[CGUYS] Windows Media Player Sound - Tourbusrider Followup

2009-03-24 Thread John Settle

What is the status of your WMP and other issues? Have you had any luck?


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player Sound - Tourbusrider Followup

2009-03-24 Thread Tourbus Rider Stuart Carlow
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What is the status of your WMP and other issues? Have you had any luck?


1. I have given up on fixing the WMP issue of playing audio on some WMV files 
and not on others, 
while the audio does play when using VLP.  I have given up because I have not 
been able
to fine any solution.
2. After I tried downloading and installing the latest audio drivers from 
Creative, something 
went awry and I was receiving an error loading P17.dll message upon 
rebooting.  
It turns out that this dll was being called for in the system startup.  
I just unchecked its box and it no longer tries to load.  This did not
cause any other problems.
3. In trying to solve problem 2 above, I also attempted to run a system 
restore, 
but at the end of each attempt I was told that the restore was unsuccessful.  I 
tried this 
on something like 4 or 5 different restore points.  I have not yet solved 
that problem, but
I did find a suggested solution (which I haven't yet implemented, but will 
shortly).
The solution is to turn off creation of all restore points, reboot, and then 
turn it back on.
This will remove all previous restore points and start fresh, apparently 
problem-free.
(To accomplish this on XP: right click on My Computer/Properties/System 
Restore/check Turn off
System Restore On All Drives.  Then reboot, then go through the same steps but 
this time unchecking
the Turn Off... box, and rebooting.)


 



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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-16 Thread Tom Piwowar
I don't want the EU or DOJ deciding that the Subway $5 foot-long sub is
unfair and should be $7, or 10 inches, because it makes the Quiznos sub guys
have to stay late at work and miss tucking in the kids at night, because all
that competing stuff is really, really hard.

Silly man. They don't. They will close down the Subway for serving you a 
cockroach sandwich and that would be right. Your radical philosophy leads 
to people dying from eating a peanut cookie. You may think that running a 
filthy plant is good free-market competition, but I think it is criminal. 


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-16 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 Is there really that much to be gained from being able to deactivate
 certain
 applications?  A reduced profile security-wise, yes, but it may be that
 enough of those applications share enough code that little is gained in
 that
 form.

 Is there really that much to be gained from being able to decide for
 myself what software is installed on *my* computer?

 You have got to be kidding. Talk about dictate.


It is just a synonym for directive.  I have heard it used that way by NPR
and Marketplace.

I like the granularity of being able to remove things from Windows but I
won't bother for most of it.

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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-16 Thread Jeff Wright
 Silly man. They don't. They will close down the Subway for serving you a
 cockroach sandwich and that would be right. Your radical philosophy leads
 to people dying from eating a peanut cookie. You may think that running a
 filthy plant is good free-market competition, but I think it is criminal.

:::shakes head:::

I should know better than to encourage you.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-15 Thread Jeff Wright
No problem here in Vista, with all patches applied.

 Well, I've since powered down and rebooted. Still WMP has no sound
 from mp3s. Most odd.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-15 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Eric S. Sande esa...@erols.com wrote:

 If they did, I'm sure the EU would be launching a very serious
 investigation of the matter right now.


 And saying I'm not really concerned about what the EU does
 doesn't play into this discussion, right?


No there is evidence that M$ has been adjusting things in Windows to allow
it to conform to the EU dictates.  I expect that any big EU complaint will
change Windows for the whole world.

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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-15 Thread Jeff Wright
 No there is evidence that M$ has been adjusting things in Windows to
 allow
 it to conform to the EU dictates.  I expect that any big EU complaint
 will
 change Windows for the whole world.

Microsoft created the Windows N version for Europe, Windows without WMP
bundled, to comply with the EU's absurd and baseless assertion that WMP was
harming the media player market.  Few consumers saw any value in it and it
didn't sell.

In Windows 7, it's reported that MS will allow the deactivation of certain
applications, including IE, or functionality.  It's suspected this is being
done to head off the anti-trust pinheads in the EU.

http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/03/06/beta-to-rc-changes-turning-windo
ws-features-on-or-off.aspx

From a enterprise desktop management standpoint, this is good as it allows
more centralized control of the deployed installation of Windows on the
floor.  If the company management doesn't want staff to have a particular
functionality available to them, it eases this role as you can deactivate
this function through group policy, rather than having to uninstall or find
a workaround way to disable or block functionality.

From a consumer standpoint, it's pointless as you can always d/l a
competitive product and use that instead.  Mozilla's bleating to the EU
about how they have been harmed by IE, as Firefox's share of the browser
market has grown from 5% to 20% (and still growing) at the expense of IE
over the past 2 years, is curious at best.  Dishonest is a better word.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-15 Thread Eric S. Sande

Well, I've since powered down and rebooted. Still WMP has no sound
from mp3s. Most odd.


Well, I wouldn't listen to MP3s under any circumstances, so it may
be a blessing.

Check your volume controls, that was an issue that I had last week.

Especially that insidious Windows system volume control.




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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-15 Thread Tom Piwowar
I saw the trailer.  I'm concerned that you apparently think
that I'm shaking anyone down.

Not you personally. You should be so wealthy. Then we would all want to 
be your friend.

I'm all for old-fashioned investment in infrastructure and getting a fair 
return on investment. For the most part your company is an example of 
doig it right. But then we have Comcast and Cox and their little brothers 
trying to throttle profits out of us. That is a different matter, 
manipulation and deceit substituted for good finance and engineering. 


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-15 Thread Tony B
It's nothing real obvious here. I've also found it isn't playing
videos. Oddly, it's playing sound on mpeg2's. I got it to do an odd
slow-motion playback on
.mp3 no sound
.wmv no sound no vid
.mpg(2) no vid

I don't use it that often, and all my other players work, so I'm not
going to worry about it a whole lot. But it bugs me.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-15 Thread Eric S. Sande
For the most part your company is an example of 
doig it right.


Yeah, thanks.

I'm not saying we don't screw up on occasion but we
try really hard not to.

My opinions are separate from policy and I don't
speak for the company.




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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-15 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote:

  No there is evidence that M$ has been adjusting things in Windows to
  allow
  it to conform to the EU dictates.  I expect that any big EU complaint
  will
  change Windows for the whole world.

 Microsoft created the Windows N version for Europe, Windows without WMP
 bundled, to comply with the EU's absurd and baseless assertion that WMP was
 harming the media player market.  Few consumers saw any value in it and it
 didn't sell.

 In Windows 7, it's reported that MS will allow the deactivation of
 certain
 applications, including IE, or functionality.  It's suspected this is being
 done to head off the anti-trust pinheads in the EU.


 http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/03/06/beta-to-rc-changes-turning-windo
 ws-features-on-or-off.aspxhttp://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/03/06/beta-to-rc-changes-turning-windo%0Aws-features-on-or-off.aspx

 From a enterprise desktop management standpoint, this is good as it allows
 more centralized control of the deployed installation of Windows on the
 floor.  If the company management doesn't want staff to have a particular
 functionality available to them, it eases this role as you can deactivate
 this function through group policy, rather than having to uninstall or find
 a workaround way to disable or block functionality.

 From a consumer standpoint, it's pointless as you can always d/l a
 competitive product and use that instead.  Mozilla's bleating to the EU
 about how they have been harmed by IE, as Firefox's share of the browser
 market has grown from 5% to 20% (and still growing) at the expense of IE
 over the past 2 years, is curious at best.  Dishonest is a better word.


Yep, it actually seems to be improving Windows by making it more adjustable
by the end user.  I do wonder if you can now do updates with any browser.
They seem to be coding it once for the world so we get the benefits of
things done to bring it in in a way to satisfy the EU.

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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-15 Thread Jeff Wright
 Yep, it actually seems to be improving Windows by making it more
 adjustable
 by the end user.  

Yes, change is good and it may, in fact, be a big winner in terms of Windows
sales, but how much of this is utterly wasted capital in the form of the
baker's window?  If nothing else, a whole lotta lawyers and law firms got
wealthy(er) from US and EU actions.

Is there really that much to be gained from being able to deactivate certain
applications?  A reduced profile security-wise, yes, but it may be that
enough of those applications share enough code that little is gained in that
form.

Is there really any significant consumer demand for an OS to do this?


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-15 Thread Tom Piwowar
Is there really that much to be gained from being able to deactivate certain
applications?  A reduced profile security-wise, yes, but it may be that
enough of those applications share enough code that little is gained in that
form.

Is there really that much to be gained from being able to decide for 
myself what software is installed on *my* computer?

You have got to be kidding. Talk about dictate.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-15 Thread Jeff Wright
 Is there really that much to be gained from being able to decide for
 myself what software is installed on *my* computer?
 
 You have got to be kidding. Talk about dictate.

You obviously zoned out over the part about whether or not all of the public
and private resources expended on the MS witch hunts is worth this.  Your
house is burned down to the ground and the exterminator final bill is in the
mid-6 figures, but we finally got that termite problem licked.

I don't know if it is worth it or not.  You apparently think it is with your
infinite wisdom.  Usually this is sort of thing that markets (and their
millions of interested actors) typically decide, because, you know, hubris
isn't a reliable market input.  

I don't want the EU or DOJ deciding that the Subway $5 foot-long sub is
unfair and should be $7, or 10 inches, because it makes the Quiznos sub guys
have to stay late at work and miss tucking in the kids at night, because all
that competing stuff is really, really hard.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread Eric S. Sande

Use VLC. Dump WMP.


That seems a little extreme, what are the opportunity costs
of using VLC?

Admittedly that was my first reaction also, based on if it
doesn't work 100% and if you have something that does,
use it.

The reason for my question about why he would use WMP
in preference to VLC was strictly based on curiosity.

In my application WMP is fine.  It works well, it's supported,
but I'm doing audio not video.

I was trying to get down to specific file non-performance
issues with my follow up on this.  Maybe I didn't ask the
question correctly.

  



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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread mike
VLC is a good choice, good support for a wide variety of codecs out of the
box.  Codec/containers etc can be extremely confusing especially when you
get into subtitle support etc.

You may look at this codec to install:
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/AC3_Filter.htm

Someone else on the list may have an opinion on that, but I always install a
base load of codecs on a new system...that's one of them.

On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:53 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:

 Use VLC. Dump WMP.



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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread mike
VLC isn't as 'clean' in appearence, but offers more options and supports a
wide variety of codecs without the need for add ons.

On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Eric S. Sande esa...@erols.com wrote:

 Use VLC. Dump WMP.


 That seems a little extreme, what are the opportunity costs
 of using VLC?

 Admittedly that was my first reaction also, based on if it
 doesn't work 100% and if you have something that does,
 use it.

 The reason for my question about why he would use WMP
 in preference to VLC was strictly based on curiosity.

 In my application WMP is fine.  It works well, it's supported,
 but I'm doing audio not video.

 I was trying to get down to specific file non-performance
 issues with my follow up on this.  Maybe I didn't ask the
 question correctly.




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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread Eric S. Sande

VLC isn't as 'clean' in appearence, but offers more options and
supports a wide variety of codecs without the need for add ons.


Granted but it's freeware with no guarantee of support.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread mike
Maybe you can elaborate?  Support of what?  It either will play a file or
not.

On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Eric S. Sande esa...@erols.com wrote:

 VLC isn't as 'clean' in appearence, but offers more options and
 supports a wide variety of codecs without the need for add ons.


 Granted but it's freeware with no guarantee of support.



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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread Eric S. Sande
Maybe you can elaborate?  Support of what?  It either will play a 
file or not.


By support I mean VLC could be out of business in the next 20
minutes.  Yes it does what it does well.

Do they have a sustainable capacity?  Time will tell.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread Jim
VLC is open source with developers all over the world contributing.   
Unlikely to suffer the fate a single corporate entity might.  With  
over 46 million downloads of the current release, fairly widely  
accepted.


Jim


On Mar 14, 2009, at 4:36 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote:

Maybe you can elaborate?  Support of what?  It either will play a  
file or not.


By support I mean VLC could be out of business in the next 20
minutes.  Yes it does what it does well.

Do they have a sustainable capacity?  Time will tell.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
VLC is open source with developers all over the world contributing.   
Unlikely to suffer the fate a single corporate entity might.  With  
over 46 million downloads of the current release, fairly widely  
accepted.

Over the long term will WMP or VLC be more a reliable choice?

VLC is open source with developers all over the world contributing... 
It would be very difficult for someone to hijack VLC and have it do 
obnoxious things to its users. If someone tried the most that would 
happen is the product forking, leaving the bad guys behind.

WMP is proprietary and belongs to a company with a track record of 
manipulating its software to extract every last advantage. It is quite 
likely that at some point the product will be abandoned for something 
more profitable or changed to do obnoxious things to its users (draconian 
DRM etc.).

By all means you should stick with safe WMP.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread Eric S. Sande
WMP is proprietary and belongs to a company with a track record of 
manipulating its software to extract every last advantage.


Yeah, you could say that about every company that ever was in
business.  Yes, you are darn right that I'll use every strength that
I have to get an advantage.

If Microsoft can't do the job I'll take my business elsewhere.

Doesn't matter who sells me the technology, the mission is what's
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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread Jeff Wright
 Yeah, you could say that about every company that ever was in
 business.  Yes, you are darn right that I'll use every strength that
 I have to get an advantage.
 
 If Microsoft can't do the job I'll take my business elsewhere.
 
 Doesn't matter who sells me the technology, the mission is what's
 important.

VLC is a very good, free DVD player for Windows, as a DVD decoder is not
included as part of the OS.

If they did, I'm sure the EU would be launching a very serious investigation
of the matter right now.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread Eric S. Sande
If they did, I'm sure the EU would be launching a very serious 
investigation of the matter right now.


And saying I'm not really concerned about what the EU does
doesn't play into this discussion, right?





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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
Doesn't matter who sells me the technology, the mission is what's important.

Then you really do need to see that movie, Gamorrah. As the man said My 
job is making things simple for businesses.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread Eric S. Sande
Then you really do need to see that movie, Gamorrah. As the man 
said My job is making things simple for businesses.


As far as acting like Jesus would, OK, I've got that.

If you think I didn't you wouldn't have posted.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
As far as acting like Jesus would, OK, I've got that.

I guess you did not see the trailer. The only connection the Gomorrah has 
with Jesus is when they shake down priests.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread Jeff Wright
 It is quite
 likely that at some point the product will be abandoned for something
 more profitable or changed to do obnoxious things to its users
 (draconian
 DRM etc.).

Hey now.  We're not talking about iTunes.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread Eric S. Sande

Right book wrong Testament.  Also a couple of thousand years difference.


Clearly we have a theological problem, Reverend.  I'm sure
you can separate God and Ceasar and educate this heathan.

May the Lord protect us from ignorance.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Remember render unto Caesar what is Caesar and to God what is God's.

Makes things run smoother.

Stewart


At 08:51 PM 3/14/2009, you wrote:

Right book wrong Testament.  Also a couple of thousand years difference.


Clearly we have a theological problem, Reverend.  I'm sure
you can separate God and Ceasar and educate this heathan.

May the Lord protect us from ignorance.


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
Ozark, AL  SL 82


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread Tony B
I sure thought so as I read this ridiculous thread today. But I put it
away, and cranked up some tunes.

But WAIT. WMP is NOT putting out sound! WTF? The seek bar is moving,
and the visualizations are playing. VLC is playing the song. I'm
puzzled as I swear regular mp3's played just fine in WMP the last time
I tried it. I've always preferred it because it comes with the
built-in 3D sound.

I'm really sorry to actually post something on topic though. Has
anyone else tried WMP today? Perhaps a recent update has killed it?


On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Eric S. Sande esa...@erols.com wrote:
 Clearly we have a theological problem, Reverend.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread Eric S. Sande

I'm really sorry to actually post something on topic though. Has
anyone else tried WMP today? Perhaps a recent update has killed it?


LOL.  No it works fine.  Just a little policy disagreement. Continue
as normal, sorry for the interruption.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-14 Thread Tony B
Well, I've since powered down and rebooted. Still WMP has no sound
from mp3s. Most odd.


On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Eric S. Sande esa...@erols.com wrote:
 I'm really sorry to actually post something on topic though. Has
 anyone else tried WMP today? Perhaps a recent update has killed it?

 LOL.  No it works fine.  Just a little policy disagreement. Continue
 as normal, sorry for the interruption.


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[CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-13 Thread Tourbus Rider Stuart Carlow
Sometimes when playing a .wmv file using Windows Media Player 11, I get no 
sound at all (although if I play the same file using VLC media player the sound 
works fine).? And sometimes I do get sound.? Any solutions to this puzzle so 
that audio will always work?? Thanks in advance.
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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-13 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Update codecs.

Stewart


At 08:16 PM 3/13/2009, you wrote:
Sometimes when playing a .wmv file using Windows Media Player 11, I 
get no sound at all (although if I play the same file using VLC 
media player the sound works fine).? And sometimes I do get sound.? 
Any solutions to this puzzle so that audio will always work?? Thanks 
in advance.

--Stu


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player sound

2009-03-13 Thread Eric S. Sande
Sometimes when playing a .wmv file using Windows Media Player 11, I get no 
sound at all (although if I play the same file using VLC media player the 
sound works fine).? And sometimes I do get sound.? Any solutions to this 
puzzle so that audio will always work?? Thanks in advance.

--Stu


Any consistency as to the the files that do/don't play?  Or does it
appear random?  What platform are you using?

WMP 11 is pretty robust for .wav, but I've not tried it with .wmv.

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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player question

2008-10-19 Thread Stephen Brownfield
My friend also has a hearing problem.  Maybe instead of trying slow the 
file down, we can play with the tone adjustments. I'll let you know if 
that works.


Steve


Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

That is a good point.

I have hearing problems, and I have a hard time hearing certain ranges 
of voice.


Certain radio stations (sometimes NPR) and some books on tape use 
speakers whose voice range is in the lower end which makes it hard for 
me to always understand what they are saying.  (I have to turn the 
bass way down in my car and that sucks!)


I think a good machine with a good tone adjustment would help a lot.

Stewart


At 08:18 PM 10/18/2008, you wrote:

Good Luck. An awful lot of work. What I've been wondering is why this
person has trouble comprehending speech at normal speed? When you talk
to them, do they ask you to slow down?

My point being, perhaps the speed isn't the problem at all.


On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Stephen Brownfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tony,
Yeah, to do it easily would be nice, but my original post 
stated: Is
 there a way to do this with Windows Media Player?  If not, do you 
have any
 other ideas? Audacity is another idea.   I'll try it and see if 
does what

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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player question

2008-10-18 Thread Steve Rigby

On Oct 17, 2008, at 8:13 PM, Stephen Brownfield wrote:


Steve,
What is the Mac program?


  Here are two links, the first to The Amazing Slow Downer which  
will do exactly what you are looking for, though only on the  
Macintosh, and the second is Praat, actually a lingusitics  
application that may or may not work for your purposes although it  
does run on Windows as well as Mac.


http://www.ronimusic.com/amsldox.htm

http://www.fon.hum.uva.nl/praat/

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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player question

2008-10-18 Thread Stephen Brownfield

Tony,
Yeah, to do it easily would be nice, but my original post 
stated: Is there a way to do this with Windows Media Player?  If not, 
do you have any other ideas? Audacity is another idea.   I'll try it 
and see if does what he wants.  If it does, then I'll see if I can teach 
him to use it.


Steve


Tony B wrote:

Well, pretty much *any* audio editing app will do it. But that wasn't
the question. I mean, you can't load an entire multipart audiobook
into Audacity and listen to it. Not easily, anyway.



On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Stephen Brownfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Thanks. That is what I needed to know.


Tom Piwowar wrote:


The pitch of the audio will likely also have to be controlled so  that it
does not become difficult to understand as the speed is slowed  down.  I
know of a Mac application that handles both the playback  speed as well as
the pitch, but I know nothing of such for Windows.



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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player question

2008-10-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

That is a good point.

I have hearing problems, and I have a hard time hearing certain 
ranges of voice.


Certain radio stations (sometimes NPR) and some books on tape use 
speakers whose voice range is in the lower end which makes it hard 
for me to always understand what they are saying.  (I have to turn 
the bass way down in my car and that sucks!)


I think a good machine with a good tone adjustment would help a lot.

Stewart


At 08:18 PM 10/18/2008, you wrote:

Good Luck. An awful lot of work. What I've been wondering is why this
person has trouble comprehending speech at normal speed? When you talk
to them, do they ask you to slow down?

My point being, perhaps the speed isn't the problem at all.


On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Stephen Brownfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tony,
Yeah, to do it easily would be nice, but my original post 
stated: Is

 there a way to do this with Windows Media Player?  If not, do you have any
 other ideas? Audacity is another idea.   I'll try it and see if does what
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[CGUYS] Windows Media Player question

2008-10-17 Thread Stephen Brownfield
A friend of mine, who is blind, would like to slow down the speed of his 
MP3s (mostly audio books).  Is there a way to do this with Windows Media 
Player?  If not do you have any other ideas? He is running Windows XP.

Thanks

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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player question

2008-10-17 Thread gerald
you would need some program to fit in spaces, otherwise the frequency of the 
audio drops.  sort of like an old vinyl starting up.  
mooo..up.  they make one that speeds up speech by 
cutting out pieces of the advertisement.

At 07:05 PM 10/17/2008, you wrote:
A friend of mine, who is blind, would like to slow down the speed of his MP3s 
(mostly audio books).  Is there a way to do this with Windows Media Player?  
If not do you have any other ideas? He is running Windows XP.
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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player question

2008-10-17 Thread db
Consumer based audio players do not do what you are looking for. Not 
sure about e reader software.


Specialized audio transcription software are made to do that.  Not sure 
if it supports your file  type but you can google around to find out.


db

gerald wrote:

you would need some program to fit in spaces, otherwise the frequency of the 
audio drops.  sort of like an old vinyl starting up.  
mooo..up.  they make one that speeds up speech by 
cutting out pieces of the advertisement.

At 07:05 PM 10/17/2008, you wrote:
  

A friend of mine, who is blind, would like to slow down the speed of his MP3s 
(mostly audio books).  Is there a way to do this with Windows Media Player?  If 
not do you have any other ideas? He is running Windows XP.
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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player question

2008-10-17 Thread Steve Rigby

On Oct 17, 2008, at 7:05 PM, Stephen Brownfield wrote:

A friend of mine, who is blind, would like to slow down the speed of  
his MP3s (mostly audio books).  Is there a way to do this with  
Windows Media Player?  If not do you have any other ideas? He is  
running Windows XP.

Thanks


  The pitch of the audio will likely also have to be controlled so  
that it does not become difficult to understand as the speed is slowed  
down.  I know of a Mac application that handles both the playback  
speed as well as the pitch, but I know nothing of such for Windows.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player question

2008-10-17 Thread Stephen Brownfield

Steve,
 What is the Mac program?
Thanks

Steve B



Steve Rigby wrote:

On Oct 17, 2008, at 7:05 PM, Stephen Brownfield wrote:

A friend of mine, who is blind, would like to slow down the speed of 
his MP3s (mostly audio books).  Is there a way to do this with 
Windows Media Player?  If not do you have any other ideas? He is 
running Windows XP.

Thanks


  The pitch of the audio will likely also have to be controlled so 
that it does not become difficult to understand as the speed is slowed 
down.  I know of a Mac application that handles both the playback 
speed as well as the pitch, but I know nothing of such for Windows.


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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player question

2008-10-17 Thread Stephen Brownfield

Thanks. That is what I needed to know.


Tom Piwowar wrote:
The pitch of the audio will likely also have to be controlled so  
that it does not become difficult to understand as the speed is slowed  
down.  I know of a Mac application that handles both the playback  
speed as well as the pitch, but I know nothing of such for Windows.



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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player question

2008-10-17 Thread Tony B
Well, pretty much *any* audio editing app will do it. But that wasn't
the question. I mean, you can't load an entire multipart audiobook
into Audacity and listen to it. Not easily, anyway.



On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Stephen Brownfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks. That is what I needed to know.


 Tom Piwowar wrote:

 The pitch of the audio will likely also have to be controlled so  that it
 does not become difficult to understand as the speed is slowed  down.  I
 know of a Mac application that handles both the playback  speed as well as
 the pitch, but I know nothing of such for Windows.


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Re: [CGUYS] Computer Fatal Crash again (was: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player)

2008-08-31 Thread Richard P.
The computer fatally crashed again last night so that will need to be
addressed first. The XP SP2 system was reinstalled 2 weeks ago for the
same error where Windows couldn't find a file. Should I be
looking at the hardrive this time? Can the hard drive be tested
without an operating system?

Thanks,

Richard P.

 Tony B  wrote:
 So does my test file play in VLC?

 Maybe try updating to WMP11:
 http://www.download.com/Windows-Media-Player/3000-2139_4-10315038.html


 Richard P. wrote:
 Follow up: This link also failed so I think we can rule out the
 original website in question. Is it possible that this could be a
 localized issue? The laptop also has the same issue opening up the
 original link as does the desktop. I don't know if a router or ISP
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Re: [CGUYS] Computer Fatal Crash again (was: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player)

2008-08-31 Thread mike
Usually the hard drive manufacturer has tools that you can download to test
their hardware.  You can also find spinrite online and try that.

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Richard P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The computer fatally crashed again last night so that will need to be
 addressed first. The XP SP2 system was reinstalled 2 weeks ago for the
 same error where Windows couldn't find a file. Should I be
 looking at the hardrive this time? Can the hard drive be tested
 without an operating system?

 Thanks,

 Richard P.

  Tony B  wrote:
  So does my test file play in VLC?
 
  Maybe try updating to WMP11:
  http://www.download.com/Windows-Media-Player/3000-2139_4-10315038.html
 
 
  Richard P. wrote:
  Follow up: This link also failed so I think we can rule out the
  original website in question. Is it possible that this could be a
  localized issue? The laptop also has the same issue opening up the
  original link as does the desktop. I don't know if a router or ISP
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[CGUYS] Windows Media Player

2008-08-27 Thread Richard P.
I'm dealing with a relative's computer (from long distance), which is
having trouble playing a Windows Media File through a link. When the
link is clicked on, an image briefly appears and then disappears,
leaving a small black Media Player screen. His Windows Media Player
will play a DVD OK. The problem shows up on both his laptop and
desktop, and it occurs using Internet Explorer or Firefox. I can
access and play the video on my computer with either browser.

Windows XP SP2
IE 7
Firefox 3
Embarq DSL

I'd appreciate any ideas on this. Thanks in advance.

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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player

2008-08-27 Thread Tony B
*) Have them download and install VLC. This comes with several codecs
and may allow WMP to play the file.
*) If possible, have them download the file and try playing it with VLC.
*) We could give more precise help if you'd given us a link to the video.

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Richard P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm dealing with a relative's computer (from long distance), which is
 having trouble playing a Windows Media File through a link. When the
 link is clicked on, an image briefly appears and then disappears,
 leaving a small black Media Player screen. His Windows Media Player
 will play a DVD OK. The problem shows up on both his laptop and
 desktop, and it occurs using Internet Explorer or Firefox. I can
 access and play the video on my computer with either browser.

 Windows XP SP2
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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player

2008-08-27 Thread Richard P.
I just tried VLC but am unable to make the link play using VLC. It
defaults to Windows Media Player. VLC doesn't show up in the list of
Program Access and Defaults.

As for the direct link, it is a password protected site so I'm unable
to send out a link. I also don't see a way of saving the file locally
to work with. FYI, the link is a .wmv file.

Any ideas on my getting the link to play through VLC?

Thanks,

Richard P.

Tony B wrote:
 *) Have them download and install VLC. This comes with several codecs
 and may allow WMP to play the file.
 *) If possible, have them download the file and try playing it with VLC.
 *) We could give more precise help if you'd given us a link to the video.

 Richard P. wrote:
 I'm dealing with a relative's computer (from long distance), which is
 having trouble playing a Windows Media File through a link. When the
 link is clicked on, an image briefly appears and then disappears,
 leaving a small black Media Player screen. His Windows Media Player
 will play a DVD OK. The problem shows up on both his laptop and
 desktop, and it occurs using Internet Explorer or Firefox. I can
 access and play the video on my computer with either browser.

 Windows XP SP2
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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player

2008-08-27 Thread Tony B
No clue. But if it's so protected that a right-click Save target as
doesn't work, then I'd check the site for bug reports (I assume it's a
forum? Others must have had the problem), and contact the admins if I
couldn't find a solution.

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Richard P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just tried VLC but am unable to make the link play using VLC. It
 defaults to Windows Media Player. VLC doesn't show up in the list of
 Program Access and Defaults.

 As for the direct link, it is a password protected site so I'm unable
 to send out a link. I also don't see a way of saving the file locally
 to work with. FYI, the link is a .wmv file.

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Re: [CGUYS] Windows Media Player

2008-08-27 Thread Richard P.
It's part of an instructional and testing website. It doesn't offer
the Save target as option. I will contact the web guru and see if
that helps. Thanks for your help.

Richard P.


Tony B  wrote:
 No clue. But if it's so protected that a right-click Save target as
 doesn't work, then I'd check the site for bug reports (I assume it's a
 forum? Others must have had the problem), and contact the admins if I
 couldn't find a solution.

 wrote:
 I just tried VLC but am unable to make the link play using VLC. It
 defaults to Windows Media Player. VLC doesn't show up in the list of
 Program Access and Defaults.

 As for the direct link, it is a password protected site so I'm unable
 to send out a link. I also don't see a way of saving the file locally
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