Re: [darktable-user] Exporting edited image
Hi, On Sat, 17 Jul 2021 at 04:01, 01myphotos01 <01myphoto...@gmail.com> wrote: > I worked further on an edited image and exported it. The re-edited image does > not get saved and shows as a black image only. Some modules may produce negative pixel values, and some code (especially OpenCL-accelerated computations) cannot deal with that. Though, when this happens, I usually see it in the editor, not just when exporting. You may try: - turning on the option 'clip negative RGB from gamut' in 'color calibration', if you use that module - using 'black level correction' in 'exposure' (the scene-referred workflow comes with a default of -0.0002; you may experiment with numbers between 0 and, say -0.01 -- setting too large a number will produce faded blacks) - if you use large contrast or saturation boosts, reducing them - toggling modules one-by-one to find the culprit Also, do you use any styles that are added automatically in the 'export' module? It could explain why you can edit but not export. You may have a better chance of getting help at https://discuss.pixls.us/c/software/darktable/19, where it is much easier to attach images and sidecar files. Many of the developers are there. Kofa Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Applying sidecars
On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 at 20:52, Niranjan Rao wrote: > > darktable version 3.4.1 3.6 is now out, give it a spin if you can! > I'm struggling with applying the sidecars - xmp files. Guillermo has already answered that, but there's a non-trivial feature (documented, but not realised by many): darktable, by default, saves the history stack into the exported JPG, and it can actually load the history stack from such a JPG. The procedure is the same as with the XMP, but you need to change the selector in the Open dialogue from *.xmp to 'All files', and select the JPG file. Also, if you're after a 'look', if perfectly fine to apply any history stack to any image, even if it's a different camera -- just reset the input colour profile to use the values for your camera. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] exporting to Tiff
Hello, You may want to try signing up on discuss.pixls.us, which is now the recommended way to interact with the community, including the developers. https://www.darktable.org/contact/ mentions the mailing lists as 'last resort'. Make sure all your applications are properly colour managed. darktable has a utility, darktable-cmstest, that can check your display profile. There are quite a few ways this can go wrong. You should set a display profile in your desktop environment, open a new command shell, and run darktable-cmstest. Then also check the Gimp. In Edit -> Preferences -> Color management, set 'Image display mode' to 'Color-managed display', and, just to be certain, you may want to set the 'Monitor profile' to a specific file. If everything is fine (as reported by darktable-cmstest), you shouldn't need that (note that the specified profile is only used if 'Try to use the system monitor profile' is unchecked, or if it fails to read the profile from system settings. (It might be a good idea to back up your ~/.gimp-2.8 (or whatever version you use) directory, and then reset Edit -> Preferences -> Color management settings before you try setting a new profile. There are two ways to determine the display profile; the 'X atom' and 'colord'; darktable-cmstest will check that they are set to the same value -- and that's the one Gimp should also use. Then check what profile you use for darktable export, and using which profile Gimp interprets the exported file. It's easy to sign up for discuss.pixls.us, and there you are allowed to share images (e.g. screenshots), which could make this investigation easier. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Question regarding exporting images
On Sat, 22 May 2021 at 21:28, Willy Williams wrote: > I can find no reference to being able > to export images while down-sizing them to a specific maximum file size > (in MB, not pixels). Does this capability exist at all? No, since in JPEG (I guess you're referring to JPEG, but the same also applies to PNG) you cannot set the desired output size: you set the compression parameters, but the resulting file size also depends on the content. This is contrary to music or video compression, where you often set a desired bitrate (average or fixed), and the compressor tweaks the compression parameters (e.g. quality settings) to achieve it. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: Presets setting too many parameters, sometimes (was: [darktable-user] Activating the pipeline)
On Wed, 5 May 2021 at 13:33, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * Michael Staats [05-04-21 08:51]: > > >> Hi > > >> FYI: Just opened feature request #8861 > > >> > > >> "Smart Presets": More flexible presets: only set some parameters of a > > >> module > > > > > > can you not do that already by setting the scope or just "%" which matches > > > everything? I think these are two different aspects of applying presets. The '%' marker influences >>>which images<<< a preset is applied to. E.g. if I set focal length to '%', it means it'll match all focal lengths. Whereas, if I understand correctly, Michael wants to achieve that >>>only certain settings<<< of a preset would be applied (e.g. in lens correction, set the module parameter 'corrections' to 'only distortion', but leave all other parameters as they are read from the camera or at default values; for filmic, set 'preserve chrominance' to 'no' (or whatever someone may wish to use), but still let filmic auto-apply all the other settings, some of which are calculated from exposure settings -- but not if a preset is used). Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Newbie
On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 19:43, Guillermo Rozas wrote: > it seems the X100V is not currently supported: > https://www.darktable.org/resources/camera-support/. > In the same page you will find the instructions on how to add support for it. I think the development version can process X100V files, at least we played around with one of those in January: https://discuss.pixls.us/t/colour-calibration-green-tinge/22810 > The instructions to install darktable on Windows are here: > https://www.darktable.org/install/#windows. Just download the file and > install it. Probably a dev(elopment) build would be needed. I build my own on Linux; I'm not sure if anyone publishes Windows or MacOS builds regularly. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] .jpg file verifier
You can display info like exposure data (ISO, exposure time, aperture) using any EXIF-aware tool. Is that what you need? 'verify' is a bit vague. exiftool, exiv2 (both work with any image that has EXIF headers, e.g. raw files as well) e.g. $ exiv2 2021-02-25_15-47-24_P1050894.JPG File name : 2021-02-25_15-47-24_P1050894.JPG File size : 4198912 Bytes MIME type : image/jpeg Image size : 3776 x 2520 Camera make : Panasonic Camera model: DMC-LX7 Image timestamp : 2021:02:25 15:47:24 Image number: Exposure time : 1/400 s Aperture: F4 Exposure bias : -1 EV Flash : No, compulsory Flash bias : 0 Focal length: 17.7 mm (35 mm equivalent: 90.0 mm) Subject distance: ISO speed : 80 Exposure mode : Auto Metering mode : Multi-segment Macro mode : On Image quality : Raw Exif Resolution : 3776 x 2520 White balance : Auto Thumbnail : image/jpeg, 4400 Bytes Copyright : Exif comment: darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] .jpg file verifier
One way to 'verify' the data is to decode the file. The following command will try to convert the JPG into PNM, but will not actually write the output file. If an error occurs, it'll be printed. E.g. for an intentionally corrupted file: kofa@eagle:~$ convert /tmp/test.jpg -format pnm - >/dev/null convert-im6.q16: Corrupt JPEG data: premature end of data segment `/tmp/test.jpg' @ warning/jpeg.c/JPEGWarningHandler/386. You can get 'convert' from ImageMagick or from GraphicsMagick. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Thumbnail without original files
You may want to keep 'recent' (WIP) images as 'local copies'. https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/overview/sidecar-files/local-copies/ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] Re: [darktable-dev] News about darktable 3.6
I think you forgot to mention the automated parameterisation of filmic and tone equaliser, and the AI-powered selection of the chroma-preservation mode. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Help needed with Canon CR2 pictures
Since the OP said it mainly affects the shadows, are you sure it's because of highlight clipping? darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Issue with trashing images
Please create an issue, include screenshots. https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Dark photos when printed
On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 at 18:00, Niranjan Rao wrote: > > On 3/6/21 8:12 AM, KOVÁCS István wrote:' > > BTW, are you really in 2.4.1, or was that a typo, and you're, in fact, on > > 3.4.1? > > It's a typo correct version as shown by darktable is 3.4.1 Good. :) Please keep the discussion on the list (for technical reasons, e.g. to avoid automated out-of-office replies on the list, the reply-to address is not set to the list address), so others can follow; also, please trim responses to only include the relevant sections (sometimes discussions grow quote long, and it becomes impossible to track where 1-2 new sentences are added if the message is hundreds of lines long. As to the original printing problem: you can put printer profiles in your output colour profile directory, and soft-proof against them (https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/module-reference/utility-modules/darkroom/soft-proof/). Some profiles are here: https://www.fujifilm.eu/eu/support/photofinishing/color-management. Maybe you can compare if one of them, used in soft-proof mode, matches relatively well what you see on the print. Professional labs will also provide you with their profile, I think (I don't print). A search on https://discuss.pixls.us/ may bring relevant hits as well (and it's probably a good idea to register there, as sharing files and screenshots is much easier than on this list). Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Dark photos when printed
When you develop your photos, if you use a dark darktable theme, they will appear brighter than when printed (or shown on a lighter background). Plus, now we have an option to provide a more consistent viewing experience. You can read here: https://discuss.pixls.us/t/neutral-theme-for-darktable-and-gimp/9504/40 Currently, I use darktable-elegant-grey with the following tweaks: @define-color bg_color #7F7F7F; @define-color fg_color #eee; @define-color base_color #444; @define-color text_color #eee; @define-color selected_bg_color #666; @define-color selected_fg_color #eee; @define-color tooltip_bg_color #666; @define-color tooltip_fg_color #111; @define-color really_dark_bg_color #595959; @define-color darkroom_bg_color #77; @define-color darkroom_preview_bg_color shade(@darkroom_bg_color, .8); @define-color lighttable_bg_color @darkroom_bg_color; @define-color lighttable_preview_bg_color shade(@lighttable_bg_color, .8); BTW, are you really in 2.4.1, or was that a typo, and you're, in fact, on 3.4.1? darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] Re: latest update (for Dave Stephens)
Dear Dave, Please stop spamming the list and asking the question over and over again, hijacking discussion threads. The reason you're not getting a reply is because you do not provide any details. I don't think anyone here knows what 'enclosed unchecked boxes' you're referring to. Are you on Windows? Are you facing an installation issue? If on Windows, and it's warning you about the download potentially containing malware, stop worrying, the alert if false. We're here to help, but please describe your problem clearly. If you need to share screenshots, please don't send them to the list; upload them somewhere, and share a link. And please keep the discussion on the list, don't mail any of us directly, unless prompted. Thanks, Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Internal browser
RawTherapee and ART (and I think Photoflow also) work without importing. Filmulator imports images, just like darktable. If you don't want a database with darktable, it's doable: you can set the library to be in-memory (it'll start empty every time). You can simply open images with darktable name-of-image.ext. This is described here: https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/special-topics/program-invocation/darktable/ I'm not sure if it is possible to: - send a file to an already open instance of darktable; - set the data.db file (which stores your tags, styles, presets...) separately from your library (you'd probably still want to create and reuse such styles and settings, even if the library is only stored in memory). Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] lighttable view responsiveness
On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 at 11:35, Willi Fritz wrote: > We would appreciate guidance on achieving reasonable responsiveness during > initial screening > of photos after importing them into darktable, i.e. the time it takes until > thumbnails are displayed > (1) when opening a folder for the first time in lighttable view, and (2) when > using the slider to change the size of thumbnails. Make sure 'don’t use embedded preview JPEG but half-size raw' is disabled (so no raw processing happens on initial import): https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/preferences-settings/lighttable/#thumbnails If you have lots of RAM and a modern CPU, you may want to raise 'number of background threads'; see https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/preferences-settings/cpu-gpu-memory/ BTW, darktable can use the embedded JPG for full-screen preview - if an image has not been edited yet, this allows for quick review and culling. https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/lighttable/lighttable-modes/full-preview/ Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable darkens by default?
Which version of darktable, what camera, which workflow (display-referred , using the base curve, or scene-referred, using filmic -- see https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/preferences-settings/processing/)? If using the scene-referred workflow, Fuji cameras are known to require more exposure correction than the +0.5EV applied by default; you can create your own exposure preset and have it applied automatically -- see https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/preferences-settings/presets/ Also, if your camera applies some kind of dynamic range compression (basically: underexposing to save highlights, and boosting shadows and midtones in-camera for the JPG preview), you'll have to correct for that; with the modern workflow, you'd apply additional exposure correction and use filmic to bring back the highlights as usual. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] How to permanently remove highlight reconstruction from the default stack? (3.5)
On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 at 12:24, Joerg Lippmann wrote: > > Am Fr., 19. Feb. 2021 um 12:00 Uhr schrieb KOVÁCS István > : >> >> I think that it is possible that the module produces wrong results for >> you because your camera's white point is set wrong in darktable's >> source code. >> What camera do you use? > > Canon EOS 80D, usually darktable yields great results. It's just the > highlight reconstruction is quite unpredictable. > In some cases it's great and absolutely necessary and in others it's terrible. Please don't respond to me directly; instead, keep the discussion on the list. RawTherapee's camconst.json lists a bunch of different raw white points, depending on the ISO. You may want to try them in darktable's raw black/white point module, keeping highlight reconstruction on: https://github.com/Beep6581/RawTherapee/blob/dev/rtengine/camconst.json#L758_L767 darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?
On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 at 15:29, Terry Pinfold wrote: > I am really impressed with Rawttherapee but the lack of localised adjustments > is a huge negative for me. Then check out https://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Local_Adjustments And also the ART fork, which supports drawn and parametric masks: https://bitbucket.org/agriggio/art/wiki/Home Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] How to permanently remove highlight reconstruction from the default stack? (3.5)
I think that it is possible that the module produces wrong results for you because your camera's white point is set wrong in darktable's source code. What camera do you use? Do you make use of 'extended ISO' modes or camera dynamic range management features? I have seen cases where such 'extended ISO' modes caused issues with Panasonic cameras. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Tone Equalizer, Mask
Tone EQ allows you to apply different exposure compensations to different parts of the image. You can achieve a similar effect by creating several instances of exposure, e.g. one without a mask, so set overall brightness; one with +1EV to lift the shadows, with a parametric mask; and one with -1 EV to tame highlights, again with a parametric mask. Tone EQ basically does the same: it blurs the image to create a 'mask', and then allows you to specify what exposure compensation to apply to which masked range. So it's like automatically creating a mask for -8 EV (dark shadows), -7 EV etc., up to 0 EV (white), and assigning each of them to another instance of the exposure module. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] How to permanently remove highlight reconstruction from the default stack? (3.5)
Turn it off, save as a preset, set the preset to auto-apply. But maybe first try the 'recover in LCh' mode first, it works reasonably well. You can also save that as a preset if you like the results. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] style with multiple instances of module
My issue (https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/7655)
occurred with images processed with an older version of darktable ('it
was an issue related to new pipe order introduced in 3.0 and
completely fixed in 3.2.1 by @TurboGit. Anyway, already affected XMP
with multiple instances (so all possibly before 3.2.1) can't be
fixed'). I was wondering if the styles used by Joachim and Terry were
created with old and new versions, respectively (so not only
copy-pasting an old stack, but applying an old style would cause the
same problem).
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Re: [darktable-user] style with multiple instances of module
Might be related to https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/7655, though that's about copying and pasting. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 20:37, Urs Schütz wrote:
> @kneops
> My two cents:
> Darktable pipelines work from bottom to top. [...]
> The developers choosed "from bottom to top"
I think it may be reasonable to add an option to flip the visual order
(so not completely free reordering, just a boolean top-to-bottom
('page-order') or bottom-up ('stack-like') display choice). My
reasoning is that in Western writing systems, we read and write from
top to bottom. I understand that the pipeline is also called a
'stack', and the 'last' element on the stack means 'the most recently
pushed one', and it's at the top. But, I guess, for many users, a
presentation where the last element of the history is at the bottom;
where one of the the first modules to apply (such as exposure) appears
near the top of the page, not near the bottom; where the pipeline, in
execution order, is displayed top-to-bottom, is a very logical
expectation.
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Re: [darktable-user] How to set opacity to 100% in retouch module
Shut down darktable. Open your config file (~/.config/darktable/darktablerc). Look for 'opacity' and 'density'. plugins/darkroom/masks/opacity=1.00 plugins/darkroom/masks/brush/density=1.00 plugins/darkroom/spots/brush_density=1.00 I think the last of those is what you're looking for; set it to 1. Hope this helps, Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Rawtherapee seems to be sharper than Darktable, doesn't it?
The darktable image is darker. Perceived sharpness also depends on
contrast. RawTherapee can apply a bunch of tricks (capture sharpening,
dual demosaicing) that darktable cannot do (dual demosaicing is on the
master branch, though). I see some CA in the darktable JPG that I
don't see on the one from RT, and the applied lens correction isn't
the same, either. Noise levels and sharpening are also different.
You may have more luck posting it on pixls.us as a PlayRaw.
https://discuss.pixls.us/c/processing/playraw/30
Please make sure to include a permissive licence that allows others to
download and modify your image and then upload ('publish') their
version ('derivative work').
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Re: [darktable-user] Watermark and Framing removal
On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 at 06:46, Andrew Greig wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have 450 images which I Watermarked and Framed in Darktable [...] > Now I want to generate some full size jpg images without Watermark or Framing. Try this: - open any image (a throw-away image will do) - turn on watermark on - turn on framing - turn off watermark - turn off framing - create a new style (https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/module-reference/utility-modules/darkroom/history-stack/ -> 'The button to the right of the “compress history stack” button allows you to create a new style...'); in that style, include the watermark (off) and framing (off) entries of your history stack (You could also start with an image that already has them enabled, of course.) On export, select your newly made style in export settings, and append it to your history (https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/module-reference/utility-modules/lighttable/export-selected/ -> global options -> style). (This only applies to the exported image, it won't affect your edits.) In the future, you may want to omit adding the watermark + framing while you edit; instead, create a similar style but with the modules turned on, and apply them automatically to exported images. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Which documentation to use?
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 06:31, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * darkta...@911networks.com [01-18-21 23:09]: > > There is: > > > > http://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/ > > > > and > > > > https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/index.html > > > > are they the same? Which one should I use? > > if you looked at them, surely you noticed a difference. use the one that > is for the version of darktable you utilize. > > should be very easy to make that choice. Since they both say 3.4, and in fact *are* for 3.4, the question was valid and the answer was just as wrong as arrogant. https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/index.html is 'old' in the sense that it's the updated version of the 'old style' manual. Nevertheless, it has been updated for 3.4, but is the last such update. It is available in multiple languages. https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/ is the new version, and that is the format that will be used in the future. It has fewer screenshots (which tend to change often, and are therefore hard to maintain). Finally, https://darktable-org.github.io/dtdocs/ is, as far as I know, the latest and greatest, updated for the development version (even though its version number still says 3.4). It's automatically generated from https://github.com/darktable-org/dtdocs The latter two are currently available only in English. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Best way to tag image from command line?
> I was looking for portrait images. I could not find a way to do it in > UI. Darktable is aware of image orientation, but it's not accessible in > UI as far as I know. You're right, there's no way to filter based on the camera's rotation sensor. But we do have something better, that takes cropping into account, too. In collect images, open the dropdown, and select aspect ratio: http://tech.kovacs-telekes.org/files/2021-01-19-darktable-aspect-ratio/1-collect-images-capture-details-aspect-ratio.png Choose one that you like, or use > 1 to filter for landscape: http://tech.kovacs-telekes.org/files/2021-01-19-darktable-aspect-ratio/2-aspect-ratio-greater-than-1-landscape.png I explained the same on the 16th, Bernard on the 17th, then both of us again on the 18th, including screenshots. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Best way to tag image from command line?
All this SQL magic makes sense only if the database actually stores those fields. Are you sure they're there? Wouldn't it be better to ask for new fields to be added, and then handled through the UI filter builder? What feature are you missing from the query builder itself? Because if none, then there's no need for direct SQL filtering. The few power users who want to have advanced statistics or such from their database can use the command-line SQLite client and run whatever query they want. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: Fwd: Fwd: [darktable-user] Where are Collections stored?
You can simply put the 'alias' commands Patrick provided in your .bashrc. https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-create-bash-aliases/ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Best way to tag image from command line?
I have the impression some of the data that is not searchable is perhaps not even in the database. Terry, I think you could raise specific feature requests for what you miss. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Best way to tag image from command line?
I don't think direct SQL search would be a good idea, it could even be dangerous (a malicious user may send a seemingly helpful SQL snippet that wipes the user's database). https://xkcd.com/327/ Also, I don't think it's needed/worthwhile: - The query builder (collect images module) in darktable is rather flexible. - The feature would take time. I think if someone really, absolutely needs SQL, the command-line sqlite path is available. - People not knowing enough SQL would need to be supported. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Best way to tag image from command line?
https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/module-reference/utility-modules/shared/collect-images/#available-filtering-attributes https://tech.kovacs-telekes.org/files/2021-01-18-darktable-filtering/Screenshot_20210118_075244-1.png Are you aware of the hierarchy under tag / darktable? https://tech.kovacs-telekes.org/files/2021-01-18-darktable-filtering/Screenshot_20210118_075402-1.png darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Best way to tag image from command line?
On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 at 21:29, Terry Pinfold wrote: >> I am using windows 10 with V3.4 and do not see any of the mentioned >> presets in lighttable. As long as the aspect ratios are there, you can create the presets. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Best way to tag image from command line?
You may not need to tag them. Try this: On the lighttable, using the 'collect images' module => 'hamburger' (presets) menu -> portrait, landscape, or square. Those are just predefined filters using metadata -> capture details -> aspect ratio (less than, greater than or equal to 1). I'm on the master branch, but I think this is available with 3.4 as well. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Problems importing jpg-images
On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 at 00:36, Thomas Schweikle wrote: > Importing jpeg-images gives color-failures within these images. Red-, yellow- > or blueish. Any config to change to import jpegs without color-failures? Please provide the info Patrick has requested. Also, if you're on 3.4, do you use the legacy or the modern white balance method? (preferences -> processing -> auto-apply chromatic adaptation defaults, see https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/preferences-settings/processing/) If you do, resetting the 'color calibration' module (or choosing 'as shot' as described here: https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/module-reference/processing-modules/color-calibration/#cat-tab-workflow) may fix the problem; every now and then I see wrong colours after importing images or copying and pasting the module's config, and the module reset fixes that. I don't know how much sense 'color calibration' makes for JPG, though. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Camera / lens not found
On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 at 19:49, Jean-Luc CECCOLI wrote: > Self-replying : /usr/share/lensfun/version_1 was not up to date (53 files / > 1.9 MB against 55 files / 3+ MB on my w10 machine). > Copying the folder from my w10 machine solved the problem. > As this happens on both my 2 Ubuntu machines, I will file a bug. Don't. Those files are not shipped by darktable; your Linux distro (Ubuntu) ships them. Instead, run the lensfun-update-data command in a terminal. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/lensfun-update-data.1.html Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] DT 3.4 no longer has zone system module (gone!)
On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 at 00:46, Terry Pinfold wrote: > > BTW, is there any way to change the default option for this module to my new > preset? You can save a new preset (or edit an existing one), and check the 'auto apply to matching images'. https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/module_presets.html#module_presets_new Another way, if you don't want it to slow down processing while you edit (though it comes pretty early in the pipe, and its output can be cached, plus the wavelet-based algorithm has a very efficient OpenCL implementation if memory serves me well), is to create a style, and add it to your export settings (see under the heading 'Style' at https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/export_selected.html). Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] perspective correction
If this used to work better, please raise an issue (but first check if one already exists). https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] DT 3.4 no longer has zone system module (gone!)
I'm glad you find it useful. I read somewhere or saw a video that said you could play with the noise reduction applied at the different detail levels, but you really had to raise the strength for the settings to be effective (it may have been this video from rawfiner, one of the developers, but I do not have time to re-watch it now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZhbeXpx2W8). Someone (I think on discuss.pixls.us) has suggested an inverted U shape to leave fine details alone, so you may try that. I'm partial to my version, but we have different tastes, and possibly the type of camera also matters. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] DT 3.4 no longer has zone system module (gone!)
On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 at 21:04, Terry Pinfold wrote: > > I went to the link and I saw a bunch of text. How do I copy and save that as > a preset to install? Right-click, Save as..., or simply copy the text that you see in the browser into a file called any-name.dtpreset, or in Firefox press Ctlr+S when the text is shown. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] DT 3.4 no longer has zone system module (gone!)
Sorry, the URL was broken. Here it is: https://tech.kovacs-telekes.org/files/denoiseprofile_wavelet%20chroma.dtpreset darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] DT 3.4 no longer has zone system module (gone!)
I usually only filter chroma noise. I find that denoise (profiled) can suppress it very effectively, leaving fine-grained luma noise behind. I've exported my preset, you can grab it here if you like: https://tech.kovacs-telekes.org/files/denoiseprofile_wavelet chroma.dtpreset You can import it with Preferences -> Presets -> import, see https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/preferences-settings/presets/ Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] DT 3.4 no longer has zone system module (gone!)
On Tue, 5 Jan 2021, 23:45 Terry Pinfold, wrote: > *"The developers should keep the zone system in my opinion."* > > I was also surprised to see some noise reduction modules have disappeared > https://www.darktable.org/2020/12/darktable-3-4/ Renamed Modules The following modules have been renamed to better describe their use. These modules can still be found using their old names in the module search box. denoise (non-local means) is now astrophoto denoise denoise (bilateral filter) is now surface blur > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Strange import behaviour - resolved
So, it is my understanding that you physically remove images without removing them from darktable's database. In that case, you're inviting trouble. When you're done (exported everything etc.), you should select the images and click 'Remove' (not 'Delete'!!!). Removing them before moving the files will keep your database clean. BTW, the 'collect' module is just a strangely named 'filter'. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] DT 3.4 no longer has zone system module (gone!)
You could join discuss.pixls.us if you haven't done so, and post a photo at https://discuss.pixls.us/c/processing/playraw/30, where others can (and will) develop it in different ways. Many of the developers are also active on pixls.us. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Strange import behaviour
On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 at 09:57, Andrew Greig wrote: > I have recently upgraded to DT3.4.0, when importing a folder of RAW > files from my RAW files directory I now find unwanted images from other > folders intruding on the Lighttable view I'm not sure I understand. In the lighttable, on the left, you have a 'collect images' module, where you can apply several filters, including 'film roll' or 'folder' (plus date, format, aspect ratio, tag...) https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/collect_images.html Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] DT 3.4 no longer has zone system module (gone!)
On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 at 19:40, Juan Navarro wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 10:00 PM KOVÁCS István wrote: >> >> [...] To replicate the same behaviour, you don't >> need the mask: select the 'simple tone curve' preset from the tone >> equalizer (this disables masking), > > > More precisely, choose 'no' in preserve details (in the masking tab), True, but I think using the preset is faster (it's in the 'hamburger' menu, you don't need to switch to a tab and fiddle with a specific control). > which doesn't disable the mask but disables *smoothing* of the mask Yes, that's more precise: it creates the mask using the luminosity of the individual pixels. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] DT 3.4 no longer has zone system module (gone!)
On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 at 00:18, Tanya Riseman wrote: > You are supposed to use the tone equalizer module instead of the zone system > module now. According to the manual, zone system is deprecated. > > The zone system is pretty easy for beginners to pick up. > The tone equalizer is much harder to get up to speed with. It lacks a 2D zone > image. > It only has crosshairs that correspond to a hard to understand contrast mask, > not the zone. The zone system was just one of the ways to define a tone curve. The resulting curve was applied at the pixel level (all pixels with a given value were affected the same way, without taking their surroundings into account). To replicate the same behaviour, you don't need the mask: select the 'simple tone curve' preset from the tone equalizer (this disables masking), switch to the 'advanced' tab, hover over the image, and start scrolling up and down to adjust brightness. That's pretty simple to use, I think. You could also use one of the other curves, too. It's important to understand what the tone EQ mask achieves. By using the mask, you establish the *average brightness level of each part* of the image, and then raise or lower the brightness of *each part* (it's still not completely local: all areas of the same average brightness will be treated the same way -- you can apply further masks, just like for any other module, to change that). This difference is very important: it allows you to keep local contrast. That is, if in a relatively dark region you have a few brighter details (say, in the midtones), raising the brightness of the dark *pixels* (whether using the zone system, the tone curve, RGB curve, base curve, or tone EQ without masking) the midtone pixels will be less affected (or not at all): the brightness difference decreases, contrast is lost in details. With the mask, all pixels in that region are affected the same way: the midtone pixels in a dark area will be brightened along with their surroundings, and contrast is kept. If you use the tone EQ to compress the dynamic range (global contrast), the same midtone pixels, in the middle of a bright area, could be darkened, maintaining local contrast intact; with traditional curves (and the zone system module) the midtone pixels would be either brightened or darkened everywhere the same way. The 'zone map' of the zone system module is actually misleading, as it implies the module really divides the image into areas based on brightness, and then acts on the areas, but it does not actually do that. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Finding out images based on orientation
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 at 22:15, Niranjan Rao wrote: > Wondering if there is a way to see images in landscape or portrait mode. > I looked at "Collect images" module and metadata but did not see > anything obvious. Collect images -> capture details -> aspect ratio I don't know any more direct way. You could save the few portrait aspect ratios that you use (those less than 1) as a preset to the collect images module (combine them with 'add more images'), start with that, and filter for film roll or folder with the 'narrow down search' operator. Note that the ratios are not necessarily exact, and not even stable: a portrait-mode 16:9 image from my LX7 showed up as 0.5 before I opened it, and changed to 0.6 after opening it (probably because the first ratio, 0.5, came from rounding/truncating the side ratio of the JPG preview, as opposed to the raw pixel numbers that resulted in 0.6). Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera
On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 at 20:27, Willy Williams wrote: > > When you open lighttable, you'll see an "import" function top left directly > under the darktable logo. > Click on "import and you'll see two possibilities; "image..." and > "folder...". Assuming that > you're looking for a folder on your camera, click on "folder...". When the > folder window > pops up, look for your camera and find the folder on your camera that > contains your images. Wouldn't that register the images in darktable's DB with the paths on the camera, without copying them over? https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/darktable_basic_workflow.html#darktable_basic_workflow_importing_from_camera 'If your distribution tries to automount it, select the option to abort the mount operation' And also here: https://darktable-org.github.io/dtdocs/module-reference/utility-modules/lighttable/import/#import-from-a-connected-camera Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] DT 3.4 tone curve
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 12:19, Ulrich vor dem Esche wrote: > Hey everyone, super glad that darktable exists! Just installed 3.4 on > Windows 10, funnily the tone curve is not visible, i see an empty grey > space. Just a guess: it could be a conflict between your operating system's colour theme and that of darktable. Try setting another theme in preferences. You may want to (have to) override individual properties. You can find the CSS for the themes here: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/blob/master/data/themes/ And you can add your own snippets as well: https://darktable-org.github.io/dtdocs/preferences-settings/general/#css-theme-modifications https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/preferences_chapter.html#general (bottom of page) Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] 3.4 is out -- PLEASE read the announcement / what's new / manual before asking
Hello, On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 at 12:11, Peter Fischer wrote: > our request to your site was to have an entity with a pulse contact us. I'm not one of darktable's developers; I'm just a user 'entity with a pulse' trying to help other user 'entities'. So darktable.or g is not 'my site', or 'our site'. > apparently you have not read our email No, I did not read all emails this morning; I just saw that there are a number of questions that would have been answered by the quoted material. > the issues we are experiencing are program bugs. not operator errors Then please report them here: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/ Also, please keep the discussion on the list, do not email individual 'entities' unless requested. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] 3.4 is out -- PLEASE read the announcement / what's new / manual before asking
Dear All, We're all happy that 3.4 is out. People are giving it a spin -- and are baffled when something is different than in previous versions. Rather than asking on this list immediately, please read the announcements and new materials. Neither the disappearance of 'favourites', nor the behaviour of colour calibration is a secret. Links to the new manuals (yes, now we have two!) are included in the articles linked below: https://www.darktable.org/2020/12/darktable-340-released/ https://www.darktable.org/2020/12/darktable-3-4/ https://discuss.pixls.us/t/introducing-color-calibration-module-formerly-known-as-channel-mixer-rgb/21227/1 Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] What happened here?
Hi, On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 at 18:55, Niranjan Rao wrote: > Exported image is dark. It looks like darktable preview is not matching > with exported image. What happened here? Check the export settings (lighttable, between the 'export selected' heading and the 'export' button) - does it apply any style that could alter your image? Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Leaving a module to conplete an operation?
I really don't understand this confusion. (Apart from the fact that some people did not seem to realise that 'perspective correction' is a separate module, different from the keystone adjustment in the crop module.) In all the modules, the effects of the current setting are visible immediately; is that not the case? Leaving the module only means that you hide adjustment options for the modules' parameters and turn off any mask display if currently shown (and, in case of crop and perspective correction, you also hide the area that's outside the selected crop rectangle, because it'd be a waste of screen estate to show them). For crop and perspective adjustment, the crop rectangle is visible while you adjust the module's parameters, highlighting the part that will be kept when you leave. When you close the module, the area outside said rectangle is hidden, but no data is actually discarded; you can always to back and adjust the parameters (crop, rotation etc.) as you wish. With crop, there's the keystone tool, which is a bit special in that it requires you to click OK to 'commit' the adjustments. If the image was continuously updated (applying the parameters set by dragging the control points immediately), the control points *themselves* would be moving all the time, which would make editing a nightmare. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Partially black thumbnails in lighttable view
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 13:30, Ludger Bolmerg wrote: > unfortunately the workaround is not applicable for me as I am not using > "basic adjustments". > But thanks a lot anyway. I will continue to look for common edits when the > problem occurs. The good news is that 3.4 is to be published at Christmas, maybe you won't have the problem with that version. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] dt 3.2.1 freezes on every import, probably user error; how to correct?
On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 17:35, tony Hamilton wrote: > > Not sure that I fully understand 'run from the command-line' I merely meant starting a shell, and using the 'darktable' command there to launch the application, hoping that you'd get some error message printed there when darktable freezes. I also get freezes every now and then (usually after export, though), but I'm running the development version of the code, so that can be unstable; plus, my PC is ancient. > A comprehensive search on the internet returns NO 'hits' which discuss > OpenCL on Linux Mint 20 > I am using Linux Mint 20 driving an > nVidia GTX 645 OEM card, using driver nvidia-driver-455 version > 455.38-0ubuntu0-20.04.1. [...] > I now have and have discovered that OpenCL is not available in my system. That card is probably too old. The good news is, if OpenCL is disabled, it cannot cause issues (the bad news is, you miss out on performance; with a second-hand NVidia 1060, my 12-year-old machine is still usable with darktable). You say the hang-after-import is a new development. Are you aware of anything that changed? (Software upgrades, hardware changes, are you new importing a lot more photos in at once than previously? Have you cleaned your PC's inside recently? Dust can cause overheating.) Once darktable hangs, if you open another terminal and launch 'top' or 'htop' (you may have to install them first), do you see high CPU usage by darktable or is it idle? Do you see any signs indicating running out of memory? (There probably is a similar tool with a more user-friendly interface to monitor resources, but I'm not familiar with it.) Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] dt 3.2.1 freezes on every import, probably user error; how to correct?
On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 10:27, tony Hamilton wrote: > For the past few weeks I have noticed that dt .3.2.1 freezes towards the > end of the import process When run from the command-line, do you see any errors? Do you use OpenCL? If yes, which card and driver? What operating system? Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Where should my monitor ICC profile be stored in Linux?
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 18:55, tony Hamilton wrote: > > Much of what you explain is well beyond my pay grade, especially as I > still do not understand how to tell dt where my icc profile is You don't. You tell Linux where your profile is, as Guillermo said. Then, applications simply ask the system. You may need to install gnome-color-manager manually: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=1516450=e0311c5f57495e4e0c1b778d7f04b0a7#p1516450 I'm not on Mint anymore (I've replaced it with Ubuntu + KDE), so cannot help you more. Maybe read the Gnome colour management docs? Both Cinnamon and Mate are Gnome-based. https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/color.html.en Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Where should my monitor ICC profile be stored in Linux?
On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 at 17:26, tony Hamilton wrote: > Running Linux Mint 20 and dt 3.2.1. Hovering the mouse over the 'input > color profile' module, 'input profile' parameter (currently set to > 'embedded ICC profile') produces help/guidance information: "ICC > profiles in /home/user/.config/darktable/color/in or > usr/share/darktable/color/in". Those are INPUT profiles (e.g. for cameras and scanners). Anything under /home/ is only available for the given user. /usr/share is shared files, shipped by your Linux distribution, managed via packages /home/user/.local/share/ICC - user-level, but not darktable specific. /usr/local/share is also shared, the root user can place unmanaged files (not coming from packages of the distro) there. If you calibrate your screen using dispcalgui, it's going to use path described here: https://displaycal.net/#userdata --> so to /home//.local/share/DisplayCAL/storage You can (logged on as root) copy them to /usr/local/share/dispcalGUI/storage/ (or maybe dispcalgui or some Linux colour management configuration tool can do that?). Personally, I've copied them to a shared but user-writeable directory, and load them using dispwin when launching darktable, since there was a time when I had issues loading them via the nice GUI config tools (probably caused by my lack of understanding), like this: dispwin -I "/use/an/arbitrary/path/that/you/like/dispcalGUI/storage/HP ZR22w 2015-10-11 D6500 2.2 M-S 3xCurve+MTX/HP ZR22w 2015-10-11 D6500 2.2 M-S 3xCurve+MTX.icc" I've put this into a shell script, which is invoked by my other shell script that loads my self-compiled darktable (dev version). Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable + OpenCL
On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 at 07:48, Remco Viëtor wrote: > > KOVÁCS István wrote: > > > It has been reported that a new driver, compatible with kernel 5.9, is > > > available. > > > https://discuss.pixls.us/t/linux-and-darktable/21113/6 > > > > This is wrong [...] your only option is to revert to kernel 5.8. > > But, according to the linked thread on pixlus, the newest NVidia driver is > version *455.38* ... I'm on 5.8, so cannot test. According to the pixls.us link, it worked for someone; others say the driver is not yet ready for kernel 5.9: https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/455-38-and-kernel-5-9-6/159039 Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable + OpenCL
On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 at 12:34, Michael Rasmussen wrote: > Until Nvidia releases a solution your only option is to use the 5.8 > kernel It has been reported that a new driver, compatible with kernel 5.9, is available. https://discuss.pixls.us/t/linux-and-darktable/21113/6 Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Establishing a New Module Layout
On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 at 17:16, David Vincent-Jones wrote: > > Patrick maybe you can explain how to 'add' modules to a new group Here's a screenshot that might help: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-PKTkkn/i-nx7JLXX/A Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Establishing a New Module Layout
On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 at 02:05, David Vincent-Jones wrote: > I am still finding problems in establishing a 'custom' module layout now that > the Favorites column is removed. You *can* re-add the favourites column; in fact, I replied to your original thread less than 2 weeks ago and provided a step-by-step guide with screenshots. https://www.mail-archive.com/darktable-user@lists.darktable.org/msg10130.html > The following describes my approach and some apparent problems that have > resulted. > > a. I started with a 'scene referred' module set and then deleted all modules > that I would not generally use. That module grouping was then saved. > b. Then I opened an image and turned on the most common modules and saved > each 'on' module as a named preset. A preset only applies to a single module. Did you save such a preset for each? Did you set them to be applied automatically? Otherwise, I see no use for such presets, as one could enable a module faster than apply a preset. > c. Then I was able to see my module selection correctly shown in the 'active > module' column. > d. Next I saved all of the active modules (with check marks) in a new style. > > My hope was that this style would place only my common modules (in the > correct order) in the active column for other images. To my surprise modules > from other groups not only appeared but were turned on. For instance > filmic-rgb and base-curve were both showing as being active!! Base curve and filmic can come from two places: - you turned them on (either in a style, a preset (applied automatically or manually) or explicitly) - you selected an option under Preferences & Settings / processing / auto-apply pixel workflow defaults other than 'none' (https://elstoc.github.io/dtdocs/preferences-settings/processing/) If you want to use the scene-referred workflow, select that (or vice versa). Also, note that this only applies to new images; that is, if you've opened an image and it auto-applied the base curve, it's now part of the history, and 'auto-apply pixel workflow defaults' won't have an effect; applying a preset that enables filmic will result in both being enabled, ***unless*** you also save e.g. 'base curve: off' into the style. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] New Module Ordering
On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 at 10:54, Rafa García wrote: > I think you nailed it: You're using a development build and changes are > expected. Sure, I didn't mean to whine. I guess I phrased it wrong, sorry. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] New Module Ordering
On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 22:46, David Vincent-Jones wrote: > The latest way of ordering the modules eliminates the 'favorites' column. > With the new ordering system I can delete items in a column but cannot add > items. See: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-PKTkkn/ It would have been nice to migrate existing favourites and add enabled modules to the respective categories automatically; now a few thousand people will have to re-add their modules. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Crop isn't being saved and other crop bugs
On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 at 10:31, Hieke van Hoogdalem wrote: > > I watched videos and read the manual. I will make a screencast asap to show > what I mean. Please keep the discussion on the list. By default, replies are sent to the person sending the message, so you have to be careful. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Crop isn't being saved and other crop bugs
Hi Hieke, When you created an issue on GitHub, I asked you to supply a screenshot. As far as I know, you never did that. You can post here, you can post on Github, and on discuss.pixls.us as well, but please help us help you. The first step is always to read the manual. It's not always up to date, and not always detailed enough, but it's getting better (and it's completely fine to file an issue against the documentation, explaining what's missing or wrong). The next step is to check youtube for tutorials, and see: - how the tool is supposed to be used; - is what you see on your screen different from what is shown. For example, Bruce Williams produces a highly regarded series. Here is his take on the crop module: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ-ZNrWuxbc (and, since you're new with darktable, his new-user intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06V0XwmM0l4). He has a playlist here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlYWvzmJQTrRq7JrYdD7k3-8-v-uHnhK_ Other people to check out include Boris Hajdukovic (darktable videos -- less of a tutorial style, more hands-on usage examples: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmZmCIhOC2Frt6Wq3gc0-egOy_P1sXjau) Many also like Rico Richardson's videos (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy01z3xJ2KuqLf8z4B-bldkf5hKcqnRJh). Note that some videos are for older versions of darktable, so watch out. For more technical stuff (colour science etc.) check out Aurélien Pierre (he's one of the core developers): https://www.youtube.com/c/Aur%C3%A9lienPIERREPhoto/playlists. He also has a video for people coming from other tools: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yod6iH4qJEw So welcome to the darktable community, and have a nice time here! Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Exported *.CRW is too dark
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 09:25, wrote: > can anyone tell me why the correctly adjusted preview of an image (old Canon > Powershot G1 - *.crw) > is always extremely dark after the export (jpg) has been performed - i.e. > underexposed and unusable? > Is the camera and format not supported? If the format were not supported, you wouldn't be able to import it into darktable. - Do you use a colour managed viewer? - Is the same display profile set it the viewer and darktable? - Do you use an output colour space other than sRGB? (sRGB is what most programs would expect for a JPG file, and not all programs are capable of reading an embedded colour profile from the JPG) Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] Filmic FAQ
Hi, Aurélien Pierre has posted a guide / FAQ on pixls. I hope you'll find it useful: https://discuss.pixls.us/t/darktables-filmic-faq/20138 Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] could someone direct me....
On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 05:34, Michael wrote: > > could someone direct me in installing lensfun onto linux? Since you said you use Mint, go to Mint's package manager (could depend on the desktop environment) and search there. https://packages.linuxmint.com/ does not find anything lensfun-related, I'd guess they don't list packages inherited from Ubuntu (on which Mint is based). Ubuntu package search: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=lensfun=names=focal=all On your machine, at the command prompt, you could try: apt search lensfun On my machine, that lists: $ apt search lensfun Sorting... Done Full Text Search... Done gimp-lensfun/focal 0.2.4-1.1 amd64 Gimp plugin to correct lens distortion using the lensfun library libavfilter-extra7/focal-updates,focal-security 7:4.2.4-1ubuntu0.1 amd64 FFmpeg library with extra media filters - runtime files liblensfun-bin/focal 0.3.2-5build1 amd64 Lens Correction library - Utilities liblensfun-data-v1/focal,focal,now 0.3.2-5build1 all [installed,automatic] Lens Correction library - Data liblensfun-dev/focal,now 0.3.2-5build1 amd64 [installed] Lens Correction library - Development files liblensfun-doc/focal,focal 0.3.2-5build1 all Lens Correction library - Documentation liblensfun1/focal,now 0.3.2-5build1 amd64 [installed,automatic] Lens Correction library - Runtime files python3-lensfun/focal 0.3.2-5build1 amd64 Lens Correction library - Python3 module As you can see, I already have some lensfun packages installed (and if you have a .deb package of darktable installed, you'll also have lensfun, since the package manager software installs the required packages (dependencies) automatically). To install packages manually (here, for this example, let's pretend I wanted to install liblensfun-doc): sudo apt install liblensfun-doc If you already have the packages installed, you can update the lensfun database, see http://lensfun.sourceforge.net/manual/v0.3.2/lensfun-update-data.html And if you really want a new version of the library (but this may break package dependencies): https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lensfun (choose the Ubuntu version on which your Mint is based) Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] I think I found a bug:
Please note that this is a list for users to help each-other and discuss darktable. To report an issue, please go to https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/ You'll have to be way more precise than in your email to the list (operating system and version; darktable version; was OpenCL on or off; if it was on, can you reproduce the bug with it off; step-by-step description; if possible, the files you used). darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Channel mixer
On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 21:05, Mikael Ståldal wrote: > > I have tried to use the channel mixer module, but I don't quite > understand it. I have only been able to effectively use the presets. > [...] > Any suggestions for documentation or tutorials? You could try this: https://discuss.pixls.us/t/mastering-color-with-lab-tone-curves-revisited/19854/12 There's also a PDF, but it'll probably make more sense if you read the thread as well. The PDF is linked to the following answer: https://discuss.pixls.us/t/mastering-color-with-lab-tone-curves-revisited/19854/26 Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review
On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 at 16:46, Kneops wrote: > > what is your > opininion on highlight and shadow recovery in DT versus LR? My > experience is that LR gives better and more natural results so far. I > used masks a lot in DT, but at a certain point highlight recovery just > makes the area look more grey, not a recovery at all. Have you tried posting some problematic images as PlayRaw on discuss.pixls.us? (Note the licence requirements.) https://discuss.pixls.us/c/processing/playraw/30 Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review
Hi, [sorry, meant to send this to the list, but at first replied to Kneops by accident] On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 at 12:11, Kneops wrote: > But when I went to for instance horse jumping competition, a city trip > or whatever, with lots of different lighting conditions, and I have 100 > or 200 images to process for a client, I want to do it easy and fast and > good. Have you seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP5m1YmSRw8 Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 3.2, a short review
On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 09:40, Kneops wrote: > For example the filmic module is so full of options > and sliders and words that are not obvious/comprehensible for most > people You don't *have to* use them all... I set exposure in the exposure module, set the white and black point, and that's it for filmic. For filmic v3, there was even a style for Aurélien where you didn't even have to touch filmic at all. https://discuss.pixls.us/t/basic-semi-automated-style-for-darktable-3-0-filmic/17072?u=aurelienpierre Or see https://discuss.pixls.us/t/darktable-3-0-for-dummies-in-3-modules/15849 Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] v.3.2.1 is wonderful, maybe somewhat slow when zooming out ?
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 16:58, Marc Cabuy wrote: > Since I use a scene-referred workflow, that’s it. If reconstruction is not on (threshold is set high, as is the default setting), filmic is pretty fast, it's just a kind of tone curve (for a 16 MPixel image, about 140 ms on my ancient box). I've never seen such slowness on my old (Core 2 Duo from 2008, with 4 GB RAM) machine. Can you share a problematic raw and the corresponding XMP? (Don't mail them to the list, upload somewhere and share the link instead.) Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] v.3.2.1 is wonderful, maybe somewhat slow when zooming out ?
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 15:32, Marc Cabuy wrote: > that slower response on zoomed out images in the darkroom GUI does not seem > to be associated with lack of GPU > processing (as I wrongly suspected). I only see my GPU less loaded for a > longer period when zooming out, > when compared to exporting. Exporting gives higher load but during a shorter > period. I'm sorry, I have not been following the thread. Have you tried starting darktable from the command line, with the following flags: darktable -d opencl -d perf That should allow you to see where the time goes. Note that filmic v4 has no OpenCL acceleration (it's planned for 3.4, I think). (Please respond to the list *only*. No need to add individuals to the 'To' or 'CC' fields, who are also on the list anyway.) Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] new user, first question - how to change the font.
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 at 07:18, Chris Albertson wrote: > How can I change the colors to get more contrast and the size so I can read > without a magnifying glass? https://youtu.be/Q2Rsb5cfUIc?t=226 (for darktable 3.0; settings are laid out differently for the new 3.2). You can change the theme. Which version are you running? Not related to your theme/resolution issue, but since you're considering to switch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yod6iH4qJEw (darktable 3.2 quick tour for photo/video/3D artists coming from other software, by one of the main developers) Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] base curve always applied even with an empty preference tick box
On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 at 22:43, wrote: > > In darktable 3.0.2 I had the “auto-apply of the base curve” switched off > (empty tick box) in the preferences. > Now in 3.2.1 it does always apply the base curve whether ticked on or not. In 3.2.1, there are two settings that are related to the base curve: - processing -> auto-apply pixel workflow defaults: if set to 'display-referred', the base curve will be applied; if set to 'scene-referred', filmic will be applied; if set to none, neither will be applied - processing -> auto-apply per camera basecurve presets: if checked, a camera-specific basecurve (such as Nikon D7000) will be applied instead of a more generic one (e.g. Nikon) If you want to skip the base curve, set your workflow defaults to 'scene-referred' or 'none' (and restart darktable). Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] newbie help with old negatives
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 15:08, Miklós Müller wrote: > I am trying to revie my father's 40+ year old negatives. I do the same basic > steps what I do with my > new films (i.e. white balance the film base on the right side, do an invert > with picker choosing > the now white stripe on the right, and then I there I am with a dull image > seemingly lacking color and contrast, etc. Have you tried the new negadoctor module? See https://discuss.pixls.us/t/darktable-3-2-containment-effect/19652 and search for the name. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darkroom image visible under Lighttable thumnails
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 09:42, Kneops wrote: > I just installed 3.2.1 and now when I switch back from an image in > Darkroom to Lighttable, the Darkroom image is still visible under the > thumbnails. Is that how it is supposed to work? I think an issue has been opened for that: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/5922 Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Windows darktable V 3.2.1 - does not load/import lightable files or folder
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 04:30, Ross Tucker wrote: > I did find a cache related directory at: > C:\Program Files\darktable\bin\-d\cached_kernels_for_GeForceGTX970_44187 That is for the graphics card acceleration code. I think you ran darktable in the past with some wrong settings, as the path should not have a '-d' in it, and the cache directory shouldn't be under C:\Program Files, anyway (it should be in your profile). This is indicated by the error message, too. '--cachedir C:\Program Files\anything' is just wrong. Maybe darktable was working fine without any of the magic switches, and simply your 'collect images' module is set wrong on the left side of the screen? Try clicking the 'reset parameters' button (the 'on-off switch' close to the right-hand-side, next to the 'hamburger menu') of the module. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Windows darktable V 3.2.1 - does not load/import lightable files or folder
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020, 01:49 Ross Tucker, wrote: > I have added myself to darktable GitHub and am awaiting confirmation. > You don't need to join the darktable organisation: you only need a github account and raise an issue. Kofa > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Filmic RGB and colors
Hi, On Tue, 28 Jul 2020, 07:17 Jan Ingwer Baer, wrote: > I am a little bit confused about Filmic RGB and the handling of colors: > > On many/most of my pictures using filmic rgb with the default value for > 'preserve chrominance' (= 'RGB power norm') makes the colors very flat. > After switching the 'preserve chrominance' to 'no' the colors are back. > But on some pictures, it is reversed: The default value gives nice > colors, but switching to 'no' makes flat colors. Can anybody explain > this behavior to me? > Yes, colours may get desaturated (3.2 will improve on that), and the algorithm that works best may vary. You may want to try the style demonstrated by darktable developer Aurélien Pierre here: https://youtu.be/vP5m1YmSRw8 Check out his other tutorials as well, and read some filmic discussion on pixls.us. Kofa > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Camera calibration profiles
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020, 19:04 Mikael Ståldal, wrote: > I have some (binary) DCP files from Lightroom. Is it possible to use > them in Darktable somehow? > DCP files are not supported, I think. You can extract the colour matrix into an ICC, and put it in the input profiles directory (I'm not at my computer, please check the manual), and select it in the input profile module. If the DCP also contains curves, you won't be able to use those. RawTherapee and probably ART provide better DCP support. Note, though, that if the DCP files come with Lightroom, you'll need a licence to use them, if such use outside Lr is legal at all (which I doubt). Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Re: [darktable-dev] Resources for beginners / newcomers
On Sun, 26 Jul 2020 at 14:02, Willy Williams wrote: > Perhaps it would be a good thing to add this list to the darktable website? > Thank you again. There is a 'resources' section, which does mention some of the same material: https://www.darktable.org/resources/ If you wish something to be done, the best way is to take part. You could: - create a branch, add the resources and submit a pull request at https://github.com/darktable-org/dtorg (needs a bit of technical skill) - file an issue at the same page, asking the site maintainers to do it. For the manual: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/tree/master/doc Similarly, while any of the forums is OK to ask for help, or to have confirmation whether something is a bug or a missing feature, you can increase the chances of a fix/implementation by: - doing it yourself (source: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/) or - raising an issue with detailed description at https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues (but first search existing issues) Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] Re: [darktable-dev] Resources for beginners / newcomers
Dear All, (I had sent this to the developers' list by accident, but as Bruce has pointed out, it should be here, on the users' list. My apologies.) There have been a number of questions from newcomers, which is, on one hand, great (means user base of darktable is growing), but it also means that people on this list keep answering the same questions. Therefore, I'd like to suggest a number of resources: - the darktable manual: unfortunately, Google may still bring up links from the old, outdated manual. The new one is linked from the resources section of the darktable.org page, but here is the link again: https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/ (also available in other languages) - darktable blog and news: check out those sections on darktable.org, as announcements and descriptions of new features often appear there before the manual is fully updated: https://www.darktable.org/blog/ and https://www.darktable.org/news/ - Google (or your favourite search engine): please use it. Chances are, you are not the first person to ask. This saves time for you, and also effort on the other side (those answering). A neat trick for Google: if you enter the following search expression: site:darktable.io filmic the search will be restricted to that site (obviously, works for other sites as well) - Facebook: there's a group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/darktable/ - pixls.us: this is a great site about open-source apps for photography and graphics. There are articles (https://pixls.us/articles/) and also a forum with a darktable category (https://discuss.pixls.us/c/software/darktable/19) and posts tagged with darktable (https://discuss.pixls.us/tag/darktable). Many of the developers hang out there, so you can get great help (but search first, please!), take a peek at coming features, learn about the technical details. To ask how to process a picture, just post it in the 'Play raw' category (don't forget to set a licence that actually allows others to play with your image - you'll see a reminder when you post!). Some highly recommended first reading: https://discuss.pixls.us/t/darktable-3-0-for-dummies-in-3-modules/15849 and (maybe later) https://pixls.us/articles/darktable-3-rgb-or-lab-which-modules-help/ Videos: - all the stuff by Aurélien Pierre (one of the core developers), e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP5m1YmSRw8 (but check out his theoretical/technical videos as well, you'll learn a lot!). Also, on the (yet unreleased) version 3.2, especially for people coming from other tools: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yod6iH4qJEw - Bruce Williams has detailed tutorials: https://www.youtube.com/user/audio2u - Hands-on videos from Boris Hajdukovic: https://www.youtube.com/user/s7habo - rawfiner (another of the devs): great videos on noise reduction https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEz-0EYZTx03UdQszbL8xDA - Rico's videos are also popular: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC126kKAgMILMnVIi7HvQGlw Please respect others' time and do your homework before you ask. Happy learning, Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Camera calibration profiles
On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 11:24, Mikael Ståldal wrote: > In Lightroom, I could apply camera calibration profiles to make RAW > images look like JPEGs from from camera. And also chose between > different profiles from the camera (like portrait, landscape, > monochrome, vivid). Is it possible to do this in Darktable? You may find a ready-made style, but if not, you can make your own: https://pixls.us/articles/profiling-a-camera-with-darktable-chart/ 'Either we fit to a JPEG generated by the camera, which can also apply creative styles (such as film emulations, filters), or we profile against real color reproduction. For real color a color target ships with a file providing the color values for each patch it has. In summary, we can create a profile that emulates the manufactures color processing inside the body, or we can create a profile that renders real color as accurately as possible.' Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] How is initial content of history stack built?
On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 11:29, tony Hamilton wrote: > > The reason I ask is that 1 module’s appearance in a newly > imported/opened image grabs my attention: monochrome. Why is that there? > And it makes a difference, causing a ‘rash’ of mid-grey pixels to appear > in the sky in this particular image. If I ‘reset’ the history to the > step before ‘monochrome’ this rash disappears. What is going on here? Monochrome turns the whole image B/W, unless it's applied with a mask. Am I mistaken, or were you trying to get monochrome applied automatically just a week or so ago? Maybe there's a connection? https://www.mail-archive.com/darktable-user@lists.darktable.org/msg09426.html Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Can't add tags
On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 at 21:45, Kneops wrote: > > Last week I updated to Linux Mint 20 and with it came DT version 3.0.1. > Now I can't add tags. 3.0.2 is the latest release. Also, the versions compiled from master are quite stable (the developers say 3.2, to be released in August, will be much more stable than 3.0.2). You may want to try 3.0.2 from the OBS: https://www.darktable.org/install/#3rdparty Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Presets act like 'postsets' - so what am I doing wrong?
On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 at 20:29, tony Hamilton wrote: > > Are you saying that ALL images in a folder are processed > according to the preset, but I just can't see the results - until I > enter the darkroom? I'm saying you should read the manual section I sought out for you. Darktable tries to avoid useless processing. Therefore, it will not generate the updated image, unless you ask for it. Ways to ask for it: - open in darkroom - export - tell darktable, via the settings, not to use the JPG preview embedded in the raw file (which is the normal, cheap behaviour), but do the processing straight ahead, on a half-size preview rendering of the raw file. > This makes me feel quite uncomfortable because I > start to ask 'are all other preset effects not visible here on the light > table for this reason, or are they not visible because they haven't been > applied, for some reason? Once you check it and accept it, you won't worry about that. > For existing images, one has to enter the darkroom and turn on > the monochrome module for every image, individually. Select one image that has the module in its history stack, Ctrl+C, select the others you want to copy the effect to, press Ctrl+Shift+V, from the pop-up, select to paste the monochrome module only. > To my mind that seems like a manual operation , not an example of 'auto > apply'. Or am I > still failing to understand when presets - like my monochrome one - are > applied? Where is that 'timing' defined? https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/module_presets.html#module_presets_new 'you can define a filter used to decide if the preset should be automatically applied >> when opening other similar images in darkroom for the first time <' This is what I actually see. 1. I opened a Nikon NEF file 2. In exposure, I applied a large positive exposure adjustment. The image turned white. 3. Saved that as a preset, to auto-apply to all raw files. 4. Opened another unprocessed NEF. It turned white. Thus, the preset is applied to any unprocessed file, as stated by the manual. It won't be applied for images that I opened in the darkroom previously. This behaviour is the same as what the docs describe. Turning on the half-size raw and importing images also auto-applies this preset, and all my thumbnails turned white on import. Please read the manual, and experiment a bit before asking. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Presets act like 'postsets' - so what am I doing wrong?
Hi, On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 at 11:27, tony Hamilton wrote: > DT: 3.0.2 > [...] Conversion does take place when I open the darkroom Darktable will apply the preset just fine: if you open it, you'll see it's there. If you try to export it without ever opening the image in the darkroom, your preset will be applied fine. However, for sake of efficiency, darktable, by default, does not compute a thumbnail for each imported image. There's a setting to override that, if it's really important for your use-case: it's called "don't use embedded preview JPEG but half-size raw". See https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/preferences_chapter.html#gui_options_lighttable Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Unexpected *-thumb.jpg while exporting an image
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 11:04, Victor wrote: > I don't know why on my ubuntu DT 3.0.2 when I export an image to jpg (see > encl.) I get the usual filename.jpg file as well as an 'unexpected' thumb of > it, filename-thumb.jpg. Set the 'target storage' to 'file on disk', not 'website gallery'. Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Finding photos stored more then once
Hi,
Assuming you use Linux: you can install fslint or dupeguru. E.g.
https://connectwww.com/2-best-ways-to-find-and-remove-duplicate-files-on-ubuntu/5286/
For photos (images), digikam has a tool that can even compare by
content(!). https://userbase.kde.org/Digikam/Duplicates
(Sorry, I'm not good at darktable's DAM features; I don't use them.
Usually, I only have one set of images ('film roll' - which I find
sounds rather weird in this age) in darktable; I process the photos
and remove all images from the DB, then import the next.)
Kofa
On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 21:49, Tobias Krause wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just started using darktbale - in the first step mainly as DAM tool
> trying to clean the mess of photos that have been spread over different
> devices, folder, ...
>
> First things first: darktable is amazing and after just using it fore
> some days I wonder how I could ever use something else. Thanks to all
> developers!
>
> Unfortunately quite some of the the photos are stored more than once and
> there is no "main" folder containing all images.
>
> Is there a way to find photos in the database which are the same by
> filename and date? Knowing a photo has a twin would make live easier
> when it comes to trashing duplicate files: trash all photos in a
> specific folder which have a duplicate in some other folder.
>
> Regards
> Tobias
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Re: [darktable-user] OpenCL *sometimes* not available: could not create context for device 0: -6
Hi, On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 23:05, Holger Wünsche wrote: > I am not certain, but I belive the -6 means "CL_OUT_OF_HOST_MEMORY", > which means darktable was not able to allocate enough memory on your computer. Thanks for the info. Interesting. As I said, in the case above, I just quit darktable and started it again. I did see that sometimes if I have a browser open, darktable displays this error; quitting darktable, closing the browser, launching darktable again often solves the problem. I now did some tests (launched Firefox, then opened GMail, Facebook and Youtube in tabs), and I also launched my Eclipse Java developer environment. I was unable to reproduce the issue until I duplicated the Facebook tab quite a few times, and then got the -6 error again. With -d memory added to the command-line: [memory] at startup [memory] max address space (vmpeak): 132400 kB [memory] cur address space (vmsize): 132400 kB [memory] max used memory (vmhwm ): 23996 kB [memory] cur used memory (vmrss ): 23984 kB [more messages showing opencl loading] 0.921104 [opencl_init] could not create context for device 0: -6 0.921138 [opencl_init] no suitable devices found. 0.921146 [opencl_init] FINALLY: opencl is NOT AVAILABLE on this system. 0.921153 [opencl_init] initial status of opencl enabled flag is OFF. [memory] after successful startup [memory] max address space (vmpeak):13823304 kB [memory] cur address space (vmsize): 9609808 kB [memory] max used memory (vmhwm ): 104192 kB [memory] cur used memory (vmrss ): 104192 kB I closed the browser tabs, except for GMail; after that, OpenCL works, and the log reads: [memory] at startup [memory] max address space (vmpeak): 132400 kB [memory] cur address space (vmsize): 132400 kB [memory] max used memory (vmhwm ): 24368 kB [memory] cur used memory (vmrss ): 24368 kB [more messages showing opencl loading] [memory] after successful startup [memory] max address space (vmpeak):14143912 kB [memory] cur address space (vmsize):14143912 kB [memory] max used memory (vmhwm ): 267352 kB [memory] cur used memory (vmrss ): 267352 kB Kofa darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
