Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Tracy Hirsh via CnC-List]

Definitely vote list.

I get to see every email under its own tab with Gmail and I chose which I
want to read. Many times I am reading not because I have an issue but to
learn a little more about my wonderful boat!

I know that I would not travel to a separate site and log in to scroll
through topics on a forum.

I like the idea of the gofundme account too. Keep us posted on that!

Tracy Hirsh
Ogopogo
1989 37+ CB
Fairhope AL
On Mar 13, 2015 4:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

   Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like
 to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an
 email list (like this one).

 PROS:
 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
 5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and
 undesirable subscribers blocked.
 6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and
 view the latest topics since your last visit.

 CONS:
 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional
 enhancements.
 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting
 site. ()
 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a
 bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

 Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?
 It does not matter to me.

 Stu


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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[David Blair via CnC-List]

I like the list. Use a separate address for it so regular emails are not 
affected. Sometimes a lot of volume but no big deal to delete what is not 
interesting to me. Cheers Stu, and thanks again.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tracy Hirsh 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:12 AM
To: Stu; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

 

Definitely vote list.

I get to see every email under its own tab with Gmail and I chose which I want 
to read. Many times I am reading not because I have an issue but to learn a 
little more about my wonderful boat! 

I know that I would not travel to a separate site and log in to scroll through 
topics on a forum. 

I like the idea of the gofundme account too. Keep us posted on that!

Tracy Hirsh
Ogopogo
1989 37+ CB
Fairhope AL

On Mar 13, 2015 4:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a 
“Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like 
this one).

 

PROS:

1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list

2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.

3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.

4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.

5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.

6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view the 
latest topics since your last visit.

 

CONS:

1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.

2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
()

3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

 

Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
does not matter to me.

 

Stu

 


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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

List seems much more interactive than a forum.  Prefer the list which is why I 
am here not sailnet

Mike
1981 CC 36 Blue Horizon No 1 ALUMNI

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin 
DeYoung via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 7:37 PM
To: Stu; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

I prefer the list.

There are plenty of forums.  This list is different / better because of the CC 
focus and limited participation (not invaded by non CC owners and alumni).

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 CC 43
Seattle

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via 
CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 2:32 PM
To: CC Email List
Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum

Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a 
“Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like 
this one).

PROS:
1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.
6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view the 
latest topics since your last visit.

CONS:
1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.
2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
()
3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
does not matter to me.

Stu

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Jonathan — you’re right.  Setting your mail client up as IMAP rather than as a 
POP client means that all messages will stay on the email server, and then be 
copied to all IMAP clients of that account when they connect.  I’ve got my 
Gmail account set up that way on my MacBook Pro, iPhone and iPad, and 
everything stays synchronized; so it appears to work for Google Mail.  I’ve 
also got several personal and work email accounts set up that way.

With POP, as soon as a client connects, the message is downloaded from the 
server to that client only; there’s no good way to keep things synchronized.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Mar 14, 2015, at 11:09 PM, Indigo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 I am no expert - but believe you have to set up your email account as an IMAP 
 account rather than POP3. With IMAP, the various mail clients are 
 synchronized so that if you delete an email on one device, it is deleted from 
 all. (I have 4 devices from which I can read / send emails - so it was 
 critical for me to have this feature). I don't use gmail - I have my own 
 domain with godaddy and it was not difficult to set the account as IMAP - not 
 sure if gmail can be so easily configured
 
 --
 Jonathan
 Indigo CC 35III
 SOUTHPORT CT

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Indigo via CnC-List]

Close. Does not have to be all Apple products to sync with IMAP. I have Outlook 
on my home PC, and on my work Laptop. I have an iPhone and an IPad mini.  All 
retrieve emails from the server, but if I delete an email on one device, it 
will be deleted on all the others. Likewise I can see sent messages that were 
sent from one device, on all others. 

--
Jonathan
Indigo CC 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

 On Mar 15, 2015, at 21:44, Rick Brass via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 
 What I understand you to be saying, though, is that with all Apple devices, 
 and with all set up on an IMAP account, you can look at the messages you have 
 on any of the devices. And when you delete a message after looking at it on 
 the IPad, you will not see it again on the phone, MacBook, etc.?
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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Actually that is not strictly true. My laptop, using Outlook, is set to
remove messages from the POP server. It is a setting you chose when setting
up the email account.

 

I also use whatever email client comes standard on my IPad. When I set up
the mail account on it, I chose the setting to not delete messages when
downloaded.

 

That way I see all the messages on my laptop and can chose which to archive,
delete, etc. The SPAM blocker for either Windows or MacAfee seems to work a
lot better than twhatever is on the IPad, so I get a lot fewer letters from
Nigerian royalty and folks in Russia with a miracle cure for my diabetes.

 

I do need to keep my IPad turned off (as opposed to sleep mode) so it does
not periodically download messages on the server. But when I am on the boat
or carrying only the IPad, I turn it on and it downloads whatever messages
are on the server - and leaves them there to be downloaded on the laptop at
some later time. 

 

What I understand you to be saying, though, is that with all Apple devices,
and with all set up on an IMAP account, you can look at the messages you
have on any of the devices. And when you delete a message after looking at
it on the IPad, you will not see it again on the phone, MacBook, etc.?

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick
G Street via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 10:29 AM
To: Indigo; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

 

 

With POP, as soon as a client connects, the message is downloaded from the
server to that client only; there's no good way to keep things synchronized.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 

On Mar 14, 2015, at 11:09 PM, Indigo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com  wrote:





I am no expert - but believe you have to set up your email account as an
IMAP account rather than POP3. With IMAP, the various mail clients are
synchronized so that if you delete an email on one device, it is deleted
from all. (I have 4 devices from which I can read / send emails - so it was
critical for me to have this feature). I don't use gmail - I have my own
domain with godaddy and it was not difficult to set the account as IMAP -
not sure if gmail can be so easily configured

--
Jonathan
Indigo CC 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

 

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Mark G via CnC-List]

I am rarely a poster but a frequent viewer.  I would greatly prefer a forum to 
the list.  I use a forum to indulge one of my other expensive hobbies (see 
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/1-porsche-technical-forums/).  I find it to be a 
much more user-friendly format.  Also, there may be some savings in that you 
can incorporate the classifieds into one of the forums.  But don't take this 
the wrong way.  I greatly appreciate this list and all the work that it takes 
to run it!

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Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a 
?Forum? similar to ?cruisersforum? or ?sailnet? instead of an email list (like 
this one).

PROS:1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list2. Follow a thread easier 
without having to read multiple emails.3. Easier to find past, archived 
messages and threads.4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.5. 
Easily moderated by more than one person. Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.6. No more 20-30 emails a day. Visit the site 
at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit.

CONS:1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on 
hosting site. ()3. Installation ? I?ve done it before and it does take some 
time. And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

Bottom line ? would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? It 
does not matter to me.

Stu
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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[jtsails via CnC-List]

From: Rick Brass via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 4:19 PM
To: 'RPH' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

My main reason for preferring a forum over an email list is nights like tonight 
where I have 95 emails to sort through on the computer and I know that I’ll 
have to go through them again on the cell phone and tablet the next time I log 
on with them (that’s very infrequent). I haven’t mastered how to get gmail to 
delete posts from my account when I delete them on the computer, but I’m sure 
there is a setting somewhere!
James
Delaney
CC 38 Mk2
Oriental, NC
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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[mike amirault via CnC-List]

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Seems to me the recurring reason for preference for a forum is simplicity in 
searching the list archive when you have a question. As I recall that is pretty 
easy using Google – though I use the function so seldom I’ve forgotten exactly 
how to do it.

 

I have a subfolder in my email called “Boat Stuff”. If I see a message with 
content I feel I will want to access later – maybe a project or a technique or 
a recommendation for a certain piece of gear – the message gets moved to the 
“Boat Stuff” folder and gets archived on my own hard drive. 

 

I think the last time I actually searched for something in the list archive was 
when my hard drive fried and I lost my old “Boat Stuff” folder.

 

And I feel I should point out that, were this a forum format, there is little 
likelihood that anyone on the list except Stu would have seen the question that 
you asked in your post. In list format we all get asked the question.

 

With List format, the recent discussion that started with a comment on the VOR 
grounding morphed into a discussion of proper navigation techniques, the value 
of paper charts, and what is actually required to be on your boat. In my 
opinion that sort of information is useful to everyone. But in Forum format one 
would need to search for the VOR grounding in order to stumble onto the chart 
discussion, AFIK.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of RPH via 
CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 12:54 PM
To: airdale...@juno.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

 

I am a relative newbie here, but I would very much prefer a FORUM and I would 
certainly make a donation to help cover the costs. 

 

Frankly, I am a little surprised that there is so much support for the list 
over a forum format (though I obviously respect opposing points of view) . 
Stupid question: is it possible to have both so that emails sent on a 
particular subject show up as posts on a thread identified by that subject? 

 

Robert H. 





 

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[ken black via CnC-List]

I would prefer the list format, kind of used to it after ten plus years  Ken 
Black  35-3

From: Stu via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 5:32 PM
To: CC Email List 
Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum

Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a 
“Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like 
this one).

PROS:
1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.
6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view the 
latest topics since your last visit.

CONS:
1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.
2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
()
3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
does not matter to me.

Stu




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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Charles Nelson via CnC-List]

I like the list--info is pushed to me--no effort on my part.

Charlie Nelson
1995 CC 36XL/kcb
Water Phantom

Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 14, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 The list is the best.  That way I know I’ve read everything…
  
 Jake
  
 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via 
 CnC-List
 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 5:32 PM
 To: CC Email List
 Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum
  
 Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have 
 a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list 
 (like this one).
  
 PROS:
 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
 5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
 undesirable subscribers blocked.
 6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view 
 the latest topics since your last visit.
  
 CONS:
 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
 enhancements.
 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
 ()
 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
 more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.
  
 Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
 does not matter to me.
  
 Stu
  
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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Indigo via CnC-List]

I am no expert - but believe you have to set up your email account as an IMAP 
account rather than POP3. With IMAP, the various mail clients are synchronized 
so that if you delete an email on one device, it is deleted from all. (I have 4 
devices from which I can read / send emails - so it was critical for me to have 
this feature). I don't use gmail - I have my own domain with godaddy and it was 
not difficult to set the account as IMAP - not sure if gmail can be so easily 
configured

--
Jonathan
Indigo CC 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

 On Mar 14, 2015, at 21:51, jtsails via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 I haven’t mastered how to get gmail to delete posts from my account when I 
 delete them on the computer, but I’m sure there is a setting somewhere!

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[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I'm sure it is.  It has had to operate in the shadow of the greatest CC
related list for years!
On Mar 14, 2015 12:23 AM, Jim Watts via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 For anyone that is interested, this is the address for the Yahoo CC
 group. It is, to be kind, dormant.
 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/CnCSailBoats/info

 Jim Watts
 Paradigm Shift
 CC 35 Mk III
 Victoria, BC

 On 13 March 2015 at 20:30, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Someone mentioned a yahoo group. I am a member of a few and they send
 messages (e-mails, like this list), but at the same time allow to
 participate in them like in a Forum (on a web site, following threads,
 allowing photo albums etc.).



 I already voted for the list, but possibly that option can be
 investigated, as well.



 On the flip side, let's not overestimate the bandwidth required for
 including the original text. All these messages were in the teens of kB,
 very tiny compared to the current internet speeds and sizes.



 Marek



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 Brass via CnC-List
 *Sent:* March-13-15 22:00
 *To:* 'Robert Boyer'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum



 Bob



 We each have the option to change our email settings so the original
 message string is not included in the new email when we reply to a message.
 That would eliminate all the repeated information and the very long message
 strings that cause so much trouble and band width cost for Stu.



 Sometimes I like to include all or part of the message to which I am
 responding, so others will know the context of my email. I find that I am
 frequently not responding to the last message on a given topic. But, hey,
 I'm old and forget to delete all the unwanted part of the string.



 My problem with a forum is that I need to find the time to go look at it
 and see what is being discussed. Messages from the list, OTOH, are in my
 inbox and actually give me something to look forward to when I open my
 email.



 Rick Brass

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Bill Bina via CnC-List]

  
  
An important part of the history of the
  list is the WHY of how it came to be. Originally, Stu's website
  was photos and scans, etc, and CC owners all followed a list
  sponsored by Sailnet. Sailnet got sold out from under us, and
  after a lengthy discussion hauntingly similar to this one, it was
  decided that no one wanted to move to another group hosted outside
  of something that one of us owned and could hand off to another
  member if that ever became necessary. Without this decision, we
  would have gone in multiple directions and died off as a group. At
  that time, there were more than one CC forums available. We
  needed ONE common point of communication in order to keep going. I
  think the list as it is has worked great, and see no advantage to
  going to a clumsy forum, that would also be competing with
  dime-a-dozen facebook groups and other web based options. If Stu
  is having issues maintaining the list, then lets address those
  issues rather than throwing out the baby with the bathwater. 
  
  Bill Bina
  
  On 3/14/2015 7:37 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
Stu,
First, thank you for all the work
you have put into setting up the list and maintaining it.  I
am glad this topic has come up.  It is somewhat difficult to
follow multiple emails which usually repeat what has already
been said.  If it could be done, I’d enthusiastically vote
for a forum.
The town that I live in has a
social networking forum called Nextdoor Harvard.  See https://harvardma.nextdoor.com/about_us/. 
  We have about 6000 residents of
which about 2000 have signed up for Nextdoor Harvard.  There
is no cost to operate the forum and it is very flexible.
I get one email a day that
summarizes new topics and new replies for that day.  (One
can select getting new topics as they are posted.)  If you
reply to a topic, you’ll automatically get other replies as
they occur.  There is a method to control who can be a
member.  You can browse by topic.  There is provision to
store documents for download and a classified section.  
If you are interested, I’ll
contact Nextdoor to see if they would allow a ‘neighborhood’
of boat owners.  I can also find out from the guy who
maintains the forum, what effort is required.
 
Regards,
Ron
Ronald
V. Ricci
S/V
Patriot
CC
37+
Bristol,
RI

  


  


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[Ron Ricci via CnC-List]

Josh,

 

Posting something new requires going online.  This ensures starts the topic.
Once you get the email notice, you can add to any topic on the notice.
You'll also get notice of other replies.  While you can keep copies of
emails, this forum really needs you to be online to use all the features.


 

I do have copies of emails on my phone but the amount of info kept is
limited without an internet connection.  I just tried putting my phone in
airplane mode and turning off Wi-Fi.  There's now nothing available in my
gmail 'All Mail'.  

 

Ron

 

From: Josh Muckley [mailto:muckl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 8:03 AM
To: CC List; Ron Ricci
Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

 

Ron,

I understand that you get notices via email but can you participate in the
forums via email?

For me, the strength of the list is that I don't have to do anything above
and beyond checking/reading/sending email.  I can control the stream with
all of the traditional email routing rules.

Users might find it useful to set up a rule which automatically moves ANY
email with cnc in the FROM: field into a new folder called CC List.
I did this when I started using the list and now it is almost like I have 2
email addresses.  I never get CC stuff in my main email stream.  I could
also turn off the notifications and/or sync for the CC List folder so that
I only looked at it when I felt like it not because it kept notifying me.

Others have given directions for searching the wealth of knowledge by using
some google magic and limiting the search criteria to the cnc-list site.  I
can't recall the exact syntax. 

The emails are also kept in my email archives till I delete them.  There
have been plenty of times I've been able to answer my own questions simply
by searching my own email archives...on my phone...without internet access.

Josh

On Mar 14, 2015 7:37 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

Stu,

First, thank you for all the work you have put into setting up the list and
maintaining it.  I am glad this topic has come up.  It is somewhat difficult
to follow multiple emails which usually repeat what has already been said.
If it could be done, I'd enthusiastically vote for a forum.

The town that I live in has a social networking forum called Nextdoor
Harvard.  See https://harvardma.nextdoor.com/about_us/.  We have about 6000
residents of which about 2000 have signed up for Nextdoor Harvard.  There is
no cost to operate the forum and it is very flexible.

I get one email a day that summarizes new topics and new replies for that
day.  (One can select getting new topics as they are posted.)  If you reply
to a topic, you'll automatically get other replies as they occur.  There is
a method to control who can be a member.  You can browse by topic.  There is
provision to store documents for download and a classified section.  

If you are interested, I'll contact Nextdoor to see if they would allow a
'neighborhood' of boat owners.  I can also find out from the guy who
maintains the forum, what effort is required.

 

Regards,

Ron

Ronald V. Ricci

S/V Patriot

CC 37+

Bristol, RI

 mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com ron.ri...@1968.usna.com

 

 

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On Mar 13, 2015 5:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to
have a Forum similar to cruisersforum or sailnet instead of an email
list (like this one).

 

PROS:

1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list

2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.

3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.

4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.

5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and
undesirable subscribers blocked.

6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view
the latest topics since your last visit.

 

CONS:

1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional
enhancements.

2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site.
()

3. Installation - I've done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

 

Bottom line - would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It
does not matter to me.

 

Stu

 


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[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Ron,

I understand that you get notices via email but can you participate in the
forums via email?

For me, the strength of the list is that I don't have to do anything above
and beyond checking/reading/sending email.  I can control the stream with
all of the traditional email routing rules.

Users might find it useful to set up a rule which automatically moves ANY
email with cnc in the FROM: field into a new folder called CC List.
I did this when I started using the list and now it is almost like I have 2
email addresses.  I never get CC stuff in my main email stream.  I could
also turn off the notifications and/or sync for the CC List folder so that
I only looked at it when I felt like it not because it kept notifying me.

Others have given directions for searching the wealth of knowledge by using
some google magic and limiting the search criteria to the cnc-list site.  I
can't recall the exact syntax.

The emails are also kept in my email archives till I delete them.  There
have been plenty of times I've been able to answer my own questions simply
by searching my own email archives...on my phone...without internet access.

Josh
On Mar 14, 2015 7:37 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 Stu,

 First, thank you for all the work you have put into setting up the list
 and maintaining it.  I am glad this topic has come up.  It is somewhat
 difficult to follow multiple emails which usually repeat what has already
 been said.  If it could be done, I'd enthusiastically vote for a forum.

 The town that I live in has a social networking forum called Nextdoor
 Harvard.  See https://harvardma.nextdoor.com/about_us/.  We have about
 6000 residents of which about 2000 have signed up for Nextdoor Harvard.
 There is no cost to operate the forum and it is very flexible.

 I get one email a day that summarizes new topics and new replies for that
 day.  (One can select getting new topics as they are posted.)  If you reply
 to a topic, you'll automatically get other replies as they occur.  There is
 a method to control who can be a member.  You can browse by topic.  There
 is provision to store documents for download and a classified section.

 If you are interested, I'll contact Nextdoor to see if they would allow a
 'neighborhood' of boat owners.  I can also find out from the guy who
 maintains the forum, what effort is required.



 Regards,

 *Ron*

 Ronald V. Ricci

 S/V Patriot

 CC 37+

 Bristol, RI

 ron.ri...@1968.usna.com




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 On Mar 13, 2015 5:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to
 have a Forum similar to cruisersforum or sailnet instead of an email
 list (like this one).



 PROS:

 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list

 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.

 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.

 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.

 5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and
 undesirable subscribers blocked.

 6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and
 view the latest topics since your last visit.



 CONS:

 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional
 enhancements.

 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting
 site. ()

 3. Installation - I've done it before and it does take some time.  And a
 bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.



 Bottom line - would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?
 It does not matter to me.



 Stu




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Re: Stus-List email list or forum

[Steve Thomas via CnC-List]

There is or was an archive, but since I've been here from the start I just 
use Microsoft Outlook and store all my emails in yearly files. It is easy to 
set up an email rule that directs all cnc list mail to a separate folder, as 
others have mentioned.


Steve

- Original Message - 
From: Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com

To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 08:58
Subject: Stus-List email list or forum


i'm new to this list, but have found it frustrating to try to search for 
subject matter, rather than re-asking the same questions over and over 
again, until someone posted how to search from google. I'm somewhat less 
frustrated now and find the list easier to use. In my experience the forum 
format has been easier.

thanks
Brad
1985 CC 33 MK II




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[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

BTW - The most CC like forum I know of is the Moyer Marine Atomic 4 forum. 
They have friendly people, support the Atomic 4 very well, and keep the flames, 
trolls, and spammers off. They OWN THE FORUM, it is not a hosted by 
Google/Yahoo/Facebook/etc.
I run a website for a flying event  http://www.tangierhollyrun.com/ and I 
totally gave up on a forum. I either had to spend time approving users or it 
got totally taken over by Nigerian Royalty with banking issues. We reverted to 
an email list that exists for pilots in the DC area. They also debated going 
Forum and stayed with email.

BTW - I am in mailing list hell with a group for flying amateur radio 
operators. I started it on Yahoo a very long time ago - maybe the mid/late 90s, 
and it pretty much died by the year 2000. In 2014  a bunch of spammers got on 
somehow and I cannot kill the list. Whatever email address I had back then is 
long gone and Yahoo WILL NOT let me access the list controls anymore. There is 
literally no way I can kill it. We need to OWN the means of production here, if 
I can apply Marxist theory to emails.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina

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[Ron Ricci via CnC-List]

Stu,

First, thank you for all the work you have put into setting up the list and
maintaining it.  I am glad this topic has come up.  It is somewhat difficult
to follow multiple emails which usually repeat what has already been said.
If it could be done, I'd enthusiastically vote for a forum.

The town that I live in has a social networking forum called Nextdoor
Harvard.  See https://harvardma.nextdoor.com/about_us/.  We have about 6000
residents of which about 2000 have signed up for Nextdoor Harvard.  There is
no cost to operate the forum and it is very flexible.

I get one email a day that summarizes new topics and new replies for that
day.  (One can select getting new topics as they are posted.)  If you reply
to a topic, you'll automatically get other replies as they occur.  There is
a method to control who can be a member.  You can browse by topic.  There is
provision to store documents for download and a classified section.  

If you are interested, I'll contact Nextdoor to see if they would allow a
'neighborhood' of boat owners.  I can also find out from the guy who
maintains the forum, what effort is required.

 

Regards,

Ron

Ronald V. Ricci

S/V Patriot

CC 37+

Bristol, RI

 mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com ron.ri...@1968.usna.com

 

 

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On Mar 13, 2015 5:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to
have a Forum similar to cruisersforum or sailnet instead of an email
list (like this one).

 

PROS:

1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list

2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.

3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.

4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.

5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and
undesirable subscribers blocked.

6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view
the latest topics since your last visit.

 

CONS:

1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional
enhancements.

2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site.
()

3. Installation - I've done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

 

Bottom line - would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It
does not matter to me.

 

Stu

 


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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Bill Bina via CnC-List]

An important part of the history of the list is the WHY of how it came 
to be. Originally, Stu's website was photos and scans, etc, and CC 
owners all followed a list sponsored by Sailnet. Sailnet got sold out 
from under us, and after a lengthy discussion hauntingly similar to this 
one, it was decided that no one wanted to move to another group hosted 
outside of something that one of us owned and could hand off to another 
member if that ever became necessary. Without this decision, we would 
have gone in multiple directions and died off as a group. At that time, 
there were more than one CC forums available. We needed ONE common 
point of communication in order to keep going. I think the list as it is 
has worked great, and see no advantage to going to a clumsy forum, that 
would also be competing with dime-a-dozen facebook groups and other web 
based options. If Stu is having issues maintaining the list, then lets 
address those issues rather than throwing out the baby with the bathwater.


Bill Bina

On 3/14/2015 7:37 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List wrote:

Stu,

First, thank you for all the work you have put into setting up the list
and maintaining it.  I am glad this topic has come up.  It is somewhat
difficult to follow multiple emails which usually repeat what has
already been said.  If it could be done, I’d enthusiastically vote for a
forum.

The town that I live in has a social networking forum called Nextdoor
Harvard.  See https://harvardma.nextdoor.com/about_us/. We have about
6000 residents of which about 2000 have signed up for Nextdoor Harvard.
There is no cost to operate the forum and it is very flexible.

I get one email a day that summarizes new topics and new replies for
that day.  (One can select getting new topics as they are posted.)  If
you reply to a topic, you’ll automatically get other replies as they
occur.  There is a method to control who can be a member.  You can
browse by topic.  There is provision to store documents for download and
a classified section.

If you are interested, I’ll contact Nextdoor to see if they would allow
a ‘neighborhood’ of boat owners.  I can also find out from the guy who
maintains the forum, what effort is required.

Regards,

/Ron/

Ronald V. Ricci

S/V Patriot

CC 37+

Bristol, RI

ron.ri...@1968.usna.com mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com



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[schiller via CnC-List]

I like the list.  I am on several forums for antique motorcycles, 5th 
wheels and super duty trucks.  I find that I really don't follow those 
forums as much as I do our list.


Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(CC 35, Mark I)
Corsair
Thawing in the beautiful harbor of South Haven, Michigan




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[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

List please. The list is easier for me to access on my phone underway.
Forums have HUGE problems with spam and trolls. Most of us are on one or
more sailing forums anyway. They have their place, but something about the
forums seems to generate trolling and flame wars in a way this list never
does.

Joe Della Barba
j...@dellabarba.com

Coquina


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Re: Stus-List email list or forum now spring garage sale

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

No matter what form it takes, I think we can all agree that the list/photo 
album makes owning an old CC much better than most other types.
I have some thru-hulls sitting around that have never been used. I'll find a 
good one and pick a good price for it. Someone can send the money straight to 
Stu and I'll mail it to you. I'll post some details when I dig it out.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
CC 35 MK I

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[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

I vote list.

I am on a whole passel of forums and although I like them just fine, if I have 
to remember yet another forum name and password sequence to log in with I’ll 
shoot myself…

I have an all Mac, all the time” setup and my CC list emails use a Apple 
account conditional rule to shunt off to a CC folder. There the emails are 
grouped by subject and I can open that grouping up and pick and chose. Pretty 
bog standard email software.

Forums are great but I think that they need a critical mass to be effective. 
This list isn’t really that large given the number of regular responders and 
for me has a nice feel to it. With only a few voices in the forum it might seem 
kinda empty.

Although, the thought of a dedicated forum category labeled “Foredeck Cow” has 
a certain appeal to it…

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 CC 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/
 On Mar 14, 2015, at 8:02 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Ron,
 
 I understand that you get notices via email but can you participate in the 
 forums via email?
 
 For me, the strength of the list is that I don't have to do anything above 
 and beyond checking/reading/sending email.  I can control the stream with all 
 of the traditional email routing rules.
 
 Users might find it useful to set up a rule which automatically moves ANY 
 email with cnc in the FROM: field into a new folder called CC List.  I 
 did this when I started using the list and now it is almost like I have 2 
 email addresses.  I never get CC stuff in my main email stream.  I could 
 also turn off the notifications and/or sync for the CC List folder so that I 
 only looked at it when I felt like it not because it kept notifying me.
 
 Others have given directions for searching the wealth of knowledge by using 
 some google magic and limiting the search criteria to the cnc-list site.  I 
 can't recall the exact syntax.
 
 The emails are also kept in my email archives till I delete them.  There have 
 been plenty of times I've been able to answer my own questions simply by 
 searching my own email archives...on my phone...without internet access.
 
 Josh
 
 On Mar 14, 2015 7:37 AM, Ron Ricci via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 Stu,
 
 First, thank you for all the work you have put into setting up the list and 
 maintaining it.  I am glad this topic has come up.  It is somewhat difficult 
 to follow multiple emails which usually repeat what has already been said.  
 If it could be done, I’d enthusiastically vote for a forum.
 
 The town that I live in has a social networking forum called Nextdoor 
 Harvard.  See https://harvardma.nextdoor.com/about_us/ 
 https://harvardma.nextdoor.com/about_us/.  We have about 6000 residents of 
 which about 2000 have signed up for Nextdoor Harvard.  There is no cost to 
 operate the forum and it is very flexible.
 
 I get one email a day that summarizes new topics and new replies for that 
 day.  (One can select getting new topics as they are posted.)  If you reply 
 to a topic, you’ll automatically get other replies as they occur.  There is a 
 method to control who can be a member.  You can browse by topic.  There is 
 provision to store documents for download and a classified section. 
 
 If you are interested, I’ll contact Nextdoor to see if they would allow a 
 ‘neighborhood’ of boat owners.  I can also find out from the guy who 
 maintains the forum, what effort is required.
 
  
 
 Regards,
 
 Ron
 
 Ronald V. Ricci
 S/V Patriot
 
 CC 37+
 
 Bristol, RI
 
 ron.ri...@1968.usna.com mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com
  
 
  
 
 List
 
 On Mar 13, 2015 5:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have 
 a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list 
 (like this one).
 
  
 
 PROS:
 
 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
 
 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
 
 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
 
 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
 
 5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
 undesirable subscribers blocked.
 
 6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view 
 the latest topics since your last visit.
 
  
 
 CONS:
 
 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
 enhancements.
 
 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
 ()
 
 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
 more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.
 
  
 
 Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
 does not matter to me.
 
  
 
 Stu
 
  
 
 
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[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

The list is the best.  That way I know I’ve read everything…

 

Jake

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via 
CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 5:32 PM
To: CC Email List
Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum

 

Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a 
“Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like 
this one).

 

PROS:

1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list

2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.

3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.

4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.

5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.

6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view the 
latest topics since your last visit.

 

CONS:

1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.

2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
()

3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

 

Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
does not matter to me.

 

Stu

 

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[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

4) We would need a forum for removal of Marvel Mystery oil from various 
appendages…   :^)

I, for one, would hate to see Wal go elsewhere...

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Mar 14, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:

 I vote list.  1) Sometimes I can't get good web access on the boat. 2) More 
 importantly, the forum format makes it easy to ignore topics, and I learn a 
 lot listening to folks with problems/solutions that don't initially seem to 
 be relevant.  3) We would need a forum for drunken rants.
 
 Wal

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

That's already been addressed.  In short, yes.  Almost all forums have a
means for the users to be updated via email.  Individuals can usually
select what triggers an email notification.  The thing that sets the forum
apart (and is undesirable) is that a response to a post would still require
logging into the forum.

Josh
On Mar 14, 2015 12:54 PM, RPH via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 I am a relative newbie here, but I would very much prefer a FORUM and I
 would certainly make a donation to help cover the costs.

 Frankly, I am a little surprised that there is so much support for the
 list over a forum format (though I obviously respect opposing points of
 view) . Stupid question: is it possible to have both so that emails sent on
 a particular subject show up as posts on a thread identified by that
 subject?

 Robert H.


  Original message 
 From: Linda via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Date: 03-14-2015 9:28 AM (GMT-08:00)
 To: s...@cncphotoalbum.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

 FORUM

 On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 17:32:12 -0400 Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 writes:

  Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to
 have a Forum similar to cruisersforum or sailnet instead of an email
 list (like this one).

 PROS:
 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
 5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and
 undesirable subscribers blocked.
 6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and
 view the latest topics since your last visit.

 CONS:
 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional
 enhancements.
 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting
 site. ()
 3. Installation - I've done it before and it does take some time.  And a
 bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

 Bottom line - would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?
 It does not matter to me.

 Stu




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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

You, kind of, have it already - in the archives.

 

Marek

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of RPH via 
CnC-List
Sent: March-14-15 12:54
To: airdale...@juno.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

 

I am a relative newbie here, but I would very much prefer a FORUM and I would 
certainly make a donation to help cover the costs. 

 

Frankly, I am a little surprised that there is so much support for the list 
over a forum format (though I obviously respect opposing points of view) . 
Stupid question: is it possible to have both so that emails sent on a 
particular subject show up as posts on a thread identified by that subject? 

 

Robert H. 





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Re: Stus-List email list or forum

[Curtis via CnC-List]

I agree. I don't fully understand nor pertisapate, I don't want to start a
conversation that the guy's just had a few weeks back. So I find me self
using Sailnet, salty south east cruiser  net.
On Mar 14, 2015 8:59 AM, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 i'm new to this list, but have found it frustrating to try to search for
 subject matter, rather than re-asking the same questions over and over
 again, until someone posted how to search from google. I'm somewhat less
 frustrated now and find the list easier to use. In my experience the forum
 format has been easier.
 thanks
 Brad
 1985 CC 33 MK II

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[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Joe makes a very good point here

Marek
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Re: Stus-List email list or forum

[Indigo via CnC-List]

I for one do not mind the same questions or conversations being reposted.  I 
like watching the conversations to pick up tidbits from those on the list far 
more experienced / skilled than I.  And working on the just in time 
principle, someone invariably posts a relevant question just as I am about to - 
or should - undertake a project or maintenance activity.  

I probably don't know enough about how forums work, but I personally like the 
ability to quickly browse  unread email strings from the list to see which I 
want to read. I doubt if I would go to a forum except when I needed something 
from the group - and if others' actions are similar, the numbers and qualities 
of responses to any questions posed could be much reduced. 

--
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SOUTHPORT CT

 On Mar 14, 2015, at 11:07, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 I don't want to start a conversation that the guy's just had a few weeks back.

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[RPH via CnC-List]

I am a relative newbie here, but I would very much prefer a FORUM and I would 
certainly make a donation to help cover the costs. 

Frankly, I am a little surprised that there is so much support for the list 
over a forum format (though I obviously respect opposing points of view) . 
Stupid question: is it possible to have both so that emails sent on a 
particular subject show up as posts on a thread identified by that subject? 

Robert H. 


 Original message 
From: Linda via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Date: 03-14-2015  9:28 AM  (GMT-08:00) 
To: s...@cncphotoalbum.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum 

FORUM
 
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 17:32:12 -0400 Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
writes:
Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a 
“Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like 
this one).
 
PROS:
1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.
6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view the 
latest topics since your last visit.
 
CONS:
1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.
2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
()
3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.
 
Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
does not matter to me.
 
Stu
 
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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Wally Bryant via CnC-List]

I vote list.  1) Sometimes I can't get good web access on the boat. 2) 
More importantly, the forum format makes it easy to ignore topics, and I 
learn a lot listening to folks with problems/solutions that don't 
initially seem to be relevant.  3) We would need a forum for drunken rants.


Wal

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Re: Stus-List email list or forum

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

As a technical reference I like how a closed forum works. Who knows, I may need
to look up the best way to clean off Marvel Mystery Oil someday.

For the mix of technical, QA, social and banter the email digest works well 
for me.
I do tend to read in batches, sometimes days apart, so end up responding to 
things late.

I would contribute to adding a forum to the CNC site. The key points for me 
would be:

- simple password protection for at least posting
- ability to upload reasonable sized photos
- optional configurable email notification when something is posted
- ability to update / edit / add to something like a technical document

I understand this has some overlap with the existing website.

Michael Brown
Windburn
CC 30-1
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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Linda via CnC-List]

FORUM

On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 17:32:12 -0400 Stu via CnC-List
cnc-list@cnc-list.com writes:
Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to
have a �Forum� similar to �cruisersforum� or �sailnet� instead of an
email list (like this one).
 
PROS:
1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and
undesirable subscribers blocked.
6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and
view the latest topics since your last visit.
 
CONS:
1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional
enhancements.
2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting
site. ()
3. Installation � I�ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a
bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.
 
Bottom line � would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list? 
It does not matter to me.
 
Stu
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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

just another option.

As someone else said, a Forum might be easier to search, but we can never
have enough threards about window replacements!
I'm in a Google Group foe CHESS - Chesapeake Bay Shrt Handed Sailing - and
it seems to work well, although yahoo mail users seems to have trouble.


Joel




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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

I like the email list, too.  I never understood the appeal of the list digest, 
other than reducing the number of emails received in a day.  I’d rather watch 
the email threads as they unfold.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Mar 13, 2015, at 7:43 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:

 I agree with Dennis C and what seems to be the majority, I prefer the list. 
 Unless a forum format would be easier for you, Stu.
  
  
 Rick Brass
 Washington, NC

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

Hi, Bob — I, too, am a Mac/iOS guy.  The easiest way to do this, and I just did 
it with your message, is to highlight the text in the original email before you 
hit the “reply” button; then only the text you highlighted will be quoted in 
the reply.  It works great!

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Mar 13, 2015, at 9:00 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:

 My iPhone and my iPad have been set to thread view and it doesn't eliminate 
 the copied text.  However, if there is a setting in an email account that 
 eliminates copied text, I'd be interested in hearing about it.

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

If we had a Forum, odds are I never would have even seen this question.  Stu 
does a great job and we have a wonderful community here.  My only gripe is that 
some listers don't remember to trip their posts...but I can live with that.   

But if we are going to abandon the list, maybe we should do. a Twitter hashtag 
instead... :D

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 CC 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200


 On Mar 14, 2015, at 9:00 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 
 Message: 8
 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 10:51:53 -0500
 From: Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net
 To: Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum
 Message-ID: 85fffde8-d750-4f73-8141-6c7aea8ee...@postaudio.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
 
 I like the email list, too.  I never understood the appeal of the list 
 digest, other than reducing the number of emails received in a day.  I?d 
 rather watch the email threads as they unfold.
 
 Fred Street -- Minneapolis
 S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
 
 On Mar 13, 2015, at 7:43 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 
 I agree with Dennis C and what seems to be the majority, I prefer the list. 
 Unless a forum format would be easier for you, Stu.
 
 
 Rick Brass
 Washington, NC

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

List. 
Gary
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Irvin via CnC-List 
  To: Dennis C. ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 6:53 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum


  I'd  stay with the list, Stu

  You never know what you're going t learn and it's easy to delete what doesn't 
 interest you. I am grateful for the every time I access it. Many thanks.

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  From: Dennis C. via CnC-List
  Sent: ‎2015-‎03-‎13 6:16 PM
  To: Stu; CnClist
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum


  1)  I can set my email to thread view.  No advantage for me to go to forum.

  2) How mobile friendly would forum be?  I read a lot of the list mails on my 
smartphone.


  I'm old and don't like change.  Slight preference to maintain current system.


  Dennis C.



  On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:

Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to 
have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list 
(like this one).

PROS:
1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.
6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view 
the latest topics since your last visit.

CONS:
1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.
2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
()
3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a 
bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  
It does not matter to me.

Stu


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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[ahycrace--- via CnC-List]

list

Gark Kolc
Liberty
Apponaug Harbor Warwick RI


 Neil Gallagher via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: 
 Vote: List
 
 Stu, if the costs are not covered routinely by donations, I suggest you 
 let us know that too.
 
 Neil Gallagher
 Weatherly, 35-1
 Glen Cove, NY
 
 
 On 3/13/2015 5:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List wrote:
  Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like 
  to have a Forum similar to cruisersforum or sailnet instead of 
  an email list (like this one).
  PROS:
  1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
  2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
  3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
  4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
  5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted 
  and undesirable subscribers blocked.
  6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and 
  view the latest topics since your last visit.
  CONS:
  1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on 
  additional enhancements.
  2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting 
  site. ()
  3. Installation -- I've done it before and it does take some time.  
  And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.
  Bottom line -- would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this 
  list?  It does not matter to me.
  Stu
 
 
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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

We vote list and a great big thank you to Stu for keeping this going.



To make things easier we have OUTLOOK rule set so anything from list goes to 
its own folder which is then arranged by conversation.  We also have a separate 
folder to receive posts we want to keep for future reference.  Typically check 
once a day.  Easy to read, then delete all I don’t want.  Also, doesn’t the 
photo album keep posts in a forum format as well??



John and Maryann

Legacy III

1982 CC 34

Noank, CT



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via 
CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 5:32 PM
To: CC Email List
Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum



Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a 
“Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like 
this one).



PROS:

1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list

2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.

3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.

4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.

5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.

6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view the 
latest topics since your last visit.



CONS:

1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.

2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
()

3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.



Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
does not matter to me.



Stu





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[Jack Shincke via CnC-List]

List.

Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 14, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Linda via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 emails.

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

List
On Mar 13, 2015 5:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

   Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like
 to have a Forum similar to cruisersforum or sailnet instead of an
 email list (like this one).

 PROS:
 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
 5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and
 undesirable subscribers blocked.
 6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and
 view the latest topics since your last visit.

 CONS:
 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional
 enhancements.
 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting
 site. ()
 3. Installation - I've done it before and it does take some time.  And a
 bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

 Bottom line - would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?
 It does not matter to me.

 Stu


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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Sam Salter via CnC-List]

I'm easy either way.
I'll go with the majority.

sam :-)

On 2015-03-13, at 3:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have 
 a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list 
 (like this one).
  
 PROS:
 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
 5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
 undesirable subscribers blocked.
 6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view 
 the latest topics since your last visit.
  
 CONS:
 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
 enhancements.
 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
 ()
 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
 more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.
  
 Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
 does not matter to me.
  
 Stu
  
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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Russ Melody via CnC-List]

HI Stu,

List please.

This list feels more like family than any forum I 
used to visit. I say, ...used to visit. 'cause 
somehow I just drift away from them eventually.
It's so much nicer when the messages come to me. 
(Even the hundred or more after a vacation :)


Cheers, Russ


At 02:32 PM 13/03/2015, you wrote:
Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated 
that they would like to have a “Forum” 
similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” 
instead of an email list (like this one).


PROS:
1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
5. Easily moderated by more than one 
person.  Threads can be deleted and undesirable subscribers blocked.
6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site 
at your convenience and view the latest topics since your last visit.


CONS:
1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 
depending on additional enhancements.
2. Might (???) require additional disk space and 
bandwidth on hosting site. ()
3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it 
does takee some time.  And a bit more time 
involved to get it tweeked to perfection.


Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or 
continue using this list?  It does not matter to me.


Stu

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Neil Gallagher via CnC-List]

Vote: List

Stu, if the costs are not covered routinely by donations, I suggest you 
let us know that too.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY


On 3/13/2015 5:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List wrote:
Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like 
to have a Forum similar to cruisersforum or sailnet instead of 
an email list (like this one).

PROS:
1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted 
and undesirable subscribers blocked.
6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and 
view the latest topics since your last visit.

CONS:
1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on 
additional enhancements.
2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting 
site. ()
3. Installation -- I've done it before and it does take some time.  
And a bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.
Bottom line -- would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this 
list?  It does not matter to me.

Stu


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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Ed Dooley via CnC-List]

Yes, people can customize how they receive emails in ways to make them more 
convenient.
Ed

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 13, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess it has never bothered me cause my gmail and Gmail client auto hide 
 the quoted text AND they auto group emails with the same subject.  It's not 
 always necessary but sometimes it is nice to be able to see what exact 
 referance someone was making simply by looking at the quoted text. 
 
 I like the fact that I don't have to go to a forum app or website to see the 
 message stream or to participate.  
 I like being able to quickly and easily take the conversion of list and then 
 back again without leaving the email client.  
 I like how lightweight and ubiquitous email is.  No fancy graphics to take up 
 bandwidth.  
 Maybe people think it's creepy but I like that we all have each others email 
 and can easily contact one another with something off list via email if 
 needed.  Edd with Star Trek stuff, Fred with electronics questions, Joel for 
 offshore races and Jake for a fix from a Midnight Mistress.
 
 Warm regards to all,
 Josh Muckley
 
 PS:
 Just so you all know to what I'm refering I've quoted the text from the 
 previous email.
 
 On Mar 13, 2015 8:56 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 Stu's original listing was copied and resent 11 times in 12 messages!  Does 
 everyone really like this?  It is completely unnecessary and would probably 
 be eliminated in a forum format.  That's really the primary change--the 
 people would be the same.
 
 Bob Boyer
 S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230
 email: dainyr...@icloud.com 
 blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
 
 There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply 
 messing about in boats.  --Kenneth Grahame
 
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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Bob

 

We each have the option to change our email settings so the original message 
string is not included in the new email when we reply to a message. That would 
eliminate all the repeated information and the very long message strings that 
cause so much trouble and band width cost for Stu.

 

Sometimes I like to include all or part of the message to which I am 
responding, so others will know the context of my email. I find that I am 
frequently not responding to the last message on a given topic. But, hey, I’m 
old and forget to delete all the unwanted part of the string.

 

My problem with a forum is that I need to find the time to go look at it and 
see what is being discussed. Messages from the list, OTOH, are in my inbox and 
actually give me something to look forward to when I open my email.

 

Rick Brass

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Boyer 
via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 8:56 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum

 

Stu's original listing was copied and resent 11 times in 12 messages!   It is 
completely unnecessary and would probably be eliminated in a forum format.  

 

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

The pros for a forum are what Stu said. 

 

A few major pros for the list are that it can be viewed on any platform, can be 
read off-line, requires much less bandwidth etc.

 

I would say that it works fine, as is.

 

Marek

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Burt 
Stratton via CnC-List
Sent: March-13-15 19:06
To: 'Stu'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

 

Stu, the list is far better than any forum I have “joined” but if the forum is 
easier for you I would support it

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via 
CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 5:32 PM
To: CC Email List
Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum

 

Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a 
“Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like 
this one).

 

PROS:

1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list

2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.

3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.

4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.

5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.

6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view the 
latest topics since your last visit.

 

CONS:

1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.

2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
()

3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

 

Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
does not matter to me.

 

Stu

 

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I guess it has never bothered me cause my gmail and Gmail client auto hide
the quoted text AND they auto group emails with the same subject.  It's not
always necessary but sometimes it is nice to be able to see what exact
referance someone was making simply by looking at the quoted text.

I like the fact that I don't have to go to a forum app or website to see
the message stream or to participate.
I like being able to quickly and easily take the conversion of list and
then back again without leaving the email client.
I like how lightweight and ubiquitous email is.  No fancy graphics to take
up bandwidth.
Maybe people think it's creepy but I like that we all have each others
email and can easily contact one another with something off list via email
if needed.  Edd with Star Trek stuff, Fred with electronics questions, Joel
for offshore races and Jake for a fix from a Midnight Mistress.

Warm regards to all,
Josh Muckley

PS:
Just so you all know to what I'm refering I've quoted the text from the
previous email.
On Mar 13, 2015 8:56 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 Stu's original listing was copied and resent 11 times in 12 messages!
 Does everyone really like this?  It is completely unnecessary and would
 probably be eliminated in a forum format.  That's really the primary
 change--the people would be the same.

 Bob Boyer
 S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230
 email: dainyr...@icloud.com
 blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com

 There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply
 messing about in boats.  --Kenneth Grahame

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

For the same reasons as Josh (and probably many others) my Gmail and Gmail
client auto hide the quoted text AND they auto group emails with the same
subject.   Perhaps some of you just need a better email client.

I'm good with the list.

Ken H.

On 13 March 2015 at 21:46, Robert Boyer via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 I much prefer a forum!  It would end the repeated copying of text and
 resending it over and over.  I've read the notice to mariners about ice on
 the northern Chesapeake Bay about 10 times now because listers think they
 have to copy it I guess so that everyone knows what they are responding
 to.  There are pages and pages of unnecessary repeated information on this
 list.

 On a forum, the discussion would be on a topic and it would just flow like
 a conversation.  As far as I'm concerned, a forum is a lot better.  Just
 google cruisers forum and look at their format...

 Bob

 Bob Boyer
 S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230
 email: dainyr...@icloud.com
 blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com

 There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply
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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Someone mentioned a yahoo group. I am a member of a few and they send messages 
(e-mails, like this list), but at the same time allow to participate in them 
like in a Forum (on a web site, following threads, allowing photo albums etc.).

 

I already voted for the list, but possibly that option can be investigated, as 
well.

 

On the flip side, let's not overestimate the bandwidth required for including 
the original text. All these messages were in the teens of kB, very tiny 
compared to the current internet speeds and sizes.

 

Marek

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass 
via CnC-List
Sent: March-13-15 22:00
To: 'Robert Boyer'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

 

Bob

 

We each have the option to change our email settings so the original message 
string is not included in the new email when we reply to a message. That would 
eliminate all the repeated information and the very long message strings that 
cause so much trouble and band width cost for Stu.

 

Sometimes I like to include all or part of the message to which I am 
responding, so others will know the context of my email. I find that I am 
frequently not responding to the last message on a given topic. But, hey, I’m 
old and forget to delete all the unwanted part of the string.

 

My problem with a forum is that I need to find the time to go look at it and 
see what is being discussed. Messages from the list, OTOH, are in my inbox and 
actually give me something to look forward to when I open my email.

 

Rick Brass

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Excellent point Danny!
On Mar 13, 2015 9:04 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 As I recall, Wally can't do the forum. That alone is reason enough fur me
 to vote email list

 Danny


 From my Android phone


  Original message 
 From: Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Date: 03/13/2015 5:36 PM (GMT-05:00)
 To: Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com,cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum


 I'm easy either way.
 I'll go with the majority.

 sam :-)

 On 2015-03-13, at 3:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to
 have a Forum similar to cruisersforum or sailnet instead of an email
 list (like this one).

 PROS:
 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
 5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and
 undesirable subscribers blocked.
 6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and
 view the latest topics since your last visit.

 CONS:
 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional
 enhancements.
 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting
 site. ()
 3. Installation - I've done it before and it does take some time.  And a
 bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

 Bottom line - would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?
 It does not matter to me.

 Stu


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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

For anyone that is interested, this is the address for the Yahoo CC group.
It is, to be kind, dormant.
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/CnCSailBoats/info

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 13 March 2015 at 20:30, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Someone mentioned a yahoo group. I am a member of a few and they send
 messages (e-mails, like this list), but at the same time allow to
 participate in them like in a Forum (on a web site, following threads,
 allowing photo albums etc.).



 I already voted for the list, but possibly that option can be
 investigated, as well.



 On the flip side, let's not overestimate the bandwidth required for
 including the original text. All these messages were in the teens of kB,
 very tiny compared to the current internet speeds and sizes.



 Marek



 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick
 Brass via CnC-List
 *Sent:* March-13-15 22:00
 *To:* 'Robert Boyer'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum



 Bob



 We each have the option to change our email settings so the original
 message string is not included in the new email when we reply to a message.
 That would eliminate all the repeated information and the very long message
 strings that cause so much trouble and band width cost for Stu.



 Sometimes I like to include all or part of the message to which I am
 responding, so others will know the context of my email. I find that I am
 frequently not responding to the last message on a given topic. But, hey,
 I’m old and forget to delete all the unwanted part of the string.



 My problem with a forum is that I need to find the time to go look at it
 and see what is being discussed. Messages from the list, OTOH, are in my
 inbox and actually give me something to look forward to when I open my
 email.



 Rick Brass

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Sounds like a couple big “ifs” out there, but assuming the cost and maintenance 
headache is less for Stu, I’ll vote forum

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via 
CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 4:32 PM
To: CC Email List
Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum

 

Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a 
“Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like 
this one).

 

PROS:

1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list

2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.

3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.

4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.

5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.

6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view the 
latest topics since your last visit.

 

CONS:

1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.

2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
()

3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

 

Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
does not matter to me.

 

Stu

 

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

I'd  stay with the list, Stu

You never know what you're going t learn and it's easy to delete what doesn't  
interest you. I am grateful for the every time I access it. Many thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: ‎2015-‎03-‎13 6:16 PM
To: Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com; CnClist cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

1)  I can set my email to thread view.  No advantage for me to go to forum.

2) How mobile friendly would forum be?  I read a lot of the list mails on my 
smartphone.


I'm old and don't like change.  Slight preference to maintain current system.


Dennis C.



On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a 
“Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like 
this one).
 
PROS:
1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.
6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view the 
latest topics since your last visit.
 
CONS:
1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.
2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
()
3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.
 
Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
does not matter to me.
 
Stu
 

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Martin DeYoung via CnC-List]

I prefer the list.

There are plenty of forums.  This list is different / better because of the CC 
focus and limited participation (not invaded by non CC owners and alumni).

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 CC 43
Seattle

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via 
CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 2:32 PM
To: CC Email List
Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum

Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a 
“Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like 
this one).

PROS:
1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.
6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view the 
latest topics since your last visit.

CONS:
1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.
2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
()
3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
does not matter to me.

Stu

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[D Harben via CnC-List]

List

Don
Life



 On Mar 13, 2015, at 6:51 PM, Mike Brannon via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 List.
 
 Sent from my iPad Mini
 
 On Mar 13, 2015, at 17:32, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to 
 have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email 
 list (like this one).
  
 PROS:
 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
 5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
 undesirable subscribers blocked.
 6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view 
 the latest topics since your last visit.
  
 CONS:
 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
 enhancements.
 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
 ()
 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
 more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.
  
 Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
 does not matter to me.
  
 Stu
  
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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Steve Thomas via CnC-List]

I prefer the list, but if the question was existential, a forum would be better 
than nothing. 

Steve Thomas
  - Original Message - 
  From: Stu via CnC-List 
  To: CC Email List 
  Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 17:32
  Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum


  Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have 
a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list 
(like this one).

  PROS:
  1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
  2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
  3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
  4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
  5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.
  6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view 
the latest topics since your last visit.

  CONS:
  1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.
  2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
()
  3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

  Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
does not matter to me.

  Stu



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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Al Serrato via CnC-List]

I'm happy with the list as well.

Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 13, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 I would vote list. 
 
 
 All the best,
 
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 On Mar 13, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Paul Fountain via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 I'm with Dennis ... Old and like email !
 
 Paul. :)
 
 
 On Mar 13, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 
 1)  I can set my email to thread view.  No advantage for me to go to forum.
 2) How mobile friendly would forum be?  I read a lot of the list mails on my 
 smartphone.
 
 I'm old and don't like change.  Slight preference to maintain current system.
 
 Dennis C.
 
 On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to 
 have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email 
 list (like this one).
  
 PROS:
 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
 5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
 undesirable subscribers blocked.
 6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view 
 the latest topics since your last visit.
  
 CONS:
 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
 enhancements.
 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
 ()
 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a 
 bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.
  
 Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  
 It does not matter to me.
  
 Stu
  
 
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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

As I recall, Wally can't do the forum. That alone is reason enough fur me to 
vote email list

Danny


From my Android phone

 Original message 
From: Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Date: 03/13/2015  5:36 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Stu s...@cncphotoalbum.com,cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum 
 
I'm easy either way.
I'll go with the majority.

sam :-)

On 2015-03-13, at 3:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a 
“Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like 
this one).
 
PROS:
1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.
6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view the 
latest topics since your last visit.
 
CONS:
1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.
2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
()
3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.
 
Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
does not matter to me.
 
Stu
 
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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Paul Fountain via CnC-List]

I'm with Dennis ... Old and like email !

Paul. :)


On Mar 13, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

1)  I can set my email to thread view.  No advantage for me to go to forum.
2) How mobile friendly would forum be?  I read a lot of the list mails on my 
smartphone.

I'm old and don't like change.  Slight preference to maintain current system.

Dennis C.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a 
Forum similar to cruisersforum or sailnet instead of an email list (like 
this one).

PROS:
1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.
6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view the 
latest topics since your last visit.

CONS:
1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.
2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
()
3. Installation - I've done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

Bottom line - would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
does not matter to me.

Stu


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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

I agree with Dennis C and what seems to be the majority, I prefer the list. 
Unless a forum format would be easier for you, Stu. 

 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 7:24 PM
To: Paul Fountain; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

 

I would vote list. 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

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On Mar 13, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Paul Fountain via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com  wrote:

I'm with Dennis ... Old and like email !

Paul. :) 

 


On Mar 13, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com  wrote:

1)  I can set my email to thread view.  No advantage for me to go to forum.

2) How mobile friendly would forum be?  I read a lot of the list mails on my 
smartphone.

I'm old and don't like change.  Slight preference to maintain current system.

Dennis C.

 

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com  wrote:

Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a 
“Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like 
this one).

 

PROS:

1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list

2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.

3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.

4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.

5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.

6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view the 
latest topics since your last visit.

 

CONS:

1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.

2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
()

3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

 

Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
does not matter to me.

 

Stu

 


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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

1)  I can set my email to thread view.  No advantage for me to go to
forum.
2) How mobile friendly would forum be?  I read a lot of the list mails on
my smartphone.

I'm old and don't like change.  Slight preference to maintain current
system.

Dennis C.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

   Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like
 to have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an
 email list (like this one).

 PROS:
 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
 5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and
 undesirable subscribers blocked.
 6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and
 view the latest topics since your last visit.

 CONS:
 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional
 enhancements.
 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting
 site. ()
 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a
 bit more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

 Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?
 It does not matter to me.

 Stu


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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Burt Stratton via CnC-List]

Stu, the list is far better than any forum I have “joined” but if the forum is 
easier for you I would support it

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stu via 
CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 5:32 PM
To: CC Email List
Subject: Stus-List Email List or Forum

 

Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have a 
“Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list (like 
this one).

 

PROS:

1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list

2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.

3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.

4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.

5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
undesirable subscribers blocked.

6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view the 
latest topics since your last visit.

 

CONS:

1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
enhancements.

2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
()

3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.

 

Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
does not matter to me.

 

Stu

 

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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

I would vote list. 


All the best,

Edd

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On Mar 13, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Paul Fountain via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:

I'm with Dennis ... Old and like email !

Paul. :)


On Mar 13, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
wrote:

 1)  I can set my email to thread view.  No advantage for me to go to forum.
 2) How mobile friendly would forum be?  I read a lot of the list mails on my 
 smartphone.
 
 I'm old and don't like change.  Slight preference to maintain current system.
 
 Dennis C.
 
 On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
 wrote:
 Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to 
 have a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email 
 list (like this one).
  
 PROS:
 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
 5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
 undesirable subscribers blocked.
 6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view 
 the latest topics since your last visit.
  
 CONS:
 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
 enhancements.
 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
 ()
 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
 more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.
  
 Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
 does not matter to me.
  
 Stu
  
 
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Re: Stus-List Email List or Forum

[Mike Brannon via CnC-List]

List.

Sent from my iPad Mini

 On Mar 13, 2015, at 17:32, Stu via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
 Recently, some of our subscribers have indicated that they would like to have 
 a “Forum” similar to “cruisersforum” or “sailnet” instead of an email list 
 (like this one).
  
 PROS:
 1. Eliminate the costs related to the email list
 2. Follow a thread easier without having to read multiple emails.
 3. Easier to find past, archived messages and threads.
 4. Possible addition of public and private photo albums.
 5. Easily moderated by more than one person.  Threads can be deleted and 
 undesirable subscribers blocked.
 6. No more 20-30 emails a day.  Visit the site at your convenience and view 
 the latest topics since your last visit.
  
 CONS:
 1. Forum software runs from free to around $250 depending on additional 
 enhancements.
 2. Might (???) require additional disk space and bandwidth on hosting site. 
 ()
 3. Installation – I’ve done it before and it does take some time.  And a bit 
 more time involved to get it tweeked to perfection.
  
 Bottom line – would you rather have a FORUM or continue using this list?  It 
 does not matter to me.
  
 Stu
  
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