Re: Qtmoko v52-armhf : Issue to resume
On 02/15/2013 09:48 PM, Adrien Dorsaz wrote: In fact, I was dist-upgrading with cable plugged and I had some error with apt-get (I didn't take time to read the log, because navit isn't very important for me). I don't know if it's wired with these errors. Hi, had the same issue - try rebooting then dist-upgrading again. Benedikt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko] Navit package
Hi all, I'm going on a long trip soon, and wondered in what state the navit package for QtMoko currently is in. I saw on the apps page that you need to install it manually, using apt-get. Is this still the case? How do you install Navit on v52 armhf correctly (GTA 04)? Also, what version (SVN or released) is the package? Thanks, Benedikt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Navit package
On 02/13/2013 10:18 AM, robin wrote: maybe have a look here: Hi, http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/User:Cs Nice skin! and http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community /62878/match=navit Thanks, I guess I'll use something like this then. br robin Thanks, Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: battery
On 12/20/2012 01:08 PM, Christoph Pulster wrote: Mr Pulster, Mr Schaller have either of you looked into this by any chance? Good point, thanks. I stock 1000x original Openmoko batteries (inventory taken over from Openmoko Twaian), which should last for the next five years. Besides this I already have worked out a 100% compatible rebuilt (made in Germany quality, no cheap China cells). So the issue Openmoko batteries is solved from my side. Christoph Hi Christoph, That's nice to hear! Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Discussion: what are your dreams for the Openmoko Community
On 04/28/2012 11:52 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: It has become a little quiet here in the last weeks so that I really fear about the spirit and status of this community. So what are your dreams with respect to open mobile handhelds? What would you like as future hardware? What to see in software distros? Anything else? What missing piece are you waiting for? If we exchange these ideas it may be possible that we all work together (with smaller and bigger contributions - everyone as he/she likes) to fulfill them... Otherwise I guess we have just to consume what Apple, Samsung, MS-Nokia and others are confronting us with in the next years. May it be open or closed as they like. Or is this where we see our future? Or am I completely wrong in my impression? Phew - a lot of questions and so early in the morning :) Nikolaus Hi Nikolaus, Well, in my case I'm waiting to finally get my hands on one :). And then contributing with bug hunting, etc... What I dream of: GTA04 + SHR + Integrated SIP client + WiFi + OpenVPN. So far Android has let me down in this respect, which is directly related to it not being as open as people think... Benedikt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM as car navigation
On 02/26/2012 10:56 AM, Christoph Pulster wrote: Hi, please see Openmoko inside a vehicle as navigation system: https://despora.de/posts/228392 Credits go to Frank Jaeger (fr...@fotodrachen.de) ! Software: Navit with routing data from OpenStreetMap. gpsd shows actual position. Hardware: Freerunner with vehicle holder (19 eur in pulster.eu shop). Have fun, Chris Hi Chris, Yep, with the right software the FR can indeed be used as navigation system with text-to-speech and all. Have done that for a while with your vehicle holder (I bought it long ago). Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: project customers
On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 12:37 +0200, Christoph Pulster wrote: [snip] Not to misunderstand, the game opensource is just starting. if you need to, remember Openmoko as a early hero. Here I completely agree with you, Christoph. I personally don't see the FR as a fail. It's more like a success in that we (the community) have proven an open source phone, while not perfect yet, is indeed possible. And while the FR may not live long enough, an open phone OS like SHR, QTMoko or Debian will run on other devices too, in time. I think we are just at the beginning, not the end. And I am very proud to be part of this, even if I don't (yet) have the time to be more involved :). I don't regret purchasing the FR at all. Christoph Cheers, Benedikt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz is not Fixed
On Sun, 2010-03-14 at 13:07 +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: Hi, after getting my device back (months ago) and putting the first semi-working distro on it (SHR unstable from Feb. 24th this year), sound has improved from pure buzz to semi-intelligible buzz like on an old military short-wave walkie-talkie. It's very hard to use if there are also environmental noises, which there usually are. I verified that the buzz fix hardware is there. I'm using a T-D1 card on a contract in Germany (not reseller or prepaid). What now? Kind regards, --Toni++ You should check your Mic volume. If I have too much volume it will cause a lot of interference. I just lowered it a bit via the GUI and the sound quality is fine. Benedikt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANN] Bass-Rework = Headset Audio Quality Enhancement available in EU
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 12:35 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Dear Freerunner owners in the EU harmonized market, a known problem of the Neo Freerunner design is that the headset output lacks some low frequency signals (bass). Thererfore music played through the headsets does not sound as expected and compared to other digital music players. There is an improvement rework by adding larger coupling capacitors to the output amplifier. This became known as the Bass Rework (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix ). Although there is a description of a rework solution (http://people.openmoko.org/andy/additional-headset-audio-caps.pdf ) we do not expect that you can do it yourself and not in the required quality. Just a note what the problem is: we need 47 uF in 0805 dimensions and they are a little expensive and difficult to get and space is very close. Therefore, we have worked on a professional approach. With the help of a local SMD specialist company in Munich, we can now offer a rework service to those who want to improve audio quality. The price is 49 EUR (incl. German VAT) plus shipment. [snip] Wow! Last night I was hoping the bass-fix would be made available as this is the last problem I have. Thank you! Benedikt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: pisi depenencies
There's already a package in SHR-U for libsyncml/libsyncml2 [1] I requested it for PISI some time ago :) BTW: When I tried it (haven't upgraded since), everything worked just fine (and still does!). Benedikt [1] http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/ kichkasch wrote: Hi Vinzenz, in fact, Syncml support is fully implemented in PISI already; however, I haven't yet managed to get all the required libs into PISI - that's why it's not yet in the release (and commented in the config file). The file you are asking for is in the repos (http://github.com/kichkasch/pisi/blob/master/thirdparty/conduit/SyncmlModule.py) already; however, this again will depend on 'pysyncml', which in turn depends on syncmllib ... On my desktop I have successfully used the module already ... hope, I (or somebody) can create and apply a recipe for SHR from libsyncml (https://libsyncml.opensync.org/) soon ... off we would go then ... As temporary solution for your desktop: 1) Install libsyncml (download sources from link given above) with required deps (something with xml and another one) 2) Extract the attached archive to '/opt/pisi/thirdparty' 3) give me feedback ;) ... good luck! Michael On 01/14/2010 05:10 PM, Vinzenz Hersche wrote: hello all, i just want to know if there's a package for python/syncml on desktop-pc's.. it's because of pisi: skams...@skamster:~$ pisigui Xlib: extension RANDR missing on display :0.0. Configuring Starting synchronization My configuration is: Mode is 0 - calendar In case of conflicts I use the following strategy: Skip Reading configfile: /home/skamster/.pisi/conf ics-module using file /home/skamster/cal.ics Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/pisigui, line 296, in startSync source = pisi.importModules(configfolder, config, modulesToLoad, modulesNamesCombined, False) File /opt/pisi/pisi.py, line 81, in importModules exec from modules import + modulename + as module+i.__str__() File string, line 1, in module File /opt/pisi/modules/calendar_syncml.py, line 34, in module import thirdparty.conduit.SyncmlModule as SyncmlModule i found nowhere something about this importet module. but if my idea is right (that sync on qtmoko works with syncml) it would be great, because then it's possible to sync all calendar- and contact-data betwen pc, web and moko.. :) and i use sidux, but it's most time similiar to ubuntu (if someone know's where the right package is.. ) greets ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/pisi-depenencies-tp4393548p4397526.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
mysql / firebird on freerunner
Hi, hase anybody running a mysql database or a firebird database on the freerunner? Is the freerunner fast enough for a full SQL-Database, or is it only fast ennough for single user databases like SQLLite? (i know that SQLLite is not single user... but it hase no tcp/ip server) My idea was to programm a Messanger/Phonebook/Dialer Programm with a SQL-Backend in free pascal. The reason to use mysql or firebird in stead of SQLLite would be, that i could connect to the database per network and edit the data in a easy way over a frontend on my computer. (without mounting the device in any way, or programm a syncManager) Or would you say don't do the hole wheel again ... wait for the FSO interface for phonebook etc. . So we all will use the same backend. And programm a server/client app for easy editing and storing the sms, addresses etc. on your computer. thanks for comments Beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR getting ethx name instead of usb0 when connected to PC
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 10:35 +0100, Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote: g_ether_host_addr Unfortunately, this does not work for me. This seems to be for the g_ether module, but andy-tracking is using cdc_ether. However, I solved it with this guide [1] (scroll down to the Ubuntu network-manager fix). Cheers, Benedikt [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR getting ethx name instead of usb0 when connected to PC
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 17:05 +0100, Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote: El Monday, 16 de February de 2009 13:37:10 Benedikt Bär va escriure: I'm interested in that too - getting eth2 now instead of usb0 which breaks my NM setup. Are you using a recent QI to boot the FR? Yep, using QI. I think Andy's kernel has the module built-in. Any way to specify to local assignment on the command line manually? Benedikt One of the last changes in QI pass the cdc_ether mac addres to the kernel, if it has g_ether built-in creates the eth#, if g_ether is a module it does not see /proc/cmdline and creates a random mac with local assignment set. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My solution (was: Car Charger?)
Hi all, After talking with Christoph from Pulster we thought I'd share my car holder solution to everyone :) Attached you can find the photos of my car holder. Basically, the whole thing did only cost me 5€ (~3 USD), but I had to modify it slightly for the FR (explanation bellow). I bought it from a local store here in Spain, called El Corte Inglés. Basically, it's a cheap mobile holder which you can get in every store and which is attached to the air duct covers. The problem I had was that the FR has it's buttons and USB port at the bottom and the holder comes designed to hold the mobile at the bottom ;) It has two pieces: One that attaches to the car, and the other which holds the mobile. I just flipped the whole thing over, so it holds the FR at the top. But then with the vibrations it would come off so I just glued the two pieces together. (Photos will explain what I mean :P) [1] [2] [3] [1] http://www.relamp.tk/freerunner/100_0014.jpg [2] http://www.relamp.tk/freerunner/100_0015.jpg [3] http://www.relamp.tk/freerunner/100_0018.jpg -- Benedikt www.relamp.tk This e-mail is digitally signed by a PGP key, to verify it's authenticity. If you received this e-mail without key the e-mail may not be authentic. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster fixes (was: Re: buzz fix)
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 13:27 +0100, steffen.li...@gmx.de wrote: /signed me2 thanks for that service Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:16:05 +0100 Von: Alexandre Ghisoli a...@ghisoli.ch An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Pulster fixes (was: Re: buzz fix) Le mardi 13 janvier 2009 à 09:20 +0200, Christoph Pulster a écrit : Hello, thanks for asking about hardware fixes (I read this list daily). At the moment I'm working out a solution with Openmoko how to handle any repair (buzz SOP, GPS fix etc). In any way I want to offer my customers best service and we try to find a solution which does avoid time-consuming return shipments to Taiwan. Please allow us some days to work that out. Hi Christoph, Thanks for that, and as others said, count me in if the price is right :) Benedikt Christoph www.pulster.eu Openmoko Shop Thanks for your support. I'll look forward from you on this topic. Count me in as one of the customer that plan to have a FR upgraded if price sound nice. best regards -- Alexandre ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My solution (was: Car Charger?)
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 09:34 -0500, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: The problem I had was that the FR has it's buttons and USB port at the bottom and the holder comes designed to hold the mobile at the bottom ;) It has two pieces: One that attaches to the car, and the other which holds the mobile. I just flipped the whole thing over, so it holds the FR at the top. But then with the vibrations it would come off so I just glued the two pieces together. It would be nice to ask X11 to rotate everything 180 degrees. Then the top of the Openmoko would become the bottom. Sounds like a good application of the accelerometer to me. True, this could be a solution, however I like my FR to be in the right orientation. Besides the fix was quite simple and the holder quite cheap :) Benedikt md signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My solution
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 11:43 -0800, Michael Shiloh wrote: For fun you could adjust the accelerometer threshold to be super-sensitive, and then when you drive around corners the display would rotate 90 degrees, giving the virtual illusion* of driving really, really fast! :-) Nice idea! I have to add that to my TODO list (just for fun) :) Benedikt * virtual illusion? You heard it hear first. Yes, that could be a solution. In fact, in the Om2008 repos there is just such a tool, called accel-rotate. However, I find it mildly irritating, since it does not limit rotation to one portrait and one landscape display modes, it can rotate the screen in all 4 directions. In some applications this could actually be a very neat thing, depending on for instance the type of holder you have to clasp your FR. Thusly, if you can only put your FR into a holder upside down due to buttons/cables/whatever, then accell-rotate will allow you to do just that. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 03:06 -0800, lollisoft wrote: Just an idea, I haven't seen quickly which car charger or other charger works without more than yust pluging it into the USB slot. A table stating this would be quite good :-) Using the 12V/220V converter is another option - even a more universal one :-) Another question: Does someone have seen a docking station like item to place the phone when driving with navigation. This could also have a built in car charger :-) Thanks Lothar I just bought a cheap car charger which has a USB slot, and I must say it works very well with the FreeRunner. As a bonus, I can also charge my other Samsung phone with it (with the USB data cable that came with it :)) Then I also bought a cheap (5 €) mobile holder for the car - modified it slightly and now it holds my FR for GPS navigation and I can still plug in the charger, so that the display doesn't dim while navigating ;). Benedikt Olivier Berger wrote: Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net writes: Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR running as a navigation aid? Hi. I suppose that you might find interesting hints (or improve it when you've found what you need) in : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger I myself used this model : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger#sold_as_.22Essentiel_b_.28Boulanger.29.22_Chargeur_allume-cigares.2FUSB but I assume you won't find the same in an australian store :( Regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.12 illume theme
you have to change the Engine in the enlightenment config from SOFTWARE_16 to SOFTWARE. Then the Illume theme should work. ... yes, you maybe need some trys to get there without a segfault :) Ole Kliemann schrieb: If I change /etc/enlightenment/default_profile to use the illume theme instead of ASU, enlightenment segfaults only seconds after displaying the pin dialog. But I don't know if this way changing profiles is even supposed to work. Ole ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.testing (2008.9 upgraded) - Settings not running
By me it was the same problem. But with the update upgarde from yesterday all works fine again. So the problem should be solved. cu Beni btw: for the gta02 feeds i use the unstable-feeds. (armv4 all are testing-feeds) So i have the most up to date kernel. maybe a package in the gta02-feeds solve the problem? John Lee schrieb: Hi BillK, Your version of python-etk is correct so this doesn't seem to be related to upgrade. Can you try exposure.py -f run and paste the results just like in https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2088 ? - John On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 09:36:46PM +0900, William Kenworthy wrote: Unfortunately, this doesnt fix it - Ive added to the bug report. BillK On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 09:27 +0100, Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes wrote: The problem is probably broken python-ekt bindings, the upgrade path from 2008.08 to testing is (was?) broken. See https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2127 for a fix and more explanation. - Gunnar W.Kenworthy wrote: I am using 2008.testing (2008.9 upgraded) and the Settings app wont start - same if I run exposure.py in a terminal, and no debug is printed. A ps aux shows exposure running, but no window appears and the command line returns without printing anything. Is there a way to debug python apps and see where its going wrong? BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.x] Settings app not working
Ivar Mossin schrieb: Installing a clean testing-image and the settings app worked. [...] But my conclusion seems to be that the settings app is working (although not scrolling) using a clean testing image. However, installing a stable image, then upgrading to testing by changing the opkg repository links, the settings application breaks. Even when doing it from a clean stable image. So I guess there is a bug that has to be addressed there to avoid the package conflict or whatever it is causing the breakage. have you done a opkg update opkg upgrade with the working testing image, yet? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.x] Settings app not working
Marek Lindner schrieb: On Tuesday 18 November 2008 01:40:42 Ivar Mossin wrote: November 1st I upgraded from 2008.9 stable to 2008.x testing, using opkg update opkg upgrade. This broke the settings applications which no longer starts. I have just now updated and upgraded again to see if there would be a fix in the repository without any luck. May be the upgrade path is broken ? Did you try to install the latest testing image ? If that does not help we can reopen the bug ... Marek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community same problem here ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] state of enlightment and illume packaging
On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 20:43 +0100, hiciu wrote: Hi, Two problems I've seen: 1) There are no icons for installed applications in illume 2) The battery applet makes Enlightenment go 100% CPU Did you find any workarounds for these problems? Only for first problem. It is because lack of /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu file. You can get it in 'gnome-menus' or 'xdg-utils' and few others packages.. but none of them will works with illume (because of submenus imo). I get mine in Raster's illume image: http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/Illume/Freerunner/2008-10-12/openmoko-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20081012-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz (wget it; tar xzf openmoko-*-20081012-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu). Then you should remove folder ~/.e or run First Run Wizard to tell illume to use this file. I didn't noticed issue with battery applet. Hi, Thanks. Works perfectly. I did not have time to dig deeper into the 100% CPU issue, but for now what I see is that various batget processes get spawned when this happens. Cheers, Benedikt signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] state of enlightment and illume packaging
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 03:53 +0100, hiciu wrote: Hi, I've packaged E for Debian. So far it works. Installation (clean Debian, from http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/files.git;a=blob;f=install.sh): wget https://hiciu.rootnode.net/freerunner/enlightenment-all-in-one_0.16.999.050_armel.deb dpkg -i enlightenment-all-in-one_0.16.999.050_armel.deb mv /root/.xsession /root/.xsession.backup cat END /root/.xsession #!/bin/sh zhone enlightenment_start END echo 'export PATH=$PATH:/opt/e/bin' /etc/profile echo 'export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$PKG_CONFIG_PATH:/opt/e/lib/pkgconfig' /etc/profile /etc/init.d/nodm restart It should be installed now in /opt/e. Alternative, you can use https://hiciu.rootnode.net/freerunner/enlightenment-all-in-one_0.16.999.050_armel.tar.gz. Hi :) I've tried it and so far I like it. Good job. Two problems I've seen: 1) There are no icons for installed applications in illume 2) The battery applet makes Enlightenment go 100% CPU Did you find any workarounds for these problems? Thanks, Benedikt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] No desktop laucher icons after update to testing
Yogiz schrieb: Hi, I used the latest FDOM, added the desting feed and did an opkg upgrade but now all the launchers are missing although the .desktop files still exist in /usr/share/applications. Any idea how to fix it? Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community sounds like the problem in the 2008.9 testing tree. look into the thread with the subject no icons in 2008.testing maybe it helps. http://openmoko.markmail.org/search/?q=no%20icons%202008%20testing#query:no%20icons%202008%20testing+page:1+mid:ylxa4jl3w7sn2ndw+state:results cu beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: no icons in 2008.testing
the icon problem should be solved. try - opkg -force-depends remove illume-config illume-config-asu opkg install illume-theme-asu stop the xserver remove ~/.e start the xserver - with the illume theme there is another problem. it is crashing all the time, until you change the engine. so for the illume package you need to do this: - opkg -force-depends remove illume-config illume-config-asu opkg install illume-config-illume illume-theme-illume stop the xserver remove ~/.e start the xserver go into the configuration page (with the icon in the upper left corner and not with the settings icon on the desktop) select engine select the software engine (not the default selected software_16). close all restart xserver - the background is now in grey and the menue drop down is not really what i want, but i have querty again. and i have working icons. so i could use my phone again. but they still have to go their way until 2008.11 :) b John Lee schrieb: -- the only supported combination is illume-theme-asu + illume if you got stuffs like illume-config, illume-config-asu, please remove them. illume-theme-asu comes with both config and theme files. it does NOT include 'qwerty' button and 'wrench' config. I have also seen the illume default combination works: illume-config-illume + illume-theme-illume + illume notice that config and theme comes in different packages here. it DOES include qwerty and wrench. the way to switch between different sets of config and theme is to set it in /etc/enlightenment/default_profile . this is ugly and will/should be solved in upstream soon. - Xavier Cremaschi schrieb: A recent update to testing showed this bug still occurs in my situation. So I just wanted to share a little update relative to downgrade commands from my previous mail : because opkg accepts more than one package's name as argument, we can speed up the whole thing by making far less calls. Instead of : cat down.txt | while read r; do opkg -force-depends remove $r done which is sequential, you can do : cat down.txt | xargs opkg -force-depends remove Instead of : cat down.txt | while read r; do opkg install $r done you can do : cat down.txt | xargs opkg install Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2008-testing] illume-config-illume + illume-theme-illume + illume
John Lee schrieb: On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 12:29:40PM +1100, Sarton O'Brien wrote: Hey all, Been out of the loop for a few weeks and decided to see if testing was working again. After updating I had the icons issue and used the combination of: illume-config-illume + illume-theme-illume + illume Which seems to be working except that when prompted to enter my pin I get the SEGV error popup. It seems to coincide with the keyboard popping up but that may be coincidence. At one point I saw this on the console: enlightenment: malloc(): memory corruption I don't have the entire message but it's probably unimportant. Everything else seems fine, it's just when prompted for my pin. Any ideas? Sarton seems like #1767 to me. a temporary workaround will be using software engine instead of software_16. you can find this option in configuration (wrench) - engine - John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community works for me. thx. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtExtended] Bluetooth car handsfree in 4.4.2
Hi list, I was wondering if anyone could help me figure out the last missing pieces of a puzzle :) I'm trying to use my bluetooth car handsfree under QT Extended, and so far made good progress. Using the 2.6 kernel from the android download, the rfcomm bug in the bluetooth driver seems to be solved. With this kernel, I am able to pair, and 100% of the features of the car handsfree do work, e. g. an incoming call is registered and I am able to answer, outgoing calls made through booth Qtopia Dialer and the handset work, etc... But the problem is I get no sound - at no end of the call. So I saw from the Qtopia logs that the state file was missing, and I downloaded one from this [1] page, confirmed to work. Now I get static noise in the headset, which I suppose is a good thing (tm) :), but still no sound. In a call, I've tried to change alsamixer, but to no avail. That leads me to suspect that it's not an alsa problem at all. I instead think that Qtopia is not routing the audio properly. So my question is: How does Qtopia handle audio via bluetooth, is it like described in [1]? Do I need some alsa/bluez tweaking (not state files) here? Has anyone tried this yet? I strongly believe this can work and that I am on the right path. It seems it's just something silly I'm missing :( Cheers, - Benedikt [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Bluetooth_Headset_on_Freerunner www.relamp.tk This e-mail is digitally signed by a PGP key, to verify it's authenticity. If you received this e-mail without key the e-mail may not be authentic. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Bluetooth car handsfree in 4.4.2
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 13:42 -0700, Angus Ainslie wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Benedikt Bär [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I get static noise in the headset, which I suppose is a good thing (tm) :), but still no sound. In a call, I've tried to change alsamixer, but to no avail. I haven't tried QtExtended but I'm assuming it's missing the PCM routing logic. Try either [1] or [2] they should route the sound properly. Angus [1] http://handheldshell.com/bluetooth_pcm [2] http://handheldshell.com/BtHeadset.py Hi Angus! After two hours of fiddling with Python (don't ask) it finally works with [2]! Thank you very much!!! So, your guess was right - Qt Extended doesn't yet route the Audio properly. Just a note for everyone wanting to try this: Modify Angus' script, to comment out the passkey connection if you have already paired with QT Extended. This is for Lorn from the QT team - is there any setting in a config file to tell QT extended which alsa device to use for the bluetooth handset? Does it work that way? Cheers, Benedikt -- Angus Ainslie http://www.handheldshell.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:43, Eildert Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: Could you send us your u-boot version? its todays download from the daily build: gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 211K Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. Hey Cédric, Do you still have that version around? Could you send it to us? (please :P) Cheers, Benedikt (And I am updating to latest now) Note that I just tried booting from NOR u-boot and it goes to black screen. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:19 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:08, Benedikt Bär [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. Hey Cédric, Do you still have that version around? Could you send it to us? (please :P) mmm... not sure were it can be... But I now have flashed latest from http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin (it still shows 23 sept. on uboot menu) It worked ok too... could boot at least twice. Hmm, I flashed exact the same uboot file, and I get Nov 4 in the u-boot screen. Maybe you have flashed it to either NAND or NOR and you were booting from the other... In that case, you could use dfu-util to download this uboot version :) Cheers, Benedikt ... but after playing a while, my phone shut off suddenly (I had just selected select network automatically for GSM, searching was running...). And now I cannot boot successfully anymore (sometimes it shuts down quite early during boot, sometimes just after android booting screen). Just like if there was not enough battery... I was running connected to usb (but on windows, not recognized, so probably 100mA max). Though booting into qtextended I can see that battery is about 50% (and trying to boot without SIM gave same result now, shut down soon after android booting screen) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:28 +, Valerio Valerio wrote: 2008/11/4 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:08, Benedikt Bär [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. Hey Cédric, Do you still have that version around? Could you send it to us? (please :P) mmm... not sure were it can be... But I now have flashed latest from http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin (it still shows 23 sept. on uboot menu) It worked ok too... could boot at least twice. ... but after playing a while, my phone shut off suddenly (I had just selected select network automatically for GSM, searching was running...). And now I cannot boot successfully anymore (sometimes it shuts down quite early during boot, sometimes just after android booting screen). Just like if there was not enough battery... I was running connected to usb (but on windows, not recognized, so probably 100mA max). Though booting into qtextended I can see that battery is about 50% (and trying to boot without SIM gave same result now, shut down soon after android booting screen) The problem should be in the uSd card, some guys in the IRC successfully boot android with the default u-boot from may 08, and all only can do that with the usd card inserted. One of them have this partitions on a 4gb card: /dev/sdb1 1 2457832b W95 FAT32 /dev/sdb2 246 124880 3988320 83 Linux Hmm... I do have a 2GB uSD card inserted, which should have about the same layout, only with different sizes... Cheers, Benedikt Thanks to KaZeR. Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: no icons in 2008.testing
W.Kenworthy schrieb:
Flashing the images for 26/27 and 28 showed icons. Unusable for me
though as only the 26th ever registered (rarely, seems to be due to
installing the gsm mux by default - none of the distros I tried that
uses it works for me) and then the illume theme continually segv's which
is a real pain.
BillK
with the gsm0710muxd you need qtopia to know about it.
so in the file /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia there must be something
like this:
identvar=$(date +%s)
ptsvar=$(dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call
--dest=org.pyneo.muxer /org/pyneo/Muxer
org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.AllocChannel string:$identvar | grep string |
awk -F '' '{ print $2 }')
export QTOPIA_PHONE_DEVICE=$ptsvar
# Now start Qtopia
echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on
/usr/bin/app-restarter $QTOPIA_MESSAGE qpe 21 | logger
this is with the angstrom gsm0710muxd, maybe you need some other
--dest params with an other muxd version.
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Re: no icons in 2008.testing
i also have the illume theme installed, because of the keyboard. no icons. but the phone works fine. if i start start an application like qtmail it works. it also recives calls etc. and brings up the right application for all that. just no icons on the desktop, and no entrys in the running application drop down list. i don't wonna reflash the phone if i don't realy have to i am a little bit tyred of installing all the apps again, and again , and again :) but like i said, there was no update with a opk update opkg upgrade for the illume packages. Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes schrieb: His question was not about flashing though - it was about whether running opkg update will get you these fixes. I also thought the testing images corresponded to the latest packages you can get from opkg update with the testing repositories setup as specified here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download#The_bleeding_edge:_Om_.22base_.2F_empty.22_images - Gunnar W.Kenworthy wrote: Flashing the images for 26/27 and 28 showed icons. Unusable for me though as only the 26th ever registered (rarely, seems to be due to installing the gsm mux by default - none of the distros I tried that uses it works for me) and then the illume theme continually segv's which is a real pain. BillK On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 14:51 +0100, Benedikt Schindler wrote: hi, this ticket (http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2082) said that the no icons bug is fixed since 4 days. But there isn't an update in the unstable or testing tree. (they are still svnr36882. ) How long does it need to get into unstable / testing ? Because the updates in the kernel-git (stable) showing up in the unstable-feeds 1 day after the patch is send to the git. So should i say something if these changes are not showing up after 4 days in the unstbale tree or is normal and should i be quiet and wait for it ? :) cu Beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opreferences rules (was Re: Some debian questions)
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 01:06 +0100, Luca Capello wrote: Hi there! Please continue this discussion on the smartphones-standards mailing list [1], I think it belongs there and I set R-T and M-F-T accordingly. On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:21:01 +0100, Guillaume Chereau wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 10:29 +0800, Guillaume Chereau wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:51 +0100, Benedikt Bär wrote: I am currently setting up a debian system on my FreeRunner, but I have some questions. :) The Debian FSO Team [2] mainly uses the smartphones-* mailing lists [1] for discussions, please direct your questions there whenever you develop on Debian and/or for Debian. Yes, but the first part of my message was more about the framework than Debian. We're not looking for a Debian specific way of adding rules, but a general one, which Debian could use. But agreed, the second point probably belongs to the other list, but that is not my priority right now. Not going to reboot the FR every day :) 1) I'm writing some python programs to interact with the FSO framework. I have seen there's now support for a rules file, which seems quite a nice idea. Now, I would like to be able to modify these rules via my program. That way, for example, I could set a screen blanking / suspend timeout but my program wouldn't have to listen to events. It would automatically be done by the framework. Is this possible? If not, any plans to implement something like a D-BUS interface for modifying rules? You can already add new rules using the dbus call : org.freesmartphone.Events.AddRule(s) Is there any already-coded program that do that? Something like update-frameworkd-rules, for the end-user. That would be interesting to do as an addition to the framework functions. The program could be a python script accessing the framework over D-BUS for adding/deleting/activating rules. the string should be in the same format than the rules in the rules file. Is there a way to know which rules are available? IMHO the above update-frameworkd-rules should have a --show/--list option for that (this reminds me of `git config` [3]...). +1, but maybe this is already implemented in the framework. I haven't had time to test the rules interface yet, but I will do as soon as I can. For the way to modify rules, it is planned. Rules can have name (using 'name' attribute in the rules file.) I will take some time today to add a RemoveRule, so that you can add and remove rules. Ok I added the RemoveRule method to oeventsd, you can check oevents.py in the framework tests directory to see how to add and remove rules. BUT, it makes me realize a problem : the rules manager only activates the rules that are specified in the rules preference file (e.g [0]) So if you add a new rule with a name, the rule won't be activated unless you also specify that the rule is activated in the preference file. that is not very good and we need to solve this problem. The whole story above led me thinking about how Debian should manage these rules. The main problem here is that Debian must ship a working setup, which at the same time should be configurable through Debian packages, as I explained at [4]. The above program you've mentioned would come in handy there. :) Cheers, Benedikt What's upstream plan? Having one unique rules file or splitting the configuration into single and more specific ones? Something like sounds.yaml (ring- and message-tones plus volumes), etc.? Thx, bye, Gismo / Luca [0] : http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=etc/freesmartphone/opreferences/conf/rules/default.yaml;h=e0066eff76973b5597d879bf81b0e0f490660bdb;hb=HEAD [1] http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Infrastructure#Mailing_Lists [2] http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianFSO [3] http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-config.html [4] http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-userland/2008-October/000327.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What files do I install to get audio. in 2008.testing
William Kenworthy schrieb: ahh, should have realised that. 2008.testing Ive gone back to 2008.9 now as testing has so many bugs in illume that its not usable - will try again in a few days so it would still be nice to know whats needed to turn these minimal images into something usable. BillK the phone should work with the 2008.9 image in it's basics (call / sms). For me also Suspend/Resume works fine. (I use the kernel from the unstable tree) So you just have to install special apps you wonna have (treminal / mediaplayer / GPRS). But if you don't have audio, then try to update the uboot. Maybe it helps, i had audio problems with different boot loader. Also there is a problem with audio and suspend and resume. If you have a programm installed that uses pulseaudio as audio subsystem, then your sound is killed after a resume. cu Beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: What files do I install to get audio. in 2008.testing
William Kenworthy schrieb: On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 08:36 +0100, Benedikt Schindler wrote: [...] Audio is fine with 2008.9 as you say - however if you look above its 2008 testing I am having problems - a rather different beast :( BillK that's true. On the testing tree, i still have a blank desktop. no icons there to start a application. but i will update my freerunner this afternoon, maybe there are some icons back afterwards.:) But i don't have audio problems with the testing tree. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some debian questions
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 11:21 +0800, Guillaume Chereau wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 10:29 +0800, Guillaume Chereau wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:51 +0100, Benedikt Bär wrote: Hi all, I am currently setting up a debian system on my FreeRunner, but I have some questions. :) 1) I'm writing some python programs to interact with the FSO framework. I have seen there's now support for a rules file, which seems quite a nice idea. Now, I would like to be able to modify these rules via my program. That way, for example, I could set a screen blanking / suspend timeout but my program wouldn't have to listen to events. It would automatically be done by the framework. Is this possible? If not, any plans to implement something like a D-BUS interface for modifying rules? You can already add new rules using the dbus call : org.freesmartphone.Events.AddRule(s) the string should be in the same format than the rules in the rules file. For the way to modify rules, it is planned. Rules can have name (using 'name' attribute in the rules file.) I will take some time today to add a RemoveRule, so that you can add and remove rules. Ok I added the RemoveRule method to oeventsd, you can check oevents.py in the framework tests directory to see how to add and remove rules. Wow... That was quick! :) I'll check this out tonight! Thanks a lot. BUT, it makes me realize a problem : the rules manager only activates the rules that are specified in the rules preference file (e.g [0]) So if you add a new rule with a name, the rule won't be activated unless you also specify that the rule is activated in the preference file. that is not very good and we need to solve this problem. Hmm... Indeed a problem. Maybe there could be a function to activate/deactivate the given rule, and have it parsed if activated. Is the rules manager that flexible yet? Maybe you can point me in the right direction there and I could come up with a patch for that :) Let me know your thoughts. Cheers, Benedikt cheers, Guillaume [0] : http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=etc/freesmartphone/opreferences/conf/rules/default.yaml;h=e0066eff76973b5597d879bf81b0e0f490660bdb;hb=HEAD signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
no icons in 2008.testing
hi, this ticket (http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2082) said that the no icons bug is fixed since 4 days. But there isn't an update in the unstable or testing tree. (they are still svnr36882. ) How long does it need to get into unstable / testing ? Because the updates in the kernel-git (stable) showing up in the unstable-feeds 1 day after the patch is send to the git. So should i say something if these changes are not showing up after 4 days in the unstbale tree or is normal and should i be quiet and wait for it ? :) cu Beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Some debian questions
Hi all, I am currently setting up a debian system on my FreeRunner, but I have some questions. :) 1) I'm writing some python programs to interact with the FSO framework. I have seen there's now support for a rules file, which seems quite a nice idea. Now, I would like to be able to modify these rules via my program. That way, for example, I could set a screen blanking / suspend timeout but my program wouldn't have to listen to events. It would automatically be done by the framework. Is this possible? If not, any plans to implement something like a D-BUS interface for modifying rules? 2) I now have nice text scrolling by on boot, which is fine. However, I'd like to have a splash screen for my non-tech friends :). I've already installed splashy, however, it fails to use /dev/fb0. However, the file seems to be there and according to dmesg a FB driver is loaded. I've also modified my u-boot environment to add splash and vga=317 to the kernel command line, however it still doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? Are there special parameters or so to activate this? I see this with both mwester's last kernel and the OM2008.9 latest kernel (which seems to have a splash?). Thanks to all, - Benedikt www.relamp.tk This e-mail is digitally signed by a PGP key, to verify it's authenticity. If you received this e-mail without key the e-mail may not be authentic. The information contained in this transmission may contain privileged and confidential information. It is intended only for the use of the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. To reply to our e-mail administrator directly, please send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008.8 - testing] - no desktop icons any more.
thanks for the tip. but it's not the problem that they are not configured any more. All the desktop files are there. But they don't show up on the screen. I crashed the hole enlightment once. and enlightment gaves me a standard config. so i had a normal standard desktop on the freerunner. (was funny, but the keyboard just didn't work right anymore) and there the icons where all in the menue at the places where they belong. @Daniel: It didn't work by me. ... but it's not the high priority task. to see my applications again is more important. i thought of the groups like that: - unstable : just compiling every day the latest git trees. (no mater what's happening in there) testing : managed tree. where a human person puts in things that he tested as functional version. (to see if it is realy functional) stable : really tested tree. - but there seems to be no person who is responsible for the testing tree. Because that person would have taken back the changes that really kills that tree. or would have taken down the hole tree @openmoko: how is it possible that there is a tree still online after 6 days that is known for killing the phone? (i mean it's a no boot possible anymore bug and not a sudoku didn't work anymore bug ;) ) ... ... i think i will test the unstable feed now ... maybe there are some issue solved yet ... and maybe there is the new kernel with faster nand read :) i'll give you a hint if it changed something. Beni nickd schrieb: Icons are also kept in /usr/share/applications so mount a jffs image on loopback and copy them across. The only thing I can suggest for the illume problem (clock,battery,signal widgets) is that you run illume config and disable and enable them until it looks right... -Nick Benedikt Schindler wrote: hi, is someone on the testing tree of the 2008.8 distro, and solved the icon problem yet? i upgraded to the latest testing 2008.8 packages. I know that there is a problem with the splash screen at boot up, that isn't solved yet. so i disabled the boot screen (btw: that saves 10 seconds boot time) But now i don't have any desktop icons. also the clock-, battery- and signal-panel is at one place now. i restored the old ~/.e directory but that didn't changed anything. some ideas? thx beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008.8 - testing] - no desktop icons any more.
Benedikt Schindler schrieb: [...] i think i will test the unstable feed now ... maybe there are some issue solved yet ... and maybe there is the new kernel with faster nand read :) i'll give you a hint if it changed something. Beni [...] no change for the icons. but the new kernel is booting much faster. it's a speed up of 30 seconds at the normal boot. and 20 seconds by the Xserver. (but that's maybe because of the not existing icons ;) or my clock is going wrong or i'm still drunk from yesterday :) ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.x] GPRS Instructions on the Wiki
here in germany it isn't so expensiv. you can have 200MB for 10€ or a flat rate for 25€ Rui Miguel Silva Seabra schrieb: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:12:12AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: When I looked at the prices for GPRS service from my provider (around 3¢/kB), I was flabbergasted, and now I wonder: what do people do with GPRS? Do they have better deals from their carrier, or do they use their bandwidth *very* sparingly? If so, what tools do they use? When I looked at prices for GPRS and onwards, I decided I would never ever use such services, and advise everyone against using them. The only reason they cost so much, is so you don't use VOIP for cheaper calls. Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OM2008.8 - testing] - no desktop icons any more.
hi, is someone on the testing tree of the 2008.8 distro, and solved the icon problem yet? i upgraded to the latest testing 2008.8 packages. I know that there is a problem with the splash screen at boot up, that isn't solved yet. so i disabled the boot screen (btw: that saves 10 seconds boot time) But now i don't have any desktop icons. also the clock-, battery- and signal-panel is at one place now. i restored the old ~/.e directory but that didn't changed anything. some ideas? thx beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the basics: improving user experience
Minh Ha Duong schrieb: To Rui and all others interested in bootime improvement: A bootchart is available at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Alessandro i disabled my boot splash screen that saved me 10 seconds of boot time. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the basics: improving user experience
W.Kenworthy schrieb: It often takes several boots before the pin dialog comes up. If you forget while waiting and it does come up but its awhile until you get to it, it will hang so you have to reboot anyway. Sometimes restarting X helps, but not always don't know if you already optimized your /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/*Storage.conf * file. But that helped me a lot with the pin dialog. http://openmoko.markmail.org/search/?q=Storage.conf+pin#query:Storage.conf%20pin+page:1+mid:dzsa4by46vnvfa2r+state:results i didn't disable the hole media card like it is in the thread. i just disabled Applications and Removable ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the basics: improving user experience
Christ van Willegen schrieb: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:47 AM, John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We assembled a team to focus on improving the user experience. Here is our todo list at the moment: So, tell us what you want, then the coding monkeys will start working! Speed, speed, speed... [...] Suspend is quite good at the moment, but when the display is 'blanked' and the system is not in suspend, maybe pressing the 'power' button could up the screen instead. Now it wakes up and immediately suspends. what distro did you use? my suspend / resum still kills my sound. (Pulsaudio) and that means it isn't realy a phone. it's more an extention pack for my laptop :) i am using Om2008.8 stable. see this ticket for more details: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1599 @John: my priority list would be: -- stable suspend / resume upgrade to kernel 2.6.26 / 2.6.27 faster boot. - but maybe it is better first to go to a new kernel in the hope that some suspend resume problems just go away by magic ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Weekly Engineering News 41/2008: back to the basics
i meet you there :) let's hope this event is as soon as posible ;) . Vasco Névoa schrieb: I couldn't be happier!!! OM is listening indeed. :D I know a few people will probably be disappointed because the eye-candy won't get much attention for the next few months, but I know that as soon as everybody start reaping the benefits of the Neo as a lean-and-mean-robust-machine then our love for the OM project and the faith on OM products will grow exponentially, not only inside the community, but also outside. We will finally be able to show the public what this project is about, without suffering inappropriate comments such as what, you can't pick up a call on your new phone??... ;) People often fail to see the beauty when in presence of a small spec of dirt. The day I see my Neo booting in 5 seconds or less with a rock-solid audio and networking stack (including wifi) and no standby/resume problems... Woohooo, I'll fly from Portugal to Taipei myself and pay a round of beers to the OM people!!! :D :D Citando Risto H. Kurppa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! Just want to make sure everyone knows that the weekly engineering news has been released again, see http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1336450|a1336450 I want to highlight this: We decided to focus our engineering on just the basics, even less eye candy: Robust kernel, fast boot time, basic telephony with great audio quality, powerful configuration from the command line, hardware quality. That's it. We will stop working on our Installer, Locations, Diversity and Settings applications. We will get back to all this when the rest is rock solid, but now is not the time. Feel free to pickup any of these projects in the meantime I suppose this is generally a good thing to let the community do what it can do (as long as community has the tools and so on to do it) and Openmoko focus on the core stuff. Comments? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2008] stable vs testing vs unstable
i think there is a problem with the build server, or a patch that went into unstable killed the compiler. There doesn't even exist the Packages.gz files ... and i am sure they exists a few days ago. so unstable ist just as it says ... unstable it is also unstable in the fact of it's existens ;) btw: i couldn't install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0.02_om-gta02.opk there is a md5 checksum error. Sarton O'Brien schrieb: Hmmm ... I just noticed that stable (Om200.8) has surpassed testing in versioning. I now backup all my opk files per repo for easy switching but shouldn't testing at least be equal to or greater than stable? And what's the deal with unstable ... it doen't even look like a repo? For anyone else out there who is on testing and can't read their messages ... switch to stable and it will update :) Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.x] GPRS Instructions on the Wiki
Arigead schrieb: [...] From a clean flash of a 2008 Daily from last week: Om2008.8-gta02-20080903.uImage.bin Om2008.8-gta02-20081007.rootfs.jffs2 And executing the commands echo nameserver 208.67.222.222 /etc/resolv.conf echo nameserver 208.67.220.220 /etc/resolv.conf echo arch base 50 /etc/opkg/angstrom-feed.conf echo src/gz base http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv opkg update opkg install gpsd opkg install gsm0710muxd [...] try not to add the hole repositorie. just make a opkg install http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/gsm0710muxd_0.9.1+r0-gitr3ff86b129640b647ccba3d86eb243d864671b039-r0_armv4t.ipk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.8 - testing] - No soundcards found... (maybe problem with qi ?)
Benedikt Schindler schrieb: Device: GTA02 Distro: om2008.8 version: unstable Last update/upgrade: today does someone know this problem: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg upgrade Configuring alsa-state System startup links for /etc/init.d/alsa-state already exist. /usr/sbin/alsactl: load_state:1327: No soundcards found... postinst script returned status 237 Collected errors: * ERROR: alsa-state.postinst returned 237 hi, i am very busy at the moment so i hadn't had time to investigate this problem. But yesterday i had two hours left, so i found a few things out. I have a solution now ... maybe it's a problem with qi (also if i don't know, how the bootloader could have something to do with it) or maybe it's somethoing else i don't realy know. so i just describe all my steps and you could make your own opinion. I installed qi a few weeks ago. Everything was OK. i run the freerunner into a total empty battery state. (so there was no regular shutdown) i didn't had have a sound card anymore. dmesg: --- ASoC version 0.13.1 Only GTA01 hardware supported by ASoc driver i thought it is a problem with the updates in the unstable/testing tree. there where no other reports and no one could help me. Because it is very unnormal for a bug to show up just by me, i thought where is the differnce between my freerunner and most of the other freerunners out there. And then i remebered that i had installed qi. So i flashed U-Boot back to the freerunner. And now the soundcard was back again. dmesg: -- ASoC version 0.13.1 wm8753: WM8753 Audio Codec 0.16 asoc: WM8753 HiFi - s3c24xx-i2s mapping ok asoc: WM8753 Voice - Bluetooth mapping ok Only GTA01 hardware supported by ASoc driver -- so i thought that couldn't be and installed qi back. everything was fine again, and sound card still worked. i crashed the freerunner (sorry, i don't know how) soundcard was gone again. i reflashed the newest u-boot and there the soundcard was back again. so i now stay by the u-boot image ;) - so i don't know how this could be. But maybe the U-Boot is reseting the soundcard in some way, and qi didn't do that. don't know, but i have a running freerunner again. ;) c u all Beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.8 - testing] - alsa: No soundcards found...
i updated now, to the testing version of Om2008.8. there is still this message in dmesg: Only GTA01 hardware supported by ASoc driver i know that my sound worked a few weeks ago. And yes i have installed a gta02 kernel. So i think there is a bug in the gta02 kernel buildhost, or my opkg upgrade didn't update the runnnig kernel image? how could i check, if my system is realy booting the right kernel? Benedikt Schindler schrieb: i now found in dmesg this: ASoC version 0.13.1 wm8753: WM8753 Audio Codec 0.16 Only GTA01 hardware supported by ASoc driver but if i do a lsmod he sayed i have installed: snd_soc_neo1973_gta02_wm8753 i also have installed a gta02 kernel. so does annyone have suggestions what module is in the wrong version? and where do i get the right one? Benedikt Schindler schrieb: Device: GTA02 Distro: om2008.8 version: unstable Last update/upgrade: today does someone know this problem: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg upgrade Configuring alsa-state System startup links for /etc/init.d/alsa-state already exist. /usr/sbin/alsactl: load_state:1327: No soundcards found... postinst script returned status 237 Collected errors: * ERROR: alsa-state.postinst returned 237 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.8 - unstable] - the upgrade process executed with error: No soundcards found...
Device: GTA02 Distro: om2008.8 version: unstable Last update/upgrade: today does someone know this problem: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg upgrade Configuring alsa-state System startup links for /etc/init.d/alsa-state already exist. /usr/sbin/alsactl: load_state:1327: No soundcards found... postinst script returned status 237 Collected errors: * ERROR: alsa-state.postinst returned 237 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing Om2008.8 rootfs under Windows is *LONG*
Laptop / winXP SP2 i just need 10 minutes and i think this is normal for 60MB via usb 1.0 yves mahe schrieb: Nishit Dave wrote: I'm using Windows XP with 512 MB RAM on my laptop. rootfs flashing takes between 1-2 hours IIRC. I'm using Windows XP with 1280 MB RAM on my laptop (Centrino 1.7 GHz). rootfs flashing takes 1h15 . ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS working / gsm0710mux (was: (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner)
ok. i found out, that a upgrade from gsm0710mux is the problem. they now have a different service name for the muxer. it isn't org.pyneo.muxer anymore it's now org.mobile.mux. you could edit /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia so it uses the new term, (and also the /usr/bin/gprson script) or add an additional service file to /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.pyneo.muxer.service [D-BUS Service] Name=org.pyneo.muxer #Name=org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX Exec=/usr/bin/gsm0710muxd User=root --- But now i have the problem that i get this errors in my log: Aug 16 22:26:45 om-gta02 user.notice root: Waiting for pid: 1545 Aug 16 22:26:47 om-gta02 user.notice root: ficgta01hardware plugin Aug 16 22:26:48 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem : opening serial device /dev/ttySAC0 at 115200 Aug 16 22:26:48 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem : Device: /dev/ttySAC0 is a tty device: True Aug 16 22:26:48 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem : NONBLOCK successfully reset Aug 16 22:26:48 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem : Opened /dev/ttySAC0 Aug 16 22:26:48 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem : querying multiplexer plugin ficgta01multiplex Aug 16 22:26:48 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : T : ^Z Aug 16 22:26:58 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Aug 16 22:26:58 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : T : ^Z [last two lines repeat until a exit of the programm] I think the T should be an AT. so i try some different gsm0710mux today. maybe i found something that works. cu later [btw: answers from could have some delay, because i am on vacation and i don't have often internet without my gprs working on the freerunner.] arne anka schrieb: On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:56:11 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: according to google there seem to be a few messages with a similar problem -- dbus.freedesktop.org mentions that dbus includes security policies but nothing more. security by obscurity, i guess ... anyway, there was one report from ubuntu stating that restarting dbus fixed the issue, but probably because he did some upgrading. else look into /etc/debus-1/ and check the files there, it seems like there are policy definitions. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS working / gsm0710mux (works now for me)
Hi, some corrections on my own mail. first off all it works now for me. second, it's not an update that causes the problem it is not to update... :) the whole howto on freeyourphone.de is written for the Om2007.2/ASU-buildhost version. 2008/8/12 xaos x [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I actually finally got it working by using the article from freeyourphone that uses the multiplexing package. http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21t=295start=0st=0sk=tsd=asid=dda5c6cbf5850182c786488123f056ce It will receive calls and make calls while connected to GPRS using this setup. -Tom it is not for an Om2008.8. the only reason why it worked for some people was, that they used the buildhost feeds again. (What is absolutly the wrong thing to do ! - But i did it too in the first time) So for them it all works fine. Now i have the correct feeds, and the howto doesn't work anymore. That is because of a different version of the gsm0710muxd application. The howto works fine also with Om2008.8. You just have to install these package before you use the howto from freeyourphone: opkg -force-depends install http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/gsm0710muxd_0.9.1+gitr1+3ff86b129640b647ccba3d86eb243d864671b039-r0_armv4t.ipk Attention: just use this package, and no other packages from this host! This host is normaly not compatible with the Om2008.8 !!! have a nice time with gprs until the offical gprs is comming up soon. cu all Beni P.S.: the mokoservice.py doesn't work for me. i use gprson gprsqison to get into it. sometimes it doesn't work on the first time, and i have to try it a litle bit later again. Benedikt Schindler schrieb: ok. i found out, that a upgrade from gsm0710mux is the problem. they now have a different service name for the muxer. it isn't org.pyneo.muxer anymore it's now org.mobile.mux. you could edit /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia so it uses the new term, (and also the /usr/bin/gprson script) or add an additional service file to /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.pyneo.muxer.service [D-BUS Service] Name=org.pyneo.muxer #Name=org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX Exec=/usr/bin/gsm0710muxd User=root --- But now i have the problem that i get this errors in my log: Aug 16 22:26:45 om-gta02 user.notice root: Waiting for pid: 1545 Aug 16 22:26:47 om-gta02 user.notice root: ficgta01hardware plugin Aug 16 22:26:48 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem : opening serial device /dev/ttySAC0 at 115200 Aug 16 22:26:48 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem : Device: /dev/ttySAC0 is a tty device: True Aug 16 22:26:48 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem : NONBLOCK successfully reset Aug 16 22:26:48 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem : Opened /dev/ttySAC0 Aug 16 22:26:48 om-gta02 user.notice root: Modem : querying multiplexer plugin ficgta01multiplex Aug 16 22:26:48 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : T : ^Z Aug 16 22:26:58 om-gta02 user.notice root: Mux : *** mux setup timed out *** Aug 16 22:26:58 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : T : ^Z [last two lines repeat until a exit of the programm] I think the T should be an AT. so i try some different gsm0710mux today. maybe i found something that works. cu later [btw: answers from could have some delay, because i am on vacation and i don't have often internet without my gprs working on the freerunner.] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner
if installed Om 2008.8 i didn't have any problems with the howto for gprs. now i have reinstalled it and i get the same error. i also get this lines if i type mdbus -s org.pyneo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# mdbus -s org.pyneo / Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/mdbus, line 391, in module c.listObjects( busname ) File /usr/bin/mdbus, line 186, in listObjects self._listChildren( busname, '/' ) File /usr/bin/mdbus, line 242, in _listChildren data = process_introspection_data( obj.Introspect() ) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 68, in __call__ return self._proxy_method(*args, **keywords) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 140, in __call__ **keywords) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 607, in call_blocking message, timeout) dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface (unset) member Introspect error name (unset) destination :1.20) same result if i try to connect to anny of the other destination listed under mdbus -s Nathan Kinkade schrieb: 2008/8/12 xaos x [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I actually finally got it working by using the article from freeyourphone that uses the multiplexing package. http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21t=295start=0st=0sk=tsd=asid=dda5c6cbf5850182c786488123f056ce It will receive calls and make calls while connected to GPRS using this setup. -Tom Did you have to do anything special to get gsm0710muxd working? I have followed the directions at that page, but now qpe is crashing on startup. When I try to run gprson I get: Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.pyneo.muxer was not provided by any .service files I'm not sure if that means I'm missing a package, or maybe I misread something. Also, the gsm0710muxd package didn't contain an init script, so I had to make one by hand, and perhaps I'm not passing the right arguments. Any tips on what you might have done above and beyond the article would be great. Thanks, Nathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where are the Om2008.8 Updates?
Hans L schrieb: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Cliff Brake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to +1 this. No battery status only the charging lightning bolt (even when its not plugged in). for me there is a battery. if i pluged the device in, there is the lightning bolt. if i unpluged the device there is still the lightning bolt. so i think the unplug event is not comming through to the little lightning bolt application. Not sure if this is related, but I noticed, after leaving Freerunner on for a long time, plugged into USB, with suspend turned off, my dmesg is full of nothing but these battery messages: `time_to_full_now' property [134472.565000] power_supply bat: driver failed to report `current_now' property [134538.52] power_supply bat: driver failed to report `capacity' property etc. you can have this quite fast, if you send the device to suspend and wakes it up again. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU and sound - broken - how to fix it?
Torfinn Ingolfsen schrieb: Hello, I am running ASU (daily builds) on my FR. Sound has been broken for a while now. When I do 'demg | grep snd' I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# dmesg | grep snd [ 35.92] snd: Unknown symbol mutex_lock [ 35.945000] snd_page_alloc: Unknown symbol mutex_lock How do I fix the problem? I did a 'opkg update opkg upgrade' just now, but that didn't improve anything. did you update your ASU with the buildhost ? that will destroy the sound. ... (with Om2008.8 it did). But i just liked the keyboard they installed me. with numbers/default/terminal ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: receiving SMS messages
Bruce Adams schrieb: I've had the impression, on other phones, that the GSM network could successfully deliver a message into the SIM card inside my phone, but if the phone software was too distracted to hear the initial notification from the SIM card about the new message, the phone wouldn't notice the message until another message came along or something else happened (such as rebooting the phone) that caused the phone to look for messages on the SIM. that's just the way it is on my Sony Ericsson p1 and O2. (But there they say it is a problem with O2-Germany. But no one knows why no other handy has this problem ;) ) So i'm used to it, to have a buggy handy. and thisone wouldn't get new Software-Fixes every day. I am seeing forward to replace it with my Om2008.8/Freerunner . ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU 2008.08 image
Olivier Berger schrieb: Is 8/8: First official release of Om 2008.8 [1] in the front page guilty ? : looks like it was announced officially indeed :( NO! This was standing there since a few days! This section is a mixed up event and news section. And someone put it in there as upcomming event! We should split up news and events in two boxes. And news should be something like offical announcements. Anyway, now it should be released right ? i don't think so ! I can see two sets of images in http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080808/ : openmoko-devel-image and openmoko-qtopia-x11-image Is it OK now ? ... which one should be use : my guess is openmoko-qtopia-x11-image as -devel seems more of unstable/testing/beta things... If i understand all the postings of yesterday right, this is the real meaning of the files: openmoko-devel-image : This is the offical Om2007.2 release. install the rootfs. Do a opkg update opkg upgrade. And you are just where everyone in the list is when he saied he is running a OM2007.2 openmoko-qtopia-x11-image : This is not the ASU or the Om2008.8 ! this is a mixture from Om2007.2 and some ASU applications. (And the style the ASU would look like.) So used it to see what ASU would look like. But it will have many bugs the ASU doesn't have or witch are not there anymore. And now i don't know what someone in the list used if he saied he used ASU. For me i always thought this is the ASU. So maybe he used this or the real ASU. How to get the real ASU: i don't know. we have to wait for the announcement. If i understand the other people right, there had never been a correct installation guide in the wiki, about where to get an up to date ASU image. It is just an Om2007.2 updated with qtopia apps. Thanks in advance for any hints. Best regards, @all : please corret me if i get something wrong. i am still waiting for my real ASU ;) Beni 366 posible devicenappings ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Request for Help: SYSTEMS fair 21th-24th October in Munich, Germany
Hi, i couldn't get a money sponsoring from my company. (it's definitly not our market) But i maybe get some jackets with an openmoko design for the people who are standing at the systems. i will create and post a sample design later. 23th and 24th i am definitly there. I'm trying to get there also on the first two days. (i just didn't get my vacation confirmation from my boss yet) cu all Beni Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schrieb: Hi all in Munich, Bavaria, Germany (or anywhere else who wants to visit Munich in October): We can get a small booth (12 sqm somewhere near IBM) at the SYSTEMS fair in the PERSPEKTIVE OPEN SOURCE area. http://www.systems.de/ http://www.systems.de/de/Home/besucher/themen/themenueberblick#20135120 http://www.systems.de/link/de/20155618#20155618 For further planning, I need * people who want to help planning * people who want to staff the booth * ideas what to present * potential sponsors (my company is willing to do some sponsoring but probably not all) Please write me your ideas. Nikolaus Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
no usb-ethernet
I'm a little bit confused. On the devel List I read that the real ASU image has a black Wallpaper. But where can I download it? I downloaded this one http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080807/openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk--20080807-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 but it has the wallpaper of the FSO image and the nice qwerty button at the top left. Which image is this, SHR ? Greets Simarillion i also downloaded thisone today, with the result of not having a usb-ethernet any more. could you connect to your freerunner over usb? without a pre installed terminal i also couldn't do very much to analyse the problem. i think there are still some problems with this package . (ie.: the yesterday rootfs had false opkg-feeds. don't know if they changed this yet) But i also have installed a new kernel. ( http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080806/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin ) Maybe the kernel didn't have the usb-ethernet-device as buildin any more, and the rootfs didn't have the module included yet. (I didn't know if they made this step in the stable-kernel yet.) beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU 2008.08 image
Rod Whitby schrieb: So whilst it might give an idea of what ASU might look like, it will certainly have lots of bugs and features (e.g. the FSO theme) which definitely are not in the image you get when you build from the correct branch. -- Rod we should editing the wiki then. because the wiki definitly saied that this should be the ASU (Om2008.8) Image. Is at this place the Om2008.8 (ASU) tomorrow or not? (OK.. ok, i will wait for the offical announcment) But i have to say that everyone who looked after the ASU by the wiki was directed to this fake-ASU. (or was it just me?) but i would say i wait until tomorrow before i complain something or write something to the wiki hear you all tomorrow ;) Beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to see how full my battery is?
Brian Wilson schrieb: I guess what I am saying is that I'd like to know what the sysfs numbers mean -- why did ASU think the battery was dead when the sysfs said 91? I will try cat /proc/apm tonight but knowing how to interpret it would be good too when i type apm -v i get a realy clear and readable answer. -- charging 91% (1:04:12) btw: it's charging over usb, so don't wonder why it needs 1 hour for 9% ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg - delete package from list
arne anka schrieb: what gives opkg status libefreet0 ? ___ nothing ... did i mentioned that i removed libefreet0 from my device? :) But just now OM is restructuring http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/ so i will wait and see whats upcomnming next. [20 minutes. later] i reconfigured the opkg-feed.confs. run a update/upgrade. ...still doesn't work but now the direct install of the package worked: opkg install http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/libefreet0_0.5.0.043+cvs20080805-r1_armv4t.ipk; [another 5 minutes later] found a last error in my new opkg-feed-confs. now update / upgrade works fine again. (And i have my X11 back :) ) I'm up to date with the new Om2008.8 repository ... and the big Multiverse ;) thx @all ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
opkg - delete package from list
i have a some problem with the libefreet0 package. my opkg have four different packages that he could install. and he want to install the package that he couldn't find on any server. (libefreet0 - 1:0.5.0.043+cvs20080620-r0 -) could i tell him to install one of the other packages? and yes how do i do that? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/opkg/lists# opkg list libefreet0 libefreet0 - 1:0.0.3.042+cvs200807300900-r1 - The Enlightenment freedesktop.org library libefreet0 - 1:0.5.0.043+cvs20080620-r0 - libefreet0 - 1:0.0.3.042+cvs200807270730-r1 - libefreet0 - 1:0.0.3.042+cvs20080725-r1 - and a other funny thing is. If i move all /etc/opkg/*feed.conf to an other place. and then do a opkg update after that a opkg list or opkg list libefreet0 then there is no libefreet0 but a ibefreet0.mimo. if i try opkg install libefreet0 it doesn't have an error 2 for unknown package. it trys again to install ibefreet0 - 1:0.5.0.043+cvs20080620-r0 - . =)%%=.fucking.((/$§%)( . where does opkg get this package from? and how could i delete it from opkg ? or to ask an other way: where does opkg store the downloaded package data? cu beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg - delete package from list
now i know that the list are stored in /var/lib/opkg. But this still doesn't explain where the last three libefreet0-lines in the list are comming from. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/lib/opkg# opkg list libefreet0 libefreet0 - 1:0.0.3.042+cvs200807300900-r1 - The Enlightenment freedesktop.org library libefreet0 - 1:0.5.0.043+cvs20080620-r0 - libefreet0 - 1:0.0.3.042+cvs200807270730-r1 - libefreet0 - 1:0.0.3.042+cvs20080725-r1 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/lib/opkg# grep libefreet0_0 ./* ./ASU-armv4t:Filename: libefreet0_0.0.3.042+cvs200807300900-r1_armv4t.ipk ./daily-armv4t:Filename: libefreet0_0.0.3.042+cvs200807300900-r1_armv4t.ipk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/lib/opkg# Benedikt Schindler schrieb: i have a some problem with the libefreet0 package. my opkg have four different packages that he could install. and he want to install the package that he couldn't find on any server. (libefreet0 - 1:0.5.0.043+cvs20080620-r0 -) could i tell him to install one of the other packages? and yes how do i do that? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/opkg/lists# opkg list libefreet0 libefreet0 - 1:0.0.3.042+cvs200807300900-r1 - The Enlightenment freedesktop.org library libefreet0 - 1:0.5.0.043+cvs20080620-r0 - libefreet0 - 1:0.0.3.042+cvs200807270730-r1 - libefreet0 - 1:0.0.3.042+cvs20080725-r1 - and a other funny thing is. If i move all /etc/opkg/*feed.conf to an other place. and then do a opkg update after that a opkg list or opkg list libefreet0 then there is no libefreet0 but a ibefreet0.mimo. if i try opkg install libefreet0 it doesn't have an error 2 for unknown package. it trys again to install ibefreet0 - 1:0.5.0.043+cvs20080620-r0 - . =)%%=.fucking.((/$§%)( . where does opkg get this package from? and how could i delete it from opkg ? or to ask an other way: where does opkg store the downloaded package data? cu beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Removing SMS Messages from OM
Ken Restivo schrieb: On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 08:45:28PM +0100, David Pottage wrote: They are in: ~/.evolution/memos/local/system/journal.ics I've asked several times where ASU stores its SMS messages, and never got any straight answer. Where does it store them? In .evolution or in a different place? -ken it's different from prgoramm to programm you use. with qtopia messages it's : ~/Applications/qtmail ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?
William Lai schrieb: On Aug 1, 2008, at 3:09 AM, Benedikt Schindler wrote: snipped When i killed that problems, i will do the rootfs. But for now i will work on a ASU installing wiki-site at the weekend. I will give you the link if i managed to write the basic steps i take. It will be a mix up of these two docs (with some explanations around it): You might want to wait on this one. The official release is within a week. Installing will get much easier from then on. Wouldn't want you to spend time documenting this when it will get much easier, very soon. Regards, Will thx for the info. stopped me from doing work that is obsolet after a week. so i will wait for the release and write something about that then ... :p ... things like using GPRS ... but wait... you wrote in an other post, that there will be also a GPRS update in the configuration-tool short after the release of 2008.8 (known as ASU). what means short? 2 weeks, 2 month or don't know? Or is the code already finished and you just won't put it in the stable tree so short before the release? .. while i wait, i write some mails to every OM-employee about things they already know :) ... just for fun i think this will be a great week :) . ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buildhost.openmoko.org issues.
Mike Doody schrieb: 2008/8/1 Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I get 404: This is a problem since I just decided to reflash and start over. Now I can't install anything :-( opkg update Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.gz Also if you go into the directory there aren't realy many packages left. There must have been a patch that blow up the hole system. ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?
Jacob Peterson schrieb: On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Xavier Cremaschi ha scritto: I am currently using Qtopia on Freerunner as my main/daily phone, but could someone tell me if ASU would be usable too ? What will I loose (in usability/functionality) with ASU ? It's working fine. ... just takes your time to get it installed right :) the maintained rootfs wasn't working out of the box Well, I'm trying to do that but it's not easy... Actually I neither can make my freerunner ring on calls (just vibrate installing the ringprofiles packages). I've made a script for that (that reads the modem output, but it's not exactly what we whould expect from a daily use :P I have been using a FreeRunner with ASU as my main phone for the past couple of weeks and it has been working out well once I managed to find the right combination of kernel and packages. It is really fun to show it off to people and everyone is rather impressed by it. I just managed to install ASU so it works fine for all normal phone stuff. (Call/SMS/Conntacts/GPS/GPRS) I will set up/update a wiki-page for the ASU installation i have done. And maybe i am also able to create a rootfs with my packages. so that the first installation of a working ASU would be easyer for the beginning. But first i have to clean up some things. btw could someone please send me a fresh ASU- /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia ? ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU as daily phone, someone ?
Jacob Peterson schrieb: I just managed to install ASU so it works fine for all normal phone stuff. (Call/SMS/Conntacts/GPS/GPRS) I will set up/update a wiki-page for the ASU installation i have done. If you do find/start a wiki page let me know, I would be interested in helping with that. Just for now, my opkg update opkg upgrade is broken. but i think this is a problem with some packages on the buildhosts. but i am not sure yet. ... damm and it looks all so good this morning tomorow i am not able to realy go on with that task. ... (sometimes i have to work for my money ;) ) but i hope to get on that at the weekend. -- Status: Exposure - still broken Campwifi - now also broken (because of the tryings to get Exposure working) This seems all to be a problem with the python packages. --- When i killed that problems, i will do the rootfs. But for now i will work on a ASU installing wiki-site at the weekend. I will give you the link if i managed to write the basic steps i take. It will be a mix up of these two docs (with some explanations around it): http://openmoko.markmail.org/message/4pj37ioh4wbvs6ac?q=ASU+mike http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21t=295#p2956 http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21t=295#p2956 cu Beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
ppp support not in the kernel?
hi, i am trying to start a internet connection on the Freerunner over GPRS. for the start i looked into this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GSM and i'm aware that this pages are not ASU or Freerunner related. i have managed to get the free GSM line. if i try to start a connection via pppd i got this message: pppd: This system lacks kernel support for PPP. This could be because the PPP kernel module could not be loaded, or because PPP was not included in the kernel configuration. isn't that build in? alle the opkg kernel-module-ppp-* are installed. but there is no kernel-module-ppp ? what could i do? beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ppp support not in the kernel?
Andy Green schrieb: # lsmod | grep ppp ppp_generic32296 0 slhc 13440 1 ppp_generic there is no ppp master module. - -And was my fault. the problem is not a missing module. The problem is i have the wrong version. My installed modules are not compatible with my running kernel. (mixed up neo-modules with a freerunner-kernel ... bad idea ;) ) sorry for that. thx. P.S.: In most times the error is sitting in front of the device P.P.S.: Damm. And just now there is the broken kernel in the daily buildhost. allways the same :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
compiling on the freerunner ( coreutils / git )
hi, i am trying to get a low level compiling enviroment onto the freerunner. my problem is, i don't have access to a cross compiling enviroment in the next 3 weeks. so i have to compile everthing directly on the freerunner. I know, it's a bit slow :) . To make the starting easyer i would like to know, if there is a package for the coreutils and the git somewhere out there. I haven't find anything on the lists or the wiki yet. When i try to compile my coreutils(6.9) on my own, i get a utimens.h:2: error: conflicting types for 'futimens' ///usr/include/sys/stat.h:370: error: previous declaration of 'futimens' was here i already have patched it with the coreutils-glibc2.6.patch In the bug tracker it sayed, that the patch is for all coreutil versions. isn't that right and do i have to go down to coreutils 5.3 ? But before i restart with all this does someone have a precompiled version of the coreutils for me? or even better also a package with git? btw : i am using a ASU image, and opkg list doesn't come up with git or coreutils. thx Beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU updated - qpe not working?
Torfinn Ingolfsen schrieb: But qpe still crashes / fails: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps ax | grep qpe 1346 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/app-restarter The qpe process vanished. This is bad.?This is not meant to happen and is likely a sign of?a bug in Qtopia. Please try to reproduce it and?report the issue to http://docs.openmoko.org.??To be able to use your phone as a phone again you?will have to restart Qtopia.? qpe 1349 ?Sl 0:44 qpe 1548 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep qpe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# Any ideas what I should do now? /usr/bin/app-restarter is a programm that looks after the qpe process one line under it. if this process dies out of reason. (try killall qpe) the app-restarter shows you in the x-screen the message you see in the ps -ax comand. and asks you if you want to restart it. so the message you see in the ps -ax is not an error. it is the parameter the programm app-restarter was given by the start. it's a litle bit confusing. i also needed my time to work this out. it would be less confusing if the programm would get the message out of a file and not from the parameter. But it's ok if you know it. Beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS problems, summary
Russell Sears schrieb: I changed the part that says you can't read from SD when GPS is being turned on. The patch doesn't work that way. Instead, it turns off the SD clock when the SD card isn't being accessed, right? that's right ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reason for GPS problems found!
hi, i think the openmoko team is doing a great job. and everyone was onto it, to have a fast and good solution. so i think the real interesting question now is: Had someone tested Andy's fix-force-sdcard-clk-off-when-idle patch yet? Does it solve the problem? And how many mA does that patch save ;) (I still couldn't test patches. my phone hopefully arrives on 27th) so thanks for the work Joerg, Andy and the hole rest of the OM team. and also thanks to the man who found out that it is a SD-Card problem. (i still must have a fish somewhere, for all the guys who think that this is so bad and that it's impossible that the OM team delivered such a phone) best regards to all Beni ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Secondary Power Suply
Hi, has someone attached a secondary power suply to a OM device ? I am thinking of adding a solar cell to the back of the Freerunner. So that if it lies around on my desk it will get the standby power by the solar cell and not from the battery. did someone tried something like that? And did anyone know what the output V of the battery is? (I haven't my freerunner jet. So i couldn't look into it. Is it 5V like USB?) Or maybe the mA of a stand by / full running Freerunner. I know that we exceeded the 100mA at the boot up with glamo running. (problem for the boot up without battery) But in a stand by situation, we must be under 100mA because we could charge the device with a 100mA usb device.. or am i completely wrong? cu Beni. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which list to write to (was Re: x offset in landscape mode)
I also didn't know about these other list. and i'm not subscribed to it. but i think if all questions that belongs to a real problem with the device are placed to that list, there wouldn't be a reason to listen to this list here. and you could rename this list from community to fancy litle discussions of features that maybe will never exist (a little bit long so :) ) if i had a problem and look over the mailing lists i definitly would ask the community for help. so i think these mails where at the right place here. Q: what would be a community mailing list that doesn't talk about there existing freerunners? A: a list where i have to unsubscribe, because it's just flooding my inbox. btw : i haven't my FR jet, but as soon as i have one, i will be happy to look after the problem with the landscape X-coordinates. but i think it's solved until then. :) cu all Beni P.S.: to aggressiv? sorry for that Michael Kluge schrieb: Further to the recent questions about our mailinglists thread, ISTM that this is more suitable for device-owners than the wider community list. As I see it you have a device in your hand and you want to hear from other users who have devices in their hands = device-owners, a list where owners of openmoko devices can share their experiences. http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/ Hmm. That would apply to all: * no quick fix for my GPS * my SIM does not work * gta02 won't charge threads as well? It is probably the best idea to write to both lists (I was not aware of the other list up to now). Or to merge them? As more freerunners are beeing shipped the difference in #people subscribed to both lists should become rather small. I hope you're not offended by this suggestion, and I hope you get helpful replies. No. I already did :) Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: delay in recieving mails
my posts need a few hours too. i'm on the list for 1 month now. arne anka schrieb: i get every mail more or less 2h after it is sent (polling the account ist set to 15min), though the archive (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-June/date.html) displays them much earlier. is this intended? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Cleared to start Mass production
lol @steve : thx for the good news André Gaul schrieb: steffen wrote: The latest update I have from the factory indicates that mass Production (that means running the SMT line without stopping to check stuff every two seconds) has been CLEARED TO START. hmm...so where is GNU/Hurd? ... :D As far as I know GNU/Hurd will be released as a bundle together with Duke Nukem Forever. ;) @steve: awesome news! adios amigos, André ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm
hi, i haven't seen a headset that worked for more then one phone-company yet. Oh, except for the bluetooth things.But i also needed always special headsets for just hearing music. So please take 3.5mm. so i can just take every normal speaker, headset, etc. that lies near by me. and with the 3.5mm i could use the phone like every other mp3 player in the world. And every audio system i know has a connector for a walkman input but what was the other thing? I don't think i have ever heared of it until now. but this is maybe because i always bought the false phones here in germany. i have never seen / used a 2.5mm connector in my life. (oh thats not true i have seen one on wikipedia [1] 2 minutes ago. ;) ) greetings beni [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS_connector Joerg Reisenweber schrieb: Hi community! A short poll: on a future GTA0x (2), would you prefer to have A) standard 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your old headphones, (the way like it's for GTA01/02) or B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you have to DIY an adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm headSET standards or adapters?) please hurry to vote, we have to make a decision. Thanks cheers jOERG Openmoko-HW-development ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode
hi, the OM is a linux based phone. so you should be able to transfer data via ssh, samba, nfs, etc. i don't think that you plug it into a windows pc and the explorer says: Hey, there is a mass storage device. But i think you could install a litle samba server. or use the kernel CIFS client/server modules. (but don't ask me how they work. i just used samba yet.) so i think a wifi connection, with a running NFS, samba or ftp server is the easiest way of getting all the data on the SD-Card. But i don't know yet. I just wait for my first GTAxx . cu Beni manoj kumar schrieb: hello Already i have posted to this community regarding this question but i didn get any response. Can the openmoko mobile be used as a mass storage device, or can it be networked with windows??? It would b very helpfull if i am getting any reply( even if there s no way to do so, mail me stating tat.) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm
Sven Klomp schrieb: 2.5mm, since I want to pick up a phone call while listening to music. Sven And that isn't possible with the actual 3.5mm headset on the GTA01 / 02 ??? no further questions. your witness. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm
if i believe wikipedia, then there is also a 5 contact version of the 3.5mm connector. [wiki:] Four and five conductor versions of the 3.5 mm plug are used for certain applications. A four conductor version is becoming a de facto standard output connector for compact camcorders http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camcorder, providing stereo sound plus a video signal. [end wiki] ... i like the idea of a such an inteligent TRS connector. like it is in your N95. Nadav schrieb: 3.5, definitely. And continuing the earlier comment about Nokia - the N95 (and possibly other models) has a very interesting 3.5mm connector that provides much more than just sound. If a 3.5mm headphones are inserted, it plays regular stereo. However it also accepts the more advanced connector of Nokia's provided headphones which also have a small console to control volume, play/stop/forward/backward, etc.. That one has 4 contact points and not 3 like in regular stereo headphones. It even supports video playback - there is a cable that comes in the box and uses the same connector point to output several video types. Sometimes the phone detects the plugged device automatically (I guess if it supports some Nokia standard), and if it doesn't recognize, it provides the user a list of options to choose from (headphones, tv-out cable, music stand). Just a thought... On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I still think that wired headsets are not used by anyone out there. Even if | every vendor adds a cheap wired headset to it's device I barely see anyone | using it. | Today bluetooth headsets are cheap and they are way more practical (and even | have the better microphone placing, compared to the wired clip-micros. | | So I think there should be an 3.5mm to listen to music and use bluetooth for | headsets. | | I'd rather not be forced to use bluetooth with a headset. My experience is that | bluetooth interferes with wifi (same freq. band) and you'll have another battery to | worry about. There is some co-existence stuff in GTA02 and future products that reduces this effect... the two devices warn each other to defer what they had planned because the other device is using the air. Agree about the extra battery issue, but I have to agree with Thomas wired headsets no longer seem to be a fashion accessory in wide use, whereas BT cyborgs are all over the shop like a bad episode of Dr Who. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkg/4/IACgkQOjLpvpq7dMoOvwCfd1LW7aWK/nUlUfjslvSW4SIv 0uIAn1U8NpXr7OvJN2L59hN8HlYKdcGg =vRmY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any Stats on Battery life....
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) schrieb: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Finally I've found something! Einstein from freeyourphone.de got a Freerunner and started a very good report [1] Just to notify: Einstein has updated his post [1] with a battery test done using the mwester suspend-enabled kernel [2] and, if I've understood well (I don't speak German, if someone could help [also translating his reports]...), he got about 12hours of use. He doesn't specify what has done, but I figure a standard daily use... [1] http://tinyurl.com/55tt3h [2] http://moko.mwester.net/ so i try to translate the important things: The test was on a Freerunner used the kernel from mike with the suspend mode. He used the OM Software because the ASU was hangup with the suspend mode. the display turned off completly and was going back on when a call was incomming. (he sayed it wasen't so with the none suspend mode) the phone was running a bit over 12 hours. .. but i think the real interesting things are already translated and posted to this list. so i don't know if it would be realy interresting for you to have a full translation of the reports. But you could ask einstein if he would post it also in english. :) oh wait, i try it : @Einstein :could you plase post your reports also in english ? Bitte, bitte, bitte, bitte ... and so on .. [Platzhalter für alle guten Argumente, warum du das machen solltest. ... Bitte selber ausfüllen ... :) ] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: :-) Re: Alarmclock puzzle
:) Whats about steeling time from other mokos? So, your phones will already ring again after 1 minute and i have just a litle more time to sleep. :) I like the puzzle idea, and also the voice variant. But i still think, i like it most if my girl wakes me up and not my phone ;) Schmidt András schrieb: Alexander Frøyseth wrote: Hello again I just have an idea for an nice addon or software (call it what you want) to the alarmclock Okey, let me tell a little story from real life. Every day when I go to school, I have to wake up, and now I have 2 alarmclocks, but still I manage to oversleep. Soo what I was thinking about was that I have to solve a puzzle to turn the alarmclock off, and not just push a button. One possibility is a 4 bits jigsaw puzzle like this: http://www.bimbambanana.com/index.php?p=Puzzle-alarm-clock-cool-gadgetsside=visProdprod_id=21 another, and perhaps an more easy to make is that the screen shows fours digits that you have to click in right order to turn it off. Perhaps like an antibot test on websites. I am more as an web programmer, so I isent so good to program software. NOTE: You have to have the choice to turn this on and off when you sets the clock Hope that someone think this is a good idea, and tries to program one. Alexander Frøyseth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I would like something that tightens Spacetime a little bit so I can sleep an hour or two longer. Someone to implement it on Openmoko? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
