[CGUYS] Recommendation for MIDI to USB cable
Any MIDI knowledgeable users in the group? Just got a keyboard and would like to connect to my laptop. Looking for a good MIDI to USB cable. See some very cheap (like $6); any good? Also any concern about the cable vis-a-vis drivers for Win 7 64-bit? Don't want to go further with MIDI help in this group, so can anyone point me to a good group for MIDI education and support (like software, synthesizers, editors, recorders etc.). Thanks, Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] FYI: News Alert: Court Rules Against F.C.C. in 'Net Neutrality' Case
Yes, we are communicating, but we are not Telecommunicating. When the laws governing regulation of it were established, Telecommunication was the telephone. My point is that voice is but a small element of the world of broadband and Congress should be the body to set its regulation, if it is to be regulated, not an FCC with political appointees who swing depending on the party in power. John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: I thought the court's ruling stated that Congress authorized the FCC to regulate only Telecommunications. If Congress wishes for the FCC to regulate Broadband, then it should do so. Hence Comcast, not a Telecommunications company, but a Broadband company does not fall under the juristicion of the FCC. Am I wrong? Are we not communicating here? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2799 - Release Date: 04/08/10 14:32:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] FYI: News Alert: Court Rules Against F.C.C. in 'Net Neutrality' Case
Of course Congress makes its decisions for political reasons! That's their job. Politicians are the ones who should be making law, not commissions. Politicians can be held accountable for their actions at election time. Stewart Marshall wrote: And Congress does not do this either? Stewart At 10:57 AM 4/9/2010, you wrote: Yes, we are communicating, but we are not Telecommunicating. When the laws governing regulation of it were established, Telecommunication was the telephone. My point is that voice is but a small element of the world of broadband and Congress should be the body to set its regulation, if it is to be regulated, not an FCC with political appointees who swing depending on the party in power. John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: I thought the court's ruling stated that Congress authorized the FCC to regulate only Telecommunications. If Congress wishes for the FCC to regulate Broadband, then it should do so. Hence Comcast, not a Telecommunications company, but a Broadband company does not fall under the juristicion of the FCC. Am I wrong? Are we not communicating here? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2799 - Release Date: 04/08/10 14:32:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2800 - Release Date: 04/09/10 02:32:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] FYI: News Alert: Court Rules Against F.C.C. in 'Net Neutrality' Case
I thought the court's ruling stated that Congress authorized the FCC to regulate only Telecommunications. If Congress wishes for the FCC to regulate Broadband, then it should do so. Hence Comcast, not a Telecommunications company, but a Broadband company does not fall under the juristicion of the FCC. Am I wrong? mike wrote: You mean like where the FCC under Bush tried to make throttling illegal? Now the courts decided the FCC can't do that, so back to the big providers deciding what content they want to give you at what speed. On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:19 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: A federal appeals court has ruled that the Federal Communications Commission lacks the authority to require broadband providers to give equal treatment to all Internet traffic flowing over their networks. I heard the tail end of this story on Market Place this afternoon. Then they said that Comcast's stock went *down*. What's up with that? Comcast's win isn't exactly a success. The FCC is an independent Federal agency that makes many of its own rules. The Bush administration's anti-government appointees effectively eviscerated the FCC by not enforcing existing rules and making new consumer-hostile rules that prevent protection of consumer privacy, truth in billing, and competition. It's possible for the FCC to rewrite its rules to return the regulations that were removed by the previous administration's appointees. In the long run, this could be a boost to 'net neutrality--if the current commissioner has the guts to do it: reinstate consumer protection, promote competition, and require Internet Neutrality. While the FCC is doing its job, enforcing consumer-friendly rules--unlike in the past administration where they didn't do much of anything and let the broadband companies write the rules--Congress can try to pass legislation to protect consumers and ensure 'net neutrality. If this doesn't happen, the United States, which was first in Internet penetration, then fourth, now twenty-second, will continue to fall behind other industrial countries in broadband penetration, speed and affordability. Let the party of NO have a real filibuster on the floor of the Senate, reading the phone book and Finnegan's Wake or whatever. Then when that one senator can't stand up and talk any more, the Senate can vote on something good for the people. How about requiring a capella singing filibusters? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.800 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2796 - Release Date: 04/07/10 02:32:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] FYI: News Alert: Court Rules Against F.C.C. in 'Net Neutrality' Case
b_s-wilk wrote: This is screaming for an update of the definition of telecommunications. With more people using VOIP and cellular services, of course telecommunications include cable services. It needs to be revised in the FCC's code. That was my point exactly, except that I would say it the other way around, that telecommunications is a subset of broadband. Back when, telecommunications was the telephone. As an end user, you weren't concerned with competing with other users (unless you were on a party lineg) I still don't understand all that net neutrality involves. Certainly, I don't think a network provider should discriminate on the sources of content i.e. selling the right to MS to give preference to Bing searches over Google (or vice versa), but I do believe that network providers could charge by volume of usage, i.e. packets per month. This assumes that broadband is not a limitless facility and that higher users should pay more. I am a bit sympathetic (but only a bit) with Comcast who built their broadband networks to provide THEIR TV programming and then have to provide everybody else's TV programming as well (Hulu, Netflix, etc), but, as you point out, they are also now trying to get into every one else's business. So I agree, that if there is to be regulation, Congress should come up with new standards and not let the FCC have to wrestle with it, especially as folks complain when it has either a liberal or conservative bias. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map
Technically Canada has a low population density when you divide its population by the size of the country. However, it is highly concentrated. Over three quarters of its population lives within 90 miles of the US border. Also see this map of the distribution. http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/10/70010-004-BBFE93FB.gif Canada needs only a 1 dimensional backbone. The US a 2 dimensional network. t.piwowar wrote: For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we have such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US? http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/03/tech/map.broadband.speeds/index.html The real reason is lack of competition and 8 years of neocon rule resulting in no national broadband policy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.800 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2787 - Release Date: 04/03/10 02:32:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
I'm sure you and many readers here know about this, but most model laptops can plug in to a docking station, so that you can easily use a larger monitor and full keyboard and mouse of choice. Also externally attached HDs. mike wrote: We bought a laptop for my wife to do her school work, the idea being to get rid of a desk in our home and make some more room. After about 8 months she just decided she wanted her desk back because while the laptop was full size (numeric keypad etc) it was just not right for lots of home use. I built her a computer for about 250 and now we use the laptop for other things. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendation for laptop computer advice sought
It seems you found the best solution for your needs. But some folks like to use the same machine, for both home use and travel. With speeds, memory sizes and HD sizes on laptops these days, they rival what desktops had just a few years ago. mike wrote: That came up in our discussion on what we would do about her laptop. The cost of just building a solid system, I already had the case/keyboard/mouse/hard drives, and getting some kind of dock was not much different. Decided on the little tower instead. On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: I'm sure you and many readers here know about this, but most model laptops can plug in to a docking station, so that you can easily use a larger monitor and full keyboard and mouse of choice. Also externally attached HDs. mike wrote: We bought a laptop for my wife to do her school work, the idea being to get rid of a desk in our home and make some more room. After about 8 months she just decided she wanted her desk back because while the laptop was full size (numeric keypad etc) it was just not right for lots of home use. I built her a computer for about 250 and now we use the laptop for other things. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2723 - Release Date: 03/05/10 02:34:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
At least in Medicare, there are quite a few costs which go into the overhead of private insurance which are not counted in Medicare. See: http://emac.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/08/26/medicare-more-efficient-than-private-insurance/ Analysis in this article demonstrates that the overhead is actually lower with private insurance than with Medicare on a per patient basis. And as for the streamlined processing of Medicare, this is not done by a government agency but contracted out by CMS to private processors, in my case here in the DC area, it's Highmark Medicare Services Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Part of it is lower overhead. It is why some charities devote over 90% to the clients instead of 60-70 % I know this is going to sound biased but Lutheran World Relief, and Bethesda (both Lutheran Charities) have very low overheads. Why? Lower staff costs. The directors of our charities have salaries that are in the low 100's. No million $ salaries for our guys. So with their salaries being lower the staff salaries will be lower on comparison. Plus streamlined processing of everything. A governmental insurance agency is not about pleasing its investors, it is not about looking good. (Costs of buildings is one huge difference.) In church terms it is called stewardship of monies. They have to be better stewards as the price for not being so, is much higher. Stewart At 03:36 PM 3/2/2010, you wrote: I suspect that the government overhead is not properly counted, e.g. the real estate occupied by the program administrators, etc. If it really is only 3%, no wonder government health care is so bad. What is there about government administration that is so marvelous that the private sector can't do? Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2718 - Release Date: 03/02/10 02:34:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
Could you please be specific in what is wrong with the analysis in this article. And, yes, my view of the world comes from Fox News, along with CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, the New York Times, the Washington Post among others. I don't see how you can live on this planet and not pay attention to the arguments on both sides of important issues. This article seems to make sense to me; please convince me where I go wrong, and I'll change my opinion. tjpa wrote: On Mar 2, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: http://emac.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/08/26/medicare-more-efficient-than-private-insurance/ If your view of the world comes from Fox News you are not living on this planet. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2719 - Release Date: 03/02/10 14:34:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Evil people [Was: Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability]
I know the name of the channel is Fox News, but there are two distinct components. Commentary and news. Commentary includes the very conservative Hannity, the populist O'Reilly, the libertarian Beck, and the running-for-president Huckabee. I don't live on their planet. News, for me, consists of Fox News Sunday hosted by Chris Wallace (a Democrat), who bars no holds whether interviewing the right or the left, and Special Report with Bret Baier with straight news and a panel discussion with analysts from the right (Krouthammer), left (Juan Williams) and middle (Mara Liaason). I think both shows do a good job of covering all sides of major issues. But then, YMMV. (And, yes, much of their daytime shows are tabloid hoohah with car chases and Amber alerts, but I don't consider this news) And, before you say it, I've heard those on the left say they hate Fox because they believe the American people are too stupid to understand the difference between commentary and news. tjpa wrote: On Mar 2, 2010, at 8:34 PM, mike wrote: I don't see how you can live on this planet and not pay attention to the arguments on both sides of important issues. Fox reports the news of a different planet. I don't live there. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2719 - Release Date: 03/02/10 14:34:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] popoz...@earthlink.net has shared: Apple iPad's Tiny SIM Is Just There to Mess With You
On Feb 11, 2010, at 1:16 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I should have said, Never RUSH OUT and buy version 1.0 of anything. Many of us are quite happily running Windows 7 V1.0. Of course, many will say this is Windows Vista V3.0 :-) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google: Damned if you do; damned if you don't
There is a simple answer to this. The software should have a preference setting. One for, ask me: did you really mean to say the f word? One for, I'm a foul mouth, don't ask. John Duncan Yoyo wrote: One of the iPhone aps does the same thing. I think it is Dragon Naturally speaking. I would guess that Google Voice auto bowdlerizes as well.. On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Weird. We recently turned off the cuss filter on our forum, only to have one of our *moderators* begin to cuss like crazy. :( On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 3:44 PM, tjp t...@tjpa.com wrote: An interesting dilemma... How Google's Nexus One censors cuss words (and why) http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10440115-71.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2641 - Release Date: 01/23/10 14:33:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] STRANGE VIRUS?
I'll second that. I just bought a new HP and it came already maxed out on memory. The MB could ONLY accomodate 8GB and memory is so cheap, that's what came with the machine. Hope it will be enough for a few yearsg. Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: More and more machines are coming with lots of RAM. It is a sign that RAM has become less expensive. Same with HD's. My wife's laptop came with a 250 GB drive in it. Also 2 GB RAM. Last Laptop I bought came with 3 GB ram. (not a net book) Stewart At 06:57 PM 12/22/2009, you wrote: Most computers, when sold as new, can use additional RAM in order to function in a manner that will not, at times, disappoint. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.722 / Virus Database: 270.14.117/2582 - Release Date: 12/22/09 13:22:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google free DNS
Every new president inherits policies with which he disagrees, especially when it is a party change. W complained about inheriting a recession which started in the latter year of the Clinton admin. W also inherited a national security structure which was inadequate to prevent 9/1, but didn't whine about it. Obama has been gungho about the war in Afghanistan since 2003 or 4. Remember, it was the good war and Iraq the bad. (As an aside, it is humorous that he has embraced the Bush surge doctrine). At this late date in his 11 months in office, it is getting a bit tiresome to hear every Obama speech start with Bush bashing. He should man up and deal with the state of the world and country as it is now and how he will remedy it. Enough with the excuses and whining! John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:38 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Funny how it was credible when they were blasting Bush...but then when he does things it's bad...obama good...bush bad.. The problem is Obama got stuck with a bunch of bad Bush policy and has to figure out how to unravel the mess without leaving things for the worst. I don't think there was much of a choice in Afaganistan we broke it, we ignored it, we should put it on the path to correcting it. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.103/2558 - Release Date: 12/11/09 05:06:00 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]
A good test of machine translation is to translate and then translate back to the original language. This can also be highly amusing. Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Betty translation sites lack the human factor. I recently did a English to German translation for a prayer. The result was acceptable but not great. I also had my mother translate it for me. They were different. One of things that the translation cannot do it substitute idiom and phrasing for things like this. It may be an exact translation, but it does not sound right to the person of that language as they would not say it correctly. Example. English - Shut the window please. German - Bitte schleissen dem fenster. That is a correct translation however a German would never say it that way. Correct German translation - Macht die fenster zu bitte. Make the window too please! Sounds awful in English but it is a proper translation again. All languages have their idiomatic phrases that are part of learning that language and makes you speak more like a native. Stewart At 10:48 PM 12/6/2009, you wrote: I had a guest from Thailand staying with us last week. Her English is very good, but there are many words she doesn't know. I asked her if she wanted pistachio ice cream for dessert. Then I went to Google's language tools and translated it into Thai and showed it to her. She laughed. It was pistachio spelled phonetically using the Thai alphabet. We looked for a photograph that she recognized, the she told me that in Thai [translated again] it's called a smiling nut. I can forgive its mistakes in Thai, but it really should translate Spanish -- English better than it does. Surprisingly the Greek -- English is better. It's also handy in translating Russian, since I don't have the alphabet memorized well enough to use a dictionary. Betty Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions]
I said nothing about English being one of the languages. chad evans wyatt wrote: Amusing for you, perhaps, but essential cross-cultural understanding for me, Steve. Sometimes, our US-centric orientation is unseemly. --- On Mon, 12/7/09, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.net wrote: From: Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Google Language Tools [was: Server restrictions] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 12:27 PM A good test of machine translation is to translate and then translate back to the original language. This can also be highly amusing. Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Betty translation sites lack the human factor. I recently did a English to German translation for a prayer. The result was acceptable but not great. I also had my mother translate it for me. They were different. One of things that the translation cannot do it substitute idiom and phrasing for things like this. It may be an exact translation, but it does not sound right to the person of that language as they would not say it correctly. Example. English - Shut the window please. German - Bitte schleissen dem fenster. That is a correct translation however a German would never say it that way. Correct German translation - Macht die fenster zu bitte. Make the window too please! Sounds awful in English but it is a proper translation again. All languages have their idiomatic phrases that are part of learning that language and makes you speak more like a native. Stewart At 10:48 PM 12/6/2009, you wrote: I had a guest from Thailand staying with us last week. Her English is very good, but there are many words she doesn't know. I asked her if she wanted pistachio ice cream for dessert. Then I went to Google's language tools and translated it into Thai and showed it to her. She laughed. It was pistachio spelled phonetically using the Thai alphabet. We looked for a photograph that she recognized, the she told me that in Thai [translated again] it's called a smiling nut. I can forgive its mistakes in Thai, but it really should translate Spanish -- English better than it does. Surprisingly the Greek -- English is better. It's also handy in translating Russian, since I don't have the alphabet memorized well enough to use a dictionary. Betty Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] google web crawlers and the WSJ
Not any longer. GE sold majority interest to Comcast this week. See: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Comcast-to-buy-controlling-apf-1002116126.html?x=0sec=topStoriespos=3asset=ccode= phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Now, is General Electric, the corporate giant and massive military/industrial complex holding company a bastion of liberalism? Of course not. So, what does that make the TV network that they own and control? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gulag?
As some wag put it, they are not called the Ten Suggestions. tjpa wrote: On Nov 27, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I also stated that business should be run in as ethically as possible. Do you consider that ethical? Definitely not. The as possible is a cop out. It is like preaching the Ten Commandments as optional as convenient. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Dead desktop computer -- what is likely the matter?
Don't know how long ago she got the HP, but I just purchased one and there is an HP provided utility to burn a 3 DVD set which will restore the machine to its factory settings; i.e. the OS and the other junkware programs. I know Lenovo does the same thing; no disks with the purchased machine, but a utility to create the reinstall disks. See if you can find such a utility on your HP. Robert Carroll wrote: I'm thinking that the only way to fix her computer is to reformat reinstall OS. But since HP didn't include a Windows XP disk when purchasing her computer, I will have to offer one of mine to her. Is there a copyright issue here? Some of my Windows OS disks were bought for computers that I once had but are discarded now so that the same disk OS would be installed on only one computer at the same time. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Who Writes These Headlines?
While we are griping here, let me add the gripe of lack of or poor punctuation. A comma after Chimp would have fully clarified the headline. phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, please. He said it has the same legal status AS a religion (or a philosophy). He didn't say that it IS a religion (or a philosophy). Someone tell me this wasn't intentional. I saw a headline yesterday on an online news source that linked to a video. The headline was, and I quote, Woman Attacked by Chimp on Oprah Show. Wow, I said to myself, That is terrible. This I gotta see. So, I go to the video. Is a woman attacked on the Oprah Show by a chimpanzee? No, not at all. The woman on the show was the victim of an attack that had taken place quite some time ago in another location altogether. Was that headline misleading? Certainly/ Intentionally? Maybe, maybe not. It was probably just a matter of incompetent composition skills, written by someone who should not be in the business of doing what they are doing. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Done Good
You misstate the position of the USCC. They DO recognize global warming and the need for strong federal and international legislation to combat it. However, they are against unilateral action and the Waxman Markey bill. http://www.uschamber.com/press/releases/2009/september/090929climate.htm Chris Dunford wrote: Apple has resigned its membership in the US Chamber of Commerce in protest over the USCC's refusal to accept the science of global warming. Apple joins GE, PGE, Exelon (the US's largest gas electric utility) and others in resigning. Nike has resigned from the USCC board but retains its membership. Apple's letter to the USCC: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/business/apple-chamber.pdf Coverage: http://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/apple-resignes-from-chamber-over-climate/ http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/05/apple-quits-chamber/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
I was replying to the complaints about how horrible flying was today and how much better it was when it used to be federally regulated. I was just pointing out who did the deregulation. t.piwowar wrote: On Sep 11, 2009, at 12:50 AM, Steve at Verizon wrote: If you are referring to the deregulation of the airline industry, the wingnuts who did it were Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Congress. See the 1978 Airline Deregulation Act. Are we talking policy or are you starting a Jimmy Carter fan club here? It is impossible to keep you on topic and making a logical progression from one fact to the next. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
t.piwowar wrote: On Sep 11, 2009, at 12:56 AM, Steve at Verizon wrote: An 11.4 Trillion National Debt represents government living wayy beyond its means. Nonesense. What are you comparing that number to? Your pay check? Properly you look at it as percent of GDP. A proper analysis is here: http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/National-Debt-GDP-L.gif This was the Bush party line when he grew the National Debt. The chart shows that the national Debt was MUCH higher in the 40s and 50s. You should also note that the USA survived the 40s and 50s just fine. The problem with the huge national debt is that it will soon become the largest item in the federal budget. That was not the case back in the 40s and 50s. http://www.federalbudget.com/ I agree with you that the previous administration ( which included 2 years of a Democratic Congress) was fiscally irresponsible and ran up the National Debt. I condemn that profligate spending. But the party fully in charge now has quadrupled the budget deficits which will drive up the National Debt unless they enact massive tax increases. This chart also shows that the run up in the National Debt was inherited by the current administration and that they have increased it by just a tiny amount. When you consider what a mess they are up against that increase is perfectly reasonable. The alternative would be far worse. The best way to pay down the debt is to get the economy going again. Again, the was the Bush mantra for his excessive spending. Note that Clinton did precisely that. Don't forget that Clinton had a Republican Congress to somewhat restrain growth in spending (before they went hogwild with Bush). And most of the gusher of revenue during the short surplus period was due to capital gains from the skyrocketing stock market whose underlying values were phony. Remember the tech bubble and Enron? You just do not have your facts straight and your analysis is piss poor. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Actually, I am a liberal concerning airline deregulation. It opened inexpensive air travel to the masses. Competition brought us Peoples Express (remember them?) and then SW and Jet Blue. Granted, flying in coach today is much like taking the bus as far as amenities. I remember flying before 1978. A round trip to the coast was over $1000, and that was in 1970s dollars. And it was for the elite and businessmen primarily. Today you can go to the coast with Jet Blue for $500. I will grant you that some regulations may be needed to solve the horrors of 8 hour waits on the runway. Jeff Miles wrote: I don't question who did it. While I sound like a liberal most of the time, I blame the democrats as much as the conservatives most of the time. Stupid ideas see no political bias. Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Sep 10, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: If you are referring to the deregulation of the airline industry, the wingnuts who did it were Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Congress. See the 1978 Airline Deregulation Act. t.piwowar wrote: On Sep 9, 2009, at 2:28 AM, Jeff Miles wrote: You obviously don't pay any attention. Flying 20 years ago was as affordable as it is today. Very true,except that today we have more information about fares. You only get less for your $ today. Today they can abuse their customers with impunity. They can leave you sitting in a plane with overflowing toilets for 12 hours and laugh about it. Back when I was a kid I recall calling the NY office of the CAB several times about abusive airline practices. I still smile as I recall they guys there with their thick Brooklyn accents giving me tactical advice and regulations to cite. It was magical. When I would get to the airline counter and they would try to screw me once again I would mutter a few rule numbers and screw you became yes sir, we can book you with another airline and we'll pay the difference. Those were the days. Then the wingnuts wrecked the government and now tell us how ineffective it is. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 10 Sep 2009 - Special issue (#2009-870)
t.piwowar wrote: On Sep 10, 2009, at 7:21 PM, Jeff Morris wrote: Obama claims that nationalizing health care will create jobs. The only jobs that will be created are government jobs. On Sep 10, 2009, at 7:21 PM, Jeff Morris wrote: Government produces no wealth and adds absolutely nothing to the gross national product. On Sep 10, 2009, at 7:21 PM, Jeff Morris wrote: Obama claims that nationalizing health care will reduce the deficit. It's a lie, plain and simple. On Sep 10, 2009, at 7:21 PM, Jeff Morris wrote: He can't be that stupid to think increasing the national debt by 9 trillion dollars reduces the debt, the deficit or will balance the budget. We have a segment of our population who must never have studied math...those numbers don't add up. But this is White House projections!!! See: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090825/bs_nm/us_obama_budget You jump from one outrageous lie to another. None of the above is true or makes any sense. And you pile it on deeper and deeper. Is this the tactic of the Big Lie? Do you think you can just tire us out by shoveling more and more manure onto the pile? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
If you are referring to the deregulation of the airline industry, the wingnuts who did it were Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Congress. See the 1978 Airline Deregulation Act. t.piwowar wrote: On Sep 9, 2009, at 2:28 AM, Jeff Miles wrote: You obviously don't pay any attention. Flying 20 years ago was as affordable as it is today. Very true,except that today we have more information about fares. You only get less for your $ today. Today they can abuse their customers with impunity. They can leave you sitting in a plane with overflowing toilets for 12 hours and laugh about it. Back when I was a kid I recall calling the NY office of the CAB several times about abusive airline practices. I still smile as I recall they guys there with their thick Brooklyn accents giving me tactical advice and regulations to cite. It was magical. When I would get to the airline counter and they would try to screw me once again I would mutter a few rule numbers and screw you became yes sir, we can book you with another airline and we'll pay the difference. Those were the days. Then the wingnuts wrecked the government and now tell us how ineffective it is. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
No one could compete with Freddy and Fanny because they had the implied (turns out real) backing of the US Treasury and they could borrow at rates lower than other financial institutions. That's how they made those gobs of money (before the fun ran out). And Franklin Raines made his 90 mil during the same years that Fanny Mae couldn't produce a yearly financial report. In order to say you have a competition, then you have to have winners and losers. Do you really think that if a public option were set up to compete, that it would have a chance in hell of losing. t.piwowar wrote: On Sep 9, 2009, at 1:06 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: You can't compete with the govt. Choice with the state is a bug, not a feature. This has no basis in fact. You just keep chanting that wingnut mantra. Keep your eyes shut real tight while you do. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Profit, no, but break even has a certain appeal. An 11.4 Trillion National Debt represents government living wayy beyond its means. t.piwowar wrote: On Sep 9, 2009, at 7:41 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: How about if they break even? That would be a hoot. What does that mean? You could try to make sense from time to time. That would really be a hoot. Profit and break even are not useful concepts for thinking about how governments work. Any discussion built around those concepts will be illogical. you wast our time. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Insurance and National Security [was: Intensive care unit]
John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 7:59 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Government is nothing but a bunch of crooks. And while some people want to defend these crooks when they do have a vested interest is totally beyond me. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote: Exactly. Insurance companies are nothing but a bunch of crooks. And while some people want to defend these crooks when they have no vested interest is totally beyond me. The difference is I at least have the option of firing some of the government crooks. The corporate crooks just need to be first against the wall when the revolution comes. But you can only fire the CEO every 4 years. The CEO can do a heap of damage in that time. But if you are unhappy with Allstate, you can take your business to Geico any time you want. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Insurance and National Security [was: Intensive care unit]
So you are in favor of nationalizing, not just the health insurance companies, but also life insurance and automobile insurance? Your logic would apply to them as well. Or if not nationalize, make them provide the same coverage to everybody for the same cost. For life insurance you should pay the same premium if you are 24 or 64, smoke or not smoke, have a preexisting condition (i.e. Stage 4 cancer). And your auto insurance should be the same, independent of your age (Boy would I have liked that when I was 21!) or driving record. phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Jeff Milesjmile...@charter.net wrote: Exactly. Insurance companies are nothing but a bunch of crooks. And while some people want to defend these crooks when they have no vested interest is totally beyond me. Of course, an awful lot of those opposed to change do, in fact, have vested interests in insurance companies. I think that is the big elephant in the room that does not want to get talked about. Many folks make a lot of money when insurance companies carry on exactly as Obama described tonight. To tighten up on them would decrease the profitability for stockholders. Additionally, insurance companies provide the underwriting for many big construction projects such as hotels, shopping centers, urban renewal projects, etc. Money tied up in those projects wants to see that insurance companies remain quite profitable. They do not care how much those who are insured get ripped off as long as the profitability of the insurance companies remains high. I need not even mention how much money our politicians get from insurance companies. As always, to find the answer, just follow the money. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Then why are Cuban doctors fleeing to the US? See this article from the NYT. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/health/04cuba.html?_r=1partner=rssemc=rsspagewanted=all phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Fred Holmesf...@his.com wrote: If you drive the drug companies out of business, then the government will have to manufacture current drugs and develop new ones. Will they do a better job of it? Unlikely! For what it is worth, Cuba has one of the best, if not the overall best health care system in the world. Check out the world's health statistics and see for yourself. Marcio can speak to this issue I am sure. Cuba is one poor as hell nation, and the Cuban health care system is government run, yet is at the top of the A list worldwide. Socialist? Yes. Works extremely well overall? Yes. Far lower child death rate than here in the United States? By far. All citizens get health care? Absolutely. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
My point is that for Cubans, they pay a very high price for their free medical care, and that is a totalitarian government, human rights abuse, no free press, jails full of political prisoners, required listening to 5 hour speeches by Fidel (before his illness). And even their mass production of doctors is not purely a humanitarian gesture; they are used as an export commodity. Witness the 100s of doctors sent to Venezuela in exchange for her oil. We are in agreement that many of the most talented, be they pitchers or doctors or architects (my sister's galfriend's ex-Cuban husband) prefer to be compensated accordingly. Thank god that there are some altruistic physicians (worldwide, not just Cuba), who forgo high salaries for religious or political reasons to support their communities, as they are needed there, but this should be a choice of the individual not the state. phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Steve at Verizonstevet...@verizon.net wrote: Then why are Cuban doctors fleeing to the US? See this article from the NYT. For the money, primarily. Also, for a higher overall standard of living or because they do not support the government there or they have relatives inthe U.S. Cuba has some of the best baseball teams and players as well, but just because they are some of the best does not mean that they will not try to leave for the United States where they can make a lot of money and live far higher on the hog, so to speak. Please do not attempt to make the case that because some Cuban doctors want to leave that island that it somehow implies that the Cuban medical system is some giant dysfunctional mess and a failure. Wealthy Americans routinely seek to move their assets offshore, out of the country, but that does not mean that the financial system of the United States is some abysmal failure. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
And the ones who will choose choice will be the employers, dumping their health care, and then you, the employee, will have only one choice, the public option. That is what is happening in Massachusetts; the employers would rather pay the penalty for not providing health insurance. And, as I pointed out earlier, the more folks are government insured, the surge in baby boom Medicare, as well as a large public option, the less provider reimbursement will come from private insurers which compensate for the losses from government reimbursement. And, of course, private insurers can't compete with a government run public plan. A private business cannot operate at a loss, the way a government subsidized entity can (like the USPS and Amtrak). Marcio wrote: Whjy are you afraid of a choice between the private insurers and a government program? I said: choice. Marcio -Original Message- From: Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 7, 2009 3:49 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit... This is one subspecialty that is also elective surgery. Now say the same thing about cardiac stints, hernia surgery etc. Yes, I understand that. It's one of the better analogs for demonstrating that the medical industry can deliver quality care with cost awareness. Why wouldn't it work for cardiac stents, hernias, tonsils, etc? It wouldn't work very well for time-sensitive/emergency care or for critical care situations such as cancer treatment, but there is a world of medicine where price can and should matter. We can reform health care the smart way, as proposed by Mackey and illustrated in the article you linked with truly innovative ideas, or the dumb way, with price controls, massive budget deficits and a very high probability of rationing with nowhere else to turn. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: You must have government mandate minimums. If they do not many companies will try and fly through with a bunch of worthless insurance. Herein lies the major problem. What constitutes 'minimum' coverage? Yearly physicals (not part of Medicare), cosmetic surgery, sex change operations, flu shots, abortion, therapeutic massage, dental, psychiatric, optometric, etc. You can be sure that what is in or out will be decided politically or by which interest lobbies have the most clout. As Stewart points out, these are all decided at the state level now, so if we get a national minimum, it will be a maximum of everything in every state (wouldn't want some to lose a benefit). Second problem is the loss of the current ability to chose among plans with high, medium, and low deductibility. Obamacare cannot allow these options, otherwise a healthy 24 year old would choose a high deductibility at a very low premium, insuring himself only for catastrophic expenses. Obamacare needs large premiums from the young and healthy to pay to insure the currently uninsured. If insurance companies are not allowed to have different pools of procedures covered and different pools of the insured based on their risk, and different deductible levels, then we have lost the meaning of the word insurance. What we are left with is a method of paying for health care independent of any risk or need, much the way Social Security works. (And I am sure several of you out there would like to One last observation; I find it quite cynical of Speaker Pelosi to attack the health insurers. She must know that the only reason Medicare works (such as it does, and before it goes bankrupt), is that the private health insurers reimburse providers at a higher rate than Medicare. The only reason hospitals, and some doctors accept Medicare patients is because they make up from privately insured patients for their Medicare losses. Since the bills in Congress so far, plan to lower even further provider reimbursements for Medicare, she cannot afford to lose privately insured to a public option, as this would squeeze provider reimbursements even further. (Will doctors be allowed to refuse public option patients the way they can refuse Medicare patients?) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Intensive Care Unit...
And vice versa. The USPS uses FedEx and UPS to bulk ship US Mail via their planes and trucks to other USPS facilities for mailbox delivery. This has nothing to do with public option. It is called subcontracting. This two way subcontracting already exists in health insurance. Medicare subcontracts administration to private companies. Mine is CMS. Large corporations do the reverse. They self-insure (assume the risk, set the policies) and contract health insurers strictly to administer their programs (health insurers have no gains or losses from the totality of employee claims). b_s-wilk wrote: FedEx and UPS have been using the US Postal Service for final delivery of many of their packages. This is private carriers using the _public option_ to save money. They ship long distance on their planes or trucks to the local or regional post office. Then the postal carriers deliver packages to the final destinations--residential or business. Works for the private companies and the P.O., and keeps the delivery prices lower when the vendors are honest about the SH charges. I believe by law that the USPS is required to deliver mail to any residence or business no matter where they are located within the US and it's territories. I know of no other country where the mail service is run by private contractors? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Not every cloud has a silver lining
In general, I agree. But I also fondly remember being alone with a System 360 Mod 40 on third shift. Now THAT was a personal computer! t.piwowar wrote: On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:42 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: The tech press is full of people who want to tell you how completely awesome life is going to be when everything moves to the cloud – that is, when all your important storage, processing and other needs are handled by vast, professionally managed data-centres. I used to do all my computing at a data center, 40 years ago. I remember being liberated. I don't want to go back to those days. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Turbo Tax help
I don't think you can blame a tax program for not catching Daschle's tax evasion. Could you expect a program to ask Were you loaned a limousine and driver for free? I don't think you could expect a tax accountant to present a series of questions including that one. As a high ranking member of the Senate for decades, he should have known what political favors should be reported as income. Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote: I am sure you recall that both Geithner and Daschle had tax problems and each used a different tax program. Each program had its own failures. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Turbo Tax help
I agree with you that tax programs are best for those filers who have relatively simple returns (as I do). I'm very surprised that a high profile individual who worked in an environment where there are tricky issues regarding what constitutes income, would use a tax program rather than a tax accountant. I think your last line is negated by the fact that ignorance of the law is no protection from breaking it. Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote: I really don't want to get too deeply into it- however-- it is well know what errors (i.e., questions NOT asked) exist for both Tax Cut and TurboTax. One could (theoretically?) choose the proper program to prepare one's taxes and then blame the error on the questions NOT asked by the program. Eschew Obfuscation This is a reply from: Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial Organization 703.548.1343 voice 703.783.1340 fax From thinking to doing, from sales to profits, from tax to investments- we are YOUR adjuvancy -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Steve at Verizon Sent: 08/10/2009 9:12 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Turbo Tax help I don't think you can blame a tax program for not catching Daschle's tax evasion. Could you expect a program to ask Were you loaned a limousine and driver for free? I don't think you could expect a tax accountant to present a series of questions including that one. As a high ranking member of the Senate for decades, he should have known what political favors should be reported as income. Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote: I am sure you recall that both Geithner and Daschle had tax problems and each used a different tax program. Each program had its own failures. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars
Like the children of Lake Wobegon. Chris Dunford wrote: And how do you know that 90% of drivers AREN'T above average? Math. Joke. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars
This thread reminds me of the story I got from a Volvo salesman. I had had several over the years and was looking for a new one in the late 1980's. Volvo was one of the last makes to not have coffee cup holders. The excuse I got from the salesman was that their Swedish engineers were adamant that it was too dangerous to simultaneously drive and drink hot coffee, hence no cup holders. Sue Cubic wrote: It seems to me that any gadgets that are not directly involved with _driving_ should not be allowed to be used by drivers. How much simpler can it get? Program your GPS before you leave! Haul anything you want in the back seat. Allow back seat passengers to do whatever they want. But keep them out of the front seat. CERTAINLY keep them from being installed. JMHO, Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Healthcare
This non-radical right Obama disagreer agrees with you. For those of you not aware of Godwin's Law, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Part of the entry states: For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debate was in progress. Jordan wrote: Andy Gallant wrote: I strongly object to paragraphs five and seven of your posting, and in particular, to your use of highly objectionable terms and comparisons. Radical right Obama hate media can't resist such disgusting crap. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Healthcare
For one who constantly rails against the MS monopoly, I am surprised that you advocate a monopoly on the buying side of health care (and a government monopoly at that). TPiwowar wrote: On Jul 26, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: Absolutely wrong. There must always be choices. The customer must always have somewhere else to go when the service he is currently receiving is unsatisfactory. Single payer is tyranny. Single-payer systems typically include the opportunity for paying for care privately. Single-payer does not mean single provider. Why do the cons/neocons keep dragging in irrelevant boogeymen? It does not help the discussion. When I broke my eyeglasses in London, even though I was an American, I was offered National Health glasses or I could get a swanky pair. I had the means to get a swanky pair so I did. I was also grateful to have the choice of a pair for almost nothing should I have been in poorer financial circumstances. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Healthcare
I didn't say the government is a monopoly; I said that a single-payer is a monopoly. Actually there is a new term for a buyer monopoly and that is a monopsony. The federal government can and has exerted monopoly powers. Armies and delivery of First Class Mail are two examples. Single-payer would be another, and, from your response, one of which you approve. And lest you continue quibbling about the word monopoly, the effect would be the same. A seller monopolist says You can't buy my product from anyone else, so here is my price, take it or leave it. A buyer monopolist says You can't sell your product to anyone else, so here is my offer, take it or leave it. In fact, this latter feature of single-payer is a major method of controlling health costs. The question is if the government can hit the sweet spot on the prices they set; low enough to save money, but not so low as to drive providers out of business. I'm in the camp that multiple sellers and buyers in a market is the best way to determine prices. TPiwowar wrote: On Jul 28, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Steve at Verizon wrote: For one who constantly rails against the MS monopoly, I am surprised that you advocate a monopoly on the buying side of health care (and a government monopoly at that). The government is not a monopoly. The government is the American people acting in concert for the common good. What have you got against Americans? What have you got against good? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes problem
I use my iPods almost exclusively for audiobooks. My method for ensuring proper sequencing is: In iTunes preferences, for the When insert CD option, I chose Show CD (instead of start importing). Then if the CDDB database doesn't have the tracks and/or disks differentiated, I select all and, with Get Info, name the album, Book Name nn, author as the artist, and, Books and Spoken as Genre. Then hit the Import CD button. Each track can now have the track nn name, but be grouped in CD order. When you make your playlist, the albums will be in CD order under the author (block select, drag and drop to playlist). Also, if more than 9 CDs, be sure to number, 01, 02, etc, so that you don't have 10, 11, etc, between 1 and 2. Jordan wrote: I have loaded books on CDs into iTunes. Many of them have dozens or even a hundred tracks on each CD, and a book might be 10 or 15 CDs long. These audio files typically have a name like Track 1, Track 2, and so on, there are no differentiating titles, up to 25 or 99. So when I first loaded up a book I'd have 15 tracks called track 1, and 15 called track 2 and so on, and I quickly discovered that iTunes could get confused about the order of these apparently identical files. It becomes a long and convoluted story, but you get the picture that if iTunes can't order these files by time added, you'd have little chance of understanding the book. And I'm not even going to get into what iTunes does to the organizing of these file if you look for them in Finder. In case anyone finds this interesting, I've since learned that you can load a CD into iTunes and then make a single bookmarkable file of the whole disk, or disc. When you are loading the disc, select Advanced/Join CD Tracks. I hope this makes sense. mike wrote: Just wondering, why do you want to know added and mod dates? I've never shown either of these columns in itunes, but today I did. Date added of course is the date added to itunes..but date mod is the date my system modified the file, not itunes. Seems odd. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] STOP THE PEE TAX - was Batch downloading of bank check images
This here con supports that slogan. Have you seen that the State of Virginia wants to close its highway rest stops and offload the maintenance of rest rooms on McDonalds and other businesses along its highways. Why should a private business need to support a tour bus stopping for all to pee without anyone buying anything? I'd call that a tax on business. I guess, as a free market con, I should support pay toilets instead, but this is one service I think the government should provide. t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 16, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: Why would we object? We might not use the restroom in the merchant's establishment, but the cost for it is folded into the merchants cost of doing business and thus reflected in the price. Not every minor cost should be itemized or made a la carte. Great slogan for the cons/neocons: STOP THE PEE TAX -- nobody gets to pee. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] online bill paying when you're dead
My wife and I both use Firefox and know how to access Saved Passwords in the Security tab of Options. Also handy when you revisit a site whose pw you have forgotten. Tony B wrote: I think a much better solution would be to get them their own accounts. Writing down and sharing a password is a serious security breach. Besides, are you really going to remember to do that every time you change your password? On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Rich Schinnellrichnrockvi...@gmail.com wrote: Remember: If you are the computer person in your household and your significant other is not a computer person, please write down all your userids and passwords so that they can access what they need regarding your financial matters on the Internet if you should become deceased. Banks and other financial institutions will not allow them access to your accounts if you end up deceased, that has happened lots of times. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] online bill paying when you're dead
MozBackup to thumb drives and other external HD. mike wrote: And just where is this info backed up in case your computer gets hit by a blimp? On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: My wife and I both use Firefox and know how to access Saved Passwords in the Security tab of Options. Also handy when you revisit a site whose pw you have forgotten. Tony B wrote: I think a much better solution would be to get them their own accounts. Writing down and sharing a password is a serious security breach. Besides, are you really going to remember to do that every time you change your password? On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Rich Schinnellrichnrockvi...@gmail.com wrote: Remember: If you are the computer person in your household and your significant other is not a computer person, please write down all your userids and passwords so that they can access what they need regarding your financial matters on the Internet if you should become deceased. Banks and other financial institutions will not allow them access to your accounts if you end up deceased, that has happened lots of times. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Batch downloading of bank check images
Good one, Tom! t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 16, 2009, at 4:50 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I use cash whenever possible. No trail. I don't shop at *those* kinds of stores. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] STOP THE PEE TAX - was Batch downloading of bank check images
Moot point for us cons. With our loss of exec and legislative branches, the Dems could finally get their SCHIP program through and now the sick children are safe from the wrath of con. t.piwowar wrote: On Jul 16, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote: I guess, as a free market con, I should support pay toilets instead, but this is one service I think the government should provide. That's getting mighty close to Socialism. You probably don't want to go there. That gets you on the slippery slope from there to helping sick children. Perish the thought. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] I Got 9
There's a lot of this going on these days, and not just at the Fed level. Many states are selling the rights to the future income from the tobacco settlement and from their toll road tolls. And it's not ideology, just shortsighted desire by both parties for revenue to spend . t.piwowar wrote: On Jun 20, 2009, at 10:46 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: But the FCC already has sold off the bandwidth. I don't understand why they don't lease this sort of thing rather than sell it off wholesale. It should be continuing revenue not a one time thing. Political ideology. Once you sell off a public asset it is hard to get it back. Recall that RR had a plan to sell off weather forecasting. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendations for good iPod to Itunes (reverse) copy
Thank you Tom. However, I committed the unpardonable sin of omitting my OS. Am looking for a Windows app. t.piwowar wrote: On Jun 21, 2009, at 12:34 AM, Steve at Verizon wrote: Sounds pretty good. However, I just want to copy tracks manually, not sync. Does it handle that? I use iPodDisk.app for that. Free. The iPod appears on the desktop as a disk image with folders as you would expect. www.nabble.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Recommendations for good iPod to Itunes (reverse) copy
I understand why Apple didn't put this feature in iTunes, but there appear to be many apps out there which do this. Can anyone recommend a good reliable app; willing to pay for it if it is good. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Recommendations for good iPod to Itunes (reverse) copy
Sounds pretty good. However, I just want to copy tracks manually, not sync. Does it handle that? John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: I understand why Apple didn't put this feature in iTunes, but there appear to be many apps out there which do this. Can anyone recommend a good reliable app; willing to pay for it if it is good. I have Tune Ranger which works on both Mac and PC. You can buy a mixed license package with 2 Mac and 2 PC, or a pure 5 license package for either. Lists for just under $30 and you can download a free trial. http://www.acertant.com/web/tuneranger/ I'm about 85% satisfied with what it does. But the Sync off the iPod to the PC isn't one of the spots that I quibble with. It isn't selective enough when it searches for dupes. Tracks which share the same name but are part of a larger whole get selected as the same thing when searching for duplicates. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] DTV debacle
Just a reminder that you may have to run the scan for all channels several times. Did so yesterday, but then lost some and had to run again today. Seems the broadcasters a shifting frequencies at different times. (And relocating from where they were originally.) betty wrote: It *was* broke, now it's fixed. For a while, anyway. You wouldn't really consider driving a 1940 model car today, would you? Your 'fire' analogy is a really bad one because DTV is a set of standards, not a universal chemical process. Nobody around here can get all the channels they had with analog. None of my friends have more than one or two channels even friends who live much closer to the broadcast towers. In case you haven't noticed, fire still works. Our TVs don't. Even friends with digital TVs--we have two--get few channels even with new antennae. I'm so excite!! I got ONE secondary digital channel today!! And NOTHING else. Sure looks like the people who did the survey found an area with good reception and asked those folks. The hell with the rest of us who have almost nothing now. Of course the National Association of Broadcasters would say good things about DTV. DUH. 'Fire' adheres to the 'standards' set forth in the laws of Thermodynamics. DTV standards aren't sufficient to provide over-the-air broadcasting, except where the NAB does their limited polling. Your idea of broken is bizarre, considering the replacement is much worse, and the excess bandwidth is being sold instead of leased, denying taxpayers revenue that our gummint needs, and has received before the sales. Bad standards, bad implementation. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Does it Right
I've mentioned earlier here, that I put the Win 7 beta on my 3 year old Lenovo laptop back in Jan, and the RC when it came out, and it runs fabulously; even better than with XP3. I did invest $11 at Microcenter to take it to 2G. Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Win 7 actually will run on many XP computers out of the box. It does not have the bloat requirement that Vista does. One of the better features of 7. Stewart At 06:50 AM 6/11/2009, you wrote: Vista-Ready New computer + cost of Vista + (oops!) new computer (that can actually run Vista and all of its marvels). WFBonomics, I suppose. Thank you, Mark Snyder Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting
I still have a real IBM 360 'Green Card circa 1969 in my collection. Anyone remember those? Eric S. Sande wrote: I used to carry a half dozen reference cards, most of what I needed was there. Now 30 years later I still pull out one of those cards about once a year. I can relate to that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. Not so. I have books read to me, sometimes by the author. I read a book only when it is not available in an unabridged audiobook format. Most are ripped from CD audiobooks in our county library but I sometimes buy from Audible. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting
Somewhat the same here. Audiobooks are great when spending an otherwise boring 45 minutes on a treadmill. Or that 5 hour drive to NY. I also enjoy a half hour listen after turning out the lights in bed. Like being read to as a kid. Didn't mean to sound like an audiobook fanatic. I fully understand other folks joy in a physical book. mike wrote: I listen to audiobooks all the time, but always in situations where books wouldn't do well. At work at times, in the car a lot...they are fantastic for long commutes. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Vicky Staubly vi...@steeds.com wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve at Verizon wrote: Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. Not so. I have books read to me, sometimes by the author. I read a book only when it is not available in an unabridged audiobook format. Most are ripped from CD audiobooks in our county library but I sometimes buy from Audible. I don't think that would work well for me. My reading speed varies depending on the content of the book. For most fiction, I zoom through it faster than someone could read aloud. For programming books, I zip through the bits that review topics with which I'm familiar, and slow down when a new (to me) concept is explained. Books explaining some of the math behind 3D graphics (for example), I plod through to soak in as much knowledge as possible. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth
Correction. The problem was that Madoff never bought a damn thing. All he did was shovel money from new investors to previous investors, the definition of a Ponzi scheme. Jeff Miles wrote: I did say 9+years. I wasn't sure how long he'd been ripping a lot of us off. But anyway, that was kind of my point. Why aren't these people under arrest who where charged with over seeing this kind of stuff and chose to ignore it? Or weren't smart enough to see it even when they were told it was going on? Just to keep this on list topic, this is the problem I see with Microsoft. They're huge and powerful and can afford to keep the competition either down, or buy them. I think Madoff did a lot of buying. Jeff M On May 13, 2009, at 7:14 PM, mike wrote: 9 years? Longer then that. He started in the early 90's. By the way, a lot of the same people who were charged with knowing about this sort of thing are still there. On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote: Excuse my interruption, but didn't he get rich off of not only fraud, but people who where in the know and charged with stopping this kind of thing and did know and did nothing? And did nothing for 9+years. It seems to me like it was similar to telling a compulsive thief to not take the money and then give him the keys to the bank and trust him to protect it. Jeff M On May 13, 2009, at 8:06 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: A marketing term used to promote anarchy and rule by the rich. Free Market is what made Bernie Madoff a billionare. OK, so you don't know what it is. That factoid is a real time saver for me. *pssst* He got rich off of fraud. I tell you this so you don't go on being confused and embarrass yourself at cocktail parties. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photo editing software
If you are not a regular user of Picassa, you may not know that a right mouse click on a photo provides an option to Locate On Disk which pops up the folder in which the photo resides. John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Did no one read my post of a few days ago? The pictures are not in Picassa. They are in: Tools=Options=General Save Imported Pictures in ... You are not letting go of the old way of seeing things. The pictures are in Picassa and the are in iPhoto. These programs work differently than the old stuff. I suspect you are going to have even greater problems when we start saying the pictures are in the cloud. Aren't these programs more of a specialized finder for pictures. Picassa sorts through the whole drive and finds all pictures for you. Most probably reside in the standard location for pictures and lots of junk that happens to be in a picture format. Saying it is in Picassa is like saying it is in the viewfinder. True for that image but not true for the physical location. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photo editing software
Did no one read my post of a few days ago? The pictures are not in Picassa. They are in: Tools=Options=General Save Imported Pictures in ... And (for Windows) if you don't modify with the above after installing Picassa, the default is the My Pictures folder in My Documents. How much simpler can it be? Tom Piwowar wrote: WHERE the pics are is important because some of those pics should be backed up. Ask the average Picasa user where their pictures are, and you'll get an absurd answer like They're in Picasa!. That is a perfectly sensible and correct answer. No better and no worse than saying that the files are in a particular directory. Seeing how most people manage files in directories I think it is far better to have them in Picassa. You are just stuck in the over-complicated past. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photo editing software
I'll admit to being folder centric. Yes, I've heard about new ways of organizing photos by characteristics, but for me, it makes sense to know where all my photos are and that they can be backed up easily just by copying My Pictures to another external HD. Over a long IT career, I did go from knowing exactly which volume and track numbers had my data, to letting the OS manage the data, not caring where or even what type of media it was on. But that was within one responsible enterprise. I guess I AM having problems with my data in the cloud, not so much where it is, but who is responsible for it and can I trust not losing my valuable family photos into the vapor. Again, folders work for me for my particular needs. Not knocking other methods. Did no one read my post of a few days ago? The pictures are not in Picassa. They are in: Tools=Options=General Save Imported Pictures in ... You are not letting go of the old way of seeing things. The pictures are in Picassa and the are in iPhoto. These programs work differently than the old stuff. I suspect you are going to have even greater problems when we start saying the pictures are in the cloud. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photo editing software
Won't address your other criticisms, but File Management couldn't be easier. Tools=Options=General Save Imported Pictures in I manage all in a My Pictures folder on an external HD. Tony B wrote: If we're taking a vote, I'd put Picasa at the bottom of any list. Yes, it simplifies things, but it does so by *hiding* everything from the user. i.e., First, users have no idea *where* they're keeping their pictures. Might be in c root, might be 15 levels down. File management techniques are one of the first things a digital photographer MUST learn. Not with Picasa. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] cyber pirates
Your sentiment is correct in theory, but every medical facility I've dealt with insists on SSN. Tried hard at the INOVA Blood Bank, but no SSN, no donation. Even worse, is those on Medicare carry a card with their SSN on it. Yes, you should probably not carry it in your wallet/purse unless going to a medical facility, but I did lose my wallet on a visit to a hospital recently. b_s-wilk wrote: Whether or not the data was copied this time, it's still a good idea to insist, where possible, that all medical records use something other than a social security number as ID, for when the files really are compromised. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Steve added you as a friend on MyLife!
Apologies. I was unaware that My Life is a VIRUS. I received and invite and make the mistake of signing up. BIG MISTAKE. It grabs your address book and invites EVERYONE who is in it. And I don't know why you are, as I don't recognize your name (sorry). Steve Ken Board wrote: Thanks for the invite Steve, whoever you are. Um...no. Unless you throw in beer and pizza. I'll be friends with anyone for beer and pizza! Ken On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Steve Tice stevet...@verizon.net wrote: Steve Tice added you as a friend on MyLife(TM). Please confirm you know Steve so we can connect you. [blah, blah, blah removed] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Apologies for the invite from My Space
Apologies. I was unaware that My Life is a VIRUS. I received an invite and make the mistake of signing up. BIG MISTAKE. It grabs your address book and invites EVERYONE who is in it. Please disregard, and DO NOT make my mistake of signing up, unless you want to do what I did. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Saving Web pages in Firefox my os
Saving web pages in Firefox is exactly what the Scrapbook Add-on does. My wife uses it a lot. You can invoke a sidebar with th saved pages to review. They are saved in a folder and can be exported when changing machines. Check it out. Richard P. wrote: I use XP also, but Firefox is 3.0.10. I can FILE SAVE PAGE AS and it works fine. Richard P. On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 5:27 PM, computerg...@att.net wrote: I use XP. The idea is to save it to the hard drive. Would you suggest save as a pdf and save to the HD? Thanks, Bill. -- Original message from Matthew Taylor taylorsmatt...@gmail.com: -- What OS do you run? Under OS X you can just print to PDF and get a pretty good copy. If you want to descend links then Acrobat will capture a site for you. On May 5, 2009, at 2:13 PM, computerg...@att.net wrote: Hello all. I would like to save web pages in firefox. When I try to do so, it only saves the images, none of the text. Is there a way to save all this information? I use Firefox 2.0, and believe I save them as a web page. Thanks for any reply, Bill. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Show You Net Books Done Right
Spiro T. didn't attack the elite, but the effete; as in: He once described a group of opponents as an effete corps of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals. (From the wiki on Spiro). Tom Piwowar wrote: Certain elements of society like to take words that mean perfectly good things and twist their usage into something undesirable. What the heck is wrong with being elite? Wouldn't most people like to be elite at something? wouldn't you like to know elite people or use elite products? You mean like Spiro Theodore Agnew? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Microsoft DRM Infects FireFox?
MS suffered a big blow last year when Major League Baseball dropped Silverlight and are using Adobe Flash this year for the MLB streaming of games. It is a noticeable improvement. And Netflix switched from WMP to Silverlight last fall for its Watch Instantly streaming of movies. Many users are complaining bitterly about the loss of picture quality. And MS screwed up in not turning off screensaver, thereby interrupting movies in full screen mode. Tom Piwowar wrote: Actually I expect Silverlight to become even more popular over time. Ubiquitous maybe, but popular I think not. Pushing software down people's throats is no way to win a popularity contest. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus
Are you referring to Obama, who believes there are 57 states, not including Hawaii and Alaska? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrsBKGpwi58 Tom Piwowar wrote: Would this logic apply to voting? If someone can't read or doesn't know the 3 branches of federal government or what continent California is in or has an IQ of 60, should they be trusted with the installation of political leadership (voting)? We elected a president who wouldn't pass your test so why fuss over voters? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] NYT: Laptops? So Yesterday
This article will make Tom happy. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/technology/02netbooks.html?emc=eta1 The paper edition title is: Laptops? So Yesterday Point of article is netbooks are really hot and growing. Bad news for Intel and MS; they use cellphone processors and Linux. MS posted first sales decline in its history for the PC version of Windows, blaming netbooks for the drop. Also, even laptops will get thinner and lighter and cheaper (although we could have guessed that). Article is well worth reading. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] NYT: Laptops? So Yesterday
I know next to nothing about netbooks, but from this article, sounds like they are great for basic web functions and they are very portable (not a brick). Down side, small display, and many other functions a full OS gives you. As for waiting, depends on your needs. Of course, waiting will usually get you increased capacity, speed and function at cheaper prices. Ranbo wrote: Thanks for posting this. Guess I should think about waiting a little while before getting a laptop? Randall On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.netwrote: This article will make Tom happy. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/technology/02netbooks.html?emc=eta1 The paper edition title is: Laptops? So Yesterday Point of article is netbooks are really hot and growing. Bad news for Intel and MS; they use cellphone processors and Linux. MS posted first sales decline in its history for the PC version of Windows, blaming netbooks for the drop. Also, even laptops will get thinner and lighter and cheaper (although we could have guessed that). Article is well worth reading. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Not cool enough [was re: Laptop Hunters]
You got it. The ad says, if you are on a budget. You are correct that it says nothing about if you are not on a budget, therefore nothing about the converse. Your placement of the ONLY at the start of the sentence claims the converse. That is why I am correcting your statement. It does not say Only if you are on a tight budget, etc. Again, I am only addressing logical statements (as a long ago math teacher) and nothing about the value of MA or Apple products. Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: That is not logical. The ad says if you are on a budget. So if I am not on a budget, it says nothing to me. This is not mathematical logical; it is human nature. Advertising pays attention to human nature. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Yes, that is true. What I am seeing, that is not in the ad, is the statement _Only_ if you are on a tight budget would you want to buy hardware with an MS operating system. What I do see is _If_ you are on a tight budget, etc Didn't you take logic in some math course where you learned the differences between A if B, A only if B, A if and only if B? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Not cool enough [was re: Laptop Hunters]
Again, I agree with you. If you quickly recognized that the ad was for those who wanted a laptop and were on a budget, and you weren't, then you rightly should have tuned it out. Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: That is fine, but when did advertising start using linear logical proofs? I was referring to human nature, so when an ad caters to women, I stop paying attention because I'm not female. Doesn't apply to me; only women. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- You got it. The ad says, if you are on a budget. You are correct that it says nothing about if you are not on a budget, therefore nothing about the converse. Your placement of the ONLY at the start of the sentence claims the converse. That is why I am correcting your statement. It does not say Only if you are on a tight budget, etc. Again, I am only addressing logical statements (as a long ago math teacher) and nothing about the value of MA or Apple products. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Not cool enough [was re: Laptop Hunters]
You're surprised that the sponsor of an ad would tell you who he is and what his product is? I interpret the meaning of touting as telling you what is so great about it, not just flashing a product name. I repeat, for the nth time, MS is not directly selling Windows here. They are indirectly, by convincing you to buy a PC laptop. Certainly, you are aware that MS earns almost all of its revenue from Windows on preinstalled PCs, not from folks who say, Gee, I like the looks of that there Vista; I think I will go out and by me a copy to upgrade my XP (THOSE are your MS Fanboys) And, as I said before, this ad is targeted at people who don't give a damn about what OS comes with the machine or are complacent about getting yet another Windows PC. It's Apple's job to convince them otherwise. And their I'm a PC are very effective. phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Steve at Verizon stevet...@verizon.net wrote: Actually, MS is in no way touting their operating system in this commercial, which is aimed at an audience which is indifferent to operating systems (hard to believe for this newsgroup there are so many of them out there) and are just looking for an inexpensive laptop. I saw the ad only once, but do not remember any discussion of Windows or how great it isg. There is the MS logo prominently displayed three times in the ad, and Windows is also displayed. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Not cool enough [was re: Laptop Hunters]
Faulty logic. The statement: If you are on a budget, you buy a PC laptop is not equivalent to the statement Only if you are on a budget, you buy a PC laptop Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: So, assuming this ad is successful, the only reason to buy a Windows computer is because you're on budget. Wow, how far does MS expect to get with that as their brand? Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- I don't care what the budget buyer's want; I want a good laptop computer, and Apple has models that appeal to that. Well, there ya go. The fact that budget buyers exist and are not served by Apple is sorta the whole point, isn't it? Whether you care about them or not? FYI, the budget buyers don't care what you want, either. One thing they do know is that they can't have a Mac laptop even if that's what they really want. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Not cool enough [was re: Laptop Hunters]
Not true. Your problem is with the placement of the word only. It is true that MS is advertising themselves as the _only_ alternative for people on a tight budget. Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: And that is my Point! MS is _only_ advertizing themselves as the alternative for people on a tight budget. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Not cool enough [was re: Laptop Hunters]
Yes, that is true. What I am seeing, that is not in the ad, is the statement _Only_ if you are on a tight budget would you want to buy hardware with an MS operating system. What I do see is _If_ you are on a tight budget, etc Didn't you take logic in some math course where you learned the differences between A if B, A only if B, A if and only if B? Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: Steve you are seeing something that is not in the ad. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Not true. Your problem is with the placement of the word only. It is true that MS is advertising themselves as the _only_ alternative for people on a tight budget. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters
Right, but your solution to the gal who wanted a laptop was an iMac which is not. Tom Piwowar wrote: Tom, read the subject line! I wrote that subject line. It belongs to me. It is the title of the commercial, not a reference to a type of computer. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Not cool enough [was re: Laptop Hunters]
MS doesn't offer laptops. They offer an operating system that runs on low end laptops (and, in addition, midrange and high end). Apple offers an OS and hardware only in the midrange and high end. Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: If all MS has to offer is cheap (and only mention purchase price), then they are in more trouble than I imagined. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters
Now you get the point of the commercial! She couldn't seriously consider a Mac, as there were zero options, given her budget and requirements. She obviously didn't know that, else why would she have traveled to the Apple Store. So she must have learned that fact there, hence the short visit. That's the message MS is delivering in the commercial. Nothing deceptive about that. You may argue that MS stacked the deck by limiting her budget to $1000, or her need for a 17 screen, but many laptop shoppers want 17 and under $1000, preferably closer to $750. What would be deceptive would be if MS claims their OS is better than the Mac OSg. I am in no way defending MS, only the (il)logic in the arguments against this commercial. Constance Warner wrote: The unrealistic--and ultimately deceptive--element in this little skit is that she ever SERIOUSLY considered a Mac in the first place. --Constance Warner On Mar 30, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: I still say, that going shopping with preconceived notions and requirements is fundamentally unrealistic Constance, if she only has $1,000, she only has $1,000. No amount of Mac is better fattens her wallet. McFans' protest notwithstanding, there is nothing unrealistic about this. Not everyone who needs a computer can afford McPrices. The cheapest 17 Apple portable isn't just out of her price range, it's *far* out of her price range. What is fundamentally unrealistic is McFans' apparent belief that it is foolish to limit what you buy on the basis of how much money you have. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters
Tom, read the subject line! Tom Piwowar wrote: Constance, if she only has $1,000, she only has $1,000. 20-inch iMac is $999 at the Apple Online Store today. Right on the home page. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Laptop Hunters
She wanted a LAPTOP!!! Do you not understand that some people need a machine they can use in the classroom, or on a plane, or working from their hotel room when traveling. Surely you are not ignorant of the many reasons for the use of a laptop. Why do you repeated tell her she can't have one? Tom Piwowar wrote: Now you get the point of the commercial! She couldn't seriously consider a Mac, as there were zero options, given her budget and requirements. Now you don't get the point. The requirements were artificially contrived to exclude a very good and appropriate computer that Apple does make that competes with the 8-pound laptop. The Apple offering even comes with a bigger screen and a full set of software. The $999 20-inch iMac is what she should have bought. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iTunes purchases
You need to physically copy the folders with the purchased music to your other machines. You bring them in to the new iTunes via FileAdd New Folder to Library. Make sure you have the Copy Files to iTunes Music Folder When Adding to Library option checked in PreferencesAdvanced. When you first play one of the tracks, iTunes pops up your account info asking you if you want to authorize that group on this new machine and tells you how many of up to 5 machines you have authorized. David Turk wrote: I log in to iTunes from my 2 Macs my PC at work. Why does the Purchased window only show what music I've purchased with each individual computer? It's the same account, so shouldn't purchases made on my Mac show up on the PC? As I understand, I can authorize up to 5 machines to play the music. Several of us share out libraries at work, I'd like to be able to put my purchases in my PC library too. tia. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 (317) 232-4592 dt...@indianahistory.org * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Silly but important question...
And for you Firefox (and Thunderbird) users, MozBackup is a very easy backup/restore utility. I use it to sync with my laptop (does not only bookmarks, but your Bookmark Toolbar, saved logon passwords, etc.) Terry Kilburg wrote: The fastest way is to go to your Internet Browser if it is IE, go to File-Import/export-Next-select Export and pop in a writable CD. Have did that for over 12 yrs throughout computers. Online syncing is excellent but i lost mine once but i created a backup externally. Back 'em up and then dig into bookmark syncing. Just like with money, you also can diversify your bookmark approach, Marcio! Terry Kilburg - Independent Reliv International Distributor! 563-872-3788 kilb...@iowatelecom.net * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] What? Me Worry? - DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! -- OT! POL
Although Tom and I duked it out on the political front, I wholeheartedly agree with him on the iPod front. For the first few years, I was an Apple rebel and tried several mp3 players like Rio and several iRivers, but finally succumbed to the mini and shuffle a couple of years ago. Good functionality and ease of use, and (don't laugh) I actually like iTunes and its integration with the iPods. I found iTunes so much easier than WMP or Winamp, especially when editing the ID3 tags. Don't think I'll go so far as to switch from PC to Mac though, especially as the Win 7 beta screams on my Lenovo laptop. Tom Piwowar wrote: Marketing is Apple's biggest strength. No. Apple's biggest strength is building great products. From time to time Apple has tried to sell us things that were not insanely great and in those cases Apple fared no better than Zune. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] I Bought a BIG Mistake - Earphone Cord Problem
If your listening media are conducive to the iPod Shuffle (in my case, it is audiobooks while working out), and don't like the earphone cord getting in the way, you might want to check out the Arriva iPod Shuffle: http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/arriva-ipod-shuffle-in/4505-7877_7-32853283.html In my case, I solved the cord problem by wrapping the cord of my Sennheiser earbuds twice around my neck and clipping the shuffle to my tshirt collar. db wrote: For me... it's not the headphones/ earbuds but the cords. That's why I was inquiring a little while ago about MP3 player and bluetooth earbuds... to get rid of the cords for a MP3/radio device. I was also hoping that a bluetooth cell phone could share the cordless system too... I was given some leads but I never got to the bottom of that research. yet! I suspect I was asking for too much... unless I buy a bluetooth phone that has music capability... db Matthew S. Taylor wrote: I think what he was hoping for was the equivalent of an old portable transistor radio sized device (slightly larger than a deck of cards in my youth) that would play his podcasts. Not unreasonable to want IMO - sometimes you just don't want to be attached to headphones. Matthew On Feb 17, 2009, at 1:58 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: You bought a Coby, which blatently rips off the Sony font and logo, and you're surprised how much it sucks? You're a bigger man than I to admit doing this. For $50, you could have gotten a much better Sandisk, tho' without the speakers. You can get so-so, fold-up external speakers, about the size of a paperback, for about $20. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]
What makes you think that libertarians aren't generous? The difference is that they are generous with their own money. Liberals are generous with other peoples money. Jordan wrote: Jeff Wright wrote: libertarians There are many fine elements to the libertarian point of view. They are also the party of I've got mine, screw you way of thinking. That is not what this country should be about and it would be disastrous in our current economic situation. Maybe you've forgotten how this topic started: I've mentioned before, the common knowledge that the people in countries there the taxes are high tend to feel more satisfied with life. So I dug up an article and a study with charts and graphs that show this. One talks about measures of well being, and is a pdf from Deutche Bank: http://www.dbresearch.com/PROD/DBR_INTERNET_EN-PROD/PROD00202587.pdf The other is an article from MSN Money that lists tax burdens of industrialized countries. (I know, it might be another Microsoft plot) http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Taxes/P148855.asp * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]
You keep forgetting that we do not elect a president by popular vote. Get the Constitution changed if you want it that way. And it was 7 Justices who overruled the Fla Supreme Courts decision (The 5-4 vote was for remanding it back to them). Chris Dunford wrote: let their demand for small/weak federal government (or against activist judges) try to justify their bigotry. Yeah, and, as a side note, it's always interesting to note that judges are only activist if they do stuff that the conservatives don't like. There's apparently nothing activist about, say, five judges selecting as President the candidate with a half-million fewer votes. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]
I guess I shouldn't have delved into the tricky definitions of these terms. Let me try to clarify. From that site I referenced, I thought we could all agree with items 1-6, in that, most of us are small l liberal. I.e. we all agree with the same ends; equality under the law, equal opportunity, no discrimination, etc. It is the means to achieve these objectives that divide us. Back again to that smaller/bigger government involvement issue. That site went on further to distinguish Conservatives and Modern Liberals. In most of the discussions in this long and unending thread, we all should have used the cap form. (I'm sure that you have many small c conservative qualities, like protection of natural resources.) (I am a democrat, but not a Democrat) I'm surprised that Scalia said either of the quotes you gave. Can you cite? I highly doubt the former. The latter is a gross misstatement of original intent. It completely ignores the amendments which have made many improvements in our Constitution over the centuries (Correcting slavery, suffrage, etc) Back to Scalia. I was impressed with his take on his (losing) vote on the Lawrence v. Texas ruling. He supported the legality of the legislation, that states can enact laws pertaining to morality, while at the same time saying that if he had been in that legislature, he would have voted against it. He did not let his liberal view of homosexuality cloud the interpretation of law. I stand by my claim, that since the core of Modern Conservative philosophy is limited government, and that was the aim of our founders, then they would be more attuned to Modern Conservatism even though I agree that they were all small l liberals. Finally, if Liberal isn't a bad word anymore, why do Liberals call themselves Progressives now instead. b_s-wilk wrote: Again, I was referring to contemporary usage of the terms liberal and conservative. If you looked at the link I gave, you will see that today the term liberal usually refers to Modern Liberal as described there. I cannot think of any modern conservatives who would side with the Tories. Modern conservatives are more attuned to the original principles of the Constitution (think Judge Scalia). That's stunning. You say that Antonin 'torture isn't cruel and unusual punishment so it's Constitutional' Scalia is a liberal. You say that Antonin 'we have a Constitution that is fixed by the words as the Founders understood them back in the late 1700s' Scalia is a liberal. Amazing. The odd [re-]definition of liberal from conservative-resources.com, is doublespeak that would make Frank Luntz smile. The good news is that liberal isn't a bad word any more. The bad news is that the redefinition is so blatantly wrong. Liberal = conservative? Was Ben Franklin conservative? Thomas Jefferson? James Madison? Not hardly. The Internet contains a vast wealth of information and is also a vast wasteland. You want Jack Kennedy to be a conservative? You can find plenty of sites claiming that. You want Barack Obama to be the most liberal person in the Senate [pre-POTUS]? You can find plenty of site claiming that too. Both assertions are wrong. How do you preserve history and direct seekers to facts and rational discussions instead of getting lost and entangled in a jungle of disinformation and fantasy? How do we educate our children so that they have the ability to know the difference and discern truth/fact from fiction? Betty --- ...Rot a peck of pa's malt had Jhem or Shen brewed by arclight and rory end to the regginbrow was to be seen ringsome on the aquaface. The fall (bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonner- ronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk!) of a once wallstrait oldparr is retaled early in bed and later on life down through all christian minstrelsy... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
Again, I was referring to contemporary usage of the terms liberal and conservative. If you looked at the link I gave, you will see that today the term liberal usually refers to Modern Liberal as described there. I cannot think of any modern conservatives who would side with the Tories. Modern conservatives are more attuned to the original principles of the Constitution (think Judge Scalia). b_s-wilk wrote: I would consider the founding fathers to be conservative, not liberal. You've got it. The Bill of Rights are PROHIBITIONS on what the federal government can do... Yep. Most of the founders of the United States, especially those who wrote the Constitution considered themselves to be liberal, in the tradition of the Age of Enlightenment. The definition of liberal hasn't changed that much since then. The conservatives were the ones who wanted to remain British, not the ones who wanted revolution. Good thing the founders weren't Libertarian, otherwise they'd never agree on a Constitution that would last, or even what to write. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
OK, now you've done it. Your post is so riddled with factual untruths I couldn't respond to all of them. But here a a few 1. Al-Qaeda declared war on the US in 1996 under the Clinton admin. 2. It was the Clinton administration who knew that Saddam had WMD and called for regime change 3. The terrorists of 9/11 came here and trained pre-Bush. The FBI and CIA had no actionable intelligence on this. Hence, the post 9/11 reorg to Homeland Security. 4. There was never a recount, including the one done by the NYT and Wash Post which put Gore ahead. Remember that the US Supreme Court ruled 7-2 that the Florida courts kept changing the rules for vote counting. And, believe it or not, I would agree with you on a couple of points. Bush most certainly should have pulled out his veto pen on the profligate spending of the Republican controlled Congress. He was not a great speaker. db wrote: Eric S. Sande wrote: ...But the United States is something new. We can, and do, toss the rascals out. On a regular basis. On occasion we do elect a new bunch of rascals. But the system is designed in such a way as to never allow particular rascals enough time to do real damage. What do you call real damage, if: * ignoring warnings and allowing the 3rd ever attack on American soil,(English sacking Washington, Pearl Harbor...) * starting two unfunded war-mire's, that have ended up making his enemies of the time (Al Queda, Iran, N.Korea).. and now Russia all more powerful, rather than weaker * Taking over a government budget surplus and ending up creating the biggest government deficit in real dollars ever, * presiding over the biggest economic and banking collapse since the depression, all while controlling the House, Senate and Executive Branch for the previous 6 years. * denying global warming impeding the dev. of alternative energy for most of his terms * cutting N.O.levee funding, ignoring warnings, putting his nimrod unqualified buddy in charge of FEMA and allowing, N.O to be washed away without even realizing what was going on for most of the first week * Putting more unqualified political hacks in charge of the gov than any pres ever... * Being in charge while the US became more unpopular internationally than in any other time in the last 100 years On the whole, George W. Bush wasn't a totally bad President. Maybe if you measure by how good he was at the Presidential vacation part of the job ... spending 1/3 of his days in Office on vacation out of Washington... mt. biking, jogging, cutting brush, fishing, . Yes he was stupid to invade Iraq. Yes he was an incredibly bad public speaker. But the moment of his Presidency that I will most remember was at 9:00 a.m. on 9/11/2001. He was reading to schoolchildren when an aide brought him the news. He was speechless, floored. Speechless ... as in clueless as to what to say or do maybe. What we do know is that he then got on Air Force One and headed for the western US leaving Cheney in the hot seat until the uproar over his silence and absence got the plane turned around. But he got up and kept on going. That my friends is class. By getting going... do you mean that 9/11 Air Force One flight, his penchant for jogging and Mt. biking, the Vietnam war service he ran out on ... the international diplomacy his gov. finally began attempting late in his last term or just the fact that he didn't resign? He did get out of bed each day in the White House mansion ... well, 2/3 of his days in office he did anyways ... when he wasn't going on vacation. Other than the times he had nothing to say of any import or the numerous times he couldn't speak grade school English , I remember him reading a bunch of scripted in mean spirited, jingoistic inflammatory, photo op press ops ... that he later said were the only things he regretted ... starting one war, failing to follow up on it, then starting a 2nd clusterone ... both of which accomplished exactly the opposite of everything intended and which remain as boat anchors around our necks today. O yeh... then as the economy collapsed, he was clearly doing nothing but going for the door ... We don't always elect the best people for the job. But we do elect them, and that is what is important. Well as I remember it wasn't in fact clear that we did. It turns out, Bush didn't win the popular vote in 2000 and if Gore had been as mean spirited, aggressive and militant a leader as Bush , it is not clear that the electoral challenge process, that was working its way to a conclusion, would have determined that Bush even won the Electoral College vote. I prefer to think we didn't elect him ... that election was just a precursor or harbinger of all the other boneheaded American disasters he cluelessly precipitated later. * **
Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
I agree with the USA part, but most actions were left/right united, as in WWI, and WWII. But mostly the right in winning the Cold War. And, if I may be so bold, the neocons can take credit for ousting a totalitarian regime and establishing a multi-party representative government in Iraq. Yes, can't say the war is officially over, but Iraq feels self-sufficient to assume full responsibility without our help in a year or two. Tom Piwowar wrote: Please give me an example where liberals did overthrow a government and replaced it with a democratic one along the lines of the western world. Neocons will disagree, but I nominate the USofA. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
In todays categorization of the terms, in general, I consider conservatives to believe in limited government involvement in our lives and liberals to want more, especially at the federal level. Thus the battles over National Health Care, federal funding of all kinds of social programs, using the tax code to redistribute wealth, etc. In that regard, I would consider the founding fathers to be conservative, not liberal. They wrote a Constitution to explicitly provide enumerated services like banking, coinage, and a military. The Bill of Rights are PROHIBITIONS on what the federal government can do (Congress shall make no law...) and they tried to further limit its powers with the 10th Amendment (The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people) but it only lasted until 1837. Never repealed but de facto repealed by the courts. I will give you India. Thanks. But I think it is hard to categorize todays use of liberal/conservative terminology to the 13th century. (And initially, the MC applied only to the King's Barons.) In research, I found this definition of the term Liberal. http://www.conservative-resources.com/definition-of-liberal.html Now this is a conservative site, but please look at the first 6 items. I think it is fair and accurate to the classical meaning which we can all probably agree with. If you are a Modern Liberal, stop reading there (that means you, Tom), as its likely you will be offended by the remainder of the essay . (Conservative axe grinding) b_s-wilk wrote: Please give me an example where liberals did overthrow a government and replaced it with a democratic one along the lines of the western world. That's easy; here's two. The United States--original 13 colonies. India, 1947, with work of Mahandas K. Gandhi. How about the Magna Carta in 1215 creating a nation of laws, not totally controlled by royal dictators. Are you still confused? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows Installation disk with new computer?
I know about Lenovo. No Windows install disk, but they come with a utility to burn restore disks from which you can rebuild your windows system. I.e. on a replaced or reformatted HD. Also, the Microcenter PowerSpec systems I've had (including present one) don't have one, but do include a DVD with a system rebuild capability. John Emmerling wrote: When buying a new computer, how can you tell whether it will come with the Windows installation disk? When I bought a computer from a screwdriver shop, it had an installation disk, which proved handy. I also bought an eMachines computer which didn't have it. Fortunately the need never arose. I am looking at product specifications on line without being able to determine this. Is this not a concern for most customers? What keywords should I look for? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Taxes and good life
Depends if you consider Communists liberal (and before anyone complains that I used those two words in the same sentence, the converse is NOT necessarily the case) Then we have Russia (yes, serfdom was terrible, but Stalin killed 30 million of his own people), China (the glorious Cultural Revolution), North Korea, Venezuela (we cons may have failed, but Chavez has become a dictator, no free press, no free speech), likewise Bolivia, and I would debate you on Cuba (only did OK until they lost the financial support of the USSR, and don't blame it all on the US embargo). Please give me an example where liberals did overthrow a government and replaced it with a democratic one along the lines of the western world. b_s-wilk wrote: As opposed to the world wide good liberal activists and supporters of liberation have done over the years. Where did this happen? The liberators I recall are mostly the cons overthrowing popularly elected governments in places like Iran [at least twice], Chile, Australia, Honduras, Cuba [remember Batista? He was our puppet], El Salvador, Nicaragua [at least 4x], Venezuela [cons failed], Panama [at least twice], and plenty more cons' targets. What liberals overthrew a government and deliberately made a worse situation for the people? Don't pretend that Castro was liberal--he's a nationalist who overthrew our Mafia-run puppet [my family made it out in time] then faced an unwarranted embargo, so give another example, please, or cut out this neocon propaganda. Betty * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
From today's New York Times Agency Says Hamas Took Aid Intended for Needy JERUSALEM — The United Nations http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/u/united_nations/index.html?inline=nyt-org agency that provides assistance to Palestinian http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/p/palestinians/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier refugees said Wednesday that the Hamas http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/h/hamas/index.html?inline=nyt-org police in Gaza http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/gaza_strip/index.html?inline=nyt-geo had seized aid supplies intended for the needy, signaling increased tensions between the agency and the Hamas leaders of the Palestinian enclave. full story at: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/05/world/middleeast/05mideast.html?_r=1scp=1sq=hamas%20agencyst=cse Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I am sorry to see you are in Gaza enabling Hamas. Money is fungible and I can not support Hamas. Matthew If people are in need people are in need. It does not matter the stripes of their politics. People are in need in Gaze. I do not agree with Hamas either but there are tons of folks there that are in need. Stewart Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
On top of which some expect the government to pay for the loss of property so foolishly placed. Matthew Taylor wrote: You are correct there. The flood plains of the Mississippi river basin were as fertile as they were in part because they were flood plains. Our insistence that we build along the shore and ward off floods, rather than learn to live with them, has done great damage to the ecosystem. Matthew On Feb 4, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote: NOT True. And, we should do EXACTLY the same. Several cities along the Mississippi have finally relocated to higher ground. Scottsville in Virginia did so about ten years ago (after building a levee taller than the fences in Israel, to no avail). We all need to recognize the nature of flooding, desertification, and the like- whether you ascribe to climate change (the ostriches abound) or not. Eschew Obfuscation This is a reply from: Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. Financial, Managerial, and Technical Services for the Professional, Non-Profit, and the Entrepreneurial Organization 703.548.1343 voice 703.783.1340 fax From thinking to doing, from sales to profits, from tax to investments- we are YOUR adjuvancy -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Chris Dunford Sent: 02/04/2009 12:07 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves Remember Sam Kinison? Get in the trucks - you live in a freaking desert - we are taking you to where the food is I laughed so hard I cried. I remember this--it was very funny advice, but not real practical. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves
No, I think he meant that you shouldn't be prosecuted for violating the Good Samaritan law for which the Seinfeld 4 were found guilty in the last episode of the show. Tom Piwowar wrote: Ethically, I believe I am compelled to help my neighbor in time of need. I reject any notion that I have the right to compel you to help your neighbor. Its a freedom thing. So you also reject the notion that your neighbor should be compelled to refrain from murdering you? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
