851.  I’m also trying to understand which family is from 
 Rosto de Cão and which is from Rabo de Peixe. Any translation help is 
 greatly appreicated.


 Thanks!

 Joanne Grota Mercier


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation on damaged record

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Paulo [Pallos] Fernandes and Maria Tavares.

Manoel

Em domingo, 16 de agosto de 2015 21:44:51 UTC-3, Cheri Mello escreveu:

 Dad's first name almost looks like Carlos, but I don't think that's it.

 I can see 11 of May. Godfather Capt. Manuel de _??

 Hope this is in Rodrigues or Frutoso.

 Cheri

 Cheri Mello
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 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Ângela Loura angel...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Josepha, daughter of (???) Fernandes and his wife Maria Tavares (?) (...) 
 born... 

 Jesus... what a cy record... A lot of Santa Maria's records look like 
 this or even worse... Such a disappointment :(

 2015-08-17 0:52 GMT+01:00 brownat68 brow...@gmail.com javascript::

 Hello

 Can anyone translate the first record on the top right side? It is 
 heavily damaged.


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1670-1707/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1670-1707_item1/P49.html

 This is a distant cousin on mine. My family must have either came from 
 Portugal to both Sao Miguel and Santa Maria or they branched off Sao Miguel 
 to Santa Maria.

 Todd

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