Gta02 holder.
Hi, During the spring cleaning i found an openmoko holder with a belt clip. [1,2,3] If someone is interested, i am happy to send it to you, if you pay the postage and package costs. ( bitcoin is fine, and SEPA too ) I am living in Delft, the netherlands, (europe) so the closer you are, the cheaper it will be :-) ( and if you live real close you can come and pick it up in person ) Perhaps you can use it for a gta04. Kind regards, Ed [1] http://phranky.kapitein.org/images/IMG_20170406_212024.jpg [2] http://phranky.kapitein.org/images/IMG_20170406_212055.jpg [3] http://phranky.kapitein.org/images/IMG_20170406_212128.jpg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Gta04 on wikipedia
Hi All, Wikipedia [1] has the gta04 marked as cancelled, perhaps someone can bring that page up to date? Kind regards, Ed [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_mobile_phones ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gta04 on wikipedia
On 01/31/2016 01:07 PM, Christ van Willegen wrote: On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Ed Kapitein <e...@kapitein.org> wrote: Wikipedia [1] has the gta04 marked as cancelled, perhaps someone can bring that page up to date? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_mobile_phones Better this way? Christ van Willegen Much better! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 08:31 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I saw on the net a video about the BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu phone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR4baLQmU0s (english 40min) Jono Bacon, former Ubuntu Community Manager, shares a video with a detailed review and demo of the new bq Aquaris E4.5, complete with commentary on the wider scopes and convergence strategy What I'm asking me, and want to ask here: How thy 'paint' the picture from the apps written in HTML5 or QML to the display? Is this as well at the end of the day a X11 server or something else? It moves so smoothly. Thanks matthias Hi Matthias, As far as i can tell, they use mir [1] I did order the ubuntu phone and can't wait to test it out! Kid regards, Ed [1] http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML
SNIP Interesting. Makes me curious why you both spend money on that one instead of e.g. the GTA04A5? Any answer is valid - and no need to be polite… I am just curious to understand how people think and decide such things in March 2015. BR, Nikolaus Hi Nikolaus, A couple of things made me decide to buy the ubuntu phone. -1 The price. for me it is afordable at 170 euro vs +/- 600 euro for a neo900 and slightly less for the GTA04A5 -2 The device is in mass production, compared to the volumes of GTA04 or neo900 -3 Development is done by a huge team, with a long track record in development. -4 Using old components from the GTA02 to build a GTA04 will get me a new phone with and 8 year old screen, 8 year old battery, 8 year old case etc. But i really appreciate what all members from the gta02 community have done in the past and are still doing today! Big thanks from me. Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Retrieving contacts for remote backup in QtMoko.
On 01/22/2015 06:55 PM, Robert 'Bobby' Zenz wrote: Hello everyone. Does somebody know if it is possible to retrieve the contacts of the phone in QtMoko so that they can, f.e., be send via SSH to a remote system for backup? snip Hi Bobby, If your contacts are stored on the phone you could try the script from [1] If they are on the the SIM, you can retrieve them with an AT command like AT+CPBR=1 Kind regards, Ed [1] http://marc.info/?l=openmoko-communitym=127790542718546 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Retrieving contacts for remote backup in QtMoko.
On 01/22/2015 09:11 PM, Robert 'Bobby' Zenz wrote: Hello. Thank you. The contacts are on the SIM card, I already tried talking with it but my tries were a little unsuccessful and resulted in the modem/SIM not answering at all and locking up. My assumption was that that was because I tried to talk with it at the same time as QtMoko and its services. Do you know what the preferred way is to send commands to the SIM in QtMoko? Or should a normal serial/terminal communication program be enough? snip You should stop qpe, so it is not using the modem anymore. ( /etc/init.d//qpe/.sh /stop/ i believe ) Then you can use a normal terminal program to send commands. Minicom should work just fine. If the modem locks up, you can reset it with: echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-gpio.0/reg-fixed-voltage.1/gta02-pm-gsm.0/power_on sleep 5 echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-gpio.0/reg-fixed-voltage.1/gta02-pm-gsm.0/power_on if /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-gpio.0/reg-fixed-voltage.1/gta02-pm-gsm.0/power_on does not exists, try /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on, there was a change of path somewhere in the past. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[ot] Pi-Phone or blackberry-pi ?
Hi All, I took a model A raspberry pi [1] a tft screen [2] and a Arduino gsm shield [3] to create a mobile phone [4] It was a fun experiment to do, and in the end it did gave me a phone i can use. Unfortunately, it became so big and heavy, that it is more something to put on your desk as a clock. [5] Some of the reasons to build a phone myself were: -1 because you can ;-) -2 the pi is made in large quantities and has a big community. -3 up-to-date kernel -4 huge collection of programs in the raspbian repository. I hope it inspires someone to build a better model, smaller and with a better battery life. Kind regards, Ed [1] http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/raspberry_pi_model_a_05.jpg [2] http://www.adafruit.com/products/1601 [3] http://arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoGSMShield [4] http://phranky.kapitein.org/images/100.JPG [5] http://phranky.kapitein.org/images/1600.JPG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] GSM not turning on / registering
On 05/17/14 04:25, Nick wrote: Hi all, I haven't been using my phone much recently, but it's always been reasonably reliable when I have. Today I turned it on, and all day it has just said searching for network. I haven't moved, and I'm in an urban enough place that I don't think it's plausible for a tower to have gone down or something. I'm not sure where to go or what to look for to debug this. I've restarted the phone multiple times without success. Any advice? Thanks, Nick Hi Nick, You could try to put the FR SIM in a known good working phone and see if that one does register. If not, then either the SIM is dead, or no longer registered with the provider. And then you could put the SIM from the working phone in the FR to see if that fixes the problem. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 broken screen / What Nice Projekts to Do Without a Screen or Would Other Screens Work
On 05/10/2014 05:23 PM, Francesco De Vita wrote: If you think this is something you would like to try, please let me know, so i can provide you with the kernel and the rootfs image for you to flash. You need to write some scripts to fit everything to your needs, so i hope you have some scripting skills. Probably I do not have the required skills but it is really interesting! Have you already mention your work in the ML or in the Wiki? I'm sure it deserves to be noted, I was looking for this kind of application from years. Do you think your daemon could be easily integrated in QtMoko or other OS? Best regards Francesco Hi Francesco, I did announce it a few years ago [1] and kept working on it, just for fun. By now the internals have changed, instead of 4 separate programs i have just 2, the daemon and the optional gui. integrating it in QTMoko is possible, there are some instructions on the website [2], although i did not try that with the current version. The Original Poster has no screen anymore, so integrating it with QTMoko would be difficult for him. You could give the old version a try, to see how it works for you, and if you like it i can setup a download link for the latest and greatest version. Kind regards, Ed [1] http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td7443779 [2] http://phranky.kapitein.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 broken screen / What Nice Projekts to Do Without a Screen or Would Other Screens Work
On 05/07/14 14:46, Francesco De Vita wrote: You could use the freerunner as a SMS gateway, you don't need a screen for that. That is something i use, i can send a text message and perform some action (switching lights on or off ) Or have a text message send to my other phone if a long running job is done. Would you like to explain how do you do that? (: Regards Francesco Sure, A while ago i wrote a daemon that handles the GSM modem ( phone calls and text messages ) The gui is separate from the daemon and can be run on a remote computer. ( desktop, laptop, whatever ) The daemon listens on stdin and sends output to stdout, so you can use it without a screen at all. You need to flash the root image and the kernel and after that you can login via ssh trough USB. After you set up your wlan, you can ssh in and read and send text messages etc. If you think this is something you would like to try, please let me know, so i can provide you with the kernel and the rootfs image for you to flash. You need to write some scripts to fit everything to your needs, so i hope you have some scripting skills. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 broken screen / What Nice Projekts to Do Without a Screen or Would Other Screens Work
On 04/18/14 06:36, robin wrote: Hi, unfortunately I the screen of my old GTA02 has stopped working (all white apart from a bit of pixel garbish at the bottom, also directly after booting). Now I know that you can get a replacement for about 80EUR. Even though this is still an option it is a bit expensive regarding the fact that the phone is now 6years old. The phone itself still works as I can ssh into QtMoko. So I have two questions a) did anyone ever manage to connect the phone to some other type of newer screen (eg to build an incar navigation system?) b) if I ever wanted install something new, how would I proceed only with ssh as a visual feedback (if at all): Qtmoko and SHR need the user to calibrate the screen inbetween, so I don't know where they will get stuck during installation. Maybe you can share your ideas on what to do with such a device. Many thanks and happy easter Robin Hi Robin, You could use the freerunner as a SMS gateway, you don't need a screen for that. That is something i use, i can send a text message and perform some action (switching lights on or off ) Or have a text message send to my other phone if a long running job is done. Any idea if the touch screen still works? you might be able to use it as a mp3 player, or alarm clock if it does. Or use it as a gps tracking device. If you like none of the ideas, you could also donate it to the community, perhaps someone can use it as a base for a gta04. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] customizing aux/power button or adding button to home screen
On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 13:31 +, robin wrote: Hi, I would like to be able to access some programs in qtmoko faster, so my question is: Is there either a way to to run an app directly when you press the aux button and if so, how can I distinguish the length of a press (I know that the old android version did start three different processes depending on the length of time you pressed the power button (very short, ~2sec, ~4secs). and if this is all not possible, could someone point me to where I should start reading to be able to change/extend the homescreen, to add any icon with a call of that application I want to run. and even more advanced is there any chance of bind the this process somehow to a single icon: - Application - QX - Select Navit - Click upArrow in Menu - Click Launch many thanks, robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi Robin, The Aux button will generate an interrupt when pressed or released. if you look at /proc/interrupts and find the line starting with 50:, you can see the number increase, every time you press the aux button. You could build a script that reads /proc/interrupts, and start another script to launch you application. There is however no way to distinguish between a normal press and one to launch your app. You can use a simple timing loop to check how long the aux key is held, and only start your application when aux is pressed for more then x seconds. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM frequency bands in the USA
Hi Nick, Thanks for the change in tone, for me it was more then welcome. I have been to the USA with my FR and had no problem whatsoever in connecting to the network, also the gprs worked just fine. I did bought a USA sim card on ebay, just to cut the costs. I traveled California, Nevada, Montanna, Sout Dakota and Colorado on the T-Mobile network. Kind regards, Ed On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 12:07 +, Nick wrote: Hi folks, A change of tone for the list, for now. I'm going to the USA soon, and would ideally like to use my GTA02 there. It is a European 900/1800/1900MHz version (I presume - I bought it 2nd hand - is there an easy way to check?). Can I just use any network in the USA, and it will just register with the 1900MHz band and all just work? [0] implies that would work, but [1] implies it may depend on the area of the USA, and I lack the knowledge to readily figure it out. Any clues? Thanks, Nick 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies#United_States_Carrier_Frequency_Use 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands#Americas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v58 with 2.6.39 kernel and improved power management
Hi Radek, Thanks a lot! i am still on the old 2.6.29 kernel ;-) Will try it out soon. Can you tell a bit more about your GPS problem? Is there no output coming from cat /dev/ttySAC1 ? Does it work with the older kernels? I m not running qtmoko and the gps is runing fine. Kind regards, Ed On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 10:09 +0100, Radek Polak wrote: Hi, QtMoko v58 for Freerunner is now out! You can download here [1] and visit our homepage [2] for more info. Here is list of changes since last Freerunner release: * gta02 kernel upgrade to 2.6.39 * hack to stop vibrating after resume * show end call button after 2s to avoid unwanted press * improved colors in qmplayer encoding * better name of encoded movie in qmplayer * using emdebian for some packages * using glamo-mplayer as package * suspend in locked screen is now after 3s * accelerometers are now in module and disabled by default (see below) 99% of the credit for this release goes to Paul Ferster. He managed to find the suspend/resume problem and finally after years we have stable kernel. Many thanks! As a side effect while playing with the new kernel i have discovered power management bug in lis302dl (accelerometer) driver. The module seems to eat ~6mA in suspend. So by default the module is now not loaded and accelerometers are not working. On the other side, the current in suspend is now between 4..6mA which gives ~200 hours in standby! If you want to use accels you do: echo lis302dl /etc/modules echo joydev /etc/modules As for the other changes. I plan to start using Freerunner as my daily phone now so i had to fix one old problem. When i answered phone call i often accidentaly pressed the Accept call button twice. After first press the button changed to End call and the second press ended the call immediately. This is now fix and there is 2s interval where second press is ignored. Another problem noticed was that sometimes the phone would start vibrating after resume. So there is now hack that stops vibrations after each resume. Another nice thing is that i am now using emdebian and i have rebuild a few packages with useless python dependencies. The result is that tarbal size went from 161MB - 88MB and ubifs 146MB - 102MB. So if you are still using Freerunner i hope it can work for you nicely. Cheers Radek Btw - anyone has working GPS on Freerunner? I cant get fix and it seems it's not SW problem. It would be nice to have it working again... [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/GTA02/ [2] http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [gta02] a few questions
On 11/14/2013 12:17 AM, matteo sanvito wrote: Hi ed, I don't know about your first question, while about the second one, try to change to after ...STAT1) I'm glad to see that there is someone other that still uses gta02 :') Best regards, matte Hi Matteo, Thanks for your reply! Could you explain a bit more why to change for ? Wouldn't changing: if(!readw(host-base + GLAMO_REG_MMC_RB_STAT1) GLAMO_STAT1_MMC_IDLE) to: if(!readw(host-base + GLAMO_REG_MMC_RB_STAT1) GLAMO_STAT1_MMC_IDLE) Change the logic of the program? In the first case the if statement would be true if either readw(host-base + GLAMO_REG_MMC_RB_STAT1) is false, or GLAMO_STAT1_MMC_IDLE is true. in the second case the if statement would be true if eadw(host-base + GLAMO_REG_MMC_RB_STAT1) is false and GLAMO_STAT1_MMC_IDLE is true. I can't tell from the source code what the intention of the program was. Thanks for your time! Kind regards. PS Yes, the GTA02 is still my one and only mobile phone ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[gta02] a few questions
Hi all,
I have a few questions:
-1 When i try to start Radek's buildhost i get:
./start.sh: line 2: 371 Real-time signal 0 qemu-system-arm -M
versatilepb -kernel vmlinuz-2.6.32-trunk-versatile -initrd
initrd.img-2.6.32-trunk-versatile -append root=/dev/sda1 -hda
squeeze.img -redir tcp:2::22 -m 256
So it stops with Real-time signal 0.
It used to work just fine, but after some upgrades of kvm it now seems
unwilling to start.
Has anyone a clue on what is going on?
I can start it with:
strace qemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -kernel
vmlinuz-2.6.32-trunk-versatile -initrd initrd.img-2.6.32-trunk-versatile
-append root=/dev/sda1 -hda squeeze.img -redir tcp:2::22 -m 256
but then it is even slower then usual.
-2 when building a kernel on the buildhost, i get a warning:
drivers/mfd/glamo/glamo-mci.c:445: warning: suggest parentheses around
operand of '!' or change '' to '' or '!' to '~'
Line 445 reads:
/* if we can't do it, reject as busy */
if (!readw(host-base + GLAMO_REG_MMC_RB_STAT1)
GLAMO_STAT1_MMC_IDLE) {
host-mrq = NULL;
cmd-error = -EBUSY;
mmc_request_done(host-mmc, host-mrq);
return -EBUSY;
}
Is this really just cosmetics, or is there a bug in the code?
( i still have data corruption on the SD card every now and then )
this is still the old 2.6.29-rc3-09613-g973a41f-dirty kernel
Kind regards,
Ed
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Re: GTA02 giveaway
Hi Jeff, I would like to have another GTA02, but please feel free to give it to anyone who need it more than i do. Kind regards, Ed On 10/14/2013 08:23 PM, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote: My GTA02 has been sitting around for too long without attention. The battery has discharged completely and I can't get it to boot, even with external power, even from the NOR menu. I don't have spare batteries or the equipment for the other boot tricks, and I had stopped using the Freerunner, so I would like to give it away to anyone who will pay shipping from Germany. They will get: GTA02 TuxBrain case Stylus Original packing USB cable Mains cable Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Newer kernel (3.5?) for GTA02: suggested kernel config?
On 09/11/2013 04:42 PM, Kim Vandry wrote: Hello, SNIP Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel. [0.575000] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) Qi claims to be setting the command line as follows: loglevel=2 console=tty0 console=ttySAC2,115200 init=/sbin/init ro mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(qi),0x0004(depr-ub-env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(depr),0x0004(identity-ext2),0x0f6a(rootfs) rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock6 SNIP Hi Phil, What did you flash to the nand partition? Qtmoko? What version? It might be a UBI fs instead of a jffs2 The kernel is somehow not liking its root filesystem ;-) Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)
On 08/22/13 23:11, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: So what? Those are still phones. Working, functional phones which have much better specs than GTA02. User wants a free phone, user orders a free phone, user gets a free phone. Without the need of owning GTA02 and replacing motherboard by himself - and that's what matters. OpenPhoenux project provides full phone. If there'll be higher demand, it'll provide new cases. Demand is too low right now, so old cases are used. I can't see the point of your argument in this discussion. Did anyone try to use Ubuntu on the gta04 ? It could be a nice show case to have some video's of working gta04's running Ubuntu Edge. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: US Distributors
Last price:$122.74499 :-D On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 11:08 +0200, Patryk Benderz wrote: [cut] I have an older USA model i can sell, i am looking for around 120 USD or 1 BTC. Say what? 1 BTC is worth 120 USD now? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: US Distributors
On 05/20/2013 06:23 PM, Joseph Armbruster wrote: I am new to openmoko and looking to take the first step and buy a COTS open hardware stack. I browsed through this list: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributors * GP2X does not appear to have cell phones (from what I could see) and * SDG Systems products are way out of my price range Are there other recommended US distributors? Thank You, Joseph Armbruster ___ Hi Joseph, I have an older USA model i can sell, i am looking for around 120 USD or 1 BTC. Let me know if you are interested. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: I want to buy an openmoko smartphone.
Hi Alexey, Try one of the dealers listed on: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributors Kind regards, Ed On 05/19/13 07:23, Аlexey wrote: Sell me a gta device, please. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move
Radek, again, thanks for all the hours you put in to it, it is really appreciated ! Kind regards, Ed On 05/16/2013 09:52 AM, Radek Polak wrote: On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 05:32:15 PM Patryk Benderz wrote: well, i just hope Radek earned a lot for selling this domain ;) The story is quite sad for me personally. I have spent thousand hours on the project. I was against registering qtmoko.org, but still people did it and i had no control of it. And everybody started using qtmoko.org instead of sourceforge url so it's first in google result list. Now there is some crap on the site and the qtmoko project looks dead because of it. I really had no single cent from qtmoko.org nor from whole qtmoko project... Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bitcoin Client
Hi all, Doest anyone know of a bitcoin client that will run on our beloved FR? Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards
SNIP the kernel, boot loader etc. If you have ideas how to stimulate demand, please do! Nikolaus Schaller Hi Nikolaus, Thanks for your great and continued work on the GTA0x. Wouldn't it be nice if the GTA04 could be a showcase for the upcoming Ubuntu phone? I think the Ubuntu phone will get a lot of attention, once it come out and being able to show it on the GTA04 would sure get some attention, and thus demand. Just my 0.02 btc. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 act as gps mouse?
On 03/08/2013 08:45 PM, Fox Mulder wrote: Am 06.03.2013 14:21, schrieb Ed Kapitein: SNIP The lack of pairing also means a lack of encryption, you have to judge the impact of that yourself. Thanks for these instructions. But the problem is that i want to pair the freerunner with my tablet where i have no access to a console. So i do need a script or program which could pair with standard bluetooth devices. I could also install debian or qtmoko on the freerunner if they are more suited for this task. So is there any other way of pairing with other devices? :) Ciao, Rainer You might try the instructions from [1] , based on [2], but i haven't tried it myself. Kind regards, Ed [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_on_the_Neo_1973 [2] http://pavelmachek.livejournal.com/39659.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02 act as gps mouse?
On Wed, 2013-03-06 at 13:42 +0100, Fox Mulder wrote:
Am 05.03.2013 18:43, schrieb Fox Mulder:
Am 05.03.2013 15:08, schrieb Neil Jerram:
Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes:
Hi,
is it possible to use my gta02 as a gps mouse for another computer?
I got a cheap tablet without integrated gps and thought it would be
great, if i could use my gta02 as an external gps receiver and pair it
over bluetooth with my tablet. But therefor i need some special program
or script which i have to run on my gta02 that it acts as a standard
bluetooth gps mouse.
So does anybody know a way to do this? :)
Do you mean this? http://www.handheldshell.com/software/bluetooth.php
I was looking exactly for this kind of script. :)
I will try it at the weekend and hopefully i get it working without too
much trouble. Thanks for the link.
I couldn't wait and so i tried it today. I installed latest SHR 2012.7
and revived my GTA02 for this test. :)
But the first problem came up with bluetooth pairing because the
mentioned simple-agent Python script in the wiki relies on some
modules SHR doesn't have. It uses from gi.repository import GObject
which i could solve when renaming it to import gobject (doesn't know
if that works). But than it also uses import bluezutils which i can't
find anywhere in the SHR repositories.
So before i can test the BtGPS script i have to solve the problem of
pairing my devices. The wiki states there are some other scripts for
pairing but i can't find any. So does anybody know a way how to pair my
GTA02 with another device with some script or program for SHR?
Ciao,
Rainer
Hi Rainer,
I use bluetooth without pairing.
I have a laptop and a FR.
On the laptop i do:
rfcomm listen 1 2
And on the FR i do
BLUEMAC=00:02:72:14:0F:ED
rfcomm connect 1 ${BLUEMAC}
And wait a while for /dev/rfcomm1 to come up.
Then i run on the laptop:
/usr/sbin/pppd nodetach /dev/rfcomm1 call bluerunner
where /etc/ppp/peers/bluerunner contains the ip address etc ( man pppd )
You can then start gpsd on the freerunner and use it as a networked gpsd
from the laptop.
I hope this setup will work for you too.
( i wrote a script around the commands, but this is basically how it
works)
The lack of pairing also means a lack of encryption, you have to judge
the impact of that yourself.
Kind regards,
Ed
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Hi All, ( specially the dutch users ;-) ) Today the dutch government has send a test alert message[1], a cell broadcast. This is used to inform people about a major incident in a certain area. Did any of the dutch people receive such a message? Do you have any info/logs/whatever? Kind regards, Ed [1] http://www.nederlandveilig.nl/nl-alert/actueel/18/2013-01-29/maandag-4-februari-eerste-landelijke-controlebericht-nl-alert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Community] OpenPhoenux Logo contest - Phase 2 (voting)
I like proposal 8, but i think the chain should be broken one open link, to free the project from the past. On 01/14/2013 06:09 PM, Adrien Dorsaz wrote: Hello, So I voted for proposal #5 and #6. I wanted to give a precision for the proposal #5 : I'd prefer his variant b with phone colored letters. Thanks, Adrien ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: possible to use wifi and usb networking at the same time? (qtmoko)
On 01/04/2013 04:02 PM, robin wrote: hi I somehow messed up my routing, so I can no longer access the internet/router from my freerunner (ping 192.168.0.200 works 192.168.0.1 (router) doesn't anymore). Now I thought as long as I can log in via ssh from my desktop I could still access the internet from my phone, by powering on wifi. BUT as soon as the wifi connection is up (and actually permits me to access the internet) my usb connection dies... so I was wondering if there is a setup, where you can just ssh into your phone power up wifi (maybe even from command line) and still have fully functional usb access to the phone. best regards and happy new year robin Hi Robin, Can you ssh to the wifi address of the FR? That way it wouldn't matter if the USB connection dies. Can you tell a bit more about your setup? 192.168.0.200 is connected to an usb port on your router? What kind of router is it? a linux box with multiple interfaces? Are you able to open up a terminal on the FR and access the command line? Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: +++ Group Tour finished +++ OpenPhoenux 3704 samples available +++ GTA04A4 Second Choice offer +++ GTA04A5 preorders +++
Hi Nikolaus, Congrats on this *great* achievement! And good to see that the price is coming down on the next batch of GTA04's Enjoy your Christmas holidays, you earned it! Kind regards, Ed On 12/18/2012 09:44 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Please read the full text here: http://lists.openphoenux.org/pipermail/community/2012-December/000176.html And I would like to invite you to subscribe to that list to get such information first hand: http://lists.openphoenux.org/mailman/listinfo/community Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [off-topic] smartphone alternatives?
On 12/17/2012 05:59 PM, francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote: Hi list Sadly to say, my GTA02 is going to retire. It is having too much troubles to be used as a daily phone and I'm thinking to replace it. The perfect candidate is the GTA04 but I can't afford its cost right now. I didn't follow with attention the evolution of the smartphones market, so I'm asking you: what alternatives do I have? Is there something with a recent hardware but somehow open and that costs no more than 200€? I have to say that I'm not a big fan of android and for now I would prefer to go with a 30€ nokia in the pocket and a gnu/linux friendly tablet/netbook on the shoulders waiting for better times... Best regards Joif Hi Joif/Brian, Sad to see you go. I am curious on why the Freerunner did not meet your expectations? Not to try to convince you to reconsider, but because it might be important for future phones (like the gta04) What distro did you try? what are the things that you missed in the FR? What made you finally decided to look for another phone? I hope you are willing to tell us about your experience, i think there are much more people who gave up on the FR and i am wondering why. Kind regards and the best of luck with your quest for a new phone. Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: U-Boot source versions
Hi Gennady, I hope to find some time this Christmas to take a look at the SD card code. It seems that your code at [1] is no longer available. Is there a new place where i can find your code? Any info on what you have discovered so far, hints, tips, tricks? Kind regards. Ed [1] http://www.bsdmn.com/cgit/cgit/u-boot/ On 10/05/2011 02:59 PM, Gennady.Kupava wrote: I guess i am only u-boot user left in community :) I tried to fix few annoying bugs and using own u-boot version, you can find description here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-boot-gena2x It works pretty well here except nasty problem with sd card. Gennady. SNIP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: is my GTA02 getting old?
On 12/10/12 21:48, Boudewijn wrote: On Monday 10 December 2012 00:59:16 francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote: Add to this some strange GSM/modem behaviour: whenever I get low GSM signal for certain time, I have to restart the Neo because I loose the phone functionalities (cannot send/receive calls and messages), My guess would be the battery getting old. One person on the list (Michael from Harhan) found that one part of the GSM chipset needs a higher voltage than the rest of the system. That explains the phone functionality dropping while the rest of the phone works as it should. I can imagine an older battery having troubles supplying enough current at high enough voltage. My point is moot of course if you have just swapped your battery for a new one ;-) Are the batteries with the coulomb counter for the GTA02, still produced, or are they of the same age as the original FR's? If so, they must be near the end of their shelf life, is a compatible battery (with a coulomb counter) available? I have one battery that is very dead an two that are getting old and have to be recharged more often. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pictures of new alu case
Very nice! Could he post a photo of a standard case next to the alu case, just to get an idea on how big it has become? ( front and side pictures would be nice) Hats off to him! Kind regards, Ed On Fri, 2012-12-07 at 11:41 +0100, Radek Polak wrote: Hi, in june i posted pictures of my 3d printed case on my blog. One of the responses was from Vladimir Zima. He offered to model up case milled from ALU and here are first photos of his work: https://picasaweb.google.com/114961040002008630266/GTA04AluCase The surface can be further improved by eloxing [1]. All parts are reported to fit perfectly together and the result should be very durable. As you can see from pictures the phone is basically working. Vladimir plans also to do a video and release his 3d models. Enjoy! Radek [1] http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eloxov%C3%A1n%C3%AD ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: setting up gprs properly
Hi Robin, If you run pppd with the nodetach and debug parameters manually, you will get quiet a bit of information about which authentication protocols are tried. You need to set up a connection file in (default in /etc/ppp/peers) with the details about the connection. And a chat script to handle setting up the connection ( eq /etc/ppp/gprs-connect-chat ) Good luck with your trouble shooting! Kind regards, Ed On 11/30/2012 07:34 AM, robin wrote: I am trying to set up my gprs in both shr and qtmoko. unfortunately I do not get a data connection with neither of them. I am using blau.de and according to their website there are either APN: internet.eplus.de Username: blau Passwort: blau Authentifizierungstyp: PAP so I wonder if the authentication might be a problem, as I have not found a place to set it specifically. then they have a specific access if you want to do tethering (I haven't quite understood how this is different to the first one: APN/ Zugangspunkt: internet.eplus.de -- Datenträger - Datadrive: Paketdaten - Packagedata -- IP-Adresse: dynamisch -- Benutzername: eplus -- Passwort: gprs but still no success. If I set it up with qtmoko I get the little G icon on the homescreen. If I then click on start the icon becomes a filled G for a microsecond, before going back to the unfilled/unconnected state. Any hints, also how I can investigate this? br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available
Hi Thomas, If i read the page right, the price is *between* 10 an 1000 dollar a piece. I hope they sell it to you for 10 USD ! Kind regards, Ed On 10/22/2012 05:29 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: Hi, I found this one : http://honglixin-hk.en.alibaba.com/product/555784898-213451334/LQ070Y3DG3B_SHARP_7_0_SIZE_LCD_TFT_LED_800_480_WLED.html As the price on the page is 10$ (!!), I prefered to send a request for 500 pcs. I'll post the answer a soon as I got it. Regards Thomas - Mail original - | De: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com | À: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org | Envoyé: Lundi 22 Octobre 2012 17:10:18 | Objet: Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available | | Hi, | | | You are unfortunately the second last on the backorder list. So it | will take a little longer. | | | A rough estimate for smallest quantities (e.g. 5 units): | | * a GTA04 (custom) board inside - could become cheaper if no UMTS | GPS capabilities | * a Sharp LQ070Y3DG3B display [1] ~130 EUR (incl. VAT) @ Avnet | Express [2] | * Battery ~30 EUR (incl. VAT) | * PCB + internal components incl. production ~50-100 EUR (incl. VAT) | * Shapeways case ~77 EUR (incl. VAT) | * plus UMTS antenna, GPS antenna (if wanted) ~30 EUR | | If someone knows a cheaper source for a display than [2], please let | us know. | | Provided there is enough interest, we could offer a kit made of | battery and | complete PCB and offer the required GTA04-Custom variant (there are | some | connectors not installed). And everyone could buy a display and a | Shapeways | case whereever he/she likes. | | Would that be interesting to have components DIY? Or would there | be more interest in completely assembled devices? | | Nikolaus | | [1] | http://www.panelook.com/LQ070Y3DG3B_SHARP_7.0_LCM_overview_9649.html | [2] | http://octopart.com/partsearch#search/requestDataq=%20LQ070Y3DG3B | ___ | Openmoko community mailing list | community@lists.openmoko.org | http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community | ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bye SHR, hello QTMoko (and battery life)
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 00:11 +0200, David Garabana Barro wrote: O Xoves, 4 de Outubro de 2012, Timo Juhani Lindfors escribiu: David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com writes: I've read about http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2349, but it should be fixed in qtmoko's 2.6.34, isn't it? Yes. Any clue on this? Can you measure the power consumption please? With and without GSM. After changing u-boot with qi, battery standby time is far better. It seems gennady's u-boot still have some bugs... Thanks you all for the help -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID: da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html Hi David, Could you please post the current_now measurements with the qi bootloader? Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problem with microsd
Hi Davide, Try (re)starting udev (or mdev) and see if you get any info. Kind regards, Ed On 09/27/2012 11:17 AM, Davide Scaini wrote: Hi all. I asked on shr user list with no luck. I'm using shr-core, I have this problem: the device for the microsd is not created, i.e. /dev/mmcblk0p1 does not exist. Do you have any fast fix? This is the problem: root@om-gta02:~# fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 7948 MB, 7948206080 bytes 4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 242560 cylinders, total 15523840 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x36c4 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/mmcblk0p1204812328959 6163456 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p21232896015523839 1597440 82 Linux swap / Solaris root@om-gta02:~# mount -t ext2 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/temp/ mount: special device /dev/mmcblk0p1 does not exist ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] dpkg-reconfigure locale resizes most of the fonts and no gps fix possible anymore(?)
On 08/24/2012 08:09 PM, robin wrote: hi all I wanted to have the new anki 2.0 flash cards on my GTA, but it always complained that it the system was not set to UTF8. In the end I succeeded by running dpkg-reconfigure locale but since then my fonts are very large (not everywhere but on most screens) and this is for all themes. Also since then I cannot get a fix for NeronGPS anymore ;-( even though the finxi home screen tells me that /dev/ttySAC1 has up to 9 satelites and the output seems to show satelites as well. Same behaviour with navit. Any help welcome as I really like the GTA02 for navigating/maps and for flashcard learing. Robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi Robin, I am afraid i can't help you with the fonts, but perhaps with the gps. Is there a gpsd running on the FR? Or if it uses dbus, can you monitor if dbus gets location and satelite updates? If gpsd is running, you could save the nmea data to a file and use gpsbabel to check if you have a fix or not. Kind regards. Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: transcoding video for freerunner 240x320 mode
Hi, could you post the command you used to scale and play the movie? Kind regards, Ed On 07/01/2012 08:59 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz writes: Freerunne has hardware switch for changing resolution to 240x320. But after switching you will get the strange colors. Indeed but after the gamma correction values that I posted the output looks much more reasonable. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: transcoding video for freerunner 240x320 mode
On 07/02/2012 07:20 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org writes: Hi, could you post the command you used to scale and play the movie? http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2012-June/067176.html Thanks, i did read that mail, but looking at the command line, the stream is dumped on stdout right? i was wondering what you did use to play the movie on the screen. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: transcoding video for freerunner 240x320 mode
Many thanks!
Very helpful commands in that script.
Kind regards,
Ed
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Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org writes:
Thanks, i did read that mail, but looking at the command line, the
stream is dumped on stdout right?
Yes. I typically do
mplayer-wrapper (ssh server encode-to-theora http://example.org/foo.mp4)
where mplayer-wrapper is
#!/bin/bash
KILLER_PID=
function cleanup() {
if [ $KILLER_PID != ]; then
kill -SIGKILL $KILLER_PID
fi
sudo om screen glamo-bus-timings 4-4-4
sudo fbset 480x640
sudo om screen resolution normal
sudo chvt 7
exit 0
}
trap cleanup 1 2 3 15
sudo chvt 2
# disable blanking
sudo sh -c printf '\033[9;0]' /dev/tty2
# disable cursor blinking
sudo sh -c printf '\033[?17;0;127c' /dev/tty2
# hide cursor
sudo sh -c printf '\033[?25l' /dev/tty2
sudo om screen resolution qvga-normal
sudo fbset 240x320
sudo om screen glamo-bus-timings 2-4-2
sudo renice -2 -p $$ 2 /dev/null
(dd if=/dev/input/power_button of=/dev/null bs=16 count=1 2 /dev/null;
killall mplayer)
KILLER_PID=$!
mplayer -framedrop -ac -ffvorbis, -ao alsa -vc -fftheora, -vo fbdev
-nocorrect-pts $@
cleanup
You need theora 1.2.0 alpha release for decent performance.
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Re: Ok Tread lightly please. I'm an end User.
On 05/18/2012 02:27 PM, Travis Bachelder wrote: Ok, So I took your advise (Benjamin Deering). Used Neotools, wow: what a powerful tool, thank you very much... But, I think I did something wrong. : / _*This is my problem:*_ My first attempt: I tried flashing the FR (NAND) with QI, Kernel, and the OS (Which was the SHR jffs2 image). Everything was successful, until I tried to turn on the phone when it was done. The phone turns on and random lines of code? accelerates from top to bottom (this was cool at first), until 3 minutes later it stops (with the screen full of code) and doesn't do anything else. Then I tried it another way: Flashing the FR (NAND)with the Kernel and QI, and installing the SHR OS on an ext3 partition of my micro SD card. I used the SHR tar ball for this one. And I got sort of the sam results. Should I not be flashing the kernel to the FR? Is the Kernel already apart of the OS? When I flash the FR NAND, Does this erase everything on NAND and replace it with what I am currently flashing? Has anyone had this problem, Am I the only one..? Thanks, Hi Travis, Perhaps it is a good idea to get more familiar with the FR by flashing qtmoko first. If you follow the steps at [1] closely, it will become more clear what is involved in getting your FR alive. And it will give you a working phone ;-) Kind regards, Ed [1] http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/qtmoko/index.php?title=Installation ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko servers
Whooo Joerg, take a beer! I'm sure people are unaware of this, so it is good to explain it to them. Don't take it personally, your help is really appreciated. Kind regards, Ed On 05/06/2012 06:45 PM, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: openmoko inc. isn't handling anything openmoko.org related, since ages. A detail constantly ignored in all this debate. Please note that all openmoko.org (incl me / my mail addr) is no longer directly associated to openmoko.com and openmoko inc. I'm actually thoroughly fed up with getting bitched at like I was a first level helpdesk drone or CR-representative. I'm not going to answer any more to guys *demanding* things from me and accusing me of whatever weird mindset when I don't feel like jumping when they instruct me jump. I've been in to help, in my spare time, on a voluntary basis. I'll reduce this engagement drastically, since it earns me bitching and reproaches, instead of at least appreciation or the satisfaction to feel I was able to help. /j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: big leap forward: Case-Kit and 3D printed case
On 03/06/2012 04:10 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: we are coming close to the dream of getting unlimited availability of new and compatible cases! Thanks to the great work from Lukas I simply ordered a set of case components at Shapeways and they already arrived today. SNIP Today i stumbled onto this [1] 3D printer. Would that make it easier to prototype or even manufacture casings? Kind regards, Ed [1] http://store.solidoodle.com/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=56 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Suspend issues [ was: QtMoko v44 ..]
On Sunday, April 15, 2012 15:50:00 Radek Polak wrote: On Sunday 15 April 2012 12:33:47 e...@kapitein.org wrote: Somewhat unrelated: I found that suspending by echo mem /sys/power/state sometimes fails and hangs the FR. (on a 2.6.34 Kernel, on a 2.6.29 kernel it works fine ) Do you or anyone else know if there is something else required to susspend the FR? echo mem /sys/power/state should be enough. I think i havent mentioned which kernel are you using? Regards Radek Hi Radek, With a 2.6.29 kernel it works fine. With the 2.6.34 kernel from qtmoko V39 it sometimes hangs ( once every 10 suspends or so ) So i will follow the ticket as pointed out by Lukas. ( upgrading to 2.6.39 seems like a good way forward ) Kind regards. Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
phranky 0.01 released
What is phranky? phranky is a phone/SMS application written from scratch in c. the gui uses Xlib. What can you do with phranky? * Start a phonecall * Receive a phonecall * Send a textmessage * Receive a textmessage What does it look like? check out the video at [1] Why phranky? For most of the features of the GTA02 there is already good software. gpsd for the gps, bluez for bluetooth, pppd for gprs, wpa_supplicant for wifi, and alsa for the soundcard. the only thing missing was a simple phone application to handle phonecalls or text messages. So inspired by the great work of the FSO team and gsmd, i decided to write a simple dialer/sms handler, with just a few commands and signals. i tried to have as little dependencies as possible (no dbus, framework,GTK etc). What is used? Phranky consists of 4 individual programs, one for handling phone calls, one for handling textmessages, one for talking to the modem and one for notifying the user of important events. (incoming phonecall or incoming textmessage) the programs are reading commands from stdin and printing responses on stdout this makes it easy to use a script to read or write a text message or answer/start a phonecall. it needs an X server for the notifications and the menu, without a window manager or with a scaling WM like matchbox. More information and the download page are at http://phranky.kapitein.org Happy /Easter everybody/, Ed [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiYuWv9jK_4 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microSD ext3 file system
On 04/02/2012 08:49 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, April 02, 2012 a las 08:32:51PM +0200, Jiří Pinkava escribió: Hi, after umout is the filesystem broken? I have experience where are writen some pseudorandom data, which overiwrite even forst sector (after restart disk partition are not show, SD card is unformated). Is this you case? Hi, Not exactly. It seems that through writing files to the ext3 file system it gets broken; and after this fdisk -l does not show the partition anymore; btw: when I format this with mkfs.vfat, all is fine; but the space is only 1GB while the partition is around 4GB: root@om-gta02 ~ # fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 3953 MB, 3953131520 bytes 4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 120640 cylinders Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0aecb0ac Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/mmcblk0p1 1 120640 3860472 83 Linux root@om-gta02 ~ # df -kh /dev/mmcblk0p1 FilesystemSize Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/mmcblk0p1 1022.0M394.0M627.9M 39% /media/card Why is this? matthias Hi Matthias, A while ago i read this article on [1]. Perhaps this will help you to solve your problem. ( i have a hard time finding a working uSD card too ) Is your card on the supported card list [2] ? Kind regards, Ed [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/428584/ [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Advance OpenStreetMap surveying with GTA04?
On 03/18/2012 02:25 PM, Mayeul Kauffmann wrote: Le dimanche 18 mars 2012 à 14:34 +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors a écrit : I used another GTA02 to make audio notes and a cheap and small digital camera to take photos. As long as all clocks are synchronized you can combine all the data with your netbook later. Thanks a lot Timo! I already do this with my Garmin and gpscorrelate (GNU/GPL), but without HDOP nor heading. Can you save the HDOP [1] with the GTA02? Do you have access to heading in the command line (with possibility to pipe it)? Thanks! Mayeul [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilution_of_precision_%28GPS%29 Hi Mayeul, If, on a GTA02, you use a nmea log and gpsbabel to translate it to gpx format, you get: trkpt lat=51.987431167 lon=4.337932667 ele-16.80/ele time2012-03-17T14:01:21Z/time course61.23/course speed1.071073/speed fix3d/fix sat8/sat hdop1.58/hdop vdop2.14/vdop pdop2.66/pdop /trkpt Would that give you all the info you need? HDOP and course are present. ( the above is just one sample of a track i walked yesterday, with a GTA02 ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OM as car navigation
Hi Robin, One of the things i do before starting navit is: if test -f ~/.navit/destination.txt; then rm ~/.navit/destination.txt fi if test -f ~/.navit/center.txt; then rm ~/.navit/center.txt fi With that i never have a hanging navit, without it it takes *forever* to start and eat the whole CPU. Kind regards, Ed On 02/26/2012 07:42 PM, robin wrote: One of the problems with navit though is that it very much likes to freeze the freerunner completely (battery removal needed :-( ). the best voices so far I found on navit for android on freerunner. so if anyone has any suggestions for good voices for qtmoko or shr those would be most welcome. robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Information about linux drivers for voice in neofreerunner........
Hi Arslan, A while ago i tried to write a software modem to communicate between 2 freerunners. One of the things that went wrong was a 90 degree phase shift in the audio signal. So when you write audio software, please keep in mind that it might get phase shiffted. Kind regards, Ed On 01/18/2012 06:19 PM, Arslan Abbasi wrote: Simple recording and playback of recorded sounds can be done but, can anyone give me some clue if it has enough processing power to do real time voice processing and transmitting processed voice at the same time. And please, if anybody has any code related to voice manipulations on this phone or in particular real time voice processing while transmitting through gsm, share it. It'll be very nice of you. @Dave... Encrypting gsm is legal in our country, and as far as i think encryption shouldn't be illegal coz voice/data is your private property so protecting it further shouldn't be a problem with anybody as long as it doesn't affects their systems. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Dave dave...@gmail.com mailto:dave...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I don't know the laws of your country, however, encrypting GSM might be illegal. Dave On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Thomas Zimmermann m...@vdm-design.de mailto:m...@vdm-design.de wrote: On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 08:56:45 Radek Polak wrote: On Wednesday 18 January 2012 07:16:06 Arslan Abbasi wrote: The Inter IC sound pins interfaced with the audio codec. I need help regarding any sound manipulation on this platform, if any code is available. IIRC there was a program which recorded phone call if this is what you need. I dont know how it's done on GTA02 but on GTA04 phone modem is just another sound card which can be used by alsa programs. E.g. you can play mp3 instead of speaking. Regards Radek There was already somebody who developed a program to do encrypted GSM calls with two FR. But i don't remeber who it was. But one should find something in the archive of this mailinglist. Regards, Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OT] Raspberry Pi
Hi All, Probably Off Topic, but for the ARM hackers among us, this [1] looks very promising. Kind regards, Ed [1] http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hacky new year!
Best wishes for everyone and may the GTA04 be a smash hit in 2012! Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan
On 12/30/2011 06:59 PM, Gerald A wrote: On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com mailto:h...@goldelico.com wrote: The other strategy is the one taken by Apple. They have a very low marketing budget compared to other companies. And the media are still happy to report every small move at no cost... ... which is because Apple is super secretive, so even rumors become big news. While this is a great strategy, it becomes difficult to achieve if you are trying to have everything open. What I think is lost in all of this is the question: Who is the intended customer? I've seen some people talk about linux geeks, etc etc. However, at least for the first rev of the GTA04, it's _hardware_ geeks, and hardcore ones at that, which is the focus. There are lots of unix-heads that would love a phone that is free-er then Android or Apple let you be. But having to buy a phone, then cannibalize it with another kit you buy? It's definitely outside the mainstream. Now, it's not that I don't want this project to succeed. I think it's a great cause -- I was one of the early GTA01 (neo) buyers. For me, I don't have time right now to assemble a Freerunner and a GTA04 to get a working phone with possibilities. I want the completed package, then end result. The neo was shipped with the slogan some assembly required, which gave you the right idea. I thought that it just needed a good software stack to make things great. (I still do). What might work is having people invest, rather then buy something. That's something I could wrap my head around. Make the open phone happen -- Invest now. Don't make it complicated or expensive. $10 in one 'block' kind of thing. Maybe 40 blocks would allow the investor to see a completed phone, if one was to ever be produced. Make the risks clear -- the open phone might never come to market, but if we get 5000 blocks sold, we then have the muscle to negotiate with the big boys. The issue here is what is in it for the little guy, and I'd be a bit fuzzy. 40 blocks gets a phone, but what if I buy 2? Do I get the use of a phone for a week? :P I also don't know the legal side of calling it an investment (rather then a donation or a purchase). But this would be simpler to market, and would have better funding potential then selling the kit. As an aside -- if I have extra cash, I might be willing to buy a kit or two -- but they would either end up as donations to others, or as a dust collector. So it's not that I'm not willing to put money into it. But I also realize that one or two more kits won't make this happen in isolation. Thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community My thoughts too, set up a kind of micro credit, where people can lent money, lets say 100 euro, and with that money build the phones. Once the phones are made, more developers can develop different aspects of the phone and people will see the GTA04 become more mature. I think success stories with video clips on youtube will convince more people to buy a GTA04 then good stories on paper. And the microcreditters can either get their money back once all phones are sold, or can get a 110 euro discount when they buy a GTA04. Just my thoughts.. Kind regards, Ed PS i guess you must be Dutch to come up with a micro credit plan in west-europe ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SMedia Glamo documentation officially released
That sounds great! Would this mean that someone can build a dedicated Xorg-server module for the glamo? Or was all this already a public secret through the leaked documents? Kind regards and a happy new year, Ed On 12/27/2011 09:46 PM, Martix wrote: Hi, I just found link to SMedia Glamo documentation on openmoko.org[1] in already published Community Updates.[2] [1] http://people.openmoko.org/sean/datasheets/glamo3362/ [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2011-12-01 I didn't find any announcement on Openmoko mailing list. Maybe Sean planned an announcement on Christmas Eve and forgot on it. Best Regards, Martix ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SMedia Glamo documentation officially released
So, would drivers written based on the released documentation overcome these shortcomings? Kind regards, Ed On 12/28/2011 09:12 PM, Martix wrote: What do you mean by build? xserver-xorg-video-glamo source code is released under GNU/GPL from begining, but it lacks of many features as OpenGL ES 1.5 support and DRI compatible MPEG4 decoding. Linux kernel have compatibility issues with some SD cards, which can be workarounded by setting lower glamo_mci.sd_max_clk. Don't know whether is it HW or SW problem. Best Regards, Martix Dne 28.12.2011 19:31, Ed Kapitein napsal(a): That sounds great! Would this mean that someone can build a dedicated Xorg-server module for the glamo? Or was all this already a public secret through the leaked documents? Kind regards and a happy new year, Ed On 12/27/2011 09:46 PM, Martix wrote: Hi, I just found link to SMedia Glamo documentation on openmoko.org[1] in already published Community Updates.[2] [1] http://people.openmoko.org/sean/datasheets/glamo3362/ [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2011-12-01 I didn't find any announcement on Openmoko mailing list. Maybe Sean planned an announcement on Christmas Eve and forgot on it. Best Regards, Martix ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: uSD corruption
On Friday 16 December 2011 00:39:36 fdvj...@vodafone.it wrote: Il 15/12/2011 22:57, Boudewijn ha scritto: On Thursday 15 December 2011 22:23:56 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: fdvj...@vodafone.it writes: experience, during a day of usage, several freezings. I mean, when it 1) What kernel? 2) What boot loader? 3) What boot options? 4) What filesystem? 5) uSD speed? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Sorry for the missing infos. OS: qtmoko v35 with kernel 2.6.34; bootloader: qi (shipped with qtomoko v35), no particular boot options, IINW; filesystem: ext2; uSD type: micro SDHC sdc4 8 gb class 4 Regards Joif Hi Joif, Please take a look at [1] and [2] on how to set the SD clock to a lower value. The drive strength param might have changed with the newer kernel, you have to google a bit to see what is the right one. Kind regards, Ed [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards/SD-C02G [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards PS I still have sometimes data coruption on the SD card ( once every 2 months or so) so it still is not perfect, but very usable. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit for QtMoko
big +1 ! On 12/15/2011 06:29 PM, Griera wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:00:34 +0100 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, also navit is now ported to qtmoko. Please check: http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/apps/qtmoko-navit.html Nice. Thanks a lot!! for install instuctions. It's still quite ugly hack. E.g. i modified QtGui.pc so that it passes -lqtopia but otherwise it should work quite nice. I have to somehow solve automatic downloading of dependencies when .deb is clicked in browser so that install is even easier. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: navit / making announcement not execute a command line call as well
Hi Robin, I have something like this in my navit.xml: speech type=cmdline data=/home/navit/scripts/say_it.sh '%s'/ and /home/navit/scripts/say_it.sh is a script that does some post processing for speech, but you can make it do anything i guess. The %s is passed on to the script as command line parameters, so you could first handle $* in the script and then dim/brighten the screen. Kind regards, Ed On 11/13/2011 07:32 PM, robin wrote: Maybe someone from the openmoko list is using navit and has an idea if one can make the announcement tag not only announce the the next direction to turn to but also to execute a command as well. My idea would be to have navit fully dimmed if one is travelling on the correct path. Once a there are crossings and directions are announced the display will change brightness via a fso call. once travelling on the right track again the display should be dimmed again. anyone has any idea? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Kernel Sources
Hi Radek, I want to build a kernel on the qemu buildhost, where can i find the kernel sources you use? kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: linmodem
Hi, A while ago i tried to connect 2 freerunners over the GSM band. But there was too much phase shift, to get a working signal, so i let it rest for a while. But last week i stumbled on this [1] page which stated that for a voice call you need to end the number with ; so i tried it without the ; and you get a data call instead ! I managed to couple the two FR's in this way, but the connection is not very stable. Is there documentation on how to use the data modem part of the GSM modem? I am looking for baudrates, compression, error correction etc. So far i have it somewhat stable on +/- 1200 Baud, using tc to control the bandwith. (without it the modem will lockup, like it does when using gprs sometimes) Kind regards, Ed [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GSM On 09/29/2010 09:19 PM, Ed Kapitein wrote: Hi all, I recently bought another freerunner and i have a plan with my provider that will give me free calls between my family members. Is there someone who ever hookup up two freerunners, using phonecalls? I took a look at [1] that uses a linmodem, software only modem. With this software you can hook up two computers using the soundcards. Is Something simmilar possible wit 2 FR 's? Kind regards, Ed [1] http://bellard.org/linmodem.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Broken Freerunner - repairable?
On 08/03/2011 07:04 PM, omcomali@porcupinefactory.org wrote: Hi all, Last week I was unfortunate enough to have my Freerunner submerged in a lake for a short moment. While I took out the battery immediately, it doesn't quite work any more. It spent about 10 secs underwater, and after a few days of drying, it seems to boot properly both from NAND menu and plain power-button method. The problem is, the screen goes gradually white at some points during boot (but not on the SHR-Today screen, where the screen shows distorted copies of the screen). I tried reflashing a newer SHR version, but apparently the drawing methods are still the same. There's a video of the boot process here: http://porcupinefactory.org/data/brokenFR.avi (5 MB). After the video ends, the screen goes white again. It doesn't show NAND boot menu which works fine. Can anyone point me to which replaceable part may be broken? Is it the whole screen module that needs to be replaced? Cheers, rhn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi Rhn, It doesn't seem to be that broken, it boots, but it shows no splash screen. Did you try to leave it on for 10/15 minutes and see what happens? The freerunner has three (?) splash screens, did you try to reflash them as well? [1] I hope the FR will come to live again. Kind regards, Ed PS i was not able to reflash my splash screens, so if it doesn't work as per wiki, don't dispair. if you are able to reflash the splash screen, please correct the wiki if it was incorrect. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Splash_screen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: general SD card read/write problem
On 06/02/2011 12:42 PM, Dmitry Shalnoff wrote: Hello Everybody, I have a periodically appeared problem with SD card writing/reading functionality. I has several cards to try and found some correlation with size and speed type of the card. ' Problems are appers when I'm trying to write intensively on the card. Usually on the next boot I found filesystem corrupted and cant' mount card anymore till I fsck it (with predictable files damage) or reformat. generally it's looks like 16GB cards almost 100% cases have problems. and as I suppose 4 class cards more prone to problem than class 6. Question is simple: Is my suspicions are correct (concerning class and card size)? what is general recommendations? Who has any good/bad experience with different types of cards? I know about this topic http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards , but it's doesn't looks like relevant tutorial to buy fail-safe SD and obviously this problem doesn't rely on brand name too. thank you beforehand for any help, Dmitry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi Dmitry, I also had some trouble with my SD cards. For me it seems that using u-boot with 4-4-4 timing settings gives a much more reliable use of the SD cards. With the 2-4-2 timing i have a lot of file corruption, so i switched back to an old kernel and the old 2-4-2 timing and have had little or no problem with the SD cards since i switched back. I love to hear if your troubles are over too when you switch back. I got my u-boot from [1] I run my distro from the SD card, so corruption is really annoying for me. Kind regards, Ed [1] http://www.bsdmn.com/cgit/cgit/u-boot/snapshot/u-boot-gena2x.tar.bz2 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner as a mobile gateway - shipping container
On 05/23/2011 07:24 PM, Phil Vandry wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 03:19:16PM +0200, Eric Smith wrote: Main application here is in a sea shipping container. The key issues are RF communication (when in a GSM range of course) and power management due to the long haul journey including journey overland. Power supply has to be in the form of an additional battery. Technical issue is to have minimal size OS and to be low in power consumption. And robust. If you sleep and only wake up at intervals, you should anticipate some difficulty acquiring a GPS signal every time you wake up. The GPS in the Freerunner is really designed to make use of A-GPS and if you can't do it because you are at sea and far from any network signal, it can take a long time to get a position. We have sometimes seen it take over 40 minutes to get a good fix (unit mounted on an aircraft glareshield). -Phil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community You could overcome the TTFF problem by using the agps software from [1] It loads the needed data from the gps chip and uses that the next time you power on the gps unit. I usually get a fix in 2 minutes. If you send the log data to a server via GPRS, you might want to use rsync with the --inplace option. The logs will only grow i suspect and i use this method of transferring the gps log from my car to my server at home, while driving. It also helps to chop the log files in smaller parts (+/- 2Mb per file) in case the GPRS connection is not that reliable, a resend will take less time. Roaming data can be expensive, so you might want to look at that too, with your mobile phone provider. Good luck with your project, and keep us posted about the successes/failures, we would like to learn from it. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner as a mobile gateway - shipping container
[1] https://github.com/gabrys/gta02-agps :-) On 05/24/2011 02:42 PM, Ed Kapitein wrote: On 05/23/2011 07:24 PM, Phil Vandry wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 03:19:16PM +0200, Eric Smith wrote: Main application here is in a sea shipping container. The key issues are RF communication (when in a GSM range of course) and power management due to the long haul journey including journey overland. Power supply has to be in the form of an additional battery. Technical issue is to have minimal size OS and to be low in power consumption. And robust. If you sleep and only wake up at intervals, you should anticipate some difficulty acquiring a GPS signal every time you wake up. The GPS in the Freerunner is really designed to make use of A-GPS and if you can't do it because you are at sea and far from any network signal, it can take a long time to get a position. We have sometimes seen it take over 40 minutes to get a good fix (unit mounted on an aircraft glareshield). -Phil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community You could overcome the TTFF problem by using the agps software from [1] It loads the needed data from the gps chip and uses that the next time you power on the gps unit. I usually get a fix in 2 minutes. If you send the log data to a server via GPRS, you might want to use rsync with the --inplace option. The logs will only grow i suspect and i use this method of transferring the gps log from my car to my server at home, while driving. It also helps to chop the log files in smaller parts (+/- 2Mb per file) in case the GPRS connection is not that reliable, a resend will take less time. Roaming data can be expensive, so you might want to look at that too, with your mobile phone provider. Good luck with your project, and keep us posted about the successes/failures, we would like to learn from it. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] amd64 compilation trouble
Hi Giacomo, There might be something wrong with the libraries, can you check with: ldd /opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/bin/arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc-4.3 Kind regards, Ed On Monday 16 May 2011 14:44:31 giacomo 'giotti' mariani wrote: and the -verbose option gives: [...] eval: 1: arm-linux-gcc: not found [...] does this work for you like for me? radek at rp-skunk:~$ /opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/bin/arm-linux-gcc arm-linux-gcc: no input files Regards Radek Hi Radek, Yes, it behaves quite exactly the same: $ /opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/bin/arm-linux-gcc -bash: /opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/bin/arm-linux-gcc: No such file or directory Ehm quite exactly the same? You are obviously missing toolchain. Please follow once more the README [1], and make sure you did the step called * Download and install toolchain Regards Radek [1] https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/README Hi Radek, my message could give that idea, but I installed the toolchain following your README. In fact: jack@nb2-mariani:~$ ls -l /opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/bin/arm-linux-gcc lrwxrwxrwx 1 jack jack 25 2011-05-13 11:52 /opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/bin/arm-linux-gcc - arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc-4.3 jack@nb2-mariani:~$ file /opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/bin/arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc-4.3 /opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/bin/arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc-4.3: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped jack@nb2-mariani:~$ /opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/bin/arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc-4.3 -bash: /opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/bin/arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc-4.3: No such file or directory Thanks for your help Giacomo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Nand neeeded ?
Hi all, In order to investigate my SD issues, i decided to erase my nand today. That went well and NOR booting from the SD card worked fine too. But when the phone went into suspend, it would not wake up again. When pressing the power button the FR started to make a hissing noise. removing the battery helped and then i could repeat the whole procedure. (booting, suspending and hissing) After i flashed qi, the kernel and the qtmoko v35 version, booting from NOR and suspending/resuming works fine again. So the question is: Is there a part of the nand needed after the phone is booted? What part of the nand might be needed when resuming from suspend? Kind regards, @ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Nand neeeded ?
On 04/24/2011 11:34 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org writes: So the question is: Is there a part of the nand needed after the phone is booted? What part of the nand might be needed when resuming from suspend? The boot loader in nand is used also when you resume from suspend unless you hold AUX down. If you erased your nand boot loader it won't obviously resume :-) Sounds like what happend to me! So if i have qi as a boot loader, with the 242 timing, and boot the SD card from NOR, i end up with the 242 timing after a suspend/resume cycle? ( i suspect the 242 timing to have something to do with the problems i have with my SD cards.) Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v35
On Tuesday 12 April 2011 10:34:38 giacomo 'giotti' mariani wrote: Hello everyone, [...] We had problems with ubifs too. Gennady talked to ubifs devs and they would like to see the kernel message and nandump so they could try too look into it. It seems that ubifs is not as stable as jffs2 which was 100% perfect. Only problem is that jffs2 cant do mmap and apt-get does not work without mmap. Jffs2 will never do mmap (according to the main devel it's a lot of complex work because of compression) so we have these options now: * live with bugged ubifs * patch apt-get so that it works without mmap * use the old trick with /var/cache/apt on tmpfs, but this has problems with limited memory and bigger upates/upgrades might not work * use some other flash filesystem - yaffs seems but does not support compression, i havent looked at logfs yet So any suggestions? We could use jffs2 if we link /var/cache/apt to a tiny partition on SD. Then while SD is in huge updates will work, if SD is removed - no apt, but still a runing system. In my opinion ubifs is a great improvement: it looks faster than jffs2 and less memory consumer than jffs2. It should be used, if possible. So I suggest to use it and to send kernel messages and nandump to ubifs guys in order to help them. And that's what I'm doing ;-) Cheers Giacomo Perhaps just a crazy idea: make a loopback file with a ext2/3 fs and mount that on /var/cache/apt ? Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another open hardware mod experiment: RFID-tag/Reader board for the Freerunner, Nanonote (?) and Beagleboard
Hi Nikolaus, Just an idea: handheld scanner for pets (veterinarian, animal rescue workers etc) It could read the animals rfid chip and do a lookup in the database to show the owner. Kind regards, Ed On Monday 11 April 2011 09:59:38 Denis Shulyaka wrote: Hi Nikolaus, Great news! Here in Moscow, some of the tickets to public transport are basically RFID tags. Will I be able to copy them and use my Free Runner for it with this hardware? Best regards, Denis Shulyaka. 2011/4/11 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com: Dear all, besides the GTA04 and the Freerunner Navigation Board, we have been working behind the scenes on a new hardware mod, originally for the Openmoko Freerunner. It is a RFID Antenna, RFID Tag (M24LR64) and a RFID Reader (TRF7960) board. For 13 MHz (ISO14443, ISO15693). The project is still in its beginnings, but the hardware is designed and first samples have been built and appear to work (at least as far as we could test them). And, a first U-Boot based driver running on a BeagleBoard has shown that the RFID reader chip responds and sends interrupts. The tag chip also works and has been tested with an external USB based reader stick. The boards have solder points so that it should be possible to interface to different SoC and boards, e.g. BeagleBoard, Nanonote, OpenPandora... The minimum wiring is that it nedds 3.3V power, 3 SPI wires and a INT line to a GPIO. If power should be controlled or the SoC has 1.8V I/O, more wires are needed. For documentation and details I have uploaded some material to this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_RFID_Board Schematics and board layout are available in EAGLE format. Now, what can you do with it? I don't know but would be happy to hear about ideas... We have the idea to sell these complete boards at 79 EUR (which is approx. half the price of a TI eval board), if you are interested in experimenting with this technology. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko and u-boot
On 04/01/2011 11:24 PM, W. B. Kranendonk wrote: --- On Fri, 4/1/11, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote: On 04/01/2011 05:20 PM, Gennady Kupava wrote: В Птн, 01/04/2011 в 17:00 +0200, Ed Kapitein пишет: On Friday 01 April 2011 14:52:02 David Matthews wrote: I had a few problems with several uSD Any chance all of them are broken? I got a whole collection of Sandisk uSD cards that gave up the gost a while back, making me distrust my Freerunner, my laptop, some camera's and some card readers. Do your filesystems only get corrupted when using it in your FR? Boudewijn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi Boudewijn, The card themselves are fine when used on my desktop computer, several read write cycles give no errors at all. So the corruption only happens in conjunction with the FR. It is a pity that i can't trigger the corruption in anyway, so it is a matter of waiting for a while and see if the FS stays clean. so, i'll just have to wait and see what happens. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qtmoko and u-boot
Hi All, I had a few problems with several uSD cards lately and i am trying to figure out what is going wrong. It used to be much more stable than it is now, i have massive file system corruption on a weekly basis. So i decided to downgrade to u-boot (was using qi) and back to an old andy- tracking kernel. Also i reverted back to xorg-server using the fbdev driver instead of the glamo driver. But i noticed that Qtmoko won't boot when using u-boot, it works fine when using qi. Is there something i can do to use u-boot and qtmoko together? Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko and u-boot
On Friday 01 April 2011 14:52:02 David Matthews wrote: I had a few problems with several uSD cards lately and i am trying to figure out what is going wrong. It used to be much more stable than it is now, i have massive file system corruption on a weekly basis. So i decided to downgrade to u-boot (was using qi) and back to an old andy- tracking kernel. Also i reverted back to xorg-server using the fbdev driver instead of the glamo driver. Ed - do you have a nand install and are the problems occurring after a reboot? If so it's probably the same issue I posted about several weeks back - I did post a work around as well, which for me at least, works fine. Hi David, Thanks for the reply, but my situation is different. I have qtmoko on nand and gentoo on uSD, and qi as a bootloader to choose between the two, Even without rebooting the FR it start to mess up my uSD card filesystem. sometimes files that are unreadable are just fine after a reboot, sometimes the files are really messed up and need to be restored. It might well be that the glamo is getting bad or that there is another kind of hardware failure going on. I tried using ext2fs and ext3fs but hat does not change anything. ATM i am booting the SD card form nor boot and qtmoko from qi. But i would like to be able to use nand u-boot to boot from the SD card and from nand. Kind regrads, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko and u-boot
On 04/01/2011 05:20 PM, Gennady Kupava wrote: В Птн, 01/04/2011 в 17:00 +0200, Ed Kapitein пишет: On Friday 01 April 2011 14:52:02 David Matthews wrote: I had a few problems with several uSD cards lately and i am trying to figure out what is going wrong. It used to be much more stable than it is now, i have massive file system corruption on a weekly basis. So i decided to downgrade to u-boot (was using qi) and back to an old andy- tracking kernel. Also i reverted back to xorg-server using the fbdev driver instead of the glamo driver. Ed - do you have a nand install and are the problems occurring after a reboot? If so it's probably the same issue I posted about several weeks back - I did post a work around as well, which for me at least, works fine. Hi David, Thanks for the reply, but my situation is different. I have qtmoko on nand and gentoo on uSD, and qi as a bootloader to choose between the two, Even without rebooting the FR it start to mess up my uSD card filesystem. sometimes files that are unreadable are just fine after a reboot, sometimes the files are really messed up and need to be restored. It might well be that the glamo is getting bad or that there is another kind of hardware failure going on. I tried using ext2fs and ext3fs but hat does not change anything. ATM i am booting the SD card form nor boot and qtmoko from qi. But i would like to be able to use nand u-boot to boot from the SD card and from nand. Hi, Ed, I am using mine u-boot with few fixes, it's not without bugs, but it probably has less bugs than openmoko's u-boot: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-boot-gena2x Also i'd suggest to try reducing sd card clock in kernel params (in u-boot env, glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=1500). And do backups. I am just removing sd card and do full dd dump of contents to hdd, this takes 10 mins, but 100% error-proof, easy, fast and painless recover. without any problems with partitions or anything else. Gennady. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi Gennady Thanks i see that it uses the 2-4-2 timings, so i will try it after running with the current setup for a while. I do make backups, with rdiff-backup, so i have almost 2 years of backups without wasting to much diskspace. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [openmoko-announce] Neo RoadRunner
Perhaps the date is suspicious ... ;-) On 04/01/2011 09:19 PM, Kosa wrote: However, the site has not been updated. No info about it yet. is http://openmoko.org the right place to go? Thanks again. Kosa El 01/04/11 13:15, Kosa escribió: :D:D:D ¡qué chido!! Thanks for keeping the openhardware effort live and running :) Kosa El 01/04/11 12:58, Sean Moss-Pultz escribió: This email was sent via Anonymous email service for free. YOU CAN REMOVE THIS TEXT MESSAGE BY BEING A PAID MEMBER FOR $19/year. Message ID= 60854 Dear Community! Today, with the greatest of pleasure, I am ready to share with you the birth of our new product -- Neo RoadRunner. The world's first MeeGo powered GPS road navigation in the palm of your hand. Accessible immediately, anytime, anywhere without requiring an Internet connection. No strings attached. With Neo RoadRunner you'll be prepared for those unexpected moments when curiosity strikes. And once you have it, you'll realize how often you get lost on road during the day. Neo RoadRunner takes our original ideas of openness and accessibility to an even greater realm. Neo RoadRunner is so amazingly simple. There really is no closed part. We built our software stack on top of MeeGo distribution and we use openstreetmap.org project as a source for our navigation data. You turn it on and instantly become discovered on the map at any place you are. It's perfect for all purposes. From the Aha! moment when we held our first prototypes, to the last few months as we worked around the clock to polish every last detail, this product was a joy to make and even more fun to experience. We are head-over-heels in love with Neo RoadRunner. Never have I found so much fun in the little moments of curiosity life offers us. Try one and I'm sure you'll agree that we've delivered the essence of GPS navigation in an addictively simple form factor. Sales start today at http://openmoko.com. Enjoy. Tell your friends. And let us know what you think! Sincerely Sean Moss-Pultz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MicroSD cards support questions in gta02
Hi Alexandros, Good to hear that! Please try some other values for the clock settings in /boot/append-GTA02, and some smaller values for the slow_ratio setting. i think the system will be slow now, adjusting these values might make your freerunner faster. (or instable ;-) ) Kind Regards, Ed On 02/27/2011 02:27 PM, Πρεκατές Αλέξανδρος wrote: Qi booted qtmoko from my sdcard in gta02 successfully . Thank you for the detailed instructions. Alexandros Στις Κυριακή 27 Φεβρουάριος 2011 00:23:11 Ed Kapitein γράψατε: Hi Alexandros, Well, it seems good, the freerunner regonizes the card and loads the kernel. The kernel panic is as expected, there is just a kernel on the card and no distro yet. Could you try to install the root files system from [2] ? After you installed it make sure to install the kernel in /boot as uImage-GTA02.bin and add the /boot/append-GTA02. (you could make a tar file before installing the rootfs) in cut and paste style: mkdir /tmp/mpt mount /dev/sde1 /tmp/mpt cd /tmp/mpt tar -czf /tmp/old_boot.tgz ./boot tar -xzvpf /the/downloaded/qtmoko-debian-v31.tar.gz tar -xzvpf /tmp/old_boot.tgz cd / umount /tmp/mpt eject /dev/sde put the card in the freerunner and boot using qi That should give you a working distro. Please let us know any success/failure! Kind regards, Ed [2] http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/qtmoko-debian-v31.tar.gz/down load ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MicroSD cards support questions in gta02
On 02/26/2011 09:41 PM, Πρεκατές Αλέξανδρος wrote: Thanks for the reply Ed. My gta02 boots every 10 sec and the last messages seen before boot is in the image : http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=1848 The images i used for kernel and qi where from: http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/ I took the kernel from: qtmoko-debian-v31.tar.gz after extracting it in a local folder. Also if its usefull: #mke2fs /dev/sde1 mke2fs 1.41.12 (17-May-2010) Filesystem label= OS type: Linux Block size=4096 (log=2) Fragment size=4096 (log=2) Stride=0 blocks, Stripe width=0 blocks 486720 inodes, 1946368 blocks 97318 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user First data block=0 Maximum filesystem blocks=1996488704 60 block groups 32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group 8112 inodes per group Superblock backups stored on blocks: 32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736, 1605632 Writing inode tables: done Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done Στις Σάββατο 26 Φεβρουάριος 2011 01:14:02 Ed Kapitein γράψατε: On 02/25/2011 10:08 PM, Πρεκατές Αλέξανδρος wrote: Having spend a day and some trying to boot qtmoko or shr trying different combinations (bootloader+ distributions + partition scheme ) from two micro sd card i own, without any success , and since the cards are accesible from linux kernel i'd like to pledge for help in that issue. I admit i havent play more with uboot enviroment and uboot prompt but i've tries the rootdelay option... Hi Alexandros, I use sd cards to run a distro and it works fine ( there are some problems with the speed an reliability ) I would suggest to format the sd card as one partion with ext2 (on a pc with a sd card reader for example) and put the qtmoko kernel in the /boot directory of the card and name it uImage-GTA02.bin. And write console=tty0 loglevel=3 rootwait panic=10 glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=500 glamo_mci.sd_post_power_clock=500 glamo_mci.sd_slow_ratio=16 in /boot/append-GTA02 Could you please report back what happens when you try to boot then from the SD card. It should start a kernel and panic at the end loading the kernel. ( there is no init yet) Please hold the power button to get some diagnostics printed on your screen. Kind regards, Ed cut and paste: mke2fs /dev/sdb1 ( assuming /dev/sdb is your sd card ) mkdir /tmp/mpt mount /dev/sdb1 /tmp/mpt mkdir /tmp/mpt/boot cp /some/place/qtmoko_kernel /tmp/mpt/boot/uImage-GTA02.bin echo console=tty0 loglevel=3 rootwait panic=10 glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=500 glamo_mci.sd_post_power_clock=500 glamo_mci.sd_slow_ratio=16 /tmp/mpt/boot/append-GTA02 umount /tmp/mpt eject /dev/sdb put the card in the freerunner and boot using qi. Hi Alexandros, Well, it seems good, the freerunner regonizes the card and loads the kernel. The kernel panic is as expected, there is just a kernel on the card and no distro yet. Could you try to install the root files system from [2] ? After you installed it make sure to install the kernel in /boot as uImage-GTA02.bin and add the /boot/append-GTA02. (you could make a tar file before installing the rootfs) in cut and paste style: mkdir /tmp/mpt mount /dev/sde1 /tmp/mpt cd /tmp/mpt tar -czf /tmp/old_boot.tgz ./boot tar -xzvpf /the/downloaded/qtmoko-debian-v31.tar.gz tar -xzvpf /tmp/old_boot.tgz cd / umount /tmp/mpt eject /dev/sde put the card in the freerunner and boot using qi That should give you a working distro. Please let us know any success/failure! Kind regards, Ed [2] http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/qtmoko-debian-v31.tar.gz/download ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bind / unbind
Thanks, that is it ! Kind regards, Ed On Friday 25 February 2011 08:42:01 Radek Polak wrote: On Thursday 24 February 2011 12:24:03 Ed Kapitein wrote: I use to be able to unbind the wifi card with the following command: echo s3c2440-sdi /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi/unbind any idea what the command is for the newer kernel (2.6.34.7-v31 ) ? I did try several in the /sys tree, but to no avail. I think echo s3c2440-sdi /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c-sdi/bind echo s3c2440-sdi /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c-sdi/unbind but i cant verify now. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MicroSD cards support questions in gta02
On 02/25/2011 10:08 PM, Πρεκατές Αλέξανδρος wrote: Having spend a day and some trying to boot qtmoko or shr trying different combinations (bootloader+ distributions + partition scheme ) from two micro sd card i own, without any success , and since the cards are accesible from linux kernel i'd like to pledge for help in that issue. I admit i havent play more with uboot enviroment and uboot prompt but i've tries the rootdelay option. Some questions: 1)For example why there is need each dist to have its customized bootloader file? Doesnt that imply that there is no general bootloader working like in desktop pcs? 2)Why generally speaking its so difficult to boot from a sdcard? Is the microsd interface closed and thus a libre drivers has holes? Is it a card's fault ? (in what way , shouldnt they comply with a standard? ). Is it glamo hardware thing? Is the glamo mmc driver 's fault ? All the above in different combinations? Some reports (the kernel? or the bootloader? stops and i get messages like below) qi booting shr SoftDog: cannot register miscdev on minor=130 (err=-16) EXT2-fs (mmcblk0p1): error: ext2_lookup: deleted inode referenced : 267697 Kernel panic - not syncing : No init found. Try passing init=option to kernel uboot booting shr- card type :SD 2.0 SDHC Manufacturer: Product name: SA08G, revision 0.4 Serial number: Manufacturing date: 4/2010 MMC/SD size : 3MiB Unable to read uImage.bin from mmc 1:2 wrong image format for bootm command Error cant get kernel image Related reports: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1815 https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1719 https://https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743 PS: my 2 cards are 8 GB microSDHC memory card Kingston (class 4 : 15MBit/s-2MB/s) and a 1GB from a nokia phone with no company logo. Also i've asked a friend and i'll try with a sandisk 4GB. Thanks! Alexandros librephone.gr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi Alexandros, I use sd cards to run a distro and it works fine ( there are some problems with the speed an reliability ) I would suggest to format the sd card as one partion with ext2 (on a pc with a sd card reader for example) and put the qtmoko kernel in the /boot directory of the card and name it uImage-GTA02.bin. And write console=tty0 loglevel=3 rootwait panic=10 glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=500 glamo_mci.sd_post_power_clock=500 glamo_mci.sd_slow_ratio=16 in /boot/append-GTA02 Could you please report back what happens when you try to boot then from the SD card. It should start a kernel and panic at the end loading the kernel. ( there is no init yet) Please hold the power button to get some diagnostics printed on your screen. Kind regards, Ed cut and paste: mke2fs /dev/sdb1 ( assuming /dev/sdb is your sd card ) mkdir /tmp/mpt mount /dev/sdb1 /tmp/mpt mkdir /tmp/mpt/boot cp /some/place/qtmoko_kernel /tmp/mpt/boot/uImage-GTA02.bin echo console=tty0 loglevel=3 rootwait panic=10 glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=500 glamo_mci.sd_post_power_clock=500 glamo_mci.sd_slow_ratio=16 /tmp/mpt/boot/append-GTA02 umount /tmp/mpt eject /dev/sdb put the card in the freerunner and boot using qi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bind / unbind
Hi all, I use to be able to unbind the wifi card with the following command: echo s3c2440-sdi /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi/unbind any idea what the command is for the newer kernel (2.6.34.7-v31 ) ? I did try several in the /sys tree, but to no avail. kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS and QtMoko (v32): can't
Hi All, I have had the same problem since i bought the freerunner, with all distros (OM200x, gentoo, qtmoko) The way i work arround it is by disabling the multiplexer and use the modem directly. That way i have a stable gprs connection. And when i am done using the gprs connection i restart the multiplexer again. Kind regards, Ed On Thursday 10 February 2011 09:24:58 Radek Polak wrote: On Wednesday 09 February 2011 18:28:48 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: This is http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2264 which has been worked around 4 months ago. Nobody has complained that the fix wouldn't work :-) This fix is in qtmoko for long time. I tried it and i looked ok. But this weekend i was using FR for sharing internet with PC and the GPRS always hanged up somehow - it was ok for some web pages but i was unable to transfer anything bigger. I was trying ~2MB file transfer over sftp and after many attempts i had to give up. I also tried to limit sfpt upload to 1kb/s but that didnt help either - so did it over wifi ;-) Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA04 Wiki
Hi Nikolaus, What would be a good idea is to have a list with working functionality for the device. That would give people an overview on how usable the device is for a certain task. for example: Yes No can send SMS X can make voice call X working X server X has working GPS X etc I don't know if it is wise from a buisness point of view, but i would love to know how many people have ordered the device yet. Kind regards, Ed On Friday 14 January 2011 14:09:45 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Behind the scenes a lot of things are slowly progressing. One part is setting up a web interface to important information. Therefore, we have now installed wiki.gta04.org which is completely virgin.. To start filling it with really useful information, please let us know which pages (keyword, short description) you would expect. Nikolaus PS: The early adopter offer is still open since we have not yet got a quotation for the memory chips (Micron MT29C or MT46 in 168-VFBGA) and those appear to be the most critical to secure first. The more orders we have the easier it becomes to talk to the distributors. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
QI kernel parameters
Hi all, I have a hard time with an SD card that will give errors whne running fsck, even right after an fresh mke2fs. So i am trying to slowdown the glamo, but that does not seem to work with QI acording to [1] i should work for nand in the same way as it does for sd card partitions. But that doesn't seem to be the case. Any other idea on how to supply kernel parameters while booting from NAND? Kind regards, Ed [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg39256.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QI kernel parameters
Hi Phil, Thanks for the tip, it seems like a hassle to recompile qi for setting the glamo clock speed. Anyway, i tried it, and i end up with: neo qi # make mkdir -p image ld: cannot open linker script file src/cpu//qi.lds: No such file or directory make: *** [image/qi--master_c38b062a609f1442.udfu] Error 1 I am building on the FR, so no toolchain there. Did you manage to get your SD card to work? if so how? Also in my case the error follows the SD card, another card (class 6) works just fine, but the new (class 4) is buggy. Kind regards, Ed On 01/02/2011 06:14 PM, Phil Vandry wrote: On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 05:43:36PM +0100, Ed Kapitein wrote: I have a hard time with an SD card that will give errors whne running fsck, even right after an fresh mke2fs. I have one of those too :-( The problem follows the μSD card, not the Freerunner. Any other idea on how to supply kernel parameters while booting from NAND? I needed to change the kernel command line and I found that it was easy to do by changing Qi's source code. Qi is very small so it's not daunting to modify and compiles in to time. All you need is a working toolchain. - git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/qi.git - find the function append_device_specific_cmdline_gta02 in src/cpu/s3c2442/gta02.c You can just add something like cmdline += strlen(strcpy(cmdline, youroption=yourvalue)); - make - Use dfu-util to flash the result onto the Freerunner. -Phil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] Your SIM storage is full.../PIM problem
Hi Bernard, You could debug it with the following command: dbus-send --system --dest=org.freesmartphone.ogsmd --print-reply /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.GetMessagebookInfo Read message 1 with: dbus-send --system --dest=org.freesmartphone.ogsmd --print-reply /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.RetrieveMessage int32:1 Or delete message 1 with: dbus-send --system --dest=org.freesmartphone.ogsmd --print-reply /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.DeleteMessage int32:1 This will give you a lowlevel view of the messages on your SIM Hope it helps. Kind regards, Ed On Saturday 18 December 2010 13:14:34 Bernhard Reiter wrote: Hi, i've just flashed my Freerunner to the latest SHR-unstable. Since a couple of days, (that is, with a previous SHR-u), I'm getting a message Your SIM storage is full. Please delete some messages or you may not receive them anymore! on a regular basis. The funny thing is, I did delete all my messages apart from two remaining ones, but SHR keeps complaining, and I really don't seem to be able to receive any text messages (SMS) anymore. Other than that, after starting programs like Contacts or Messages, they're showing that rotating indicator and an otherwise blank window -- what could be wrong there? TIA Bernhard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Address the WM8753 directly
On Sat, 2010-11-13 at 21:03 +0100, EdorFaus wrote: On 11/08/2010 11:47 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Ed Kapiteine...@kapitein.org writes: Does anyone have pointers on how to address the hardware and its registers etc? I want to write the program in C and need a starting point. I think you need to write kernel space code to use it since there are shared resources like i2c that can not be used without proper locking (just guessing here). I don't know wether or not that is true, but there is nevertheless a good suggestion between the lines here - for a working example of how to use this hardware, you can look at the driver in the Linux kernel. :) Thanks, I also think it is a good suggestion, so i will use the alsa driver for now. If i have build up enough courage i might try to replace the alsa part with something of my own. So far it is great fun to get it working by trial and error! Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
Hi Nikolaus, The story reads like a novel, with another cliffhanger every time:-) Keep up the good work! Kind regards, Ed On Sat, 2010-11-13 at 08:50 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Hi all, time for another update. Am 06.11.2010 um 12:35 schrieb Sylvain Paré: Thanks for the news Yesterday I received the second board where we did populate the TPS65950 (power controller). The results of measurements are: * the 32 kHz RTC clock is operating * when inserting a battery, most voltages are available as expected Bad news: * we have a short circuit on the 1V8 rail I have spent most of the night and this morning to track this down. It appears to be a solder short circuit under the TPS chip (a 0.4 mm pitch BGA). So I am currently sitting at our SMD rework company and looking over the shoulder of the CTO who has a lot of experience. Unfortunately I can't make photos. We already have unsoldered the TPS chip (that needs a really sophisticated machine) and the short has disappeared. The next step is to solder it back again and do the next tests. If that works, i.e. we get all voltages from the power controller, the 26 MHz oscillator should also start working. If that is ok, the OMAP and the POP memory will be soldered. Maybe we manage to get it today. Then, we can see if the CPU is doing something. Current status: the 1.8V is now working but the VDD2 (1.2 V) not. The TPS chip aborts the power up sequence early. We could solve that by adding a jump start resistor. Rene will upload some photos of the board and we will post a link. Here: http://download.goldelico.com/gta04/images/DSC00671.jpg http://download.goldelico.com/gta04/images/DSC00672.jpg Then, we soldered the OMAP3530 and Pop Memory chip and connected RS232: http://download.goldelico.com/gta04/images/DSC00679.jpg It did identify itself as 40W on the RS232 but did not boot beyond that. Fortunately the OMAP has a ROM bootloader (which generates the 40W sequence) and we could use it to download a special second stage boot-loader that has a simple commandline console on RS232. Note that it must fit into 64k SRAM built into the OMAP chip. So we are back to C64 times :) With this tool, we could identify that the (external) SDRAM has a stuck-at-1 error on a single bit-line. So we expected another soldering issue and had the OMAP+Pop replaced on Monday. But the error pattern remained the same! Unexpectedly, we were able to put the board into a 3D X-Ray machine on Tuesday (during Electronica Fair). Here are machine results: http://www.yxlon.com/y.Cheetah http://download.goldelico.com/gta04/images/2009%20Xray/ Fortunately it is *not* a soldering issue. And likely not a PCB production issue. Yesterday late at night we found the problem. It is a bad BGA ball assignment in our component library. VDDS_MEM (1.8V) is assigned to B17 instead of B18. And, B17 is data line 14 of the SDRAM and should have been left NC. Therefore we have tied one data line to a high-level... I think we can fix that for our samples but it needs some time and we run out of components for the samples. Especially memory chips have quite a long lead time. For the series version this will be very easy to fix. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
WM8753 Speaker Playback ZC Switch
Hi All,
I am happily hacking on my FR and was toying with the wolfson.
I happen to notice that in order to get any sound from the earpiece i
had to switch on the Speaker Playback ZC Switch.
That switch is mentioned in the statefile, but i can't find it in any of
the diagrams on [1] [2]
Is there someone with an updated version of the diagrams, that includes
the two switches below?
control.9 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Headphone Playback ZC Switch'
value.0 false
value.1 false
}
control.10 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Speaker Playback ZC Switch'
value.0 true
value.1 true
}
Kind regards,
Ed
[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem
[2] http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/audio_hubs/WM8753/
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Re: Address the WM8753 directly
On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 12:57 -0800, W. B. Kranendonk wrote: --- On Wed, 11/10/10, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: From: Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk The ultimate goal is to make a FR to FR modem conection, using the GSM voice band. Why? Is this just to see whether it's possible, or how bad the voice channel is as a data connection when compared to the data channel? I can imagine using such a solution on a flatfee subscribtion that does not include data traffic. Just don't tell me you want to use the resulting connection for VoIP :-P Boudewijn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi all, Yes, i would like to see if it is possible and refresh my C programming skills. It is indeed a flat fee voice subscription, data would cost extra. VOIP is not what i had in mind ;-) But i think i can use it to send GPS data from one FR to another. Or use it for a commandline connection. Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Address the WM8753 directly
Hi All, I want to hack a bit on the Wolfson sound chip. The ultimate goal is to make a FR to FR modem conection, using the GSM voice band. But the first step would be to generate a sine wave and feed it to the wolfson chip. I know i can use the alsa driver, but i would like to experiment a bit by addressing the hardware directly. Does anyone have pointers on how to address the hardware and its registers etc? I want to write the program in C and need a starting point. Example programs would be great, but all help is welcome! Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Always Innovating
Hi Thomas, A bit far off perhaps, but an similar effort has been done for the Ipod touch [1] Perhaps there are lessons learned from that project. Kind regrads, Ed [1] http://www.ipodnn.com/articles/10/09/08/third.party.skin.adds.calling.texting On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 10:28 +, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: SNIP The main idea I had was to plug everything through the 40pin connector. All the stuff will be contained in a case in parallel of the MiniMoko one. (a kind of 'slice' if you want). They wanted us to design the schema of what should be included the connections. For my part, I started with - 1 usb hub | free miniusb connector (to connect the outside world) | 3G usb key (some of them are working out of the box, got to find which) | GPS USB dongle (no idea of which one for now) \ Internal USB Port - Powering capabilities (through USB / extra battery?) There will be a problem in what size all this stuff will be, and as the MiniBook is 0.9cm wide, I don't want to make a hufghr sandwich ! If you have any idea/reference, it'll be welcome ! Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Always Innovating
Hi All, A while ago there was intrest in the MID of always inovating. They seem to be shipping the devices as of today. [1] So get them while they'r fresh ;-) Kind regards, Ed [1] https://www.alwaysinnovating.com/store/home.php ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
On 10/26/2010 03:17 PM, W. B. Kranendonk wrote: --- On Tue, 10/26/10, Andreas Fischer cyberf...@gmx.net wrote: On 26.10.2010 12:14, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: How many new cases would you and your friends buy if it costs: * 20 EUR * 50 EUR * 100 EUR * 200 EUR (...) 20 Euros is a no-brainer (...) 50 Euros still sound ok to me. Anything above 100 Euros seems to be a bit steep for me. I agree on the 20 and 50 euro options, when talking just about the case. When talking about (fictive) 350E for a complete phone, that seems OK if you don't know that it's 150 for electronics and 200 for the case. Over 100E might be steep for only the case, but combined with the foundation idea Nikolaus launched it might get interesting: * 20 E * 50 E * 100 E and one share in the Opencase foundation * 200 E and two shares in the Opencase foundation or a similar scheme. In case (no pun intended) we use a production method that scales well, the average case price will lower over time and after a break even the foundation could pay the shareholders. Probably gives loads of headaches in administration, but could be an option :-) Boudewijn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi All, Since it seems so hard to have a custom made case, why not use an existing case for a HTC, nokia, iphone or the like? (or a chinese replica) The layout of the PCB needs to be alltered ofcourse, but it seems that it might be an easier thing to do. Just my 2 cents. Kind regards, @ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing
On 10/26/2010 05:05 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: SNIP Hi All, Since it seems so hard to have a custom made case, why not use an existing case for a HTC, nokia, iphone or the like? (or a chinese replica) The layout of the PCB needs to be alltered ofcourse, but it seems that it might be an easier thing to do. Just my 2 cents. Interesting idea to think about. For me, this raises some questions. The first is: which one should we take? There are many candidates... Second one: do we want to become dependent on the availability of such products and/or spare parts? We need a source for pure spare parts where none of the *big five* can make our life even more difficult. Finally, it might become quite tricky to design a new PCB that fits into their cases because they use even more special tools and components than the Openmoko design does. If you look inside such a device they sometimes e.g. have multiple PCBs interconnected by Flex PCBs. Or they have custom designed connectors, buttons, springs, screws etc. Which is no problem if they produce 1 million units per month. Sean has given us a very important learning: we should use catalog components (e.g. DigiKey, Farnell, Mouser, RS-Components) as good as possible. Unfortunately they don't have a smartphone case. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi Nikolaus , I think all your points are valid, it would be just a start to get the phone out to the public And perhpaps a part of the price could be used to get the parts/equipment to make a custom case. I took a look at my old htc magican and the screen dimensions are the same as the FR. The photo button is almost at the same location as the AUX button. The power button is somewhere else though. a cover cost aprox 22 dollar at [1] and perhpas less if you order a 100 or so. It wouldn't be a perfect sollution, but it might be a step on the road. [1] http://www.globalwholesalebusiness.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=1products_id=4144 Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Carrier in Belgium
Hi Atilla, I use t-mobile in holland and have good experience with them for GRPS and normal GSM calls. I had also a good experience in the USA with t-mobile, also with both GPRS and GSM calls. So you could give them a try. Kind regards, Ed PS i am in no way associated with t-mobile :-) On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 23:36 +0200, Atilla Filiz wrote: (sorry for the duplicate) Hi list I am moving to Belgium in a couple of weeks and will buy a(probably prepaid) line from there. Can anyone tell which company plays well with FR hardware? I had problems with Vodafone NL before(GSM OK but no GPRS) also with Globul BG and I don't want this to happen again. -- Atilla ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v28
Hi Grennady, I notice two times menu_1= , is that intenional or just a typo? Kind regards, Ed On 10/21/2010 08:21 PM, Gennady Kupava wrote: В Чтв, 21/10/2010 в 20:57 +0200, David Garabana Barro пишет: Gennady Is your 242-glamo-timings uboot ubifs capable? I cannot boot qtmoko v28 with it, even after changing bootargs... Hi, David. Sure, it works ok here. Basically, u-boot's job on nand is only load kernel from fsless partition, transfer boot params to it, and execute kernel, so it is completely indefferent to kind of fs you have. glamo timings has no relation to NAND at all too. Recheck your env params and you downloaded everything in right way (kernel, u-boot env). My updated u-boot env (xfs on sd card): Source: http://www.bsdmn.com/openmoko/glamo/242/ubienv/environment.in Binary: http://www.bsdmn.com/openmoko/glamo/242/ubienv/u-boot_env.in3 Gennady ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: let's launch a FR into space
Hi all, From what i understand the doppler effect on the gsm signal limits the max speed to +/- 250 Km/h. So even with GSM coverage i doubt if it will be able to connect. Kind regards, Ed On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 16:15 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 18.10.2010 um 16:05 schrieb Michal Brzozowski: 2010/10/18 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com: I did not at all disagree with that and said: Good idea for repeating :) Sure! So, first idea. Is it possible to live stream the video from the launch? Very likely. Would a FR be able to connect to GSM cells from 30km above ground? I don't know but would doubt it from theory. Antennas on GSM base stations don't have a half-spherical characteristics but try to bundle the transmitter's energy to a location where it is needed mostly. And that is on earth's surface. But that could be part of the experiment. Just log the list of GSM base stations found. And add a Freerunner Navigation Board to get barometric altitude. So you can see at which altitude which signals can be received. Has anyone ever tried video streaming from the FR? The first questions is how to connect a camera. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
linmodem
Hi all, I recently bought another freerunner and i have a plan with my provider that will give me free calls between my family members. Is there someone who ever hookup up two freerunners, using phonecalls? I took a look at [1] that uses a linmodem, software only modem. With this software you can hook up two computers using the soundcards. Is Something simmilar possible wit 2 FR 's? Kind regards, Ed [1] http://bellard.org/linmodem.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
