[CTRL] Government Had Intelligence Suggesting Oklahoma City Attack Weeks Before McVeigh Struck
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[CTRL] The Forgotten Exodus
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[CTRL] An Interesting Article that appeared in Macleans...
-Caveat Lector- Headline: THE NEW NEW WORLD ORDER Section: Cover Publication Date: 2003/01/27 By: Your Comments: - URL: http://www.macleans.ca/xta-asp/storyview.asp?viewtype=browsetpl=browse_framevpath=/2003/01/27/Cover/78713.shtml A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Between the religious Right and the unreligious Left
are being killed, maimed, enslaved, and subjugated as never before in our history. It has been said, Israel is the canary in the mineshaft. This adage refers to the practice of miners who took caged canaries into the mines with them. If the canaries died, it meant the shafts were filling with lethal gases and the miners needed to get out, or they would die next. Their lesson should not be lost on us. It is not solely the State of Israel we are watching; it is the Jewish people, who are increasingly being forced to live and work behind barriers or in buildings unmarked by symbols of Jewry. At the moment, most people choose to ignore the dimensions of the peril. But it is nevertheless real. And if Israel and the Jewish people are the canaries, the situation for evangelicals is not much better. We stand precariously close to the cage. In 1968, Eric Hoffer, the longshoreman-turned-philosopher, said this: I have a premonition that will not leave me; as it goes with Israel so will it go with all of us. Should Israel perish, the Holocaust will be upon us. What's Wrong With the Religious Right? Let's put it another way. What's wrong with the people of the unreligious Left who presume to cast conscientious fellow citizens as potential terrorists and political outlaws? Yes. I think that question reads much better. The writer is a prominent Christian author and syndicated radio broadcaster in the US, as well as on JPost Radio. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/Show Fullcid=1042515742684 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Official Palestinian TV: Afflict the Jews
-Caveat Lector- The Zionist Organization of America Jacob Libby Goodman ZOA House Phone: 212-481-1500 4 East 34th St. New York, NY 10016 Fax: 212-481-1515 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Web Site: http:www.zoa.org December 11, 2002 Contact: (212-481-1500) In Violation of Bush's Conditions Palestinian Authority TV Urges Muslims To Afflict The Jews NEW YORK- Official Palestinian Authority Television has appealed to Muslims to afflict the Jews --yet another blatant violation of the conditions that President Bush established in his June 24, 2002 speech. President Bush said in his June 24 speech that the Palestinian Arabs must end incitement to violence in official media. A new report by the Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) has found that during the five months since President Bush's major Middle East policy speech, the Palestinian Arabs have not fulfilled any of the conditions that the president set forth before the U.S. will support creation of a Palestinian Arab state. For a free copy of the ZOA's report, call the ZOA at 212-481-1500. Palestinian Media Watch reports that on December 6, 2002, official PA Television broadcast a religious sermon by Dr. Mustafa Najem in which he said: The Jews...are the brothers of monkeys and pigs...Allah has warned us against their evil and their arrogance, and has said: 'You will find that the most brazen among mankind, with hatred towards the believers, are the Jews and the Idolaters.' [Koran, 81,5]...The Jews are Jews, and we are forbidden to forget their character traits even for a moment, even for a blink of an eye. O [Muslims] Servants of Allah! The Jews are those who tried to murder your Prophet in order to expunge the call [to Islam]. It is no wonder that it has been legitimized [for them] to kill and slaughter us...Allah said against the Jews and the Idolators 'your Lord has declared that he will surely send against them [Jews] until Resurrection, those [Arabs and Muslims] who will afflict them with terrible torment.' Prayer and blessing to the Imam of the Jihad fighters, Mohammed, who waged a Jihad against the Jews...The Jews...are Idolaters, heretics, whose faith is false...It is not unusual for the Jews, nor uncharacteristic of their traits, or their ancestry, or their wild behavior, what they are doing. Slaughter after slaughter, invasion after invasion this has been the custom of the Jews throughout the generations and the ages. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Violence and Islam
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[CTRL] Religion of Peace? Prove it.
Muslims to Jews in Weimar Germany. But you can hear crickets chirp or, at best, you can read torpid boilerplate, when it comes time to denounce Muslim atrocities. By the way, I'm outraged by the Germany comparison not as a Jew but as an American. There isn't a scintilla of validity to the insinuation that America has been anything but the antithesis of what Hooper and self-pitying whiners claim. According to the very FBI statistics they cite, twice as many Jews as Muslims were the victims of hate crimes in the United States since 19 Muslim fanatics murdered 3,000 Americans on 9/11. And, by the way, if a Jew used those numbers in order to justify saying America feels like Weimar Germany I would call him an idiot who should be ashamed of himself for slandering America (and demeaning the Holocaust as well). The fact is that, while even one crime is too many, the post-9/11 backlash against Muslims in America has been astoundingly mild by historical standards. Compared to what happened to German-Americans during WWI or Japanese-Americans in WWII it barely even warrants an asterisk in the history books. Oh, and speaking of denouncing fellow Jews, I've done it plenty of times. For example, when Irv Rubin of the JDL was arrested for plotting a terrorist attack I denounced him in the strongest possible terms, as did pretty much every prominent Jewish figure in America within 48 hours. (See Jeff Jacoby's excellent column from December 20, 2001. You need to scroll down.) I bring this up not to brag about my consistency but to make the point that it's important not to let others speak in your name if you disagree with what they're saying. Especially when they're saying it with bombs and guns. I will have a lot more sympathy for the complaints of Muslim activists once they put even a fraction of the energy they dedicate to portraying themselves as victims of bigoted America or Europe toward policing and condemning their own co-religionists. If they're afraid for their personal safety or even their lives not an unreasonable fear that's no excuse. Al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, and the rest may constitute hijackers in the cockpit of a peaceful religion, but they will define Islam if the folks in the main cabin don't fight the hijackers. That's what happened with Nazis in Germany, and that's what will happen with militant Islam if non-militant Islam continues to insist that its biggest enemies are the open and tolerant nations of the West that gave them the opportunity to live decent lives in freedom. If they persist in that complaint, nobody will be able to justly blame average Americans for scoffing at the suggestion that Islam means peace. http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg120402.asp A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [www.washtimes.com] The Sting
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] has sent you an article from The Washington Times. --- U.N. TEAM SETS TRAP IN BAGHDAD Nicholas Kralev THE WASHINGTON TIMES --- The innocuous initial U.N. inspections in Iraq are part of a strategy designed to catch Baghdad if it is lying about its weapons stockpile, former inspectors and arms control analysts said yesterday. The team currently in Iraq has been visiting known sites so far, to no surprise of President Saddam Hussein. As expected, the U.N. experts have found nothing that constitutes material breach, the term used in Security Council Resolution 1441. But after Baghdad declares its warfare capabilities this weekend, the inspectors will most likely target facilities that Western intelligence has detected without Iraq's knowledge, which would expose any omissions in Saddam's list. After the declaration, the inspectors will be comparing notes from intelligence, from what they see on the ground and what they are hearing in interviews with Iraqi scientists who have been involved in the weapons programs and look for discrepancies, said Daryl Kimball, executive director of the Arms Control Association. Iraq is required by Resolution 1441 to present a full account of its exotic arms capabilities by Sunday. It said this week it would do so a day earlier, but insisted again that it does not have weapons of mass destruction. The declaration will be critical, and if they really maintain that they have no weapons, it will not be credible, said Jonathan Tucker, a former inspector in Iraq, now a senior fellow at the U.S. Institute of Peace. Raymond Zilinskas, another ex-inspector, said there is no point in visiting undeclared sites before the list is made available, because the Iraqis will have time to put in the declaration. The serious stage of the inspections will begin after the list is analyzed, noted Mr. Zilinskas, who currently directs the Chemical and Biological Weapons Nonproliferation Program at the Monterey Institute of International Studies in California. The Iraqi government yesterday began to sense the U.N. team's strategy, accusing its members of being U.S. and Israeli spies and helping Washington prepare for war. The inspectors have come to provide better circumstances and more precise information for a coming aggression, said Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan. From Day One, their foremost work was spying. Their work was spying for the CIA and [Israel´s intelligence service] Mossad together. But Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, echoing comments by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Tuesday, said the United States was absolutely sure Iraq does possess weapons of mass destruction and has continued to develop them. The burden is on them to prove that they don't have, he said during a visit to Colombia. If they do have, they had better acknowledge it and make those programs accessible to the U.N. inspection teams. The White House called on the United Nations yesterday to send more inspectors to Iraq so they can start multiple and more intensive searches at more than one site at a time. While not disputing the need to increase the inspectors' number, Mr. Zilinskas said they have been remarkably productive in the week they have been on the ground. He pointed out that they have visited seven suspected nuclear sites and five missile sites, as well as two suspected biological and two chemical facilities. They also have been to a presidential palace and the sensitive headquarters of a defense unit, which were off limits during previous inspections. Mr. Tucker conceded the team has done a good job and said he has been pleasantly surprised by the level of Iraq's cooperation. But he warned that the real test is yet to come, as the first several days have been a training exercise, so the inspectors can adjust to the conditions in Iraq and the behavior of the locals they are dealing with. My experience was that the Iraqis were very polite and superficially cooperative when we were visiting sites they had nothing to hide in, but their behavior changed once we went to a sensitive site, he said. Mr. Zilinskas said the team this time is different. Its members are U.N. employees rather than working for a national government, so their primary loyalty is to an international organization. They have no experience in Iraq, although he said they were trained by some of the toughest former inspectors there. In terms of technical capabilities, the current team is still limited, Mr. Zilinskas said. Its predecessor had a U-2 spy aircraft that helped keep an eye on the ground, in case the Iraqis tried to move hardware from one facility to another. They don't have these capabilities yet, but they will when the serious inspections start, he said. Mr. Tucker said another difference is that last time there were monitoring and visiting teams
[CTRL] [www.washtimes.com] Implosion
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] has sent you an article from The Washington Times. --- BESET JEWISH STATE IS LOSING EDGE --- THE WASHINGTON TIMES LONDON A leading Israeli research institute warns in a report being released today that the Jewish state beset by Palestinian attacks and a dismal economy is rapidly losing its military edge over the Arab world. This is an ominous trend, said Uzi Arad, director of the prestigious Institute of Policy and Strategy and an author of the report. The report says the decline stems mainly from the deployment of the country's military resources to combat internal terrorism instead of acquiring weaponry and in preparing for attacks by other countries in the region. While the Israeli public is withstanding the continuous assaults on its personal security remarkably well, the overall results suggest a decline in Israel's position relative to Israel's adversaries over the past two years, Mr. Arad said in remarks accompanying the report. The decline in Israel's relative strength vis-a-vis its potential enemies has come about since the year 2000, and reverses a trend of increasing superiority that had been developing over the previous decade, the report says. The report was prepared for a conference of the country's top military planners in the coastal city of Herzliya that opens today. The conference is supported by, among others, the National Security Council in the prime minister's office, and the offices of the ministers of defense and foreign affairs. --- This article was mailed from The Washington Times (http://www.washtimes.com/world/20021202-73695336.htm) For more great articles, visit us at http://www.washtimes.com Copyright (c) 2002 News World Communications, Inc. All rights reserved. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [www.washtimes.com] Un-Study ?
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] has sent you an article from The Washington Times. --- STUDY ON U.S. JEWS WITHHELD Rachel Zoll ASSOCIATED PRESS --- PHILADELPHIA It was supposed to be an important moment in American Judaism. Jewish leaders from around the country had booked themselves into a posh hotel near Philadelphia's historic district for the week before Hanukkah, expecting to hear results of a $6 million, multiyear study of U.S. Jews. The findings could be critical, shaping how tens of millions of dollars will be spent to keep Judaism alive in the United States at a time when many Jews are marrying outside the faith. Then, just before its release, the report was withheld. The survey's technical advisers now are in a bitter public fight with the nonprofit agency directing the project, and critics are wondering if the group is trying to bury bad news. The agency, United Jewish Communities, insists its National Jewish Population Survey is on track and will be made public though it won't say when. There's no smoking gun here, said Stephen Hoffman, the agency president. Based upon what I've been told, the study is fundamentally sound. But some say the delay has undermined the credibility of the report even before it's out. They've inflicted a major blow to themselves, said Egon Mayer, academic director of the North American Jewish Data Bank and a technical adviser for the study. It boggles my mind. The survey tracks key trends including intermarriage, links to Israel and observances of religious rituals. The report is perhaps best known for its 1990 finding that 52 percent of Jews marry non-Jews. The 2000 study originally was supposed to be released more than a year ago, but researchers said it was hard to find people willing to participate. The date was pushed back and speculation grew that the survey was in trouble. Some preliminary results were released last month, including a finding that the U.S. Jewish population had dropped over the last decade, from 5.5 million to 5.2 million. Then, a week before the United Jewish Communities General Assembly and announcement of the remaining results, an angry Mr. Hoffman said he had learned that critical data had been lost and he was postponing the release until he could assess the damage. He said the information apparently had gone missing two years ago in the offices of Roper ASW, the firm that conducted the field work, but Mr. Hoffman had only just been told. Vivian Klaff, one of the top technical advisers, accused Mr. Hoffman of overreacting and insisted the data was not critical. Mr. Klaff said the missing information was coded material that had been collected to see if someone qualified to participate in the survey. Just a portion of that data was gone and adjustments could be made to compensate for the loss, he said. The respondents' answers to questions remain intact. Mr. Klaff said he sent Mr. Hoffman a letter saying please don't do this, and asking him to release the report on schedule. But Mr. Hoffman said he had lost confidence in the leadership of the technical team. He has appointed a task force to investigate. Roper ASW won't discuss the mishap, but the battle between Mr. Hoffman and his advisers and the last-minute delay raised suspicions at the assembly last week that the missing data were the least of the study's problems. I'm hearing people asking, 'What's really going on?' said Eva Goldfinger, as she worked a booth for the International Federation for Secular Humanist Jews, which has criticized the survey for too narrowly defining who is a Jew. Why did they suddenly hold it back? Did they not like the results? --- This article was mailed from The Washington Times (http://www.washtimes.com/national/20021130-89243881.htm) For more great articles, visit us at http://www.washtimes.com Copyright (c) 2002 News World Communications, Inc. All rights reserved. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives
[CTRL] Check out this page on Cleveland.com
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[CTRL] [www.washtimes.com] Historical Hyperbole Hollowed
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] has sent you an article from The Washington Times. --- PAINTED IN COLORS TOO STARK Patrick J. Buchanan --- As two . . . sitting senators who served in World War II, we see the next Hitler in Saddam Hussein. So write Ted Stevens and John Warner in a column titled, Hitler's Disciple in Baghdad, in The Washington Times. And they recall for us the history of the run-up to that war: Hitler ignored the surrender agreements after World War I. He flaunted [sic] the Versailles peace treaty and the League of Nations, which was formed to maintain world peace. A modest dissent: Germany did not surrender in World War I. It agreed to an armistice on Wilson's 14 Points, laid down its arms, and sent its High Seas Fleet to the British base at Scapa Flow. And Versailles was no agreement. It was a Carthaginian peace, a dictat, imposed on a disarmed Germany at the point of a million bayonets, during a starvation blockade. Germany was told if it did not sign the treaty that stripped it of a tenth of its land and 8 million people, Marshal Foch would march on Berlin. Any law student will tell you a contract signed at the point of a gun is invalid. Indeed, Hitler first won power democratically on a pledge to overthrow the Versailles regime, which, as America and Britain had come to recognize by 1933, had been as unwise as it was unjust. Hitler did walk out of the League of Nations. But leaving was no more a crime than America's refusal to join in 1919. Not a few Senate Republicans in 1919 believed the League of Nations had been set up to preserve, not world peace, but a British empire that had gobbled up the lion's share of Germany's colonies after a war America had fought to make the world safe for democracy. Hitler's decision to rearm Germany was a breach of Versailles, but his decision to build a navy one-third the size of the Royal Navy was happily assented to by the British government in negotiations. [Hitler] occupied the Rhineland and invaded Austria. No one tried to stop him, write Messrs. Stevens and Warner. True, Hitler's remilitarization of the Rhineland was a breach of Versailles and the Locarno Pact he had agreed to honor. But if France did not think German soldiers on German soil west of the Rhine was worth a war, why should America, which had rejected Versailles and was never a party to Locarno? As for the Anschluss with Austria, no one tried to stop Hitler in 1938. But in 1934, when Nazi thugs murdered Chancellor Dollfuss and attempted a coup, someone did. Mussolini sent troops to the Brenner Pass, flew to Vienna in a show of solidarity with Austria, and invited the British and French to Stresa, Italy, to join in a united front to force Hitler to abide by Versailles and Locarno. Mussolini, however, thought he had gotten Allied approval to avenge Italy's 1896 defeat at Adowa in Abyssinia, modern-day Ethiopia. But when he invaded Haile Selassie's slave empire, London and Paris put League of Nations morality and moral clarity ahead of vital interests and led the League of Nations in imposing sanctions on their Stresa partner. Thus, when Hitler sent troops into the Rhineland in 1936, and Paris and London sought Italy's support, Mussolini, sanctioned and insulted by his old friends, had found a new one in Berlin. In September of 1939, the world watched him invade Poland, the senators write. Not so. Stalin joined Hitler in the invasion and brutally occupied eastern Poland. Britain and France declared war. Why? Because they had rashly and insanely given war guarantees to the Warsaw regime of the dissolute Col. Beck, who had collaborated with Hitler in the rape of Czechoslovakia. The forgotten truths of 1919-1939? Munich was not the only, nor even the worst blunder. Versailles had made another war inevitable. Britain should have put moral clarity on the shelf and looked out for its vital interests first. Its war guarantee to Poland did not save Poland, it only turned Hitler to the west. Thus, Western Europe was overrun, 50 million people perished, and Stalin emerged triumphant with 10 more Christian countries enslaved. We see the next Hitler in Saddam, write Messrs. Stevens and Warner. Well, let's see. Hitler conquered all of Europe from the Arctic to the Aegean and from the Atlantic to Stalingrad. And Saddam? He invaded Kuwait, a sandbox half the size of Denmark, and got tossed out after a 100-hour ground war. His country has been overflown 40,000 times by U.S. and British planes and he has not been able to shoot a single plane down. He has no navy, a fourth-rate air force, a shrunken, demoralized army. His economy is not 1 percent of ours. No, senators, this is not the Fuhrer and the Republican Guard is not the Wehrmacht. As Marx said, history repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as farce. #149; IPatrick J. Buchanan is a former White House
[CTRL] [www.washtimes.com] History As An Emotional Consequence
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] has sent you an article from The Washington Times. --- RUE BRITANNIA: DIANA'S DEATH TOPS POLL Peter Almond UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL --- LONDON Britain's reputation as a land steeped in an appreciation of history has taken a hit with the publication of an opinion poll on what its masses consider the most important events of the past 100 years. The top of the list of momentous events in British history excluded both World Wars, the collapse of the British Empire and the rise of the Beatles to stardom. Instead, Britons said the death of Princess Diana five years ago today was the most significant event. This is a pretty shocking result, said Nick Barrett, historian and consultant to the UK History Channel, a British offshoot of the U.S. cable TV channel, which commissioned the poll. How Princess Diana's death gets rated the most significant event in British history in the past 100 years defeats me. But it shows how the impact of historical events is skewed toward more recent events where people's personal experiences come into play and particularly if they are recorded as moving images. The same phenomenon clearly influenced a question on world history, in which the respondents ranked the September 11 terrorist attacks on the United States as more significant than the dropping of an atomic bomb on Hiroshima, Japan, in 1945, or Neil Armstrong's landing on the moon in 1969. Age clearly affected the poll, as those with longer memories lent greater significance to more distant events. For instance, while 41 percent of all respondents said the September 11 attacks were the most important event in world history, only 28 percent of those older than 65 thought so. At the History Channel's U.S. headquarters in New York, Executive Vice President Abbe Raven said Americans were probably not that different from the British in their attitudes toward history. People look at history very much as it relates to their own lives, so more recent events will take on greater personal value, she said. Many of the events have moving pictures, which help with recollection. I think Americans would move [the assassination of President] Kennedy higher up the list, and the moon walk without question. Nelson Mandela would probably come down a bit, and I think the Oklahoma bombing might well replace the Lockerbie disaster. --- This article was mailed from The Washington Times (http://www.washtimes.com/world/20020831-22077556.htm) For more great articles, visit us at http://www.washtimes.com Copyright (c) 2002 News World Communications, Inc. All rights reserved. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] has sent you an article from The Washington Times. --- MAKING EXCUSES FOR A WAR WITH IRAQ? Steve Chapman CREATORS SYNDICATE --- In the usual sequence, a nation is presented with a powerful cause for war and then proceeds to fight. After September 11, Americans didn't need tortured explanations of why the United States should invade Afghanistan. But in the case of Iraq, the Bush administration began by making plans to get rid of Saddam Hussein, and realized only later that it might need to explain why. Judging from Vice President Dick Cheney's recent effort to rally support, it's still groping for a good excuse. Mr. Cheney went before the national convention of the Veterans of Foreign Wars to announce that Saddam Hussein is a bad man who has chemical and biological agents and hopes to develop nuclear weapons as well. Nobody really denies that, but most of the world views the prospect without undue hysteria. The vice president said it would be intolerable for Saddam to expand his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction. Why? Because he is amassing them to use against our friends, our allies, and against us. Once he has nukes, Saddam would seek domination of the entire Middle East, take control of a great portion of the world's energy supplies, directly threaten America's friends throughout the region, and subject the United States or any other nation to nuclear blackmail. But several countries have nuclear weapons, and none has found them very useful in making others do their bidding. Israel hasn't been able to force its neighbors to accept its treatment of the Palestinians. India hasn't coerced Pakistan to give up its claims to Kashmir. China hasn't succeeded in reclaiming Taiwan. The argument is that Saddam is so reckless he would be more successful. But what stops a nuclear power from carrying out a nuclear attack, or attempting nuclear blackmail, is not inborn self-restraint. It's the prospect of nuclear retaliation. What evidence do we have that the Iraqi tyrant is influenced by such piddly considerations? Only his own behavior. We don't have to wonder if he can be deterred from using weapons of mass destruction. He already has been. During the Gulf war, he had chemical and biological weapons that he could have used against Saudi Arabia, against Israel or against U.S. forces. But he knew the United States and Israel had nuclear missiles that could reach Baghdad, and himself. The administration makes much of Saddam's use of poison gas against Iran and against Kurdish insurgents at home. But he did so on the assumption that his opponents couldn't respond with anything comparable. He won't have that assurance if he threatens a nuclear attack on us or our friends. The New Republic magazine heaps contempt on the notion that there is the rational gassing of innocents and the irrational gassing of innocents, preferring to insist that the use of weapons of mass destruction denotes a general derangement. Oh? Was President Truman deranged when he dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? If Saddam were crazy, he would have used his weapons of mass destruction in 1991 rather than swallow a humiliating defeat. It's argued that a nuclear-armed Saddam could invade Kuwait or Saudi Arabia and force the United States to stay out by threatening to vaporize New York. If that strategy were feasible, though, the Soviet Union would have overrun Western Europe during the Cold War. Besides, after more than a decade of economic sanctions, Iraq no longer has the offensive capability to mount any serious military campaign. For that, Saddam would need a lot of tanks, aircraft and other weapons. But as University of Chicago strategist Robert Pape points out, Unlike biological weapons, he can't use tanks if they're buried in the sand. He can use them only if they're out in the open and he conducts training with them. And if he does that, we can easily blow them to pieces before he can use them. If the problem were that Saddam could threaten his neighbors, you would expect his neighbors to be even more worried about him than we are. In fact, nearby countries like Saudi Arabia are among the most vocal opponents of a U.S. invasion. Aside from Israel, other countries in the Middle East see him as no great danger. So why does Saddam want weapons of mass destruction? For their only real function deterring other countries from attacking him. If he had nuclear weapons, the United States would have to drop the idea of invading Iraq to overthrow its government. But if the only value of an Iraqi bomb is Saddam's self-preservation, it's hardly worth going to war over. For months, we've been wondering why the administration has been so reluctant to make the case for invading Iraq. Now we have the answer: Because there isn't one
[CTRL] [www.washtimes.com] Smile! You're on ...
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] has sent you an article from The Washington Times. --- BIG BROTHER WATCHING, WARNS NEW YORK GUIDE --- NEW YORK (AP) As if there weren't enough reasons to look over your shoulder in New York these days, take a walk through Midtown with surveillance-camera tour guide Bill Brown. He'll give you dozens more excuses to be anxious. I'm just an average person who is trying to figure out what is going on in the city I was born in and love, said Mr. Brown, a Brooklyn native. I don't think I'm paranoid I think the people who are paranoid fill the streets with cameras. Part performance artist, part privacy advocate, Mr. Brown, 43, a freelance copy editor, has been giving free walking tours of Manhattan's most camera-dense neighborhoods on Sundays for the past two years. Focusing on such areas as Times Square, Chelsea, Washington Square Park and Fifth Avenue, Mr. Brown tells his tour groups there are roughly 5,000 cameras watching the streets of Manhattan. And those are just the ones he can see. Standing on 16th Street between Eighth and Ninth avenues, he points out 16 cameras some that swivel, some cone-shaped, some encased in boxes. Most are easy to spot. This block is a kind of an open-air museum of different cameras, he said. Mr. Brown says 90 percent of Manhattan's surveillance cameras belong to private companies concerned about protecting property and lower insurance rates. Others, he says, are police cameras such as one at Eighth Avenue and 14th Street, which at first glance looks like a streetlight. Police don't dispute his contention, but won't discuss their methods. Any security-related issues we don't comment on, said Officer John Sullivan, a spokesman. On a recent Sunday, Mr. Brown did a little dance in front of one camera, holding up a copy of the Constitution which he says outlaws such surveillance. He then smacked an eye-level sticker on the pole that read: You Are Being Watched, Surveillance Camera Notice. He went through a similar routine in front of the city's red-light cameras at Ninth Avenue and 20th Street, and yet again outside an office of American District Telegraph, a 130-year-old international electronic-security provider. Robert Volinski, Manhattan sales manager for ADT, is unabashed about surveillance cameras. He says the closed-circuit television monitoring industry is growing by 15 percent a year. Companies install cameras primarily to let employees know someone is watching and to record activity in and around their premises, Mr. Volinski said. I can show you equipment through which you can look in at what's going on at your company's Puerto Rican or California headquarters not to mention your own front door, he said. Mr. Brown's tours, which are free, attract a handful of people. Even on his best days, Mr. Brown said, he draws only about a dozen people. He doesn't advertise, but he does place items in local newspaper calendars and publicizes the tours on his Web site. Pat Volpe of Brooklyn, who signed up for Mr. Brown's tour after seeing his Web site, was dismayed by the surveillance. It's disturbing. It's symptomatic of our civil liberties and privacy being encroached upon, Miss Volpe said. The same tour group included a German television crew, portraying Mr. Brown as a lonely voice of outrage against the USA Patriot Act, a post-September 11 law that broadened government surveillance powers. --- This article was mailed from The Washington Times (http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020819-92356856.htm) For more great articles, visit us at http://www.washtimes.com Copyright (c) 2002 News World Communications, Inc. All rights reserved. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email
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-Caveat Lector- IRAQ: Egypt will not let US warships pass through Suez Canal Att.Editors: The following item is from the Qatar News Agency (QNA) Dr. Oasma Al Baz, political advisor to the Egyptian president, said Egypt will not allow passage through the Suez Canal of US ships headed to strike Iraq. AMMAN,Aug. 17(IPS) - In statements published here Saturday he added Egypt rejects any military operation against Iraq, its territorial unity, independence and safety of Iraqi people, adding any military attack on Iraq represents a vary dangerous step endangering the security of the region. Dr. Al Baz said the question of UN weapons inspectors is an issue which concerns the UN and the Security Council and not Washington and the US has no right to take any military action against Iraq nor has the right to interfere in the internal affairs of another country and impose a set-up of new leadership on its people. (QNA) = 08171520 ORP011 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [www.washtimes.com] slavery reparations
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] has sent you an article from The Washington Times. --- RALLY BACKS SLAVERY REPARATIONS Steve Miller THE WASHINGTON TIMES --- The Rev. Louis Farrakhan, leader of the Nation of Islam, urged blacks yesterday to refuse to fight in a war against Iraq, telling them to focus on getting compensation for the legacy of slavery that ended 137 years ago. The president is getting ready to send black and brown and poor to fight somebody who never called us 'nigger,' Mr. Farrakhan told a rally on the Mall in front of the Capitol. What we have to do is fight for ourselves, and our fight is in America. It seems that America owes black people a lot for what we have endured. We cannot settle for some little jive token. We need millions of acres of land that black people can build. We're not begging white people. We are just demanding what is justly ours. Rep. John Conyers Jr., Michigan Democrat, also attended the rally of 4,000 or so persons, but others prominent in the black civil rights movement did not. The no-shows included the Rev. Jesse Jackson and the Rev. Al Sharpton. The crowd on the Mall could shop for T-shirts, hats and posters focusing on the reparations theme. A black Kill Whitey T-shirt went for $10 from the New Black Panther Party, which provided security for the event. Another T-shirt read: How did we get to America? Heartless Christian Buyer, Ruthless Jewish seller. Speakers told the crowd that slavery, although abolished with the end of the Civil War in 1865, left a legacy of suffering that still afflicts blacks. Radio personality Bev Smith warmed up the crowd welcoming African people and led with several chants of black power. The rally's keynote address was delivered by Mr. Farrakhan, who said the nation's blacks cannot accept a cash payment because a fool and his money are soon parted. We need land as a basis of economic and political independence. The rally with the motto They owe us was assembled with the help of dozens of reparations activist groups and drew people from several states. Many flew in, or rode buses and cars from Newark, Detroit, Los Angeles and Atlanta. I hustled and got here, said Clara Peoples, a longtime reparations advocate from Portland, Ore., who flew in. We're not asking for equality, Miss Peoples said. I just want them to pay a debt. The demonstrators also showed their support for a proposal by Mr. Conyers, who since 1989 has sought to create a commission to study the effects of slavery. But some said they disagree with the demand for reparations. Jean-Marie Jean-Pierre, a quality assurance specialist at NASA and a black Haitian immigrant, said he doesn't approve of the idea of reparations. I don't need them. I came here and I learned English and I got a good college education. This is the land of opportunity. Why does anybody need reparations? --- This article was mailed from The Washington Times (http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020818-8388782.htm) For more great articles, visit us at http://www.washtimes.com Copyright (c) 2002 News World Communications, Inc. All rights reserved. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [www.washtimes.com] ME Sends Immigrants
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] has sent you an article from The Washington Times. --- MIDDLE EAST SENDS MANY IMMIGRANTS Stephen Dinan THE WASHINGTON TIMES --- Middle Eastern immigrants to the United States are among the fastest-growing groups in America, numbering about 1.5 million in the 2000 census and potentially reaching 2.5 million by 2010, according to a new report by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS). There are also 570,000 U.S.-born children of Middle Eastern immigrants, and by 2010 that could grow to 950,000, according to the report, which was based on an analysis of census data. The number of Middle Eastern immigrants is a sevenfold increase over 1970, and one key part of that growth has been a gigantic shift from mostly Christian immigrants to mostly Muslim immigrants, said Steven A. Camarota, the center's director of research. He said in 1970 only 15 percent of immigrants from Middle Eastern nations were Muslim; in 2000, about 75 percent were Muslim. At a forum to discuss the center's report yesterday, Daniel Pipes, director of the Middle East Forum, said about 80 percent of Islamic schools, newspapers, mosques and other institutions subscribe to a militant version of Islam. In its long history of immigration, the United States has never encountered so violent-prone and radicalized a community as the Muslims who have arrived since 1965, he concluded. Stephen Steinlight, a senior fellow at the American Jewish Committee, said the growing Muslim population in the long term could substantially change America's history of support for Israel. Down the road, that's only going to get worse. The battle's going to be joined at a different level, he said. But Hodan Hassan, a spokeswoman for the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), defended the new immigrants' rights. I think you're going to find that people, when they come to this country, are going to have viewpoints that differ with him. When they're going to come, they have every right as American citizens to voice their viewpoints on American foreign policy, she said. Mr. Camarota estimated there are about 3 million Muslims in the United States, with about two-thirds of those being Middle Eastern immigrants or their U.S.-born children and the rest mostly native-born converts. That's less than half the 6 million to 7 million number of Muslims that CAIR and other advocacy groups cite, and far below the upper estimate of 12 million Muslims found in some news reports. It just doesn't comport with everything we see in the demographic files, Mr. Camarota said. The numbers matter, Mr. Steinlight said: As an ethnic group in the United States which as every other group seeks to promote its agendas, the good news in the short to midterm is they're smaller. Ms. Hassan, though, said CAIR stands by its estimate of Muslims. She said CAIR's unique connections to Muslim communities and institutions gives them better information. The CIS report found that Middle East immigrants are less likely to own their home, one in five lives in poverty, and almost 23 percent of households headed by a Middle East immigrant use at least one major welfare program. Still, they tend to be better-educated than native U.S. residents about half hold bachelor's degrees, compared to 28 percent of natives. They also perform as well economically as natives 30- and 40-year-old Middle Eastern males with a college education have the same median income as natives, and Middle East immigrants are more likely be self-employed. Those were encouraging findings, Miss Hassan said, pointing also to the data that showed 55 percent of Middle Eastern immigrants have gained American citizenship significantly more than the 38 percent average for all immigrants. --- This article was mailed from The Washington Times (http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020815-32596104.htm) For more great articles, visit us at http://www.washtimes.com Copyright (c) 2002 News World Communications, Inc. All rights reserved. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http
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inches. And 10920 is the number label for Death, the Pyramid label. (G.P. volume 91,575,000cu.ft reciprocal 1.092001092e-08) But then they dont count. Unless that is they can offer up another sensible and plausible reason for the horrific events of September 11th. JDM Christians should consider Time Markers, for they are the Sign of the Times mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] details of US-Bayer anthrax antibiotics deal
-Caveat Lector- Hi all. Below is details of the deal with Bayer to provide the antibiotic cipro, published by US Dept of HHS. Gary. Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 00:02:35 -0400 Sender: US Dept of HHS: Press Releases, Other Info [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Automatic digest processor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HHSPRESS Digest - 23 Oct 2001 to 24 Oct 2001 (#2001-184) To: Recipients of HHSPRESS digests [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are 2 messages totalling 266 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. HAPPY BIRTHDAY MEDLINE, HAPPY BIRTHDAY MEDLINEPLUS 2. HHS PRESS RELEASE--HHS, BAYER AGREE TO CIPRO PURCHASE first story re: medline deleted --MMPWVLHMAOIHHcddTWObBRACBKFKXd Date:Wed, 24 Oct 2001 14:56:25 -0400 From:Henneghan, Martha (HHS/OS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HHS PRESS RELEASE--HHS, BAYER AGREE TO CIPRO PURCHASE Date: October 24, 2001 For Release: Immediately Contact: HHS Press Office (202) 690-6343 Bayer Corporation (203) 812-6439 Headline: HHS, BAYER AGREE TO CIPRO PURCHASE HHS Secretary Tommy G. Thompson and Mr. Helge H. Wehmeier, president and CEO of the Bayer Corporation, today announced agreement for a significant new federal purchase of the antibiotic ciprofloxacin (trademarked Cipro) at a substantially lowered price. The antibiotic is expected to be available by year end. Supplementing existing emergency stockpiles, it would be available for use in the event of a bioterror event. Under the terms of the agreement valued at $95 million, HHS will pay 95 cents per tablet for a total initial order of 100 million tablets. This compares with a previously discounted price of $1.77 per tablet paid by the federal government. Bayer said it will rotate the government's inventory, as part of this agreement, to assure the American public a continuously fresh supply of Cipro. This inventory rotation adds an additional value of 30 percent for the government, which is included in the agreement. Funds for the purchase are included in the $1.6 billion emergency proposal made by President Bush Oct. 17, which awaits Congressional action. HHS is also carrying out substantial new purchases of other antibiotics that are effective against anthrax, especially doxycycline. The purchases will fulfill Secretary Thompson's proposal to quickly increase the nation's emergency reserve of antibiotics. Resources to be on hand by January would treat up to 12 million persons immediately for anthrax exposure. Treatment would be with a mixture of effective antibiotic products, with Cipro representing about 10 percent of the antibiotics on reserve. Currently, 18.6 million Cipro doses are available in the nation's emergency reserve, which would enable immediate treatment of about 2 million persons in combination with other antibiotics. This agreement means that a much larger supply of this important pharmaceutical product will be available if needed, Secretary Thompson said. The beneficial price also means that we can have more funds available to assist state and local health responders to be ready for all eventualities. I commend the Bayer Corporation for its ongoing efforts to ensure a fully adequate supply of this valuable product. Bayer is fully committed to supplying America in its war on bioterrorism. This agreement between Bayer and the Department of Health and Human Services is an important security measure that will enable the nation to have in its stockpile ample supplies of Cipro to combat the threat of anthrax, said Bayer president Wehmeier. Cipro has become standard for anthrax treatment. The men and women of Bayer are 100 percent committed to delivering this vital antibiotic to the U.S. government on schedule. Secretary Thompson said current supplies of Cipro and other antibiotics which are effective against anthrax are entirely adequate to meet the current need. This purchase is aimed at expanding our emergency stand-by capacity, to make us even better prepared for the possibility of massive exposure to anthrax or other biological agents. As a further contingency, the agreement provides for the option of a second order of 100 million tablets at 85 cents, and a third order at 75 cents, if it is determined that further orders are needed. Cipro is one of many antibiotics that have been found effective in the treatment of exposure to anthrax in the incidents in recent weeks. Current treatment practice for anthrax exposure, including those possibly exposed to anthrax, is a 60-day course, involving initial use of a broad spectrum antibiotic like Cipro, for five days, followed by determination of other antibiotics to which the pathogen is susceptible. The Cipro to be purchased would be used to expand emergency stand-by supplies in the National Pharmaceutical Stockpile (NPS), maintained by HHS' Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The NPS includes both vendor managed inventory and 50-ton Push Packages, designed to be able to reach any point in the continental United
[CTRL] suitable analogy?
-Caveat Lector- It's my impression that the us war against terrorism, centering on destroying al Qaeda, is a bit like the western ruling class/NWO architects having a collective haircut. Seems they are getting yet another oiled crew cut. It's not looked too pretty in the past. Gary. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 9/11 was US national 911 day
-Caveat Lector- on 9/10, a section of NIH (national institutes for health) announced national 911 day, and sent it out on its announce list. with this in light, i'm also interested in answers to buzzsaw readers questions re numerology/masonic significance of 911 also with regard to the emergency number. Gary. For those interested, the full text of that email follows: Subject: HHSPRESS Digest - 6 Sep 2001 to 10 Sep 2001 (#2001-152) --ISeAFaBZCAQCQWaHcTcBCAdIDZaXCI Date:Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:33:58 -0400 From:NIH OLIB (OD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: NATIONAL 9-1-1 DAY: SEPTEMBER 11 (9/11), CITING ALARMING DELAYS I N TREATMENT, NHLBI AND AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION CALL ON PHYSICIANS TO S TRESS NEED FOR SPEED IN CALLING 9-1-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute NIH NEWS RELEASE EMBARGOED FOR RELEASE Monday, September 10, 2001 11:00 a.m. EDT Contact: For copies of editorial, please call (214) 706-1396 For other information, call: Communications Office, NHLBI: (301) 496-4236 Tim Elsner, AHA: (214) 706-1340 NATIONAL 9-1-1 DAY: SEPTEMBER 11 (9/11) CITING ALARMING DELAYS IN TREATMENT, NHLBI AND AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION CALL ON PHYSICIANS TO STRESS NEED FOR SPEED IN CALLING 9-1-1 WASHINGTON, Sept. 10 -- A joint call to action urging physicians to educate their patients about heart attack warning signs - and the importance of calling 9-1-1 immediately - was announced today at a news conference by the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute (NHLBI) and the American Heart Association. NHLBI Director Claude Lenfant, M.D., and American Heart Association President David Faxon, M.D., note that despite life-saving advances in the treatment of heart attack, only a small percentage of patients are getting to the hospital early enough to reap the benefits of that therapy. Writing in an editorial titled, Timing is Everything: Motivating Patients to Call 9-1-1 at the Onset of Acute Myocardial Infarction published in the September 11 issue of Circulation: Journal of the American Heart Association, Lenfant and Faxon note that delay in seeking medical treatment is a key factor in the nearly one-half million heart attack deaths in the U.S. each year. The two organizations hope to turn this trend around with the call to action and support of National 9-1-1 Day (Sept. 11), which also serves to launch a major new heart attack education campaign called Act in Time to Heart Attack Signs. National 9-1-1 Day was initiated by the National Emergency Number Association to emphasize the importance of calling for emergency medical help. Act in Time targets patients and the general public as well as physicians and seeks to raise awareness about the need for a fast response. Key campaign messages encourage recognition of heart attack symptoms, working with a physician to create a heart attack survival plan, and calling 9-1-1 as soon as symptoms begin. Doctor/patient discussions can deliver a powerful message about key symptoms and appropriate actions to minimize treatment delays, write Lenfant and Faxon. Our goal is to save lives by increasing the woefully low number of heart attack patients who are treated within the first hour of experiencing symptoms, says Lenfant. It is during that crucial 60-minute window that clot-busting medication and other treatments are most effective. Alarmingly, only 1 in 5 patients gets to the hospital emergency department soon enough to benefit from these treatments. Most potential heart attack victims wait at least two -- and possibly four -- hours before seeking medical help and some wait a day or more, Lenfant adds. One reason people wait before getting help is that they do not realize they are having a heart attack because their symptoms do not match the sudden crushing chest pain depicted in the movies -- the so-called Hollywood heart attack. The reality, says Faxon, is that many heart attacks are much 'quieter,' causing only mild pain or discomfort. In addition to uncertainty about symptoms, many patients fear they will be embarrassed if their symptoms turn out to be a false alarm. And the majority of women still view heart attacks as a 'male' problem even though cardiovascular disease is the leading killer of both men and women. Campaign materials point out that calling 9-1-1 can increase survival not only by helping patients get to the hospital fast but also because emergency medical personnel can give a variety of medications and treatments even before arrival at the hospital. Act in Time provides various educational materials for health care providers, heart attack patients and the public. These include a booklet, an educational video, and new Web pages, which can be reached through the NHLBI Web site: www.nhlbi.nih.gov. In addition, campaign partners the American Red Cross and the National Council on the Aging will help increase public awareness by offering Act in Time classes through
[CTRL] FYI: latest US govt bioterrorism scaremongering
and does not imply endorsement by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. References to non-CDC sites on the Internet are provided as a service to MMWR readers and do not constitute or imply endorsement of these organizations or their programs by CDC or the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. CDC is not responsible for the content of pages found at these sites. Disclaimer All MMWR HTML versions of articles are electronic conversions from ASCII text into HTML. This conversion may have resulted in character translation or format errors in the HTML version. Users should not rely on this HTML document, but are referred to the electronic PDF version and/or the original MMWR paper copy for the official text, figures, and tables. An original paper copy of this issue can be obtained from the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office (GPO), Washington, DC 20402-9371; telephone: (202) 512-1800. Contact GPO for current prices. Return To: MMWR MMWR Home PageCDC Home Page **Questions or messages regarding errors in formatting should be addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Page converted: 10/18/2001 http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5041a2.htm October 19, 2001 / 50(41);893-7 Recognition of Illness Associated with the Intentional Release of a Biologic Agent On September 11, 2001, following the terrorist incidents in New York City and Washington, D.C., CDC recommended heightened surveillance for any unusual disease occurrence or increased numbers of illnesses that might be associated with the terrorist attacks. Subsequently, cases of anthrax in Florida and New York City have demonstrated the risks associated with intentional release of biologic agents (1). This report provides guidance for health-care providers and public health personnel about recognizing illnesses or patterns of illness that might be associated with intentional release of biologic agents. Health-Care Providers Health-care providers should be alert to illness patterns and diagnostic clues that might indicate an unusual infectious disease outbreak associated with intentional release of a biologic agent and should report any clusters or findings to their local or state health department. The covert release of a biologic agent may not have an immediate impact because of the delay between exposure and illness onset, and outbreaks associated with intentional releases might closely resemble naturally occurring outbreaks. Indications of intentional release of a biologic agent include 1) an unusual temporal or geographic clustering of illness (e.g., persons who attended the same public event or gathering) or patients presenting with clinical signs and symptoms that suggest an infectious disease outbreak (e.g., 2 patients presenting with an unexplained febrile illness associated with sepsis, pneumonia, respiratory failure, or rash or a botulism-like syndrome with flaccid muscle paralysis, especially if occurring in otherwise healthy persons); 2) an unusual age distribution for common diseases (e.g., an increase in what appears to be a chickenpox-like illness among adult patients, but which might be smallpox); and 3) a large number of cases of acute flaccid paralysis with prominent bulbar palsies, suggestive of a release of botulinum toxin. CDC defines three categories of biologic agents with potential to be used as weapons, based on ease of dissemination or transmission, potential for major public health impact (e.g., high mortality), potential for public panic and social disruption, and requirements for public health preparedness (2). Agents of highest concern are Bacillus anthracis (anthrax), Yersinia pestis (plague), variola major (smallpox), Clostridium botulinum toxin (botulism), Francisella tularensis (tularemia), filoviruses (Ebola hemorrhagic fever, Marburg hemorrhagic fever); and arenaviruses (Lassa [Lassa fever], Junin [Argentine hemorrhagic fever], and related viruses). The following summarizes the clinical features of these agents (3--6). Anthrax. A nonspecific prodrome (i.e., fever, dyspnea, cough, and chest discomfort) follows inhalation of infectious spores. Approximately 2--4 days after initial symptoms, sometimes after a brief period of improvement, respiratory failure and hemodynamic collapse ensue. Inhalational anthrax also might include thoracic edema and a widened mediastinum on chest radiograph. Gram-positive bacilli can grow on blood culture, usually 2--3 days after onset of illness. Cutaneous anthrax follows deposition of the organism onto the skin, occurring particularly on exposed areas of the hands, arms, or face. An area of local edema becomes a pruritic macule or papule, which enlarges and ulcerates after 1--2 days. Small, 1--3 mm vesicles may surround the ulcer. A painless, depressed, black eschar usually with surrounding local edema subsequently develops. The syndrome also may include lymphangitis and painful lymphadenopathy. Plague. Clinical features of pneumonic
Re: [CTRL] declassif docs
-Caveat Lector- Hi all. is this list working ok? pretty much as soon as i sent off the email with the declassified doc, i stopped receiving CTRL posts. is it just me?, or is everyone not getting any posts through? from what i know of this list it is pretty high volume, and such low traffic is not expected. am i correct? Gary. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] declass docs website urls
-Caveat Lector- Hi all. if youre interested in checking out more declass docs and dont yet have these urls, then: many: http://intellnet.org/mkultra/ small selection: http://www2.dmci.net/users/casey Gary. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CARNIVORE: Every link you take, every click you make: The FBI could be watching you
-Caveat Lector- Yeah, ever since i started looking into CIA mind control on the net, all my browsing now goes via mae.west or mae.east, CIA net monitoring nodes. not to mention all my ctrl email being strangely delayed, but not others. so theyre watching me - not much i can do about that. i have no intention of threatening anyones personal freedom, power or finances, so i dont expect to ever get too high on their list of priorities. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Declassified document MORI ID 140394
which will produce instant talking when given to an individual. I believe our hypnotic capacities are as good as the deleted and I also believe that they have not wonder rugs or any other drugs we do not know about. The only thing they have is plenty of time and they care nothing for normal conventions. For matter of record, deleted professed great interest in this type of work stating that in his opinion, it had long been neglected by our Government. He stated he would contribute time and effort if he were called upon to do so and volunteered to assist in any case if he were called upon for assistances. Signature deleted A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [www.washtimes.com] Intercepts foretold of 'big attack'
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] has sent you an article from The Washington Times. --- INTERCEPTS FORETOLD OF 'BIG ATTACK' Rowan Scarborough THE WASHINGTON TIMES --- The day before terrorists struck the United States, its intelligence agencies detected discussions between Osama bin Laden's lieutenants of an impending big attack, a senior administration official says. The official said in an interview that the detection was not discovered until days after the Sept. 11 assault on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The time lapse is typical of intelligence analyses, in which computers sift through loads of that day's collection to find valuable material. The detection explains, the source said, why President Bush increasingly pointed the finger of blame at bin Laden in the days following the kamikaze attacks. The source said the discussions were between bin Laden supporters in the United States and senior members of bin Laden's al Qaeda terrorist organization. As the U.S. military buildup continued yesterday in preparation for air strikes on bin Laden's adopted home of Afghanistan, the Bush administration has brought on board significant allies in its campaign against global terrorism. Military sources said Uzbekistan and Tajikistan, two former Soviet republics on Afghanistan's northern border, have agreed secretly to allow American special-operations troops to launch raids from their soil. The U.S. Air Force is now operating Predator unmanned reconnaissance planes in the region. The RQ-1 Predator relays instantaneous images via a satellite link. It is being used over Afghanistan to locate military targets and possible bin Laden hide-outs. Mr. Bush spoke to Uzbek President Islam A. Karimov on Wednesday in the administration's drive to build an international coalition against terrorism. The two Central Asian countries have a strong motive for helping the United States dislodge the Taliban from power. The extremist Islamic rulers of Afghanistan reportedly have tried to spur a militant Muslim uprising in both neighboring states. Pakistan, which borders Afghanistan on the south and east, has agreed to let American warplanes use its airspace. This means fighter-bombers on Navy carriers in the Arabian Sea would have a direct route to targets in Afghanistan. The Predator flies up to 140 mph and below 25,000 feet. Several were shot down during NATO's air assaults on Yugoslavia in 1999. This summer, a Predator failed to return from a spy mission over southern Iraq amid Baghdad's claims it had downed an American plane. A Pentagon official said at the time that, The whole idea is to use them in high-risk areas. If you lose it, you don't lose a pilot. Officials also said that around Sept. 11, Afghanistan ordered the scattering of heavy military weapons, such as MiG jet fighters and tanks. They are not where they used to be, said an official. They moved them up into the hills. The Pentagon yesterday continued to direct what could be the largest deployment of weapons to the Persian Gulf region area since the 1991 war with Iraq. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld has signed deployment orders for about 150 Air Force aircraft. The package includes heavy B-52 and B-1 bombers, F-15, F-16 and F-117 fighters, aerial refuelers, E-3 AWACs radar-surveillance aircraft and cargo planes. The Pentagon will not say where the planes will be based. Most will likely go to airfields in Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Bahrain, where American warplanes are stationed year-round. Some may launch their bombing runs from Central Asian countries. Two Navy carriers, the Carl Vinson and Enterprise, are in the region. Two others, the Theodore Roosevelt and Kitty Hawk, have been deployed and may join the other two in waters near Afghanistan. The Army is also moving ground troops in the form of special-operations soldiers. These will include elite Rangers, Green Berets and Delta Force commandos. Meanwhile, the Pentagon is starting to spend some of the billions of dollars in emergency funds approved by Congress. On the shopping list: new stocks of precision-guided munitions and improved surveillance equipment. Together, the systems would be used to locate and kill suspected terrorists. The deployment is adding up to a combined air-special operations war against the Taliban and bin Laden's terrorist network. The only way the Taliban militia seems able to defuse an attack at this point is to meet Mr. Bush's demands to turn over bin Laden and other terrorists. The Taliban yesterday rejected the president's demands. The U.S. alliance with Uzbekistan and Tajikistan means that a decade of forging military-to-military contacts with the Central Asian nations has paid off for Washington. In 1995, Uzbekistan and the United States
[CTRL] (Fwd) Is The Military Ready to Mutiny?
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Organization: St. Crispin's Press From: Michael E. Fanning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 22:21:30 -0700 Until our successful slaughter of Serbs -- and others -- by interdicting them with a thousand cruise missiles and 40,000 tons of aerial high explosives, the use of air power to compel subjugation of an enemy had a sordid history of miserable failure. One only has to look back to our aerial assault of North Vietnam during the Johnson Nixon administrations, where we dropped more military ordnance than previously used in the history of aerial warfare. The results are well known: ignominious and utter defeat of the world's greatest power, the United States of America. What the military learned was that air strikes, uncoupled from a general war-making strategy, do no convince an adversary of our firm resolve, but reflect a fatal weakness of our overall policy. In fact, military leaders warned President Clinton prior to the Kosovo campaign that such action would create more problems than it solved. They urged the president to use continued diplomacy; however, with such foreign policy lightweights as Madeleine Albright and Richard Holbrooke leading the diplomatic effort, such a course was doomed from the start. One high-level Pentagon source said, This campaign is a White House operation, not a military action. We are following the orders of our commander-in-chief; that doesn't mean we agree with him. The disagreement between the military and the White House grew so heated just prior to the beginning of the air strikes in late March 1999 that Secretary of Defense William Cohen warned the Joint Chiefs to keep your troops in line on this one. So, we were caught in another effort to bomb a sovereign nation back to the stone age through the use of air power alone, this one covered by the transparent fig leaf of a combined NATO effort -- with no overall plan or strategy, except to convince the American people that our valiant efforts at peacekeeping were noble and moral, to quote our draft-dodging commander in chief, Bill Clinton. The tension here is incredible, one military source told reporter Doug Thompson of the Capitol Hill Blue web site. We have high-level officers talking privately of defying orders, but no one is willing to risk their career to stand up to the president of the United States. In a revealing article carried in Chronicles magazine (July 1998), William J. Corliss, an associate of Boston University Center for Defense Journalism, stressed that the onslaught of political correctness has resulted in the lowest military morale in history. Outside of religious orders, there is no institution that demands so much in the way of obedience and conformity as the military. Precisely because the imperatives of political correctness are so frequently contrary to human nature, the effects on a comparatively closed society like the military are devastating. Corliss fingers the major problem within the rank and file of our fighting forces -- that is, the feminization of our fighting forces and the social experimentation which flies in the face of good order, morale and discipline. It has finally matured into a criminal neglect of the concrete exigencies of war-fighting. Who is to blame? Corliss points out that: .there exists a thin crust of officers at the very top who are there because they have shown themselves willing to carry out the directives of the civilian culture warriors. Serving below them is a vast sea of disgust, complemented by highly trained professionals who have retired in droves citing morale, a changed culture, and lowered standards of every sort. In an interview with former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, that thin crust is revealed by the name regrettably, they have gone over to the enemy. In the New American magazine (2 August 1999), Publisher John F. McManus points out that: The CFR Annual Report lists the organization's members. Currently appearing on the list are the names of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Henry Hugh Shelton; the Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Jay Johnson; the Commandant of the Marine Corps, General Charles Krulak; the Chief of Staff of the Air Force, General Michael Ryan; the NATO Commander, General Wesley Clark, and other high-ranking military officers. Forget the hype and rhetoric of ethnic cleansing and atrocities being peddled by a beseiged White House. The fact is that both sides of this latest Balkan set-to have been doing this to each other for at least 500 years. If the think-tank strategists and academic gurus, whose flawed reasoning has sucked us once more into a bottomless quagmire, believe that we can stop those ethnic upsurges in Yugoslavia -- or anywhere else in the troubled world -- by bombing alone, they are badly and criminally mistaken
[CTRL] (Fwd) 1] Authorities claim progress in war on drugs despite statistics 2] New federal force to battle drugs
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Max Baer Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 22:58:15 -0500 Posted at 3:32 p.m. EDT Thursday, August 30, 2001 Authorities claim progress in war on drugs despite statistics BY NANCY SAN MARTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.miami.com/herald/digdocs/066105.htm BOGOTA, Colombia -- A U.S. delegation on a three-day mission here traveled to rebel territory Thursday for a peek at U.S.-funded operations in a war on drugs that authorities claim to be winning even as statistics suggest an ever-growing problem. The high-level group of U.S. officials toured the southern region of the country, where U.S. Special Forces have trained Colombian army units in combating the drug trade and where aerial drug eradication operations are based. Much of the $1.3 billion in U.S. aid to Colombia is to support the anti-drug effort. According to Colombian authorities, more than 278,000 acres of fields where narcotic-producing plants are grown and 411 laboratories have been destroyed. Yet, statistics from the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy show that more drugs are being seized in the United States, drug consumption remains high and Colombia continues to be the largest supplier of cocaine and heroine. ## New federal force to battle drugs in E. Washington, N. Idaho Thursday, August 30, 2001 THE ASSOCIATED PRESS http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/local/37122_drugforce30ww.shtml SPOKANE -- A new federal task force has been formed to battle drug trafficking organizations in Eastern Washington and northern Idaho. People who are dealing drugs are also frequently involved in money laundering and firearms, said Selby Smith, newly named regional drug boss for the Drug Enforcement Administration. The new task force includes DEA agents working with agents from the FBI, IRS, U.S. Customs and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. The task force is housed in downtown Spokane. The purpose of this new task force is to come at drug organizations at every level of illegal criminal conduct -- drugs, guns, money laundering, tax evasion, Smith said. The task force's region includes 300 miles of the U.S.-Canada border, where smuggling of a potent form of marijuana known as B.C. Bud continues to flourish. The task force also is responsible for federal drug investigations throughout the Idaho Panhandle, from Lewiston to the Canadian border. Methamphetamine production and distribution is the No. 1 drug problem in the region, Smith said. Most large quantities of meth being sold in the Spokane area are coming from dealers with ties to the illegal immigrant community in Yakima, Smith said. ## Ex-police officer admits protecting drug delivery SAN ANTONIO http://web.star-telegram.com/content/fortworth/2001/08/30/state/fw010402-083 0-XB005-4.htm A former Central Texas police officer who was arrested along with seven other law officers in a federal drug sting admitted Tuesday that he plotted to protect a cocaine delivery. Manuel Cedillo Jr. pleaded guilty before U.S. District Judge Edward C. Prado to charges of conspiring to distribute and possess cocaine. Cedillo's plea deal capped his prison sentence at five years and 10 months. It is the fourth plea agreement in the FBI sting that ended on March 22 with the arrest of eight San Antonio police officers, two Bexar County law-enforcement officers and two civilians. As part of the plea bargain, the prosecution could call Cedillo to testify against other defendants. According to court documents, Cedillo admitted he accompanied another police officer to a local hotel to meet a man known as Ricardo, who actually was an undercover agent posing as a midlevel cocaine trafficker. On Dec. 20, Cedillo served as a lookout in the hotel parking lot and was paid $2,000 for his services. Attention Lake County, Indiana residents: Please direct others in our county and state to my new Liberate Lake County! web site by forwarding these posts and leaving this sig file attached and/or send everyone to: http://CheapestGas.tip.nu for the lowest fuel prices and theyll find the link! Thanks in advance! For liberty in our lifetimes, by any means necessary, - Max Madd Maxx Baer Robinson Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. - John F. Kennedy (1917-1963). Speech at White House, 13 Mar. 1962, in Vital Speeches 1 Apr. 1962, p. 356 Snail mail: Madd Maxx P.O. Box 2412 Hammond, IN 46323 Phone: (219)844-5440 Web: http://listen.to/maddmaxx Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- End of forwarded message --- -- Best wishes Every reform is only a mask under cover
[CTRL] An Interesting Article that appeared in Macleans...
-Caveat Lector- Headline: TALE OF A WITCH HUNT Section: History Publication Date: 2001/06/25 By: SUE FERGUSON Your Comments:for all the homophobes (and they know who they are) - URL: http://www.macleans.ca/xta-asp/storyview.asp?viewtype=browsetpl=browse_framevpath=/2001/06/25/History/53112.shtml A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Democracy Trampled in QuebecCity
-Caveat Lector- Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice. - - Barry Goldwater If what the protesters did to that fence in Quebec was wrong then so was what those terrorists in Boston did to that tea in the harbor, and so was what Jesus did to the money changers in the temple. A novel argument Nessie, but a wee bit presumptious to compare a melange of undergraduate middle class hypocrites acting out their revolutionary fantasies, unionists with a barrow of self-interest to push, and green utopians with JC and some colonists protesting about tea taxes. As I said in my original posting, the fence was set up because of what those civilised protestors, demonstrating their unique interpreation of free speech and democracy (for themselves, not for others), had done previously in Seattle, London, Prague and Melbourne. A fine group of people. If nobody stands up to the NWO, we'll all end up working in sweat shops in the middle of a toxic waste dump. Pull the other one. You cowards out there can whine all day about the NWO on the internet from the safety of your home, and ruling elites donât give a ratâs ass. Cowards? Compared to those self-styled global saviours with their balaclavas slingshots, many of whom belong to political organisations which barely register a blip on most people's radar, and whose policies most people would find somewhat unrealistic, I'm not sure if I should be insulted. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Democracy Trampled in QuebecCity
-Caveat Lector- Thanks for sharing this. I am s glad people are getting to see what is REALLY going on. An interesting notion, as with the protests against the WEF in Melbourne last year, there is a tendency especially among sympathisers and those who took part, to portray the protestors as victims of police brutality. But it seems to me that the heavy-handed reponse in Quebec is a direct result of the excesses of extremists, the anarchists, Trotskyists and other self-appointed revolutionaries, usually members of white middle class with a guilt complex (which they usually get over when they grow up) who show their contempt for democracy and free speech through their so-called peaceful blockades and deliberate acts of vandalism and violence. After the contemptible behaviour of some protestors in London (May 99), Seattle, Prague and Melbourne anyone who dared to protest in Quebec should have seen the police overkill coming. But there are times when I think that's exactly the sort of response that the revolutionaries and other radicals want to make martyrs of themselves. That doesn't resolve the issue of whether free trade is a good thing. I don't presume to know yet. But I suppose it depends on what your self-interest is, and I have to say that taxing consumers to protect jobs in unsustainble industries, thereby locking out cheaper, usually developing country suppliers, is morally suspect... BD A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Icke On FTAA
-Caveat Lector- More incisive commentary from Icke!!! And all the the answers to the questions we dare not ask. Where would we be without him! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Icke On FTAA
-Caveat Lector- Europe has already gone further than the Americas into a deep union that continues to grow, and members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations are toying with the idea of forming an Asian Union that would bring in China, Japan and South Korea. [This is the Pacific Union I have been predicting in my books and talks for many years. And they are not toying with the idea, they are toying with the minds of the masses. It is the Illuminati agenda and the leaders of these countries know it.] It takes no great leap of imagination to predict a Pacific Union, but it is rather disingenious for Icke to claim to have predicted in his talks and books for years when the idea pretty much took shape in the late 1980s when APEC was first proposed. BD A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] AL GORE INVENTED ELECTILE DYSFUNCTION!
-Caveat Lector- AL GORE HAS GIVEN AMERICA ELECTILE DYSFUNCTION! ATTENTION REPUBLICANS! And especially anyone with connection to the Bush Campaign. Are you aware that Al Gore hired a telemarketing company to call 5,000 registered Democrat voters in Florida and urge them to call in complaints about the Florida ballots? The Gore Campaign hired Telequest of San Antonio, Texas to make 5,000 calls on Election Day while the polls were open. The point is this: THIS WAS A PRE-PLANNED DEAL! The protests and complaints about the ballots were planned in advance! Wake up! THE GORE CAMP CREATED THIS PROBLEM SO THEY COULD DEMAND THE RECOUNT! Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Dead Should Be Allowed to Vote!
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/12/2000 10:49:00 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Police find locked ballot box at Miami hotel. "At the moment we don't know exactly what's in the box," the officer said. It was not clear how the box arrived at the hotel..." _ Perhaps it is because our national elections are held so close to Halloween and all of the "spirits" have not realized the party is overbut it is a well-known phenomenon that many dead people somehow rise from their graves and vote in our elections. Turns out that many of the people whom Jesse Jackson is saying were "disenfranchised because of their race" were black people trying to use the names and registrations of deceased white people. Some of these were turned away by workers at the polls who noticed the fraud. Well..any time now, I'm expecting the Gore camp to come up with the following argument: "If the dead can win an election, why can't the dead vote?" After all, in the state of Missouri a dead man won a seat in the Senate in a race coinciding with the presidential election. If a dead former Governor (Mel Carnahan) can win an election, it seems only fair that the dead should be allowed to vote. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] You will have to kill all of us...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/12/2000 10:42:00 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: " My prediction: This is GOING to get ugly." ___ Take a moment to consider that not only is it "going to get ugly"but that it was planned this way. Do you remember that last summer, Bill Clinton quietly put Janet Reno in charge of FEMA responses to domestic disturbances? Her appointment became effective October 1st. This position has always be held by the Secretary of Defenseuntil now. Reno's appointment to this position is really strange. The DoD is trained and equipped to respond to such situations. The paper pushers at the Dept. of Justice are not. Alsowhy would Clinton put Reno in this position when she, and the rest of his Administration are supposed to be leaving office in January? Why make an appointment which will only last for 3 months? If this election turmoil really gets ugly, we may learn the hard way why Clinton put Reno in charge of "responding to domestic disturbances" because we may have some for her to respond to. And at Waco, Reno proved just how effective she can be at managing such situations. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The REAL conspiracy behind the election farce
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/11/2000 11:34:08 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is my considered opinion that this election is being manipulated and engineered... To get people to think that their votes are important and that THEY decide who is elected to office. __ You are right on target with this. The build-up for the present situation started with the phony polls in the media leading up to the election. One day it would be Gore with the lead, next day it would be Bush. So the public expected a very close election. Now they are recounting, and then recounting the recount. Now we are hearing about "legal challenges". Now we are hearing about there may be recounts in other states. Now we are hearing about how the Electoral College should be abolished. Consider this. Last summer, Bill Clinton quietly put Janet Reno in charge of FEMA responses to domestic disturbances. Her appointment became effective October 1st. This position has always be held by the Secretary of Defenseuntil now. Reno's appointment to this position is really strange. The DoD is trained and equipped to respond to such situations. The paper pushers at the Dept. of Justice are not. Alsowhy would Clinton put Reno in this position when she, and the rest of his Administration is supposed to be leaving office in January? Why make an appointment which will only last for 3 months? If this election turmoil really gets ugly, we may learn the hard way why Clinton put Reno in charge of responding to domestic disturbancesbecause we may have some for her to respond to. And at Waco, Reno proved just how effective she can be at managing such situations. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Poll Worker Announces Giving Gore supporters Second Ballots
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/09/2000 5:56:11 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One other thing does puzzle me--the "confused" voters in Palm Beach County/ These are retirees, mostly from the northeast. _ The lesson to be learned from this is: They should pass a law in Florida that all Ballots must look like Bingo Cards. Then those senior citizens in Florida would know exactly how to work them. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Michael Moore's Letter To Bush
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/05/2000 3:24:34 PM Central Standard Time, Wes676767 writes: Forcible Rape? Proof please? ___ Wes: There is far more proof that Clinton raped a woman than proof that Mike Tyson did. Tyson was convicted of rape and went to prison even though the only "evidence was the word of the woman who he allegedly raped. This woman was a contestant in a beauty pageant. 15 hours after she was allegedly raped, she competed in the swim suit portion of the contest before a large audience and a panel of judges. Supposedly this woman was forced by one of the hardest hitting punchers in boxing history. Yet.there was not a visible mark on her body. She was in perfect physical condition up there on stage under all the lights. Not only were there no bruises, but she was not visibly distraught nor emotionally upset as one would expect a rape victim to be. On the other hand, in the Juanita Broaddrick case, there were witnesses who said she did have a swollen lip where Bill Clinton bit her. There is seldom any hard evidence as "proof" in such cases. But with Clinton there is that incriminating semen stain with Clinton's DNA on Monica's infamous "blue dress". You say that was "consensual" so it doesn't count. But Wes.it reveals the character and the proclivities of the man. I say again: Clinton's "legacy" is that we now have no minimum standards of conduct for a President. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Michael Moore's Letter To Bush
-Caveat Lector- " this man (Bush) does not deserve to be placed in the highest and most respected office in the land! " " I don't want to hear one word comparing this drunk driving conviction to Clinton's (or Gore's) transgressions." __ Well, you are going to hear a word about it. Truth is that Clinton has lowered the standards of morality and conduct to the point that there are now no minimum standards for a U.S. President. Forcible Rape? No problem. Perjury committed in official Federal legal proceedings?No problem. Transferring Top Secret nuclear weapons technology to foreign countries and hiding this from Congress and the American People?No problem. Repeated violations of U.S. Election Laws on fundraising? No problem. Making secret deals with Russia for the illegal transfer of nuclear weapons technology to a terrorist state (Iran)? No problem. This is not an argument in favor of G. W. Bush. But your position that he is "too bad to be President" is absurd. We have had far worse living in the White house for the past 8 years. Bill Clinton's "Legacy" is that there are no more "minimum standards" for the Office of President. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] October Surprise
xception The anti-terrorism law would have put an end to Occidental's plans in Sudan, but it contained a provision allowing the executive branch to make exceptions. The law went into effect during August of 1996. On the same day that the law became operative, the Clinton administration established an exception that allowed U.S. corporations and individuals to do business with Sudan. Three months after the exception was instituted, the government of Sudan barred Occidental from participating in the oil deal. Sudan did this as a result of a newspaper article that appeared in the Washington Post, which revealed that the Clinton administration was giving military support to three nations who were enemies of the government in Sudan. After Occidental could no longer profit from the exception, Bill Clinton closed it. Less than a year after Sudan barred Occidental from the oil deal, Bill Clinton issued an executive order containing language that mirrors the provision in the anti-terrorism law that his administration had excepted. In the executive order, Clinton stated that the policies of the government of Sudan were an "extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States," and declared "a national emergency to deal with that threat." Less than a year earlier, the Clinton administration stated that there was "nothing improper" in allowing the oil deal between Occidental and Sudan. Al Gore and Occidental In June of 2000, Al Gore said, "It takes somebody who is independent from big oil to take on big oil, and I'm independent from them . . ." At the time when the story about the exception was published, some of Al Gore's extensive financial dealings with Occidental were not widely reported. In addition to campaign contributions, Occidental has been a benefactor of Al Gore and his father for many years. After Gore's father was defeated for reelection in 1970, Occidental hired him at a salary of $500,000 a year. In 1972, Occidental purchased a farm in Tennessee and promptly sold it to Gore's father, who turned around and resold the farm to Al Gore. Over the next decade, Occidental paid Al Gore $20,000 a year for the rights to mine minerals on this land. The payments added up to more than what Gore bought the land for, and during this entire period, Occidental never did any mining there. Presently, Al Gore is the executor of his father's estate, which contains more than $500,000 worth of stock in Occidental. Timeline and Links 3-14-96 Congress passes Antiterrorism bill (S. 735, Section 321). 3-27-96 Occidental chairman Ray Irani sleeps over White House. 3-29-96 Occidental's PAC donates unprecedented $100,000 to DNC. 4-24-96 Clinton signs Antiterrorism bill into law (Public Law 104-132). 8-23-96 Anti-terrorism law goes into effect. 8-23-96 Clinton administration Treasury Department creates exception to law, allowing Occidental to pursue oil deal in Sudan. 11-96 Sudan bars Occidental from oil deal. 1-23-97 Washington Post story published ? Clinton administration says there was nothing improper in allowing Occidental to pursue deal. 11-3-97 Clinton issues Executive Order 13067 closing the exception. Calls Sudan an "extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States", and declares "a national emergency to deal with that threat." Exclusive News Service is brought to you by the staff at http://www.vje.org/about/about.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A =======
[CTRL] AL GORE'S SNAKE OIL
was instituted, the government of Sudan barred Occidental from participating in the oil deal. Sudan did this as a result of a newspaper article that appeared in the Washington Post, which revealed that the Clinton administration was giving military support to three nations who were enemies of the government in Sudan. After Occidental could no longer profit from the exception, Bill Clinton closed it. Less than a year after Sudan barred Occidental from the oil deal, Bill Clinton issued an executive order containing language that mirrors the provision in the anti-terrorism law that his administration had excepted. In the executive order, Clinton stated that the policies of the government of Sudan were an "extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States," and declared "a national emergency to deal with that threat." Less than a year earlier, the Clinton administration stated that there was "nothing improper" in allowing the oil deal between Occidental and Sudan. Al Gore and Occidental In June of 2000, Al Gore said, "It takes somebody who is independent from big oil to take on big oil, and I'm independent from them . . ." At the time when the story about the exception was published, some of Al Gore's extensive financial dealings with Occidental were not widely reported. In addition to campaign contributions, Occidental has been a benefactor of Al Gore and his father for many years. After Gore's father was defeated for reelection in 1970, Occidental hired him at a salary of $500,000 a year. In 1972, Occidental purchased a farm in Tennessee and promptly sold it to Gore's father, who turned around and resold the farm to Al Gore. Over the next decade, Occidental paid Al Gore $20,000 a year for the rights to mine minerals on this land. The payments added up to more than what Gore bought the land for, and during this entire period, Occidental never did any mining there. Presently, Al Gore is the executor of his father's estate, which contains more than $500,000 worth of stock in Occidental. Timeline and Links 3-14-96 Congress passes Antiterrorism bill (S. 735, Section 321). 3-27-96 Occidental chairman Ray Irani sleeps over White House. 3-29-96 Occidental's PAC donates unprecedented $100,000 to DNC. 4-24-96 Clinton signs Antiterrorism bill into law (Public Law 104-132). 8-23-96 Anti-terrorism law goes into effect. 8-23-96 Clinton administration Treasury Department creates exception to law, allowing Occidental to pursue oil deal in Sudan. 11-96 Sudan bars Occidental from oil deal. 1-23-97 Washington Post story published ? Clinton administration says there was nothing improper in allowing Occidental to pursue deal. 11-3-97 Clinton issues Executive Order 13067 closing the exception. Calls Sudan an "extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States", and declares "a national emergency to deal with that threat." Exclusive News Service is brought to you by the staff at http://www.vje.org/about/about.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ======== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DON'T BLAME JFK
In a message dated 08/20/2000 4:16:19 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This, too, is reminiscent of Vietnam, where President John F. Kennedy engaged the U.S. without consulting the handful of officials who actually knew something about Hanoi, Dien Bien Phu, Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Cong. ... Correction. Don't blame John Kennedy for the war in Viet Nam. President John Kennedy did not "engage the U.S." in Vietnam. The U.S. was "engaged" by President Dwight D. Eisenhower, starting at least by the time France was defeated at the battle of Dien Bien Phu in 1954. The so-called "French Connection".the opium and heroin trafficking from the "golden triangle" of indochina became the "American Connection", following the French defeat. That's what Air America was all about. U.S. engagement in Vietnam continued to grow for at least 7 years before John Kennedy became President. In November 1963, Kennedy issued a National Security Action Memorandum which ordered all Americans out of Viet Nam by the end of 1964. At the time of this Presidential Order, there were less than 16,000 Americans in Viet Nam. John Kennedy was assassinated just 20 days after he gave that order. Lyndon Johnson cancelled Kennedy's order (NSAM), and eventually ordered more than half a million U.S. military personnel into the quagmire in Viet Nam. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] LA Times, 8/20/00: The Ghost of Vietnam Haunts '...
In a message dated 08/20/2000 4:16:19 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This, too, is reminiscent of Vietnam, where President John F. Kennedy engaged the U.S. without consulting the handful of officials who actually knew something about Hanoi, Dien Bien Phu, Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Cong. ... Correction. Don't blame John Kennedy for the war in Viet Nam. President John Kennedy did not "engage the U.S." in Vietnam. The U.S. was "engaged" by President Dwight D. Eisenhower, starting at least by the time France was defeated at the battle of Dien Bien Phu in 1954. The so-called "French Connection".the opium and heroin trafficking from the "golden triangle" of indochina became the "American Connection", following the French defeat. That's what Air America was all about. U.S. engagement in Vietnam continued to grow for at least 7 years before John Kennedy became President. In November 1963, Kennedy issued a National Security Action Memorandum which ordered all Americans out of Viet Nam by the end of 1964. At the time of this Presidential Order, there were less than 16,000 Americans in Viet Nam. John Kennedy was assassinated just 20 days after he gave that order. Lyndon Johnson cancelled Kennedy's order (NSAM), and eventually ordered more than half a million U.S. military personnel into the quagmire in Viet Nam. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Concorde crash near Paris
In a message dated 07/25/2000 10:24:44 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just heard on CBS news that a Concorde supersonic jet has crashed into a hotel just outside of Paris. ___ Many eyewitnesses saw the Concorde crash. There are reported to be many pictures of the plane in the air and on impact. Witnesses say they saw flames and smoke coming from one of the engines just as the Concorde left the runway. WHAT IFFrench Officials now came out with a story that there were no flames or smoke coming from the engine. WHAT IF they said it exploded in the air and then fell to the ground? WHAT IF they completely ignored all of the eyewitnesses? THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT.WOULD THEY? WELL..THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT DID IN THE OFFICIAL INVESTIGATION OF THE CRASH OF TWA FLIGHT 800. THEY IGNORED THE REPORTS OF MORE THAN 100 PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY SAW A MISSILE, OR A STREAK COME UP FROM BELOW AND EXPLODE INTO FLIGHT 800. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] $13.3 Billion in Unlawful Aid
In a message dated 07/13/2000 10:10:08 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WASHINGTON (AP) - The House passed a foreign aid bill Thursday after adding money for the world's indebted nations and the global battle against AIDS. But Democrats said it still won't help millions who suffer in poverty, hunger and sickness. The 239-185 vote approved $13.3 billion for next year for a range of economic, military, development and other programs. _ I challenge anyone to find in the U.S. Constitution any power or authority to give the money of the American People to foreign countries. Foreign Aid is unlawful. It's as simple as that. The People have become so numbed and dumbed they don't even speak a word of protest when the president and the congress loot the public treasury of billions of dollars and dole it out to foreign countries. Every member of Congress who votes for this is guilty of violating their oath to "uphold, protect, and defend the Constitution of the united States, for all enemies foreign and domestic." Most of the "enemies of the united States" are in Washington DC. The American People are going to re-elect most of them next November. It's like watching reruns of a bad sitcom for the 20th time. Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] BIG BROTHER IS IN ORBIT
SATELLITE SPYING? NOT US...WE'RE THE GOOD GUYS...ARN'T WE? Nakano Posted at Jul 06, 2000 07:16 AM Pacific BRUSSELS, BELGIUM -- The European Parliament approved the creation of a special temporary committee Wednesday to investigate allegations that the U.S.-backed Echelon satellite information system is stealing European industrial secrets. Echelon is a network of supercomputers and satellites run by the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) and located in the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. It is capable of eavesdropping on electronic communications in the form of faxes, telephone calls and electronic mail. The U.S. and UK governments have repeatedly denied that it is used for industrial espionage, saying the system was set up as a means to fight terrorism, money laundering and drug trafficking. For the full story: http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/00/07/06/000706hnechelon.xml?0706thpm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ** H O T ** NICHOLS PROJECT = CLINTON ain't Leaving! ** H O T **
In a message dated 07/02/2000 12:12:40 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NEVER FORGET...October 1, 2000...just 5 weeks before our next Presidential Election...'GUNS TANKS' JANET RENO will have the Power to Advise the President, as the New Head of our U.S. Military and Response Team to any Nuclear-Biological-Civil Unrest Attack on our Nation from within or without, that he should stay on in the interests of the Nation. So the Gal that sent the GUNS in on THE KID OF MIAMI and the Gal who sent the TANKS in on THE KIDS OF WACO...will now have the power to send in ANYTHING at all in ON US...at the drop of a Hat. !NEVER FORGET "the Defense Appropriations Act of 1997 put the Secretary of Defense in charge of providing training to FEMA and various other Federal, State and Local emergency response teams in the case of an attack by an NBC (Nuclear/Biological/Chemical) weapon." BUT NOW CLINTON HAS ORDERED THIS CHANGED FROM THE DEPT. OF DEFENSE TO THE DEPT. OF JUSTICE. ON OCTOBER 1, JANET RENO WILL BE IN CHARGE! Take an objective look at the two Departments. Which one has vastly superior experience and resources to conduct this task? NUCLEAR WEAPONS! BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS! The Dept. of Justice has zero experience in these areas. Even if the Attorney General were a widely admired and respected leader, this appointment by Clinton simply doesn't make any sense. Given the reality of the Attorney General we havethis appointment is criminally insane. Reno has only one qualification. She is a totally committed to protect Bill Clinton and to carry out his orders without question and without regard to our Constitution. It is a monumental understatement to say that this appointment of Janet Reno raises many logical and disturbing questions. Regards at All, Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NUTTY PROFESSOR STRIKES AGAIN
The basic question which has been posed to the Professor repeatedly is: "Please explain why a privately owned corporation of bankers should have life and death control over the national economy of the United States?" And here is the Professor's answer: "The simple answer to which is: They don't." Professor Jerry Mander This answer confirms what many on this list have long suspected: that Mander is a Professor of Proctology and addicted to self examination. Come on Professor, get your finger out of there! You are contradicting yourself so often you sound like Al Gore...maybe worse. In several previous posts, you have stated: 1. That the Federal Reserve is not a government agency and that it is a private corporation. 2. That the Federal Reserve controls the money supply of the United States via "the deposit taking function" and the "lending function" as you put it. 3. That the Federal Reserve controls interest rates. Now you vacuously proclaim that the Federal Reserve does not have life and death control over the economy of the United States. Professor.are you totally ignorant of the plain fact that every time Alan Greenspan utters a word in public, the financial markets react? If he gets a sniffle, Wall Street gets the flu! Anyone who doubts the FED has a stranglehold on our economy, should do a little study on what FED Chairman Paul Voelcker did to interest rates back in the Carter Administration. The FED pumped up the rates to the point that the prime lending rate topped 18 percent! New housing starts virtually stopped. The construction industry shriveled up and nearly died. New car sales hit all time lows. Unemployment soared. Our national economy went into a downward spiral. Wall Street was comatose. A new term was coined to describe this condition. It was termed a "national malaise". Ah...but forget this clear example of history. Forget even the "Great Depression" which Alan Greenspan has admitted was caused by the FED. We have the assurance of Jerry Mander that none of this is true. Jerryare you completely unaware that you are contradicting your own arguments? You are chasing your own tail! This is highly suspicious behavior especially for a proctologist! Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ==== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE NUTTY PROFESSOR MANDER
CAT GOT YOUR KEYBOARD PROFESSOR? "Please explain why a privately owned corporation of bankers should have life and death control over the national economy of the United States?" STILL WAITING FOR YOUR ANSWER.PROFESSOR. In a message dated 06/16/2000 10:37:41 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Professor Jerry Mander writes: " I explained the creation of money... Would you like me to post it again?" Yes professor, please do post it again. " The creation of money is accomplished initially by the deposit taking function and is then facilitated using the lending funtion subject only to reserve requirements..." You state in the above that money is created by "the deposit taking function". Professorplease explain just exactly what it is that is "deposited", and how "deposits" of whatever it is results in the "creation of money." You next state in the above that the creation of money is "facilitated" by the "lending function." Professor...please explain exactly what it is that is being lended in this lending function. Your stated position is that money is "created" by deposit taking and by lending. Again, the question is: The deposit of what and the lending of what? Next you write about: "reserve requirements (an FRB function that controls the growth of money)" No argument here professor. You are correct. The FED's "reserve requirement" is one of the controls on the growth of the money supply. Since money is the lifeblood of a modern economy, it follows that whoever or whatever has control over the money supply, literally has life and death control over our national economy. Please explain why a privately owned corporation of bankers should have life and death control over the national economy of the United States? Regards, Nakano P.S. Professor, perhaps you may find some solace in that your guru, Rush Limbaugh, can't answer this simple question either. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ======== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: [Fwd: [CTRL] JFK vs THE FEDERAL RESERVE]]
Hello Joe, Thank you for forwarding the information on the United States Notes 1963 Series. I knew as fact that John Kennedy ordered the U.S. Treasury to print and issue the currency. I have seen and touched a couple of those $5. Bills myself. I have heard from various sources that the majority of the currency was never put into circulation and that nearly all of it was removed from circulation after the assassination. As to whether this was a factor in the assassination, as many believe, I don't know. I do know that after the assassination of Ngo Diem and his brother in South Vietnam (Nov. 2, 1963) Kennedy was determined to extricate the U.S. from Vietnam. He issued National Security Action Memorandum 263 which ordered all U.S. personnel out by the end of 1964. At the time Kennedy gave this order, there were only about 14,000 personnel in Vietnam. The first 1,000 U.S. military advisors were pulled out of Vietnam and had arrived at Subic Bay in the Phillipines by Nov. 22, 1963. While John Kennedy's body was lying in State in the U.S. Capitol Rotunda, Lyndon Johnson countermanded Kennedy's order. The 1,000 personnel at Subic were immediately sent back to Vietnam. There were followed by more than half a million U.S. Military personnel...58,000 of whom did not return alive. I believe this is why John Kennedy was murdered. He decided to actually be the Commander-in-Chief. He decided against further U.S. involvement in that war. As such, he was a obstacle to the plans of the cold minds who actually run the world. Regards, Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] JFK vs THE FEDERAL RESERVE
MENT OF THE TREASURY By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows: SECTION 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended - (a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j): "(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821 (b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption," and (b) By revoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof. SECTION 2. The amendment made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made. JOHN F. KENNEDY THE WHITE HOUSE, June 4, 1963 -- -- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ==== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fractional Reserve Banking Fraud
year, $25 billion a year. "It's a non-trivial thing," Mr. Porter observes mildly. If two-thirds of those notes circulate abroad, then one-third ought to be here, i.e., F$152.49 billion. If that's so, then the banks are holding 28.95% of that circulation. The issue of how much dough there is (which is what I'm getting at) is complicated because the Fed figures don't break out "vault cash" into "coin" and "currency." I tried to get a figure on how much coin is in circulation, but I couldn't penetrate the adamantine barrier of the US Mint's voice mail. Once before I tried this futile exercise, so I don't think any of them has the least clue how much coin is circulating. The Mint folks may be good at stamping out coins, but don't ask them intricate conceptual questions like, "How much US coin is in circulation?" Their answers are simply too bizarre to recount. A WARNING The slice of cash - currency and coin - in the US money system is thinner than baloney at a cheap delicatessen. Banks hold less than a third of the currency, and that would cover only a tee-tiny 1.32% of their deposits if depositors ever wake from their coma and demand their dough. More and more people are hearing the recommendation to "withdraw a little extra cash out of the banks" to prepare for Y2K. If as many as 1.32% of bank depositors take their advice and withdraw all their money, the banks will close their doors. Y2K threatens to disrupt the electronic bank payments system. This system contributes about 90% of the US money supply. Without it, 10% of the money supply (the cash coin) must take over the work of the other 90%. Conclusion: Withdraw and stockpile some cash now. Shoot for at least three months' cash requirements. Don't wait. Start now. Franklin Sanders A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ======== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [slick-d] Motivating the Citizenry
NOTE: It is glaringly apparent that Professor Mander is incapable of carrying on a rational discussion. This is illustrated by the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Professor Jerry Mander writes: "In my post of a few days ago I explained the creation of money in a VERY simple example." _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ First of all professor, YOU didn't explain anything. All you did was copy some information from the Indiana Purdue University website and post it to this List. It isn't YOUR explanation. Next thing professor, if you click on through 3 or 4 more pages on this same website, it directly confirms what I wrote in my previous post. I wrote: "THE FACT IS THAT NEARLY ALL OF WHAT IS DEFINED ABOVE AS "MONEY" IS BORROWED INTO EXISTENCE!" The university website of your choice states: "The United States Monetary System is a Debt-Based system. Most of our money supply is created through bankâs making loans." The University website then goes on to say: "The creation of money through loans does not create any wealth, but allows banks to charge interest several times on the same bit of wealth." Do you comprehend what is being said here professor? It's as simple as 1,2,3. 1. "Money" is created when banks make loans of something that did not exist until the moment the loan was made. In reality, the banks loan some numbers entered into a computer. 2. This "creation of money" by banks does not create any wealth. 3. The banks are allowed to profit several times over even though they create nothing but debt via bookkeeping entries. What a fantastic fraud this is! The bank simply makes a few computer entries. It costs the bank almost nothing to do this. No wealth is created at this point. But the person who receives the loan must work and invest time, effort, talent, and abilities to create something of real wealth in order to pay back the loan of nothing more than a bookkeeping entry. The bank may make a bookkeeping entry (loan) in just a few minutes. But the person who must pay back the loan may have to work hard for years in order to pay this loan off. This is absolutely the slickest "something for nothing" racket ever conceived! But it gets even worse! Another slight-of-hand fraud is stacked on top of the something for nothing theft just described. Through the black magic of "Fractional Reserve Banking", banks are allowed to count loans (of nothing) as assets. These "assets" are counted as ""reserve requirements". The effect is that the banks are able to loan (create) many more "dollars" into existence. Yes indeed professor.as the University website states: "The United States Monetary System is a Debt-Based system." And another thing professor: The University website you quoted from gives direct confirmation of something else I wrote. "The âFedâ is a privately owned institution" As usual professor, you ignore the facts. You also ignore the reasonable questions which I, and others, have raised and put to you. I specifically asked the following: Since money is the lifeblood of a modern economy, it follows that whoever or whatever has control over the money supply, literally has life and death control over our national economy. Please explain why a privately owned corporation of bankers should have life and death control over the national economy of the United States? You ignore this question because you have no rational answer. You have only your opinions.and they are non-informed opinions at that. There is no point in continuing this discussion any further. There is no sport in mentally dueling with an unarmed man. Regards to All Nakano P.S. For anyone who cares to check out the Indiana-Purdue University website mentioned abovehere's the address. http://www.ipfw.indiana.edu/nf1/bullion/web/Slides/Chap27/tsld020.htm Money Creation with Fractional-Reserve Banking When a bank makes a loan (from itâs reserves) the money supply increases. When banks hold only a fraction of deposits in reserve, banks create money. The creation of money through loans does not create any wealth, but allows banks to charge interest several times on the same bit of wealth. http://www.ipfw.indiana.edu/nf1/bullion/web/Slides/Chap27/tsld020.htm http://www.ipfw.indiana.edu/nf1/bullion/web/Slides/Chap27/tsld020.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and tho
[CTRL] THE FEDERAL RESERVE FRAUD
NOTE: It is glaringly apparent that Professor Mander is incapable of carrying on a rational discussion. This is illustrated by the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Professor Jerry Mander writes: "In my post of a few days ago I explained the creation of money in a VERY simple example." _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ First of all professor, YOU didn't explain anything. All you did was copy some information from the Indiana Purdue University website and post it to this List. It isn't YOUR explanation. Next thing professor, if you click on through 3 or 4 more pages on this same website, it directly confirms what I wrote in my previous post. I wrote: "THE FACT IS THAT NEARLY ALL OF WHAT IS DEFINED ABOVE AS "MONEY" IS BORROWED INTO EXISTENCE!" The university website of your choice states: "The United States Monetary System is a Debt-Based system. Most of our money supply is created through bankâs making loans." The University website then goes on to say: "The creation of money through loans does not create any wealth, but allows banks to charge interest several times on the same bit of wealth." Do you comprehend what is being said here professor? It's as simple as 1,2,3. 1. "Money" is created when banks make loans of something that did not exist until the moment the loan was made. In reality, the banks loan some numbers entered into a computer. 2. This "creation of money" by banks does not create any wealth. 3. The banks are allowed to profit several times over even though they create nothing but debt via bookkeeping entries. What a fantastic fraud this is! The bank simply makes a few computer entries. It costs the bank almost nothing to do this. No wealth is created at this point. But the person who receives the loan must work and invest time, effort, talent, and abilities to create something of real wealth in order to pay back the loan of nothing more than a bookkeeping entry. The bank may make a bookkeeping entry (loan) in just a few minutes. But the person who must pay back the loan may have to work hard for years in order to pay this loan off. This is absolutely the slickest "something for nothing" racket ever conceived! But it gets even worse! Another slight-of-hand fraud is stacked on top of the something for nothing theft just described. Through the black magic of "Fractional Reserve Banking", banks are allowed to count loans (of nothing) as assets. These "assets" are counted as ""reserve requirements". The effect is that the banks are able to loan (create) many more "dollars" into existence. Yes indeed professor.as the University website states: "The United States Monetary System is a Debt-Based system." And another thing professor: The University website you quoted from gives direct confirmation of something else I wrote. "The âFedâ is a privately owned institution" As usual professor, you ignore the facts. You also ignore the reasonable questions which I, and others, have raised and put to you. I specifically asked the following: Since money is the lifeblood of a modern economy, it follows that whoever or whatever has control over the money supply, literally has life and death control over our national economy. Please explain why a privately owned corporation of bankers should have life and death control over the national economy of the United States? You ignore this question because you have no rational answer. You have only your opinions.and they are non-informed opinions at that. There is no point in continuing this discussion any further. There is no sport in mentally dueling with an unarmed man. Regards to All Nakano P.S. For anyone who cares to check out the Indiana-Purdue University website mentioned abovehere's the address. http://www.ipfw.indiana.edu/nf1/bullion/web/Slides/Chap27/tsld020.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======== Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:
Re: [CTRL] [slick-d] Motivating the Citizenry
In a message dated 06/16/2000 12:52:10 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Professor Jerry Mander writes: " the FRB has numerous other functions, including regulating the natural creation of money (which, thoretically, would be infinate without reserves) by the establishment of reserves, and several other functions." Professor Mander, you display a surprising amount of ignorance here. You write about "the natural creation of money". Just what is this in your opinion? What process of nature creates money? You apparently hold the same view that many children are accused of holding; namely, that money grows on trees. You write of paper money being printed. Granted that most people probably think of "money" in terms of the paper bills and coins in circulation; but cash is only a small part of what the Federal Reserve defines and measures as "money". Here it is in their own words: M1, M2, and M3 are progressively more inclusive measures of money: M1 is included in M2, which is included in M3. M1, the most narrowly defined measure, consists of the most liquid forms of money, namely currency and checkable deposits. The non-M1 components of M2 are primarily household holdings of savings deposits, time deposits, and retail money market mutual funds. The non-M2 components of M3 consist of institutional money funds and certain managed liabilities of depositories, namely large time deposits, repurchase agreements, and Eurodollars." THE FACT IS THAT NEARLY ALL OF WHAT IS DEFINED ABOVE AS "MONEY" IS BORROWED INTO EXISTENCE! When a person goes to their local bank to obtain a loan for a new car, the bank does not have the "money" sitting on a shelf in their safe. The bank does not have that money anywhere. When the bank customer signs the loan forms and the loan is approved, the bank makes some computerized bookkeeping entries and Shazam..the "money" suddenly appears in the customer's accountliterally from nowhere! THE "MONEY" DID NOT EXIST UNTIL THE BANK CUSTOMER BORROWED IT INTO EXISTENCE. THE "MONEY" ISN'T IN THE FORM OF CASH, IT IS NOTHING MORE THAN SOME NUMBERS ENTERED INTO A COMPUTER. SO NOW THE BANK CAN EARN INTEREST ON SOMETHING IT CREATED WITH SOME KEYSTROKES ON A COMPUTER. PRETTY NEAT RACKET HUH? BUT IT GET'S EVEN BETTER PROFESSOR. THE FED NOW LETS THE BANK COUNT THAT LOAN AS AN "ASSET". THE LOAN NOW COUNTS AS PART OF THE BANK'S "RESERVE". UNDER THE TOTALLY FRAUDULENT SYSTEM OF "FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKING", THAT BANK CAN NOW CREATE MORE "MONEY" IN THE FORM OF NEW LOANS. UNDER THIS SYSTEM, THE BANK CAN NOW LOAN OUT 16 MORE DOLLARS FOR EVERY DOLLAR IT IS OWED UNDER THE TERMS OF THE LOAN MADE TO THE FIRST CUSTOMER IN THIS EXAMPLE. ISN'T THIS THE MOST FANTASTIC SCHEME IMAGINABLE? You write about: "the establishment of reserves" by the FED. These "reserves" are not money on deposit. The "reserves" are debts owed to the bank from loans made by the bank with "money" created out of thin air by computer entries! In various news reports, we sometimes hear the term "hard currency". For instance, Russia and China are often reported to be short of "hard currency". The truth is..there is no "hard currency" in the world today! Definitions: Currency - originally this term meant "current for coin" (gold or silver coin) Hard Currency - paper "Bearer Notes" backed by gold or silver. The currency was "hard" because it was backed by hard metal. Fact is that the U.S. Dollar isn't backed by anything other than the faith that people can spend it. THERE ARE NO GOLD OR SILVER RESERVES TO BACK U.S. CURRENCY! The U.S. went off the "gold standard" in 1933. At that time the "Promise to Pay Bearer on Demand" in gold was cancelled. The U.S. went off the "silver standard" in 1965. At that time the silver backing for U.S. paper money was removed. No hard currencies professor.not anymore. First the bankers promised to hold the people's gold and silver in a safe place and they issued paper "Bearer Notes" which could be redeemed in gold or silver. Then, the bankers cancelled the promise to redeem the paper notes with gold or silver. It's likely that in the next phase, the bankers will do away with the "paper money" completely. The next step they have planned for us is the "cashless society". Under this scheme, our "money" will be nothing more than electronic blips in computers. Just think professor.no more armed robberies. Nobody will hold up a bank or a convenience store to take the money. There won't be any money. Sound great? Consider that whoever has control of t
[CTRL] A BILL TO KILL THE FED
HR 1148 IH 106th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 1148 To abolish the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks, to repeal the Federal Reserve Act, and for other purposes. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES March 17, 1999 Mr. PAUL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Banking and Financial Services -- -- A BILL To abolish the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks, to repeal the Federal Reserve Act, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the `Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act'. SEC. 2. FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD ABOLISHED. (a) IN GENERAL- Effective at the end of the 1-year period beginning on the date of the enactment of this Act, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and each Federal reserve bank are hereby abolished. (b) REPEAL OF FEDERAL RESERVE ACT- Effective at the end of the 1-year period beginning on the date of the enactment of this Act, the Federal Reserve Act is hereby repealed. (c) DISPOSITION OF AFFAIRS- (1) MANAGEMENT DURING DISSOLUTION PERIOD- During the 1-year period referred to in subsection (a), the Chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System-- (A) shall, for the sole purpose of winding up the affairs of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks-- (i) manage the employees of the Board and each such bank and provide for the payment of compensation and benefits of any such employee which accrue before the position of such employee is abolished; and (ii) manage the assets and liabilities of the Board and each such bank until such assets and liabilities are liquidated or assumed by the Secretary of the Treasury in accordance with this subsection; and (B) may take such other action as may be necessary, subject to the approval of the Secretary of the Treasury, to wind up the affairs of the Board and the Federal reserve banks. (2) LIQUIDATION OF ASSETS- (A) IN GENERAL- The Director of the Office of Management and Budget shall liquidate all assets of the Board and the Federal reserve banks in an orderly manner so as to achieve as expeditious a liquidation as may be practical while maximizing the return to the Treasury. (B) TRANSFER TO TREASURY- After satisfying all claims against the Board and any Federal reserve bank which are accepted by the Director of the Office of Management and Budget and redeeming the stock of such banks, the net proceeds of the liquidation under subparagraph (A) shall be transferred to the Secretary of the Treasury and deposited in the General Fund of the Treasury. (3) ASSUMPTION OF LIABILITIES- All outstanding liabilities of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks at the time such entities are abolished, including any liability for retirement and other benefits for former officers and employees of the Board or any such bank in accordance with employee retirement and benefit programs of the Board and any such bank, shall become the liability of the Secretary of the Treasury and shall be paid from amounts deposited in the general fund pursuant to paragraph (2) which are hereby appropriated for such purpose until all such liabilities are satisfied. (d) REPORT- At the end of the 18-month period beginning on the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of the Treasury and the Director of the Office of Management and Budget shall submit a joint report to the Congress containing a detailed description of the actions taken to implement this Act and any actions or issues relating to such implementation that remain uncompleted or unresolved as of the date of the report. END A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="htt
Re: [CTRL] [slick-d] WE LOSE OUR REPUBLIC BY FAILURE TO ACT
In a message dated 06/11/2000 2:03:40 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: In real life I'm a CPA, have a law degree, flew Phantoms for three years in Vietnam, and am the former CFO of a LARGE bank. I can tell you a couple of FACTS about the 'bankers'. A: There is no secret cabal We would have liked one. It would make the job easier-- and more fun! B: The Fed has a LOT less ability to affect the money supply (and interest rates) then it is given credit for C: The 'unseen hand' (a term familiar to anyone with a basic understanding econ) is the TRUE driver. What's the unseen hand? It's the self interest of millions and millions of individuals, and it's ALWAYS been in control. The best protection for an ecomony is an educated populace. Not one fed tripe..." Professor Jerry Mander _ Roger that, Phantom Driver.call the ball! You say: "...the unseen hand...is the TRUE driver" and that his is: " the self interest of millions and millions of individuals, and it's ALWAYS been in control." So. The masses of people.the millions and millions of individuals have always been in control? Wrong, Professor. You get an "F" in history. You just flunked. If history teaches anything, it teaches that throughout all of recorded history; the many have been victimized, plundered, enslaved, and subjugated by the few. The masses of slaves of the ancient empires were not "in control". The masses of serfs in the age of feudalism were not "in control". The masses of wage slaves in the U.S. today are not "in control". Today, the masses of people live in an illusion. Because we have popular elections instead of kings who rule by "Devine Right".we think we control the government. This is the reason the illusion is maintained. People are much easier to control when they don't realize they are being controlled. People don't struggle to get out of a cage, when they can't find or see any bars. The masses have never been in control Professor. They never have been and they are not today. The Federal Reserve Act was secretively passed in the dark on the night before Christmas Eve 1913. The Conspirators in Congress who did the deed then rushed it over to the White House in the dark of night for Wilson to sign into law. No matter how you slice it or rationalize it; that was not the act of a government of, by, and for the people. Money and credit are the lifeblood of a modern society. The truth is that this lifeblood is under the control of a privately owned corporation of international bankers. They are unaccountable to We the People. The FED has never even been audited, even though several times Bills have been introduced in Congress to require this. The Pentagon is audited on a regular basis. The White House is audited. Every Federal Department and Agency is audited. The Federal Reserve is not. You say you are a CPA. This ought to shout something to you very loudly. You are correct on one count Professor, when you say: "The best protection for an ecomony is an educated populace. Not one fed tripe..." An educated populace would be wonderful. IF IT WERE EDUCATED WITH THE TRUTH! Our children are "educated" in government indoctrination centers. The alleged News Media is tightly controlled so that people are only fed the "official tripe". Even so, most Americans do understand they have never been told the truth about: the assassination of President Kennedy the assassination of Bobby Kennedy the assasination of Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. the war in Vietnam (in which you say you participated) the massacre of the Branch Davidians in Waco the bombing of the Federal Building in Oklahoma City just to name a few. The list could fill a book.and Clinton has written at least an entire chapter all by himself. If you would know the truth, first you must respect power of illusion. Nothing is what it seems to be! Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: htt
Re: [CTRL] Worldwide Lunch Program
In a message dated 06/08/2000 10:15:16 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 'Nobody has been able to find a better way to get them to FREE FOOD! Nobody has been able to find a better way to get them to.willingly put on the chains of slavery. This is the way it was done in America.why not the world? Drug pushers often use this same tactic. First they give away some "free samples". Then when they have the new customer "hooked" on the drug they have that person under their control. Years ago, the Federal Government began offering "free funding" of school lunch programs. The stated purpose was to make sure that no child in America went hungry at school. The School Districts were the real targets. They were the ones that got "hooked" on the "free money" from Washington. Once they were hooked, the government had them under control. Example: When the Federal Courts ordered massive bussing of students to achieve "racial balance" in the nation's schools, many school districts didn't want to comply. They were abruptly informed that if they did not obey, they would lose all Federal Funding including the money for the School Lunch Program. The result was that the nation's school districts shut up and obeyed. Same thing with the 55 MPH nationwide speed limit on all the highways a few years ago. Some states didn't want to reduce the limit to 55. But they quickly obeyed when they were threatened with the loss of all federal highway funding. So now Clinton is calling for a "Free Lunch Program" for the world. There is absolutely nothing in the U.S. Constitution that gives the Federal Government the power to use federal funds to pay for school lunches, even in our own country. There is less than absolutely nothing in our Constitution that give the government the power to fund a global free lunch program. Of course, Bill Clinton regards our Constitution as toilet paper and treats it accordingly. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ==== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: There Goes the Ozone Layer
In a message dated 06/04/2000 10:39:21 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't forget that the Antarctica volcano, Mt. Erebus, is a major contributor of halogens to the Antarctic atmosphere. In 1991 Mt. Erebus produced 14,600 tons of HCl and 6,600 tons of HF. ## Good information Richard. Here's a fair comparison. If we let 1 gallon of water represent the total amount of chlorine in all the CFCs ever produced by man, then all the chlorine released by the oceans and by volcanoes over the last 200 years would be represented by the water in Lake Michigan! It is such a tiny amount in comparison to the chlorine that is released by natural processes, as to be meaningless. Consider that the Ozone Layer has continued to exist for millions of years in spite of eras of high volcanic activity and in spite of the massive quantities of chlorine produced by the oceans. Now we are supposed to believe that the CFCs in spraycans and in air conditioners is "destroying the ozone". It's totally laughable, once you know the facts. Trouble is, most folks get their information and their opinions from television. If Dan Rather, and Brokaw, and Jennings say it, then it must be true. Even worse.if they don't say it, then it can't be true. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Employment at the Vertical Bar Motel
In a message dated 06/05/2000 5:35:27 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The ruthless dismantling of social welfare systems and the effects of global capitalism have dramatically changed the lives of millions of people. Many who previously just managed to get by on the fringes of the "social network" are now faced with destitution. ### This is a pre-planned process. This is a long-term process. In brief, here is how it works. For illustration, we'll use the United States starting in 1928. 1. The total tax burden on the average middleclass family is 3% of annual income. (Most families are single-income families). 2. There are virtually no federally funded "social programs". There are very few state funded "social programs". 3. Most adult Americans are highly self-suficient. Healthcare and dental care is affordable. Most families can afford to go to their family doctors and they can afford to go to the hospital. 4. Most Americans can afford to save money. The national savings rate is far higher than it will be 60 or 70 years later. 5. A high percentage of Americans can afford to buy a home. The "owner occupancy rate" is far higher than it will be 60 years later when many people will live in apartment houses and other rental properties. 6. Most Americans are relatively debt free (excluding home mortgages). Then, in the 1930s, the Federal government comes forward with many new "social programs". The government launches programs which offer to help people do the above listed things which they have traditionally done for themselves. These various programs begin at a modest level. But as time passes and people get used to the idea of "social programs", more and more such programs are added and expanded. Of course the government must increase taxes to pay for all of this. The people gripe about the taxes, but they have grown to embrace the "free" federal programs. Over a period of 2 generations the situation has changed dramatically. In the year 1998: 1. The total tax burden on the average middle-class family is over 50% of annual income. (Most families are now dual-income families). 2. There are almost countless federally funded "social programs". There are many state funded "social programs". 3. Most adult Americans are highly dependent on the government. Healthcare and dental care are not affordable. Most families can't afford to go to their family doctors and they can't afford to go to the hospital without expensive health and medical insurance coverage. 4. Most Americans can't afford to save money. The national savings rate is the lowest since records have been kept. 5. A high percentage of Americans can't afford to buy a home. The "owner occupancy rate" is far lower than it was 50 years ago. 6. Most Americans are in debt. (Even when excluding home mortgages). MOST PEOPLE HAVE BECOME HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. ONE IN EVERY FOUR PEOPLE IS RECEIVING FUNDS FROM THE GOVERNMENT IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER. ABOUT HALF THE SCHOOL CHILDREN IN THE COUNTRY ARE GETTING "FREE" OR REDUCED-PRICE SCHOOL LUNCHES WHICH ARE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED. MILLIONS LIVE IN GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED HOUSING. AT THIS POINT THE TRAP IS SPRUNG!!! NOW COMES THE "RUTHLESS DISMANTLING OF SOCIAL WELFARE SYSTEMS." BUT HERE IS THE REALLY CRUEL AND INSIDIOUS PART OF THE PLAN. THE HIGH TAX STRUCTURE PUT INTO PLACE TO PAY FOR THESE PROGRAMS IS KEPT IN PLACE. NOW THE PEOPLE ARE TRAPPED. THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY FOR ALL THE "FREE" THINGS THE GOVERNMENT WAS PROVIDING FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL PAYING HALF OF THEIR INCOME TO THE GOVERNMENT. NOW THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR MONEY TO PROVIDE FOR THEMSELVESAND THEY DON'T HAVE THE "FREE" GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS EITHER!! THIS PLAN IS MUCH FURTHER ADVANCED IN CANADA THAN IN THE UNITED STATES. UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE RAPIDLY CATCHING UP. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ==
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Price of Progress
In a message dated 06/05/2000 9:07:41 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: `We already know that about half of us die of cardiopulmonary disease, # Cardiopulmonary disease is the number one killer in the U.S. but it wasn't always so. Before 1910, heart and artery disease wasn't even a major cause of death. Obviously something changed. Something in the environment or some change in diet or nutrition changed. What was it? It wasn't because suddenly cities started having "smog". In industrial cities there was a lot of factory smoke and particulates, but not "smog" as it is constituted today with a lot of car exhaust fumes. What was it? At the time of World War I, major chemical companies started producing large amounts of chlorine. Chlorine is a highly poisonous gas. It was used as a weapon in the war. Starting about the time the war ended, U.S. cities started using chlorine to kill bacteria in public water supplies. It worked. Chlorine does kill germs. But it also does something else. Chlorine acts in combination with saturated fats to produce a hard coating on the inside of arteries and blood vessels. This coating is called "plaque". This causes "hardening of the arteries". It's also called "Cardiopulmonary disease" and/or atherosclerosis. And now you know.the rest of the story. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: There Goes the Ozone Layer
In a message dated 06/04/2000 11:40:07 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can fill a balloon with dirt and it will fall to the ground too, but I have seen dust (dirt) in the air many times. a cold (hydrogen) balloon will not float cold smoke will not float but wind can pick up either one and carry it. I have lived in West Texas so I have certainly seen a lot of dust in the air. Yes the winds can lift things into the air which are heavier than air. However these heavier particles and molecules do settle out. If you fly much, you will notice that even on windy and dusty days, the dust is mostly below 10,000 ft. But this isn't even the point. Even if minute quantities of CFC gasses make it up to above 30,000 ft. the amount is absolutely unimportant. Why? Chlorine is the culprit. Chlorine is the first C in CFC. Chlorine is what destroys ozone on contact. Chlorine is produced is great quantities by the oceans. So much so, that the chlorine in all the CFCs ever produced is negligible in comparison. The Ozone Layer is extremely important to all life on earth. The Ozone Layer is being disturbed by manmade technology. But the Ozone Layer is not being harmed by CFCs. This is the "Cover Story" which has been fed to the public. It simply is not true. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bilderberg-participants, year 2000 in Belgium
In a message dated 06/04/2000 6:04:53 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question is, then: Who are the Bilderbergers' employers? ### We know that there is no such thing as the Bilderbergers, because Rush Limbaugh has told us so. (Many times) There is also no such thing as the Council on Foreign Relations, or if there is, we can be sure it's innocent and harmless, because Rush Limbaugh has told us so. What's funny is that Limbaugh openly states on the air, "You don't have to think...I will think for you and I will tell you what's important." So the "Dittoheads" let Rush think for them. Hey...Rush says there is no such thing as a "Conspiracy" and that anybody who thinks they exist is a total whacko. This sounds just like Professor Jerry Mander doesn't it? Notice Herr Henry Kissinger is once more in attendance at this meeting. (I think he's made about all of them) Let's not forget Kissinger's infamous quote from the Bilderberg Meeting in Evian France several years ago: "Today the people of Los Angeles would be outraged if U.N. troops were patrolling the streets of L.A. Tomorrow, they will be grateful." Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: There Goes the Ozone Layer
In a message dated 06/02/2000 11:51:44 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OZONE HOLE OVER ARCTIC SURPRISES RESEARCH TEAM by David Perlman, Science Editor San Francisco Chronicle, May 31, 2000 "The findings are surprising because scientists had expected that the protective ozone layer would recover after ozone-destroying chemicals known as chlorofluorocarbons, or CFCs, were banned by international treaty four years ago." __ THIS REPORT IS A LIE! IT IS PURE UNADULTERATED BULLHOCKEY! THIS ISN'T AN OPINION.IT IS A FACT! HERE IS THE TRUTH. CFC gasses (chlorofluorocarbons) are five time heavier than air. If you fill a balloon with CFC gas (Freon), tie off the balloon and then release the balloonIT WILL IMMEDIATELY FALL TO THE GROUND! It does not rise into the air as a balloon filled with helium will do. OK.so what? Soheavy CFC gas molecules do not rise high into the atmosphere and destroy the Ozone Layer which is 12 to 30 miles above the earth's surface. THERE ARE NO CFC GASSES 12 TO 30 MILES UP IN THE SKY! Even if some were intentionally released at high altitude, the CFC gas molecules would sink through the air back down to the earth's surface. Once there, they would find the lowest hole or crack they could sink into and stay there. This is basic laws of physics. CFC molecules are extremely stable. They do not readily break down. Then tend to remain intact. The last "C" in CFC stands for Carbon. Carbon is heavy. Carbon is the main reason that CFC molecules are much heavier than air. The following statement in this newspaper report is true but misleading: "Highly reactive chlorine can destroy ozone molecules on contact..." Correct. Chlorine does destroy ozone. However, the world's oceans naturally release millions of times more chlorine than all of the CFC gasses ever produced! Volcanoes also produce vast amounts of chlorine gas. One large volcano such as Mt. St. Helen's or Mt. Penitubo in the Phillipines, sprew vast amounts of chlorine gas into the air. But the ozone layer has existed for millions of years despite these large quantities of chlorine produced by the oceans and by volcanoes. SO WHY ARE WE BEING LIED TO ABOUT THIS?? WHY ARE FALSE AND MISLEADING NEWS STORIES LIKE THIS ONE BEING PUT OUT IN THE ALLEGED NEWS MEDIA? BECAUSE THE OZONE LAYER IS BEING DISTURBED AND AFFECTED AND A "COVER STORY" WAS NEEDED. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT IS AFFECTING THE OZONE LAYER, YOU SHOULD READ THE BOOK: ANGELS DON'T PLAY THIS HAARP BY DR. NICK BEGICH. IT'S AVAILABLE FROM AMAZON.COM THE OFFICIAL LITERATURE ABOUT HAARP CLEARLY STATES THAT IT'S PURPOSE IS: "...TO CONTROL THE IONOSPHERE FOR MILITARY PURPOSES". THINK ABOUT THAT! "TO CONTROL THE IONOSPHERE FOR MILITARY PURPOSES" THE OFFICIAL LITERATURE ALSO STATES THAT HAARP HAS A DESIGNED CAPABILITY TO "ALTER THE GAS COMPOSITION OF THE IONOSPHERE" NOW YOU KNOW...THE REST OF THE STORY! Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ==== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE FREE PRESS--DEAD AND BURIED
Quoted From: John A. Quinn/NewsHawk Inc THE FREE PRESS--DEAD AND BURIED "What's one of the most distressing things to me is the ever-increasing degree to which the major news/information media have blatantly become a party to promulgating and fostering some of the most egregious and destructive of the many coverups, disinformation campaigns and distractive, meaningless manufactured news events which the covert government is disseminating, all for the purpose of diverting our energy and attention from significant--even vital--issues. In other words, we are getting almost pure crap from the mass media regarding almost any issue of any importance whatsoever--most certainly on any information which would tend to give the lie to those deeply embedded traditional concepts held on the part of a large percentage of humanity (including many North Americans); concepts which bolster the global position of the "powers that be" and to enable further exploitation of the human race." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DOES ANYONE CARE?
I'm guessing that several of you who contribute to this List have felt and experienced this. Regards to All Nakano _ "If you waste your time talkin to the people who don't listen to the things that you are sayin who do you think's gonna hear? And if you should die explainin how the things that they complain about are things they could be changin, who do you think's gonna care? They're been other lonely singers in a world turned deaf and blind who were crucified for what they tried to show. And their voices have been scattered by the swirling winds of time, cause the truth remains that no one wants to know." -Kris Kristofferson A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Cancer And The Constitution
u read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ======== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NYP: Morris-WHO KNOCKED OUT RUDY? (fwd)
In a message dated 05/22/2000 11:23:38 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Clintons would never be so crass as to leave their fingerprints on this dirty trick. They would do it through one of their operatives, lawyers, donors, consultants, staffers or henchmen. Just like they always have. Woman after woman has been demonized by their secret police - usually on orders from Hillary - and have had their past dragged through the mud and leaked to the press to discredit their accounts of the president's sexually predatory practices. Did Rudy Giuliani fall victim to the same detectives who preyed on Kathleen Willey, Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick, Dolly Kyle Browning, Elizabeth Ward Grayson? Did the Clintons' penchant for the politics of personal destruction ruin Giuliani's Senate bid just as it was once trained on the likes of Bob Livingston, Henry Hyde and Bob Barr? Journalistic ethics bar The Post from revealing who tipped them off, but reporters need to ask tough questions of other sources to try to learn who outed Rudy. Smearing with scandal is the Clintons' MO. When a politician running against a Clinton conveniently falls down so close to a nominating convention, we are entitled to probe who leaked the information that led to the knock-out punch. A year ago, Giuliani was riding high in political popularity. Even democrats had to admit he had been a effective mayor. The early polls, taken when Hillary first announced for the NY senate seat, showed Giuliani with a sizeable lead. But since then, it is as though the guy has been under a curse. It's been one bad thing after another. 4 of New York's finest gunned down an unarmed black man in front of his home in New York. Giuliani's lead shrank considerably in the aftermath. Next, Mayor Giuliani was diagnosed with prostate cancer and his entire political future was suddenly in question. But Giuliani wouldn't quit. The final blow in the string of curses which befell him was " the announcement of plans for a legal separation from his wife of 16 years, Donna Hanover. Hanover retorted with her own bombshell, publicly accusing him of having had an affair with a former staffer." When Bill Clinton has this sort of thing and much worse revealed, his popularity only increases. Gennifer Flowers comes forward and talks about their long-running affair, and it has no effect. Paula Jones.no effect. Kathleen Willeyno effect. Juanita Broaddrickno effect. (Broaddrick told a nationwide TV audience that Clinton had raped her. Clinton has never even bothered to deny it.) Does anyone remember Senator Gary Hart? His presidential campaign was ruined by a single photograph of a young woman, Donna Rice, sitting in his lap on the yacht "Monkey Business". But nothing sticks to Clinton "the comeback kid". Has anyone noticed the amazing "good luck" which has rescued Bill and Hillary time and again at critical moments? Or perhaps it would be more accurate to say has anyone noticed the incredible string of bad luck with has befallen many people who have opposed the Clintons or stood in their way? Jim McDougal died in solitary confinement just hours before he was scheduled to testify about "Whitewater". His testimony may well have led to a criminal indictment against Hillary, but of course that chance died with McDougal. It seems that many people who have opposed Bill and Hillary have suddenly had an evil turn of fortunes just as if they had been cursed by some dark spiritual power. Those who are familiar with the long list of people connected with William Jefferson Clinton who have died under strange and mysterious circumstances should perhaps add Mayor Giuliani's political death to the list. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/ar
[CTRL] 30 AIR FORCE SPRAY PLANES
Does anyone remember hearing this radio program? This was back in 1995, on the Art Bell "Coast to Coast" radio show. Art interviewed a guest who had written a book on the subject of money wasted by the government. He talked about $1,000. toilet seats and $500. hammers, the usual examples. Art Bell asked the guest if he had found an instance where it turned out not to be money wasted? The man replied: "Yes. I learned that the U.S. Air Force was equiping thirty 4 engined jet transports with agricultural type spray equipment. I thought at first this must be another boondoggle. So I asked the Air Force about it. The Air Force replied that these 30 jets with sprayers to fly a special mission. They were being prepared to spray chemicals at high altitude to absorb the CFC gasses that are destroying the ozone layer." I called in to the Art Bell Show and got on the air with Art and his guest. I told them the Air Force had given a false "cover story". My comments were about as follows: I am not giving you opinion but facts which you can check for yourself. Get a can of Freon (CFC gas). Fill a balloon with the gas and tie it off, like the helium-filled balloons we are familiar with. Thenrelease the balloon. It will immediately fall to the floor and stay there. Freon is about five times heavier than air. When released, it goes to the lowest level it can find. There are no CFC gases at 40,000 feet in the atmosphere. CFC gases are not high in the atmosphere destroying the ozone layer. Many scientist know about this and are willing to come forward and say so. The so-called news media will not give them any coverage. Sothe Air Force admitted the 30 jet spray planes. The question is: What are those planes really sprayingand why? Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Nealz Nuze Editorial
In a message dated 05/24/2000 6:31:57 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's Republican. The culprit is none other than Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah. _ His full name is Orrin Rodham Hatch..or it should be. And the search for "meth labs" is the lame excuse the BATF gave to then Texas Governor Ann Richards when they requested and got Texas Air National Guard helicopters for the raid on the Branch Davidians at Waco. Hey...if it worked once...why not tell the same lie again and again? The people never catch on. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Heston to Gore: Take My Gun 'From My Cold, Dead Hands'
In a message dated 05/22/2000 7:30:35 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: President Charlton Heston told a cheering crowd of 20,000 delegates to the 3.6-million-member National Rifle Association convention that this symbol of his Second Amendment right to gun ownership would be taken from him by Al Gore quot;from "my cold, dead hands." The cold minds engineering the One World Order fully intend to do what Charlton Heston has dared Gore to do. Gore is only a "front man". So is Bush. The dark forces behind them are determined to completely disarm the American People. For those of us who resist, they do indeed plan to pry our guns from our cold dead hands. That is the plan. Slaves must not be allowed to have weapons. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 'the yellow-fringed flag'
In a message dated 05/21/2000 2:41:03 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "On March 5, 1998, Monterey County Municipal Court Judge Albert Maldonado, in the case of PEOPLE v ROBERT GARVIN MOORE, stated on the record that the yellow fringed flag displayed in his courtroom puts the court under Admiralty Jurisdiction." I have no objection to anyone burning a U.S. flag that has a gold fringe on it.in fact, I will light the match! Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Giuliani, A string of bad luck??
NEW YORK ââ Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, his political ambitions derailed by prostate cancer and a nasty split with his wife, abandoned his Senate campaign against Hillary Rodham Clinton on Friday. ___ A year ago, Giuliani was riding high in political popularity. Even democrats had to admit he had been a effective mayor. The early polls, taken when Hillary first announced for the NY senate seat, showed Giuliani with a sizeable lead. But since then, it is as though the guy has been under a curse. It's been one bad thing after another. 4 of New York's finest gunned down an unarmed black man in front of his home in New York. Giuliani's lead shrank considerably in the aftermath. Next, Mayor Giuliani was diagnosed with prostate cancer and his entire political future was suddenly in question. But Giuliani wouldn't quit. The final blow in the string of curses which befell him was " the announcement of plans for a legal separation from his wife of 16 years, Donna Hanover. Hanover retorted with her own bombshell, publicly accusing him of having had an affair with a former staffer." When Bill Clinton has this sort of thing and much worse revealed, his popularity only increases. Jennifer Flowers comes forward and talks about their long-running affair, and it has no effect. Paula Jones...no effect. Catherine Willey.no effect. Juanita Broadrickno effect. (Broadrick told a nationwide TV audience that Clinton had raped her. Clinton has never even bothered to deny it.) Does anyone remember Senator Gary Hart? His presidential campaign was ruined by a single photograph of a young woman, Donna Rice, sitting in his lap on the yacht "Monkey Business". But nothing sticks to Clinton "the comeback kid". Has anyone noticed the amazing "good luck" which has rescued Bill and Hillary time and again at critical moments? Or perhaps it would be more accurate to say has anyone noticed the incredible string of bad luck with has befallen many people who have opposed the Clintons or stood in their way? Jim McDougal died in solitary confinement just hours before he was scheduled to testify about "Whitewater". His testimony may well have led to a criminal indictment against Hillary, but of course that chance died with McDougal. It seems that many people who have opposed Bill and Hillary have suddenly had an evil turn of fortunes just as if they had been cursed by some dark spiritual power. Those who are familiar with the long list of people connected with William Jefferson Clinton who have died under strange and mysterious circumstances should perhaps add Mayor Giuliani's political death to the list. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hillary Saved by McDougal's Death [a must must must read]
" "The astonishing turn of events that spared the first lady from indictment." ASTONISHING EVENTS INDEED! Has anyone noticed the amazing "good luck" which has rescued Bill and Hillary time and again at critical moments. Or perhaps it would be more accurate to say has anyone noticed the incredible string of bad luck with has befallen many people who have opposed the Clintons or stood in their way? Jim McDougal died in solitary confinement just hours before he was scheduled to testify about "Whitewater". Hillary was well behind Mayor Rudolph Giuliani in the polls when 4 of New York's finest gunned down an unarmed black man in front of his home in New York. Giuliani's lead shrank considerably in the aftermath. Next, Mayor Giuliani was diagnosed with prostate cancer and his entire political future was suddenly in question. But Giuliani wouldn't quit. The final blow in the string of curses which befell him was " the announcement of plans for a legal separation from his wife of 16 years, Donna Hanover. Hanover retorted with her own bombshell, publicly accusing him of having had an affair with a former staffer." It seems that many people who have opposed Bill and Hillary have suddenly had an evil turn of fortunes just as if they had been cursed by some dark spiritual power. Those who are familiar with the long list of people connected with William Jefferson Clinton who have died under strange and mysterious circumstances should perhaps add Mayor Giuliani's political death to the list. Regards to All Nakano ___ "The astonishing turn of events that spared the first lady from indictment." "The biggest problem was the death a month earlier of Jim McDougal Without him, prosecutors would have a hard time describing the SL dealings they suspected Hillary Clinton had lied about." So when McDougal's jailers pulled him out of his regular cell for a drug test that chilly Texas Saturday night, they inadvertently did Mrs. Clinton a huge favor. "...guards tossed the key Whitewater witness into solitary confinement - after confiscating his heart drugs. Fellow inmates told McDougal biographer Curtis Wilkie that guards ignored the dying man's cries for help as he lapsed into cardiac arrest that night. At 10:30 a.m. guards "discovered" his body. Jim McDougal would never testify again. Two years later Mrs. Clinton, instead of planning her legal defense strategy, is strategizing on how to extend the Clinton era well into the 21st Century. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ======== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Half Million Moms March
Yesterday was Mother's Day. Depending on who's figures you believe, somewhere between 200,000 and 500,000 mothers (and others) spent their day in an effort to "reeducate" Americans as to the critical need for more rigid and restrictive gun laws. Their rhetoric was predictably inaccurate and misleading. The moms simply ignore hard statistical data from sources such as the FBI's Uniform Crime Report and the National Safety Council. The Mom's Day speakers told the crowd that: "12 children are shot and killed every day in America." According to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the figure is actually 1.7 deaths per day. While 110 children ages 1-14 died from gun accidents in 1998, 200 suffocated from ingested objects, 570 died from burns, 850 drowned, and 2,600 died in car accidents. The National Safety Council reports firearm accidents are at the lowest ever recorded, totaling 900 â down from 2,513 in 1974 Since 1993, the number of crimes committed with firearms has declined, falling to levels last experienced in the mid 1980s. The National Crime Survey (NCS) estimates that there are about 5.4 million violent crimes (both reported and unreported) and that guns of all types are involved in some 650,000 or 12 percent. In other words, 88 percent of violent crimes do not involve firearms. Homicide rates recently declined to levels last seen in the late 1960's. So what is all this hysteria about? It is about disarming the People of America. It should be clearly understood that this is the agenda of the forces behind the antigun movement. Most of the mothers who marched yesterday are, no doubt, sinceremisguided, but sincere. But the cold minds behind the program to disarm us have no such sincere and well-intentioned motives. The people of America have always been armed. We were armed before there was a central government in Washington. Whey are they afraid for us to be armed now? What are they planning that they dare not reveal until we are defenseless? Regards to All Nakano http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/welcome.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] HALF MILLION MOM MARCH
Yesterday was Mother's Day. Depending on who's figures you believe, somewhere between 200,000 and 500,000 mothers (and others) spent their day in an effort to "reeducate" Americans as to the critical need for more rigid and restrictive gun laws. Their rhetoric was predictably inaccurate and misleading. Listening to some of the speakers, one wonders if their bra size is larger than their IQ. The moms simply ignore hard statistical data from sources such as the FBI's Uniform Crime Report and the National Safety Council. The Mom's Day speakers told the crowd that: "12 children are shot and killed every day in America." According to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the figure is actually 1.7 deaths per day. While 110 children ages 1-14 died from gun accidents in 1998, 200 suffocated from ingested objects, 570 died from burns, 850 drowned, and 2,600 died in car accidents. The National Safety Council reports firearm accidents are at the lowest ever recorded, totaling 900 â down from 2,513 in 1974 Since 1993, the number of crimes committed with firearms has declined, falling to levels last experienced in the mid 1980s. The National Crime Survey (NCS) estimates that there are about 5.4 million violent crimes (both reported and unreported) and that guns of all types are involved in some 650,000 or 12 percent. In other words, 88 percent of violent crimes do not involve firearms. Homicide rates recently declined to levels last seen in the late 1960's. So what is all this hysteria about? It is about disarming the People of America. It should be clearly understood that this is the agenda of the forces behind the antigun movement. Most of the mothers who marched yesterday are, no doubt, sinceremisguided, but sincere. But the cold minds behind the program to disarm us have no such sincere and well-intentioned motives. The people of America have always been armed. We were armed before there was a central government in Washington. Whey are they afraid for us to be armed now? What are they planning that they dare not reveal until we are defenseless? Regards to All Nakano Reference: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/welcome.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Nonconsensual Brainwave/Personality Studies
In a message dated 05/13/2000 10:57:59 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmmm. RFR and chemtrails? _ CHEMTRAILS AND SPEED OF LIGHT WEAPONS Fact: The chemtrails are real. But the question is..."Why are they spraying?" This may be the answer: "...The idea expressed here is that depositing small amounts of chemicals in a person's physiological system, in amounts below normal levels where negative physical effects are known to occur, will ensure they have no perceivable effect until radio frequency radiation (RFR) is introduced. Once introduced, the RFR creates physiological reactions which are detrimental to the host." And so, how is the RFR introduced on a large-scale, perhaps hemisphere-wide...or even world-wide basis? HAARP and several other known such facilities around the world! The following are quotes from the book: "Angels Dont Play This HAARP" by Nich Begich. This may seem like a long email, but it's a lot shorter than the book. I am including here just the most pertinent information. __ the "...enhancement of 'anomalous phenomena' in individuals" "Techniques are needed to deposit RFR (radio frequency radiation) effects at selected (body) organ sites." "...We were distressed to read about the idea of using this technology to alter the way people think " Page l84. Note that HAARP is the most versatile and the largest radio-frequency-radiation transmitter in the world. Captain Paul Tyler wrote a chapter in "Low-Intensity Conflict and Modern Technology and points to applications which may already be somewhat developed. He points out that the uses of radio-frequency radiation may include enhancement of 'anomalous phenomena' in individuals. these could be A SENSORY OR SUPER-NORMAL PHENOMENA. Techniques are needed to deposit RFR (radio frequency radiation) effects at selected organ sites.These studies will require prudent extrapolation of physical and physiological data obtained from laboratory animals to humans in operational environments. The l982 Air Force report called for the research to be done so that the Air Force could develop hardware so that the radiation could be delivered through new weapons. A research publication commissioned by the Air Force - "Radio Frequency Dosimetry Handbook' described these models in time to meet the schedules they had put forward in 1982. The book gives mathematics for calculating the dosages (Dosimetry) of radio frequency radiation necessary to cause changes in animals and humans. ...This book compiled research spanning five decades and contains a bibliography which is 29 pages long. ...(page l85).More importantly the research behind it is being used to develop better methods of killing. Purpose; To change the central nervous system, cardiovascular system and the respiratory system (Page l85). The l982 Air Force report covering the use of radio frequency radiation in the new weapon systems contemplated by the Air Force was intended to change the central nervous system, cardiovascular system and the respiratory system. We were distressed to read about the idea of using this technology to alter the way people think in order to make the "enemy" of the government incapable of waging war. .. Page l86: The fact that these technologies are classified and hidden from the medical community denies humanity the opportunity to explore these areas for healing people rather than for destructive purposes. The report speaks about using this technology in a way which could interact with biological or chemical agentsit states: "It may be possible to sensitize large military groups to extremely dispersed amounts of biological and chemical agentsIt should be noted that this may require relatively low level RFR. The idea expressed here is that depositing small amounts of chemicals in a person's physiological system, in amounts below normal levels where negative physical effects are known to occur, will ensure they have no perceivable effect until radio frequency radiation (RFR) is introduced. Once introduced, the RFR creates physiological reactions which are detrimental to the host. This would allow individuals who are not exposed to the chemicals to then enter the area of the RFR without harm to their own bodies. When an operator tunes the RFR in just the right way, changes are caused in the energy state of atoms, which cause chemical reactions in the body, which in turn manifest as physiological or psychological changes. The introduction of small amounts of chemicals is a very important concept when cyclotron resonance is considered. The HAARP transmitter uses cyclotron resonance in radiating its energy transmissions into the atmosphere. The
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Montauk victim interview
The following is the most profoundly important message I have seen on this LIST. It needs to be read and reread carefully. The vibrational frequencies of evil and darkness are growing all around us. Even those who have no understanding of these realities are able to sense it. It absolutely does go all the way back to the eternal conflict between light and darkness, good and evil. The "dark forces in power of the planet at this time" are working in a frenzy to achieve a dimensional shift. You must be aware and respect the power of illusion. Nothing is what it seems to be. Regards to All Nakano _ "AP: For those who want to get out of the influence of the programs of mind control, you must have a strong fighting instinct to do what is right regardless of what others are doing. Your only cage is the one you build for yourself. You must connect with your highest self to break the evil that is all around us, and not succumb to doing evil just because everyone else is doing it. Retain your fundamental sense of right and wrong. It all goes back to the basic conflict basic good and evil. It is like the dark forces in power of the planet at this time are trying to cheat their way into heaven or higher dimensions." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] GUN SALES HALTED IN U.S.!
ALL RETAIL GUN SALES IN THE U.S. HAVE BEEN STOPPED! THINK ABOUT IT. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE MEMORY OF MOST AMERICANS YOU CAN'T GO TO A GUN DEALER AND BUY A GUN. THIS APPLIES TO ANY TYPE OF GUN. YOU CAN'T BUY A RIFLE OR A SHOTGUN. FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF. PICK UP YOUR TELEPHONE AND CALL A LOCAL GUN DEALER. IF YOU CAN FIND ONE OPEN FOR BUSINESS, ASK THEM IF YOU CAN COME IN A PURCHASE A GUN. THE ANSWER IS "NO". THERE ARE VARIOUS EXPLANATIONS SUCH AS THE FBI COMPUTERS HAVE A "GLITCH". UNOFFICIAL REPORTS SAY THAT GUN SALES WILL RETURN TO NORMAL IN 2 OR 3 DAYS. PERHAPS THEY WILL. BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY HAVE SAID OR THOUGHT "THIS COULD NEVER HAPPEN IN AMERICA" LOOK AT HOW EASILY THE GOVERNMENT CAN HALT THE SALE OF GUNS. THEY CAN DO IT ANYTIME THEY WISH. DOES ANYONE FEEL SAFER BECAUSE OF THIS? Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [slick-d] Fwd: All the prop. is going for banning all firearms
CORRECTED COPY In a message dated 05/13/2000 9:13:13 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Delegates to the quadrennial General Conference of the United Methodist Church voted by a 3-1 ratio to call on the federal government and other governments to outlaw "ownership by the general public of handguns, assault weapons, automatic weapon conversion kits and weapons that cannot be detected by traditionally used metal detection devices." __ Too bad that a delegate to the Methodist Conference didn't make the following proposal. Let everyone who wants to ban private gun ownership put up a large sign in front of their home worded as follows: "NO FIREARMS ARE PERMITTED IN THIS HOME. THE PEOPLE HERE ARE UNARMED." Those who are in favor of private gun ownership would put up a large sign in front of their homes worded as follows: "THIS HOME IS PROTECTED BY FIREARMS. THE OCCUPANTS ARE ARMED." Let's say this was done by law all over the country. Everyone had to have one sign or the other. Which homes do you think the crooks would go and rob? Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Ruling Cabal
d nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ============ Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [HELP] Waco Tank Driver Deaths? (fwd)
In a message dated 05/10/2000 2:55:00 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "the conspiracy that killed the people at Mount Carmel on April 19th 1993. Includes three National Guard personal that drove the tanks during the siege." And here is something at least as bizarre as the dead tank drivers. The following has been reported almost from day one of the events at Waco...but reported only by the "underground media" and never by the alleged national news media. Four BATF agents were killed in the initial assault on the Davidian Church in February of 1993. Each of the agents had served as bodyguards for Bill Clinton during the primaries and first general election in which he was elected president. Videotape taken life at the scene during the raid clearly showed agents climb up a ladder to get on the roof. One agent laid down on the roof with his weapon in a ready position, while 2 or 3 other agents smashed out a second story bedroom window. They climbed in through the window. Then the other agent who was still lying on the roof outside the window, got up and went to the window. He threw something inside and then fired into the room with his automatic or semiauto rifle. At that point about 4 or 5 holes suddenly appeared in the wall. This may have been gunfire from inside or shrapnel from an explosion, as from a grenade. The point is, he clearly fired in through the window and into the room that 2 or 3 agents had just entered! I have seen that tape many times. Local television stations in Austin, Texas broadcast that video repeatedly the day of the raid and for a week thereafter. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Boom times (was):sending ur kid
In a message dated 05/07/2000 9:00:14 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Coca-cola from a machine cost fifteen cents. Phone calls cost a dime. If this system is so great, how come economic life has been getting steadily worse since before most people were born? If we are really in an economic boom (as the media tells us) how come the typical couple works 70 hours a week to make ends meet? I think these are not boom times, at least not for workers. I think that the media lies. ___ Thank you for sharing this information. Those of us old enough to remember what life in America used to be, need to keep reminding those not old enough to have a perspective on the present state of affairs. I'm older than you. When I was a kid, gas was 22 cents a gallon and for a Quarter you could go to a Saturday morning double feature movie which included a bag of popcorn and a soda! When most people hear these price comparisons they just shrug and say something like: "Well yes things were cheaper way back then. We've had "inflation" but people didn't get paid nearly as much as they do now.it's all relative." THERE IS SOMETHING VITALLY IMPORTANT WHICH NEEDS TO BE UNDERSTOOD HERE! OUR MONEY HAS BEEN DEVALUED! There is a huge difference between inflation and currency devaluation. For example: Let's take an honest hardworking man...let's say a carpenter, and we'll call him Joe. Joe graduated from high school in 1947 and started working. He was a good reliable worker and times were good. The home construction industry was booming. Joe was careful to save 10 percent of his pay because he knew that someday he would need it for retirement. Joe didn't trust banks because of the stories his parents had told him about the Great Depression. So he put a safe in the floor of his basement and kept his savings there. The years went by and Joe saved 10 percent of all he earned. Wages slowly increased over time, so he earned more, but he noticed that taxes and prices went up a little faster than his earnings. Even though it got harder and harder to save money, Joe did without other things so he could save 10 percent of what he made. Joe worked hard for 47 years. He had a heart attack at age 66. Joe decided it was time to retire. He owned his home "free and clear". Joe had earned about one million dollars in his 47 years. He saved almost exactly $100,000. 10 percent of his earnings. But Joe made a very grim discovery. THE DOLLARS HE HAD PUT IN HIS SAFE HAD SHRUNK! A dollar Joe put in his safe in 1950, was now worth only about 8 cents! It was as if someone had broken into his safe and stolen 92 cents out of every dollar he had saved that year. The dollar he put in his safe in 1960, was now worth only 10 cents! The effect was exactly the same as if Joe had been robbed of his hard-earned money. In 1960, Joe earned $410. a month. By 1970, Joe's pay had doubled to $820 a month. By 1980, Joe's pay had more than doubled up to $2,000. a month By 1990, Joe's pay had more than doubled again...up to $4,500 a month. This may appear to look good on paper, but the sad reality is that taxes and prices went up even faster than Joe's pay. Joe had more "disposable income" in 1960 than he had in 1990. In fact, the property taxes on Joe's home had increased over the years to the point that when Joe retired in 1995, his property taxes were higher than his house payment had been on his 30 year mortgage! The $100,000. in life savings would have been a comfortable retirement fund in 1950. Today it will provide a poverty-level income for about 4 years. Joe realized he could not afford to pay the property taxes on the home he thought he owned "free and clear". He also realized his $100,000 savings wasn't going to last very long. Joe had no choice but to sell his home and move into a lower priced home in an area where taxes were also less. Joe also realized that even with Social Security added to his savings, his retirement years wern't going to be "golden". How can this be? How can it be that in America, the richest country in the world, that people can work hard all their lives and end up broke? The brutal truth is: We have been robbed! And we continue to be robbed! According to Biblical Law and our Constitution, we are supposed to have a dollar which is a "fixed standard of value". If we had such a "fixed standard", then the dollars Joe saved in 1950 would be worth the same today as then. Joe was robbed, just as if a thief had broken in and taken his money. If it had happened that way, Joe would have understood what happened. But because he was robbed slowly over time by another method, he doesn't understand. Americans are now going broke on the amount of money they used to dream about making. This is because of the twin robbers of currency devaluation and high taxes. Right now we are h
Re: [CTRL] WND: Retired general's advice
In a message dated 05/06/2000 12:50:27 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sex and perjury were the wrong impeachment offenses. It should have been on his treachery and failure to live up to his oath of office." -- U.S. Army Gen. Albion Knight, Jr. (Ret.) __ Yes these were the wrong chargesthe question is: Why were these the charges? Why weren't the right charges brought against him? Implicit in these questions is another question: Why wasn't there a real trial with witnesses in the Senate? Every lawyer who has ever handled a traffic ticket for a client knows and understands "Why?" Here is a description of the deal that was made to get Clinton "off the hook". To illustrate - let's say you get a speeding ticket. They clocked you on radar...you were 20 MPH over the limit. They've gotcha. So you call a lawyer who handles tickets and turn it over to him or her. The lawyer simply makes a standard deal with the traffic court, it's done all over the country every day. 1. The Court changes the charge against you from speeding to a "non-moving violation". 2. The lawyer enters an automatic guilty plea. 3. You pay the fine for the non-moving violation and of course you pay the lawyer for "fixing" your ticket. So, the Court got paid.the lawyer got paid.and you benefitted because non-moving violations don't make your insurance rates go up. The House and the Senate simply played a variation of this game. They let Clinton plead guilty to a "non-impeachable offense". Let that sink in for a moment. They made all kinds of speechesdid all kinds of blustering and posturing in front of the cameras.but they made a deal to let Clinton plead guilty to a "non-impeachable offense" just like the "non-moving violation". There is nothing in our Constitution about presidents having sex with interns in the Oval Office. So the so-called news media focused attention entirely on Clinton's sexual adventures with Monica.and the public ate it up! The evening TV news and the papers made it seem like Monica was the entire story. It was even better than the daytime TV Soap Operas. The attitude of most people was: "They shouldn't remove Clinton from office for having sex with Monica nor for lying about it." This prevailing attitude made it easy for Congress to let him off. So Clinton went on TV and admitted he had "mislead people". He said he was sorry. Notice that he never did really come out and confess, he just made some oblique references. That was his "guilty plea" to the "non-impeachable offense". Remember that many senators repeated these very words. They made speeches about Clinton's "reprehensible behavior", but said it did not constitute an impeachable offense. General Knight nails it when he said these were the wrong charges. They absolutely were. It was planned that way. And it worked like a charm. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ======== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] sending ur kid 2 'public' school is Child Abuse
In a message dated 05/06/2000 7:58:34 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Parents: Wake Up!! THE WHOLE FUTURE OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!! You have four alternatives to educate your children: ___ Home School"if one parent doesn't have to work..." Private School..."if you've got the bucks" First I want to assure you I agree fully with you. This is not an argument, but an explanation. According to official information from the Congressional Budget Office: In 1950, most American families were single income families. The prevailing pattern was that dad worked and provided the income to support the family and mom was home with the children and running the household. (This is arguably the most important job in the world). Single income families had a good standard of living. HOW COULD THEY DO THAT IN 1950? WHY CAN'T THEY DO THAT NOW? HERE'S WHY! In 1950, the average American family paid only FIVE PERCENT of its annual income for taxes! That's a total of 5 percent of annual income for all taxes including local, state and federal! Today, the average family pays over half of its income for taxes! Read that again! TODAY, THE AVERAGE FAMILY PAYS OVER ONE HALF OF ITS ANNUAL INCOME FOR TAXES!!! THIS IS WHY MOST FAMILIES TODAY ARE DUAL INCOME FAMILIES. ONE SPOUSE WORKS TO PAY THE TAXES, ONE SPOUSE WORKS TO PAY THE FAMILY'S BILLS AND EXPENSES. On top of the above reality, the government indoctrination centers (commonly called public schools), and the national media have spread the doctrine that there is something wrong with a woman who doesn't have a career outside the home. So for a high percentage of families, homeschooling presents some nearly insurmountable obstacles. And with half of the income going to all taxes in various forms, only a small percentage have the money for private schooling. Mandatory public schooling is the 10th Plank of The Communist Manifesto. And most people think it's as American as apple pie. I applaud and salute all parents who homeschool their children. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] global gag rule
Actually Duncan - whilst those figures are subject to contention - try calling those killings "genocide" and one is legally wrong as mass murder for political reasons was apparently absent from the relevant UN Convention thanks to pressure from those same enlightened socialists around the time it was first concocted. But commit the odious act of causing "mental harm" against a racial or ethnic group and then one is a genocidal brigand according to the Convention It's a funny world. BD A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Rhodes- S G Millin 2
THERE is a photograph of Rhodes which shows him at the age of about twenty. In this photograph the face is thin and delicate, it is a face very different from the big, ruthless, powerful face of the later Rhodes. The transformation into the "later Rhodes" with the "big ruthless face" was the product of serious heart condition. A good explanation can be found in Rotberg's rather impressive bio "The Founder." BD A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More Nexus Paranoia from Dunks
I've been collecting Nexus since 1990 and it is from my point of view distressingly bereft of controversial political commentary. New Dawn, which has run articles extolling the virtues of North Korea and Stalin as well as a smattering of more typical conspiracy stuff, is far more political. Nexus fits into many sections of the newsagency, but it doesn't belong amongst the political mags... BD. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] No politics in NEXUS Magazine?
Well now, to be "controversial", political commentary does not have to fit it into the much abused "left/right paradigm" - which seems to be the favoured terminology that some wags use to illustrate their supposed elevation above the fray although in reality they are not. In fact your assertions that "both left wing and right wing political machines are manipulated by people who are into power, money and control" and that politics is "mindless idiocy" seems like rather controversial political comment to me. Every article you print on the CFR or Bilderbergers or Illuminati or other allegations about cabals is pretty damn controversial as it conflicts with what the media tends to gloss over for various and it most certainly is about politics. My gripe is that there isn't enough of it! BD A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [slick-d] THE BAY OF PIGS
In a message dated 05/01/2000 10:25:27 PM Central Daylight Time, JCC21K writes: In a message dated 04/30/2000 10:23:25 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 04/30/2000 4:26:16 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: shouldn't Congress be doing something about negating these? Why are they allowing presidents to abuse power? And how did our presidents get so much power to begin with? __ Hello Sherry, The answer to your first question is "Yes!" The answer as to "why" they haven't done anything and are not doing anything is not easily answered. There is no single answer, but I think the roots of it are fear and greed. But, if you focus on your last question "How?" there is much solid information to be mined. Please read carefully the following excerpts from Franklin Roosevelt's first Inaugural Speech. FDR plainly stated his intentions. Remember that at that moment in 1933, the darkness of deep and serious depression covered the land. The American People were desperate. Events had been orchestrated so they would be desperate and receptive to Roosevelt's "New Deal". This is the answer as to "How it was done". Regards to All Nakano Franklin Delano Roosevelt's 1st Inaugural by Franklin Delano Roosevelt President Hoover, Mr. Chief Justice, my friends: This is a day of national consecration, and I am certain that my fellow-Americans expect that on my induction into the Presidency I will address them with a candor and a decision which the present situation of our nation impels. This is pre-eminently the time to speak the truth, the whole truth, frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honestly facing conditions in our country today. This great nation will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper. So first of all let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear. . .is fear itself. . . nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance. In every dark hour of our national life a leadership of frankness and vigor has met with that understanding and support of the people themselves which is essential to victory. I am convinced that you will again give that support to leadership in these critical days. In such a spirit on my part and on yours we face our common difficulties. They concern, thank God, only material things. Values have shrunken to fantastic levels: taxes have risen, our ability to pay has fallen, government of all kinds is faced by serious curtailment of income, the means of exchange are frozen in the currents of trade, the withered leaves of industrial enterprise lie on every side, farmers find no markets for their produce, the savings of many years in thousands of families are gone. More important, a host of unemployed citizens face the grim problem of existence, and an equally great number toil with little return. Only a foolish optimist can deny the dark realities of the moment. Yet our distress comes from no failure of substance. We are stricken by no plague of locusts. Compared with the perils which our forefathers conquered because they believed and were not afraid, we have still much to be thankful for. Nature still offers her bounty and human efforts have multiplied it. Plenty is at our doorstep, but a generous use of it languishes in the very sight of the supply. Primarily, this is because the rulers of the exchange of mankind's goods have failed through their own stubbornness and their own incompetence, have admitted their failures and abdicated. Practices of the unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men. True, they have tried, but their efforts have been cast in the pattern of an outworn tradition. Faced by failure of credit, they have proposed only the lending of more money. Stripped of the lure of profit by which to induce our people to follow their false leadership, they have resorted to exhortations, pleading tearfully for restored conditions. They know only the rules of a generation of self-seekers. They have no vision, and when there is no vision the people perish. The money changers have fled their high seats in the temple of our civilization. We may now restore that temple to the ancient truths. Our Constitution is so simple and practical that it is possible always to meet extraordinary needs by changes in emphasis and arrangement without loss of essential form. That is why our constitutional system has proved itself the most superbly enduring political mechanism the modern world has produced. It has met every stress of vast expansion of territory, of foreign wars, of bitter internal strife, of world relations. It is to be hoped that the normal balance of executive and legislative authorit
Re: [CTRL] Who wrote this?
I can't help you out on where this came from, but this is great stuff! I am not arguing at all with whoever wrote this, but I do want to offer one correction. It's about this: "...Do your Revisionist History Books Forget to Mention the Japanese Attacked Pearl Harbor without any Probvocation." Japan was provoked and prodded into the attack on Pearl Harbor. A few historical notes. 1. At least 6 months prior to Pearl Harbor, Roosevelt halted U.S. oil exports to Japan. (Japan has no domestic oil. Denial of a vital strategic resource is an act of war. We went to war against Iraq on just the possibility that arab oil would be cut off...it never was.) 2. Several months prior to Pearl Harbor, Roosevelt closed the Panama Canal to Japanese shipping. This vital waterway was supposed to be guaranteed open for the use of all nations. 3. The final straw was when Roosevelt delivered an ultimatum demanding that the Japanese get their military forces out of Manchuria. Roosevelt had campaigned for his third term as the "peace candidate". He said: "I am not about to send your sons to fight and die in another european war." Public opinion was very strongly against the U.S. entering the war. Roosevelt's problem was how to turn this around? How could he not only change the peoples minds, but actually get large numbers of Americans to actually DEMAND WAR? PEARL HARBOR!THE DAY OF INFAMY! The U.S. had broken the Japanese Imperial Code around a year before Pearl Harbor. Roosevelt and his inner circle not only knew the Japanese fleet was coming.THEY PLANNED IT THAT WAY! Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] HAARP/ELF Induced Air Travel Actions (IATA)
In a message dated 04/30/2000 12:13:20 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In depth testing of representative 'safety-of-flight-critical' avionics by the Boeing Company has revealed that navigational and communications equiprment will malfunction when they come under the influence of artificial ELF magnetic and voltage fields. . PRECISELY! EVEN VERY SMALL MAGNETIC AND VOLTAGE FIELDS CAN CAUSE MALFUNCTION OF CRITICAL NAVIGATION ELECTRONICS ON AIRCRAFT. THIS IS WHY THEY MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR PASSENGERS TO TURN OFF THEIR LAPTOPS AND PHONES PRIOR TO LANDINGS. NOWIF VERY SMALL MAGNETIC AND VOLTAGE FIELDS CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS, JUST IMAGINE WHAT ONE BILLION WATTS OF EFFECTIVE RADIATED POWER CAN DO TO AN AIRLINER! HASN'T THERE BEEN AN UNUSUAL NUMBER OF STRANGE AIR DISASTERS IN THE PAST FEW YEARS? THE CRASH OF SEC. OF COMMERCE RON BROWN'S PLANE? (THAT WAS BLAMED ON "NAVAGATIONAL ERROR") TWA FLIGHT 800? KAL 801? SWISSAIR MD-11 FLIGHT 111? EGYPT AIR 990? (MYSTERIOUSLY PLUNGED INTO THE OCEAN) HAARP IS PLANNED TO HAVE POWER INCREASED TO 4.7 BILLION WATTS!! IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER SIMILAR FACILITIES AROUND THE WORLD AND MORE UNDER CONSTRUCTION! STRANGE STUFF!! REGARDS TO ALL NAKANO A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is Elian Being Used to Divert Attention from State Dept. Security ...
Has the White House "diverted attention"? Of course.this is standard operating policy. But there is far more involved than covering up the theft of a laptopvastly more. And it isn't just the White House. The alleged "news media" is the instrument which creates the illusion the public accepts as reality. For the last 4 weeks the national "news media" has been totally focused on the story of 6 year old Elian Gonzales. It's been on the covers of Time and Newsweek. The TV networks are devoting half of their evening news to this one story. Four years ago on this date, the national "news media" was totally focused on another child.a 7 year old girl. It made the cover of Time and Newsweek. The TV networks were devoting half of their evening news to this one story.remember? 7-year-old flier's funeral ends the saga April 15, 1996 PESCADERO, California (CNN) -- Accompanied by a throng of media photographers, friends and relatives of 7-year-old Jessica Dubroff gathered to say goodbye to the little girl who dreamed of flying a small plane across the country. Dubroff's dream ended Thursday when her Cessna Cardinal 177 crashed shortly after take-off from Cheyenne, Wyoming. Jessica, her father and flight instructor were killed in the crash. Other "news stories" the national media have been totally focused on include: The murder of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey. The O.J. Simpson murder trial. The death of Princess Diane. The Lorena Bobbit husband castration episode. The Tonya Harding vs Nancy Kerrigan ice skating feud. The William Kennedy Smith rape trial. The Anita Hill charges against Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas. The murder of homosexual Matthew Shepherd. And of course the endless news stories about Clinton and Monica Lewinski, including the congressional hearings and the impeachment trial. Americans love Soap Opera melodrama. The "news media" is only too happy to keep "totally focused" on whatever it can find and pump up to hold the public's attention. And while America is "totally focused" on little Elian or big Monica, the real newsthe events of real importance to the life of this nation and the world, go totally unreported. We are a nation of sleepwalkers. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ======== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Electronic Mind Control
In a message dated 04/29/2000 2:32:17 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Always run down and irritable? Not feeling yourself? Well maybe that's because you're not yourself, rather, you are being controlled from somewhere else by someone or something else. I just found some really intriguing information in Nich Begich's book which may explain the "CHEMTRAILS"and at least a partial explanation about one of the functions of HAARP. Fact: The chemtrails are real...I have seen them many times and they have been photographed all over north America. But the question is..."Why are they spraying?" This may be the answer: "...The idea expressed here is that depositing small amounts of chemicals in a person's physiological system, in amounts below normal levels where negative physical effects are known to occur, will ensure they have no perceivable effect until radio frequency radiation (RFR) is introduced. Once introduced, the RFR creates physiological reactions which are detrimental to the host." And so, how is the RFR introduced on a large-scale, perhaps hemisphere-wide...or even world-wide basis? HAARP and the several other known such facilities around the world! Regards to All Nakano (Quotes from "Angels Don't Play This HAARP" by Dr. Nick Begich the "...enhancement of 'anomalous phenomena' in individuals" "Techniques are needed to deposit RFR (radio frequency radiation) effects at selected (body) organ sites." "...We were distressed to read about the idea of using this technology to alter the way people think " Page l84. Note that HAARP is the most versatile and the largest radio-frequency-radiation transmitter in the world. Captain Paul Tyler wrote a chapter in "Low-Intensity Conflict and Modern Technology and points to applications which may already be somewhat developed. He points out that the uses of radio-frequency radiation may include enhancement of 'anomalous phenomena' in individuals. these could be A SENSORY OR SUPER-NORMAL PHENOMENA. Techniques are needed to deposit RFR (radio frequency radiation) effects at selected organ sites.These studies will require prudent extrapolation of physical and physiological data obtained from laboratory animals to humans in operational environments. The l982 Air Force report called for the research to be done so that the Air Force could develop hardware so that the radiation could be delivered through new weapons. A research publication commissioned by the Air Force - "Radio Frequency Dosimetry Handbook' described these models in time to meet the schedules they had put forward in 1982. The book gives mathematics for calculating the dosages (Dosimetry) of radio frequency radiation necessary to cause changes in animals and humans. ...This book compiled research spanning five decades and contains a bibliography which is 29 pages long. ...(page l85).More importantly the research behind it is being used to develop better methods of killing. Purpose; To change the central nervous system, cardiovascular system and the respiratory system (Page l85). The l982 Air Force report covering the use of radio frequency radiation in the new weapon systems contemplated by the Air Force was intended to change the central nervous system, cardiovascular system and the respiratory system. We were distressed to read about the idea of using this technology to alter the way people think in order to make the "enemy" of the government incapable of waging war. .. Page l86: The fact that these technologies are classified and hidden from the medical community denies humanity the opportunity to explore these areas for healing people rather than for destructive purposes. The report speaks about using this technology in a way which could interact with biological or chemical agentsit states: "It may be possible to sensitize large military groups to extremely dispersed amounts of biological and chemical agentsIt should be noted that this may require relatively low level RFR. The idea expressed here is that depositing small amounts of chemicals in a person's physiological system, in amounts below normal levels where negative physical effects are known to occur, will ensure they have no perceivable effect until radio frequency radiation (RFR) is introduced. Once introduced, the RFR creates physiological reactions which are detrimental to the host. This would allow individuals who are not exposed to the chemicals to then enter the area of the RFR without harm to their own bodies. When an operator tunes the RFR in just the right way, changes are caused in the energy state of atoms, which cause chemical reactions in the body, which in turn manifest as physiological or psychological changes. The introduction of small amounts of chemicals is a very important
Re: [CTRL] How it works: Who chooses the next administration?
Ah yesbut Cheney and Christopher are but the smallest tip of the iceberg. Bill Clinton's mentor, Prof. Carroll Quigley (Georgetown Univ.) in his now famous book, "Tragedy and Hope", explained it for all the world to read: The Role of the CFR in the Establishment. Dr. Quigley describes the Council on Foreign Relations as one of several 'front' organizations set up by the inner group for the purpose of advancing its conspiratorial schemes. Dr. Quigley explains more specifically that the Council on Foreign Relations 'was a front for J.P. Morgan and Company.' Some idea of the influence of the Council of Foreign Relations may be gleaned from the fact that there were 74 CFR members in the American delegation to the United Nations Conference at San Francisco in 1945, including Alger Hiss (Communist spy), Harry Dexter White (Soviet agent), Owen Lattimore ('a conscious, articulate instrument of the Soviet international conspiracy'), John J. McCloy (formerly head of the Rockefeller Chase-Manhattan Bank), Harold Stassen, Nelson Rockefeller, John Foster Dulles, Philip Jessup and Dean Acheson. Internationally, the CFR is interlocked with the Bilderbergers, the Pugwash Conferences, the English-speaking Union, the Pilgrims Society, and the Round Table. Within the United States, CFR members are interlocked with the American Association for the United Nations, the Foreign Policy Association, the World Affairs Council, the Committee for Economic Development, Business Advisory Council, Commission on National Goals, American Assembly, National Planning Association, and Americans for Democratic Action. For much more: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a58257.htm Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] AMERICAN PIE ON WALL STREET
BEFORE YOU READ THE FOLLOWING, YOU SHOULD FIRST SING "AMERICAN PIE" BY DON McLEAN. (Sing out loud) "Bye bye miss american pie drove my chevy to the levee but the levee was dry them good ol boys were drinkin whiskey and rye singin this will be the day that I die this will be the day that I die." Did you sing it out loud? You should to get the full effect. Sing this to "American Pie." Humble Pie A long, long week ago I can still remember how the market used to make me smile What I'd do when I had the chance Is get myself a cash advance And add another tech stock to the pile But Alan Greenspan made me shiver With every speech that he delivered Bad news on the rate front Still I'd take one more punt I can't remember if I cried When I heard about the CPI I lost my fortune and my pride The day the NASDAQ died So bye-bye to my piece of the pie I'm gettin' margin calls Cause my cash account's dry It's just two weeks from a new all-time high And now we're right back where we were in July We're right back where we were in July Did you buy stocks you never heard of? QCOM at 150 or above? 'Cos George Gilder told you so Now do you believe in Home Depot? Can Wal-Mart save your portfolio? And can you teach me what's a P/E ratio? Well, I know that you were leveraged too So you can't just take a long-term view Your broker shut you down No more margin could be found I never worried on the whole way up Buying dot coms from the back of a pickup truck But Friday I ran out of luck It was the day the NSDAQ died I started singin' Bye-bye to my piece of the pie I'm gettin' margin calls Cause my cash account's dry It's just two weeks from a new all-time high And now we're right back where we were in July Yeah we're right back where we were in Ju-li. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ELIAN TURNED OVER TO THE VILLAGE PEOPLE!
Elian was grabbed at gunpoint and they didn't even take a moment to read him his rights. And so now comes Bill Clinton talking about it at the White House today. Bill said: "Elian's reunion with his father...was long overdue. I believe it is time for all of us, including the media and those of us in public life, to give this family the space it needs to heal." Notice that Clinton spoke about the boy's father and his family. But wait a minute! Didn't Hillary write a book and tell us that "IT TAKES A VILLAGE" ?? The only logical conclusion one can draw from this is that Hillary's idea of "A Village" is communist Cuba. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om