[Blind-Computing] alternative lists for you all, was: RE: Modification to the guidelines

2013-05-21 Thread inthaneelf
hello folks,

I think the shutdown stinks and have told the owners so, but they have the
controls so off we go!

I am posting some alternatives so folks will still have somewhere to ask
such questions after the three do there dead:
1. for windows computer questions you can go to the blind windows list:
post to list: blindwind...@yahoogroups.com 
subscribe: blindwindows-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
unsubscribe: blindwindows-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com
notifications to group: ygroupsnotificati...@yahoogroups.com
2. a general tech info group for those things that do not relate to windows
platform (I.E. android tablets ) can join/talk to:
Website Address: http://www.blind-geek-zone.net
Blog Address: http://www.blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com
audio podcasts at: http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/audio.htm
Group Email Addresses:

Post message: 
blindgeekz...@yahoogroups.com  

Subscribe: 
blindgeekzone-subscr...@yahoogroups.com  

Unsubscribe: 
blindgeekzone-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com  

List owner: 
blindgeekzone-ow...@yahoogroups.com

and for a general discussion of accessibility at large there is the list on
which I serve, Blind Access Help which covers many topics including info on
iPhones and most of the computer or pad industry
to post. blindaccessh...@yahoogroups.com ...
To subscribe, blindaccesshelp-subscr...@yahoogroups.com ...
To Unsubscribe, blindaccesshelp-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com ...
Go nomail, blindaccesshelp-nom...@yahoogroups.com ...
Normal emails, blindaccesshelp-nor...@yahoogroups.com ...
Email the moderators, blindaccesshelp-ow...@yahoogroups.com ...
Digest Mode, blindaccesshelp-dig...@yahoogroups.com ...


and although I don't have most of the items that were available through the
list and it's related website, I have info and help files, contacts and
other information that may be of use to you all and am willing to expand my
site to fit the needs of the VI community as well as anyone else that is
willing to talk to me:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

and you can ask me about things you wish for or need at:
inthane...@roadrunner.com

wish this wasn't happening, but here's what I can do to try and help.

inthaneelf 
. Moderator, Blind Access Help:
blindaccesshelp-ow...@yahoogroups.com
. can't find it on the lists your on, or can't find the list to find it
on? or its totally off topic for all your lists? ask me off list and I'll
try to find you a list, or an answer, depending on what it is!:
inthane...@roadrunner.com
. proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag
information, gathered groups of links, and hard to find items for blind
computer users; specialty links for Programmers and script writers!
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
. Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises

I hope humans never develop telepathy, because one look into my mind, would
have them lost forever!
-Inthane
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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Moderator
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:40 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Modification to the guidelines

Hi Pete,
Apparently you missed the more recent post from Dave yesterday.

http://www.jaws-users.com/BlindComputing/

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From: Pedro Romero phre...@comcast.net
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Modification to the guidelines


Hi David, this is indeed exciting news and I hope we will soon be able to 
discuss the use of i-devices.
Thanks for this wonderful and valuable list.
Pete 


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Re: [Blind-Computing] Winamp

2013-05-21 Thread inthaneelf
you can ask me, 

its my favorite

elf
inthane...@roadrunner.com
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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Gomes
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:13 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] winamp

I just started using winamp and am trying to learn it. I have trouble
remembering the key board short cuts but don't know what some of them are
for. Such as always on top. Is there anyone who is good at winamp on the
list who I can talk with to ask a few questions? thanks

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Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

2013-05-20 Thread inthaneelf
yes I would say that that would be my priority at first is to find out what
the heck is different between it and others

sorry I couldn't be of more help, but I am stumped, I'll dig in my notes
soon and see if I have anything on it but I do not remember anything like
this before. 

inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 3:59 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

when on the view updates, as I said, no internet explorer, but many 
windows headings, but none have anything concerning i.e. 10. guess I need a 
sighted person, but not happy with my pc for  not acting like my others with

jaws on them. thanks

-Original Message- 
From: inthaneelf
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 5:37 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

hmmm,

apparently they are, I'm trying to figure out how is the trick.

I thought I knew enough of w7 to assist you, but I still run into things
that baffle me and this has just become one of them.

I have not seen this reaction. or method of readout, are you using jaws or
something else. and have you rebooted since the update?

if your machine installed the I.E. 10 update, it must show up in the update
window, that's start menu, then type in control panel until you have it
enter, go to the programs and features link, and enter on it.
next you tab across until you see the view installed updates link and
enter on it and it will show up in that list of items

if yours is not working this way then I have no clue what may or may not
have been turned on or off to cause this change in readings.

and to activate it should be the same internet explorer icon that was in
your start menu previously.

apologies on my not being able to assist you more in this, but you have me
stumped this time,
inthaneelf
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 12:54 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

obviously I'm not familiar enough with the add or remove menu to follow your

instructions. as I said, on my xp pc, internet explorer is displayed as
internet explorer on the menu. on mine, the menu begins with 2, 3 digit
numbers, the downloaded program name, (letters and numbers), another name,
then date. if yours sounds different than this, then our machines are set
different

-Original Message- 
From: inthaneelf
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 1:29 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

its in the updates sub section look for a (I think its a ) button and enter
on it that should put you in the correct window.

inthaneelf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 3:25 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

  I went to the add or remove  list, and there is no internet explorer
listed, as it was on my xp pc, and only 2 windows listed, windows live
essentials and windows live sync, and since I do want to uninstall i.e.

10, can someone out there using windows 7, please go to their add or
remove list, and tell me if  there is a listing for their version of i.e.,

and if there is, please let me know what the listing says?

-Original Message- 
From: Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 10:03 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

Hi Tom,

Try this out, in the search box of the start menu of windows 7 type add and
remove programs and hit enter. Once the control panel window is open, use
shift tab to move to the link that says Turn Windows features on or off and
hit enter on it. In the list of programs you will find internet explorer
which ever version, if you check the box and tab to the OK button, it will
disable this feature. It's not exactly uninstalling the program but
disabling the windows feature. Now you can go ahead and install the new
version of IE.

But to my knowledge you can directly upgrade IE by downloading the latest
version and launching the setup file to the windows installer.

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn


-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 10:43 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

thanks, but already had that, but i need to be able to find it on the
programs and features list, so i can uninstill the current version,
but when i'm on the list, internet

Re: [Blind-Computing] help needed getting some lost wav files

2013-05-20 Thread inthaneelf
hi I might have copies, or partial copies of the files your talking about, I
just remembered them

I'll get back to you in a day or two after I search for them

inthane

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Behalf Of Group Mail
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] help needed getting some lost wav files

thank you, that would be apreciated
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From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] help needed getting some lost wav files


I took them down a while ago but I might still have them on an external
 drive. Since that system is currently powered up and I need to access
 something on it shortly I will also look and see if those files are still
 available or not.

 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved 
 from
 a simpler system that worked perfectly.


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 Behalf Of Group Mail
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:57 AM
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [Blind-Computing] help needed getting some lost wav files

Good morning, I am hoping that I can get some assistance from someone.
 Awhile back I visited the
 jaws users list website, and found two sets of files.
 1.
 Sound  wav files for Microsoft Word, and 2. and an extensive group of wav
 files of different types.
 I just recently reformatted my computer  and unfortunately  these two 
 items
 I forgot to back up.
 If there is anyone out there who  knows or remember what I am speaking of,
 and could assist me in getting them back, I'd greatly appreciate it.
 Thank you in advance.


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Re: [Blind-Computing] help needed getting some lost wav files

2013-05-20 Thread inthaneelf
we have mass confusion!

David had some specialized office sound files and a couple other collections
available in the past on the site that are not there now, I believe (as Dave
seems to) that these specialized files are the ones that the person is
looking for

nice of you to go to all that trouble though
elf
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:02 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] help needed getting some lost wav files

Hi Again GM,

Below is a Dropbox download link for the Windows XP default .WAV sound files

folder.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2471715/Windows%20Default%20Sounds.zip

These are just the .WAV files.  HTH
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

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Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] help needed getting some lost wav files


thank you, that would be apreciated
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] help needed getting some lost wav files


I took them down a while ago but I might still have them on an external
 drive. Since that system is currently powered up and I need to access
 something on it shortly I will also look and see if those files are still
 available or not.

 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved
 from
 a simpler system that worked perfectly.


 -Original Message-
 From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Group Mail
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:57 AM
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [Blind-Computing] help needed getting some lost wav files

Good morning, I am hoping that I can get some assistance from someone.
 Awhile back I visited the
 jaws users list website, and found two sets of files.
 1.
 Sound  wav files for Microsoft Word, and 2. and an extensive group of wav
 files of different types.
 I just recently reformatted my computer  and unfortunately  these two
 items
 I forgot to back up.
 If there is anyone out there who  knows or remember what I am speaking of,
 and could assist me in getting them back, I'd greatly appreciate it.
 Thank you in advance.


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Re: [Blind-Computing] Outlook Express

2013-05-20 Thread inthaneelf
most often if you go into the file menu and utilize the create new account
option and reenter your old email information under a new (slightly
different) user name you can retrieve your old saved emails, and keep using
the same l9oad up of O.E. from that point on. 

there are two applications available from:
www.jfwlite.com/programs

that are useful in retrieving and reworking email accounts in OE, they are
1. ebackup which backups and restores (or reinstalls) your oe with most of
its settings except for passwords and your signatures (those will be listed
but blank so will need to be redone and reinstalled)
and 2. dbExtract which is used to retrieve saved emails even if there in a
save file or moved to another spot or the oe client has gone sour

if you need help with either of these just let me know

regards,
inthane
inthane...@roadrunner.com
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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nancy Hill
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:44 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Outlook Express

Is there a place online where I can get a copy of Outlook Express?  I am 
using windows xp and all of a sudden I can't send anymailand I realize 
that fact as I write this.  Maybe it will go thru some day.

Thanks,
Nancy
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From: Kathy Pingstock kpingst...@gmail.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 1:26 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] skype


 Can anyone give me the subscribe name for skype users.



 Kathy

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Modification to the guidelines

2013-05-20 Thread inthaneelf
well, even though I don't have a real say in all of this, I agree with you,
a phone is a phone while tablets are obviously down to the basics computers
those basics are in a hand held package, yes but a iPhone still is unable to
compile and run a full fledged program, while if its basic enough to not be
to large for the on hand memory and the inbuilt storage slot capability  to
hold pads and tablets can

I used the second edition of the Tandy radio shack pocket computer, its
capabilities were less than a tablet or pad of today but it had a processor,
a math co processor, and memory and ran actual programs even if it had a
single line of simple text readout. 

glad to see the adaption, 
inthane

-Original Message-
from: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:16 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Modification to the guidelines

We have to draw a line somewhere or another. Besides there are to my
knowledge quite a number of cell phone lists. 

I know there will be some heat over such a choice, but that's the job I have
drawn. Besides there has been nothing written out so far.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 11:14 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Modification to the guidelines

Just to add my two cents, but if you are going to add all you say, I feel
the I Phone should be included too as most use much more as an I device
rather than a phone.

Al

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 8:49 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Modification to the guidelines

We are planning on making an addendum to the existing guidelines possibly
adding tablet computers. The documentation has not started as of yet, just
giving you folks a heads up. Phones will still be off topic but I pads and
such devices will most likely be allowed.
Obviously we will let you know the final decision.
 
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.
 
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Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

2013-05-18 Thread inthaneelf
it's not listed as IE10, just internet explorer or internet explorer 64 bit

essentially it is the replacement for the original internet explorer so it
uses links with the same name as 9 did, or at least that is the way it
worked on my win 7 home premium machine
unaltered location in the start menu(I made a pin to start menu on the
original link, so its in the menu directly under the search box, but the
original link is at):
hit the windows key to get to the start menu, up arrow once to the all
programs sub menu, then right arrow(here is a strange to most thing here, I
right arrow until I hear the name of a actual program, sometimes its once,
sometimes its three times and sometimes I must right arrow a couple times,
then left arrow) until you hear the name of an application, then hit the
letter I until you land on one of your internet explorer icons. there are
at least two, usually 3, Internet Explorer 64 bit, Internet Explorer and one
sometimes showing up that says something about without add ons (an emergency
version in case you get a virus that blocks you from getting to assistance
websites; like Microsoft security search and/or MacAfee stinger or Norton's
web powered scan site!, this one will still go to these locations for you to
get assistance with the little bugger) 

the differences seems to be how many programs that you have installed, I
have a lot of stuff on my home monster machine, that's why I bought a
monster machine, so its a small amount of work extra to get to things
without using the simple search box (which is why they put that search box
first in things!)

HTH,
inthane
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 3:03 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

  my pc did an update to i.e. 10 last night, and when I went to the control
panel installed programs list, as it's always been with win 7, I can't find
i.e. 10, either on it's own, or in the list of windows programs. can someone
who also has win 7, give me a hand in finding i.e. 10? I even went to the
list of installed updates, and even though there are about 10 updates for
windows, for 5/17, there's no i.e. 10
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Re: [Blind-Computing] internet explorer information bar?

2013-05-18 Thread inthaneelf
h, in the earlier days of it there was although I would not recommend
it, just like turning off UAC, its cutting off your nose to spite your face,
or cutting off the foot of your computers security guy and expecting it to
figuratively run and catch a problem, eh?

if your determined to see if you can in windows 7 and up and with I.E. 8 and
up there is an article about it on my grab bag site that if I remember right
tells you how to disable it despite the problems generated with that action.


http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com 

take care, and I'd backup before doing this in case you wish to undo it,
inthaneelf
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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of t.
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 4:46 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] internet explorer information bar?

is there a way to stop the information bar from popping up?
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Re: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode

2013-05-18 Thread inthaneelf
or, the speech in safe mode add on that is available on my grab bag site.
and either a set of USB sound card and speakers or standard head phones; or
(best actually) a set of USB headphones since there considered a external
sound card and have there own drivers that windows will find and install in
98% of cases

you will probably want to learn the commands for a lighter weight screen
reader like NVDA as well, since it seems easier to use in the safe mode
speech operations, but you can set up a cheat sheet and go from it while
using the safe mode operations as long as you know the few basic commands to
command line/run command  start the screen reader, for getting to the
desktop,  starting the sheet (I'd just put a shortcut to it on the desktop
to speed things up), changing to a text editor window, and to move in a text
editor reading window

that will give you speech in windows 7, 8, and it has been said XP as well,
though I have not tried the second or last ones yet myself
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

HTH,
inthane
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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 5:23 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode

You forgot to mention that there is no speech in safe mode.
Sighted assistance will be needed.
HTH,
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode


As soon as you hit the power button to boot your computer press the function
key F8, this should take you into safe mode.

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of t.
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:25 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode

I posted a question earlier, about administrator permission needed to
delete a folder, and when I asked a sighted friend, he said that I needed
to get in to safe mode to make this stop, so, can anyone fill me in on how
to get in to safe mode? tim
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Re: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode

2013-05-18 Thread inthaneelf
not normally

but if you get the safe mode speech package off my site it can be made to
work or at least NVDA will I can't remember if jaws does with this package,
but NVDA is fairly good. 
you will also need either a external USB sound card and headphones or
speakers, or a pair of USB headphones

all should be explained in the safe mode speech package. 

http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

inthaneelf
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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 7:38 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode

 so, if i hit f8 at reboot, as one reply had in it, which should put
me in safe mode, jaws wouldn't work?

On 5/17/13, Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 You forgot to mention that there is no speech in safe mode.
 Sighted assistance will be needed.
 HTH,
 Rick Justice
 - Original Message -
 From: Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode


 As soon as you hit the power button to boot your computer press the
 function
 key F8, this should take you into safe mode.

 Mujtaba Merchant
 Bangalore, India
 Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~
Jim
 Rohn

 -Original Message-
 From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of t.
 Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:25 PM
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode

 I posted a question earlier, about administrator permission needed to
 delete a folder, and when I asked a sighted friend, he said that I needed
 to get in to safe mode to make this stop, so, can anyone fill me in on how
 to get in to safe mode? tim
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Re: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode

2013-05-18 Thread inthaneelf
the problem is that the normal drivers are not loaded in safe mode, only
basic system drivers a barely minimum video keyboard and mouse driver and
the stuff for the basic systems no sound card drivers, 

but see my other responses for a fix

inthaneelf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:14 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode

Hi,

Extremely sorry about neglecting that fact. I have not gone into safe mode
myself after losing sight. I was under the impression that JAWS should load
in safe mode too if the computer has it installed because JAWS loads as a
service.

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 5:53 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode

You forgot to mention that there is no speech in safe mode.
Sighted assistance will be needed.
HTH,
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode


As soon as you hit the power button to boot your computer press the function
key F8, this should take you into safe mode.

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of t.
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:25 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode

I posted a question earlier, about administrator permission needed to
delete a folder, and when I asked a sighted friend, he said that I needed
to get in to safe mode to make this stop, so, can anyone fill me in on how
to get in to safe mode? tim
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Re: [Blind-Computing] my documents not on pc

2013-05-18 Thread inthaneelf
there there, use the search box to get to them, or if nothing else you can
find your my documents folder by going to the C: drive (windows key +e), and
then go to users, enter go to your users name, enter and look in there it
will be a folder saying either documents or my documents

and again in the start menu you can start menu up arrow once to all
programs, right arrow to the shutdown item, down-arrow to your user folder
and right arrow on it. 
then arrow down to the item you want a shortcut for and use your
applications key or shift and f10 to get to the applications menu and right
arrow on send to and enter on desktop(create shortcut) and va la instant
desktop shortcut

you will probably wish to go to your desktop and rename the shortcut mine
always say  - shortcut after the name

there is another way to set this up, go get my folder  on windows 7 helpful
hints (a zip file) from my grab bag site and find the desktop notes in it
for the other methods for setting this up 

http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

HTH,
inthaneelf
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 10:32 AM
To: blind-computing-join
Subject: [Blind-Computing] my documents not on pc

  i recently received a rebuilt pc from the son of a fellow jaws user,
it has jaws 12 on it, and plan on giving it to a friend who is new
with both jaws, and a pc. this pc has win 7 as it's os, and i.e. 9,
but there is no my documents, or control panel anywhere. does
anyone know i can install these 2 features on this pc?

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Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

2013-05-18 Thread inthaneelf
its in the updates sub section look for a (I think its a ) button and enter
on it that should put you in the correct window.

inthaneelf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 3:25 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

  I went to the add or remove  list, and there is no internet explorer 
listed, as it was on my xp pc, and only 2 windows listed, windows live 
essentials and windows live sync, and since I do want to uninstall i.e.

10, can someone out there using windows 7, please go to their add or 
 remove list, and tell me if  there is a listing for their version of i.e.,

and if there is, please let me know what the listing says?

-Original Message- 
From: Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 10:03 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

Hi Tom,

Try this out, in the search box of the start menu of windows 7 type add and
remove programs and hit enter. Once the control panel window is open, use
shift tab to move to the link that says Turn Windows features on or off and
hit enter on it. In the list of programs you will find internet explorer
which ever version, if you check the box and tab to the OK button, it will
disable this feature. It's not exactly uninstalling the program but
disabling the windows feature. Now you can go ahead and install the new
version of IE.

But to my knowledge you can directly upgrade IE by downloading the latest
version and launching the setup file to the windows installer.

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn


-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 10:43 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

thanks, but already had that, but i need to be able to find it on the
programs and features list, so i can uninstill the current version,
but when i'm on the list, internet explorer doesn't come up. hope this
makes sense

On 5/17/13, Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com wrote:
 The best way should be typing internet explorer in the search box in the
 start menu of windows 7 and launching it. Once it is up and running check
 the version by using the key combination Insert + Control + V

 Mujtaba Merchant
 Bangalore, India
 Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~
Jim
 Rohn


 -Original Message-
 From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Tom
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 3:33 PM
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

   my pc did an update to i.e. 10 last night, and when I went to the
control
 panel installed programs list, as it's always been with win 7, I can't
find
 i.e. 10, either on it's own, or in the list of windows programs. can
 someone
 who also has win 7, give me a hand in finding i.e. 10? I even went to the
 list of installed updates, and even though there are about 10 updates for
 windows, for 5/17, there's no i.e. 10
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Re: [Blind-Computing] R: getting in to safe mode

2013-05-18 Thread inthaneelf
its on my website...
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

regards,
inthaneelf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Angela Delicata
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:44 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] R: getting in to safe mode

How can I reach their Website?
Thanks in advance.
Angela from Italy

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conto di Brad Dunse
Inviato: sabato 18 maggio 2013 16:24
A: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Oggetto: Re: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode

I use to have a system registry addition which allowed speech to start in
Windows 7 at Safe Mode. If you ask around to the CAVI folks or go up to
their web resources it might be up there.

Brad
 

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:35 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode

Hi Elf,
I was already aware of this,just didn't
want to introduce to much info in this situation.
Thanks,
Rick Justice

- Original Message -
From: inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode


the problem is that the normal drivers are not loaded in safe mode, only
basic system drivers a barely minimum video keyboard and mouse driver and
the stuff for the basic systems no sound card drivers,

but see my other responses for a fix

inthaneelf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:14 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode

Hi,

Extremely sorry about neglecting that fact. I have not gone into safe mode
myself after losing sight. I was under the impression that JAWS should load
in safe mode too if the computer has it installed because JAWS loads as a
service.

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 5:53 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode

You forgot to mention that there is no speech in safe mode.
Sighted assistance will be needed.
HTH,
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode


As soon as you hit the power button to boot your computer press the function
key F8, this should take you into safe mode.

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of t.
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:25 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] getting in to safe mode

I posted a question earlier, about administrator permission needed to
delete a folder, and when I asked a sighted friend, he said that I needed
to get in to safe mode to make this stop, so, can anyone fill me in on how
to get in to safe mode? tim
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Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

2013-05-18 Thread inthaneelf
hmmm, 

apparently they are, I'm trying to figure out how is the trick. 

I thought I knew enough of w7 to assist you, but I still run into things
that baffle me and this has just become one of them. 

I have not seen this reaction. or method of readout, are you using jaws or
something else. and have you rebooted since the update?

if your machine installed the I.E. 10 update, it must show up in the update
window, that's start menu, then type in control panel until you have it
enter, go to the programs and features link, and enter on it.
next you tab across until you see the view installed updates link and
enter on it and it will show up in that list of items

if yours is not working this way then I have no clue what may or may not
have been turned on or off to cause this change in readings. 

and to activate it should be the same internet explorer icon that was in
your start menu previously. 

apologies on my not being able to assist you more in this, but you have me
stumped this time,
inthaneelf 
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 12:54 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

obviously I'm not familiar enough with the add or remove menu to follow your

instructions. as I said, on my xp pc, internet explorer is displayed as 
internet explorer on the menu. on mine, the menu begins with 2, 3 digit 
numbers, the downloaded program name, (letters and numbers), another name, 
then date. if yours sounds different than this, then our machines are set 
different

-Original Message- 
From: inthaneelf
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 1:29 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

its in the updates sub section look for a (I think its a ) button and enter
on it that should put you in the correct window.

inthaneelf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 3:25 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

  I went to the add or remove  list, and there is no internet explorer
listed, as it was on my xp pc, and only 2 windows listed, windows live
essentials and windows live sync, and since I do want to uninstall i.e.

10, can someone out there using windows 7, please go to their add or
remove list, and tell me if  there is a listing for their version of i.e.,

and if there is, please let me know what the listing says?

-Original Message- 
From: Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 10:03 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

Hi Tom,

Try this out, in the search box of the start menu of windows 7 type add and
remove programs and hit enter. Once the control panel window is open, use
shift tab to move to the link that says Turn Windows features on or off and
hit enter on it. In the list of programs you will find internet explorer
which ever version, if you check the box and tab to the OK button, it will
disable this feature. It's not exactly uninstalling the program but
disabling the windows feature. Now you can go ahead and install the new
version of IE.

But to my knowledge you can directly upgrade IE by downloading the latest
version and launching the setup file to the windows installer.

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn


-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 10:43 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

thanks, but already had that, but i need to be able to find it on the
programs and features list, so i can uninstill the current version,
but when i'm on the list, internet explorer doesn't come up. hope this
makes sense

On 5/17/13, Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com wrote:
 The best way should be typing internet explorer in the search box in the
 start menu of windows 7 and launching it. Once it is up and running check
 the version by using the key combination Insert + Control + V

 Mujtaba Merchant
 Bangalore, India
 Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~
Jim
 Rohn


 -Original Message-
 From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Tom
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 3:33 PM
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [Blind-Computing] navigating installed programs

   my pc did an update to i.e. 10 last night, and when I went to the
control
 panel installed programs list, as it's always been with win 7, I can't
find
 i.e. 10, either on it's own, or in the list of windows programs. can
 someone
 who also has win 7, give me a hand

Re: [Blind-Computing] Winamp portable music player;

2013-05-16 Thread inthaneelf
uninstall the Winamp detector plug in

it should be a seperate listing, or if not then remove and reinstall using
the custom install selection so you have more control over what is
happening.

and that window is asking you if this is a media device that it is to
monitor if not just alt f4 it

inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dan McCurley
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 6:54 PM
To: blind computing list
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Winamp portable music player;

Lately, when I try to use a flash drive in my computer, this portable media
player comes up with only a yes button.  Does anyone know how to get rid of
this thing;  I'm using jaws 14 and windows 7;  thanks,

Dan
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Re: [Blind-Computing] active x control

2013-05-16 Thread inthaneelf
that can be found on my website.
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

elf


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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Marilyn Walker
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:21 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] active x control

Using xp and ie8, I need to install the active x control in order to view 
the windows update site.  Here are the directions but I don't know how to 
find the information bar.  Help, people.  Marilyn 
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Re: [Blind-Computing] How to find internet explorer information bar

2013-05-16 Thread inthaneelf
oh my word, 

alt and n together

sigh,
elf
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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bob W
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:22 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How to find internet explorer information bar

Hi Marilyn,
I would have sworn there's a keystroke to get to the information bar, but I 
looked through the jaws help but came up with nothing.

You may have to turn your jaws cursor on with the minus key. Then do a ctrl 
home to get to the top of the page and start arrowing down passed the page 
title, menus, until you hear something about information bar, or activex. 
Press your right mouse key (slash key on your calculator keyboard). This 
should give you some options to deal with the activex problem.

If you don't find the information bar/activex stuff I talked about earlier, 
press your pc cursor key, then turn your virtual cursor mode off with 
insert+z and then try the steps in the above paragraph again.

Before resuming, don't forget to turn virtual cursor mode back on with 
insert+z.

Hope this helps..

Bob (I hate the information bar)

roses are red,
violets are blue,
I'm schizophrenic,
And I am too!

- Original Message - 
From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:24 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] How to find internet explorer information bar


I can't install the active x control to read the windows update page.  How
do I find the information bar?  marilyn
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Re: [Blind-Computing] windows media player

2013-05-13 Thread inthaneelf
a few notes although most are based on Winamp. 

on the shuffle mode thing in Winamp, if I start a shuffle mode after... I
have started a play list, it for me at least shuffles among the songs in the
play list. 

I have (I listen to several kinds of music) a NT rock list, containing
almost all my rock folder music, and a NT {means near total} country list,
and the shuffle does its selections from the list (I have a number of
selections that are when I'm in the mode for them items that aren't in
these play lists. and they are not included when I hit shuffle on either
list even though there in the same folders as the rest of the songs.

also I have no problem using and finding the current song in a playlist in
the Winamp playlist editor, these items are why I started using Winamp to
start with, smile

so, my recommendation would be to use Winamp, if your willing, I find it
much easier to navigate in and with. 

elf
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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Gomes
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 7:20 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] windows media player

I recently put my cd collection on my hard drive in mp3 format and I got
this real cool toy called an audio engine wireless adapter that sends the
music downstairs to the stereo. I am using windows media player with windows
7. I would like to be able to use shuffle mode to shuffle a play list. If I
turn shuffle on, the songs are picked from the whole collection. Now we
don't want that because we don't want to hear Christmas songs  in the middle
of may. In the play list options sufffle list is unavailable. I tried winamp
but cant stand it because it puts all kinds of other junk on the computer.
Also when I stop the play list, it doesn't tell me what track is playing.
Any ideas? thanks

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Winamp, How Do I Get It To Play Videos

2013-05-10 Thread inthaneelf
a note, I use Winamp for most of my video's and it was no trouble to set up
and works just fine for most of them.

elf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dooie
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 3:39 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Winamp, How Do I Get It To Play Videos

Hello Mujtaba,

Out of curiocity, which version of WinAmp do you use,  where might that
version procured?

Thank you,

Dooie



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Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 20:00
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Winamp, How Do I Get It To Play Videos

Hi Mike,

This can be done but it's really tricky if you are a novice at technical
stuff. I too have the same problem, I can't play any videos in winamp.
Somehow, the idea of playing videos in winamp does not appeal to me either.
However, winamp is my best music player and organizer. I would recommend you
to use VLC media player instead for any video formats. You can obtain VLC
media for free from the site: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html

If you are not comfortable with that follow this link for instructions on
how to make winamp play your video files (not personally tried this though):
http://www.osnn.net/windows-applications/9-use-winamp-play-all-video-fil
es.html

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 5:53 AM
To: Blind Computing
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Winamp, How Do I Get It To Play Videos

Hi All,

I downloaded videos in .AVI, WMV, MP4,  Original YouTube MP4 but, I can't 
get any of them to come up on the as a video.  I went into the WinAmp file 
menu  checked the video option but, still no go.  My wife tells me that 
there is a box displaying on the monitor that looks like it should be 
displaying a video but, nothing.  I'm running XP Pro  WinAmp 5.63.  All 
advice  help will be greatly appreciated.  Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

2013-05-07 Thread inthaneelf
ok as I said my windows 7 stuff is on my site.
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

and the win 8 stuff will be on its way in a couple attached to a direct
email

if I have gotten confused on something just send me a note, LOL too much
stuff going on!

take care,
elf
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 2:02 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

Hi Inthane,

Yes, if it's not too much trouble to send them to me, that would be greatly 
appreciated.  Thank you very, very much.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: inthaneelf
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization


I have a helpful hints zip file on my Grabbag site and I have some hints
reviews and tutorials set here that I can zip and send to you if you wish?

my site is at:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

take care,
inthane
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 7:17 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

Sure Mike, these things are just a pain to work with at times. I am still
trying to adapt to my new Windows 7 PC. Catching up fast with it's features
and where to find what on it.

In Windows 7 the add and remove programs is totally different compared to XP
actually the whole control panel looks extremely different. I hear it gets
even more complicated in Windows 8. Any reviews out there?

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:45 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

Hi Mujtaba,

I was able to get that Groove thing turned off  it does not show in the
file menu list anymore so, I'm good with that.  Thanks again for all your
help.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Mujtaba Merchant
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization


This is a new offering from Microsoft. It is a virtual
office. You can share, edit and access all your groove files and folders
from any computer regardless of it being your computer or any network.

If you wish to know more about it you can visit:
http://geekswithblogs.net/SabotsShell/archive/2006/02/16/69679.aspx

I did not find it that exciting or of any use to me so I uninstalled it. If
you need instructions to help you do the same visit:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907504

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 6:53 PM
To: Blind Computing
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

Hi All,

I was in the file menu of my XP Home system when I noticed,
Groove Folder Synchronization checkbox checked in the file menu list.  What
is this  what does it do?!  Also, how do I uncheck it?  Pressing enter or
spacebar does not uncheck it!  Any advice  help will be greatly
appreciated.  Thank you all very much.

Take care.
Mike
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

2013-05-07 Thread inthaneelf
oops, ok am confused, and I don't have anything on that particular subject,
in fact ... 

yes, I marked your message on this for reference and searching, *sigh* ok I
lost track of something here, I hate this... 

alright, now to try and find out who or what I forgot,
elf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 5:23 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

Hi Elf,

Thank you very much for all your help  yes, idid receive the zipped file 
with the Windows8 information but, I wasn't the 1 who requested Win8 info! 
LOL  LOL

I had asked about Groove Folder Synchronization in Office 2007 but, I'll go 
to your website  see what I can find.  Thanks again.
Take care.
Mike
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  - Original Message - 
  From: inthaneelf
  To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 4:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization


  ok as I said my windows 7 stuff is on my site.
  http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

  and the win 8 stuff will be on its way in a couple attached to a direct
  email

  if I have gotten confused on something just send me a note, LOL too much
  stuff going on!

  take care,
  elf
  -Original Message-
  From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
  Behalf Of Mike B.
  Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 2:02 PM
  To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
  Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

  Hi Inthane,

  Yes, if it's not too much trouble to send them to me, that would be 
greatly
  appreciated.  Thank you very, very much.
  Take care.
  Mike
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  - Original Message - 
  From: inthaneelf
  To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 1:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization


  I have a helpful hints zip file on my Grabbag site and I have some hints
  reviews and tutorials set here that I can zip and send to you if you wish?

  my site is at:
  http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

  take care,
  inthane
  -Original Message-
  From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
  Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant
  Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 7:17 PM
  To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
  Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

  Sure Mike, these things are just a pain to work with at times. I am still
  trying to adapt to my new Windows 7 PC. Catching up fast with it's 
features
  and where to find what on it.

  In Windows 7 the add and remove programs is totally different compared to 
XP
  actually the whole control panel looks extremely different. I hear it gets
  even more complicated in Windows 8. Any reviews out there?

  Mujtaba Merchant
  Bangalore, India
  Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ 
Jim
  Rohn

  -Original Message-
  From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
  Behalf Of Mike B.
  Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:45 AM
  To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
  Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

  Hi Mujtaba,

  I was able to get that Groove thing turned off  it does not show in the
  file menu list anymore so, I'm good with that.  Thanks again for all your
  help.
  Take care.
  Mike
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Mujtaba Merchant
  To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 6:40 AM
  Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization


  This is a new offering from Microsoft. It is a virtual
  office. You can share, edit and access all your groove files and folders
  from any computer regardless of it being your computer or any network.

  If you wish to know more about it you can visit:
  http://geekswithblogs.net/SabotsShell/archive/2006/02/16/69679.aspx

  I did not find it that exciting or of any use to me so I uninstalled it. 
If
  you need instructions to help you do the same visit:
  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907504

  Mujtaba Merchant
  Bangalore, India
  Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ 
Jim
  Rohn

  -Original Message-
  From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
  Behalf Of Mike B.
  Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 6:53 PM
  To: Blind Computing
  Subject: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

  Hi All,

  I was in the file menu of my XP Home system when I noticed,
  Groove Folder Synchronization checkbox checked in the file menu list. 
What
  is this  what does it do?!  Also, how do I uncheck it?  Pressing enter or
  spacebar does not uncheck it!  Any advice  help will be greatly
  appreciated.  Thank you all very much.

  Take care.
  Mike
  This email was sent from my

Re: [Blind-Computing] View Protected files?

2013-05-07 Thread inthaneelf
hi cliff,

here is the notes I have that will enable your friend to handle this. 
 There are two ways to solve this problem:

1. Unlock the file in the file properties in Windows Explorer before
opening the file.

2. Unprotect it once you get into Word.

Here are directions for both:

Method 1:

1. Select the file in Windows Explorer.

2. Press the context key and choose the Properties option. It will be
at the bottom of the list.

3. Press the spacebar on the Unlock button. Note when you do this
focus is left on the unlock button. You will have to use your JAWS cursor or
virtual cursor to click on the OK button.

4. Now the file won't be protected when you bring it up in the Office
application.

Method 2:

1. Open the document in Word.

2. Press Alt-f for the Office pull-down, I for Info and E for Make
Editable. This will unprotect the document. I don't know if the exact steps
are the same for other Office applications or not. If not, with a little
exploration you can find out how to do this. 

have a good day,
inthaneelf


-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cliff Smales
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:26 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] View Protected files?

I sent a couple of files to a friend, as attachments. 

She was unable to open them as the computer message read, 

View Protected. 

I've never had this happen before. 

How can my friend circumvent that code and open those attachments? 

Cliff Smales 
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

2013-05-03 Thread inthaneelf
I have a helpful hints zip file on my Grabbag site and I have some hints
reviews and tutorials set here that I can zip and send to you if you wish?

my site is at:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

take care,
inthane
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 7:17 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

Sure Mike, these things are just a pain to work with at times. I am still
trying to adapt to my new Windows 7 PC. Catching up fast with it's features
and where to find what on it.

In Windows 7 the add and remove programs is totally different compared to XP
actually the whole control panel looks extremely different. I hear it gets
even more complicated in Windows 8. Any reviews out there?

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:45 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

Hi Mujtaba,

I was able to get that Groove thing turned off  it does not show in the 
file menu list anymore so, I'm good with that.  Thanks again for all your 
help.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Mujtaba Merchant
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization


This is a new offering from Microsoft. It is a virtual
office. You can share, edit and access all your groove files and folders
from any computer regardless of it being your computer or any network.

If you wish to know more about it you can visit:
http://geekswithblogs.net/SabotsShell/archive/2006/02/16/69679.aspx

I did not find it that exciting or of any use to me so I uninstalled it. If
you need instructions to help you do the same visit:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907504

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 6:53 PM
To: Blind Computing
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

Hi All,

I was in the file menu of my XP Home system when I noticed,
Groove Folder Synchronization checkbox checked in the file menu list.  What
is this  what does it do?!  Also, how do I uncheck it?  Pressing enter or
spacebar does not uncheck it!  Any advice  help will be greatly
appreciated.  Thank you all very much.

Take care.
Mike
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

2013-05-03 Thread inthaneelf
hi, 

shortcuts, although they do use a small amount of resources, the amount is
so small that unless your running a single core computer with under a GByte
of ram your not going to notice it, that's if all your using is shortcuts
and/or folders to sort them into. 

also, having your information on your C drive is not going to slow you down
significantly, what it does do is make it far more difficult to
replace/reload the OS without wiping out your data as well, and slows that
process down. 

those using a small drive or partition of a drive can fix things far faster
since they do not have to worry about destroying there data when they wipe
and reload the OS. 

ssd's as expensive as they currently are, will increase boot speed even more
than anything else you have mentioned, in which case using the smaller ssd
for the OS and another larger and slower standard hard drive for your data
is quite the recommendation now a days.

take care,
inthaneelf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 7:18 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the link. I abstain from putting shortcuts on the desktop, simply
because it eats up resources. Also an advice to all is that do not store all
your data in the C drive. Instead store it in any other drive. Reason for
this is your Operating System sits in the C drive. Having too many programs
or data files on this drive will slow down Windows start up or shut down,
also to a great extent the performance of your PC.

In Windows 7 you can just type in the program name in the search box and
it's there for you to hit enter on it and launch it. Like for example you
would use the windows key to have the start menu opened, the focus will be
in the search edit box, just type word and this will throw up results of the
programs that have word in them, use the up and down arrow keys and locate
the program you wish to launch and hit enter to launch it. Usually it's the
first program in the search list, so not much worries.

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn


-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 6:12 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

Hi Mujtaba

Click on the link below for a list of shortcuts that you can put in a folder

on your desktop.  It will help until you get more familiar with Widows7.

http://www.jaws-users.com/text/Shortcuts/Windows7/index.html

Thanks again for all the help you provide the list.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Mujtaba Merchant
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization


Sure Mike, these things are just a pain to work with at times. I am still
trying to adapt to my new Windows 7 PC. Catching up fast with it's features
and where to find what on it.

In Windows 7 the add and remove programs is totally different compared to XP
actually the whole control panel looks extremely different. I hear it gets
even more complicated in Windows 8. Any reviews out there?

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:45 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization

Hi Mujtaba,

I was able to get that Groove thing turned off  it does not show in the
file menu list anymore so, I'm good with that.  Thanks again for all your
help.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Mujtaba Merchant
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Groove Folder Synchronization


This is a new offering from Microsoft. It is a virtual
office. You can share, edit and access all your groove files and folders
from any computer regardless of it being your computer or any network.

If you wish to know more about it you can visit:
http://geekswithblogs.net/SabotsShell/archive/2006/02/16/69679.aspx

I did not find it that exciting or of any use to me so I uninstalled it. If
you need instructions to help you do the same visit:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907504

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 6:53 PM
To: Blind Computing

Re: [Blind-Computing] need a certain converter to convert a mp2 file inmp3 file

2013-05-02 Thread inthaneelf
go get format factory:
http://www.pcfreetime.com/download.html

I'm fairly sure it can do the job

elf
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TS Negi
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 3:04 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] need a certain converter to convert a mp2 file
inmp3 file

Hi friends, My friend does have some mp2 files, to convert them to mp3, he
needs such a converter. Please help to upload the same.
Thanks
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Send To, How To Add Folders / Places To It

2013-05-01 Thread inthaneelf
hi,

just a quick addendum to this. 

I myself send a shortcut to send to to the folder, this way if I want to add
something to the list of places I can send to all I do is make the
shortcut and then send it to send to, the next time I use the option my new
link is there. 

been doing this for years now
on XP machines its in C:, documents and settings, {user name}, Send To.
on windows 7 (and probably vista), it's in, {user name}, C:, Users, [user
name}, AppData, Roaming, Microsoft, Windows, SendTo

take care,
elf
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 8:50 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Send To, How To Add Folders / Places To It

Hi, Mike,

These are great instructions. I use the send to method when I'm sending 
songs to a friend of mine in Maine. I've sent him quite a few songs using 
this method. That's the easiest method for me to use when sending 
attachments.

Thanks for sharing this tip with us.


Rosemarie

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 6:38 AM
To: Blind Computing
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Send To, How To Add Folders / Places To It

Every computer user has one specific place or folder in windows where
he / she likes to dump all of his / her files and folders. It can be
My Documents
folder, C drive, D drive, Desktop or anywhere in Windows. In order to
put your files and folder at your favourite place, each time you have
to follow either of these two classic methods :

Note: I know all of you know these basic things, but their is
something else which i want to tell you all. Just keep reading it

First Method
1. Select your file or folder which you want to move or copy
2. Right click to display a context menu
3. Click Copy or Cut
4. Go to the location where you want to put your file or folder
5. Right click to display a context menu
6. Click Paste

Second Method
1. Select your file or folder which you want to move or copy
2. Press CTRL + C to copy or CTRL + X to cut (move)
3. Go to the location where you want to put your file or folder
4. Press CTRL + V to paste it

Following the above steps looks easy but when there is a way to speed up
the whole process, than why not use that option.

Whenever you right click any file or folder, (you noticed or not)
their is an option of Send To in the context menu. The shortcut key
for it after pressing the application key is letter, N.  By default, there
are some limited options available in that menu, but you can add your own
folder or location over there and than can easily copy any file or folder to
your favorite folder or location instantly. But before moving ahead, let's
see what the
default options available in the Send To menu are.

Default Options In The Send To Menu

Right click any file or a folder and select the Send To option from
the menu. For example, at one of my PC these are the options available
in the Send To menu.

Let me tell you briefly about the most common options of the Send To menu :

Compressed (zipped) Folder : Clicking this option will quickly creates
a compressed file (Zip file) and copies the selected files or folders
to it.

Desktop (create shortcut) : Clicking this option will create a
shortcut of your file or folder on the desktop.

My Documents or Documents : Clicking this option will create a Copy of
the selected file or folder to the Documents folder.

Fax Recipient : Clicking this option will allows you to send the file
as a fax via the Windows Fax and Scan tool. (you need to configure
windows to work
like that)

Mail Recipient : Clicking this option will allows you to easily attach
a file to an e-mail message. (It will only work if you have installed
any email
client. For e.g. Ms-Outlook, Outlook Express, Thunderbird etc.)

CD/DVD RW drive : Clicking this option will create a Copy of the
selected file or folder to the CD/DVD drive, so that you can burn your
documents easily
on the CD/DVD.

USB drive : Clicking this option will create a Copy of the selected
file or folder to the USB drive (if it's already plugged into your
computer)

3 1/2 Floppy (A:) : Clicking this option will create a Copy of the
selected file or folder to the floppy drive (if you have that in your
computer)


How To Add Any Folder In The Send To Menu

After knowing much about the Send To menu, now let's see how you can
add your favorite folder in it. By doing that you can easily copy your
files / folders
by simply right clicking it.

Note: You can also
add Copy To or Move To option in your right click menu,
but I recommend that method only to those people who know what they are
doing.

Go to the location of your favorite folder, Right Click it, click
Send To and select Desktop (create shortcut)

It will instantly create a shortcut on the desktop of your folder.

Now go to your Desktop and Right click the Shortcut folder and select
Rename.

Just remove the 

Re: [Blind-Computing] Symantec and JAWS Screen Reader

2013-04-30 Thread inthaneelf
ah, oh well, it isn't exactly what you were thinking, you need to remember
that all English must be taken in text or according to what item it is
referring to. 

this isn't a brag or even a statement about blocking a screen reader, its
actually the opposite by reference, how to permanently unblock a file like
a accessibility program if we accidently block the thing

ah well, no big battle for me, dreck I was looking forward to something or
someone to tear into!

guess I'll have to go pound on a pillow instead *sigh*

take care, and thank you for responding!
inthaneelf
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:28 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Symantec and JAWS Screen Reader

Here you go with the URL to the Symantec site:
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=HOWTO80927

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 1:00 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Symantec and JAWS Screen Reader

ah, please send me the URL of that page!

thanks,
the elf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 6:46 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Symantec and JAWS Screen Reader

Angelo, thanks for the appreciation. I am in the process of writing FS and
Symantec an email with all the technical details so that they can address
this issue in all future releases of their products. Lucky for them I am not
in the United States, I would have sued Symantec because they are so damn
bold in writing on their site that their product blocks screen readers.

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Angelo DeMarsico
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 8:34 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Symantec and JAWS Screen Reader

Wonderful work! Angelo

-Original Message- 
From: Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 10:20 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Symantec and JAWS Screen Reader

Hello Folks,



This is something spectacular I came across at my work place and thought I
should share it with you guys.



I work on a Windows 7 OS PC with JAWS 14 installed on it. Now, this PC is
behind a corporate firewall and has Symantec protection I believe corporate
edition. When the IT department installed JAWS on this PC there were initial
glitches in installing it and activating it to the full version. Had
something to do with Administrative privilages. Anyhow, this has nothing
with the concern of this email.



I started experiencing iratic behavior from JAWS on applications that were
of my daily use. For example we use Microsoft Communicator 2007 as an
internal communication tool or IM client as some of you may know it as. JAWS
fails to announce the status of my contact in the contacts list, there is
absolutely no clue if the contact is away, in a meeting, busy or just
offline. Then on some web pages it failed to read elements like buttons and
some links. In excel when I switch to the worksheet from another
application, by default the home tab is already selected so I need to press
the escape key before doing anything on the sheet. Sometimes, JAWS would
just get paranoid and start reading arbid text from an application which is
no longer in focus.



This made me get really frustrated and I wrote to Freedom Scientific. They
gave me a work around for my communicator issue, unfortunately it did not
work as expected. I did a little research on the net and found out the
culprit is the Symantec protection software that is blocking JAWS
functionality. Here is what Symantec had to say on their website:



You can create file exceptions for Tamper Protection. You might want to
create a Tamper Protection exception if Tamper Protection interferes with a
known safe application on your client computers. For example, Tamper
Protection might block an assistive technology application.



Source: http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=HOWTO80927
id=HOWTO80927



Now my question is why does one have to got to go through this extra effort
in adding JAWS or for that matter any other screen reader in the exemption
list of applications in Symantec? Should not they have already figured out
that this will create hinderances to any blind user in a corporate

Re: [Blind-Computing] XP to Win 7

2013-04-30 Thread inthaneelf
yes, I think there is going to be a problem though.

I don't think the drivers for XP will work in Vista or win 7, vista ones
worked most of the time in 7 but not XP drivers from what I remember. 

you might want to access the acer site and see if they have vista/windows 7
drivers for your machine, and/or use driver Magician to make a list of the
drivers you need and hunt them up if there available prior to your install

HTH,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:28 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] XP to Win 7

Driver Magician will do the job. I have been using it for over a year
already and it has served me well. 


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:51 AM
To: Blind-Computing
Subject: [Blind-Computing] XP to Win 7

Most of my home network is already Win 7. However I still have an old Acer
computer that meets Win 7 OS specs and I'd like to put a copy of Win 7 on it
to use as a backup. If XP was not being discontinued in a year I'd just
leave as is.

Now for the challenge and hopefully some list advice. Since it is an Acer
computer the unit came with XP preinstalled along with a bunch of stuff. So
I do not have a driver disk with all necessary drivers for the system. I
know I could go with a Win 7 upgrade but I have never been a proponent of
that. I feel that is just asking to migrate any issues I've ever had on the
XP box into the Win  7 OS. I favor  a clean install over a freshly formatted
drive. I believe in the past I had read of some software available that
could be run on an existing OS and copy all necessary drivers to an export
file or CD? Otherwise I don't know of any way to get the drivers off the
factory restore disk.

 

Thanks,

Al

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Symantec and JAWS Screen Reader

2013-04-29 Thread inthaneelf
ah, please send me the URL of that page!

thanks,
the elf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 6:46 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Symantec and JAWS Screen Reader

Angelo, thanks for the appreciation. I am in the process of writing FS and
Symantec an email with all the technical details so that they can address
this issue in all future releases of their products. Lucky for them I am not
in the United States, I would have sued Symantec because they are so damn
bold in writing on their site that their product blocks screen readers.

Mujtaba Merchant
Bangalore, India
Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Angelo DeMarsico
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 8:34 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Symantec and JAWS Screen Reader

Wonderful work! Angelo

-Original Message- 
From: Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 10:20 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Symantec and JAWS Screen Reader

Hello Folks,



This is something spectacular I came across at my work place and thought I
should share it with you guys.



I work on a Windows 7 OS PC with JAWS 14 installed on it. Now, this PC is
behind a corporate firewall and has Symantec protection I believe corporate
edition. When the IT department installed JAWS on this PC there were initial
glitches in installing it and activating it to the full version. Had
something to do with Administrative privilages. Anyhow, this has nothing
with the concern of this email.



I started experiencing iratic behavior from JAWS on applications that were
of my daily use. For example we use Microsoft Communicator 2007 as an
internal communication tool or IM client as some of you may know it as. JAWS
fails to announce the status of my contact in the contacts list, there is
absolutely no clue if the contact is away, in a meeting, busy or just
offline. Then on some web pages it failed to read elements like buttons and
some links. In excel when I switch to the worksheet from another
application, by default the home tab is already selected so I need to press
the escape key before doing anything on the sheet. Sometimes, JAWS would
just get paranoid and start reading arbid text from an application which is
no longer in focus.



This made me get really frustrated and I wrote to Freedom Scientific. They
gave me a work around for my communicator issue, unfortunately it did not
work as expected. I did a little research on the net and found out the
culprit is the Symantec protection software that is blocking JAWS
functionality. Here is what Symantec had to say on their website:



You can create file exceptions for Tamper Protection. You might want to
create a Tamper Protection exception if Tamper Protection interferes with a
known safe application on your client computers. For example, Tamper
Protection might block an assistive technology application.



Source: http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=HOWTO80927
id=HOWTO80927



Now my question is why does one have to got to go through this extra effort
in adding JAWS or for that matter any other screen reader in the exemption
list of applications in Symantec? Should not they have already figured out
that this will create hinderances to any blind user in a corporate
environment? Why can't Freedom Scientific OR Symantec take some ownership in
creating a more accessible environment for a blind user when it comes to
security.



Lucky for me, I have some technical knowledge to back up my researching
ability, imagine a novice blind computer user, he/she would have to go
through a lot of trouble to demystify this strange behavior of his installed
copy of JAWS. This is of most concern because there is no mention of this
issue being reported by Freedom Scientific on their site. I am going to dig
their forums to further investigate this claim of mine.



Mujtaba Merchant

Bangalore, India

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Rohn



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Re: [Blind-Computing] Automatic Numbering in Word 2013

2013-04-29 Thread inthaneelf
I will be doing this in the next couple days bar catastrophe's!

take care,
elf
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rosario Perez
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:02 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Automatic Numbering in Word 2013

Inthane, I think that it will be nice if you can put them all on line so
that all of us who need them, can find them on your website.

Rosario


Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something
you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship,
you really haven't learned anything.

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 12:01 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Automatic Numbering in Word 2013

there are some quick reference manuals on the Microsoft website, mayhap
those could assist you?

I have copies of them as well so if you need I can pass them along, or with
enough requests I can package or upload them for online reference

inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve  Shannon Cook
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 3:17 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Automatic Numbering in Word 2013

Hi All,

Using jaws 14, windows 7 and word 2013.  Does anyone know how to turn off
automatic numbering in Word 2013?  Thanks in advance!

Steve


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Re: [Blind-Computing] IE9 or IE10?

2013-04-29 Thread inthaneelf
check with important sights especially shopping sites and banks, I had
little trouble with 10 until my banks site wouldn't accept it, that and two
of my purchasing sites all had a problem with 10 at this time, so off it
came until later.

elf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Carliss
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:20 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] IE9 or IE10?

Listers,

I keep getting internetExplorer10 In windows updates, but I don't want to
download it until I find outwhether Jaws14 will work with it and just how
well. In the mean time I'm going to see what the web has to say about the
two.

Thanks!

 

 

Carliss 

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Automatic Numbering in Word 2013

2013-04-26 Thread inthaneelf
there are some quick reference manuals on the Microsoft website, mayhap
those could assist you?

I have copies of them as well so if you need I can pass them along, or with
enough requests I can package or upload them for online reference

inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve  Shannon Cook
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 3:17 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Automatic Numbering in Word 2013

Hi All,

Using jaws 14, windows 7 and word 2013.  Does anyone know how to turn off
automatic numbering in Word 2013?  Thanks in advance!

Steve


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Re: [Blind-Computing] jaws authorization number

2013-04-26 Thread inthaneelf
yes, you will probably want to do an online registration/authorization for
speed's sake, and will need the number to get them to give you an
authorization code

hth,
inthane
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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:29 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] jaws authorization number

  I will be putting jaws on my work pc, but can't find my authorization
disk, but do have my authorization number saved in a folder. I don't
remember, but will I enter my authorization number during the jaws
installation?
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Updating java

2013-04-23 Thread inthaneelf
ah folks, balloons are accessible when they occur if you can immediately hit
the left mouse butt keys on your computer (don't know if your on a desktop,
a laptop with a desktop keyboard or a laptop keyboard)

if not you should be able to find the java update in your system tray if you
have display all items turned on for the tray and you go there directly
after the balloon shows up.

HTH,
inthane
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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mark Peveto
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:29 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Updating java

Randy,
Having the same trouble here, but there's no way that I know of to get to 
the balloon  without installing another jaws script, and I haven't been able

to do that successfully, either, using jaws 14.

-Original Message- 
From: randy tijerina
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:25 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Updating java

friends, i'm having a little trouble and it's annoying me.
there's this ballon that keeps popping up that a new versin of  java
is available.
i can't get to that thing.
I'm using windows 7 by the way.
what's the best way to update it?


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Re: [Blind-Computing] Updating java

2013-04-23 Thread inthaneelf
there are also a set of balloon fix it tips available on my grab bag site:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

regards,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of randy tijerina
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 10:31 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Updating java

those satta frassen balloons drive me nuts!
At 09:28 AM 4/18/2013, you wrote:
Randy,
Having the same trouble here, but there's no way that I know of to 
get to the balloon  without installing another jaws script, and I 
haven't been able to do that successfully, either, using jaws 14.

-Original Message- From: randy tijerina
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:25 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Updating java

friends, i'm having a little trouble and it's annoying me.
there's this ballon that keeps popping up that a new versin of  java
is available.
i can't get to that thing.
I'm using windows 7 by the way.
what's the best way to update it?


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Re: [Blind-Computing] Defragging and Maintenance for Win/7

2013-04-18 Thread inthaneelf
hi Trish, 

defragmenting more than once a month is as far as I see and know useless
unless your doing a lot of file intensive and altering things on a daily
basis. 

about once a month is more than enough for most regular computer users, just
you need to remember to do it then!

I use a alternative to the windows defragmentation application that is
faster than the windows version called auslogics disk defragmentation:
http://auslogics.com/en/software/disk-defrag

but if you wish to work with and re assign the time of the windows
application, it is in my windows 7 useful hints download off my grab bag
site:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

along with numerous other useful hints for windows 7 use and repair.

or you can follow the tips out of one of it's files, windows 7 tips and
tricks below:
 Setting up scheduled defrags is easy: 
1. Click the Start button, type defrag, and click Disk Defragmenter. 
2. Click Configure schedule. 
3. Choose a time when your computer is turned on, but you are not using it. 
4. Click OK and Close to save your settings 

Your disk will now be defragmented regularly.  

HTH,
inthane
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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 8:12 AM
To: blind computing list
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Defragging and Maintenance for Win/7

Hello,

Where do I find the Defrag for window's 7? I did search and thought I found 
it but it vanished..

I tried going through control panel, found the maintenance button almost 
entered on it, but didn't want to get somewhere that I could do more harm 
than good.

So, do I envoke this maintenace button or not? Also, when I found the 
defrag, it said it was set to defrag at 2/a.m. each morning, well now...I am

in the habit of shutting down my laptop each night, so should I leave it on 
so it can do this defragging?

Thanks for help,

Trish 


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Re: [Blind-Computing] Tracking packages using FedEx?

2013-04-17 Thread inthaneelf
when I have done it, I have ignored the top half of the page although there
are several links that seem to pertain to this, and used the one edit field
system that is about half way down the page, insert the tracking number and
enter on the button/link to track or track it, something real simple like
that and it should show up at the bottom of the resulting page (again you
will need to skip down, but I think the h key works for this, if I am
remembering correctly).

HTH,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Carliss
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 4:02 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Tracking packages using FedEx?

Listers,

Can we track a package using the FedEx website? I've been trying to track a
package using the website and it seems like it can't be done. I would like
to download the fedEx desktop utility, which would automaticly send the
tracking info to an email.  Please someone tell me something. If we can
track packages, at FedEx's website, I must be doing something drasticly
wrong, because I just can't make it work.

Thanks for helping.

 

 

Carliss

 

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Re: [Blind-Computing] E-Books Sent In PDF File

2013-04-06 Thread inthaneelf
hmmm, this is only a notion, but a company called amber made a lot of
converters for unusual cross format transfers. they sort of try to fill in
such types of gaps, you might want to contact them and see if they have
anything now, and/or talk to there support personnel to see if you might put
a bug in there ear to make one. 

the only other thing I can think of is to do screen copies, and then paste
into either a .pdf or a image file type and read it with something like open
book and print it in .txt when converted with it

those are the only things I can think of, get it into a OCR friendly format
and then scan it.

take care and good luck.
inthaneelf


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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 6:31 PM
To: Blind Computing
Subject: [Blind-Computing] E-Books Sent In PDF File

Hi All,

Is there any way to save an E-Book that was downloaded as a PDF file as a 
text file or, an MP3 file?  I have tried everything I know to do, which is 
not much,  haven't any success.  I'm running XP Pro  J13.  All help will 
be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [Blind-Computing] E-Books Sent In PDF File

2013-04-06 Thread inthaneelf
oops, didn't read that right, sorry had two teeth extracted yesterday, and
the pain pills are knocking me flat.

ok, already in .pdf, so open it in acrobat, and see if the save as text
option is available, if not you can scan it in open book, Kurzweil, or any
of the other OCR programs, .pdf is usually one of the many available
openable file types in these programs. and if you look a version or two back
you can usually find abbey fine reader for about 70.00 dollars

take care,
inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 6:31 PM
To: Blind Computing
Subject: [Blind-Computing] E-Books Sent In PDF File

Hi All,

Is there any way to save an E-Book that was downloaded as a PDF file as a 
text file or, an MP3 file?  I have tried everything I know to do, which is 
not much,  haven't any success.  I'm running XP Pro  J13.  All help will 
be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [Blind-Computing] E-Books Sent In PDF File

2013-04-06 Thread inthaneelf
or use a OCR program, sorry had two teeth removed yesterday, one in chunks,
and am loaded up on pain meds and didn't read the message right the first
time. 

a note on OCR software, if you look around a bit you can usually find a copy
of abbey fine reader for about 70.00 dollars, and last time I checked the
new version was 99.95, whereas Kurzweil and open book are running about 7 to
9 hundred dollars more in price.

take care and hope this was useful,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Janet Session
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 1:31 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] E-Books Sent In PDF File

Simpo pdf to word
Am still using free version.

Janet Session
523 Timberlake rd
Upper Darby
Upper Darby Pa 19082
Ph:610 357-9591
Email: jys...@gmail.com
- Original Message - 
From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net
To: Blind Computing blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 9:31 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] E-Books Sent In PDF File


 Hi All,

 Is there any way to save an E-Book that was downloaded as a PDF file as a
 text file or, an MP3 file?  I have tried everything I know to do, which is
 not much,  haven't any success.  I'm running XP Pro  J13.  All help will
 be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
 Take care.
 Mike
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Re: [Blind-Computing] E-Books Sent In PDF File

2013-04-06 Thread inthaneelf
ah, ok its been a long long time since I thought of the amber converters as
I came to know them, thanks, its getting filed for future reference!

inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 4:07 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] E-Books Sent In PDF File

Elf,
The company you are thinking of is:

http://www.processtext.com/index.html

HTH,
Rick Justice

- Original Message - 
From: inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] E-Books Sent In PDF File


hmmm, this is only a notion, but a company called amber made a lot of
converters for unusual cross format transfers. they sort of try to fill in
such types of gaps, you might want to contact them and see if they have
anything now, and/or talk to there support personnel to see if you might put
a bug in there ear to make one.

the only other thing I can think of is to do screen copies, and then paste
into either a .pdf or a image file type and read it with something like open
book and print it in .txt when converted with it

those are the only things I can think of, get it into a OCR friendly format
and then scan it.

take care and good luck.
inthaneelf


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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 6:31 PM
To: Blind Computing
Subject: [Blind-Computing] E-Books Sent In PDF File

Hi All,

Is there any way to save an E-Book that was downloaded as a PDF file as a
text file or, an MP3 file?  I have tried everything I know to do, which is
not much,  haven't any success.  I'm running XP Pro  J13.  All help will
be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [Blind-Computing] E-Books Sent In PDF File

2013-04-06 Thread inthaneelf
I'llsh drhrhrhrhrhrink to'o'o'oo datsh!   hiccup!

have a good one
smelf, no, delph, nono, melf, oh heck, the three of me
Me, Myself, and I
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 5:03 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] E-Books Sent In PDF File

Hi Elf,

Thank you very much for your input.  I did get it converted using Openbook 

a PDF to text converter.  I used both to see which would convert it to the 
most readable copy.  Neither will read as well as I would like it but, it is

readable.  Thanks again.  We certainly hope your mouth starts feeling 
better!
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: inthaneelf
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] E-Books Sent In PDF File


or use a OCR program, sorry had two teeth removed yesterday, one in chunks,
and am loaded up on pain meds and didn't read the message right the first
time.

a note on OCR software, if you look around a bit you can usually find a copy
of abbey fine reader for about 70.00 dollars, and last time I checked the
new version was 99.95, whereas Kurzweil and open book are running about 7 to
9 hundred dollars more in price.

take care and hope this was useful,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Janet Session
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 1:31 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] E-Books Sent In PDF File

Simpo pdf to word
Am still using free version.

Janet Session
523 Timberlake rd
Upper Darby
Upper Darby Pa 19082
Ph:610 357-9591
Email: jys...@gmail.com
- Original Message - 
From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net
To: Blind Computing blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 9:31 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] E-Books Sent In PDF File


 Hi All,

 Is there any way to save an E-Book that was downloaded as a PDF file as a
 text file or, an MP3 file?  I have tried everything I know to do, which is
 not much,  haven't any success.  I'm running XP Pro  J13.  All help will
 be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
 Take care.
 Mike
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Symantec and JAWS Screen Reader

2013-04-06 Thread inthaneelf
I thank you as well, ha! so they didn't get the bugs out of there products
as they claimed...turkeys! 

inthane
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Angelo DeMarsico
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 8:04 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Symantec and JAWS Screen Reader

Wonderful work! Angelo

-Original Message- 
From: Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 10:20 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Symantec and JAWS Screen Reader

Hello Folks,



This is something spectacular I came across at my work place and thought I
should share it with you guys.



I work on a Windows 7 OS PC with JAWS 14 installed on it. Now, this PC is
behind a corporate firewall and has Symantec protection I believe corporate
edition. When the IT department installed JAWS on this PC there were initial
glitches in installing it and activating it to the full version. Had
something to do with Administrative privilages. Anyhow, this has nothing
with the concern of this email.



I started experiencing iratic behavior from JAWS on applications that were
of my daily use. For example we use Microsoft Communicator 2007 as an
internal communication tool or IM client as some of you may know it as. JAWS
fails to announce the status of my contact in the contacts list, there is
absolutely no clue if the contact is away, in a meeting, busy or just
offline. Then on some web pages it failed to read elements like buttons and
some links. In excel when I switch to the worksheet from another
application, by default the home tab is already selected so I need to press
the escape key before doing anything on the sheet. Sometimes, JAWS would
just get paranoid and start reading arbid text from an application which is
no longer in focus.



This made me get really frustrated and I wrote to Freedom Scientific. They
gave me a work around for my communicator issue, unfortunately it did not
work as expected. I did a little research on the net and found out the
culprit is the Symantec protection software that is blocking JAWS
functionality. Here is what Symantec had to say on their website:



You can create file exceptions for Tamper Protection. You might want to
create a Tamper Protection exception if Tamper Protection interferes with a
known safe application on your client computers. For example, Tamper
Protection might block an assistive technology application.



Source: http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=contentid=HOWTO80927
id=HOWTO80927



Now my question is why does one have to got to go through this extra effort
in adding JAWS or for that matter any other screen reader in the exemption
list of applications in Symantec? Should not they have already figured out
that this will create hinderances to any blind user in a corporate
environment? Why can't Freedom Scientific OR Symantec take some ownership in
creating a more accessible environment for a blind user when it comes to
security.



Lucky for me, I have some technical knowledge to back up my researching
ability, imagine a novice blind computer user, he/she would have to go
through a lot of trouble to demystify this strange behavior of his installed
copy of JAWS. This is of most concern because there is no mention of this
issue being reported by Freedom Scientific on their site. I am going to dig
their forums to further investigate this claim of mine.



Mujtaba Merchant

Bangalore, India

Motivation is what gets you started, habit is what keeps you going. ~ Jim
Rohn



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Re: [Blind-Computing] firefox problems.

2013-04-06 Thread inthaneelf
using a particular version is your choice. 

I do not have version 19, but you should be able to get it from: 
www.oldversions.com

HTH,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Norman King
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 8:54 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] firefox problems.

 

Hi all.

Firefox updated on my work pc this morning.

Now I can't access several critical sites.

Does anybody have a copy of Firefox 19 that they would be willing to upload
to dropbox for me.

As far as I know this is perfectly legal under the Firefox license.

If not I apologize for this message.

Thanks.

 

 

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Re: [Blind-Computing] resistance cable

2013-03-29 Thread inthaneelf
radio shack makes an audio impedance matching cable that will do this, you
just need to add either a set of adapters to utilize two such cables to
maintain the original stereo mix, or adaptive ends to make the mono cable
align up with and work on the stereo plugs of the headphone jack and the
computers mike jack port.

HTH,
inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:34 PM
To: blind computing
Subject: [Blind-Computing] resistance cable

Is there a resistance cable made to use a cd player hooked to your sound
card to transfer the music to the computer? I remember such a cable for
audio use in the late 1960s. I do not remember what impedance would be
required to match for the mic input from an ear phone output.
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with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for the
blind.
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Outlook Express Identity

2013-03-29 Thread inthaneelf
nono, you deleted the server information, which your sister, since she is on
the same server reinstalled.

you need to go into file, manage accounts and select and delete your account


HTH,
inthane
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:51 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Outlook Express Idenity

so ok then, where do you go and delete all info? I went to tools/accounts 
and removed my info from OE, is it showing somewhere else?
I had only one email account for that pc. Hmmm, wonder if the service tecks 
when they upgraded my cable and internet and phone could have done something

somewhere? I used only IE but for browsing not for emails.
Their modem has been returned. So shouldn't the desktop be free of any of 
their settings, I did not install any of their proprietary software ever.

In fact, if I forgot and accidently opened OE on the desktop, it always 
popped up to install an account. I didn't remove the OE software since 
knowing she wanted to use it for her email client, just like I said, I 
removed the email account.
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Outlook Express Idenity


Hi Trish,
Can't say for sure, since I don't know exactly what was done, but it sounds
to me
like everything was not completely removed.
If someone had access to the machine, probably wouldn't take much to
straighten it out,
since important information can easily be lost from her to you to the list.

Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: Trish trishzoellers-sc...@austin.rr.com
To: blind computing list blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Outlook Express Idenity


I have a question regarding OE settings. I recently gave my sister my xp
desktop, which I had used OE on it.
So, for over a year now, I have used my laptop and window's mail for win/7.
I stopped using OE and in fact deleted my account from it.
Now my sister puts in her email info password stuff, but when she sends an
email, it shows my old one instead of hers, that is just the craziest thing
I've ever heard.
We both had used and she still uses, TX.rr.com so they have checked and
changed the settings as well as the idenity and have added her's, but when
they do, then all her emails vanish.
So, like can yall shed some light here what needs to be done to allow her
email settings to work?

Thanks,

Trish


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Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music files and other files to A USB Flash Drive?

2013-03-20 Thread inthaneelf
yes and I already admitted that I was wrong, 

back! off!

inthane
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Redding
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 3:57 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic filesand
otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?

wrong
- Original Message -
From: inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic files and
otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?


 ok, I think I have an answer for you,

 by digital player, are you talking about the talking book digital player
 from the congressional library? if not who's player are you using? and how
 old is it.

 if you are talking about the congressional digital player than your out of
 luck, it plays CL book files and only CL book files, nothing else.

 inthaneelf
 -Original Message-
 From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Mike B.
 Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:19 PM
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic filesand
 otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?

 Hi Rosario,

 I'm sorry but, I can't answer this for you.  Hopefully someone that uses a
 digital player will be able to answer this question.
 Take care.
 Mike
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 - Original Message -
 From: Rosario Perez
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand
 otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?


 Hi Mike, I created  a folder and copyed some of my music files but, when I
 tried to play them on my digital player, I couldn't do it. I can play them
 on my computer but not on the digital player. What can be wrong?


 Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not
something
 you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship,
 you really haven't learned anything.

 -Original Message-
 From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Mike B.
 Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:43 AM
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand
 otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?

 Hi Rosario,

 Below is a similar question about creating folders in Windows7  2 answers
 that will give more detailed information for your question:
 From: dave Bond
 I'm having trouble creating new folders on our Win 7 computer. I've got
some
 mp3 files I want to store there, and I was able to create a folder a week
or
 so ago, but couldn't find it today. So I tried creating another one, but
 couldn't seem to do it the same way.

 I guess I need to have a better understanding of where and how to create
new
 folders. I thought I needed to open Libraries, and create them there.
 Today, I saw the usual folders--documents, music, video, and something
else,
 but as I stated earlier, I couldn't seem to create a new folder. Ideally,
 I'd like to have an Audio folder under the Libraries folder.

 Any clarification much appreciated.

 Dave

 From: Steve
 Easiest way is to just do as you always did for Xp.

 You can go to the directory where you want to create the folder by
browsing
 from Windows Explorer which you open with control-E.  Hit alt-f for file,
w
 for the new submenu, and arrow to folder.

 The library is there for a centralized spot where you can find all the
files
 of a given type.  Each library type, for pictures, documents, music etc.
has
 its own default location.  However, the library actually just points to
the
 location of the various files of that type; in other words, you could have
 several spots where you have pictures - on your documents folder under
 mypictures, possibly at some location on-line like a facebook album, etc.
 and you could have the pictures library point to all those pics no matter
 where they are.

 If you open the library for my music, you can see or change the default
 location.  But, you don't need to store your mp3's there.  You can store
 them in your default music folder under documents, username, mymusic I
think
 it is called.
 Steve

 From: Gene
 You can make folders in libraries or you can make folders while working
 directly in drives just as you did in Windows XP.  If you create a folder
in
 a library, it will be created in a default location.  You are still
creating
 folders on the hard drive but you are doing so from inside of a library.
 You can change the location where folders are made.  A library allows you
to
 see all files of a certain kind regardless of where they are on your
 computer.  You can add folders that you want to be shown in libraries or
 remove folders.

 If you want detailed information about Libraries, you can probably find it
 in Cathy anne Murtha's Windows 7

Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic files and other files to A USB Flash Drive?

2013-03-18 Thread inthaneelf
ok, I think I have an answer for you,

by digital player, are you talking about the talking book digital player
from the congressional library? if not who's player are you using? and how
old is it.

if you are talking about the congressional digital player than your out of
luck, it plays CL book files and only CL book files, nothing else.

inthaneelf
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:19 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic filesand
otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?

Hi Rosario,

I'm sorry but, I can't answer this for you.  Hopefully someone that uses a 
digital player will be able to answer this question.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Rosario Perez
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand 
otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?


Hi Mike, I created  a folder and copyed some of my music files but, when I
tried to play them on my digital player, I couldn't do it. I can play them
on my computer but not on the digital player. What can be wrong?


Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something
you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship,
you really haven't learned anything.

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:43 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand
otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?

Hi Rosario,

Below is a similar question about creating folders in Windows7  2 answers
that will give more detailed information for your question:
From: dave Bond
I'm having trouble creating new folders on our Win 7 computer. I've got some
mp3 files I want to store there, and I was able to create a folder a week or
so ago, but couldn't find it today. So I tried creating another one, but
couldn't seem to do it the same way.

I guess I need to have a better understanding of where and how to create new
folders. I thought I needed to open Libraries, and create them there.
Today, I saw the usual folders--documents, music, video, and something else,
but as I stated earlier, I couldn't seem to create a new folder. Ideally,
I'd like to have an Audio folder under the Libraries folder.

Any clarification much appreciated.

Dave

From: Steve
Easiest way is to just do as you always did for Xp.

You can go to the directory where you want to create the folder by browsing
from Windows Explorer which you open with control-E.  Hit alt-f for file, w
for the new submenu, and arrow to folder.

The library is there for a centralized spot where you can find all the files
of a given type.  Each library type, for pictures, documents, music etc. has
its own default location.  However, the library actually just points to the
location of the various files of that type; in other words, you could have
several spots where you have pictures - on your documents folder under
mypictures, possibly at some location on-line like a facebook album, etc.
and you could have the pictures library point to all those pics no matter
where they are.

If you open the library for my music, you can see or change the default
location.  But, you don't need to store your mp3's there.  You can store
them in your default music folder under documents, username, mymusic I think
it is called.
Steve

From: Gene
You can make folders in libraries or you can make folders while working
directly in drives just as you did in Windows XP.  If you create a folder in
a library, it will be created in a default location.  You are still creating
folders on the hard drive but you are doing so from inside of a library.
You can change the location where folders are made.  A library allows you to
see all files of a certain kind regardless of where they are on your
computer.  You can add folders that you want to be shown in libraries or
remove folders.

If you want detailed information about Libraries, you can probably find it
in Cathy anne Murtha's Windows 7 book available as a free download from her
site. You can also probably find good or reasonably good discussions of
Libraries by looking up information on the Internet.

If you don't want to work with Libraries, you can open drives and create
folders just as you did in XP.
The procedure for creating folders is identical to that in XP.  You can open
the c drive or any drive from the run dialog, or by having My Computer show
on the desktop and opening it from there or by using Windows Explorer.  You
can also show your My Documents folder on the desktop.  You can have My
Computer and My Documents, as well as other items you may want to show on
the Desktop by customizing it.  The procedure

Re: [Blind-Computing] How do Isaveand copymusic filesand otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?

2013-03-18 Thread inthaneelf
hmmm, odd, I was told the exact opposite, but I never checked so I could be
wrong.

interesting
I stand corrected,
elf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pedro Romero
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:16 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do Isaveand copymusic filesand otherfiles
to A USB Flash Drive?

Hi Rosario,
I don't have a digital Library player but a friend of mine who does have 
one, tells me that those players can only play mp3 music files and only if 
they are on a memory stick or a library of congress digital cartridge.

Pete 


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Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I saveandcopymusic filesand otherfilesto A USB Flash Drive?

2013-03-18 Thread inthaneelf
if you get nothing I can try it as he laid it out, with windows 7 myself
(just in case, sometimes things do for me what they will not for others) and
with an XP machine (still got two of these around)

elf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 5:03 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I saveandcopymusic filesand
otherfilesto A USB Flash Drive?

I placed some audio files both wave and MP3 on an NLS cartridge both in the
root and in a folder and mine won't play them at all. 

Next I can try with a standard flash drive and see what happens which
probably is the preferred method, but I thought it was worth a try. 


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:34 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I saveandcopymusic filesand otherfiles
to A USB Flash Drive?

If I understand this thread correctly the question is playing music on an
NLS player. If so then give me a few minutes and I will investigate. I have
had such an animal for a few months already but never considered music, stay
tuned for further developments. 


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 3:19 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic filesand
otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?

Hi Rosario,

I'm sorry but, I can't answer this for you.  Hopefully someone that uses a
digital player will be able to answer this question.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message -
From: Rosario Perez
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand
otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?


Hi Mike, I created  a folder and copyed some of my music files but, when I
tried to play them on my digital player, I couldn't do it. I can play them
on my computer but not on the digital player. What can be wrong?


Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something
you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship,
you really haven't learned anything.

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:43 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand
otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?

Hi Rosario,

Below is a similar question about creating folders in Windows7  2 answers
that will give more detailed information for your question:
From: dave Bond
I'm having trouble creating new folders on our Win 7 computer. I've got some
mp3 files I want to store there, and I was able to create a folder a week or
so ago, but couldn't find it today. So I tried creating another one, but
couldn't seem to do it the same way.

I guess I need to have a better understanding of where and how to create new
folders. I thought I needed to open Libraries, and create them there.
Today, I saw the usual folders--documents, music, video, and something else,
but as I stated earlier, I couldn't seem to create a new folder. Ideally,
I'd like to have an Audio folder under the Libraries folder.

Any clarification much appreciated.

Dave

From: Steve
Easiest way is to just do as you always did for Xp.

You can go to the directory where you want to create the folder by browsing
from Windows Explorer which you open with control-E.  Hit alt-f for file, w
for the new submenu, and arrow to folder.

The library is there for a centralized spot where you can find all the files
of a given type.  Each library type, for pictures, documents, music etc. has
its own default location.  However, the library actually just points to the
location of the various files of that type; in other words, you could have
several spots where you have pictures - on your documents folder under
mypictures, possibly at some location on-line like a facebook album, etc.
and you could have the pictures library point to all those pics no matter
where they are.

If you open the library for my music, you can see or change the default
location.  But, you don't need to store your mp3's there.  You can store
them in your default music folder under documents, username, mymusic I think
it is called.
Steve

From: Gene
You can make folders in libraries or you can make folders while working
directly in drives just as you did in Windows XP.  If you create a 

[Blind-Computing] !RE: How do Isaveandcopymusic filesand otherfilesto A USB Flash Drive?

2013-03-18 Thread inthaneelf
interesting

I have both an advanced player and the other one (I guess you would call it
a basic player) here, I will try this on both of my units without the
folders myself

a basic player probably would have a problem with the files being in a
folder, or I would think so. 

actually, I'll put one in a folder and one out that should tell the tale

inthane, 
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 5:24 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do Isaveandcopymusic filesand
otherfilesto A USB Flash Drive?

After placing a folder of wave files and a folder of MP3 files on a standard
flash drive and first removing the NLS cartridge  from the player I had no
problems at all listening to both types of music. In conclusion it works
fine here.


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:03 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I saveandcopymusic filesand
otherfilesto A USB Flash Drive?

I placed some audio files both wave and MP3 on an NLS cartridge both in the
root and in a folder and mine won't play them at all. 

Next I can try with a standard flash drive and see what happens which
probably is the preferred method, but I thought it was worth a try. 


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:34 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I saveandcopymusic filesand otherfiles
to A USB Flash Drive?

If I understand this thread correctly the question is playing music on an
NLS player. If so then give me a few minutes and I will investigate. I have
had such an animal for a few months already but never considered music, stay
tuned for further developments. 


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 3:19 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic filesand
otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?

Hi Rosario,

I'm sorry but, I can't answer this for you.  Hopefully someone that uses a
digital player will be able to answer this question.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message -
From: Rosario Perez
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand
otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?


Hi Mike, I created  a folder and copyed some of my music files but, when I
tried to play them on my digital player, I couldn't do it. I can play them
on my computer but not on the digital player. What can be wrong?


Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something
you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship,
you really haven't learned anything.

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:43 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand
otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?

Hi Rosario,

Below is a similar question about creating folders in Windows7  2 answers
that will give more detailed information for your question:
From: dave Bond
I'm having trouble creating new folders on our Win 7 computer. I've got some
mp3 files I want to store there, and I was able to create a folder a week or
so ago, but couldn't find it today. So I tried creating another one, but
couldn't seem to do it the same way.

I guess I need to have a better understanding of where and how to create new
folders. I thought I needed to open Libraries, and create them there.
Today, I saw the usual folders--documents, music, video, and something else,
but as I stated earlier, I couldn't seem to create a new folder. Ideally,
I'd like to have an Audio folder under the Libraries folder.

Any clarification much appreciated.

Dave

From: Steve
Easiest way is to just do as you always did for Xp.

You can go to the directory where you want to create the folder by browsing
from Windows Explorer which you open with control-E.  Hit alt-f for file, w
for the new submenu, and arrow to folder.

The library is there for a centralized spot where you can find all the files
of a given type.  Each library type, for pictures, 

Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand other files to A USB Flash Drive?

2013-03-18 Thread inthaneelf
well we live and learn, as you know if you have kept opening my responses I
have just found out about this possibility

I will let  you know if I find out about any other items that effect it

inthaneelf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rosario Perez
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 10:07 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic filesand other
files to A USB Flash Drive?

Yes, I am talking about the library player. Do you know why I was able to
play them  when I used Windows XP? 

Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something
you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship,
you really haven't learned anything.


-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:56 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic files and other
files to A USB Flash Drive?

ok, I think I have an answer for you,

by digital player, are you talking about the talking book digital player
from the congressional library? if not who's player are you using? and how
old is it.

if you are talking about the congressional digital player than your out of
luck, it plays CL book files and only CL book files, nothing else.

inthaneelf
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:19 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save andcopymusic filesand
otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?

Hi Rosario,

I'm sorry but, I can't answer this for you.  Hopefully someone that uses a
digital player will be able to answer this question.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message -
From: Rosario Perez
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copymusic filesand
otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?


Hi Mike, I created  a folder and copyed some of my music files but, when I
tried to play them on my digital player, I couldn't do it. I can play them
on my computer but not on the digital player. What can be wrong?


Friendship is the hardest thing in the world to explain. It's not something
you learn in school. But if you haven't learned the meaning of friendship,
you really haven't learned anything.

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:43 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] How do I save and copy music filesand
otherfiles to A USB Flash Drive?

Hi Rosario,

Below is a similar question about creating folders in Windows7  2 answers
that will give more detailed information for your question:
From: dave Bond
I'm having trouble creating new folders on our Win 7 computer. I've got some
mp3 files I want to store there, and I was able to create a folder a week or
so ago, but couldn't find it today. So I tried creating another one, but
couldn't seem to do it the same way.

I guess I need to have a better understanding of where and how to create new
folders. I thought I needed to open Libraries, and create them there.
Today, I saw the usual folders--documents, music, video, and something else,
but as I stated earlier, I couldn't seem to create a new folder. Ideally,
I'd like to have an Audio folder under the Libraries folder.

Any clarification much appreciated.

Dave

From: Steve
Easiest way is to just do as you always did for Xp.

You can go to the directory where you want to create the folder by browsing
from Windows Explorer which you open with control-E.  Hit alt-f for file, w
for the new submenu, and arrow to folder.

The library is there for a centralized spot where you can find all the files
of a given type.  Each library type, for pictures, documents, music etc. has
its own default location.  However, the library actually just points to the
location of the various files of that type; in other words, you could have
several spots where you have pictures - on your documents folder under
mypictures, possibly at some location on-line like a facebook album, etc.
and you could have the pictures library point to all those pics no matter
where they are.

If you open the library for my music, you can see or change the default
location.  But, you don't need to store your mp3's there.  You can store
them in your default music folder under documents, username, mymusic I think
it is called.
Steve

From: Gene
You can make folders in libraries or you can make folders while working
directly in drives just as you did in Windows XP.  If you create a folder in
a library, it will be created in a default location.  You are still creating
folders

Re: [Blind-Computing] Using Windows XP, trying to email shortcut files with Outlook2007

2013-03-13 Thread inthaneelf
hmmm, I used to mail a application and a set of pre made shortcuts to it in
two zip files in a self-extracting zip file, done with WinZip and never had
a problem with it

I also just tested making and sending shortcuts and in a WinZip zip file it
was movable while I couldn't even make a 7zip file with the shortcut, it
refused to do the job. 

guess I just found my first flaw with 7zip

HTH,
inthane



-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Paul Magill
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:01 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Using Windows XP,trying to email shortcut files
with Outlook2007

Hi All,

I am trying to email some shortcut files, copied from the Windows XP start 
menu, but Outlook2007 puts up a message referring to the files the shortcut 
files point to, not the shortcuts themselves.

That is, Outlook is trying to attach to the email, the target of the 
shortcuts, not the shortcuts them self.

I tried using F2 to rename the files by adding a .TXT extension, but Outlook

still recognises them as shortcuts,  looks for the target files.

 Is there any way I can do this, or is it just not possible?

All advise much appreciated,
Paul from Australia


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Re: [Blind-Computing] sometimes jaws goes in mute

2013-03-11 Thread inthaneelf
another thought for you, 

turn on narrator to see what is going on when jaws goes mute? 

its there, and though a bit cumbersome can let you know what is going on,
error messages and the like!

HTH,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mark Torgerson
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 7:33 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] sometimes jaws goes in mute

Hi
 It is just a guess, but perhaps one of the programs you are using at 
work accidentally mutes JAWS. Perhaps changing the short cut key for muting 
and unmuting JAWS might help?

God bless,
Mark
God loves You!
My personal website:
http://www.christiantraditions.info
-Original Message- 
From: TS Negi
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 5:28 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] sometimes jaws goes in mute

Hi friends, while working, sometimes jaws goes in mute and that time 
it's worst thing for me. any solution please!
Thanks
TS Negi
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Re: [Blind-Computing] excel printing

2013-02-27 Thread inthaneelf
hi, 

I at one time was fully sighted, and formatting is still difficult for me
even having seen most of the things that can be done!

understanding some things about the program helps, while other things are
needed, but which of the choices are needed depends on the people your
working with and for.

a good way to get experience with what can! be done is to take a class at a
local college or junior college in, well either excel, or most often they
have a computer 101 class, which will have an introduction to the4 basic
office tools, word, excel, PowerPoint and access.

if you talk with the instructor, before the class starts and take it as a
C/NC ( credit/no credit, meaning not for a grade but only for passing it and
the points toward a college degree) and tell them what your working on, many
will be willing to work with you as much as they can (good to ask the school
your paying to show you this for some tutor, and disabled students center
help as well!)

if you have a friend at work, you can ask them about what they think you
should do and I can probably tell you how to set it up

the big thing is a two fold project, one find out what they want, and then
find out how to create it

you can contact me off list for more information, 

another hint, if you do not change anything, you have a total of about 15
letters per cell and 4 cells across the page before things start getting out
of shape, that's 60 symbols in the whole row of 4 cells, of information, if
you do not alter them with the formatting menu, anything more and we need to
start changing things. 

regards,
inthaneelf
inthane...@roadrunner.com
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:54 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] excel printing

Hello,

This is kind of difficult to answer for any blind computer user. You might
want to look at the page layout of your excel sheet. If it's portrait it
means it's vertical in layout. If it's landscape, it's horizontal in layout.
Printing a worksheet also depends on how many columns you have filled in the
sheet, there is a difference on how many cells are actually visible and are
actually there. The key combination Insert + F1 will give you the summary of
the worksheet in focus.

Also under the view menu, you can choose how the worksheet can be seen,
printlayout etc. While printing you are given a dialog box that allows one
to print the current page or selected page like 1 to 3 etc. Users are also
given the option to print the selected area, for example if you have
selected cells a1:f112 all the matter in those selected cells will be
printed.

Note: Each worksheet has gridlines visible to the user, it represents cells
on the worksheet. But while printing these gridlines are not printed unless
you have provided the cells with a thin grid line border. Giving your
printout a table like look.

The safest suggestion I can offer here is take a sighted friend with you and
practice the art of printing again and again. I sincerely apologize for not
being of any ground breaking help but this is the best I can do at this
point in time.

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of romance's prince
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 4:45 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] excel printing

hello friends
am totally blind, use excel in my work, and need to print reports and
applications from 
excel, the problem am facing that sighted people always send me complains
that sheet not 
formatted good and not fine in printing.
please, need the steps which help me to format excellent sheet which will be
printed on A4 
paper.
am using jaws, excel 2003.
  many thanks
beero



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Re: [Blind-Computing] Jaws announcing desktop icons

2013-02-25 Thread inthaneelf
jaws, insert v for verbosity settings, and graphics set to all instead of
the standard marked, maybe?

inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Adams
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 6:09 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Jaws announcing desktop icons

Yes, you are right.  Jaws just started this recently and I have looked all
over and I can't find how to turn this off.  I have another computer and it
is not doing it.  It has to be some simple setting so maybe I'll find it.

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:39 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Jaws announcing desktop icons

I'm pretty sure he means he's simply hitting the icon to open it. am I
right fred?

-Original Message-
From: Mike W B
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 6:19 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Jaws announcing desktop icons

Hi Fred,

When you say, press the icon button, what do you mean by, icon button?
This is a key I'm not familiar with.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Fred Adams
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Jaws announcing desktop icons


No, I need to give you a hard slap.  It is all of the icons on the desk
top.   Thanks much,

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:39 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Jaws announcing desktop icons

Hi Fred,

Is this the only icon that reads, shortcut?  If so, highlight the, Internet
shortcut, press the F2 key for editing, so you can edit this icon to have
Jaws read it exactly the way you want.  I hope I'm understanding your
question correctly.  If not , a hard slap will bring me around!  LOL,
hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Fred Adams
To: Jaws-users
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:32 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Jaws announcing desktop icons


I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws and when I am the desktop and
press icon button, jaws announces the icon plus internet shortcut.  Is
there anyway I can get jaws to announce only the icon but not say internet
shortcut?  Hopefully, I have made myself clear.  Thanks much,


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Re: [Blind-Computing] Accessing My Router

2013-02-20 Thread inthaneelf
thanks for reminding me of this, 

I knew it, but it was a tip of the tongue and back of the mind thing

refreshers are always a good thing!
elf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 6:30 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Accessing My Router

Hi Again Mark,

This is what I learned from 1 of my best friends about how to access a 
router since I typed to you last:

1. type, C M D, into the run dialogue using lower case letters  press enter

to open the command prompt.
2. Now, type, ipconfig,  press enter.  That's I P C O N F I G.
3. Now, route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor, press page up,  arrow down 
1 line at a time until you hear,
Default gateway  the numbers next to, Default Gateway will be your IP 
address.

Default Gateway 192.168.1.1

The numbers including the points is your Router IP address.

4. Press the PC cursor key to go back to the PC cursor  type, exit,  press

enter to exit the command prompt.
5. When you put your IP address into the run dialogue you need to put, 
http://, in front of the IP address.  So, this is what it would look like in

the run dialogue:

http://192.168.1.1

6. Type, http://192.168.1.1,
into the Run Dialogue  press enter.  Now, tab to the password edit field, 
type in your password, tab to okay,  press enter.  You will now be in your 
router
settings.

The IP address for your or anyone elses router might be different than the 1

above but, look for Default Gateway to find your IP address.

Take care.
Mike
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Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Mark Torgerson
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Accessing My Router


Hi
 I could be wrong, but the only way I know of to be completely certain
of getting the router brand is to ask a sighted person. Once you have that
you can search the web for the IP addresses used by the manufactorer.
Sometimes the mottle number is not clear even to a sighted person. One trick
to find the brand of router is: if you have your wireless on your router
turned on, look in your wireless connection. If it is lleft in the basic
format, it will say something like 2wire 482. Where 2wire is the brand and
482 is the mottle number. If you are lucky and are able to find this
information under the wireless connection. it makes searching for the IP
address faster.
 I hope this helps.



God bless,
Mark, Redeemer Secretary
God loves You!
http://www.christiantraditions.info
-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:36 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Accessing My Router

Hi Mark,

Thank you very much for your reply.  I thought I had my router name  model#
saved somewhere but, I don't!  I have all my modem info saved but, that
doesn't do me any good at the moment.  Is there somewhere in the computer
that will tell me what brand the router is?  I've looked in the device
manager  in the control panel but, I'm not sure if I looked in the correct
places.  I'm running XP Pro, I forgot to mention this in my original post.
Thanks again.
Take care.
Mike
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From: Mark Torgerson
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Accessing My Router


Hi Mike,
 Nomemally, the router has an  IP address that one puts in the address
bar of their web browser. If you know the name and mottle number of your
router, you can usually find the IP address on line. Anyway this should open
what looks like a web page. However, it is actually coming from within your
router. This page usually has all the access to the settings for the router.
One thing I do know from experience is that you may have to try a few
different IP addresses since manuactorers may use several for different
mottles ETC.
 I hope this helps.


God bless,
Mark, Redeemer Secretary
God loves You!
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-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 1:51 PM
To: Blind Computing
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Accessing My Router

Hi All,

I've been hearing a lot about Plug  Play needing to be turned off in the
router to help prevent someone from accessing it, how do I open the router
to check this setting?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thank you all
very much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Windows 7 Tutorials Needed

2013-02-18 Thread inthaneelf
hi,

both helpful hints and tutorials can be downloaded in zipped files from my
grab bag website:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com

take care,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 7:13 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Windows 7 Tutorials Needed

Hello Folks,

 

I write to you today seeking assistance on Windows 7.

 

I recently transitioned to Windows 7  from XP at work. Although I can manage
most of the tasks on this OS, I find it challenging understanding some
areas, like when saving a file how to quickly navigate in the save as dialog
box. In XP if I used a  shortcut key ALT + I in that dialog box I would be
taken to the drop down menu to choose the location or drive where I wish to
save the file. But this shortcut does not work in Windows 7, I have to use
TAB or SHIFT TAB to navigate the dialog box, kind of annoying and time
consuming.

 

Does anyone have online resources/ tutorials to help me learn Windows 7
faster? If yes, please share any tips and tricks for the same. Also kindly
advice if there are any basic settings in the OS I need to change to help
better performance on the PC. The Ease of Access center isn't of much help
in trying to get the OS, Desktop, taskbar and start menu to behave like how
it was in XP.

 

Much appreciated!

 

Mujtaba Merchant

Bangalore, India

Motivation is what gets you started. Habit is what keeps you going. ~Jim Ryu

 

 

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Winamp not playing tracks automatically

2013-02-18 Thread inthaneelf
sometimes the only fix for Winamp troubles is to completely remove and
replace Winamp, there is a .ini file that Winamp makes in the {user name,
app data} folder that controls win amps initial setup and interactions. and
replacing this with a new one (by deleting it and then filling out the first
use info again) and/or replacing it with a saved unused version of the file
(by making a copy and installing it over the top of the original in use one)
can fix things as well, but you need an uncorrupted copy of the file to do
the second one and/or to fill out the info again if you do the first.

let me know if you decide to try removing the file and I'll hunt up the path
to it for you.

inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Boodram
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 7:16 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Winamp not playing tracks automatically

It use too but not sure what went wrong. I would really be happy if I could 
find a fix for this problem.

Thanks for trying to help me.
- Original Message - 
From: Mujtaba Merchant mujta...@gmail.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Winamp not playing tracks automatically


 Hello Steve,

 When you select all the audio files by pressing the key combination 
 Control
 + A, just right click, i.e. use the application key and select the option
 Enqueue in Winamp and hit enter, this way all the selected files will be
 loaded in the winamp play list editor. Otherwise I can't see a reason why
 you just can't hit enter and all the files selected play in winamp, might
 have to investigate in detail.

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 From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Steve Boodram
 Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 5:57 AM
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [Blind-Computing] Winamp not playing tracks automatically

 Hello friends, greetings again.

 Here I am with another problem, this time of my own making.

 Each time I select multiple tracks in Winamm it will play the first track 
 in
 the selection but will not play the other tracks in the list.

 Now what have I done again?
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Download for Microsoft WLM

2013-02-17 Thread inthaneelf
I have outlook 2003, Eudora, thunderbird and windows live mail 2009 on my
win 7 with jaws 13 computer and there has been no logistics problems, except
for Eudora keeping asking me if I want it to be the default mail client, lol

none of them interfere otherwise with each other, although I have been
moving most accounts over to wlm due to it working must more intuitively for
me.

HTH,
inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Adams
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:38 AM
To: Jaws-users
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Download for microsoft WLM

I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws.  I would appreciate it if
someone would send me the direct download for microsoft WLM.I have
looked all over but I can't find the down load for WLM. Also, I would
appreciate any turtorial info.  Can I keep outlook 2010 and WLM on the same
computer?  Thanks much

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Re: [Blind-Computing] FYI, Blind-Computing.com

2013-02-16 Thread inthaneelf
in fact would you like to sell the site name? 

inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 2:25 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] FYI, Blind-Computing.com

Effective March 01, 2013:

http://www.blind-computing.com

will cease to exist.
I am terminating the site due to changes in my life.
I would like to say, Thank You, to all who have supported it over the past

6 years.
Dave and I have worked together over the years on both websites,
and much of the content on the site can also be found at:

http://www.jaws-users.com

David Ferrin will have access to that which is different, and it will be up 
to him
as to whether or not it will find it's way to his site.
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Re: [Blind-Computing] FYI, Blind-Computing.com

2013-02-16 Thread inthaneelf
is there anything you would like to put somewhere that isn't yet? my grab
bag site still has space on it

inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 2:25 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] FYI, Blind-Computing.com

Effective March 01, 2013:

http://www.blind-computing.com

will cease to exist.
I am terminating the site due to changes in my life.
I would like to say, Thank You, to all who have supported it over the past

6 years.
Dave and I have worked together over the years on both websites,
and much of the content on the site can also be found at:

http://www.jaws-users.com

David Ferrin will have access to that which is different, and it will be up 
to him
as to whether or not it will find it's way to his site.
This change will not have any affect on the blind-computing mailing list.

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Re: [Blind-Computing] cd burning software

2013-02-12 Thread inthaneelf
I sent you a second one!

what happened?

inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:46 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] cd burning software

  I've been trying to find a cd burning software that a blind, pc novice
could navigate, but have had difficulty in finding one that I can operate. I
don't have a sighted person available to me that can help me with the steps,
so if there's a person out there, like myself, who has downloaded a program,
and has no problem operating the program, please get back to me. I use jaws
12, on a windows 7 os  
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Re: [Blind-Computing] question about eBay page

2013-02-12 Thread inthaneelf
I think it may be your use of NVDA sadly

I am not having any of these problems with Firefox or I.E.9 but I am on a
win 7 machine with jaws 13 as its screen reader

sorry,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eleni Vamvakari
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 6:17 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question about eBay page

My problem with Ebay is that they got rid of the combo box which
allows us to sort things.  Furthermore, the areas which used to be
links, such as for location, buy it now only, and the various
categories which show up when I search for something, are no longer
read as links, but as some kind of inaccessible links.  I also can't
use the text boxes for price.  They give me their own range, and I
can't change them.  This has been going on for over a month now.  It
used to work with Firefox, then stopped.  So I used Internet Explorer.
 But that doesn't work now, and neither does Comet Bird.  About three
days ago, I discovered that I was now able to use the price text
boxes, but I haven't tried the other things.  This happened on
multiple computers, so I'm sure it's not a virus.  I'm using Windows
XP and the latest version of NVDA.  When I mentioned this to other
blind people, none of them had this problem.  What is going on here
and has it been fixed?  Is there a way to get the regular settings
back?

On 10/02/2013, inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 it seems that they have again enlarged the prior searches area of the
page,
 but I ran a quick search and still have only the slightest of problems,
 mainly not being able to just skip it all to get to the search results,
 but could easily skip down through the areas with my jaws h key jumping
 ability in my browser (I.E. 9).

 and I'm fairly sure that if you approached them nicely about it they would
 be willing to consider fixing that as well.

 there not blind-insensitive there, in fact they go through extensive
 testing
 phases so we can comment on troubles screen reader and magnifier users are
 having. I have seen them fix a problem I was having a long time back in
 about a week... so I know they are not unsympathetic to our needs, but you
 must keep in mind that they have other needs to fill as well, including
 keeping things profitable so they can keep running the place!

 take care,
 inthane

 -Original Message-
 From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of t.
 Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 6:00 AM
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [Blind-Computing] question about ebay page

   for the past week, I've noticed a change in the way the ebay page reads
 out. does anyone know if the page format or layout has changed? I use ie
8,
 and windows 7
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Re: [Blind-Computing] question about eBay page

2013-02-10 Thread inthaneelf
it seems that they have again enlarged the prior searches area of the page,
but I ran a quick search and still have only the slightest of problems,
mainly not being able to just skip it all to get to the search results,
but could easily skip down through the areas with my jaws h key jumping
ability in my browser (I.E. 9).  

and I'm fairly sure that if you approached them nicely about it they would
be willing to consider fixing that as well.

there not blind-insensitive there, in fact they go through extensive testing
phases so we can comment on troubles screen reader and magnifier users are
having. I have seen them fix a problem I was having a long time back in
about a week... so I know they are not unsympathetic to our needs, but you
must keep in mind that they have other needs to fill as well, including
keeping things profitable so they can keep running the place!

take care,
inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of t.
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 6:00 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] question about ebay page

  for the past week, I've noticed a change in the way the ebay page reads
out. does anyone know if the page format or layout has changed? I use ie 8,
and windows 7
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Network Attached Storage RAID.

2013-02-08 Thread inthaneelf
ok, by the information your giving you do not want a nas (network...
attached storage, I.E. Ethernet) but a multi drive external drive unit,
there are three major things, one you can get a robo-drive, its a 4 drive
3.5 inch drive unit that can use various different raid like storage methods
including ones that include striping so that if a drive goes out in the unit
you can plug in a replacement drive and rebuild the lost drive from data in
the stripes. the nice thing about the robo-drive (available from various
vendors, tiger direct is one of them, although there out here in California
not that far from me so I could go get one directly) is that it doesn't
matter the size of the drive, if you have to old HD's  of the G-bite
variety, and you buy 2 new t-bite drives and run out of cash, it will take
them all and integrate them into your super external drive

if later you get a sale and get 2 more T-bite drives, you can literally pull
out a drive and rebuild it on a new drive with the striping

and the robo-drive is a normally USB attached unit, you have to buy a
modular adapter to use it as a NAS unit.

a second thing to think on is I know there are two HD external drive units
for 2.5 in drives, and there may be units which handle three or more
available (been a while since I really looked). so you could make a nice
sized portable drive with those. 


3. as far as brands, I'd stay with the biggies, or companies like Sabrent
(which I know make quality cases I use them for my hand made drives), 

for raid units, I would stay with the better known units, and/or talk to the
folks at newegg.com about them, I have little experience with them and its
been years so I'm totally out of date on the topic.

one thing I have learned, the most expensive are generally good, the middle
priced one's will have a few good and a few not so good companies, but there
not going to get a decent rep if there selling Junkers, and low end is just
that. something is making them that much less expensive, what might it be? 

HTH,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Shadow Systems
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 9:50 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Network Attached Storage  RAID.

Hello Everyone.

I am currently researching my options for purchasing a Network Attached
Storage (NAS) box, and have some questions involving them.

My Primary question is, are there any Manufacturers, Brands, Models, etc
that I should stay away from?
That I should place in higher contention than the others?
Why, and please cite all relevant sources so that I can continue researching
along those provided avenues.

A secondary, but not unrelated question, is which Redundant Array of
Independant Disks (RAID) controllers (again, Manufacturer, Brand, Models,
etc) should I avoid or gravitate towards? And again, please cite all
relevant sources so I can continue researching.
Are there any Blind Accessable Software RAID programs out there? If so,
which ones work  which ones deserve to be stomped into a wood chipper 
turned into mulch with extreme prejudice?

I'm going to be using the NAS with my laptop, so installing a physical RAID
controller card isn't an option, and I'd prefer if the box had either a USB
or E-SATA connection to the laptop.
(WiFi doesn't like me  tends to scramble itself due to my magnetic
personality. *Chortle*)
Another reason to prefer the physical connection is that I'm not fond of
having to File Transfer Protocol (FTP) my own files across my sluggish
network to my NAS box.
It would take too long to FTP multiple TeraBytes of data to the NAS, when I
could just plug in the USB or E-SATA cable from the NAS to my laptop, and
move them via Windows File Explorer like I would any other files.
Since I'm connected via Cable Modem (no Wireless), the RJ45 jack of the
laptop is already in use, so I can't connect it that way.

Thank you for the help, and any assistance is appreciated.
-ShadowSystems


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Re: [Blind-Computing] Powered Hub Drivers

2013-02-04 Thread inthaneelf
have you googled for drivers, sometimes you find them in the darnedest
places due to problems just like this. 

the other thing to think on is resetting/restoring the computer back to when
it did work? then I know of a 20 dollar or so application that should be
able to find the driver if its in use, and allow you to make a self
extracting reinstall file for it and other drivers of your system. 

any of that sound feasable ?

I can hope,
elf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 1:19 PM
To: Blind Computing
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Powered Hub Drivers

Hi All,

I have a Belkin powered desktop 7 port USB hub, model#: F4U017.  I can't get

it to work with Windows7 64 bit Pro.  I get the unable to install drivers 
error message whenever I plug in the USB cable.  I've tried with the power 
plugged in  not plugged in, with devices plugged into the hub  not plugged

into the hub.  This same unit used to work with Windows7 but, not now!  It 
does work with XP Pro.  This computer is a dual boot system.  I didn't have 
any success checking Belkin's website for drivers but, when it worked last 
the drivers installed automatically.  Does anyone have any advice or other 
avenues to try?  I would really like to use this hub verses the hub I'm 
currently using.  All help would be greatly appreciated  graciously 
accepted!  Thank you all very much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Powered Hub Drivers

2013-02-04 Thread inthaneelf
actually I have herd win XP and 7 mention loading drivers when I plug in one
of my hubs, but generally it has them and the message disappears before I
could have reacted to it.

but, I have noticed that sometimes things disappear from windows 7, and was
thinking along those lines for his hub since he says it worked in the past
for him.

though what his machine is saying about it doesn't sound right, 

hmmm, 

thinking on it and have this red flagged for rework
inthane 
laters,
inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 3:38 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Powered Hub Drivers

Strange, I own 3 powered hubs and if memory serves none of them require any
drivers. I have been known to be wrong in the past. 


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 3:19 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Powered Hub Drivers

Hi Elf,

Thank you very much for your input.  This is the information I got from
device manager.

General Advanced Driver Details
BLUETOOTH USB + EDR ADAPTER CLASS1 V2.1
UHE
Device type: Bluetooth Radios
Manufacturer: Broadcom
Location: Port_#0006.Hub_#0004
Device status
This device cannot start. (Code 10)
OK Cancel

I have no idea as to what a Code 10 is!  Apparently their 3 drivers
installed in:

C:/Windows/system32/drivers

I have found the drivers but, don't know what the hell to do with them! 
LOL,  hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL

Thanks again, take care.
Mike
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From: inthaneelf
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Powered Hub Drivers


have you googled for drivers, sometimes you find them in the darnedest
places due to problems just like this.

the other thing to think on is resetting/restoring the computer back to when
it did work? then I know of a 20 dollar or so application that should be
able to find the driver if its in use, and allow you to make a self
extracting reinstall file for it and other drivers of your system.

any of that sound feasable ?

I can hope,
elf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 1:19 PM
To: Blind Computing
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Powered Hub Drivers

Hi All,

I have a Belkin powered desktop 7 port USB hub, model#: F4U017.  I can't get

it to work with Windows7 64 bit Pro.  I get the unable to install drivers
error message whenever I plug in the USB cable.  I've tried with the power
plugged in  not plugged in, with devices plugged into the hub  not plugged

into the hub.  This same unit used to work with Windows7 but, not now!  It
does work with XP Pro.  This computer is a dual boot system.  I didn't have
any success checking Belkin's website for drivers but, when it worked last
the drivers installed automatically.  Does anyone have any advice or other
avenues to try?  I would really like to use this hub verses the hub I'm
currently using.  All help would be greatly appreciated  graciously
accepted!  Thank you all very much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Virtual audio cable

2013-02-04 Thread inthaneelf
have you asked rick himself using the BGZ contact links?

inthaneelf

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of PL
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 3:37 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Virtual audio cable

Hello list,
I am looking for Virtual audio cable podcast demo - published on October 10,
2011 at blind-geek-zone. Unfortunately this mp3 file is not available any
more on Rick's site for download. I'd like to listen to this demo before
making my decision about purchasing this software.
Your help is appreciated.
PL


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Re: [Blind-Computing] Laptop recommendation needed

2013-01-31 Thread inthaneelf
I recommend one of the following units: Asus, Acer, Toshiba, Samsung,
Lenovo, or alien ware

there is a company out here in California that looks good, and I'll be
trying my next laptop from there. its:
www.microexpress.net

hope this is of assistance to you,
inthane
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of kerryn gunness
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:10 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Laptop recommendation needed

i can recommend dell, hp or lenovo, i no they work great.

Kerryn Gunness
Death and life are in the power of the tongue
- Original Message - 
From: Waqas Chauhdry waq...@o2.co.uk
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:09 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Laptop recommendation needed


 Greetings,

 It is time to get a new laptop and I am really struggling to find a 
 suitable
 replacement. I shall be grateful if people can recommend a high 
 performance,
 professional looking machine running Windows 7 with a good battery life?

 A kind soul recommended HP DV6 but that model is three years old. Having
 said that I really like the specs and the full keyboard and if anyone know
 of a comparable model running an I7 processor would be ideal.


 Very Best Regards

 Waqas



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Re: [Blind-Computing] downloading Starburn 12.1

2013-01-29 Thread inthaneelf
open internet explorer, go to the tools menu, and enter on delete browsing
history go through that dialog box and delete at a minimum the cookies and
the temporary files (I delete it all each time) and hit the ok button

sometimes a bad cookie gets in your assorted temporary files that can foul
up your interaction with a few websites

if that doesn't cure it I will put it up on an ftp server I have so you can
download it

a bit of a hassle, but if that's what is needed then that's what is needed

I can type up a how to for burning here in a little bit, tonight or tomorrow
noonish at the latest

inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 3:34 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] downloading Starburn 12.1

please explain

-Original Message- 
From: inthaneelf 
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:46 AM 
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] downloading Starburn 12.1 

have you tried deleting your cache? 

I have downloaded from there a couple times, once recently to check it and
had no troubles

inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 3:10 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] downloading starburn 12.1

each time I go to www.rocketdivision.com to download starburn 12.1, and I
hit the download link, it says: oops, it appears there's an open link, so
does anyone have a direct download link for starburn 12.1, and how to use
starburn to burn audio books to cd?  
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Re: [Blind-Computing] downloading Starburn 12.1

2013-01-29 Thread inthaneelf
h, odd,

if you would, try running it again, when this window comes up, hit insert
and b as in boy, this should read you the entire window

that failing while still in the window try hitting insert alt and w to
virtualize the window and see what you get there, we need to figure out why
your install is going off nutcase while others have no trouble (I've
recommended this app to several and this has been the most problematical of
all of them combined). 

let me know what happens 

elf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:57 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] downloading Starburn 12.1

I did as you suggested, and was able to download starburn, so I will need 
your how to burn instructions also. I did notice one thing though, when I 
went back to where I had it saved, and opened starburn, it, again, went 
through the steps with: agree, disagree, and several other steps. I kept 
going through them, and chose to install, and after 100%, nothing, so I 
waited a moment, andalt + f4, but when I opened starburn again, the same 
thing came up

-Original Message- 
From: inthaneelf
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 2:54 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] downloading Starburn 12.1

open internet explorer, go to the tools menu, and enter on delete browsing
history go through that dialog box and delete at a minimum the cookies and
the temporary files (I delete it all each time) and hit the ok button

sometimes a bad cookie gets in your assorted temporary files that can foul
up your interaction with a few websites

if that doesn't cure it I will put it up on an ftp server I have so you can
download it

a bit of a hassle, but if that's what is needed then that's what is needed

I can type up a how to for burning here in a little bit, tonight or tomorrow
noonish at the latest

inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 3:34 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] downloading Starburn 12.1

please explain

-Original Message- 
From: inthaneelf
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:46 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] downloading Starburn 12.1

have you tried deleting your cache?

I have downloaded from there a couple times, once recently to check it and
had no troubles

inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 3:10 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] downloading starburn 12.1

each time I go to www.rocketdivision.com to download starburn 12.1, and I
hit the download link, it says: oops, it appears there's an open link, so
does anyone have a direct download link for starburn 12.1, and how to use
starburn to burn audio books to cd?
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Re: [Blind-Computing] re-post of question about jaws 12

2013-01-28 Thread inthaneelf
what matters is the type of key you have and what the work computer is, a 32
bit or a 64 bit system and what OS is installed on it

inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 3:43 AM
To: blind-computing-join
Subject: [Blind-Computing] re-post of question about jaws 12

 below is a question i sent in yesterday with no responces, and since
i need help, and with every questions, which are more difficult
answered, i thought that maybe it didn't go out:

friends,
  I'm going to have jaws 12 installed on my work pc, and will do this
from the fs website, because I can't find my disc, but do have my
authorization number, but I can't remember if I have jaws 12 32 or 64
bit installed here, on my home pc. is there a way to bring up which I
have, or does it really matter? tc

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Messages Reading Automatically

2013-01-26 Thread inthaneelf
no its under the view menu and its the reading pane that you need to get rid
of

also in folder options make sure the click once to highlight and twice to
open option is radio button on

HTH
inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Martina Letochová
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 10:38 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Messages Reading Automatically

I wonder if in Outlook there is something like a reading pane like in OE 
that could be on in this case? If so unchecking that would fix it. I don't 
use Outlook myself so can't fully confirm that; here in WLMail it's in 
layout under the view submenu, and since WLMail is something between OE and 
Outlook  it could be similar.
Martina


--
From: Lennie lenni...@mchsi.com
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:49 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Messages Reading Automatically

Hi,

I would like to know how to stop this on my wife's computer using
windows7 and outlook 2010. As Mike suggested, making a change in Jaws
verbosity might work, but my wife does not have or use Jaws.

She is frustrated when she highlight the email and it opens
automatically when in most cases, she wants to delete it.

Is there anything in option under file that could change this setting?

Any help will greatly be appreciated. Take care.

Lennie

At 06:49 PM 1/25/2013, you wrote:
Hi All,

Here is my set up.  Windows 7 computer, jaws 13, and Outlook 2010.  As I
arrow up and down in my list of messages.  The body of the message is
automatically read after jaws finishes reading the subject, who is from and
the date and time.  How can I stop jaws from reading the message
automatically?  The reading pane is set to off.  Thanks in advance for your
help!

Steve


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Re: [Blind-Computing] Software for radio scanners

2013-01-24 Thread inthaneelf
you can try NVDA, or trial use versions of dolphin's Hal, system access, or
window eyes will tell you if they will work

I know a few folks who prefer one screen reader for a single task, but use
another most of the time so they maintain the usual use one and trial
version use the other for the one program, or use NVDA

HTH,
inthane
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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bob J.
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:48 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Software for radio scanners

I have two Windows programs used to upload data to the Radio Shack Pro
106/197 radio scanners.

ARC500 and WIN500 are NOT friendly to JFW 6 or JFW 10!

If anyone knows of alternate software for this same purpose, I will
appreciate such info.

Or, if JFW scripts exist for either of the two programs I already have, I
will appreciate info on where they might be acquired!

TIA

Bob



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Re: [Blind-Computing] jaws not working in edit fields

2013-01-24 Thread inthaneelf
myself, I would do a repair of jaws 8 and see if that fixes it since it
worked before. 

in 8 it should bee in the tools sub-menu of the jaws sub-menu in the start
menu/programs

you will need a copy of the original install file that you used, or you can
uninstall your j-8 and reinstall using the last issued j-8 file off of
freedom Scientifics' site in jaws downloads older copies. 

HTH
inthane
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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:50 AM
To: blind-computing-join
Subject: [Blind-Computing] jaws not working in edit fields

 i sent in a statement saying that jaws does repeat what i've typed in
any edit box, or page, and received this reply: did you try setting
it to say all and to select charicter ecko and make shure that is
terned on. and also make shure that set charicters is terned on as
well.  what i need to know is how to check what was sent to me. i use
jaws 8, and xp pro

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Re: [Blind-Computing] tablets

2013-01-23 Thread inthaneelf
you do not need anything other than voiceover on the iPad, and if you work
with it a little bit its nearly totally accessible, the external keyboard is
not even necessary just a bit of Patience to get used to the keying method. 

I believe other tablets are accessible as well since they come in android,
Linux and such and there are accessibility products for all of the above. 

HTH,
inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:13 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] tablets

The voice over on the iPad is quite remarkable actually, enjoyed the
experience. Needs a lot of getting used too, not having buttons and all I
mean. I don't think you need an additional screen reader on it to be able to
use it. Did not do some intensive testing on it though, friends iPad and you
know how selfish iPad users can get - HAHAHAHA!

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:23 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] tablets

Mark,

Does the ipad have voice over on it?

Can you ;put jaws on these or no? Is this the only one that is accessible to
us?

Kathy

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mark Torgerson
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 8:38 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] tablets

Hi
 My friend gave me an I pad 4, for Christmas. I know it can do much more
than I can currently access. However, my plan is to buy an external
keyboard. This should allow me to navigate around the screen quite nicely.
 This is most of what I know for the moment.

God bless,
Mark

-Original Message-
From: Kathy Pingstock
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 10:33 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] tablets

Good evening,



Are the computer tablets accessible to us?



Kathy

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Picture not found when forwarding email in WLM2011

2013-01-20 Thread inthaneelf
many of these are images that are on the computers the Email came from and
so are not found when you go to transmit the message

not much you can do about it, the only thing that might help will leave you
open to attacks since image files are a nice little injection point for
Trojans

regards,
inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Sharon Gosling
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:26 AM
To: blind
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Picture not found when forwarding email in
WLM2011

Often when I go to forward email containing images in WLM 2011 it will say
the pictures in the email could not be found and do I want to send it
anyway. Since I am forwarding to sighted friends and family I say no. Why
aren't the pictures being found? I have gone through all the settings I am
aware of and can't find where to choose to have images downloaded.
Even though I can't see them I hate it when people forward email without the
pictures as Jaws keeps reading the words similar to Pictures deleted by
sender. And it does this for each picture that is not there.
So how can I set WLM 2011 so that the pictures are there and can be
forwarded?
Thanks in advance,
Sherrie Gosling
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Locked out of Windows and can't get in, any helpers please?

2013-01-20 Thread inthaneelf
in the windows 7 helpful hints on my grab bag site:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
there are instructions for being able to reset your password

HTH,
inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mark Torgerson
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 2:41 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Locked out of Windows and can't get in, any
helpers please?

Hi
 I had something simular happen with the passwords. Before I shut
down the computer, I found out that if I created another User account
with adminastrater password privilages The I could reset the password
on my original account from this second account. Perhaps you already
have a secount with administrator privilages?

God bless,
Mark Torgerson

On 1/19/13, Steve Boodram steveboodram...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello friends, I urgently need your help please.

 as you all may be aware I posted previusly a problem concerning IE or any
 browser won't let me change my homepage from AVG security search. I was
told
 that it probably  had to do with some kind of settings in parental control
 and I went in there to see if I could figure out what to do. Whilst in
 there, I was prompted by Windows to set a password, less programs or
persons
 could have acces and pose some kind of a security risk which I did and
 confirmed it in the box that followed. I created a really simple password
 which I am sure to remember and when I rebooted the machine I am locked
out
 of Windows. I hear the startup sound but gets the prompt to enter my
 password and it never worked. So one problem lead me int another.

 Do you have any idea as to how I can reset this or would I have to do the
 dreaded reformat?

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Initial setup of new computer

2013-01-18 Thread inthaneelf
ok, just checked it and it's working fine, but...
are you just arrowing down to the link and entering on it, or are you moving
to the first t in the URL and then hitting enter?

most of the windows clients now need you to move a letter into the address
in order to work.

here is a copy of the URL as it comes to I.E. 9 when I use the alt d command
to get the current address:
http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com/

or, as always copy the address out and use the open dialog of i.E. or
Firefox to open it.

take care,
inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rosario Perez
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 2:53 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Initial setup of new computer

Hello inthane, I have tried to go to your web site and I cannot access it.
It says that the web site cannot be display etc.

Rosario


If in our daily life we can smile,
if we can be peaceful and happy,
not only we, but everyone will profit from it.
This is the most basic kind of peace work.



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Behalf Of inthaneelf
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 2:36 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Initial setup of new computer

all this is covered in my windows 7 helpful hints zip package on my grab bag
site:
http://grab bag.alacorncomputer.com

unzip the downloaded folder of hints, go into it and hit I for installation

I don't remember the screens in the setup, but they can be done with
narrator, and you hit windows key and u, then alt and n if narrator does not
start at that point. 


HTH,
inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lennie
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:27 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Initial setup of new computer

Hi,

I have a new windows7 64 bits computer ready to fire up. As you know, Jaws
is not installed yet.
My question is this. Can I being blind do the initial setup using narrator?
If so, since I never use narrator, can someone give me some guidance on how
to use the narrator in a windows 7 OS environment? I do have some basic
ideas what to expect, but sighted help is not possible even though my wife
could be of some help. She is very reluctant since she is afraid of screwing
something up.

I would like to be able to do the setup with narrator so I can get to the
point to install Jaws. If the opinion from the list don't think that this is
possible, then I will have to call someone to do the setup for me.

Thanks for any advice and suggestions. I appreciate any help that I can get.
Take care.

Lennie


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Re: [Blind-Computing] Initial setup of new computer

2013-01-17 Thread inthaneelf
all this is covered in my windows 7 helpful hints zip package on my grab bag
site:
http://grab bag.alacorncomputer.com

unzip the downloaded folder of hints, go into it and hit I for installation

I don't remember the screens in the setup, but they can be done with
narrator, and you hit windows key and u, then alt and n if narrator does not
start at that point. 


HTH,
inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lennie
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:27 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Initial setup of new computer

Hi,

I have a new windows7 64 bits computer ready to fire up. As you know, 
Jaws is not installed yet.
My question is this. Can I being blind do the initial setup using 
narrator? If so, since I never use narrator, can someone give me some 
guidance on how to use the narrator in a windows 7 OS environment? I 
do have some basic ideas what to expect, but sighted help is not 
possible even though my wife could be of some help. She is very 
reluctant since she is afraid of screwing something up.

I would like to be able to do the setup with narrator so I can get to 
the point to install Jaws. If the opinion from the list don't think 
that this is possible, then I will have to call someone to do the setup for
me.

Thanks for any advice and suggestions. I appreciate any help that I 
can get. Take care.

Lennie


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[Blind-Computing] Installing updates

2013-01-16 Thread inthaneelf
this is done by selecting the alert me to updates... option, then when you
open windows update you can tab across to a set of links, one is for
priority updates, the other is for optional updates, if you enter on one of
these links you will get a checklist of the update files available to you. 

HTH,
inthane
-Original Message- 
From: Fred Adams
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:14 PM
To: Jaws-users
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Installing updates

I am using W7, Outlook 2010 and latest jaws and I know how to install
latest microsoft updates but how can I know what updates that I am
installing?   Before installing, I go to control panel to latest updates
but I can't find what updates I am installing.  I would like to see the
updates so I know if I want to install or not.  I would appreciate it if
someone could give me info on this.

Thanks much,

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC



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Re: [Blind-Computing] [Blind-ComputingGetting back on a mailing list]

2013-01-16 Thread inthaneelf
hi, 

what lists are you speaking of, a few have either changed names and/or been
canceled by the list owner

take care,
inthane

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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 5:23 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] [Blind-ComputingGetting back on a
mailinglist]

Hi Fred  Gerry,

Fred, to look at what updates are available, for example optional updates, 
tab to the optional  link  press the spacebar or enter to open the optional

updates link  you'll be able to see what updates are abailable.  For 
important updates, tab to the Important updates link  open it to see what's

available.  In optional updates you have to check the updates you want 
installed whereas in important updates, they are all checked  you need to 
uncheck the ones you don't want to install.  I'm writing this from memory, 
boy are you in trouble LOL LOL, because I don't have any new updates at the 
moment.  Also, there is an installed updates option that you can click on to

see what updates have been installed.

Gerry, you might want to email the owner of the lists' you're having 
problems with  make sure you're still subscribed or to see if there are 
problems with others using the same internet provider as yourself.

Hope this helped.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Gerry Mack
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] [Blind-ComputingGetting back on a 
mailinglist]


I've been on a couple of mailing lists and they're high traffic lists.  I
haven't received e-mail from either list.  What do I do?

Gerry

-Original Message- 
From: Fred Adams
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:14 PM
To: Jaws-users
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Installing updates

I am using W7, Outlook 2010 and latest jaws and I know how to install
latest microsoft updates but how can I know what updates that I am
installing?   Before installing, I go to control panel to latest updates
but I can't find what updates I am installing.  I would like to see the
updates so I know if I want to install or not.  I would appreciate it if
someone could give me info on this.

Thanks much,

FRED C. ADAMS W4HC



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Re: [Blind-Computing] is that possible to use ms office 2003 and2010 both?

2013-01-14 Thread inthaneelf
actually it may be possible with a custom install of the earlier office set,
using something like office 2003 alpha (a name not expected by so not used
in the 2010's install and over write functions) and then installing office
2010 with its standard setup you may be able to put both on one machine, but
I think this may be the last combination like this that will be doable.

the auto integration is being extended in each version of office and is
becoming more complete and inescapable. 

good luck for whatever reason your wishing to do this,
inthane
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:04 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] is that possible to use ms office 2003
and2010 both?

Either 2003 or 2007 or 2010. All three at once, no way! Bill Gates will want
to meet you personally to understand why you wish to do something so out of
the ordinary...

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of nitin patel
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:15 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] is that possible to use ms office 2003 and 2010
both?

hi friends,
i was useing ms office 3 before some days.
but now i wanted to use office 2003 and also 2010.
i canbut after installing office 2010 i am not able to use office 2003.
because my office 2003 is upgrated in to office 2010.
and only short cuts are there in all programs.
so getting arror message of problem with shortcut.
and i am also not getting the icon of office 2003 in program and fitures.
so please tell me what should i do?
can i use both virsions of ms office or not.
and please share the titorials of ms office 2010 if you have.
because i will have to read it to access all the new features.
thanks from

nitin patel from ahmedabad gujarat.
mob:
+91 9725661243
skype:
patelnitind

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Re: [Blind-Computing] is that possible to use ms office 2003 and2010 both?

2013-01-14 Thread inthaneelf
and folks (I hope this hasn't been shut down a few steps after I see, but
before my replies arrive! if so, I apologize)  it doesn't matter why this
person wishes to do this, they do so answer there question politely! 

and the sarcastic remarks are what ruin and shut down lists, so shut! up!

inthaneelf

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mujtaba Merchant
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:04 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] is that possible to use ms office 2003
and2010 both?

Either 2003 or 2007 or 2010. All three at once, no way! Bill Gates will want
to meet you personally to understand why you wish to do something so out of
the ordinary...

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of nitin patel
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:15 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] is that possible to use ms office 2003 and 2010
both?

hi friends,
i was useing ms office 3 before some days.
but now i wanted to use office 2003 and also 2010.
i canbut after installing office 2010 i am not able to use office 2003.
because my office 2003 is upgrated in to office 2010.
and only short cuts are there in all programs.
so getting arror message of problem with shortcut.
and i am also not getting the icon of office 2003 in program and fitures.
so please tell me what should i do?
can i use both virsions of ms office or not.
and please share the titorials of ms office 2010 if you have.
because i will have to read it to access all the new features.
thanks from

nitin patel from ahmedabad gujarat.
mob:
+91 9725661243
skype:
patelnitind

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Re: [Blind-Computing] is that possible to use ms office 2003 and2010 both?

2013-01-14 Thread inthaneelf
thank you, a decent, real, and civilized reply, loud applause!

inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:48 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] is that possible to use ms office 2003
and2010 both?

I tried this approach once with Office 2000, which I had and worked
fine, with Office 2010 and it just created a disaster. I finally had
to totally uninstall both and then just install Office 2010 which then
worked fine. There may be a way but I think you are better off
sticking with one or the other

Al

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of nitin patel
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:45 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] is that possible to use ms office 2003 and
2010 both?

hi friends,
i was useing ms office 3 before some days.
but now i wanted to use office 2003 and also 2010.
i canbut after installing office 2010 i am not able to use office
2003.
because my office 2003 is upgrated in to office 2010.
and only short cuts are there in all programs.
so getting arror message of problem with shortcut.
and i am also not getting the icon of office 2003 in program and
fitures.
so please tell me what should i do?
can i use both virsions of ms office or not.
and please share the titorials of ms office 2010 if you have.
because i will have to read it to access all the new features.
thanks from

nitin patel from ahmedabad gujarat.
mob:
+91 9725661243
skype:
patelnitind

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Re: [Blind-Computing] is that possible to use ms office 2003and2010 both?

2013-01-14 Thread inthaneelf
sorry neighbor I just found a lot of that offensive, I knew you would be
showing up, never doubted it, that's why I took a few lines I wanted to say
out of my one scathing reply before I sent it, 
and now that it is in your hands I guess I should shut up on the topic, so
done and done

inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 7:03 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] is that possible to use ms office 2003and2010
both?

Trust me this list as with any list I have a hand in operating is dedicated
to  the benefit of all members to increase their respective computing
ability. 

This message might not be up to my normal writing standards but it is Monday
morning and all the coffee isn't in yet. My team and I are here to make sure
that all members treat each other with respect and courtesy. The message you
are referring to does not seem to be written with any malice or abusive
content. If it did you or anybody else would not need to concern yourself
with our doing the job we know so well. 

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of nitin patel
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:15 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] is that possible to use ms office 2003
and2010 both?

sorry mister group owner i forgot your name that's why i am writeing like
this.
but i whood like to say to mister mujtaba marchant that i am not a foolish
man like you.
by mistake it was written  the word use instade of install.
bye the way,
don't need your foolish reply.
and dear modrator sir,
i want to ask 1 question here.
for what this list is?
to increes our computing knowledge?
or for insulting other members?
you must take an action against this my insult wich mister mujtaba marchant
did.
other wice next time this man can do the same thing with other memvers also.
to manten rules and ragulations of this list.
you should take an action against this comment.
hope you will do.
thanks

On 1/14/13, Alan Robbins arobb...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
 I tried this approach once with Office 2000, which I had and worked 
 fine, with Office 2010 and it just created a disaster. I finally had 
 to totally uninstall both and then just install Office 2010 which then 
 worked fine. There may be a way but I think you are better off 
 sticking with one or the other

 Al

 -Original Message-
 From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com]
 On Behalf Of nitin patel
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:45 AM
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [Blind-Computing] is that possible to use ms office 2003 and 
 2010 both?

 hi friends,
 i was useing ms office 3 before some days.
 but now i wanted to use office 2003 and also 2010.
 i canbut after installing office 2010 i am not able to use office 
 2003.
 because my office 2003 is upgrated in to office 2010.
 and only short cuts are there in all programs.
 so getting arror message of problem with shortcut.
 and i am also not getting the icon of office 2003 in program and 
 fitures.
 so please tell me what should i do?
 can i use both virsions of ms office or not.
 and please share the titorials of ms office 2010 if you have.
 because i will have to read it to access all the new features.
 thanks from

 nitin patel from ahmedabad gujarat.
 mob:
 +91 9725661243
 skype:
 patelnitind

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Importing mail from Outlook express

2013-01-12 Thread inthaneelf
I thought that it could be done by putting the dbx files on a thumb drive
and then importing them using the import command in the file menu of
outlook, but I seem to have misplaced my notes on this.

can't hurt to try it though

inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 12:37 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Importing mail from Outlook express

My information is no you can't do that.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
- Original Message - 
From: Lennie lenni...@mchsi.com
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 2:05 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Importing mail from Outlook express


Hi,

I have a XP laptop with emails on Outlook Express. I recently backup 
the DBX file and I want to know if I can import the DBX file into 
[outlook 2010 on my new windows7 computer? If so, can anyone direct 
me how to do this?

Any help will greatly be appreciated. Thanks.

Take care.


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Re: [Blind-Computing] search providers in internet explorer nine

2013-01-12 Thread inthaneelf
no, I just went following the I.E. instructions and downloaded the ones I
wanted then removed the ones that I was provided that I didn't want.

inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 8:37 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] search providers in internet explorer nine

I have not done this in 44 for evers but is it true when downloading and
adding search providers for IE9, one needs a microsoft account?
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Problems with EBay and Facebook

2013-01-08 Thread inthaneelf
there not keepers... they are on the spot at the moment files that are
closed so do not get fouled up by viruses, mse is a superior product and the
two I spoke of are quick spans good only for a week

so no, you do not keep them instead of MSE

you can run them while MSE is running, but you do not keep them. 

inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eleni Vamvakari
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 5:35 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Problems with EBay and Facebook

Interesting!  I just started it, and when I went to about Internet
Explorer, this is what it said.

Version: 8.0.6001.18702

I just wish I knew why I was having these problems.  Also, reguarding
those antivirus and spyware programs, can I run them while Microsoft
Security Essentials is on my machine or not?  Can I keep the two on
together, even if I have to delete MSE?

On 07/01/2013, Rosemarie Chavarria knitqueen2...@verizon.net wrote:
 Hi,

 I had IE 8 on my old XP computer and had no problem with it. You can try
 E-bay with IE 8 and hopefully that will help.

 Rosemarie



 -Original Message-
 From: Eleni Vamvakari
 Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 5:59 PM
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Problems with EBay and Facebook

 I didn't see anything about cash.  I tried deleting cookies and
 temporary files and nothing helped.  I think I'm using IE 7, but am
 not sure.  As I said, I hardly ever use that browser.  Can 8 work with
 XP?  Maybe, that will help.  I still don't get why it's not working
 with Firefox, as I have the latest version of that as well as of NVDA.
 Also, it's not that the site doesn't work at all.  I can search, but
 can't narrow things down.  If I found something that I liked, I could
 buy it.  But I cannot search properly.

 On 06/01/2013, inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 well I bought an item on eBay two days ago using win 7, jaws 13, and i.E.

 9
 and had no troubles with either searching or purchasing my item

 I would advise you try dumping your internet cash and cookies files using
 the tools provided in the tools menu and try it again with I.E.9 or prior

 regards,
 inthane

 -Original Message-
 From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Eleni Vamvakari
 Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 5:39 AM
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Problems with EBay and Facebook

 The mobile version of Facebook is fairly easy to use.  My main problem
 is with Ebay.  I did a system restore last night, but that didn't help
 matters.  I found that I am able to choose location and buy it now,
 even though they're the strange half links half check boxes.  But
 there's still no way for me to sort by price, nor can I enter minimum
 and maximum price.  Those fields simply aren't there.  I tried to see
 if there was a link to return the classic look, or something of that
 nature, but none existed.  This was with Firefox.  It's also worth
 noting that, when Internet Explorer still showed the normal site, I
 still couldn't purchase anything with it. Every time I would attempt
 to do so, the page would freeze on me.  Since I can't copy or edit the
 url there, I was forced to copy the entire page of the item into
 Notepad, then return to Firefox, go to Ebay and search by item number
 so that I could buy it.

 As a sidenote, I ran a full scan with Microsoft Security Essentials.
 I can't tell if it found anything, since it's not really accessible,
 and I just set it to quarantine and remove any moderate to serious
 threats.  But it didn't change the behaviour of Ebay.

 On 04/01/2013, Umair Ijaz umairthedeba...@gmail.com wrote:
 i use fb, yes there are less accessibility. but you still can visit
 them and can chit chat with your friends. for chating i use skype 6,
 which give the option to configure fb contacts on it. and for
 notifications i use both mobile version and mainsite also. main site
 has more option so i mostly switch to it. but i am beginner user of
 facebook so fb, so i always prefer that some one should made its
 tutorial with jaws. initial tutorial withjaws are present on jaws
 users list home page but they are about how to make account on fb, so
 i request david and others that if someone has some tutorial regarding
 facebook then please share. if someone write these in text then it
 will take no more than two or three pages in ms word. so if someone
 has sufficient kowledge on the social networking sites either facebook
 or twitter should come up with great contribution in the form of
 tutorial either in text or audio but with jaws. thanks

 On 1/3/13, inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 ah, well you could use  jaws, it still works there on eBay (I don't use
 facebook so can't comment on them), you could update to windows 7 which
 is
 not that hard to learn and can be customized

Re: [Blind-Computing] Problems with EBay and Facebook

2013-01-06 Thread inthaneelf
well I bought an item on eBay two days ago using win 7, jaws 13, and i.E. 9
and had no troubles with either searching or purchasing my item

I would advise you try dumping your internet cash and cookies files using
the tools provided in the tools menu and try it again with I.E.9 or prior

regards,
inthane

-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eleni Vamvakari
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 5:39 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Problems with EBay and Facebook

The mobile version of Facebook is fairly easy to use.  My main problem
is with Ebay.  I did a system restore last night, but that didn't help
matters.  I found that I am able to choose location and buy it now,
even though they're the strange half links half check boxes.  But
there's still no way for me to sort by price, nor can I enter minimum
and maximum price.  Those fields simply aren't there.  I tried to see
if there was a link to return the classic look, or something of that
nature, but none existed.  This was with Firefox.  It's also worth
noting that, when Internet Explorer still showed the normal site, I
still couldn't purchase anything with it. Every time I would attempt
to do so, the page would freeze on me.  Since I can't copy or edit the
url there, I was forced to copy the entire page of the item into
Notepad, then return to Firefox, go to Ebay and search by item number
so that I could buy it.

As a sidenote, I ran a full scan with Microsoft Security Essentials.
I can't tell if it found anything, since it's not really accessible,
and I just set it to quarantine and remove any moderate to serious
threats.  But it didn't change the behaviour of Ebay.

On 04/01/2013, Umair Ijaz umairthedeba...@gmail.com wrote:
 i use fb, yes there are less accessibility. but you still can visit
 them and can chit chat with your friends. for chating i use skype 6,
 which give the option to configure fb contacts on it. and for
 notifications i use both mobile version and mainsite also. main site
 has more option so i mostly switch to it. but i am beginner user of
 facebook so fb, so i always prefer that some one should made its
 tutorial with jaws. initial tutorial withjaws are present on jaws
 users list home page but they are about how to make account on fb, so
 i request david and others that if someone has some tutorial regarding
 facebook then please share. if someone write these in text then it
 will take no more than two or three pages in ms word. so if someone
 has sufficient kowledge on the social networking sites either facebook
 or twitter should come up with great contribution in the form of
 tutorial either in text or audio but with jaws. thanks

 On 1/3/13, inthaneelf inthane...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 ah, well you could use  jaws, it still works there on eBay (I don't use
 facebook so can't comment on them), you could update to windows 7 which
 is
 not that hard to learn and can be customized to look just like XP, or you
 can play with your dos when it comes out!

 live and learn, you make it sound bad, when it's actually a good thing

 inthaneelf

 -Original Message-
 From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Eleni Vamvakari
 Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:21 PM
 To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [Blind-Computing] Problems with Ebay and Facebook

 Over the past several months, I've been having major problems with
 Ebay.  I've noticed that the combo boxes for sorting items, as well as
 the edit boxes for choosing price, and the regular links for things
 like buy it now, the various categories, location, etc. have all
 become inaccessible.  They now look like a combination of links and
 check boxes, which do nothing when I click on them.  I've tried both
 Firefox, which is my main browser, and Internet Explorer.  Sometimes,
 they work properly, but now, neither one is working, and these
 problems appear on both browsers, where previously, I was able to use
 IE for the purpose.  Firefox also started acting normally, a few days
 ago, but has now resumed this strange look.  The ad-ons manager in
 Firefox has also become inaccessible.

 I also have to use the mobile version of Facebook with both browsers,
 since it's very difficult to use the main site on Firefox and
 virtually impossible with IE.  When I get e-mails of notifications
 from Facebook, they all use the www. version of pages.  But I can't
 get to the address with IE, as I can with Firefox, in order to edit it
 to m. so that I can view things on the mobile site.  I also can't
 update IE, because I'm using Windows XP, and 7 is the last version
 that will work with my os! So basically, I'm left with only a few
 options.
 1. Change to a version of Windows which I have no idea how to use, and
 no desire to learn, one which is far more complicated than what I
 already have.
 2. Buy another Mac (which is ridiculously

Re: [Blind-Computing] Printer Installation Question

2013-01-03 Thread inthaneelf
if you have the ports on your router for it, that would be the really nice
way to do it, since that makes it universal instead of tied to one computer.


and although I can understand Norman's aversion to wire's going all over
the place I still value my networks speed over the trouble with Ethernet
cables (yes, wireless is up to 300 mbps, but wired is 1000, quite a
difference)

elf
-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Norman King
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 11:05 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Printer Installation Question

Hi.
I would do it that way if I couldn't do wireless.
I have an hp all in one here which I use with one computer.
I got sighted assistance and connected it to the router via wireless.
It works great.
I don't think I'll use usb unless it's absolutely necessary.
As you may have figured out by now I don't like a lot of wires going every
which way.




-Original Message-
From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:51 AM
To: Blind Computing
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Printer Installation Question

Hi all,

We are going to have a new all in 1 Canon printer installed today  I would
like to get the opinions of the list of the installation method.  We share
the printer between 3 computers via a network  in the past we've always
hooked the all in 1 up to 1 computer with an USB cable.  Well, this
technician said he would hook it up this time using an ethernet cable 
plugging it into the router.  Does anyone have experience with this method 
if so, would you please give us some feedback?  All input will be greatly
appreciated!
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [Blind-Computing] windows xp problem

2013-01-03 Thread inthaneelf
the first thing I would do is go to the two sites listed below, download the
fast acting anti-virus apps available there and run them: 

first is stinger at:
http://www.mcafee.com/apps/free-tools/termsofuse.aspx?url=/us/downloads/free
-tools/stinger.aspx

and the other is Microsoft's safety scanner at:
http://www.microsoft.com/security/scanner/en-us/default.aspx

these should make sure your clear of any viruses, they must be downloaded
and run freshly to do the job correctly due to the ever changing array of
viruses out there.

HTH,
inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of romance's prince
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 10:02 AM
To: Blind-Computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] windows xp problem

hello friends
happy new year.
please, need your help in this problem.
I've desktop computer, has windows xp-sp3, with jaws v11 32 bit..
now, when I open menu the curser jumping on an another item randomly, the
same when open any icon, also I can't use jaws curser cause it run quickly
everywhere..
also a sighted friend told me that when he tried to use mouse pointer it
jumping quickly and difficult to control it.
note: sometimes computer acting normally without any problem.
 please, need to know what I do to solve this problem?, I've a heavy work
might not able to format OS now.
  many thanks for your advice.
  beero
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Re: [Blind-Computing] windows xp problem

2013-01-03 Thread inthaneelf
the other thing I would suggest is running a repair on jaws

HTH,
inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of romance's prince
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 8:49 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] windows xp problem

hello mike
thanks for your care,
curser blinking was 100, i made it 63.
but the problem still not solved.
  thanks

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From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] windows xp problem


Hi Beero,

This is a total guess but, what the hell!  Try checking the blink rate of 
the cursor, steps are below.

1. Open the control panel and press enter to open Accessibility Options.
2. Control + Tab to the display page.
3. Tab to Cursor Options Blink Rate left right slider, this should be at
63%.
4. Tab to Cursor Options Width left right slider, this should be at 0%.

Take care.
Mike
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From: romance's prince
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] windows xp problem


hello dear
I tried it before, also tried to use computer while driver is disabled, 
nothing new
happened.
if I open nvda it gave quick peeps as in progress but very quickly.
  many thanks

beero

- Original Message - 
From: Lists pauls_li...@eircom.net
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] windows xp problem


Hi, Try installing a new mouse to see if it fixes this problem.

Paul.

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of romance's prince
Sent: 03 January 2013 01:11
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] windows xp problem

hello
restarting computer is not solve the problem.
dear, linnie; the same things i've, we need to define the problem good to
google it.
thanks

- Original Message - 
From: kerryn gunness k_gunn...@yahoo.ca
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] windows xp problem


restart the computer.

Kerryn Gunness
Death and life are in the power of the tongue
- Original Message - 
From: romance's prince romanticb...@yahoo.co.uk
To: Blind-Computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 2:01 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] windows xp problem


 hello friends
 happy new year.
 please, need your help in this problem.
 I've desktop computer, has windows xp-sp3, with jaws v11 32 bit..
 now, when I open menu the curser jumping on an another item randomly, the
 same when open any icon, also I can't use jaws curser cause it run quickly

 everywhere..
 also a sighted friend told me that when he tried to use mouse pointer it
 jumping quickly and difficult to control it.
 note: sometimes computer acting normally without any problem.
 please, need to know what I do to solve this problem?, I've a heavy work
 might not able to format OS now.
  many thanks for your advice.
  beero
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Printer Installation Question

2013-01-03 Thread inthaneelf
alright, well as long as it works for you, that's what is important

take care,
elf

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:14 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Printer Installation Question

Hi Inthane Elf  Norman,

Well, I went the way of USB cable connection because I don't have wireless 
cards in the 2 desktops  this new all in 1 didn't have an ethernet cable 
port after all.  Everything is now up  working excellent!  Thank you for 
your input.
Take care.
Mike
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From: inthaneelf
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Printer Installation Question


if you have the ports on your router for it, that would be the really nice
way to do it, since that makes it universal instead of tied to one computer.


and although I can understand Norman's aversion to wire's going all over
the place I still value my networks speed over the trouble with Ethernet
cables (yes, wireless is up to 300 mbps, but wired is 1000, quite a
difference)

elf
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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Norman King
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 11:05 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Printer Installation Question

Hi.
I would do it that way if I couldn't do wireless.
I have an hp all in one here which I use with one computer.
I got sighted assistance and connected it to the router via wireless.
It works great.
I don't think I'll use usb unless it's absolutely necessary.
As you may have figured out by now I don't like a lot of wires going every
which way.




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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:51 AM
To: Blind Computing
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Printer Installation Question

Hi all,

We are going to have a new all in 1 Canon printer installed today  I would
like to get the opinions of the list of the installation method.  We share
the printer between 3 computers via a network  in the past we've always
hooked the all in 1 up to 1 computer with an USB cable.  Well, this
technician said he would hook it up this time using an ethernet cable 
plugging it into the router.  Does anyone have experience with this method 
if so, would you please give us some feedback?  All input will be greatly
appreciated!
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Problems with EBay and Facebook

2013-01-03 Thread inthaneelf
ah, well you could use  jaws, it still works there on eBay (I don't use
facebook so can't comment on them), you could update to windows 7 which is
not that hard to learn and can be customized to look just like XP, or you
can play with your dos when it comes out!

live and learn, you make it sound bad, when it's actually a good thing

inthaneelf

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eleni Vamvakari
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:21 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Problems with Ebay and Facebook

Over the past several months, I've been having major problems with
Ebay.  I've noticed that the combo boxes for sorting items, as well as
the edit boxes for choosing price, and the regular links for things
like buy it now, the various categories, location, etc. have all
become inaccessible.  They now look like a combination of links and
check boxes, which do nothing when I click on them.  I've tried both
Firefox, which is my main browser, and Internet Explorer.  Sometimes,
they work properly, but now, neither one is working, and these
problems appear on both browsers, where previously, I was able to use
IE for the purpose.  Firefox also started acting normally, a few days
ago, but has now resumed this strange look.  The ad-ons manager in
Firefox has also become inaccessible.

I also have to use the mobile version of Facebook with both browsers,
since it's very difficult to use the main site on Firefox and
virtually impossible with IE.  When I get e-mails of notifications
from Facebook, they all use the www. version of pages.  But I can't
get to the address with IE, as I can with Firefox, in order to edit it
to m. so that I can view things on the mobile site.  I also can't
update IE, because I'm using Windows XP, and 7 is the last version
that will work with my os! So basically, I'm left with only a few
options.
1. Change to a version of Windows which I have no idea how to use, and
no desire to learn, one which is far more complicated than what I
already have.
2. Buy another Mac (which is ridiculously expensive) so that I can
upgrade to Mountain Lion, or buy more memory for my Macbook so I can
upgrade to Lion. Both have better navigational features than Snow
Leopard, but I'm not a huge fan of the Mac.  Please do not suggest to
me that I buy an iOS device.  I don't like touch screens and the like,
nor do I wish to change to Linux.
3. Continue using Firefox and uninstall/reinstall it every time Ebay
starts acting up, hoping that will fix the problem (it didn't today),
or I don't like an add-on and need to delete it, or do a system
restore each time.
4. Wait for my MS-DOS 7.10 machine, which should be coming soon.  I've
heard that these sites are accessible with DOS browsers.

For the record, I use NVDA as my screenreader.  Has anyone else
experienced these problems?  If so, what solutions have you found?
This is really upsetting me!  What's worse is that both Ebay and
Facebook have wonderfully accessible mobile pages, but they don't have
many of the basic features of their main sites.

Thanks,
Eleni

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Re: [Blind-Computing] recovering lost data

2013-01-01 Thread inthaneelf
I have the names of a couple others that are accessible, one is a freebee,
the other is a paid for professional recovery software kit complete with
coach to assist you through learning how to use it!

if you wind up needing either just give me a shout and I'll pass them along

inthane

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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 11:57 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] recovering lost data

Hi Anna,
You can try Recuva, which can be found at:

http://www.blind-computing.com/file_utilities/pages/recuva.html

Keep in mind, that it may not find all files if they have been overwritten 
too many times,
and some of the files it finds may be partially over-written , which means 
some of the data you want may be lost.
After the scan is complete, it will list the files it found,
and give the condition of them.
HTH,
Rick Justice
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From: Anna Vimini an...@etown.net
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 12:02 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] recovering lost data


Hi all,
before I do the system restore is there a way to recover lost data?
I am using windows xp
thanks in advance anna
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Re: [Blind-Computing] system restore

2012-12-31 Thread inthaneelf
ok, interesting, I never had this much trouble with accessing system restore
in windows XP )nor do I know on three out of five machines still operating
here). 

I do not need to use all these out of the ordinary keystrokes and such,
h

well if you need more help I can go through my simpler version of these
instructions with you while running one of my XP machines concurrently.

and if your on win 7 can accommodate that as well, since two machines here
run it

inthaneelf
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From: Blind-Computing [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 1:56 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] system restore

Hi Anna,

Below are 3 different explanations on how to find  run a restore point. 
Read all of them to see which 1 you can follow the best.
#1:
Restoring your computer using System Restore, and Jaws.
This procedure was used successfully with Jaws 6.2, on an eMachine computer,

with an Intel 2.8ghz processor, 256mb ram, and 80gb hard drive, with the 
display
resolution set at 50% of the maximum available screen resolution, and color 
pallet set at highest 32 bit.

1. From the system restore window, choose, restore my computer to an earlier

time, and tab to the next button, and press enter.
2. Use control home, to move to the top of the page, then arrow downuntil 
you hear the current month and year. while arrowing down the page, you will 
hear
instructions for restoring your computer.
3. While the cursor is positioned on the current month, shift tab, and you 
will be on the previous month button. if you want to see the restore points
in the previous month, press enter on the previous month button.
4. Follow the above steps to locate the month from which you want to select 
a restore point from. Each time you select the previous month, or next 
month,
you can use the up and down arrow keys to move thru the text on the selected

page.
5. Once you have selected the month you want, from the available choices,, 
arrow down the page until you hear the day of the week you want. This is 
where
a simple NotePad file of your restore points comes in handy. After making a 
restore point, if you record this imformation in a file, you can refer to it
to see the exact date you want to restore to. This makes it quicker to 
locate a restore point in the restore point calendar.
6. place your cursor on a day of the week, and then tab until you hear Jaws 
read a restore point, and from here you can use your up and down arrow keys
to see the list of restore points on the page.
7. once you have found the restore point you want to use, tab to the next 
button, and press enter.
8. Here you should get a confirmation page, so, start at the top of the 
page, and arrow down to read the imformation.
9. If you are satisfied with your selection, then tab to the next button and

press enter. The system restoration should begin.
10. Do not disturb the computer during this process, your machine should 
re-boot when the restore operation has been completed.

There may be a restore confirmation screen presented to you when the machine

re-boots, and you can okay this dialogue to close it, and resume using your
computer.

NOTE:
This is how the process went on the system mentioned above using one 
particular version of Jaws, and does not reflect how Jaws will read the 
imformation
on every system.



#2:
From: Gerald Levy
When you launch the System Restore wizard from System Tools on the
Accessories submenu of the Start menu, tab around the second page of the
dialog until you land on shows the previous day button.  Sometimes, you
may land on shows the next day button and skip over the one for the
previous day.  If this happens, simply Shift-tab once to the previous day
button.  Hit Space on this button and then go to the top of the page with
Control-Home.  Arrow down until you land on that day's llist of restore
points.  If that's not the one you want, tab around to the shows previous
day button, and repeat until you have gone back a few days to find a
restore point you want.  HTH.

Gerald
#3:
From: Gene gsas...@ripco.com

Here is more information.

I said in my last message that System Restore in XP uses a somewhat
nonstandard interface.  It appears the interface causes later versions of
JAWS to work differently with it than earlier versions.

I don't know how much you know about System Restore.  My Accessible World
presentation gives a lot of information about System Restore for those not
familiar with the utility and advises on how to use it in ways that will
avoid possible problems such as unintentionally uninstalling programs.

If you don't want that much information, you can skim my presentation
untuil you get to the parts you want to listen to.  But I'll provide some
information that may allow you to use it with your current version of JAWS
in this message.

Your version of JAWS may not allow you

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