Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2015-07-15 Thread shawn . jacobson
Perfect, thanks!

On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 8:06:09 PM UTC-5, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 5:30 PM,  shawn.j...@lynxspring.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
  How do I disable the dump of the IP addresses?  If the IP has changed, 
 it is 
  wrong the majority of the time and it also appears that on occasion, the 
  file is getting corrupted. 

 /etc/issue 


 https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts/blob/master/boot/am335x_evm.sh#L151
  

 local: 
 /opt/scripts/boot/am335x_evm.sh 

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2015-07-15 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 5:30 PM,  shawn.jacob...@lynxspring.com wrote:
 How do I disable the dump of the IP addresses?  If the IP has changed, it is
 wrong the majority of the time and it also appears that on occasion, the
 file is getting corrupted.

/etc/issue

https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts/blob/master/boot/am335x_evm.sh#L151

local:
/opt/scripts/boot/am335x_evm.sh

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2015-07-15 Thread shawn . jacobson
How do I disable the dump of the IP addresses?  If the IP has changed, it 
is wrong the majority of the time and it also appears that on occasion, the 
file is getting corrupted.

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 at 4:32:38 PM UTC-5, RobertCNelson wrote:

  So then, here's a question for you. Where do you want to see those 
  type of faq's listed? 
  
  I can pretty much dump them anywhere, but the hard question is where... 
  
  
  motd or the banner for ssh, together with an instruction to use rm to 
 get 
  rid of the message. 

 I've been dumping the default username/password + the current ip 
 address if we get it in time to /etc/issue so it shows up on both 
 the dvi and serial terminal. We could dump an elinux link faq there 
 too.  Good call on the ssh message, didn't think of that. 

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[beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-12-18 Thread mbbackus
I recently tried running some OpenCV code that works fine independently but 
crashes with a select timeout error when I try running it while I have my 
mini wifi module from Adafruit plugged in to provide wireless access via an 
AP network. Both the camera and the wifi module are plugged into a usb hub. 
I've done some research online and it sounds like the Bone's USB DMA 
support might not be up to the task. I've read about using other kernels 
and was wondering what was built into this image.

I also read another post about including 
NEON: 
http://blog.lemoneerlabs.com/3rdParty/Darling_BBB_30fps_DRAFT.html#x1-6000doc

Is that optimization already built into this image?

Anyone have any other ideas for getting the Beaglebone to handle both a 
cheap USB camera and WiFi module, or is this something that would be better 
handled by the Raspberry Pi B+? I like controlling motors directly from the 
bone with the handful of PWM pins it sports, but wireless debugging is a 
little higher on my priority list so I can move to a Pi and an Arduino if 
necessary.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-08-06 Thread mbbackus
I purchased a proto cape from sparkfun with an eeprom. Apparently I can 
write a dts file and compile it so that I have better control of the 
headers at boot time. I'm trying to control some dc motors and was only 
able to find 4 gpios and 4 more pwms that are low and stay low when the 
beaglebone boots. I can use those for now, but I imagine that in the future 
this will probably change and I'd like to know how to deal with it. I'd 
also like to be able to choose my pin layout so that it's a little more 
intuitive for my students.

So my questions are:

   1. Can I access and program the eeprom on the proto cape from the 
   beaglebone black? If so, how?
   2. How do I make the dts file?
   3. How do I compile it?
   4. Where do I put it?
   5. How do I make debian use it when it boots?

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-07-25 Thread John Syn

From:  mbbac...@gmail.com
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Date:  Thursday, July 24, 2014 at 8:02 AM
To:  beagleboard@googlegroups.com beagleboard@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image
you want to test

 I was using the March 31st image (I think) up until yesterday when I updated
 to the most recent image. One thing I liked about the march image is that it
 automatically booted to the sd card (no need to press the boot button). How
 can I implement this functionality with the newer image?
You need to update u-boot on your eMMC boot partition.

Regards,
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-07-24 Thread mbbackus
I was using the March 31st image (I think) up until yesterday when I 
updated to the most recent image. One thing I liked about the march image 
is that it automatically booted to the sd card (no need to press the boot 
button). How can I implement this functionality with the newer image?

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-07-24 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:02 AM,  mbbac...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was using the March 31st image (I think) up until yesterday when I updated
 to the most recent image. One thing I liked about the march image is that it
 automatically booted to the sd card (no need to press the boot button). How
 can I implement this functionality with the newer image?

Rename bbb-uEnv.txt in the boot partition

mkdir disk
sudo mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 ./disk
sudo mv ./disk/bbb-uEnv.txt ./disk/uEnv.txt
sync
sudo umount ./disk
sudo reboot

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-07-24 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:02 AM,  mbbac...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was using the March 31st image (I think) up until yesterday when I updated
 to the most recent image. One thing I liked about the march image is that it
 automatically booted to the sd card (no need to press the boot button). How
 can I implement this functionality with the newer image?

 Rename bbb-uEnv.txt in the boot partition

 mkdir disk
 sudo mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 ./disk
 sudo mv ./disk/bbb-uEnv.txt ./disk/uEnv.txt
 sync
 sudo umount ./disk
 sudo reboot

Note, by doing this, it'll only support the mainline dtb location:

http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:U-boot_partitioning_layout_2.0#Rootfs_Partition

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-29 Thread michael . duffy
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:37:13 PM UTC-7, RobertCNelson wrote:

 It's there just an older version of systemd where it was prefixed. systemd-

Follow-on question: any risk in moving to the latest version of systemd? 
 The version on the flasher is 44, the version on freedesktop.org is 213 
and two years newer... 

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-29 Thread David Farning
This is a quirk of Debian.

Systemd represents a pretty fundamental shift to Linux distributions.
Conservative distributions like Debian have taken a wait and see
approach before adopting it. As a result the version of systemd in
Debian stable, Sid, is pretty old.

One option would be look at using the current development version of
Debian, Jessie, which will become the next stable release later this
year or early next year.

As with everything it is and engineering trade off; old and stable vs.
new and awesome :)


David

On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 1:00 AM,  michael.du...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:37:13 PM UTC-7, RobertCNelson wrote:

 It's there just an older version of systemd where it was prefixed.
 systemd-

 Follow-on question: any risk in moving to the latest version of systemd?
 The version on the flasher is 44, the version on freedesktop.org is 213 and
 two years newer...

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-29 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 1:00 AM,  michael.du...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:37:13 PM UTC-7, RobertCNelson wrote:

 It's there just an older version of systemd where it was prefixed.
 systemd-

 Follow-on question: any risk in moving to the latest version of systemd?
 The version on the flasher is 44, the version on freedesktop.org is 213 and
 two years newer...

This is just the way Debian works. stable aka Wheezy is frozen, so
only bug fixes are allowed.  As we start getting closer to Debian
Jessie's freeze date, I'll start pushing out offical testing images.

But there's nothing stopping you from running:

sudo sed -i 's/wheezy/jessie/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

Then you'll get systemd 204

http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/systemd.html

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-29 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 1:00 AM,  michael.du...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:37:13 PM UTC-7, RobertCNelson wrote:

 It's there just an older version of systemd where it was prefixed.
 systemd-

 Follow-on question: any risk in moving to the latest version of systemd?
 The version on the flasher is 44, the version on freedesktop.org is 213 and
 two years newer...

 This is just the way Debian works. stable aka Wheezy is frozen, so
 only bug fixes are allowed.  As we start getting closer to Debian
 Jessie's freeze date, I'll start pushing out offical testing images.

 But there's nothing stopping you from running:

 sudo sed -i 's/wheezy/jessie/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
 sudo apt-get update
 sudo apt-get upgrade

 Then you'll get systemd 204

 http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/systemd.html

Of course, i just noticed, the stable backport of systemd
204-8~bpo70+1 is available right now.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-29 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 1:00 AM,  michael.du...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:37:13 PM UTC-7, RobertCNelson wrote:

 It's there just an older version of systemd where it was prefixed.
 systemd-

 Follow-on question: any risk in moving to the latest version of systemd?
 The version on the flasher is 44, the version on freedesktop.org is 213 and
 two years newer...

 This is just the way Debian works. stable aka Wheezy is frozen, so
 only bug fixes are allowed.  As we start getting closer to Debian
 Jessie's freeze date, I'll start pushing out offical testing images.

 But there's nothing stopping you from running:

 sudo sed -i 's/wheezy/jessie/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
 sudo apt-get update
 sudo apt-get upgrade

 Then you'll get systemd 204

 http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/systemd.html

 Of course, i just noticed, the stable backport of systemd
 204-8~bpo70+1 is available right now.

Enable:

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free

in /etc/apt/sources.list


sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get -t wheezy-backports install systemd
sudo reboot

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-28 Thread Rick Reynolds
Ok, I took a little different tack. I just copied  
/usr/bin/xinput_calibrator from a non-customized BBB to my custom image and 
it works great.

Thanks again for all your hard work Robert. You have taught me volumes.

On Friday, May 23, 2014 6:34:54 PM UTC-5, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Rick Reynolds 
 rwrm...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  Thanks for your help, and all your hard work, Robert. I have used your 
  documentation extensively. 
  
  When I execute ./autogen.sh --with-gui=x11 either directly on the 
 bone, 
  from a an LXTerminal session, or over ssh I get the same end result. 
 it's 
  basically the same thing I saw when trying to cross build. 
  
  checking string usability... no 
  checking string presence... no 
  checking for string... no 
  checking list usability... no 
  checking list presence... no 
  checking for list... no 
  
  checking for stdbool.h that conforms to C99... yes 
  checking for _Bool... yes 
  checking for working strtod... yes 
  ./configure: line 4987: syntax error near unexpected token `XINPUT,' 
  ./configure: line 4987: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(XINPUT, x11 xext xi 
 inputproto)' 

 Install xinput 

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[beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-28 Thread michael . duffy
I'm running the latest (flashed to mmc) on a Rev B BBB.  
*/boot/uboot/ID.txt* contains *BeagleBoard.org BeagleBone Debian Image 
2014-05-14*

The image appears to be missing *journalctl*, e.g. *find / -name journalctl 
*returns nothing.  dpkg reports systemd is installed (and the *systemd *command 
works).  What am I missing here?

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-28 Thread Robert Nelson
It's there just an older version of systemd where it was prefixed. systemd-
On May 28, 2014 4:23 PM, michael.du...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm running the latest (flashed to mmc) on a Rev B BBB.
 */boot/uboot/ID.txt* contains *BeagleBoard.org BeagleBone Debian Image
 2014-05-14*

 The image appears to be missing *journalctl*, e.g. *find / -name
 journalctl *returns nothing.  dpkg reports systemd is installed (and the 
 *systemd
 *command works).  What am I missing here?

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-28 Thread michael . duffy
As usual, thank you, Robert, for your quick response (and encyclopedic 
knowledge)

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-27 Thread Rick Reynolds
Hi Robert,

xinput is already installed. xinput version is reporting xinput version 
1.6.0 and xI version on server 2.2.

Here's the output from xinput list.

debian@arm:~/Downloads/xinput_calibrator$ xinput
⎡ Virtual core pointerid=2[master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer  id=4[slave  pointer  
(2)]
⎜   ↳ Logitech USB Optical Mouse  id=8[slave  pointer  
(2)]
⎜   ↳ eGalax Inc. USB TouchController id=9[slave  pointer  
(2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard   id=3[master keyboard (2)]
↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5[slave  keyboard 
(3)]
↳ Logitech USB Keyboard   id=6[slave  keyboard 
(3)]
↳ Logitech USB Keyboard   id=7[slave  keyboard 
(3)]

This is the output from apt-cache search xinput
debian@arm:~/Downloads/xinput_calibrator$ sudo apt-cache search xinput
chktex - Finds typographic errors in LaTeX
curtain - handy curtain for the desktop
gromit - GTK based tool to make annotations on screen
libxi-dev - X11 Input extension library (development headers)
libxi6 - X11 Input extension library
libxi6-dbg - X11 Input extension library (debug package)
lxde - LXDE metapackage
lxinput - LXDE keyboard and mouse configuration
lxinput-dbg - LXDE keyboard and mouse configuration (debug)
spotlighter - gtk interface to make annotations on the screen
whitedune - graphical VRML97/X3D viewer, editor, 3D modeller and animation 
tool
x11proto-kb-dev - X11 XKB extension wire protocol
xinput - Runtime configuration and test of XInput devices

This is the output from apt-cache search inputproto
x11proto-input-dev - X11 Input extension wire protocol



On Friday, May 23, 2014 6:34:54 PM UTC-5, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Rick Reynolds 
 rwrm...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  Thanks for your help, and all your hard work, Robert. I have used your 
  documentation extensively. 
  
  When I execute ./autogen.sh --with-gui=x11 either directly on the 
 bone, 
  from a an LXTerminal session, or over ssh I get the same end result. 
 it's 
  basically the same thing I saw when trying to cross build. 
  
  checking string usability... no 
  checking string presence... no 
  checking for string... no 
  checking list usability... no 
  checking list presence... no 
  checking for list... no 
  
  checking for stdbool.h that conforms to C99... yes 
  checking for _Bool... yes 
  checking for working strtod... yes 
  ./configure: line 4987: syntax error near unexpected token `XINPUT,' 
  ./configure: line 4987: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(XINPUT, x11 xext xi 
 inputproto)' 

 Install xinput 

 Regards, 

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[beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-23 Thread Rick Reynolds
Hi All, This is my first post on the group. Hope I'm in the correct place. 
Hate to sound like such a noob but, that's what I am. 

I am working with a Beaglebone Black revision B, 7 HDMI display and USB 
eGalax based touch screen. We are currently have 5 revision C boards on 
order.

I am booting from a 2gb sd using the 3.14.4-bone4.1 kernel and 
debian-7.5-minimal-armhf-2014-05-07 rootfs. I did a cross build on a Wheezy 
VM using the info from 
http://eewiki.net/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=13599118.
I have installed LXDE and everything is working really well. 

I have one small touchscreen issue however. It works correctly except that 
I cannot get the pointer to the edge of the screen. Not close enough to 
activate the panel menus and such.
From what I've read I believe the xinput-calibrator utility would help 
solve this issue. But, I can't find the package with sudo apt-get install 
xinput-calibrator.

I have downloaded the source for version 0.7.5 from freedesktop.org and I'm 
trying to cross build it. No luck so far... I know that this utility is 
installed by default on the latest Debian/LXDE images from Beagleboard.org 
but i really want to be able to configure and build all of this myself. 

What is the best method for providing the ./configure output and config.log 
content here? The tail of the ./configure output is below but I know it 
would probably be helpful to have the entire output and the config.log 
content. 

./configure output 
-
checking whether the 
/home/prism/bbb-dev/cc/linaro-03/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++ linker 
(/home/prism/bbb-dev/cc/gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-4.8-2014.03_linux/arm-linux-gnueabihf/bin/ld)
 
supports shared libraries... yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics... (cached) GNU/Linux ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking for X... no
checking for stdlib.h... (cached) yes
checking for string.h... (cached) yes
checking for stdbool.h that conforms to C99... yes
checking for _Bool... yes
checking for working strtod... no
checking for pow... no
checking for pow in -lm... yes
./configure: line 15509: syntax error near unexpected token `XINPUT,'
./configure: line 15509: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(XINPUT, x11 xext xi inputproto)'
prism@BBB-Dev-1:~/bbb-dev/cc/xinput-calibrator/xinput_calibrator-0.7.5$ ^C
prism@BBB-Dev-1:~/bbb-dev/cc/xinput-calibrator/xinput_calibrator-0.7.5$ 


Any help is greatly appreciated.

On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:51:19 PM UTC-6, Jason Kridner wrote:

 The latest BeagleBone Debian images are now posted at: 
 http://beagleboard.org/latest-images/

 If you've upgraded the firmware on your BeagleBone or BeagleBone Black in 
 the past, the experience will be quite similar, but you might find the eMMC 
 flashing times a bit faster (~15 minutes rather than ~45 minutes) due to 
 less post-installation processing. Using the 2GB uSD card image also 
 flashes a bit faster and can be resized to whatever your uSD card size is 
 using some scripts under /opt/scripts/tools.

 Many, many thanks to Robert Nelson, Rob Rittman, Dave Anders, Cody Lacey, 
 the Cloud9 IDE team and so many others in getting us this far.

 Please take the time to give a detailed look over this image and report 
 any issues to the bug tracker on elinux.org:
 http://bugs.elinux.org/projects/debian-image-releases

 While plugged in over USB, you'll see the familiar BEAGLE_BONE drive with 
 START.htm to tell you how to get the drivers configured if you haven't 
 already done so:

 [image: Inline image 2]


 Clicking the link or visiting http://192.168.7.2, you'll see the familiar 
 on-board served documentation:

 [image: Inline image 1]

 I've introduced a few bugs to the documentation (
 http://github.com/beaglebone/bone101 and 
 http://beagleboard.github.io/bone101), so expect to find a lot of issues 
 there. Patches are welcome as are notes in the bug tracker to make sure I 
 don't miss dotting any i's or crossing any t's. This is your chance to try 
 to get some documentation into the system you'd like to see. I felt it was 
 pretty safe to save the documentation as an in-beta item because it 
 shouldn't impact functionality.

 One of the biggest new features you'll see is when you click on the Cloud9 
 IDE link:

 [image: Inline image 3]

 This is a pre-open-source-beta-only release of version 3 of their IDE. 
 Down at the bottom of the Cloud9 IDE you'll see a new terminal window that 
 runs a full 'tmux' session. You can open up a bunch of these and it makes 
 logging into the board and executing command-line operations *super* simple.

 Cloud9 IDE version 3 now includes support for Python and the Adafruit_BBIO 
 library is included in these Debian images. That means you can simply paste 
 in your Python code and hit the run button, without any additional 
 download. I checked this out myself by doing a quick LED blink using the 
 Adafruit tutorial (
 

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-23 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Rick Reynolds rwrma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All, This is my first post on the group. Hope I'm in the correct place.
 Hate to sound like such a noob but, that's what I am.

 I am working with a Beaglebone Black revision B, 7 HDMI display and USB
 eGalax based touch screen. We are currently have 5 revision C boards on
 order.

 I am booting from a 2gb sd using the 3.14.4-bone4.1 kernel and
 debian-7.5-minimal-armhf-2014-05-07 rootfs. I did a cross build on a Wheezy
 VM using the info from
 http://eewiki.net/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=13599118.
 I have installed LXDE and everything is working really well.

 I have one small touchscreen issue however. It works correctly except that
 I cannot get the pointer to the edge of the screen. Not close enough to
 activate the panel menus and such.
 From what I've read I believe the xinput-calibrator utility would help
 solve this issue. But, I can't find the package with sudo apt-get install
 xinput-calibrator.

 I have downloaded the source for version 0.7.5 from freedesktop.org and
 I'm trying to cross build it. No luck so far... I know that this utility is
 installed by default on the latest Debian/LXDE images from Beagleboard.org
 but i really want to be able to configure and build all of this myself.


It's easier to just build in on the bone.. (make sure libxi-dev is
installed)

git clone https://github.com/tias/xinput_calibrator
cd xinput_calibrator
./autogen.sh --with-gui=x11
make
make install
make distclean

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-23 Thread Rick Reynolds
Thanks for your help, and all your hard work, Robert. I have used your 
documentation extensively.

When I execute ./autogen.sh --with-gui=x11 either directly on the bone, 
from a an LXTerminal session, or over ssh I get the same end result. it's 
basically the same thing I saw when trying to cross build.

checking string usability... no
checking string presence... no
checking for string... no
checking list usability... no
checking list presence... no
checking for list... no
checking for stdbool.h that conforms to C99... yes
checking for _Bool... yes
checking for working strtod... yes
./configure: line 4987: syntax error near unexpected token `XINPUT,'
./configure: line 4987: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(XINPUT, x11 xext xi inputproto)'


On Friday, May 23, 2014 11:37:05 AM UTC-5, RobertCNelson wrote:




 On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Rick Reynolds 
 rwrm...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Hi All, This is my first post on the group. Hope I'm in the correct 
 place. Hate to sound like such a noob but, that's what I am. 

 I am working with a Beaglebone Black revision B, 7 HDMI display and USB 
 eGalax based touch screen. We are currently have 5 revision C boards on 
 order.

 I am booting from a 2gb sd using the 3.14.4-bone4.1 kernel and 
 debian-7.5-minimal-armhf-2014-05-07 rootfs. I did a cross build on a Wheezy 
 VM using the info from 
 http://eewiki.net/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=13599118.
 I have installed LXDE and everything is working really well. 

 I have one small touchscreen issue however. It works correctly except 
 that I cannot get the pointer to the edge of the screen. Not close enough 
 to activate the panel menus and such.
 From what I've read I believe the xinput-calibrator utility would help 
 solve this issue. But, I can't find the package with sudo apt-get install 
 xinput-calibrator.

 I have downloaded the source for version 0.7.5 from freedesktop.org and 
 I'm trying to cross build it. No luck so far... I know that this utility is 
 installed by default on the latest Debian/LXDE images from Beagleboard.org 
 but i really want to be able to configure and build all of this myself. 


 It's easier to just build in on the bone.. (make sure libxi-dev is 
 installed)

 git clone https://github.com/tias/xinput_calibrator
 cd xinput_calibrator
 ./autogen.sh --with-gui=x11
 make
 make install
 make distclean

 Regards,

 -- 
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-23 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Rick Reynolds rwrma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for your help, and all your hard work, Robert. I have used your
 documentation extensively.

 When I execute ./autogen.sh --with-gui=x11 either directly on the bone,
 from a an LXTerminal session, or over ssh I get the same end result. it's
 basically the same thing I saw when trying to cross build.

 checking string usability... no
 checking string presence... no
 checking for string... no
 checking list usability... no
 checking list presence... no
 checking for list... no

 checking for stdbool.h that conforms to C99... yes
 checking for _Bool... yes
 checking for working strtod... yes
 ./configure: line 4987: syntax error near unexpected token `XINPUT,'
 ./configure: line 4987: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(XINPUT, x11 xext xi inputproto)'

Install xinput

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[beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-20 Thread michael . duffy
*RobertCNelson*:

I am running 2014-05-14 debian (flasher), and I can reliably generate a 
kernel null pointer dereference using no more than 
/sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots and /lib/firmware/BB-SPIDEV1-00A0.dtbo.

Any interest?  If so, please 
see: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beaglebone/RpozbQ0gGH0 

Thanks for any help.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-20 Thread Robert Nelson
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 7:53 PM,  michael.du...@gmail.com wrote:
 RobertCNelson:

 I am running 2014-05-14 debian (flasher), and I can reliably generate a
 kernel null pointer dereference using no more than
 /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots and /lib/firmware/BB-SPIDEV1-00A0.dtbo.

Yes and No... You got a null pointer dereference when you unloaded a
cape, which is a long time old known issue. The only way to
properly unload a cape is to reboot with the v3.8.x based kernel.

 Any interest?  If so, please see:
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beaglebone/RpozbQ0gGH0

Ah, i see. So you guys are on the other forum, if you would have
searched the main one (this one) you would have seen this old issue
discussed a few times over the last year.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-20 Thread Robert Nelson
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 7:53 PM,  michael.du...@gmail.com wrote:
 RobertCNelson:

 I am running 2014-05-14 debian (flasher), and I can reliably generate a
 kernel null pointer dereference using no more than
 /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots and /lib/firmware/BB-SPIDEV1-00A0.dtbo.

 Yes and No... You got a null pointer dereference when you unloaded a
 cape, which is a long time old known issue. The only way to
 properly unload a cape is to reboot with the v3.8.x based kernel.

 Any interest?  If so, please see:
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beaglebone/RpozbQ0gGH0

 Ah, i see. So you guys are on the other forum, if you would have
 searched the main one (this one) you would have seen this old issue
 discussed a few times over the last year.

to follow up:

root@am335x-boneblack-512mb-0:/home/voodoo# uname -r
3.8.13-bone54

root@am335x-boneblack-512mb-0:/home/voodoo# export
SLOTS=/sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
root@am335x-boneblack-512mb-0:/home/voodoo# cat $SLOTS
 0: 54:PF---
 1: 55:PF---
 2: 56:PF---
 3: 57:PF---
 4: ff:P-O-- Bone-LT-eMMC-2G,00A0,Texas Instrument,BB-BONE-EMMC-2G
 5: ff:P-O-- Bone-Black-HDMI,00A0,Texas Instrument,BB-BONELT-HDMI
 6: ff:P-O-- Bone-Black-HDMIN,00A0,Texas Instrument,BB-BONELT-HDMIN

root@am335x-boneblack-512mb-0:/home/voodoo# echo BB-SPIDEV1  $SLOTS

[   96.506849] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: part_number 'BB-SPIDEV1',
version 'N/A'
[   96.516565] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #7: generic override
[   96.523225] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: bone: Using override
eeprom data at slot 7
[   96.531389] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #7: 'Override Board
Name,00A0,Override Manuf,BB-SPIDEV1'
[   96.541719] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #7: Requesting part
number/version based 'BB-SPIDEV1-00A0.dtbo
[   96.552162] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #7: Requesting
firmware 'BB-SPIDEV1-00A0.dtbo' for board-name 'Override Board Name',
version '00A0'
[   96.570136] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #7: dtbo
'BB-SPIDEV1-00A0.dtbo' loaded; converting to live tree
[   96.581977] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #7: #2 overlays
[   96.629134] edma-dma-engine edma-dma-engine.0: allocated channel for 0:45
[   96.643245] edma-dma-engine edma-dma-engine.0: allocated channel for 0:44
[   96.692195] edma-dma-engine edma-dma-engine.0: allocated channel for 0:43
[   96.706484] edma-dma-engine edma-dma-engine.0: allocated channel for 0:42
[   96.725354] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #7: Applied #2 overlays.

root@am335x-boneblack-512mb-0:/home/voodoo# ls /dev/spidev1.*
/dev/spidev1.0  /dev/spidev1.1


works for me..

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-05-20 Thread Michael Duffy
Thanks, Robert.  Sorry for not searching in the right place.  Now I know.


On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:25 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 7:53 PM,  michael.du...@gmail.com wrote:
  RobertCNelson:
 
  I am running 2014-05-14 debian (flasher), and I can reliably generate a
  kernel null pointer dereference using no more than
  /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots and
 /lib/firmware/BB-SPIDEV1-00A0.dtbo.
 
  Yes and No... You got a null pointer dereference when you unloaded a
  cape, which is a long time old known issue. The only way to
  properly unload a cape is to reboot with the v3.8.x based kernel.
 
  Any interest?  If so, please see:
  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beaglebone/RpozbQ0gGH0
 
  Ah, i see. So you guys are on the other forum, if you would have
  searched the main one (this one) you would have seen this old issue
  discussed a few times over the last year.

 to follow up:

 root@am335x-boneblack-512mb-0:/home/voodoo# uname -r
 3.8.13-bone54

 root@am335x-boneblack-512mb-0:/home/voodoo# export
 SLOTS=/sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
 root@am335x-boneblack-512mb-0:/home/voodoo# cat $SLOTS
  0: 54:PF---
  1: 55:PF---
  2: 56:PF---
  3: 57:PF---
  4: ff:P-O-- Bone-LT-eMMC-2G,00A0,Texas Instrument,BB-BONE-EMMC-2G
  5: ff:P-O-- Bone-Black-HDMI,00A0,Texas Instrument,BB-BONELT-HDMI
  6: ff:P-O-- Bone-Black-HDMIN,00A0,Texas Instrument,BB-BONELT-HDMIN

 root@am335x-boneblack-512mb-0:/home/voodoo# echo BB-SPIDEV1  $SLOTS

 [   96.506849] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: part_number 'BB-SPIDEV1',
 version 'N/A'
 [   96.516565] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #7: generic override
 [   96.523225] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: bone: Using override
 eeprom data at slot 7
 [   96.531389] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #7: 'Override Board
 Name,00A0,Override Manuf,BB-SPIDEV1'
 [   96.541719] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #7: Requesting part
 number/version based 'BB-SPIDEV1-00A0.dtbo
 [   96.552162] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #7: Requesting
 firmware 'BB-SPIDEV1-00A0.dtbo' for board-name 'Override Board Name',
 version '00A0'
 [   96.570136] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #7: dtbo
 'BB-SPIDEV1-00A0.dtbo' loaded; converting to live tree
 [   96.581977] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #7: #2 overlays
 [   96.629134] edma-dma-engine edma-dma-engine.0: allocated channel for
 0:45
 [   96.643245] edma-dma-engine edma-dma-engine.0: allocated channel for
 0:44
 [   96.692195] edma-dma-engine edma-dma-engine.0: allocated channel for
 0:43
 [   96.706484] edma-dma-engine edma-dma-engine.0: allocated channel for
 0:42
 [   96.725354] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #7: Applied #2 overlays.

 root@am335x-boneblack-512mb-0:/home/voodoo# ls /dev/spidev1.*
 /dev/spidev1.0  /dev/spidev1.1


 works for me..

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[beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-04-25 Thread vitor de miranda henrique
Hello Everyone,

I'm having problems with the latest debian build (2014-04-23) and the WIFI 
dongle Edimax EW-7811Un.

I follow this link 
(https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beaglebone/Q92uD9F1us8) to set up 
the dongle, can connect to wifi, but the connection is faulty, works for 
couple of minutes and than just stops.

Raspiberry Pi works great with the same adapter, where can i find a better 
drive for this dongle? what is the best dongle to use with this Debian 
images?

Thank you,

Vitor Henrique


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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-04-16 Thread Dennis Cote
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 11:57:11 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Dennis Cote 
 den...@harding.cajavascript: 
 wrote: 
  On Thursday, March 20, 2014 11:29:10 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote: 
  
  However it works better if you add it via xset/xsetroot: 
  
  root@beaglebone:~# cat /home/debian/.xsessionrc 
  #!/bin/sh 
  
  xset -dpms 
  xset s off 
  xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr 
  
  and just remove the  [Option  SWCursor  true] line 
  from /etc/X11/xorg.conf 
  
  
  Robert, 
  
  My .xsessionrc file looks identical to yours, and I did not have 
 SWCursor 
  anywhere in my xorg.conf file, so there was nothing to remove. 
  
  My mouse pointer definitely becomes invisible when I logout. 

 okay, so when i switch back to v3.8, i see this now too.. Weird, as 
 v3.13.x it works.  Might just have to go back to the xorg.conf 
 workaround. 


Hi Robert,

I hope this isn't a repeat. I thought I posted a similar message earlier 
today, but it has not showed up in the group (at least for me), so I am 
retrying.

Today I downloaded and installed a fresh copy of the latest, 2014-04-14, 
Debian image. Previously I had been using your update scripts to update my 
installation to the latest version, but I noticed there wasn't an update 
script for this version when I did a git pull in the /opt/scripts directory.

While using the new version I noticed that I had the same problems with my 
mouse pointer becoming invisible whenever I log out of LXDE, and the DPMS 
screen blanking being disabled, that I had reported earlier.

To correct this I removed the ~/.xsessionrc file to get the default, On, 
state for the dpms screen blanking. I also had to add the following line to 
the end of the Device section of the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. Without this 
line I had no mouse pointer at all.

Option SWCursor true 

I now have a mouse pointer that remains visible across LXDE logout/login 
cycles, and my screen now turns off after 10 minutes of inactivity. 

I really think this a better default setup since the BBB behave like a 
standard desktop PC (I have a USB keyboard and mouse, and an HDMI monitor). 
New users will get correct and standard operation. More experienced users 
can change these behaviors if they need to (to disable screen blanking on a 
kiosk for example), especially if there are clear instructions on how to do 
so.

While testing the changes to the ~/.xsessionrc file I notice that I am 
getting a ~/.xsession-errors file created on each reboot. This file 
contains the following message:

Openbox-Message: Unable to find a valid menu file 
/usr/share/lxde/openbox/menu.xml

Dennis Cote
 

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[beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-04-13 Thread mail . aroessler
Has this image OpenGL/SGX support? I would need it to get QtQuick running 
on it. Last year I was not able to get the driver compiled but as far as I 
remember TI has published some kernel patches back then.

Am Mittwoch, 5. März 2014 23:51:19 UTC+1 schrieb Jason Kridner:

 The latest BeagleBone Debian images are now posted at: 
 http://beagleboard.org/latest-images/

 If you've upgraded the firmware on your BeagleBone or BeagleBone Black in 
 the past, the experience will be quite similar, but you might find the eMMC 
 flashing times a bit faster (~15 minutes rather than ~45 minutes) due to 
 less post-installation processing. Using the 2GB uSD card image also 
 flashes a bit faster and can be resized to whatever your uSD card size is 
 using some scripts under /opt/scripts/tools.

 Many, many thanks to Robert Nelson, Rob Rittman, Dave Anders, Cody Lacey, 
 the Cloud9 IDE team and so many others in getting us this far.

 Please take the time to give a detailed look over this image and report 
 any issues to the bug tracker on elinux.org:
 http://bugs.elinux.org/projects/debian-image-releases

 While plugged in over USB, you'll see the familiar BEAGLE_BONE drive with 
 START.htm to tell you how to get the drivers configured if you haven't 
 already done so:

 [image: Inline image 2]


 Clicking the link or visiting http://192.168.7.2, you'll see the familiar 
 on-board served documentation:

 [image: Inline image 1]

 I've introduced a few bugs to the documentation (
 http://github.com/beaglebone/bone101 and 
 http://beagleboard.github.io/bone101), so expect to find a lot of issues 
 there. Patches are welcome as are notes in the bug tracker to make sure I 
 don't miss dotting any i's or crossing any t's. This is your chance to try 
 to get some documentation into the system you'd like to see. I felt it was 
 pretty safe to save the documentation as an in-beta item because it 
 shouldn't impact functionality.

 One of the biggest new features you'll see is when you click on the Cloud9 
 IDE link:

 [image: Inline image 3]

 This is a pre-open-source-beta-only release of version 3 of their IDE. 
 Down at the bottom of the Cloud9 IDE you'll see a new terminal window that 
 runs a full 'tmux' session. You can open up a bunch of these and it makes 
 logging into the board and executing command-line operations *super* simple.

 Cloud9 IDE version 3 now includes support for Python and the Adafruit_BBIO 
 library is included in these Debian images. That means you can simply paste 
 in your Python code and hit the run button, without any additional 
 download. I checked this out myself by doing a quick LED blink using the 
 Adafruit tutorial (
 http://learn.adafruit.com/blinking-an-led-with-beaglebone-black/writing-a-program
 ):

 [image: Inline image 4]

 You should also note that the /var/lib/cloud9 directory now contains a git 
 clone of that bone101 repo (http://github.com/beagleboard/bone101), so 
 you can start using the Cloud9 IDE to edit the content live. What I 
 recommend is creating your own fork of the repo and sending me pull 
 requests of any changes you'd like to see.

 You can also edit C/C++ code in the Cloud9 IDE, but no 'builder' or 
 'runner' plug-ins are provided. You will, however, find the 
 Userspace-Arduino (http://elinux.org/Userspace_Arduino) code in 
 /opt/source/Userspace-Arduino. Here's a quick little exercise you can do to 
 blink LED0:

 root@beaglebone# cd 
 /opt/source/Userspace-Arduino/arduino-makefile/examples/Blink
 root@beaglebone# perl -i -pe 's/13/14/g' Blink.ino
 root@beaglebone# make
 root@beaglebone# ./build-userspace/Blink.elf

 For more advanced C/C++ developers, future releases should include 
 https://github.com/jackmitch/libsoc.

 Those familiar with Linux will also note that the init system is 
 'systemd', which has been helpful in providing reasonable boot times. If 
 you are looking for the journal, you can explore it using 
 'systemd-journalctl'.

 I use a Mac and despite the latest version of HoRNDIS fixing issues with 
 Internet Connection Sharing, getting on the WIFI at home makes getting my 
 BeagleBones on the network much easier, further making grabbing new 
 packages with 'sudo apt-get install' much simpler. Drivers and firmware for 
 many common USB WiFi dongles are included, so be sure to report any that 
 you find missing. These latest images include the drivers for the popular 
 UWN200 adapters provided by Logic Supply. To test it out myself, I 
 uncommented and edited the wlan0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces 
 (including replacing wlan0 with ra0), shutdown, plugged in the adapter and 
 powered up the board again. I'm seeing the issue rt28xx_open return 
 fail!, but I'm sure this is something we can fix in a few days and provide 
 an updated image. I removed that adapter and plugged in an adapter I bought 
 from Adafruit (and switched ra0 back to wlan0) and got the issue 
 rtl8192cu:_rtl92cu_init_power_on():0-0 Failed to polling 
 

[beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-04-07 Thread mbbackus
I'm still running into some annoying root/debian user permissions problems. 
First, I have to switch to the root user in order to run a script I wrote 
to share the host computer's Internet connection. Second, when I push to 
git I get an error message about permission denied. The push goes through 
okay, but I don't know how to go about fixing whatever is causing the error.

Below is a screen shot of my terminal that shows exactly what I'm doing.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MbMTeKPhBsA/U0GK5wa8x7I/AHE/0VQ0LkDZdBA/s1600/Git+Error.PNG

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-04-07 Thread mbbackus
Yes and no. The solution was worse than the problem. Updating to the 
development kernel as mentioned above resulted in better support for Wifi 
but an unstable LXDE environment. At this point I just don't rely on Wifi.

On Friday, April 4, 2014 9:03:12 AM UTC-8, Toni Salaet Larrull wrote:

 I have the same problem...

 You could solve it?



 El dimecres 2 d’abril de 2014 8:09:52 UTC+2, mbba...@gmail.com va 
 escriure:

 What is the problem with the default kernel? That wifi doesn't work good 
 in general, that it doesn't connect to unsecured networks, that Wicd is 
 buggy and will freeze up the BeagleBone? I went ahead and updated the 
 kernel. I am now able to connect to secured and unsecured networks using 
 the Adafruit dongle. I had limited success with the netgear wna1100 which 
 definitely does NOW work better than the Adafruit dongle. The UWN200 also 
 came in the mail today, but the BeagleBone was unable to detect it. Is it 
 supposed to run out of the box on the newer images, or do I have to 
 implement some sort of fix? The adafruit dongle shows up as wlan0, and the 
 netgear shows up as wlan1. I read that the uwn200 is supposed to show up as 
 ra0, but when I switch wicd accordingly, it still doesn't detect the 
 dongle, and there's no wifi when I run ifconfig.

 Also, is there any way to log into lxde using the root user? That would 
 save me and my students some typing and other problems (such as opening 
 certain files with leafpad, etc.).

 Again, thanks for all the work you're putting into this image. You're 
 ironing out a lot of the kinds that my students have been stumbling over.



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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-04-04 Thread Toni Salaet Larrull
I have the same problem...

You could solve it?



El dimecres 2 d’abril de 2014 8:09:52 UTC+2, mbba...@gmail.com va escriure:

 What is the problem with the default kernel? That wifi doesn't work good 
 in general, that it doesn't connect to unsecured networks, that Wicd is 
 buggy and will freeze up the BeagleBone? I went ahead and updated the 
 kernel. I am now able to connect to secured and unsecured networks using 
 the Adafruit dongle. I had limited success with the netgear wna1100 which 
 definitely does NOW work better than the Adafruit dongle. The UWN200 also 
 came in the mail today, but the BeagleBone was unable to detect it. Is it 
 supposed to run out of the box on the newer images, or do I have to 
 implement some sort of fix? The adafruit dongle shows up as wlan0, and the 
 netgear shows up as wlan1. I read that the uwn200 is supposed to show up as 
 ra0, but when I switch wicd accordingly, it still doesn't detect the 
 dongle, and there's no wifi when I run ifconfig.

 Also, is there any way to log into lxde using the root user? That would 
 save me and my students some typing and other problems (such as opening 
 certain files with leafpad, etc.).

 Again, thanks for all the work you're putting into this image. You're 
 ironing out a lot of the kinds that my students have been stumbling over.


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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-04-02 Thread mbbackus
What is the problem with the default kernel? That wifi doesn't work good in 
general, that it doesn't connect to unsecured networks, that Wicd is buggy 
and will freeze up the BeagleBone? I went ahead and updated the kernel. I 
am now able to connect to secured and unsecured networks using the Adafruit 
dongle. I had limited success with the netgear wna1100 which definitely 
does NOW work better than the Adafruit dongle. The UWN200 also came in the 
mail today, but the BeagleBone was unable to detect it. Is it supposed to 
run out of the box on the newer images, or do I have to implement some sort 
of fix? The adafruit dongle shows up as wlan0, and the netgear shows up as 
wlan1. I read that the uwn200 is supposed to show up as ra0, but when I 
switch wicd accordingly, it still doesn't detect the dongle, and there's no 
wifi when I run ifconfig.

Also, is there any way to log into lxde using the root user? That would 
save me and my students some typing and other problems (such as opening 
certain files with leafpad, etc.).

Again, thanks for all the work you're putting into this image. You're 
ironing out a lot of the kinds that my students have been stumbling over.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-04-02 Thread Dennis Cote
On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 7:34:37 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 The is problem with the default 3.8 kernel, if your not using any 
 cape's switch to the 3.13.x based kernel 

 cd /opt/script/tools/ 
 git pull 
 sudo ./update_kernel.sh --beta-kernel 


I just thought others might want to know that switching to the 3.13.6-bone8 
kernel also changes the resolution of the HDMI display output from 720p 
(i.e. 1280 x 720) to 1280 x 960, a 33% increase in display real estate. I 
suspect there is no audio at this resolution, but I have a monitor 
connected and not a TV, so I can't tell.

HTH
Dennis Cote
 

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-04-02 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:
 On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 7:34:37 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 The is problem with the default 3.8 kernel, if your not using any
 cape's switch to the 3.13.x based kernel

 cd /opt/script/tools/
 git pull
 sudo ./update_kernel.sh --beta-kernel


 I just thought others might want to know that switching to the 3.13.6-bone8
 kernel also changes the resolution of the HDMI display output from 720p
 (i.e. 1280 x 720) to 1280 x 960, a 33% increase in display real estate. I
 suspect there is no audio at this resolution, but I have a monitor connected
 and not a TV, so I can't tell.

Correct, hdmi audio is currently disabled with the v3.13.x patchset,
so you'll get non-audio resolution options. I was seeing headache
inducing screen shakes on my work monitor, will try again with v3.14.x
(the patchset hasn't hit mainline yet).

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-04-02 Thread KurtE
Question:  For the fun of it, I updated my system to the latest build 
(3/31) Also updated the kernel using the script you mentioned.

Then thought I would test out building and running my Hexapod code. As part 
of my code base I have some Sound output including Tones (beeps) using Alsa 
as well as Espeak... 

I git cloned the stuff down from my github project: 
https://github.com/KurtE/Raspberry_Pi  (Sorry about the project name) and 
did the stuff in my Readme file that included sudo apt-get of the stuff for 
ALSA and Espeak and got everything to build.  I use an external USB sound 
adapter.  With previous builds I was able to get the sound to work by 
creating a sound configuration file: /etc/asound.conf pcm. with the content 
of:
!default sysdefault:Device

So far when I try it with this build I am not having much luck:

Still investigating.  Suggestions?  

Seeing messages like:

kurt@beaglebone:~$ cat /etc/asound.conf
!default sysdefault:Device

kurt@beaglebone:~$ espeak Hi There
ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver 
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat 
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer 
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or 
directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM sysdefault
ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver 
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat 
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer 
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or 
directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM sysdefault
ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver 
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat 
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer 
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or 
directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM front
ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear
ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.center_lfe
ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side
ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver 
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat 
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer 
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or 
directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround40
ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver 
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat 
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer 
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or 
directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround41
ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver 
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat 
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib 

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-04-01 Thread mbbackus
My BeagleBone part of a primitive robot with a breadboard strapped to the 
top, and servo motors underneath. The wifi dongle was between both. For 
this reason, I dug out my unpowered USB hub and used it as an extender to 
get the wifi dong'e away from all the metal. I powered the beagle bone with 
an external power supply and remoted into it via usb. I was able to get the 
Adafruit dongle to connect to my secured home network 1 out of three times 
this time around as well as a secured hotspot hosted by my phone. This was 
better than the netgrear wna1100 which was only able to connect to the 
secured hotspot (not my regular home network). Neither was able to connect 
to an unsecured hotspot. Attempts to connect via wifi also seem to cause 
the BeagleBone to freeze up frequently. Any ideas?

Also, it would be really handy if the default user was root (like on 
Angstrom) so that I didn't have to type sudo su before most terminal 
commands. This would also allow me to open files more easily. I'm guessing 
this would also allow the user to reboot and shutdown the beaglebone, 
options which are missing from LXDE at this point, and which cannot be 
execute from the command line using the debian user.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-04-01 Thread Robert Nelson
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:54 AM,  mbbac...@gmail.com wrote:
 My BeagleBone part of a primitive robot with a breadboard strapped to the
 top, and servo motors underneath. The wifi dongle was between both. For this
 reason, I dug out my unpowered USB hub and used it as an extender to get the
 wifi dong'e away from all the metal. I powered the beagle bone with an
 external power supply and remoted into it via usb. I was able to get the
 Adafruit dongle to connect to my secured home network 1 out of three times
 this time around as well as a secured hotspot hosted by my phone. This was
 better than the netgrear wna1100 which was only able to connect to the
 secured hotspot (not my regular home network). Neither was able to connect
 to an unsecured hotspot. Attempts to connect via wifi also seem to cause the
 BeagleBone to freeze up frequently. Any ideas?

The is problem with the default 3.8 kernel, if your not using any
cape's switch to the 3.13.x based kernel

cd /opt/script/tools/
git pull
sudo ./update_kernel.sh --beta-kernel


 Also, it would be really handy if the default user was root (like on
 Angstrom) so that I didn't have to type sudo su before most terminal
 commands. This would also allow me to open files more easily. I'm guessing
 this would also allow the user to reboot and shutdown the beaglebone,
 options which are missing from LXDE at this point, and which cannot be
 execute from the command line using the debian user.

There is a default root user (no password like Angstrom) we just don't
log into that user via lxde.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-28 Thread mbbackus
I downloaded and tested the March 27th image today. Thanks for including 
xrdp-it made testing wifi go much faster. Here's what I found.

   - I was able to connect to a WPA2 secured network at the school where I 
   teach
   - I was unable to connect to my cell phone when unsecured (Android 
   portable wifi hotspot)
   - I was able to connect to my cell phone if I secured the connection 
   (WPA2 PSK)
   - I was unable to connect to a WPA2 secured network at home
   - One of my students was able to connect to the WPA2 secured school 
   network, another was unable to connect
   - The students that was unable to connect to the school network was also 
   unable to connect to my cell phone (secured as well-didn't try unsecured)
   - I was able to create an ad-hoc network (at least I think it did 
   because it showed up in Wicd)
   
We were all using the tiny Adafruit dongles and tethered to BeagleBones via 
USB. Whenever we were unable to connect, we could see the connection-it 
just timed out when trying to get an IP (unsecured networks) or 
authenticating (secured network). Any ideas?

I also tried setting up an ad-hoc network. It showed up within Wicd, but I 
wasn't able to detect it with a computer, my Android cell phone, or an 
iPhone. Is ad-hoc working for anybody else?

Given the inconsistency, I'm guessing the problem is hardware (the dongle), 
so I ordered a few of the Netgear WNA1100 dongles. Should have them in a 
couple of weeks.

Also, looks like the eMMC version doesn't have Wicd functioning out of the 
box.

Thanks for all the work you're putting into this.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Steve French of Volt Vision
 voltvis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Robert,
 Thanks for the flurry of updated Debian images for testing (3/4, 3/19,
 3/27).  I am happily trying the different images, but when I download the
 image and start from scratch it takes me several hours to get back to the
 point where I can use my system again.  I use Open Lighting Architecture and
 it takes me about 4+hours to do everything necessary to compile it from
 source.  Could I update to your newest distros somehow by running a script
 (Mar4 - Mar19 - Mar27)? ... or is it necessary to wipe everything out and
 reflash the image from scratch?  Some of my BBBs I flash the eMMC and some
 of them I boot directly from the uSD.  Thx!! (and sorry if this has already
 been answered somewhere).

 cd /opt/scripts/fixes
 git pull

 sudo ./debian-2014-03-04-to-2014-03-19.sh
 sudo ./debian-2014-03-19-to-2014-03-27.sh

PS: you can see to review the change here:

https://github.com/RobertCNelson/boot-scripts/tree/master/fixes

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-28 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Steve French of Volt Vision
voltvis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Robert,
 Thanks for the flurry of updated Debian images for testing (3/4, 3/19,
 3/27).  I am happily trying the different images, but when I download the
 image and start from scratch it takes me several hours to get back to the
 point where I can use my system again.  I use Open Lighting Architecture and
 it takes me about 4+hours to do everything necessary to compile it from
 source.  Could I update to your newest distros somehow by running a script
 (Mar4 - Mar19 - Mar27)? ... or is it necessary to wipe everything out and
 reflash the image from scratch?  Some of my BBBs I flash the eMMC and some
 of them I boot directly from the uSD.  Thx!! (and sorry if this has already
 been answered somewhere).

cd /opt/scripts/fixes
git pull

sudo ./debian-2014-03-04-to-2014-03-19.sh
sudo ./debian-2014-03-19-to-2014-03-27.sh

The only thing it doesn't do is update the bootloader from v2013.10 in
2014-03-04 to v2014.04-rc in 2014-03-19+

For that:

cd /opt/scripts/tools/
sudo ./update_bootloader.sh

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-28 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 3/28/2014 9:15 AM, Robert Nelson wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Steve French of Volt Vision
 voltvis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Robert,
 Thanks for the flurry of updated Debian images for testing (3/4, 3/19,
 3/27).  I am happily trying the different images, but when I download the
 image and start from scratch it takes me several hours to get back to the
 point where I can use my system again.  I use Open Lighting Architecture and
 it takes me about 4+hours to do everything necessary to compile it from
 source.  Could I update to your newest distros somehow by running a script
 (Mar4 - Mar19 - Mar27)? ... or is it necessary to wipe everything out and
 reflash the image from scratch?  Some of my BBBs I flash the eMMC and some
 of them I boot directly from the uSD.  Thx!! (and sorry if this has already
 been answered somewhere).
 
 cd /opt/scripts/fixes
 git pull
 
 sudo ./debian-2014-03-04-to-2014-03-19.sh
 sudo ./debian-2014-03-19-to-2014-03-27.sh

Another option is to put your lighting code on a network file share, or
you can rsync the build directory to a server somewhere.  You'll
probably have to re-run some of the build steps (like the install part)
when switching to a clean OS, but it ought to take much less than 4
hours to setup from scratch, and you shouldn't have to actually
recompile anything (which is typically _slow_ on the BBB).

I worked this way when getting LinuxCNC running on the BBB.  I mounted a
home directory via nfs from a remote server, and I was able to swap
between various boards and OS installs while keeping a consistent
development environment.  This also let me use some tools running on
full-blown Linux and Windows systems that would have been a bit heavy
for the BBB (my regular text editor, some graphical git utilities, etc).

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-28 Thread William Hermans
+1 for NFS mounted shares. I like to share out a rootfs for my BBB, and
then run Samba from the server so I can map the drive on Windows to make
things easier for me. Since I run many dev tools on Windows, including a
cross compile setup.


On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Charles Steinkuehler 
char...@steinkuehler.net wrote:

 On 3/28/2014 9:15 AM, Robert Nelson wrote:
  On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Steve French of Volt Vision
  voltvis...@gmail.com wrote:
  Robert,
  Thanks for the flurry of updated Debian images for testing (3/4, 3/19,
  3/27).  I am happily trying the different images, but when I download
 the
  image and start from scratch it takes me several hours to get back to
 the
  point where I can use my system again.  I use Open Lighting
 Architecture and
  it takes me about 4+hours to do everything necessary to compile it from
  source.  Could I update to your newest distros somehow by running a
 script
  (Mar4 - Mar19 - Mar27)? ... or is it necessary to wipe everything out
 and
  reflash the image from scratch?  Some of my BBBs I flash the eMMC and
 some
  of them I boot directly from the uSD.  Thx!! (and sorry if this has
 already
  been answered somewhere).
 
  cd /opt/scripts/fixes
  git pull
 
  sudo ./debian-2014-03-04-to-2014-03-19.sh
  sudo ./debian-2014-03-19-to-2014-03-27.sh

 Another option is to put your lighting code on a network file share, or
 you can rsync the build directory to a server somewhere.  You'll
 probably have to re-run some of the build steps (like the install part)
 when switching to a clean OS, but it ought to take much less than 4
 hours to setup from scratch, and you shouldn't have to actually
 recompile anything (which is typically _slow_ on the BBB).

 I worked this way when getting LinuxCNC running on the BBB.  I mounted a
 home directory via nfs from a remote server, and I was able to swap
 between various boards and OS installs while keeping a consistent
 development environment.  This also let me use some tools running on
 full-blown Linux and Windows systems that would have been a bit heavy
 for the BBB (my regular text editor, some graphical git utilities, etc).

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[beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-27 Thread Mark A. Yoder
I see a 2014-03-26 image has appeared.  Unfortunately when I flash [1] and 
boot from it, it appears to never leave u-boot.  Just 3 LEDs light and it 
just hangs.

I try this on two SD cards and both had the same behavior.

--Mark

[1] 
http://rcn-ee.net/deb/testing/2014-03-26/bone-debian-7.4-2014-03-26-2gb.img.xz 

On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 1:21:04 AM UTC-4, mbba...@gmail.com wrote:

 I really like the 2014-03-19 image. It solves most of the problems I was 
 having with Ubuntu and Angstrom. I am now able to connect wirelessly to WPA 
 secured networks using Adafruit's dongle while tethered via a USB cable! 
 This will make developing and debugging an autonomous robot that uses 
 computer vision infinitely easier.

 I do have a few ideas for making the image slightly better.

 First, any chance you can install xrdp? This would allow my students to 
 remote into the BeagleBone without having to access the Internet?

 Second, if I remember correctly it looks like the version designed to run 
 from the SD card lists wlan0 within Wicd, but the eMMC version does not. 
 IAny chance you can list wlan0 within Wicd for both versions?

 Third, I had to input the passphrase into Wicd, generate the PSK using 
 wpa_passphrase, and then add the PSK into Wicd. Not sure why. Maybe I'm 
 doing something wrong, but I suspect it's some sort of glitch with Wicd.


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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-27 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Mark A. Yoder mark.a.yo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I see a 2014-03-26 image has appeared.  Unfortunately when I flash [1] and
 boot from it, it appears to never leave u-boot.  Just 3 LEDs light and it
 just hangs.

Humm, that means uenvcmd wasn't defined in uEnv.txt.. I wonder how
that happened (1).  Does it help if you hold down the boot button?
What do you have flashed to the eMMC? (i have it setup to be
compatible with atleast Angstrom's 2013.06.20 u-boot)

1: 
https://github.com/beagleboard/image-builder/blob/master/target/boot/beagleboard.org.txt#L45


 I try this on two SD cards and both had the same behavior.

 --Mark

 [1]
 http://rcn-ee.net/deb/testing/2014-03-26/bone-debian-7.4-2014-03-26-2gb.img.xz

Testing now too..

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-27 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Mark A. Yoder mark.a.yo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I see a 2014-03-26 image has appeared.  Unfortunately when I flash [1] and
 boot from it, it appears to never leave u-boot.  Just 3 LEDs light and it
 just hangs.

 Humm, that means uenvcmd wasn't defined in uEnv.txt.. I wonder how
 that happened (1).  Does it help if you hold down the boot button?
 What do you have flashed to the eMMC? (i have it setup to be
 compatible with atleast Angstrom's 2013.06.20 u-boot)

 1: 
 https://github.com/beagleboard/image-builder/blob/master/target/boot/beagleboard.org.txt#L45


 I try this on two SD cards and both had the same behavior.

 --Mark

 [1]
 http://rcn-ee.net/deb/testing/2014-03-26/bone-debian-7.4-2014-03-26-2gb.img.xz

Okay tested, and i see the issue.. To save bandwidth i mirror the
kernel *.deb locally, which runs/updates at midnight, so the kernel
never got installed.  So i just need to add that error condition and
just rerun the script again..

Thanks for testing, sorry for the error!

*
U-Boot SPL 2014.04-rc2-00015-g99288ca (Mar 12 2014 - 09:49:41)
reading args
spl_load_image_fat_os: error reading image args, err - -1
reading u-boot.img
reading u-boot.img


U-Boot 2014.04-rc2-00015-g99288ca (Mar 12 2014 - 09:49:41)

I2C:   ready
DRAM:  512 MiB
NAND:  0 MiB
MMC:   OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1
*** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment

Net:   ethaddr not set. Validating first E-fuse MAC
cpsw, usb_ether
Hit any key to stop autoboot:  0
gpio: pin 53 (gpio 53) value is 1
mmc0 is current device
gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1
SD/MMC found on device 0
reading uEnv.txt
1390 bytes read in 5 ms (271.5 KiB/s)
gpio: pin 55 (gpio 55) value is 1
Loaded environment from uEnv.txt
Importing environment from mmc ...
Checking if uenvcmd is set ...
gpio: pin 56 (gpio 56) value is 1
Running uenvcmd ...
reading zImage
** Unable to read file zImage **
reading initrd.img
** Unable to read file initrd.img **
reading /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb
** Unable to read file /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb **
Bad Linux ARM zImage magic!

uenvcmd was not defined in uEnv.txt ...
gpio: pin 56 (gpio 56) value is 0
gpio: pin 55 (gpio 55) value is 0
gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 0
mmc1(part 0) is current device
gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1
SD/MMC found on device 1
** No partition table - mmc 1 **
Checking if uenvcmd is set ...
gpio: pin 56 (gpio 56) value is 1
Running uenvcmd ...
** No partition table - mmc 1 **
** No partition table - mmc 1 **
** No partition table - mmc 1 **
Bad Linux ARM zImage magic!

uenvcmd was not defined in uEnv.txt ...
Booting from nand ...

no devices available

no devices available
Bad Linux ARM zImage magic!
U-Boot#


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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-27 Thread Mark A. Yoder
Thanks Robert.  I'll watch for the update.

--Mark

On Thursday, March 27, 2014 12:22:12 PM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Robert Nelson 
 robert...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Mark A. Yoder 
  mark.a...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  I see a 2014-03-26 image has appeared.  Unfortunately when I flash [1] 
 and 
  boot from it, it appears to never leave u-boot.  Just 3 LEDs light and 
 it 
  just hangs. 
  
  Humm, that means uenvcmd wasn't defined in uEnv.txt.. I wonder how 
  that happened (1).  Does it help if you hold down the boot button? 
  What do you have flashed to the eMMC? (i have it setup to be 
  compatible with atleast Angstrom's 2013.06.20 u-boot) 
  
  1: 
 https://github.com/beagleboard/image-builder/blob/master/target/boot/beagleboard.org.txt#L45
  
  
  
  I try this on two SD cards and both had the same behavior. 
  
  --Mark 
  
  [1] 
  
 http://rcn-ee.net/deb/testing/2014-03-26/bone-debian-7.4-2014-03-26-2gb.img.xz
  

 Okay tested, and i see the issue.. To save bandwidth i mirror the 
 kernel *.deb locally, which runs/updates at midnight, so the kernel 
 never got installed.  So i just need to add that error condition and 
 just rerun the script again.. 

 Thanks for testing, sorry for the error! 

 * 
 U-Boot SPL 2014.04-rc2-00015-g99288ca (Mar 12 2014 - 09:49:41) 
 reading args 
 spl_load_image_fat_os: error reading image args, err - -1 
 reading u-boot.img 
 reading u-boot.img 


 U-Boot 2014.04-rc2-00015-g99288ca (Mar 12 2014 - 09:49:41) 

 I2C:   ready 
 DRAM:  512 MiB 
 NAND:  0 MiB 
 MMC:   OMAP SD/MMC: 0, OMAP SD/MMC: 1 
 *** Warning - readenv() failed, using default environment 

 Net:   ethaddr not set. Validating first E-fuse MAC 
 cpsw, usb_ether 
 Hit any key to stop autoboot:  0 
 gpio: pin 53 (gpio 53) value is 1 
 mmc0 is current device 
 gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1 
 SD/MMC found on device 0 
 reading uEnv.txt 
 1390 bytes read in 5 ms (271.5 KiB/s) 
 gpio: pin 55 (gpio 55) value is 1 
 Loaded environment from uEnv.txt 
 Importing environment from mmc ... 
 Checking if uenvcmd is set ... 
 gpio: pin 56 (gpio 56) value is 1 
 Running uenvcmd ... 
 reading zImage 
 ** Unable to read file zImage ** 
 reading initrd.img 
 ** Unable to read file initrd.img ** 
 reading /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb 
 ** Unable to read file /dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb ** 
 Bad Linux ARM zImage magic! 

 uenvcmd was not defined in uEnv.txt ... 
 gpio: pin 56 (gpio 56) value is 0 
 gpio: pin 55 (gpio 55) value is 0 
 gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 0 
 mmc1(part 0) is current device 
 gpio: pin 54 (gpio 54) value is 1 
 SD/MMC found on device 1 
 ** No partition table - mmc 1 ** 
 Checking if uenvcmd is set ... 
 gpio: pin 56 (gpio 56) value is 1 
 Running uenvcmd ... 
 ** No partition table - mmc 1 ** 
 ** No partition table - mmc 1 ** 
 ** No partition table - mmc 1 ** 
 Bad Linux ARM zImage magic! 

 uenvcmd was not defined in uEnv.txt ... 
 Booting from nand ... 

 no devices available 

 no devices available 
 Bad Linux ARM zImage magic! 
 U-Boot# 
  

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-27 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Mark A. Yoder mark.a.yo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Robert.  I'll watch for the update.

Just pushed out  tested locally:

http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2014-03-27

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-27 Thread Mark A. Yoder
It's working.  Thanks!

--Mark

On Thursday, March 27, 2014 4:18:20 PM UTC-4, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Mark A. Yoder 
 mark.a...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  Thanks Robert.  I'll watch for the update. 

 Just pushed out  tested locally: 

 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2014-03-27 

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[beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-26 Thread mbbackus
Sad to say that I had my wifi dongle working yesterday, but despite hours 
of effort today, I was unable to get it working.

On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:21:04 PM UTC-8, mbba...@gmail.com wrote:

 I really like the 2014-03-19 image. It solves most of the problems I was 
 having with Ubuntu and Angstrom. I am now able to connect wirelessly to WPA 
 secured networks using Adafruit's dongle while tethered via a USB cable! 
 This will make developing and debugging an autonomous robot that uses 
 computer vision infinitely easier.

 I do have a few ideas for making the image slightly better.

 First, any chance you can install xrdp? This would allow my students to 
 remote into the BeagleBone without having to access the Internet?

 Second, if I remember correctly it looks like the version designed to run 
 from the SD card lists wlan0 within Wicd, but the eMMC version does not. 
 IAny chance you can list wlan0 within Wicd for both versions?

 Third, I had to input the passphrase into Wicd, generate the PSK using 
 wpa_passphrase, and then add the PSK into Wicd. Not sure why. Maybe I'm 
 doing something wrong, but I suspect it's some sort of glitch with Wicd.


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[beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-25 Thread mbbackus
I really like the 2014-03-19 image. It solves most of the problems I was 
having with Ubuntu and Angstrom. I am now able to connect wirelessly to WPA 
secured networks using Adafruit's dongle while tethered via a USB cable! 
This will make developing and debugging an autonomous robot that uses 
computer vision infinitely easier.

I do have a few ideas for making the image slightly better.

First, any chance you can install xrdp? This would allow my students to 
remote into the BeagleBone without having to access the Internet?

Second, if I remember correctly it looks like the version designed to run 
from the SD card lists wlan0 within Wicd, but the eMMC version does not. 
IAny chance you can list wlan0 within Wicd for both versions?

Third, I had to input the passphrase into Wicd, generate the PSK using 
wpa_passphrase, and then add the PSK into Wicd. Not sure why. Maybe I'm 
doing something wrong, but I suspect it's some sort of glitch with Wicd.

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[beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-23 Thread Ramon Mendes
How can I make the microSD image to not copy the image to the eMMC of my 
Beaglebone Black?

That is, by default, when I insert the SD card with this Debian image, and 
then power the BBB, it will automatically start flashing the Debian image 
to the BBB internal disk (eMMC). I notice it because after some time the 4 
leds stay lit, meaning it has completed the process.
I don't want it to happen because I want to use Debian directly from the 
bootable SD card, and keep the eMMC intact.

(probably I just need to delete the script that flashes the image to the 
eMMC, but where is it?)


Em quarta-feira, 5 de março de 2014 19h51min19s UTC-3, Jason Kridner 
escreveu:

 The latest BeagleBone Debian images are now posted at: 
 http://beagleboard.org/latest-images/

 If you've upgraded the firmware on your BeagleBone or BeagleBone Black in 
 the past, the experience will be quite similar, but you might find the eMMC 
 flashing times a bit faster (~15 minutes rather than ~45 minutes) due to 
 less post-installation processing. Using the 2GB uSD card image also 
 flashes a bit faster and can be resized to whatever your uSD card size is 
 using some scripts under /opt/scripts/tools.

 Many, many thanks to Robert Nelson, Rob Rittman, Dave Anders, Cody Lacey, 
 the Cloud9 IDE team and so many others in getting us this far.

 Please take the time to give a detailed look over this image and report 
 any issues to the bug tracker on elinux.org:
 http://bugs.elinux.org/projects/debian-image-releases

 While plugged in over USB, you'll see the familiar BEAGLE_BONE drive with 
 START.htm to tell you how to get the drivers configured if you haven't 
 already done so:

 [image: Inline image 2]


 Clicking the link or visiting http://192.168.7.2, you'll see the familiar 
 on-board served documentation:

 [image: Inline image 1]

 I've introduced a few bugs to the documentation (
 http://github.com/beaglebone/bone101 and 
 http://beagleboard.github.io/bone101), so expect to find a lot of issues 
 there. Patches are welcome as are notes in the bug tracker to make sure I 
 don't miss dotting any i's or crossing any t's. This is your chance to try 
 to get some documentation into the system you'd like to see. I felt it was 
 pretty safe to save the documentation as an in-beta item because it 
 shouldn't impact functionality.

 One of the biggest new features you'll see is when you click on the Cloud9 
 IDE link:

 [image: Inline image 3]

 This is a pre-open-source-beta-only release of version 3 of their IDE. 
 Down at the bottom of the Cloud9 IDE you'll see a new terminal window that 
 runs a full 'tmux' session. You can open up a bunch of these and it makes 
 logging into the board and executing command-line operations *super* simple.

 Cloud9 IDE version 3 now includes support for Python and the Adafruit_BBIO 
 library is included in these Debian images. That means you can simply paste 
 in your Python code and hit the run button, without any additional 
 download. I checked this out myself by doing a quick LED blink using the 
 Adafruit tutorial (
 http://learn.adafruit.com/blinking-an-led-with-beaglebone-black/writing-a-program
 ):

 [image: Inline image 4]

 You should also note that the /var/lib/cloud9 directory now contains a git 
 clone of that bone101 repo (http://github.com/beagleboard/bone101), so 
 you can start using the Cloud9 IDE to edit the content live. What I 
 recommend is creating your own fork of the repo and sending me pull 
 requests of any changes you'd like to see.

 You can also edit C/C++ code in the Cloud9 IDE, but no 'builder' or 
 'runner' plug-ins are provided. You will, however, find the 
 Userspace-Arduino (http://elinux.org/Userspace_Arduino) code in 
 /opt/source/Userspace-Arduino. Here's a quick little exercise you can do to 
 blink LED0:

 root@beaglebone# cd 
 /opt/source/Userspace-Arduino/arduino-makefile/examples/Blink
 root@beaglebone# perl -i -pe 's/13/14/g' Blink.ino
 root@beaglebone# make
 root@beaglebone# ./build-userspace/Blink.elf

 For more advanced C/C++ developers, future releases should include 
 https://github.com/jackmitch/libsoc.

 Those familiar with Linux will also note that the init system is 
 'systemd', which has been helpful in providing reasonable boot times. If 
 you are looking for the journal, you can explore it using 
 'systemd-journalctl'.

 I use a Mac and despite the latest version of HoRNDIS fixing issues with 
 Internet Connection Sharing, getting on the WIFI at home makes getting my 
 BeagleBones on the network much easier, further making grabbing new 
 packages with 'sudo apt-get install' much simpler. Drivers and firmware for 
 many common USB WiFi dongles are included, so be sure to report any that 
 you find missing. These latest images include the drivers for the popular 
 UWN200 adapters provided by Logic Supply. To test it out myself, I 
 uncommented and edited the wlan0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces 
 (including replacing wlan0 with ra0), shutdown, 

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-20 Thread Robert Nelson
 Here you go:

 xinput_calibrator.log pastebin.com/EZ4uSu4W
 xinput.txt pastebin.com/ZBDXGkt3
 lsusb.txt pastebin.com/0UthnPqZ

Okay, quick update on this as i have the same K120 keyboard.  I'm
seeing this same issue on 3.8/3.13/3.14 so I just blacklisted this
device.

Just run:

cd /opt/scripts
git pull

to update the xinput script..

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-20 Thread Dennis Cote
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 8:49:22 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 Okay, quick update on this as i have the same K120 keyboard.  I'm 
 seeing this same issue on 3.8/3.13/3.14 so I just blacklisted this 
 device. 

 Just run: 

 cd /opt/scripts 
 git pull 

 to update the xinput script.. 


Robert,

I did this update and then undid the workaround (i.e. I uncommented the 
display-setup-script line in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf). 

Now I no longer get the calibration screen on startup and logout of LXDE, 
however I lose my mouse pointer when I logout. The mouse pointer works on 
reboot, but if I logout of LXDE I have no visible pointer on the login 
screen or in LXDE after I log back in. The mouse does work and I can see 
where it is because some items like the LXDE menu icons highlight when I 
hover the mouse over them, but there is no onscreen pointer visible. 
Clicking the mouse buttons work as expected when I can figure out where it 
is pointing.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-20 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:
 On Thursday, March 20, 2014 8:49:22 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 Okay, quick update on this as i have the same K120 keyboard.  I'm
 seeing this same issue on 3.8/3.13/3.14 so I just blacklisted this
 device.

 Just run:

 cd /opt/scripts
 git pull

 to update the xinput script..


 Robert,

 I did this update and then undid the workaround (i.e. I uncommented the
 display-setup-script line in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf).

 Now I no longer get the calibration screen on startup and logout of LXDE,
 however I lose my mouse pointer when I logout. The mouse pointer works on
 reboot, but if I logout of LXDE I have no visible pointer on the login
 screen or in LXDE after I log back in. The mouse does work and I can see
 where it is because some items like the LXDE menu icons highlight when I
 hover the mouse over them, but there is no onscreen pointer visible.
 Clicking the mouse buttons work as expected when I can figure out where it
 is pointing.

 Is there anything else I can do to help pinpoint the problem?

Previously we were making the mouse pointer viable by a custom xorg.conf.

However it works better if you add it via xset/xsetroot:

root@beaglebone:~# cat /home/debian/.xsessionrc
#!/bin/sh

xset -dpms
xset s off
xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr

and just remove the  [Option  SWCursor  true] line
from /etc/X11/xorg.conf

So for me, right now the mouse cursor works between logout/logins.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-20 Thread Dennis Cote
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 11:29:10 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 However it works better if you add it via xset/xsetroot: 

 root@beaglebone:~# cat /home/debian/.xsessionrc 
 #!/bin/sh 

 xset -dpms 
 xset s off 
 xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr 

 and just remove the  [Option  SWCursor  true] line 
 from /etc/X11/xorg.conf 


Robert,

My .xsessionrc file looks identical to yours, and I did not have SWCursor 
anywhere in my xorg.conf file, so there was nothing to remove.

My mouse pointer definitely becomes invisible when I logout.

Any other ideas?

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-20 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:
 On Thursday, March 20, 2014 11:29:10 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 However it works better if you add it via xset/xsetroot:

 root@beaglebone:~# cat /home/debian/.xsessionrc
 #!/bin/sh

 xset -dpms
 xset s off
 xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr

 and just remove the  [Option  SWCursor  true] line
 from /etc/X11/xorg.conf


 Robert,

 My .xsessionrc file looks identical to yours, and I did not have SWCursor
 anywhere in my xorg.conf file, so there was nothing to remove.

 My mouse pointer definitely becomes invisible when I logout.

okay, so when i switch back to v3.8, i see this now too.. Weird, as
v3.13.x it works.  Might just have to go back to the xorg.conf
workaround.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-20 Thread Dennis Cote
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 11:47:15 AM UTC-6, Dennis Cote wrote:

 My mouse pointer definitely becomes invisible when I logout.

 Any other ideas?


Robert,

I have done some more testing. I have discovered that I do have a mouse 
pointer on the login screen after the first logout after a reboot, and I 
have a mouse pointer when I log in again. If I log out again, I have no 
visible mouse pointer on the login screen, and no mouse pointer after I log 
back in. It remains the same on subsequent logout/logins until I reboot 
again. Then I can logout and back in one more time before I lose my mouse 
pointer.

Any ideas?

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-20 Thread Dennis Cote
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 11:57:11 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 Might just have to go back to the xorg.conf 
 workaround. 


Robert,

More test results. 

I googled and found many references to adding 'Option HWCursor off' to 
the device section of xorg.conf as a fix for the disappearing mouse cursor 
issue in Debian/Ubuntu/Mint etc. These all seemed to be for PC based 
systems thought. I tried it and it did not work. I lost my mouse cursor on 
every logout.

I added the line you suggested to remove earlier 'Option SWCursor true' 
to the device section of my xorg.conf. This appears to have fixed the 
problem. I can logout and back in many times in a row, and haven't lost my 
mouse cursor since.

HTH
Dennis Cote

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-20 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:
 On Thursday, March 20, 2014 11:57:11 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 Might just have to go back to the xorg.conf
 workaround.


 Robert,

 More test results.

 I googled and found many references to adding 'Option HWCursor off' to
 the device section of xorg.conf as a fix for the disappearing mouse cursor
 issue in Debian/Ubuntu/Mint etc. These all seemed to be for PC based systems
 thought. I tried it and it did not work. I lost my mouse cursor on every
 logout.

 I added the line you suggested to remove earlier 'Option SWCursor true'
 to the device section of my xorg.conf. This appears to have fixed the
 problem. I can logout and back in many times in a row, and haven't lost my
 mouse cursor since.

OH Fun! ;)

I've had reports that xorg.conf change was causing lockup's when
moving icons around, hence we changed it to the .xsessonrc workaround
in the last week.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-20 Thread Dennis Cote
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:23:24 PM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 OH Fun! ;) 

 I've had reports that xorg.conf change was causing lockup's when 
 moving icons around, hence we changed it to the .xsessonrc workaround 
 in the last week. 


Robert,

I have just noticed now that my BBB is no longer blanking the HDMI output 
after a period of inactivity. 

Prior to these changes the display would blank after some period of 
inactivity, and I would have to move my mouse to get it to start sending 
video again. It has been sitting unused for an hour or more now (there is 
an ssh session open), and it has not blanked the screen.  

I googled Debian screen blanking and discovered what I think your 
.xsessionrc commands are doing.

xset s off # don't activate screensaver
xset -dpms # disable DPMS (Energy Star) features.
xset s noblank # don't blank the video device

I suspect you have disabled the DPMS features that were shutting down the 
HDMI video output. 

I don't need a screen saver, but I would like the video to blank after a 
while. So I executed an xset +dpms command and then an xset q to check the 
current settings and verify that DPMS was enabled. With DPMS enabled I 
waited for 600 seconds (10 minutes), and my display blanked as I wanted.

I see that many people are searching for a way to disable screen blanking, 
so I think this is one of those things that should be added to your FAQ for 
simple ways to accomplish basic setup changes. I think the display should 
blank by default out of the box both for the energy savings (135,000 BBB 
boards could be preventing their monitors from going to low power mode) and 
to provide a similar experience to what one gets using a Mac or PC. The FAQ 
should explain how to change it, both to blank or not blank.

Is there any other reason you are disabling DPMS?

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread iustinian . input
Robert, thanks for your work. 

Is there a guide somewhere to build or a way to download a absolute minimal 
image. Something with only ssh, apt and full hardware initialization on it 
and nothing else. That would be a good base for couple of headless projects 
I am thinking about.

When I am talking about HW initialization I am only thinking about network 
and hwrng

Right now I am using this:

http://rcn-ee.net/deb/flasher/wheezy/BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.4-2014-02-16-2gb.img.xz

and I will continue to use it as it is. But if you plan to stop developing 
those images I need to start thinking about another way to get a headless 
emmc debian image working.

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:59:02 PM UTC, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Robert Nelson 
 robert...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Dennis Cote 
  den...@harding.cajavascript: 
 wrote: 
  On Thursday, March 6, 2014 8:58:32 AM UTC-7, Jason Kridner wrote: 
  
  If you have a BeagleBone Black and are able to try out this image, it 
  might be good to propose fixing any short-falls you see in what is 
 provided 
  on the image. 
  
  
  Every time I boot, or logout of LXDE, I get a touchscreen calibration 
  program that runs. It says 'Touchscreen calibration for Logitech USB 
  Keyboard' (I think it sometimes says Mouse, but I could be mistaken). I 
 am 
  running with a HDMI monitor and a USB keyboard and mouse connected to 
 an 
  external powered hub. I have no touchscreen to calibrate and this 
 wastes 
  about 15 seconds on each logout. What starts this program, and how do I 
  disable it? 

 PS: what model/etc is it? lsusb?  Encase I need to go pick one up. 

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 6:46 AM,  iustinian.in...@gmail.com wrote:
 Robert, thanks for your work.

 Is there a guide somewhere to build or a way to download a absolute minimal
 image. Something with only ssh, apt and full hardware initialization on it
 and nothing else. That would be a good base for couple of headless projects
 I am thinking about.

 When I am talking about HW initialization I am only thinking about network
 and hwrng

 Right now I am using this:

 http://rcn-ee.net/deb/flasher/wheezy/BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.4-2014-02-16-2gb.img.xz

 and I will continue to use it as it is. But if you plan to stop developing
 those images I need to start thinking about another way to get a headless
 emmc debian image working.

No worries, I have no plans to discontinue those monthly minimal
images. I have a lot of users using them. Plus they support older
boards like the beagle.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread Steve French of Volt Vision
Robert,
Just my $0.02 about *where* info should be stored:   I completely agree
about Dennis' Wild West comment.  When I first started with the BBB back
in Sep2013 all 5 of the various websites that Dennis referenced seemed to
contradict each other.  The official image was outdated and the most
recent images were hidden away and you almost needed a secret knock to
find them.  I completely understand that everything has been in a massive
state of flux, especially since all of the changes with the way Device Tree
was handled, etc, etc.  It seems to me, though, that out of the 5 websites
that Dennis referenced, perhaps 4 of them should say Things are in a state
of massive flux right now Instead of us updating 5 websites all the
time, Please check this *one* website for the most up-to-date info.  Then
on the *1* website which is continuously updated it could say:  Here is
the most recent stable official image and here is the most recent
development official image.  It is strange having 5 different websites to
have to check when you are a Newbie...and then Gerald says why didnt you
check 'the' website.

Thx!  I respect and appreciate all the work you do!!  These are challenging
times!
-frenchy

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On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:

 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:33:59 PM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 So then, here's a question for you. Where do you want to see those
 type of faq's listed?

 I can pretty much dump them anywhere, but the hard question is where...


 I don't know where they should be stored, but there should definitely be
 links on the beagleboard.org main page. It seems to me that if Debian is
 going to replace Angstrom, then a link to the Debian release images and
 FAQs should be put there. Eventually, the Angstrom info could be
 deprecated, or rather archived and its visibility reduced.

 It seems to me that there are currently too many places to go to get the
 various linux distributions and kernels, and none of them seem to be
 officially sanctioned as the standard release. This leads to unnecessary
 confusion for new users. Some info on beagleboard.org, some info at
 circuitco.com, some info at elinux.org, some info at armhf.com, etc., not
 to mention all the other stuff at ti.com.

 The official wiki at
 http://www.elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack#Software_Resourcesdoesn't 
 even mention this Debian releases (and it should if you want people
 to test it). The community wiki at
 http://elinux.org/BeagleBone_Community#Debian does list a Debian release,
 but it is a different, and incompatible, arm EABI version from this new
 armhf release.

 I appreciate all the hard work that people have done to prepare all this
 information, but it's a little like the wild west when you first start
 looking around.

 Dennis Cote

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Steve French of Volt Vision
voltvis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Robert,
 Just my $0.02 about *where* info should be stored:   I completely agree
 about Dennis' Wild West comment.  When I first started with the BBB back
 in Sep2013 all 5 of the various websites that Dennis referenced seemed to
 contradict each other.  The official image was outdated and the most
 recent images were hidden away and you almost needed a secret knock to
 find them.  I completely understand that everything has been in a massive
 state of flux, especially since all of the changes with the way Device Tree
 was handled, etc, etc.  It seems to me, though, that out of the 5 websites
 that Dennis referenced, perhaps 4 of them should say Things are in a state
 of massive flux right now Instead of us updating 5 websites all the
 time, Please check this *one* website for the most up-to-date info.  Then
 on the *1* website which is continuously updated it could say:  Here is
 the most recent stable official image and here is the most recent
 development official image.  It is strange having 5 different websites to
 have to check when you are a Newbie...and then Gerald says why didnt you
 check 'the' website.

 Thx!  I respect and appreciate all the work you do!!  These are challenging
 times!
 -frenchy

Hi Steve,

I've started an offical page at:

http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian

My plan is to hint at this page in both the serial/dvi terminal along
with an ssh message on the default image.

I'll try to get the more info links from here
http://beagleboard.org/latest-images

also linked to that page.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread Mike

On 03/14/2014 10:55 AM, Dennis Cote wrote:


You are missing my point. These commands are already in the default 
.profile created for the debian user. See the pastebin.com/kjDXbEpJ 
for a copy of mine. I added the TZ environment variable at the end.


ls ~ shows my bin directory exists
env | grep HOME shows the HOME variable as /home/debian
env | grep PATH shows the PATH as 
/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games


The .profile should be adding /home/debian/bin to the path, but it is 
not. It is also not adding the TZ variable to the environment.


Is this shell running within X?  If so .profile isn't sourced as it's 
not run as login shell.  I don't quite follow why you want to set the TZ 
variable from the user environment either.  It's all handled at a system 
level by default.


No need to set the variable then export it either, just do it all in one go.

export TZ=Whatever

Also less typing to just echo variables

echo $HOME $PATH

Really no need for env and grep.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread Dennis Cote
On Friday, March 14, 2014 8:54:08 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 I've started an offical page at: 

 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian 


Hi Robert,

I'm sorry to nitpick, but this new official page is wrong right out of 
the gate. 

It says it is about running an ARM EABI Debian distribution. The Debian 
page at https://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort says this is different than the 
newer armhf ABI which I believe is the basis for your images. Getting this 
kind of basic stuff correct is important.

Also, the description of how to set the timezone to your local timezone so 
that the clock displays local wall clock time is terse to point of extreme. 
It is not at all clear what the listed commands do, or why you might want 
to use them.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:
 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:51:53 PM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 Can you pastebin this file for me:

 /var/log/xinput_calibrator.pointercal.log

 and the output of xinput you will have to run it from x11, no
 serial/ssh..


 Here you go:

 xinput_calibrator.log pastebin.com/EZ4uSu4W
 xinput.txt pastebin.com/ZBDXGkt3
 lsusb.txt pastebin.com/0UthnPqZ


I don't see anything obvious, so I ordered it up..

 Yeah,

 export PATH=$PATH:~/bin

 in ~/.profile is all you should need..


 You are missing my point. These commands are already in the default .profile
 created for the debian user. See the pastebin.com/kjDXbEpJ for a copy of
 mine. I added the TZ environment variable at the end.

 ls ~ shows my bin directory exists
 env | grep HOME shows the HOME variable as /home/debian
 env | grep PATH shows the PATH as
 /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games

 The .profile should be adding /home/debian/bin to the path, but it is not.

It works here:

debian@beaglebone:~/bin$ nano simple.c
debian@beaglebone:~/bin$ gcc -Wall simple.c -o simple
debian@beaglebone:~/bin$ cd ..
debian@beaglebone:~$ which simple
/home/debian/bin/simple
debian@beaglebone:~$ simple
Simple Program

One thing i can do is just to add the directory by default in the image.

debian@beaglebone:~$ echo $PATH
/home/debian/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games

 It is also not adding the TZ variable to the environment.

Just use:

dpkg-reconfigure tzdata

or:

echo Europe/Zurich  /etc/timezone
dpkg-reconfigure -f noninteractive tzdata


 BTW, we could probably remove the two games directories from the default
 PATH as well. I don't think many users will be using BBB for gaming.

The default /etc/profile sets the gaming directories up by default. So
i opted to just leave them.

/usr/local/games:/usr/games

The only thing i've done there, is to tweak the path to also include
the root sbin directories too for the normal user..

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:
 On Friday, March 14, 2014 8:54:08 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 I've started an offical page at:

 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian


 Hi Robert,

 I'm sorry to nitpick, but this new official page is wrong right out of the
 gate.

No problem, i just copied it from my other Debian page. ;)


 It says it is about running an ARM EABI Debian distribution. The Debian
 page at https://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort says this is different than the
 newer armhf ABI which I believe is the basis for your images. Getting this
 kind of basic stuff correct is important.

Well, technically armhf is still EABI, but over armel it has
hard floating point enabled by default.

 Also, the description of how to set the timezone to your local timezone so
 that the clock displays local wall clock time is terse to point of extreme.
 It is not at all clear what the listed commands do, or why you might want to
 use them.

I'll fix those up, I'm just merging/pushing all my notes/fixes/etc
from yesterday right now. ;)

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread Dennis Cote
On Friday, March 14, 2014 9:21:31 AM UTC-6, Mike Bell wrote:

 Is this shell running within X?  If so .profile isn't sourced as it's 
 not run as login shell.  


Ah ha... there is the nugget of truth I was looking for. Yes, this is the 
LXTerminal under LXDE. 

I checked and the .profile *is* executed for my serial console.

So how does one get the same path for the LXTerminal as you get using a 
serial terminal? Also, is an ssh terminal a login shell, or is like the X 
terminal?
 

 I don't quite follow why you want to set the TZ 
 variable from the user environment either.  It's all handled at a system 
 level by default. 

No need to set the variable then export it either, just do it all in one 
 go. 

 export TZ=Whatever 


I know that now, but yesterday when I was trying to get the timezone set 
correctly I ran the tzselect command (which seemed logical). This is the 
output of that command:

The following information has been given:

Canada
Mountain Time - Alberta, east British Columbia  west Saskatchewan

Therefore TZ='America/Edmonton' will be used.
Local time is now:Fri Mar 14 09:31:43 MDT 2014.
Universal Time is now:Fri Mar 14 15:31:43 UTC 2014.
Is the above information OK?
1) Yes
2) No
#? 1

You can make this change permanent for yourself by appending the line
TZ='America/Edmonton'; export TZ
to the file '.profile' in your home directory; then log out and log in 
again.

Here is that TZ value again, this time on standard output so that you
can use the /usr/bin/tzselect command in shell scripts:
America/Edmonton

So I did as it suggested. I added this line to my .profile and logged out 
and in. This again seemed logical. I left it in as a simple test of whether 
or not my .profile was executed. I will remove it now.
 


 Also less typing to just echo variables 

 echo $HOME $PATH 

 Really no need for env and grep. 


Yes, thanks for the tip. I started by using env to dump my entire 
environment, and then just progressed to using grep to filter the dump, 
while looking into why the .profile wasn't being executed.  

Thanks again for the info.

Dennis Cote

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:
 On Friday, March 14, 2014 9:21:31 AM UTC-6, Mike Bell wrote:

 Is this shell running within X?  If so .profile isn't sourced as it's
 not run as login shell.


 Ah ha... there is the nugget of truth I was looking for. Yes, this is the
 LXTerminal under LXDE.

 I checked and the .profile *is* executed for my serial console.

 So how does one get the same path for the LXTerminal as you get using a
 serial terminal? Also, is an ssh terminal a login shell, or is like the X
 terminal?

Ahh, I've been doing it over serial/ssh..

For lxterminal (which doesn't reference .profile according to lots of
bug reports). It works if i add:

# set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
if [ -d $HOME/bin ] ; then
PATH=$HOME/bin:$PATH
fi

into .bashrc

If there is no objections i'll probably set that up by default..

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:
 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:51:53 PM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 Can you pastebin this file for me:

 /var/log/xinput_calibrator.pointercal.log

 and the output of xinput you will have to run it from x11, no
 serial/ssh..


 Here you go:

 xinput_calibrator.log pastebin.com/EZ4uSu4W
 xinput.txt pastebin.com/ZBDXGkt3
 lsusb.txt pastebin.com/0UthnPqZ

btw, as a workaround till i can debug it with the same hardware, just run:

sudo sed -i -e 's:display-setup-script=:#display-setup-script:g'
/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf

And it'll stop displaying the calibrator on bootup.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread Dennis Cote
On Friday, March 14, 2014 9:56:45 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 It works if i add: 

 # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists 
 if [ -d $HOME/bin ] ; then 
 PATH=$HOME/bin:$PATH 
 fi 

 into .bashrc 

 If there is no objections i'll probably set that up by default.. 


Will this add the user's bin directory to the path twice when using a 
serial console since .bashrc is sourced from the existing .profile?

Dennis Cote 

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:
 On Friday, March 14, 2014 9:56:45 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 It works if i add:

 # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
 if [ -d $HOME/bin ] ; then
 PATH=$HOME/bin:$PATH
 fi

 into .bashrc

 If there is no objections i'll probably set that up by default..


 Will this add the user's bin directory to the path twice when using a serial
 console since .bashrc is sourced from the existing .profile?

Yeap it does..

debian@beaglebone:~$ echo $PATH
/home/debian/bin:/home/debian/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games

What gets sourced first? i can patch it to check..

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread Dennis Cote
On Friday, March 14, 2014 11:53:15 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 Yeap it does.. 

 debian@beaglebone:~$ echo $PATH 
 /home/debian/bin:/home/debian/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
  


 What gets sourced first? i can patch it to check.. 


I moved that section from my .profile to .bashrc since .profile will source 
.bashrc if it exists. So a login shell will source .profile, which will 
source .bashrc and add the path. A non login shell will source .bashrc 
directly and add the path. This seems to work for me.

I'm not sure what happens for script that use #!/bin/sh since that runs 
dash instead of bash. The dash docs say it sources .profile on login shells 
so that should be OK, but for non login shells it says it looks in the ENV 
environment variable for the name of a file to execute. There is no such 
variable defined currently so it does nothing. 

Perhaps these commands should be put in a .shinit file and then set 
ENV=$HOME/.shint in the .profile file to take card of setting it for login 
shells, and have the .bashrc source this .shinit file for non login shells.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread Dennis Cote
On Friday, March 14, 2014 10:25:42 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 btw, as a workaround till i can debug it with the same hardware, just run: 

 sudo sed -i -e 's:display-setup-script=:#display-setup-script:g' 
 /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf 

 And it'll stop displaying the calibrator on bootup. 


FYI, commenting out the display-setup-script line does not take effect 
until after you reboot.

I no longer have the calibration screen on startup or logout.

Thanks.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread Robert Nelson
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:
 On Friday, March 14, 2014 9:56:45 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 It works if i add:

 # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
 if [ -d $HOME/bin ] ; then
 PATH=$HOME/bin:$PATH
 fi

 into .bashrc

 If there is no objections i'll probably set that up by default..


 Will this add the user's bin directory to the path twice when using a serial
 console since .bashrc is sourced from the existing .profile?

 Yeap it does..

 debian@beaglebone:~$ echo $PATH
 /home/debian/bin:/home/debian/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games

 What gets sourced first? i can patch it to check..

Here is a better fix:

sudo sed -i -e 's:Exec=lxterminal:Exec=lxterminal -l -e bash:g'
/usr/share/applications/lxterminal.desktop

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread William Hermans
Robert, your timezone is fine for me. I am actually AZ time myself, but
really simple to change via dpkg-reconfigure tzdata.

Also, as for how to change some default stuff, perhaps have a web page (
html file, or maybe even a node.js thing to make it more dynamic ? )

Dennis, just so you know, you should be able to google debian + whatever
keyword you need to know something about to find an answer. We're talking
basic Linux / Debian stuff here. For example.

google - howto change debian timezone, and you will very likely find what
i asked about last night dpkg-reconfigure tzdata.

Anyway, dont feel as though I am putting you down by saying  this. quite
the contrary actually. As I have been using Debian since  the 90's and have
to google many things. Especially now considering I really want to look
into using systemmd.


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca
 wrote:
  On Friday, March 14, 2014 9:56:45 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:
 
  It works if i add:
 
  # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
  if [ -d $HOME/bin ] ; then
  PATH=$HOME/bin:$PATH
  fi
 
  into .bashrc
 
  If there is no objections i'll probably set that up by default..
 
 
  Will this add the user's bin directory to the path twice when using a
 serial
  console since .bashrc is sourced from the existing .profile?
 
  Yeap it does..
 
  debian@beaglebone:~$ echo $PATH
 
 /home/debian/bin:/home/debian/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
 
  What gets sourced first? i can patch it to check..

 Here is a better fix:

 sudo sed -i -e 's:Exec=lxterminal:Exec=lxterminal -l -e bash:g'
 /usr/share/applications/lxterminal.desktop

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread William Hermans
Sorry, I felt i was not clear in my last post . . .

*Also, as for how to change some default stuff, perhaps have a web page (
html file, or maybe even a node.js thing to make it more dynamic ? )*

What I mean by the above, is have an information web page on how to do
various things, like how to set time zone etc. Perhaps as part of the
getting started page thats already on the BBB.

Even though I think Debian is one of the better distro's out there because
of the fact you can simply google the answer to your questions( just one
aspect actually ) I feel that having a web page linked to from the getting
started page on how to change all teh default basic stuff would be super
helpful for new users.


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 1:56 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Robert, your timezone is fine for me. I am actually AZ time myself, but
 really simple to change via dpkg-reconfigure tzdata.

 Also, as for how to change some default stuff, perhaps have a web page (
 html file, or maybe even a node.js thing to make it more dynamic ? )

 Dennis, just so you know, you should be able to google debian + whatever
 keyword you need to know something about to find an answer. We're talking
 basic Linux / Debian stuff here. For example.

 google - howto change debian timezone, and you will very likely find what
 i asked about last night dpkg-reconfigure tzdata.

 Anyway, dont feel as though I am putting you down by saying  this. quite
 the contrary actually. As I have been using Debian since  the 90's and have
 to google many things. Especially now considering I really want to look
 into using systemmd.


 On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca
 wrote:
  On Friday, March 14, 2014 9:56:45 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:
 
  It works if i add:
 
  # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
  if [ -d $HOME/bin ] ; then
  PATH=$HOME/bin:$PATH
  fi
 
  into .bashrc
 
  If there is no objections i'll probably set that up by default..
 
 
  Will this add the user's bin directory to the path twice when using a
 serial
  console since .bashrc is sourced from the existing .profile?
 
  Yeap it does..
 
  debian@beaglebone:~$ echo $PATH
 
 /home/debian/bin:/home/debian/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
 
  What gets sourced first? i can patch it to check..

 Here is a better fix:

 sudo sed -i -e 's:Exec=lxterminal:Exec=lxterminal -l -e bash:g'
 /usr/share/applications/lxterminal.desktop

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread Dennis Cote
On Friday, March 14, 2014 2:08:00 PM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 Here is a better fix: 

 sudo sed -i -e 's:Exec=lxterminal:Exec=lxterminal -l -e bash:g' 
 /usr/share/applications/lxterminal.desktop 


As far as I can tell by using ps - p $$, lxterminal is already running 
bash, so adding -e bash shouldn't change anything. Adding the -l make it a 
login shell, so it sources /etc/profile and then .profile, which sources 
.bashrc if it exists. 

Without this change lxterminal runs bash as a non login shell so it sources 
/etc/bash.bashrc and then .bashrc instead. The /etc/bash.bashrc file setups 
the command prompt.

What I don't understand is why an lxterminal command with no options starts 
a bash shell, but an lxterminal -l command starts a /bin/sh shell which is 
actually a dash shell. You end up with no command prompt because it doesn't 
run /etc/bash.bashrc. There are probably other differences. This is why you 
added the -e bash option. 

Anyway this does seem like a better fix, though anything that runs /bin/sh 
will still have a different PATH without the user bin directory.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread William Hermans
dpkg-reconfigure dash - select no.


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:

 On Friday, March 14, 2014 2:08:00 PM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 Here is a better fix:

 sudo sed -i -e 's:Exec=lxterminal:Exec=lxterminal -l -e bash:g'
 /usr/share/applications/lxterminal.desktop


 As far as I can tell by using ps - p $$, lxterminal is already running
 bash, so adding -e bash shouldn't change anything. Adding the -l make it a
 login shell, so it sources /etc/profile and then .profile, which sources
 .bashrc if it exists.

 Without this change lxterminal runs bash as a non login shell so it
 sources /etc/bash.bashrc and then .bashrc instead. The /etc/bash.bashrc
 file setups the command prompt.

 What I don't understand is why an lxterminal command with no options
 starts a bash shell, but an lxterminal -l command starts a /bin/sh shell
 which is actually a dash shell. You end up with no command prompt because
 it doesn't run /etc/bash.bashrc. There are probably other differences. This
 is why you added the -e bash option.

 Anyway this does seem like a better fix, though anything that runs /bin/sh
 will still have a different PATH without the user bin directory.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread Dennis Cote
On Friday, March 14, 2014 2:56:50 PM UTC-6, William Hermans wrote:

 Dennis, just so you know, you should be able to google debian + whatever 
 keyword you need to know something about to find an answer. We're talking 
 basic Linux / Debian stuff here. For example.

 google - howto change debian timezone, and you will very likely find what 
 i asked about last night dpkg-reconfigure tzdata.


I did that and ended up 
at 
http://www.debian-administration.org/article/213/Changing_the_timezone_of_your_Debian_system
 
which suggested the tzselect command (which in turn suggested adding a TZ 
environment variable, which in turn led to me seeing that my .profile 
wasn't being executed, etc). 

I also saw the page at https://wiki.debian.org/TimeZoneChanges but the text 
at the top of that page and the titles of the other sections made it seem 
more about checking and adapting the system to changes in the dates of 
daylight saving etc. I just wanted to set my timezone. The section where 
dpkg-reconfigure tzdata is mentioned has the title Check Configured 
Timezone, and the text of the command itself didn't lead me to conclude it 
would change my timezone. Had I read in more detail I would have seem what 
it did, but I was skimming for something that said this is how to change 
your timezone as on the page above. 
 

 Anyway, dont feel as though I am putting you down by saying  this. quite 
 the contrary actually. 


No problem, no offence taken. I just want to point out that not all google 
searches (or searchers) lead to the best answer.
 
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-14 Thread William Hermans
I have very seldom run into a situation where google did not give me a
correct answer. Sometimes the first hit is not always right / succinct
either. It takes experience googling to know what to look for, and this
does not always work either.

Anyway, answers linked on debian.org, and superuser are typically succinct
and correct. Also, as I had not reconfigured time zone, and dash before, or
in a while i did google searches on these myself not but a few months ago.

Regardless, this is all part of the learning process for everyone.


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:

 On Friday, March 14, 2014 2:56:50 PM UTC-6, William Hermans wrote:

 Dennis, just so you know, you should be able to google debian +
 whatever keyword you need to know something about to find an answer. We're
 talking basic Linux / Debian stuff here. For example.

 google - howto change debian timezone, and you will very likely find
 what i asked about last night dpkg-reconfigure tzdata.


 I did that and ended up at
 http://www.debian-administration.org/article/213/Changing_the_timezone_of_your_Debian_systemwhich
  suggested the tzselect command (which in turn suggested adding a TZ
 environment variable, which in turn led to me seeing that my .profile
 wasn't being executed, etc).

 I also saw the page at https://wiki.debian.org/TimeZoneChanges but the
 text at the top of that page and the titles of the other sections made it
 seem more about checking and adapting the system to changes in the dates of
 daylight saving etc. I just wanted to set my timezone. The section where
 dpkg-reconfigure tzdata is mentioned has the title Check Configured
 Timezone, and the text of the command itself didn't lead me to conclude it
 would change my timezone. Had I read in more detail I would have seem what
 it did, but I was skimming for something that said this is how to change
 your timezone as on the page above.


 Anyway, dont feel as though I am putting you down by saying  this. quite
 the contrary actually.


 No problem, no offence taken. I just want to point out that not all google
 searches (or searchers) lead to the best answer.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread Dennis Cote
On Wednesday, March 12, 2014 4:18:02 PM UTC-6, Dennis Cote wrote:

 Since you seem t think the problem is SD card specific, I will try again 
 with a different card.


Using a different 8GB SD card my BBB boots this new image as expected. 
Hopefully the bootlog from the problem card will help identify the issue. 

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[beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread Dennis Cote


 Please take the time to give a detailed look over this image and report 
 any issues to the bug tracker on elinux.org:
 http://bugs.elinux.org/projects/debian-image-releases


On booting this new image I noticed a few issues immediately, but I'm not 
sure if one is by design. The ethernet interface is not setup in this 
image. Running ifconfig shows no IP address for the ethernet port.  

Looking at /etc/network/interfaces I see that the eth0 section is commented 
out.

I tried adding the following to /etc/network/interfaces but I still have no 
IP address assigned (as if dhcp wasn't aquirring an address). Commenting 
out the allow-hotplug line makes no difference.

auto eth0
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

Shouldn't the ethernet interface be setup by default? How does one setup 
dhcp on Debian if not through the interfaces file?

Also, how is one supposed to use the Root Terminal in the LXDE environment? 
It won't accept the admin password for the debian user, and I don't know if 
there is a different root password?

Thanks.
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:
 Please take the time to give a detailed look over this image and report
 any issues to the bug tracker on elinux.org:
 http://bugs.elinux.org/projects/debian-image-releases


 On booting this new image I noticed a few issues immediately, but I'm not
 sure if one is by design. The ethernet interface is not setup in this image.
 Running ifconfig shows no IP address for the ethernet port.

 Looking at /etc/network/interfaces I see that the eth0 section is commented
 out.

 I tried adding the following to /etc/network/interfaces but I still have no
 IP address assigned (as if dhcp wasn't aquirring an address). Commenting out
 the allow-hotplug line makes no difference.

 auto eth0
 allow-hotplug eth0
 iface eth0 inet dhcp

 Shouldn't the ethernet interface be setup by default? How does one setup
 dhcp on Debian if not through the interfaces file?

The wicd deamon should setup eth0 within 30 seconds on 2nd boot.
(first boot there is a slight delay as the ssh key's are generated).

If you uncomment out the eth0 interface in /etc/network/interfaces
boot time falls from 15seconds to 35ish..

 Also, how is one supposed to use the Root Terminal in the LXDE environment?
 It won't accept the admin password for the debian user, and I don't know if
 there is a different root password?

Nice catch, i need to remove that application from the menu. It was
requested to blank out the root password for ease of use.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread Dennis Cote
On Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:56:05 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 The wicd deamon should setup eth0 within 30 seconds on 2nd boot. 
 (first boot there is a slight delay as the ssh key's are generated). 


I had rebooted many times. I hadn't paid any attention to the wicd program 
since it seemed to be for WIFI which I am not using. 

I had to open the preferences and check the option to always show wired 
interfaces (I also checked always switch to wired connection when 
available) before I saw the eth0 connection. I then clicked the connect 
button and waited until it finished. It still didn't connect, but after I 
rebooted again, it did connect using dhcp. Since then it has been 
connecting on each boot.
 

 If you uncomment out the eth0 interface in /etc/network/interfaces 
 boot time falls from 15seconds to 35ish.. 


I'm not sure what you mean by this. unccomment out is ambiguous. Did you 
mean uncomment, or did you mean comment out.

Is it faster to boot with the eth0 defined in /etc/network/interfaces, or 
is it faster with the eth0 section commented out? Why? Is it redundant to 
define eth0 here, and then have wicd also connect eth0; or does having 
defined in the interafces file cause wicd to skip its redundant setup later?
 
On an unrelated issue, how do you setup the timezone for the time display 
on the LXDE desktop? I have set /etc/timezone. I have also used tzselect 
and added the TZ environment variable to my .profile as suggested in the 
output of tzselect. It does not appear that my .profile file is being 
executed though. I have a user bin directory in my /home/debian directory, 
and it is not being added to the path as it seems it should be by reading 
the .profile file. I checked and I don't have a .bash_profile or 
.bash_login file which would prevent .profile from executing. Any ideas?

Dennis Cote


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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:
 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:56:05 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 The wicd deamon should setup eth0 within 30 seconds on 2nd boot.
 (first boot there is a slight delay as the ssh key's are generated).


 I had rebooted many times. I hadn't paid any attention to the wicd program
 since it seemed to be for WIFI which I am not using.

 I had to open the preferences and check the option to always show wired
 interfaces (I also checked always switch to wired connection when available)
 before I saw the eth0 connection. I then clicked the connect button and
 waited until it finished. It still didn't connect, but after I rebooted
 again, it did connect using dhcp. Since then it has been connecting on each
 boot.


 If you uncomment out the eth0 interface in /etc/network/interfaces
 boot time falls from 15seconds to 35ish..


 I'm not sure what you mean by this. unccomment out is ambiguous. Did you
 mean uncomment, or did you mean comment out.

The first.

 Is it faster to boot with the eth0 defined in /etc/network/interfaces, or is
 it faster with the eth0 section commented out? Why? Is it redundant to
 define eth0 here, and then have wicd also connect eth0; or does having
 defined in the interafces file cause wicd to skip its redundant setup later?

When, eth0 is defined in /etc/network/interfaces, the login prompt
(serial/video) can be delayed for up to 2 minutes as the system
attempts to get an ip. If a cable is NOT connected it will wait the
full 2 minutes.

So by allowing the wicd/systemd deamon to take care of it, we get the
login prompt must faster


 On an unrelated issue, how do you setup the timezone for the time display on
 the LXDE desktop? I have set /etc/timezone. I have also used tzselect and
 added the TZ environment variable to my .profile as suggested in the output
 of tzselect. It does not appear that my .profile file is being executed
 though. I have a user bin directory in my /home/debian directory, and it is
 not being added to the path as it seems it should be by reading the .profile
 file. I checked and I don't have a .bash_profile or .bash_login file which
 would prevent .profile from executing. Any ideas?


root@beaglebone:/# rm /etc/localtime
root@beaglebone:/# ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Central /etc/localtime
root@beaglebone:/# date
Thu Mar 13 12:13:06 CDT 2014

Give lxde a minute or two to update..

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread William Hermans
*dpkg-reconfigure tzdata*  --- Doesnt work ?


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:
  On Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:56:05 AM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:
 
  The wicd deamon should setup eth0 within 30 seconds on 2nd boot.
  (first boot there is a slight delay as the ssh key's are generated).
 
 
  I had rebooted many times. I hadn't paid any attention to the wicd
 program
  since it seemed to be for WIFI which I am not using.
 
  I had to open the preferences and check the option to always show wired
  interfaces (I also checked always switch to wired connection when
 available)
  before I saw the eth0 connection. I then clicked the connect button and
  waited until it finished. It still didn't connect, but after I rebooted
  again, it did connect using dhcp. Since then it has been connecting on
 each
  boot.
 
 
  If you uncomment out the eth0 interface in /etc/network/interfaces
  boot time falls from 15seconds to 35ish..
 
 
  I'm not sure what you mean by this. unccomment out is ambiguous. Did
 you
  mean uncomment, or did you mean comment out.

 The first.

  Is it faster to boot with the eth0 defined in /etc/network/interfaces,
 or is
  it faster with the eth0 section commented out? Why? Is it redundant to
  define eth0 here, and then have wicd also connect eth0; or does having
  defined in the interafces file cause wicd to skip its redundant setup
 later?

 When, eth0 is defined in /etc/network/interfaces, the login prompt
 (serial/video) can be delayed for up to 2 minutes as the system
 attempts to get an ip. If a cable is NOT connected it will wait the
 full 2 minutes.

 So by allowing the wicd/systemd deamon to take care of it, we get the
 login prompt must faster

 
  On an unrelated issue, how do you setup the timezone for the time
 display on
  the LXDE desktop? I have set /etc/timezone. I have also used tzselect and
  added the TZ environment variable to my .profile as suggested in the
 output
  of tzselect. It does not appear that my .profile file is being executed
  though. I have a user bin directory in my /home/debian directory, and it
 is
  not being added to the path as it seems it should be by reading the
 .profile
  file. I checked and I don't have a .bash_profile or .bash_login file
 which
  would prevent .profile from executing. Any ideas?


 root@beaglebone:/# rm /etc/localtime
 root@beaglebone:/# ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Central /etc/localtime
 root@beaglebone:/# date
 Thu Mar 13 12:13:06 CDT 2014

 Give lxde a minute or two to update..

 Regards,

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:04 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:
 dpkg-reconfigure tzdata  --- Doesnt work ?

Yeap, that works too..

Which brings up a fun question.  What default timezone do you guys
want? Or is utc generic enough?  My only vote is US/Central as that
is where i'm located..

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread Hajo Dezelski
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Or is utc generic enough?


 It is utc generic ! ;-)

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Hajo Dezelski dl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Or is utc generic enough?


  It is utc generic ! ;-)

I know! ;) I was having fun playing with that sentence.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread Mike

On 03/13/2014 02:49 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:04 PM, William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote:

dpkg-reconfigure tzdata  --- Doesnt work ?

Yeap, that works too..

Which brings up a fun question.  What default timezone do you guys
want? Or is utc generic enough?  My only vote is US/Central as that
is where i'm located..

Regards,

I'd rather see a system come up UTC rather than some other TZ not 
specific to me.  I don't have a problem changing it if I have too 
though.  UTC would seem to make the most sense.


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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread Dennis Cote
On Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:49:52 PM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 Which brings up a fun question.  What default timezone do you guys 
 want? Or is utc generic enough?  


I think UTC would be best, but there should be clear instructions for how 
to change it. 

Most users (like me) are not Linux experts and don't know how to do many of 
these basic things. I though /etc/timezone seemed like the perfect place to 
make this change, but it turns out that was wrong. Google led me to 
tzselect which also looked promising, but again it was wrong. 

Dennis Cote

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:
 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:49:52 PM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 Which brings up a fun question.  What default timezone do you guys
 want? Or is utc generic enough?


 I think UTC would be best, but there should be clear instructions for how to
 change it.

 Most users (like me) are not Linux experts and don't know how to do many of
 these basic things. I though /etc/timezone seemed like the perfect place to
 make this change, but it turns out that was wrong. Google led me to tzselect
 which also looked promising, but again it was wrong.

So then, here's a question for you. Where do you want to see those
type of faq's listed?

I can pretty much dump them anywhere, but the hard question is where...

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread Bill Traynor
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:
 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:49:52 PM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 Which brings up a fun question.  What default timezone do you guys
 want? Or is utc generic enough?


 I think UTC would be best, but there should be clear instructions for how to
 change it.

 Most users (like me) are not Linux experts and don't know how to do many of
 these basic things. I though /etc/timezone seemed like the perfect place to
 make this change, but it turns out that was wrong. Google led me to tzselect
 which also looked promising, but again it was wrong.

 So then, here's a question for you. Where do you want to see those
 type of faq's listed?

 I can pretty much dump them anywhere, but the hard question is where...

I thought you were posting all of your stuff to elinux.org?



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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Bill Traynor btray...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:
 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:49:52 PM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 Which brings up a fun question.  What default timezone do you guys
 want? Or is utc generic enough?


 I think UTC would be best, but there should be clear instructions for how to
 change it.

 Most users (like me) are not Linux experts and don't know how to do many of
 these basic things. I though /etc/timezone seemed like the perfect place to
 make this change, but it turns out that was wrong. Google led me to tzselect
 which also looked promising, but again it was wrong.

 So then, here's a question for you. Where do you want to see those
 type of faq's listed?

 I can pretty much dump them anywhere, but the hard question is where...

 I thought you were posting all of your stuff to elinux.org?

Oh I do. ;)  I'm just hoping to get a fresh perspective and see where
a new user expects it to be today. (As we can never go back to being
new..)

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Oh, I see,

It was meant Underwater Technology Conference where you will be
invited. More generic is not possible.

I hope you don't mind:
http://hajos-kontrapunkte.blogspot.de/2014/03/wspr-bone-linux-adentures-in-beaglebone.html

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 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Or is utc generic enough?


  It is utc generic ! ;-)

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread Alexander Holler

Am 13.03.2014 21:33, schrieb Robert Nelson:

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote:

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:49:52 PM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:


Which brings up a fun question.  What default timezone do you guys
want? Or is utc generic enough?



I think UTC would be best, but there should be clear instructions for how to
change it.

Most users (like me) are not Linux experts and don't know how to do many of
these basic things. I though /etc/timezone seemed like the perfect place to
make this change, but it turns out that was wrong. Google led me to tzselect
which also looked promising, but again it was wrong.


So then, here's a question for you. Where do you want to see those
type of faq's listed?

I can pretty much dump them anywhere, but the hard question is where...


motd or the banner for ssh, together with an instruction to use rm to 
get rid of the message.


Listing those basic steps there would get rid of thousands question from 
people using broken, old and/or outdated instructions belonging to some 
broken/old and/or outdated images.


Regards,

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