Re: [darktable-user] Full month name in 'export selected'
* Archie Macintosh [09-20-19 09:44]: > I'm sure the answer must be obvious, but I'm struggling to find the > right variable to use as a placeholder in 'Export selected' so that > the output filename has the form MonthName-Year (e.g. > September-2019.tif). > > I'd be grateful for advice about the right variable to use to insert > the month in the form of the full word for the month name. (Preferably > the EXIF month, but the current month would do if that's not > possible.) I alter *all* filenames on import, exiv2 \-k \-r %y%m%d_%H%M%S_:basename: \.\/*.{nef,jpg}' so export will appear as 190910_192003_aaa_3768.jpg and original was AAA_3768.NEF adjust as desired. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] GFX card recommendations
* Guillermo Rozas [09-15-19 18:59]: > > > * If binary, which are best/most stable/fastest? > > None are. Binaries are always a pain. > > I disagree with this. In Ubuntu (and derivatives) NVidia binary > drivers are installed and usually work out of the box (even on > Optimus-based notebooks), and OpenCL support can be installed directly > from the official Ubuntu repositories. I've been using darktable like > this for years and never had any problem installing or upgrading the > system. I use "the hard way" on openSUSE Tw and have for many years. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] scrolling-related questions
* Matteo Moci [09-07-19 11:46]: > Hello Darktable Users, > Apologies if this has already been asked, but is the concept of smooth > scrolling implemented and/or configurable in darktable? > > I would like it in lighttable, when scrolling up and down and also in the > film strip at the bottom of the darkroom mode. guess I don't understand "smooth scrolling" as I believe that is what I *normally* experience. opensuse Tumbelweed linux darktable-2.7.0~git1674.d1efea875 > On a related issue, I can only scroll the active modules when my pointer is > hovering the narrow area occupied by the scrollbar: is it on purpose? > I am on a mid-2012 macbook pro, os 10.14.6. > I find it a bit uncomfortable having to position the pointer on the > scrollbar, otherwise the wheel doesn't make the scroll happen. > This happens also in the left side functions (snapshots, history, etc... ). it is so that module parameters are not inadvertedly changed. the scrollbar is for scrolling, the mouse wheel when over a module changes parameters. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Export problem
* Patrick Shanahan [09-03-19 17:10]: > * Niranjan Rao [09-03-19 16:31]: > > Greetings, > > > > Darkable 2.6.2 on Ubuntu 18.04 > > > > Raw file at > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zt-3c-dyAsbu-iJiSxOhfFpRdT9HMaE-/view > > > > Exported image at > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/16F1h8lbGKYIrtwi9oRhdajmHCLEVFr-2/view > > > > This is the first time I am seeing darkroom view of the image not matching > > with exported image and wondering what's going on. I'm getting totally > > different colors (awful blue/green tinge) in exported image. Darkroom tab > > does not show these colors and image looks presentable. > > > > I have not done any extra processing and only following modules are applied, > > can provide XMP file if needed. > > > > 1. Original > > > > 2. Orientation > > > > 3. Sharpen > > > > 4. Base curve > > > > 5. Levels > > > > 6. Color contrast > > original > orientation > sharpen > highlight reconstruction > lens correction > chromatic aberations > local contrast > exposure (default correction) > > http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/DSC03298.jpg > appears quite similar to the depction of the origianl raw. do not know > what you did from what you posted. > darktable-2.7.0~git1664.c93795b73 possibly the version of dt you use does not support your camera... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Export problem
* Niranjan Rao [09-03-19 16:31]: > Greetings, > > Darkable 2.6.2 on Ubuntu 18.04 > > Raw file at > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zt-3c-dyAsbu-iJiSxOhfFpRdT9HMaE-/view > > Exported image at > https://drive.google.com/file/d/16F1h8lbGKYIrtwi9oRhdajmHCLEVFr-2/view > > This is the first time I am seeing darkroom view of the image not matching > with exported image and wondering what's going on. I'm getting totally > different colors (awful blue/green tinge) in exported image. Darkroom tab > does not show these colors and image looks presentable. > > I have not done any extra processing and only following modules are applied, > can provide XMP file if needed. > > 1. Original > > 2. Orientation > > 3. Sharpen > > 4. Base curve > > 5. Levels > > 6. Color contrast original orientation sharpen highlight reconstruction lens correction chromatic aberations local contrast exposure (default correction) http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/DSC03298.jpg appears quite similar to the depction of the origianl raw. do not know what you did from what you posted. darktable-2.7.0~git1664.c93795b73 -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Problems when Opening Fujifilm X-T30 raw files
* nikted [08-18-19 19:24]: > Rawtherapee reads the raw photos no problem!Sent from Samsung tablet. > Original message From: Patrick Shanahan > Date: 2019-08-18 8:01 p.m. (GMT-04:00) To: > darktable-user@lists.darktable.org Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Problems > when Opening Fujifilm X-T30 raw files * Patrick Shanahan > [08-18-19 18:59]:> * David Vincent-Jones [08-18-19 > 13:38]:> > Thanks Patrick the problem exists in the same way whether > downloading> > from the card directly or through the camera. The problem does > not appear to> > be a function of my process.> > > > David> > > > On 8/18/19 > 10:18 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:> > > * David Vincent-Jones > [08-18-19 12:19]:> > > > I have, intermittently, had > similar problems importing images directly from> > > > my Fuji X-Pro2. > Sometimes there is the error message and occasionally the> > > > import goes > ahead but until the last image is in place all of the thumbnails> > > > are > totally blank, then they all open correctly.> > > > > > > > Sometimes I just > need a dt restart, sometimes I update the git ... neither> > > > is a > satisfactory solution. I have mentioned these problems previously on> > > > > this forum and had no response so assumed that it was my system at fault.> > > > > > > > > David> > > > > > > > On 8/18/19 8:54 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:> > > > > > * nikted [08-18-19 11:14]:> > > > > > Thank you > Frank!I believe the raw files are the same for X-T3 and X-T30, since both > cameras have the same processor.The photos load in the Lightroom but then > when try to open a raw, (*.raf, file type) image, i get the message that it > can't read the white balance. I am very surprised that no body else has > reported the same issue.I wish i could find a solution so i can use > Darktable...Thanks again,NjckSent from Samsung tablet.> > > > > > > Original message From: "Frank J." Date: > 2019-08-18 7:15 a.m. (GMT-04:00) To: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org > Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Problems when Opening Fujifilm X-T30 raw files > Am 15.08.19 um 21:21 schrieb nikted:> Hello,> > I am using the latest > Darktable for Windows version. I have a Fujifilm > X-T30 camera. When try to > open any photo on raw format, i get a message > saying : It can't read the > white balance and it fails to load the photo. > Is this a known problem? Any > suggestions on how to resolve it?..> NickHallo,you can find supported cameras > on https://www.darktable.org/resources/camera-support/I see Fujifilm X-T20, > X-T3, X30, ... but no "Fujifilm > X-T30".--Frankdarktable > user mailing listto unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> > > > > perhaps you can > provide the requested sample images as described here:> > > > > > https://raw.pixls.us/> > > > > so darktable can be configured to recognize > your raw images.> > > > > > > > > > > > > I would suggest saving your > expensive camera battery and change to> > > removing the memory card and > utilizing a card reader to transfer your> > > images.> > > > > > but ...> > > > > > > I cannot comment on those problems as I do not follow that regimen.> > > > > > > then you have a defective card or camera ???disregard that. I would > "guess" the raw file format is not recognizedcorrectly or hasn't been > decoded. might check using rawtherapee but Ibelieve they both utilize the > same decoding.I still would not dl directly from my camera, use a card > reader.-- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA > @ptilopterihttp://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member > facebook/ptilopteriPhotos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ > IRCnet > freenodedarktable > user mailing listto unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or again, I DO NOT WANT PERSONAL MAIL for mail posted on the list. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Problems when Opening Fujifilm X-T30 raw files
* nikted [08-18-19 19:10]: > No, i can read the card and all the photos from windows. I save every photo > in jpg and raw format and it is only the raw (*.raf) photos that have the > problem. If i connect the camera to my computer and use the fujifilm > software, i can see and do some basic edits on the raw photos, including > changing the White balance. It is only in Darktable i have the issue.Thanks > for your reply!NickSent from Samsung tablet. > Original message ----From: Patrick Shanahan > Date: 2019-08-18 7:58 p.m. (GMT-04:00) To: > darktable-user@lists.darktable.org Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Problems > when Opening Fujifilm X-T30 raw files * David Vincent-Jones > [08-18-19 13:38]:> Thanks Patrick the problem > exists in the same way whether downloading> from the card directly or through > the camera. The problem does not appear to> be a function of my process.> > > David> > On 8/18/19 10:18 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:> > * David > Vincent-Jones [08-18-19 12:19]:> > > I have, > intermittently, had similar problems importing images directly from> > > my > Fuji X-Pro2. Sometimes there is the error message and occasionally the> > > > import goes ahead but until the last image is in place all of the thumbnails> > > > are totally blank, then they all open correctly.> > > > > > Sometimes I > just need a dt restart, sometimes I update the git ... neither> > > is a > satisfactory solution. I have mentioned these problems previously on> > > > this forum and had no response so assumed that it was my system at fault.> > > > > > > David> > > > > > On 8/18/19 8:54 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:> > > > * > nikted [08-18-19 11:14]:> > > > > Thank you Frank!I > believe the raw files are the same for X-T3 and X-T30, since both cameras > have the same processor.The photos load in the Lightroom but then when try to > open a raw, (*.raf, file type) image, i get the message that it can't read > the white balance. I am very surprised that no body else has reported the > same issue.I wish i could find a solution so i can use Darktable...Thanks > again,NjckSent from Samsung tablet.> > > > > Original message > From: "Frank J." Date: 2019-08-18 7:15 > a.m. (GMT-04:00) To: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org Subject: Re: > [darktable-user] Problems when Opening Fujifilm X-T30 raw files Am 15.08.19 > um 21:21 schrieb nikted:> Hello,> > I am using the latest Darktable for > Windows version. I have a Fujifilm > X-T30 camera. When try to open any photo > on raw format, i get a message > saying : It can't read the white balance and > it fails to load the photo. > Is this a known problem? Any suggestions on how > to resolve it?..> NickHallo,you can find supported cameras on > https://www.darktable.org/resources/camera-support/I see Fujifilm X-T20, > X-T3, X30, ... but no "Fujifilm > X-T30".--Frankdarktable > user mailing listto unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> > > > perhaps you can provide > the requested sample images as described here:> > > > > https://raw.pixls.us/> > > > so darktable can be configured to recognize your > raw images.> > > > > > > > > > I would suggest saving your expensive camera > battery and change to> > removing the memory card and utilizing a card reader > to transfer your> > images.> > > > but ...> > > > I cannot comment on those > problems as I do not follow that regimen.> > then you have a defective card > or camera ???-- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA > @ptilopterihttp://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member > facebook/ptilopteriPhotos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ > IRCnet > freenodedarktable > user mailing listto unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org appears there is support for your X-T30 https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/2366 I suggest you file a bug report: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues it will not be solved here, dev's need to see the problem. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Problems when Opening Fujifilm X-T30 raw files
* nikted [08-18-19 16:30]: > Same issue with me, exactly as David described it!Sent from Samsung tablet. > Original message From: David Vincent-Jones > Date: 2019-08-18 2:37 p.m. (GMT-04:00) To: > darktable-user@lists.darktable.org Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Problems > when Opening Fujifilm X-T30 raw files > Thanks Patrick the problem exists in the > same way whether downloading from the card directly or through > the camera. The problem does not appear to be a function of my > process. > David > > On 8/18/19 10:18 AM, Patrick Shanahan > wrote: > > > * David Vincent-Jones [08-18-19 12:19]: > > > I have, intermittently, had similar problems importing images > directly from > my Fuji X-Pro2. Sometimes there is the error message and occasionally the > import goes ahead but until the last image is in place all of the thumbnails > are totally blank, then they all open correctly. > > Sometimes I just need a dt restart, sometimes I update the git ... neither > is a satisfactory solution. I have mentioned these problems previously on > this forum and had no response so assumed that it was my system at fault. > > David > > On 8/18/19 8:54 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * nikted [08-18-19 11:14]: > > > Thank you Frank!I believe the raw files are the same for X-T3 and > X-T30, since both cameras have the same processor.The photos load in the > Lightroom but then when try to open a raw, (*.raf, file type) image, i get > the message that it can't read the white balance. I am very surprised that no > body else has reported the same issue.I wish i could find a solution so i can > use Darktable...Thanks again,NjckSent from Samsung tablet. > Original message From: "Frank J." > Date: 2019-08-18 7:15 a.m. (GMT-04:00) To: > darktable-user@lists.darktable.org Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Problems > when Opening Fujifilm X-T30 raw files Am 15.08.19 um 21:21 schrieb nikted:> > Hello,> > I am using the latest Darktable for Windows version. I have a > Fujifilm > X-T30 camera. When try to open any photo on raw format, i get a > message > saying : It can't read the white balance and it fails to load the > photo. > Is this a known problem? Any suggestions on how to resolve it?..> > NickHallo,you can find supported cameras on > https://www.darktable.org/resources/camera-support/I see Fujifilm X-T20, > X-T3, X30, ... but no "Fujifilm > X-T30".--Frankdarktable > user mailing listto unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > perhaps you can provide the requested sample images as described > here: >https://raw.pixls.us/ > so darktable can be configured to recognize your raw images. > > > > > > > I would suggest saving your expensive camera battery and change to > removing the memory card and utilizing a card reader to transfer your > images. > > but ... > > I cannot comment on those problems as I do not follow that regimen. > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or I am guessing but would say the camera raw format is not being decoded correctly or has not yet been decoded for darktable. is the format listed as being recognized by darktable? did you provide the sample raw files necessary for darktable to recognize your camera? that is the *first* necessary step. hundreds of posts here will not achieve that. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Problems when Opening Fujifilm X-T30 raw files
* Patrick Shanahan [08-18-19 18:59]: > * David Vincent-Jones [08-18-19 13:38]: > > Thanks Patrick the problem exists in the same way whether downloading > > from the card directly or through the camera. The problem does not appear to > > be a function of my process. > > > > David > > > > On 8/18/19 10:18 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * David Vincent-Jones [08-18-19 12:19]: > > > > I have, intermittently, had similar problems importing images directly > > > > from > > > > my Fuji X-Pro2. Sometimes there is the error message and occasionally > > > > the > > > > import goes ahead but until the last image is in place all of the > > > > thumbnails > > > > are totally blank, then they all open correctly. > > > > > > > > Sometimes I just need a dt restart, sometimes I update the git ... > > > > neither > > > > is a satisfactory solution. I have mentioned these problems previously > > > > on > > > > this forum and had no response so assumed that it was my system at > > > > fault. > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > On 8/18/19 8:54 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > * nikted [08-18-19 11:14]: > > > > > > Thank you Frank!I believe the raw files are the same for X-T3 and > > > > > > X-T30, since both cameras have the same processor.The photos load > > > > > > in the Lightroom but then when try to open a raw, (*.raf, file > > > > > > type) image, i get the message that it can't read the white > > > > > > balance. I am very surprised that no body else has reported the > > > > > > same issue.I wish i could find a solution so i can use > > > > > > Darktable...Thanks again,NjckSent from Samsung tablet. > > > > > > Original message From: "Frank J." > > > > > > Date: 2019-08-18 7:15 a.m. > > > > > > (GMT-04:00) To: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org Subject: Re: > > > > > > [darktable-user] Problems when Opening Fujifilm X-T30 raw files Am > > > > > > 15.08.19 um 21:21 schrieb nikted:> Hello,> > I am using the latest > > > > > > Darktable for Windows version. I have a Fujifilm > X-T30 camera. > > > > > > When try to open any photo on raw format, i get a message > saying > > > > > > : It can't read the white balance and it fails to load the photo. > > > > > > > Is this a known problem? Any suggestions on how to resolve it?..> > > > > > > NickHallo,you can find supported cameras on > > > > > > https://www.darktable.org/resources/camera-support/I see Fujifilm > > > > > > X-T20, X-T3, X30, ... but no "Fujifilm > > > > > > X-T30".--Frankdarktable > > > > > > user mailing listto unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > perhaps you can provide the requested sample images as described here: > > > > > https://raw.pixls.us/ > > > > > so darktable can be configured to recognize your raw images. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would suggest saving your expensive camera battery and change to > > > removing the memory card and utilizing a card reader to transfer your > > > images. > > > > > > but ... > > > > > > I cannot comment on those problems as I do not follow that regimen. > > > > > > then you have a defective card or camera ??? disregard that. I would "guess" the raw file format is not recognized correctly or hasn't been decoded. might check using rawtherapee but I believe they both utilize the same decoding. I still would not dl directly from my camera, use a card reader. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Problems when Opening Fujifilm X-T30 raw files
* David Vincent-Jones [08-18-19 13:38]: > Thanks Patrick the problem exists in the same way whether downloading > from the card directly or through the camera. The problem does not appear to > be a function of my process. > > David > > On 8/18/19 10:18 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * David Vincent-Jones [08-18-19 12:19]: > > > I have, intermittently, had similar problems importing images directly > > > from > > > my Fuji X-Pro2. Sometimes there is the error message and occasionally the > > > import goes ahead but until the last image is in place all of the > > > thumbnails > > > are totally blank, then they all open correctly. > > > > > > Sometimes I just need a dt restart, sometimes I update the git ... neither > > > is a satisfactory solution. I have mentioned these problems previously on > > > this forum and had no response so assumed that it was my system at fault. > > > > > > David > > > > > > On 8/18/19 8:54 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * nikted [08-18-19 11:14]: > > > > > Thank you Frank!I believe the raw files are the same for X-T3 and > > > > > X-T30, since both cameras have the same processor.The photos load in > > > > > the Lightroom but then when try to open a raw, (*.raf, file type) > > > > > image, i get the message that it can't read the white balance. I am > > > > > very surprised that no body else has reported the same issue.I wish i > > > > > could find a solution so i can use Darktable...Thanks again,NjckSent > > > > > from Samsung tablet. > > > > > Original message From: "Frank J." > > > > > Date: 2019-08-18 7:15 a.m. (GMT-04:00) > > > > > To: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org Subject: Re: [darktable-user] > > > > > Problems when Opening Fujifilm X-T30 raw files Am 15.08.19 um 21:21 > > > > > schrieb nikted:> Hello,> > I am using the latest Darktable for > > > > > Windows version. I have a Fujifilm > X-T30 camera. When try to open > > > > > any photo on raw format, i get a message > saying : It can't read the > > > > > white balance and it fails to load the photo. > Is this a known > > > > > problem? Any suggestions on how to resolve it?..> NickHallo,you can > > > > > find supported cameras on > > > > > https://www.darktable.org/resources/camera-support/I see Fujifilm > > > > > X-T20, X-T3, X30, ... but no "Fujifilm > > > > > X-T30".--Frankdarktable > > > > > user mailing listto unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > perhaps you can provide the requested sample images as described here: > > > > https://raw.pixls.us/ > > > > so darktable can be configured to recognize your raw images. > > > > > > > > > > I would suggest saving your expensive camera battery and change to > > removing the memory card and utilizing a card reader to transfer your > > images. > > > > but ... > > > > I cannot comment on those problems as I do not follow that regimen. > > then you have a defective card or camera ??? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Problems when Opening Fujifilm X-T30 raw files
* David Vincent-Jones [08-18-19 12:19]: > I have, intermittently, had similar problems importing images directly from > my Fuji X-Pro2. Sometimes there is the error message and occasionally the > import goes ahead but until the last image is in place all of the thumbnails > are totally blank, then they all open correctly. > > Sometimes I just need a dt restart, sometimes I update the git ... neither > is a satisfactory solution. I have mentioned these problems previously on > this forum and had no response so assumed that it was my system at fault. > > David > > On 8/18/19 8:54 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * nikted [08-18-19 11:14]: > > > Thank you Frank!I believe the raw files are the same for X-T3 and X-T30, > > > since both cameras have the same processor.The photos load in the > > > Lightroom but then when try to open a raw, (*.raf, file type) image, i > > > get the message that it can't read the white balance. I am very surprised > > > that no body else has reported the same issue.I wish i could find a > > > solution so i can use Darktable...Thanks again,NjckSent from Samsung > > > tablet. > > > Original message From: "Frank J." > > > Date: 2019-08-18 7:15 a.m. (GMT-04:00) To: > > > darktable-user@lists.darktable.org Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Problems > > > when Opening Fujifilm X-T30 raw files Am 15.08.19 um 21:21 schrieb > > > nikted:> Hello,> > I am using the latest Darktable for Windows version. I > > > have a Fujifilm > X-T30 camera. When try to open any photo on raw format, > > > i get a message > saying : It can't read the white balance and it fails > > > to load the photo. > Is this a known problem? Any suggestions on how to > > > resolve it?..> NickHallo,you can find supported cameras on > > > https://www.darktable.org/resources/camera-support/I see Fujifilm X-T20, > > > X-T3, X30, ... but no "Fujifilm > > > X-T30".--Frankdarktable > > > user mailing listto unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > perhaps you can provide the requested sample images as described here: > >https://raw.pixls.us/ > > so darktable can be configured to recognize your raw images. > > > > > I would suggest saving your expensive camera battery and change to removing the memory card and utilizing a card reader to transfer your images. but ... I cannot comment on those problems as I do not follow that regimen. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Problems when Opening Fujifilm X-T30 raw files
* nikted [08-18-19 11:14]: > Thank you Frank!I believe the raw files are the same for X-T3 and X-T30, > since both cameras have the same processor.The photos load in the Lightroom > but then when try to open a raw, (*.raf, file type) image, i get the message > that it can't read the white balance. I am very surprised that no body else > has reported the same issue.I wish i could find a solution so i can use > Darktable...Thanks again,NjckSent from Samsung tablet. > Original message From: "Frank J." > Date: 2019-08-18 7:15 a.m. (GMT-04:00) To: > darktable-user@lists.darktable.org Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Problems > when Opening Fujifilm X-T30 raw files Am 15.08.19 um 21:21 schrieb nikted:> > Hello,> > I am using the latest Darktable for Windows version. I have a > Fujifilm > X-T30 camera. When try to open any photo on raw format, i get a > message > saying : It can't read the white balance and it fails to load the > photo. > Is this a known problem? Any suggestions on how to resolve it?..> > NickHallo,you can find supported cameras on > https://www.darktable.org/resources/camera-support/I see Fujifilm X-T20, > X-T3, X30, ... but no "Fujifilm > X-T30".--Frankdarktable > user mailing listto unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org perhaps you can provide the requested sample images as described here: https://raw.pixls.us/ so darktable can be configured to recognize your raw images. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] OpenCL error starting dt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org not if opencl works correctly. there is an advantage over *only* cpu on many nvidia cards. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Grouping Button
* David Vincent-Jones [08-09-19 17:36]: > The grouping button on the top frame of the images appears to have been > removed. How are we now selecting the 'head' image from the group now? just went thru that, disappeared w/o notice on several local machines, but not all. is controllable by a setting: GUI options darkroom show search module text entry mine is set to "show both" -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Crop to exact size
* Patrick Shanahan [08-08-19 10:47]: > * Marco DE BOOIJ [08-08-19 10:35]: > > That sounds like a good idea. I will figure out how to create such a style. > > I will make a 1734x1734 crop when I am on a 100% picture for this style. In > > the mean time I can use the copy/paste of the 'crop portion' of an image > > with the correct size. How can I enter an RFC to have this option in > > darktable? > > > > Op 07-08-19 om 22:08 schreef Patrick Shanahan: > > > fwiw, I cannot either. I believe the is only for angular > > > positioning. but it is possible to crop one image, go to lighttable, copy > > > crop portion of history stack and paste it to other images. then edit the > > > other images to reposition the crop to desired location and you will have > > > the same crop parameters. one could craft a style of only crop at > > > particular parameters and use that to make a group of photos have > > > "exactly" the same crop. > > > > > > just successfully test the copy, paste. did not bother to make a style. > > > > > > -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > > http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri > > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pulls er, maybe better: https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Crop to exact size
* Marco DE BOOIJ [08-08-19 10:35]: > That sounds like a good idea. I will figure out how to create such a style. > I will make a 1734x1734 crop when I am on a 100% picture for this style. In > the mean time I can use the copy/paste of the 'crop portion' of an image > with the correct size. How can I enter an RFC to have this option in > darktable? > > Op 07-08-19 om 22:08 schreef Patrick Shanahan: > > fwiw, I cannot either. I believe the is only for angular > > positioning. but it is possible to crop one image, go to lighttable, copy > > crop portion of history stack and paste it to other images. then edit the > > other images to reposition the crop to desired location and you will have > > the same crop parameters. one could craft a style of only crop at > > particular parameters and use that to make a group of photos have > > "exactly" the same crop. > > > > just successfully test the copy, paste. did not bother to make a style. > > > > -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pulls -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Crop to exact size
* Marco DE BOOIJ [08-07-19 15:22]: > Thanks guys for your remarks. > > I cannot get the window to add the size(s) like Patrick. I tried his > proposal to enter the sizes in the config file. Darktable reduces my > 1734x1734 into aspect ratio 1 (square). To bypass the 'wrong' export size I > also crop my pictures 1 or 2px bigger. > > About the solution from Willy. I know this but I do not want to scale my > pictures. I opted to crop them slightly bigger. > > Marco > > Op 07-08-19 om 13:59 schreef Willy Williams: > > > > You might want to look in the Export selected module (2.3.12, p. 36 in > > the Fine Manual). You can set the max size easily and darktable will > > scale the image down appropriately. > > > > Willy > > > > -- > > > > "There are no bad pictures; that's just how your face looks sometimes." > > > > - Abraham Lincoln > > > > -- > > On 8/7/19 7:30 AM, Jochen Keil wrote: > > > Hi Patrick, > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 5:14 AM Patrick Shanahan > > <mailto:p...@opensuse.org>> wrote: > > > > > > * Marco DE BOOIJ > > <mailto:marco.maill...@debooy.eu>> [08-06-19 17:16]: > > > > I need my pictures in an square format of 1734x1734 pixels. I > > > use the crop > > > > module for this. My problem is 2 fold. First of all it is not > > > easy to drag > > > > it to the exact dimension. The second problem is that if I > > > export it to a 16 > > > > bit TIFF image the size is often 1 bit smaller. Is there a way > > > to enter the > > > > exact size? It is possible in other modules to enter an exact > > > value. > > > > > > > > > I've had a similar problem before and solved it by exporting the > > > picture slightly larger (1 or 2px) and then cropping it with > > > ImageMagick (convert -crop or -geom or so..). > > > > > > > > > > > I know that I can enter sizes when I export but this will > > > change the image > > > > even if it is just a little bit (shrink, expand). > > > > > > > > > iirc: > > > in the crop module and type your parameters > > > > > > > > > whereever I click on the crop module, I either get the drop down > > > menu for the various options or the slider for the rotation angle. > > > > > > and I believe it is in the fine manual > > > > > > > > > It's not from what I can see: > > > > > > https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/modules.html > > > > > > But you can define your own aspect ratios in the config fwiw. > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA > > > @ptilopteri > > > http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member > > > facebook/ptilopteri > > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet > > > freenode > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > <mailto:darktable-user%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org fwiw, I cannot either. I believe the is only for angular positioning. but it is possible to crop one image, go to lighttable, copy crop portion of history stack and paste it to other images. then edit the other images to reposition the crop to desired location and you will have the same crop parameters. one could craft a style of only crop at particular parameters and use that to make a group of photos have "exactly" the same crop. just successfully test the copy, paste. did not bother to make a style. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Looking for some use cases for a metadata editor in darktable
* I. Ivanov [08-07-19 02:20]: > > > have you looked in an xmp file for the date? > > I may be missing something here but what I did - I imported few images then > applied time offset +9h in my case. This did change the image information > pane to show the correct time since I offset it. However - when I exported > the images with copy - creating the name based on the EXIF - it does place > correct time within the file name as I offset it but the new image has still > the original time - before the offset was applied. I checked after that the > XMP and I cannot locate entry about time modification / offset etc. So... > either I don't know what to look for or the entry is simply not there. To me > this is a metadata editing... > > What I tried - I offset the time - xmp is produced. Time is correct. Removed > the images then re imported them (the xmp is present no change to it). Time > offset is gone. Looks like this is likely preserved only on DB level. I do not see the image time/date in the xmp files. > > > > iianm, an "undo" function currently exists. > > > How do you trigger it in lightroom? Is it in DT 2.6.2? I can see very old FR > https://redmine.darktable.org/issues/8498 and it is still open. Also this > one https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/metadata_editor.html#metadata_editor > and this one https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/tagging.html are not saying > anything about undo / redo. I am running dt master from git and seldom use undo and do not know whether it is available in the light-table. perhaps your interest in functions which do not appear to be available in the version you use may be provided in the git master builds and you might try them. I have been running git master for five or six years and experienced very few problems with over 100k photos. presently utilizing darktable-2.7.0~git1606.4c5a6d05f -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Looking for some use cases for a metadata editor in darktable
* I. Ivanov [08-06-19 20:58]: > > On 2019-08-06 05:22, Sam wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm looking at adding a full metadata interface to darktable, I've > > already posted to the developer mailing list > > <https://www.mail-archive.com/darktable-dev@lists.darktable.org/msg04528.html> > > and > > made a pull request on github > > <https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/pull/2819> about this but > > I'm looking for some input from users. So if you would use this, what > > sorts of metadata fields would you want to edit? How many photos would > > you edit at a time? And how would you select these (manually or via > > collections)? Do you have any other suggestions? > > > I usually use description, tags, creator, rights. Description tends to get > longer for me... I tend to name the pictures after the date. > (MMDD-MMSS). Some times I am struggling with pulling this from EXIF - > specifically when I have to offset the date +- 1h or more because of > incorrect clock. Not sure if it is possible but if I change the date I would > like it to carry forward. I understand modifying RAW is not a good idea and > agree with it. But if the info is recorded in the XMP and the user can elect > to read the XMP it would be nice. have you looked in an xmp file for the date? > I miss having keyboard navigation in the tag area - for example left arrow > to collapse branch, right to expand... > > I regularly tag and include metadata for 500 - 900 images at a time. > Currently working on 10k so I may end up with 2000 or more keepers (that > will have to be tagged) > > Currently - I don't think there is an easy way to copy / paste all metadata > or few fields from one image to another (or many others). If the fields > increase - it would be nice to have such. > > I've had cases when by mistake I overwritten tags / metadata on considerable > number of images. Having undo / redo feature would be very good actually > very very very good. iianm, an "undo" function currently exists. > Not sure if I am understanding correctly but new interface - do you mean a > completely separate are from lightable? Or still part of lightable? There > are other items that can be considered - like better visual identification > what is being tagged / edited but this can also crowd too much lighttable... > > > Thanks, > > Sam > > > > ____ > > Thank you, > > B > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Crop to exact size
* Marco DE BOOIJ [08-06-19 17:16]: > I need my pictures in an square format of 1734x1734 pixels. I use the crop > module for this. My problem is 2 fold. First of all it is not easy to drag > it to the exact dimension. The second problem is that if I export it to a 16 > bit TIFF image the size is often 1 bit smaller. Is there a way to enter the > exact size? It is possible in other modules to enter an exact value. > > I know that I can enter sizes when I export but this will change the image > even if it is just a little bit (shrink, expand). iirc: in the crop module and type your parameters and I believe it is in the fine manual -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Exported file differs from darktable edits
* grumpy oldgit [08-03-19 06:02]: > Hi. > > I have an installation on WIndows 7 Desktop and a Windows 10 Laptop. > > I have completed my most complicated edit to date. > When I export at a resolution of 2048 or 4096 length everything is as > expected. > However when exporting at full resolution (or even at 5000) all the colours > are incorrect. > It is almost like the history stack has stopped processing before > completion. > > Same happens on Windows 10 (Core i7 cpu) or Windows 7 > > All I could find online was this : > https://redmine.darktable.org/issues/11763 > > I have noted Open CL is not available even though I have a working openCL > graphics card (Radeon HD 4800 1GB), I was previously getting tiling failed > for module ‘atrous’. output may be garbled but seemed to have resolved by > increasing host memory limit from 500 to 1500. how are you determining colors are incorrect? what version of gt? can you upload a raw and the exported image and accompanying xmp files to a file share site? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Automatically apply multiple instances of a module
* Fidel Ramos [07-30-19 18:42]: > Hello everyone. > > I just discovered how well denoising high-ISO photos works by stacking two > profiled denoises, one wavelets for chroma and a non-local means for luma. > This is nothing new, it's in the Darktable manual > (https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/correction_group.html), but it's a > lot better than what I was doing before. > > So now I want to set up automatic presets to do this to all my photos > depending on camera model and ISO. Creating the presets and applying them > automatically works fine. The problem is that only one of the two presets > applies, because they are on the same module (denoise [profiled]), and I > don't see a way of automatically having two instances of the profiled > denoiser, one with each preset. > > Is there some trick I can use? Or a workaround? don't know about "trick" but you might look at styles. should be able to accomplish it there and there are plenty of examples available. https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/styles.html https://www.darktable.org/resources/ https://dtstyle.net/ -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] import process / workflow
* I. Ivanov [07-20-19 20:33]: > > > smb is slow and you have quite a large collection being imported. I would > > *guess* that dt has not had time to generate the previews yet. > > > > perhaps a better plan would have been to download the images to the smb > > drive or via nfs/sshfs first and then to import to dt. but that would > > probably still have been much slower than a local drive. there is an option in dt to make local copies, copy locally, of the group you wish to edit and then copy the xmp file back to the original drive, resync local copy, which would "greatly" aleviate your slowness. > I had considerable issues with DT files stored on USB connected to a router > (make believe server) and shared using SMB (took forever to import and > work). > > Oddly enough - if I am to copy the images back and forth using Nautilus or > command line - it would work much faster. > > Few months ago I changed the firmware to an open source one and gained > access to NFS shares on the router. Since then - the speed have increased > significantly. I mean specifically when DT r/w from the router. > > Few days ago I copied more than 10k directly to the USB (connected to the > router and shared over NFS). I am currently working out of it directly - on > a 8 year old laptop and the speed is okay. I mean - the bottle neck is not > any more the router. If you are on synology - you *should* be able to have > NFS share. For me - the experience with DT reading images over NFS is much > better comparing to the one over SMB. You may be able to improve r/w > performance on SMB with forcing different mounting options like smb version > but none of it was very reliable for me. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Collect images not working as expected
* Johann Spies [07-20-19 17:11]: > On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 at 20:30, Pascal Obry wrote: > > > Le samedi 20 juillet 2019 à 20:20 +0200, Johann Spies a écrit : > > > Is there any hope that we would be able to use PostgreSQL in the > > > future - a proper database? > > > > Serious? And you expect every user to install a PostgreSQL database > > server? > > > > At least as an option for those who want to use it. The others can use > SQLite. one must assume you count yourself among those. will you step up and provide the code to accomplish such? or hire someone to do so? or just continue to utilize the efforts of others rather than be bothered. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable is looping after crash
* Ludger Bolmerg [07-10-19 16:27]: > darktable 2.6.2 on FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p7 > > While exporting an image to jpg and loading another image into darkroom dt > ran out of swap space and crashed. > When I restart dt it seems to be running in a loop. It shows a couple of > previews in lighttable but is unresponsive and consumes 100 percent of cpu. > When restarting dt after the first crash I saw some messages on the console > regarding lua. Something like "... this may ever happen". Unfortunately I > can't find them in any of my log files and the messages are not > reproducible. > > Any ideas how to recover from this without reinstalling dt and re-importing > all of my images? you might run dt from cl using "darktable -d all " and watch for the problem. and you can reinstall dt w/o removing the library where your images are catalogued. and the dev's can usually be found on irc, freenode #darktable -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] import process / workflow
* shawn wilson [07-09-19 18:36]: > I've had darktable trying to import (almost) 9k of images (well, it > should be less than that and i think it's counting the cr2 different > from the jpeg) going for about a day now and I don't think it's doing > what I want (so any help would be appreciated here). > > I'm storing everything on a synology nas (currently using smb, but > i'll probably move to sshfs or even nfs as I think I want the extra > speed here) and I wanted to just be able to upload the pics from sd > card to the nas and then let darktable sync and pick stuff up. > However, after a day to import everything, this is what it looks like > [1] and none of the files open (i don't care about not seeing previews > as i generally go through pics and favorite from a phone. smb is slow and you have quite a large collection being imported. I would *guess* that dt has not had time to generate the previews yet. perhaps a better plan would have been to download the images to the smb drive or via nfs/sshfs first and then to import to dt. but that would probably still have been much slower than a local drive. also possible to download to a local drive, import into dt and then move the images to the remote drive and reimport. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] side by side comparison in darktable 2.7
* Anna Simon [07-07-19 14:23]: > Thanks but that's not what I mean. I think this is a new feature. > Viewing 2 whole photos next to each other. I read somewhere that it's > available in 2.7. > > On 07.07.19 19:45, Hervé Sainct wrote: > > for 2 snapshots, click on the snapshot (in its small window, top left if > > you didn't rearrange) : a line appears in the piddle of your pic with > > before/after, you can move the line and exchange right/left/top/bottom > > when clicking at the center > > > > > > Le 04/07/2019 à 16:21, Anna Simon a écrit : > > > hi, > > > > > > how does side by side comparison of 2 photos or 2 snapshots work in > > > darktable 2.7? > > > > > > thanks in advance for the help > > > > > > anna it is in git master -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] what is this in darktable?
* Glenn Malling [06-21-19 12:39]: > Nathan Cool is a professional real estate photographer. He has written > books <https://www.nathancoolphoto.com/books--real-estate-photography> > on the subject and has a YouTube channel. > > Glenn > > On 6/21/19 12:15 PM, Charlie Goodwin wrote: > > " other r.e.p. run a Nathan cool re bump." > > > > I can't make any sense of this at all. > > > > a. Â Cat walking on keyboard? > > b. Â World's worst autocorrect? > > c. Â Another language that just looks like English? why would be know or even care? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] what is this in darktable?
* Michael [06-21-19 11:21]: > "I thought Nathan cool was an adobe thing and I was hoping there was a > darktable equivelant." > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 11:15 AM Remco Viëtor > wrote: > > > On vendredi 21 juin 2019 16:57:16 CEST Michael wrote: > > > I'm trying to get into real estate photography and other r.e.p. run a > > > Nathan cool re bump to make their pictures perfect. > > > > This is supposed to make sense? > > never heard of "Nathan cool" and never used the "adobe thing". how would anyone answer your question with anything sensible? ps: if this is an example of your work ethic, might as well go to the pub and enjoy yourself rather than worry about real estate photography or any photography at all. yeah, not really being nice today. enjoy -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] git update problem
* Patrick Shanahan [06-18-19 17:43]: > * David Vincent-Jones [06-18-19 17:23]: > > On Manjaro and maintaining the git from the Arch repos. I am getting a > > message that my "keyring is not writable" followed by "Error: required key > > is missing from keyring" and then "Failed to commit transaction". > > > > Can somebody please advise a solution. > > remove gnome-keyring ??? or maybe alter permissions ??? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] git update problem
* David Vincent-Jones [06-18-19 17:23]: > On Manjaro and maintaining the git from the Arch repos. I am getting a > message that my "keyring is not writable" followed by "Error: required key > is missing from keyring" and then "Failed to commit transaction". > > Can somebody please advise a solution. remove gnome-keyring ??? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] Colour differences between lighttable view and darkroom view
* Bruce Williams [06-08-19 19:47]: > Yep, that was what it was. > Even though I had had that box checked in 2.4.4, apparently when I upgraded > to 2.6.2, it reverted to an unchecked state. > In a perfect world, the upgrade process should look to see the state of ALL > existing preferences, and maintain the user's settings after the upgrade. [MUTCH QUOTED MAT'L REMOVED] fwiw: I constantly update, master/git, and have never experienced this. perhaps a fat finger somewhere ??? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] systemd
* David Vincent-Jones [06-07-19 21:01]: > Can somebody tell me if there is any downside to running dt on a > distribution that is not using systemd dt and systemd are unrelated -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Tethering
* darkta...@911networks.com [06-05-19 12:37]: > On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 12:09:11 -0400 > Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > >iiuc, dt tethers using gphoto2 and your camera must be recongized by > >gphoto2 for tethering to work. > > It should be recognized because: > > 1. It's in the list of supported cameras of dt supported cameras or gphoto2? > 2. I can see in DT the liveview > > I just can't press the shutter. then perhaps your gphoto2 is not up-to-date or ??? but I don't believe dt does any of the conrolling, but gphoto2 does. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Tethering
* darkta...@911networks.com [06-05-19 12:05]: > DT 2.6.2 on Opensuse leap 15.1 and also on Manjaro xfce current, same > problem with both distributions. > > I'm having problem with the tethering of a Fuji X-Pro2. > > 1. I go into import > scan device and it shows the the camera. > 2. Switching to tethering > live view: works BUT I can't take any > picture. The camera doesn't respond to anything. I cannot press the > shutter BUT I can view in DT the live view. > > I also have a Canon 7DMk2 and the tethering with DT is working > properly! DT is capturing the photos and storing the raws in the hard > drive in the job directory. > > Anybody with Fuji experience or similar problem? iiuc, dt tethers using gphoto2 and your camera must be recongized by gphoto2 for tethering to work. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Collect Images, geotagging: anyone have example query syntax that will select images based on range of GPS location?
* Shawn [06-04-19 18:21]: > BREIF: jys: Thank you for confirming my suspicion. > Collect Images by comparing an expression to geotag value is a feature that > is overdue. > What's the best way to suggest? > Do dev's monitor here. > Do I need to join dev list > , or submit via website? *some* of the dev's hand in irc, freenode #darktable submit an enhancement request to github darktable -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] no panels on Darkroom view?
* jys [06-01-19 14:09]: > Those shortcuts aren't in a release version yet, but TAB is. > > On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, at 05:56, jjb wrote: > > Thanks, but that does not work for me. On Fedora 30. VERSION 2.6.2-1.fc30 > > > > On 6/1/19 1:56 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * jjb [06-01-19 06:41]: > > >> I would like to see panels in Darkroom view. > > >> > > >> Now Im have to click on pyramids to open them. > > >> > > >> How to automate this opening of panels? > > > use and/or to toggle open/close > > > left/right. the way you leave them when you exit dt is how they will > > > appear when you next enter. well, sorry. I have been running master-git version for many years, I tend to forget, especially since I have expierenced so few problems and have worked a great many images. 30s of thousands per year remember that once had a db problem, but minor. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] no panels on Darkroom view?
* jjb [06-01-19 06:41]: > I would like to see panels in Darkroom view. > > Now Im have to click on pyramids to open them. > > How to automate this opening of panels? use and/or to toggle open/close left/right. the way you leave them when you exit dt is how they will appear when you next enter. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Are the green martians kidnapping ( genetically ) our sea turtles ?
* Postmaster [05-29-19 13:01]: > I guess ur right. > > here is my after picture. To me it appears that green people are involved. > > If there is a MASTER RESET to darktable, i'll try that - but where? there is documentation, but you are probably tooo busy ... > anyway: linux fedora 29 -> files -> double click on 404.jpg ( runs default > darktable ) -> green turtle displayed by darktable. > > BTW you may also contribute to the save the blue turtle organization, if u > like. :) Maybe they are really reddish turtles. > ALSO the 1k mailing list size limitation does cut down on image quality, as > well as forcing one to add another entity in image manipulation. indeed, your are really being considerate merely posting 400k. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Are the green martians kidnapping ( genetically ) our sea turtles ?
* Remco Viëtor [05-27-19 11:30]: > On lundi 27 mai 2019 17:17:55 CEST Willy Williams wrote: > > Well, the Martian must be hiding in your machine. ( 8*{)} > > > > darktable renders that same image exactly the same as Firefox does on > > Ubuntu Linux 18.04 LTS. > > > > Willy > > > > > when I look at the turtle .jpg from > > > > > > https://www.seaturtlehospital.org/contact/ > > > > Probably... > > Given the way the "problem" was presented, I'd taken it for an attempt to get > readers to go to the page, not as a serious request for help with an image. why would one expect a jpg image to "look" different in dt? after all, it is a jpg and was undoubtedly intended to look as displayed in ff. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] What about adding more IPTC fields to the metadata editor?
* Bernhard [05-13-19 15:00]: > > > Bernhard schrieb am 13.05.19 um 17:27: > > > > > > mick crane schrieb am 13.05.19 um 13:06: > > > windows there's > > > https://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/ exiftools > > > http://u88.n24.queensu.ca/~bogdan/ GUI for exiftools > > > > > > linux looks like exiv2 will do it. > > there is > > http://hvdwolf.github.io/pyExifToolGUI/ > > for linux - also based on exiftool. > > > > But: don't know if that's working on the darktable xmp's also - never > > tested. > > > See attached, I'd suggest to try this: > You select an xmp (not the image file itself), press "copy from image" (then > you see what has been entered in darktable), fill the other fields, "save to > images" ... > > You should test if darktable exports these additional xmp information from > the xmp to the exported jpg. PLEASE post large files/images to a file sharing service rather than send them to everyone on the list, many who may not be interested and other who may be on measured service and you drive up their cost. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Moving Images
* David Vincent-Jones [04-30-19 19:08]: > Thank you ... very useful > > On 2019-04-30 1:44 p.m., Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * David Vincent-Jones [04-30-19 13:02]: > > > I recently moved an entire folder to one of a different name. In the > > > process > > > I did get a warning regarding loss of some xmp data and I proceeded anyway > > > (I was fully backed-up). I did loose all of my rating 'stars', a nuisance > > > but not earth shattering. Just information for others that may be doing > > > this > > > same move. > > if you edit ~/.config/darktable/library.db and change the file location > > old to new, you loose nothing > > > iirc, it is not even necessary to edit the library.db if you don't change the filenames. just move the group of files and accompanying xmp files and re-import them -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Moving Images
* David Vincent-Jones [04-30-19 13:02]: > I recently moved an entire folder to one of a different name. In the process > I did get a warning regarding loss of some xmp data and I proceeded anyway > (I was fully backed-up). I did loose all of my rating 'stars', a nuisance > but not earth shattering. Just information for others that may be doing this > same move. if you edit ~/.config/darktable/library.db and change the file location old to new, you loose nothing -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] color contrast
* David Vincent-Jones [04-24-19 00:36]: > My question firstly is, am I misunderstanding the function. If the lables > are in fact switched then I certainly will file on RedMine > > On 2019-04-23 7:22 p.m., Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * David Vincent-Jones [04-23-19 21:46]: > > > green vs magenta moving the mark towards magenta adds magenta (as > > > expected) > > > > > > blue vs yellow . moving the mark towards yellow adds blue (not as > > > expected) > > did you file issue at GitHub? GitHub is the recommended location to report issues and enhancements, RedMine may not be seen. inconsistant user interface would certainly be worthy of reporting, don't you think? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] color contrast
* David Vincent-Jones [04-23-19 21:46]: > green vs magenta moving the mark towards magenta adds magenta (as > expected) > > blue vs yellow . moving the mark towards yellow adds blue (not as > expected) did you file issue at GitHub? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Solid color fill
* ternaryd [04-20-19 03:37]: > Hi, > > I've got a sequence of images with an > overexposed, white background. However, there > are some areas, particularly in the corners, > where overexposure wasn't strong enough, so I'd > like to draw some polygons with a wide > feathering area and fill that with some color, > in this case white. > > An attempt to use the exposure module with a > drawn mask, increasing the exposure didn't > work, because I would have to add so much > light, that the feathering area becomes solid. > So obviously, I picked the wrong tool. > > Is there a way to do this in darktable? you might try the vignetting module. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Error when exporting
* Christian Gruber [04-19-19 05:41]: > When I try to export a certain picture, darktable prints a small window > that it could not export this file to darktable_exported/bla.jpg. Other > files work. > How can this failure be debugged? I already see that this file is not > exported, so this error message gives me no new information. *Why* it > can't write this file would be a very useful information. > By the way, I can touch this file, fill it with content, and there are > 26GB free in this partition. I have also exported another picture, and > it worked without a problem. what operating system? what version dt? can you provide a copy of subject file to a file sharing service? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Re: ATTENTION: darktable master may have some GUI glitches
* David Vincent-Jones [04-15-19 14:31]: > I do only have 'darktable' shown as a possible theme and there is no > theme folder on my system. > > darktable 2.7.0+1007~g2c02989e8 Manjaro/Arch > > Is there something needed that is not being included in the basic install > package? > > David > > On 2019-04-15 10:45 a.m., Pascal Obry wrote: > > Hello all! > > > > Just a followup on this. > > > > The beautiful CSS from Aurélien has been damaged by reverting part of > > the work without discussion. This means that the font variations on the > > CSS (light, condensed) are no more there in the default CSS. > > > > As you may know also, we can now select different theme from the > > preferences. So if you want to get back Aurélien's work make sure you > > select there "darktable-elegant" theme. > > > > Another note, if you are a GUI designer and you want to create theme > > please do so. We can discuss that and have the best theme integrated in > > darktable. I'm thinking about (without specific order): > > > > - a light (opposed to black) version > > - a gray version > > - a condensed version (for small screen?) > > - and whatever version you like. > > > > Send a PR to our GitHub, have people vote and discuss the theme and for > > sure the best ones will be integrated. > > > > Thanks! > > perhaps you need to install the latest master, darktable-2.7.0~git1015.3a74e2498-1178 I see two -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] DT 2.6.2 on Cosmic
* Tony Arnold [04-14-19 07:42]: > I saw an announcement of the release of DT 2.6.2 a while ago, but it's > not in the PPA for Ubuntu Cosmic yet. Any idea when it might appear? the dev's do not build distro install packages but provide the source so that distro packagers may provide the package for your chosen distro. contact the volunteer who provides darktable (lowercase) for your particular distro. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] Re: [darktable-dev] ATTENTION: darktable master may have some GUI glitches
* Patrick Shanahan [04-13-19 08:38]: > * Pascal Obry [04-13-19 05:22]: > > Hello Matej, > > > > > I'm not sure whether this is intended behaviour or a bug, please see > > > the linked image. The font is a lot bigger, and overall the GUI > > > doesn't look as "refined" as before. > > > > This looks ok to me. The font is indeed a bit bigger by default and the > > whole interface has a bit more spaces here and there. This is to answer > > recurrent request about all items being too small. > > > > I'm expecting to see a compact version of the default theme. But this > > will need time. We will certainly have more CSS in fact as it is now > > possible to have control over all items on the GUI. > > the font does appear big or rather thick. it is perhaps BOLD. I agree > for my screen that it is easier to read but would appear more pleasant if > not quite so bold. duh, I retract my ill-advised comment. the font on my display is quite fine, pleasant and acceptable. perhaps default font on the OP's display is odd? openSUSE Tumbleweed 20190411 darktable-2.7.0~git996.ef3752478-1161 -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] Re: [darktable-dev] ATTENTION: darktable master may have some GUI glitches
* Pascal Obry [04-13-19 05:22]: > Hello Matej, > > > I'm not sure whether this is intended behaviour or a bug, please see > > the linked image. The font is a lot bigger, and overall the GUI > > doesn't look as "refined" as before. > > This looks ok to me. The font is indeed a bit bigger by default and the > whole interface has a bit more spaces here and there. This is to answer > recurrent request about all items being too small. > > I'm expecting to see a compact version of the default theme. But this > will need time. We will certainly have more CSS in fact as it is now > possible to have control over all items on the GUI. the font does appear big or rather thick. it is perhaps BOLD. I agree for my screen that it is easier to read but would appear more pleasant if not quite so bold. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Keeping DT in sync between multiple computers
* Juha Lintula [04-09-19 15:37]: > Hi, > > I tested more and found an interesting detail. If I work only in Ubuntu, > everything works fine like Patrick described, but in Windows it doesn't > work. The additional xmp files are named differently in Windows and Linux. > In Windows it is image.raw_01.xmp and in Linux image_01.raw.xmp. Linux will > recognize the additional Linux style xmps, but not the Windows style. > Windows doesn't recognize either. > > -Juha > > On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 at 22:24, Juha Lintula wrote: > > > HI Patrick > > > > I tested to start darktable from command line with darktable --library > > :memory: and had the same result as when using database=:memory: in > > darktablerc. darktable shows only the primary edit image.raw.xmp, not the > > other version image.raw_01.xmp. I have tested darktablerc settings both > > in Windows 10 and Ubuntu and the command line in Windows. > > > > -Juha > > > > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 11:05, Bernhard > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 07.04.19 um 22:36: > >> > all three edits of the single image are there > >> > > >> > running dt master git901.e2188ea4b > >> > openSUSE Tumbleweed 20190403 > >> > images: > >> >181213_133958_aaa_2622.nef > >> >181213_122731_aaa_2621.nef.xmp > >> >181213_133958_aaa_2622_01.nef.xmp > >> >181213_133958_aaa_2622_02.nef.xmp > >> I wonder why the xmp has a different filename from the nef ... > >> (the duplicates seem to be correct) > >> > >> -- > >> > >> regards > >> Bernhard > >> > >> https://www.bilddateien.de > >> > >> > >> ________ > >> darktable user mailing list > >> to unsubscribe send a mail to > >> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > >> > >> don't know about dt on windows. never ran it there so haven't shared files either. but I do know it is possible to share on linux as previously described. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Keeping DT in sync between multiple computers
* Bernhard [04-08-19 04:06]: > > > Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 07.04.19 um 22:36: > > all three edits of the single image are there > > > > running dt master git901.e2188ea4b > > openSUSE Tumbleweed 20190403 > > images: > >181213_133958_aaa_2622.nef > >181213_122731_aaa_2621.nef.xmp > >181213_133958_aaa_2622_01.nef.xmp > >181213_133958_aaa_2622_02.nef.xmp > I wonder why the xmp has a different filename from the nef ... > (the duplicates seem to be correct) undoubtedly I mis-copied. I definitely shouild not, 181213_133958_aaa_2622.nef 181213_122731_aaa_2622.nef.xmp 181213_133958_aaa_2622_01.nef.xmp 181213_133958_aaa_2622_02.nef.xmp is correct. blame it on brown bottles :) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Keeping DT in sync between multiple computers
* Benjamin Daines [04-07-19 18:24]: > Try changing database=:memory: in your darktablerc file and see if that > changes the behavior? It seem that in theory launching with --library > :memory: should do the same thing, but perhaps it does not. > On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 16:36 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Benjamin Daines [04-07-19 13:56]: > > > Don't get hung up on the example file names I used in the > > > email. Theissue that I'm having is with the database "disabled" > > > darktable doesnot recognize additional versions of images that are > > > created (viaclicking duplicate in darktable, which creates a second > > > xmp file forthe image). What's worse is when you open the folder > > > in darktableafter closing it, not only is the version you've > > > created gone, but ifyou create the second version again DT > > > immediately overwrites thesecond xmp file. Hopefully that makes > > > more sense. On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 11:50 -0400, Patrick Shanahan > > > wrote: > > > > * Benjamin Daines [04-07-19 11:04]: > > > > > Importing the folder doesn't recognize versions > > > > > eitherunfortunately. On Sat, 2019-04-06 at 13:54 -0400, Patrick > > > > > Shanahanwrote: > > > > > > * Benjamin Daines [04-06-19 > > > > > > 12:51]: > > > > > > > The issue I'm running into now, with database=:memory: is > > > > > > > thatifI'veduplicated an image so that I've got two xmp > > > > > > > files forthe sameimage(say IMG1.xmp and IMG1_01.xmp), when > > > > > > > I close thefolder andopen itagain, DT only reads the > > > > > > > initial image, notthe secondversion. If Ithen create a new > > > > > > > version, DTimmediately overwritesIMG1_01.xmp, sounless I've > > > > > > > copied all myxmp files to asubdirectory, that work > > > > > > > islost. It would be bestto have darktableautomatically > > > > > > > create these versionswhen seeingIMG_01.xmp.Hopefully that > > > > > > > makes sense. On Tue, 2019-04-02 at07:20 +0300, JuhaLintula > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi!I also use darktable only for image processing and > > > > > > > > havethesamesetting as Robert; database=:memory: This > > > > > > > > settingwillalwaysautomatically read the .xmp files as you > > > > > > > > arealwaysstarting with afresh database.-JuhaOn Tue, 2 Apr > > > > > > > > 2019at 05:20, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > > > > * I. Ivanov [04-01-19 20:03]: > > > > > > > > > > On 2019-04-01 16:34, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > * Benjamin Daines > > > > > > > > > > > [04-01-19 > > > > > > > > > 18:46]: > > > > > > > > > > > > In my workflow I find myself using multiple > > > > > > > > > > > > machinestowork > > > > > > > > > on the > > > > > > > > > > > > same images. My configuration right now on > > > > > > > > > > > > bothmachinesis > > > > > > > > > to have DT > > > > > > > > > > > > look for updated xmp files on start up and that > > > > > > > > > > > > seemstowork > > > > > > > > > pretty > > > > > > > > > > > > well. I usually just ignore the window that pops > > > > > > > > > > > > uptotell > > > > > > > > > me about > > > > > > > > > > > > newer xmp files, unless the ones that I'm about > > > > > > > > > > > > toworkon > > > > > > > > > are listed, > > > > > > > > > > > > then I select those and let it update > > > > > > > > > > > > thedatabase.However, there have been some > > > > > > > > > > > > situationswhere myprevious > > > > > > > > > work has > > > > > > > > > > > > been wiped out when opening a folder on > > > > > > > > > > > > anothermachine. > &g
Re: [darktable-user] Keeping DT in sync between multiple computers
* Patrick Shanahan [04-07-19 16:42]: > * Benjamin Daines [04-07-19 13:56]: > > Don't get hung up on the example file names I used in the email. The > > issue that I'm having is with the database "disabled" darktable does > > not recognize additional versions of images that are created (via > > clicking duplicate in darktable, which creates a second xmp file for > > the image). What's worse is when you open the folder in darktable > > after closing it, not only is the version you've created gone, but if > > you create the second version again DT immediately overwrites the > > second xmp file. > > Hopefully that makes more sense. > > On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 11:50 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Benjamin Daines [04-07-19 11:04]: > > > > Importing the folder doesn't recognize versions either > > > > unfortunately. On Sat, 2019-04-06 at 13:54 -0400, Patrick Shanahan > > > > wrote: > > > > > * Benjamin Daines [04-06-19 12:51]: > > > > > > The issue I'm running into now, with database=:memory: is that > > > > > > ifI'veduplicated an image so that I've got two xmp files for > > > > > > the sameimage(say IMG1.xmp and IMG1_01.xmp), when I close the > > > > > > folder andopen itagain, DT only reads the initial image, not > > > > > > the secondversion. If Ithen create a new version, DT > > > > > > immediately overwritesIMG1_01.xmp, sounless I've copied all my > > > > > > xmp files to asubdirectory, that work islost. It would be best > > > > > > to have darktableautomatically create these versionswhen seeing > > > > > > IMG_01.xmp.Hopefully that makes sense. On Tue, 2019-04-02 at > > > > > > 07:20 +0300, JuhaLintula wrote: > > > > > > > Hi!I also use darktable only for image processing and have > > > > > > > thesamesetting as Robert; database=:memory: This setting > > > > > > > willalwaysautomatically read the .xmp files as you are > > > > > > > alwaysstarting with afresh database.-JuhaOn Tue, 2 Apr 2019 > > > > > > > at 05:20, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > > > * I. Ivanov [04-01-19 20:03]: > > > > > > > > > On 2019-04-01 16:34, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > * Benjamin Daines [04-01- > > > > > > > > > > 19 > > > > > > > > 18:46]: > > > > > > > > > > > In my workflow I find myself using multiple machines > > > > > > > > > > > towork > > > > > > > > on the > > > > > > > > > > > same images. My configuration right now on both > > > > > > > > > > > machinesis > > > > > > > > to have DT > > > > > > > > > > > look for updated xmp files on start up and that seems > > > > > > > > > > > towork > > > > > > > > pretty > > > > > > > > > > > well. I usually just ignore the window that pops up > > > > > > > > > > > totell > > > > > > > > me about > > > > > > > > > > > newer xmp files, unless the ones that I'm about to > > > > > > > > > > > workon > > > > > > > > are listed, > > > > > > > > > > > then I select those and let it update the > > > > > > > > > > > database.However, there have been some situations > > > > > > > > > > > where myprevious > > > > > > > > work has > > > > > > > > > > > been wiped out when opening a folder on another > > > > > > > > > > > machine. > > > > > > > > Because of > > > > > > > > > > > this, I now habitually copy all my xmp files to > > > > > > > > > > > asubfolder > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > working on them in order to keep a back up, just > > > > > > > > > > > incase. > > > > > > > > Occasionally > > > > > > > > > > > I need to manually load these sidecar files.Would an > > > > &
Re: [darktable-user] Keeping DT in sync between multiple computers
* Juha Lintula [04-07-19 15:06]: > Hi! > > Yes, I've noticed the same thing. It would be nice, that when you import a > folder, darktable would recognize also the additional xmp files. > > -Juha > > On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 20:52, Benjamin Daines > wrote: > > > Don't get hung up on the example file names I used in the email. The issue > > that I'm having is with the database "disabled" darktable does not > > recognize additional versions of images that are created (via clicking > > duplicate in darktable, which creates a second xmp file for the image). > > What's worse is when you open the folder in darktable after closing it, not > > only is the version you've created gone, but if you create the second > > version again DT immediately overwrites the second xmp file. > > > > Hopefully that makes more sense. > > > > On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 11:50 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * Benjamin Daines < > > > > ben@digitalsand.photography > > > > > [04-07-19 11:04]: > > > > Importing the folder doesn't recognize versions either unfortunately. > > > > On Sat, 2019-04-06 at 13:54 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * Benjamin Daines < > > > > ben@digitalsand.photography > > > > > [04-06-19 12:51]: > > > > The issue I'm running into now, with database=:memory: is that if > > > > I'veduplicated an image so that I've got two xmp files for the same > > > > image(say IMG1.xmp and IMG1_01.xmp), when I close the folder and > > > > open itagain, DT only reads the initial image, not the second > > > > version. If Ithen create a new version, DT immediately overwrites > > > > IMG1_01.xmp, sounless I've copied all my xmp files to a > > > > subdirectory, that work islost. It would be best to have darktable > > > > automatically create these versionswhen seeing IMG_01.xmp. > > > > Hopefully that makes sense. On Tue, 2019-04-02 at 07:20 +0300, Juha > > > > Lintula wrote: > > > > Hi!I also use darktable only for image processing and have the > > > > samesetting as Robert; database=:memory: This setting will > > > > alwaysautomatically read the .xmp files as you are always > > > > starting with afresh database. > > > > -Juha > > > > On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 05:20, Patrick Shanahan < > > > > p...@opensuse.org > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > * I. Ivanov < > > > > iv3...@gmail.com > > > > > [04-01-19 20:03]: > > > > On 2019-04-01 16:34, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > * Benjamin Daines < > > > > ben@digitalsand.photography > > > > > [04-01-19 > > > > 18:46]: > > > > In my workflow I find myself using multiple machines to > > > > work > > > > on the > > > > same images. My configuration right now on both machines > > > > is > > > > to have DT > > > > look for updated xmp files on start up and that seems to > > > > work > > > > pretty > > > > well. I usually just ignore the window that pops up to > > > > tell > > > > me about > > > > newer xmp files, unless the ones that I'm about to work > > > > on > > > > are listed, > > > > then I select those and let it update the database. > > > > However, there have been some situations where my > > > > previous > > > > work has > > > > been wiped out when opening a folder on another machine. > > > > Because of > > > > this, I now habitually copy all my xmp files to a > > > > subfolder > > > > after > > > > working on them in order to keep a back up, just in > > > > case. > > > > Occasionally > > > > I need to manually load these sidecar files. > > > > Would an option to disable darktable's database and use > > > > just > > > > the xmp > > > > files be a feasible option? How about using something > > > > like > > > > syncthing > > > > (Linux platform here) to keep the database synced between > > > > multiple > > > > machines? Would doing that cause any foreseeable issues? > > > > How are other people dealing with using multiple machines > > > > to > > > > work onprojects, any tips? > > > > when I
Re: [darktable-user] Keeping DT in sync between multiple computers
* Benjamin Daines [04-07-19 13:56]: > Don't get hung up on the example file names I used in the email. The > issue that I'm having is with the database "disabled" darktable does > not recognize additional versions of images that are created (via > clicking duplicate in darktable, which creates a second xmp file for > the image). What's worse is when you open the folder in darktable > after closing it, not only is the version you've created gone, but if > you create the second version again DT immediately overwrites the > second xmp file. > Hopefully that makes more sense. > On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 11:50 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Benjamin Daines [04-07-19 11:04]: > > > Importing the folder doesn't recognize versions either > > > unfortunately. On Sat, 2019-04-06 at 13:54 -0400, Patrick Shanahan > > > wrote: > > > > * Benjamin Daines [04-06-19 12:51]: > > > > > The issue I'm running into now, with database=:memory: is that > > > > > ifI'veduplicated an image so that I've got two xmp files for > > > > > the sameimage(say IMG1.xmp and IMG1_01.xmp), when I close the > > > > > folder andopen itagain, DT only reads the initial image, not > > > > > the secondversion. If Ithen create a new version, DT > > > > > immediately overwritesIMG1_01.xmp, sounless I've copied all my > > > > > xmp files to asubdirectory, that work islost. It would be best > > > > > to have darktableautomatically create these versionswhen seeing > > > > > IMG_01.xmp.Hopefully that makes sense. On Tue, 2019-04-02 at > > > > > 07:20 +0300, JuhaLintula wrote: > > > > > > Hi!I also use darktable only for image processing and have > > > > > > thesamesetting as Robert; database=:memory: This setting > > > > > > willalwaysautomatically read the .xmp files as you are > > > > > > alwaysstarting with afresh database.-JuhaOn Tue, 2 Apr 2019 > > > > > > at 05:20, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > > * I. Ivanov [04-01-19 20:03]: > > > > > > > > On 2019-04-01 16:34, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > > > > * Benjamin Daines [04-01- > > > > > > > > > 19 > > > > > > > 18:46]: > > > > > > > > > > In my workflow I find myself using multiple machines > > > > > > > > > > towork > > > > > > > on the > > > > > > > > > > same images. My configuration right now on both > > > > > > > > > > machinesis > > > > > > > to have DT > > > > > > > > > > look for updated xmp files on start up and that seems > > > > > > > > > > towork > > > > > > > pretty > > > > > > > > > > well. I usually just ignore the window that pops up > > > > > > > > > > totell > > > > > > > me about > > > > > > > > > > newer xmp files, unless the ones that I'm about to > > > > > > > > > > workon > > > > > > > are listed, > > > > > > > > > > then I select those and let it update the > > > > > > > > > > database.However, there have been some situations > > > > > > > > > > where myprevious > > > > > > > work has > > > > > > > > > > been wiped out when opening a folder on another > > > > > > > > > > machine. > > > > > > > Because of > > > > > > > > > > this, I now habitually copy all my xmp files to > > > > > > > > > > asubfolder > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > working on them in order to keep a back up, just > > > > > > > > > > incase. > > > > > > > Occasionally > > > > > > > > > > I need to manually load these sidecar files.Would an > > > > > > > > > > option to disable darktable's database and usejust > > > > > > > the xmp > > > > > > > > > > files be a feasible option? How about using > > > > > > > > > > somethinglike > > > > > > > syncthing > > > >
Re: [darktable-user] Keeping DT in sync between multiple computers
* Benjamin Daines [04-07-19 11:04]: > Importing the folder doesn't recognize versions either unfortunately. > On Sat, 2019-04-06 at 13:54 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Benjamin Daines [04-06-19 12:51]: > > > The issue I'm running into now, with database=:memory: is that if > > > I'veduplicated an image so that I've got two xmp files for the same > > > image(say IMG1.xmp and IMG1_01.xmp), when I close the folder and > > > open itagain, DT only reads the initial image, not the second > > > version. If Ithen create a new version, DT immediately overwrites > > > IMG1_01.xmp, sounless I've copied all my xmp files to a > > > subdirectory, that work islost. It would be best to have darktable > > > automatically create these versionswhen seeing IMG_01.xmp. > > > Hopefully that makes sense. On Tue, 2019-04-02 at 07:20 +0300, Juha > > > Lintula wrote: > > > > Hi!I also use darktable only for image processing and have the > > > > samesetting as Robert; database=:memory: This setting will > > > > alwaysautomatically read the .xmp files as you are always > > > > starting with afresh database. > > > > -Juha > > > > On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 05:20, Patrick Shanahan > > > > wrote: > > > > > * I. Ivanov [04-01-19 20:03]: > > > > > > On 2019-04-01 16:34, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > > * Benjamin Daines [04-01-19 > > > > > 18:46]: > > > > > > > > In my workflow I find myself using multiple machines to > > > > > > > > work > > > > > on the > > > > > > > > same images. My configuration right now on both machines > > > > > > > > is > > > > > to have DT > > > > > > > > look for updated xmp files on start up and that seems to > > > > > > > > work > > > > > pretty > > > > > > > > well. I usually just ignore the window that pops up to > > > > > > > > tell > > > > > me about > > > > > > > > newer xmp files, unless the ones that I'm about to work > > > > > > > > on > > > > > are listed, > > > > > > > > then I select those and let it update the database. > > > > > > > > However, there have been some situations where my > > > > > > > > previous > > > > > work has > > > > > > > > been wiped out when opening a folder on another machine. > > > > > Because of > > > > > > > > this, I now habitually copy all my xmp files to a > > > > > > > > subfolder > > > > > after > > > > > > > > working on them in order to keep a back up, just in > > > > > > > > case. > > > > > Occasionally > > > > > > > > I need to manually load these sidecar files. > > > > > > > > Would an option to disable darktable's database and use > > > > > > > > just > > > > > the xmp > > > > > > > > files be a feasible option? How about using something > > > > > > > > like > > > > > syncthing > > > > > > > > (Linux platform here) to keep the database synced between > > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > machines? Would doing that cause any foreseeable issues? > > > > > > > > How are other people dealing with using multiple machines > > > > > > > > to > > > > > work onprojects, any tips? > > > > > > > when I use any machine beside my main workstation to edit > > > > > photos, I issue > > > > > > > darktable as: > > > > > > >darktable --library :memory: > > > > > > >import the photos to be edited > > > > > > >finish the edits > > > > > > >close dt > > > > > > > and back at my workstation, re-import the edited photos > > > > > > > with > > > > > their > > > > > > > accompanying xmp files. > > > > > > > have not encountered any problems with this work plan. > > > > > > In theory... if you have 2 identical machines (for example > > > > > > linux) > > > >
Re: [darktable-user] Keeping DT in sync between multiple computers
* Benjamin Daines [04-06-19 12:51]: > The issue I'm running into now, with database=:memory: is that if I've > duplicated an image so that I've got two xmp files for the same image > (say IMG1.xmp and IMG1_01.xmp), when I close the folder and open it > again, DT only reads the initial image, not the second version. If I > then create a new version, DT immediately overwrites IMG1_01.xmp, so > unless I've copied all my xmp files to a subdirectory, that work is > lost. > It would be best to have darktable automatically create these versions > when seeing IMG_01.xmp. > Hopefully that makes sense. > On Tue, 2019-04-02 at 07:20 +0300, Juha Lintula wrote: > > Hi! > > I also use darktable only for image processing and have the same > > setting as Robert; database=:memory: This setting will always > > automatically read the .xmp files as you are always starting with a > > fresh database. > > > > -Juha > > > > On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 05:20, Patrick Shanahan > > wrote: > > > * I. Ivanov [04-01-19 20:03]: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2019-04-01 16:34, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > > > * Benjamin Daines [04-01-19 > > > 18:46]: > > > > > > > > > In my workflow I find myself using multiple machines to work > > > on the > > > > > > > > > same images. My configuration right now on both machines is > > > to have DT > > > > > > > > > look for updated xmp files on start up and that seems to work > > > pretty > > > > > > > > > well. I usually just ignore the window that pops up to tell > > > me about > > > > > > > > > newer xmp files, unless the ones that I'm about to work on > > > are listed, > > > > > > > > > then I select those and let it update the database. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, there have been some situations where my previous > > > work has > > > > > > > > > been wiped out when opening a folder on another machine. > > > Because of > > > > > > > > > this, I now habitually copy all my xmp files to a subfolder > > > after > > > > > > > > > working on them in order to keep a back up, just in case. > > > Occasionally > > > > > > > > > I need to manually load these sidecar files. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would an option to disable darktable's database and use just > > > the xmp > > > > > > > > > files be a feasible option? How about using something like > > > syncthing > > > > > > > > > (Linux platform here) to keep the database synced between > > > multiple > > > > > > > > > machines? Would doing that cause any foreseeable issues? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How are other people dealing with using multiple machines to > > > work onprojects, any tips? > > > > > > > > when I use any machine beside my main workstation to edit > > > photos, I issue > > > > > > > > darktable as: > > > > > > > >darktable --library :memory: > > > > > > > >import the photos to be edited > > > > > > > >finish the edits > > > > > > > >close dt > > > > > > > > and back at my workstation, re-import the edited photos with > > > their > > > > > > > > accompanying xmp files. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have not encountered any problems with this work plan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In theory... if you have 2 identical machines (for example linux) > > > > > > > shared network location for DT files > > > > > > > shared network location for the DB, configuration files and cache > > > > > > > same mounting point for the 2 machines > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you could use DT on one or the other (one at a time) and the > > > changes should > > > > > > > be on the 2 machines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BUT... I haven't tested the scenario please back up if you want > > > to try it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand - what Patrick is pointing to is based on > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > IF, IF, IF you NEVER run dt at the same time on different machines, > > > one > > > > > > could share the db placing it on networked storage. BUT NEVER RUN > > > DT ON > > > > > > TWO MACHINES AT THE SAME TIME. > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. try instead, to import the image instead of just reading the xmp file. I have not seen that happen to me and I do have duplicate images with different crops. it appears your dup images are not being created with the same filenames reflected by your oddly number xmp files. but ... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Keeping DT in sync between multiple computers
* I. Ivanov [04-01-19 20:03]: > > On 2019-04-01 16:34, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Benjamin Daines [04-01-19 18:46]: > > > In my workflow I find myself using multiple machines to work on the > > > same images. My configuration right now on both machines is to have DT > > > look for updated xmp files on start up and that seems to work pretty > > > well. I usually just ignore the window that pops up to tell me about > > > newer xmp files, unless the ones that I'm about to work on are listed, > > > then I select those and let it update the database. > > > > > > However, there have been some situations where my previous work has > > > been wiped out when opening a folder on another machine. Because of > > > this, I now habitually copy all my xmp files to a subfolder after > > > working on them in order to keep a back up, just in case. Occasionally > > > I need to manually load these sidecar files. > > > > > > Would an option to disable darktable's database and use just the xmp > > > files be a feasible option? How about using something like syncthing > > > (Linux platform here) to keep the database synced between multiple > > > machines? Would doing that cause any foreseeable issues? > > > > > > How are other people dealing with using multiple machines to work > > > onprojects, any tips? > > when I use any machine beside my main workstation to edit photos, I issue > > darktable as: > >darktable --library :memory: > >import the photos to be edited > >finish the edits > >close dt > > and back at my workstation, re-import the edited photos with their > > accompanying xmp files. > > > > have not encountered any problems with this work plan. > > > In theory... if you have 2 identical machines (for example linux) > shared network location for DT files > shared network location for the DB, configuration files and cache > same mounting point for the 2 machines > > you could use DT on one or the other (one at a time) and the changes should > be on the 2 machines. > > BUT... I haven't tested the scenario please back up if you want to try it. > > On the other hand - what Patrick is pointing to is based on experience. IF, IF, IF you NEVER run dt at the same time on different machines, one could share the db placing it on networked storage. BUT NEVER RUN DT ON TWO MACHINES AT THE SAME TIME. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Keeping DT in sync between multiple computers
* Benjamin Daines [04-01-19 18:46]: > In my workflow I find myself using multiple machines to work on the > same images. My configuration right now on both machines is to have DT > look for updated xmp files on start up and that seems to work pretty > well. I usually just ignore the window that pops up to tell me about > newer xmp files, unless the ones that I'm about to work on are listed, > then I select those and let it update the database. > > However, there have been some situations where my previous work has > been wiped out when opening a folder on another machine. Because of > this, I now habitually copy all my xmp files to a subfolder after > working on them in order to keep a back up, just in case. Occasionally > I need to manually load these sidecar files. > > Would an option to disable darktable's database and use just the xmp > files be a feasible option? How about using something like syncthing > (Linux platform here) to keep the database synced between multiple > machines? Would doing that cause any foreseeable issues? > > How are other people dealing with using multiple machines to work onprojects, > any tips? when I use any machine beside my main workstation to edit photos, I issue darktable as: darktable --library :memory: import the photos to be edited finish the edits close dt and back at my workstation, re-import the edited photos with their accompanying xmp files. have not encountered any problems with this work plan. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Weird black openingscreen DT with digital score
* Archie Macintosh [04-01-19 14:20]: > On 1 Apr 2019, at 16:41, Pascal Obry wrote: > >... As a photographer I don't way this to be run > > without me asking for it. > > A number of users who had not seen this 'joke' before were very concerned > that dt's installation files had been compromised malevolently. > > We have always been tolerant of Stallman's rather juvenile sense of humour in > view of his autism. But surely developers should not still tolerate silly > adolescent pranks in free software that they hope will be used by the general > public. perhaps you can find a better way to express your appreciation of the quality and cost of using darktable. does it's logo meet your approval? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] How to update the information of the lighttable
* Bernhard Rulla [03-31-19 16:15]: > Hello, > unfortunately I lost the best answer to my post, which I am sending once > again. > I would expect that when I open a folder in DT, all present photos are > shown in the current status (I feel a bit weird writing this, it seems so > natural to me...). > When I close DT, delete a picture from this folder, open DT and open this > folder again, the fphoto should not be visible anymore. Photos added in the > meantime should be visible. For me, this is common software behaviour. > Somehow, DT database is different, right? What am I actually opening, when > "opening a folder"? There is the current opened folder, and something from > the history, right? > > In the user manual, I read something in chapter 2.2.1 about "film rolls". > There we find: > "...images already present in the film roll are not touched. It is > important to note that importing images in darktable does not involve a > physical copy step. Importing a folder into darktable is therefore not a > backup operation of that folder." > For me that means, that new pictures are added to the film roll, deleted > pictures (in the corresponding Windows folder) are not removed > automatically from the film roll. I would appreciate that function. The > film roll should represent what is in the folder. Or I would like to know > how I can actively manage the contents of the film roll. > > In the answer, which I unfortunately deleted from my inbox and cannot > retrieve anymore, I read something about "remove (not delete!) from the > folder". I do not understand what this means: which folder, in which > environment? Do I remove within DT? Or in the Windows explorer? > > Best regards, > Bernhard from Germany > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > Virenfrei. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > <#m_666938261269421962_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > Am Fr., 8. Feb. 2019 um 19:28 Uhr schrieb David Vincent-Jones < > david...@gmail.com>: > > > Information is fully updated when you close darktable > > On 2019-02-08 6:09 a.m., Bernhard Rulla wrote: > > > > Hello, > > when I am working in parallel with darktable (lighttable) and my Windows > > Explorer, I sometimes notice that the information (files shown) in the > > lighttable does not match with the files available in the Windows Explorer. > > In other words: when I delete a file and insert new ones, I do not get the > > files aligned/updated in the lighttable. > > Can you give me a hint? :) > > Best regards, > > Bernhard > > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > > Virenfrei. > > www.avast.com > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org you apparently *only* deleted the photo file and not the db entry within darktable. dt does not rescan directories to see if file have been moved or deleted or renamed. use darktable to delete the file rather than some other app. this way dt removes the file from it's database and the cache. to correct your current situation, tell/use dt to remove the image. ps: I didn't trim your quotes as you don't feel it necessary. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] Re: [darktable-dev] do not use dt 2.7
* Patrick Shanahan [03-29-19 19:36]: > * Pascal Obry [03-29-19 19:11]: > > > > Please see: > > > > https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/2310 > > > > Wait for a solution to be proposed for this. > > I do not see this with git829.9c9ed7e64-1090 on openSUSE Tumbleweed > 20190327 > or I have failed to set the conditions which result in this. disregard, sorry. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] Re: [darktable-dev] do not use dt 2.7
* Pascal Obry [03-29-19 19:11]: > > Please see: > > https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/2310 > > Wait for a solution to be proposed for this. I do not see this with git829.9c9ed7e64-1090 on openSUSE Tumbleweed 20190327 or I have failed to set the conditions which result in this. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Is it possible to change the path for the 'disk backend for thumbnail cache' ?
* Harald [03-18-19 07:34]: > Hi, > > yes and no. > > Yes - pointing darktable on startup to a new chachedir is working but > resulting in an empty thumbnails cache. > > I can move the old ones ... > > No - because starting darktable-generate-cache then creates all the > thumbnails from scratch in the old and not the new directory. > > Fixed this with the core option for darktable-generate-cache. > > To summarize, it seems that the change in the path for the cache > directory is not persistent > > I have to point to that directory on each start of darktable itself or > of darktable-generate-chache. > > Haribo M > > Am 3/18/2019 um 10:53 AM schrieb Jim Robinson: > > Hi, > > > > This is possible from the command line. See: > > > > https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/overview_chapter.html#darktable_commandline_parameters > > > > Jim > > > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 09:27, Harald > <mailto:mj...@email.de>> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I am using darktable 2.6.1 + windows 10 > > > > and I recently figured out that my 'disk backend for thumbnail cache' > > has been frequently deleted (due to its path and by windows cleaners). > > > > Assuming that the disk backend speeds up the usage of lighttable view, > > is it possible to change the path for the 'disk backend for thumbnail > > cache' and move it away from this temporary internet files path? > > > > Thanks for any idea and your help, Best Regards > > Haribo M > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > <mailto:darktable-user%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org it is possible, just make a link to darktable with the new cache directory and use that to start dt. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Tethering issues
* Anton Aylward [03-17-19 19:28]: > On 2019-03-17 11:05 a.m., Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > In this case I believe "tethering" refers to controlling the camera using > > the computer screen/controls rather than "just" to transfer images. > > Ah, thank you Patrick. > So 'tethering-for-control-in-real-time' as opposed to 'tethering-for-upload'. > > Yes, I've done that, "in the field". But my PC is a desktop Dell tower > connected via switch to my router and a few other networked devices like the > printer. It is not the kind of thing I could carry about in the field unless > I > wanted to lug a Honda generator as well. I suppose if this were a lab and the > camera was attached to a microscope or an oscilloscope it would be different. you take it to far. normally a laptop or a cell phone or tablet would be utilized. > HOWEVER > The idea of a larger screen than the 3" on on the back of the camera appeals. > And yes, I've done that 'in the field'. My phone is only 5.5" but that still > larger. I had an android application that did that. I like the swing-out > screen on the Canon more than the swing-down screen on the Sony. This was > better. I also have a 12" Android tablet and that was glorious as a > viewscreen! > > But the workflow was awful! > There's no practical way to hold the camera and the tablet, not enough arms. > One or the other or, eventually, both, had to be on tripods. (As it happens I > have a third tripod for the flash.) If you can make you workflow happen > around > that, more likely in the studio, then fine. I'm not a studio photographer; > I'm > out on the street, trails, ravines and the like, so this was just an > experiment > for me. I don't recall the program, but I'm sure you can search the > PlayStore. > I tried three that worked well enough for what they were. maybe why a tripod or table clamp would be used. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Tethering issues with the Nikon D850
* Willy Williams [03-17-19 12:50]: > I do hope that one day I'll be able to tether my Lumix G9 to darktable, > either on Windows or Ubuntu Linux. The good news is that in the meantime, I > can use the Lumix Tether app, but I'm not that impressed by it. > > Willy Williams > > * > > On 3/17/2019 at 12:31, darkta...@911networks.com wrote: > > DT 2.6.1 on Manjaro > > > > I have the same problem but me it's my Fuji. First image is captured > > and then everything freezes. > > > > Removing the SD card is a bad option, because I want to see the image > > large so I can keep on working to make it look right and removing the > > sd card every couple of photos is not a viable option. > > > > With DT 2.4 serie, it used to work. Not with 2.6.0 and not with 2.6.1 > > > > Is the problem with DT or with libgphoto? > > > > sknahT > > > > vyS > > > > On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 12:11:42 +0100 > > Kneops wrote: > > > > > I noticed that the images are captured and saved on disk, it's just > > > that DT freezes and I have to quit and restart, but then again I can > > > only capture one image until it freezes again. Oh well, for now I > > > will be using the cameras live view to scan and copy images to > > > memory card. > > > > > > > > > > > > Op 17-03-19 om 11:27 schreef Pascal Obry: > > > > Le dimanche 17 mars 2019 à 11:22 +0100, Kneops a écrit : > > > > > Any ideas about this? > > > > No, last time I tested tethering with my D850 it worked just fine. > > > > Zero issue I was even impressed by this as I had mixed experience > > > > with previous camera and dt version. > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > ________ > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org unless you take the time to report what you see, likelihood of someone else taking time to craft a fix is minimal, https://redmine.darktable.org/projects/darktable/issues -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Tethering issues with the Nikon D850
* darkta...@911networks.com [03-17-19 12:40]: > DT 2.6.1 on Manjaro > > I have the same problem but me it's my Fuji. First image is captured > and then everything freezes. > > Removing the SD card is a bad option, because I want to see the image > large so I can keep on working to make it look right and removing the > sd card every couple of photos is not a viable option. > > With DT 2.4 serie, it used to work. Not with 2.6.0 and not with 2.6.1 > > Is the problem with DT or with libgphoto? > > sknahT > > vyS > > On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 12:11:42 +0100 > Kneops wrote: > > >I noticed that the images are captured and saved on disk, it's just > >that DT freezes and I have to quit and restart, but then again I can > >only capture one image until it freezes again. Oh well, for now I > >will be using the cameras live view to scan and copy images to > >memory card. > > > > > > > >Op 17-03-19 om 11:27 schreef Pascal Obry: > >> Le dimanche 17 mars 2019 à 11:22 +0100, Kneops a écrit : > >>> Any ideas about this? > >> No, last time I tested tethering with my D850 it worked just fine. > >> Zero issue I was even impressed by this as I had mixed experience > >> with previous camera and dt version. > >> > > > > > >darktable user mailing list > >to unsubscribe send a mail to > >darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > -- > sknahT > > vyS > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org so you have decided that there is a problem. to get that problem fixed, someone will need to file a bug report including observed problems and their environment (camera, dt ver, operating system, ... ) in case you didn't know, the addr is: https://redmine.darktable.org/projects/darktable/issues be explicit, you are the ONLY one who sees what you see. others may see similar but ... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Tethering issues
* Anton Aylward [03-17-19 10:55]: > My experiences with tethering using Linux openSuse, and with my Sony and my > Canon and my Fuji, and not just with DT but with other applications left me > unsatisfied. > > I find it is slow and drains the batter something awful! > > I've completely given up on tethering. > Now I just pop the card into the PC's reader and use my browser to move the > files. The card looks like another disk and the transfer rate is a lot faster > than the serial like of USB cables. I get none of the problems mentioned in > this thread. > > I can imagine "out in the field", lacking spacer cards after a days intensive > shooting and having filled what I have, and having no PC and laptop, laving to > 'tether' to a portable hard drive to 'unload' the camera. But that is a > completely different use case and doesn't involve DT. > > I strongly advise transferring from the card rather than tethering. > The worst case is that you will need a card reader to plug into the USB port > on > your PC. You can get on on eBay for under a dollar, less than the cost a USB > cable; Sometimes they come free with SD cards :-) > > I'm a proponent of K.I.S.S. If tethering doesn't work for you, if the > work-flow > is too awkward, the go with something that does work, that eases the > work-flow. In this case I believe "tethering" refers to controlling the camera using the computer screen/controls rather than "just" to transfer images. fwiw: I have successfully "tethered" 4 different nikon bodies at one time or another but that scenario does not fit my present workflow. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] lua script "Enable Generate Image Txt" question
* Sheridan Price [03-14-19 22:55]: > Hello; > > I find the idea of having a mouse over text file show up over a photo a > great idea as I can use it to remind myself of things yet to do to the > image. BUT...though it seems to set up the LUA options in the darktable > preferences I can't figure out how to make it actually create a text file > and input my text string into it. Has anyone used this script? Can you help? you don't say but if you are on windows this may be incorrect: darktable preferences (the wheel above the images display on lighttable) lua create txt sidecars (3rd option on my display) but I don't believe it works as you think. above will generate *.txt files matching your images displaying exif data and filename, but I see no way to display it over an image. but... darktable preferences gui options miscellaneous (last group) overlay txt slidecar over ... (4th from last) will display the filename and some of the exif (shot) data on mouse-over image in lighttable and filmstrip in darkroom. but afaik, not editable. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Turning Filmic on an off in 2.6.1 sometimes darkens the image
* Kneops [01-01-70 12:34]: > Now I think it has to do with the combination Filmic and Exposure. > > I modified Exposure, than turned on Filmic preset EV 10, then went back to > the Exposure module. Changing the Exposure + or - makes the images suddenly > jump to a much darker state. Use the mouse wheel and try it. > > I can't believe this is normal. but perhaps it is? That means Filmic could > only be used at the end of editing? > > It happens with Nikon and Fuji raw images. > > > > > > Op 14-03-19 om 16:18 schreef Remco Viëtor: > > On jeudi 14 mars 2019 15:42:01 CET Kneops wrote: > > > I just updated DT to 2.6.1, tried one of the Filmic presets, turning it > > > on an off and on etc. > > > > > > Doing this, the images become too dark suddenly (bottom half of the > > > screenshot), then the next time I turn it on it's normal again (top half > > > of the image) etc. I can do this multiple times and it will keep on > > > changing from normal to too dark and back to normal. Just by turning the > > > module on.off.on.off.on etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > Depending on the parameters of the filmic module, that can be perfectly > > normal: > > e.g. a strong preference for the shadows will brighten those considerably, > > same when you lower the halfway luminosity, or play with the black point > > slider. > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org and you have filed a bug report at: https://redmine.darktable.org/projects/darktable/issues this is not the proper forum to expect bug resolution. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Turning Filmic on an off in 2.6.1 sometimes darkens the image
* Kneops [03-14-19 10:44]: > I just updated DT to 2.6.1, tried one of the Filmic presets, turning it on > an off and on etc. > > Doing this, the images become too dark suddenly (bottom half of the > screenshot), then the next time I turn it on it's normal again (top half of > the image) etc. I can do this multiple times and it will keep on changing > from normal to too dark and back to normal. Just by turning the module > on.off.on.off.on etc. that is not abnormal action. you need to adjust filmic to fit your particular image. you expect magic? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] I'm getting lines on my ARW files after a few months after download
* Michael [03-14-19 07:10]: > but it wasn't corrupted until a couple of months ago. Could it have > something to do with my hd dying? > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 11:50 PM Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Michael [03-13-19 22:56]: > > > here is something weird: I took a picture five months ago > > > (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1swUCEq1DFnRIDxYY6t1Q3Ms47-7uU4XI) > > > uploaded it to my computer, edited it then upload the edit to youpic > > (that > > > is how I know when I edited it) > > > https://youpic.com/image/14082480/boss-by-michaelhavensphotography. then > > > about 1-2 months ago it errored. (really they all started getting lines > > and > > > stripes at the same time 1-2 months ago) > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:13 AM Michael wrote: > > > > > > > Linux Mint 19.1 > > > > dt 2.6.1 > > > > Sony a7r2 > > > > a lot trimmed ... > > > > ok, google links displays 2 photos, one corrupted. downloaded PIC00341.ARW > > and it is corrupted. the raw is corrupted. > > > > -- > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > > Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > ____ > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org that was our first assumption and several people made the same judgement. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] I'm getting lines on my ARW files after a few months after download
* Michael [03-13-19 22:56]: > here is something weird: I took a picture five months ago > (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1swUCEq1DFnRIDxYY6t1Q3Ms47-7uU4XI) > uploaded it to my computer, edited it then upload the edit to youpic (that > is how I know when I edited it) > https://youpic.com/image/14082480/boss-by-michaelhavensphotography. then > about 1-2 months ago it errored. (really they all started getting lines and > stripes at the same time 1-2 months ago) > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:13 AM Michael wrote: > > > Linux Mint 19.1 > > dt 2.6.1 > > Sony a7r2 a lot trimmed ... ok, google links displays 2 photos, one corrupted. downloaded PIC00341.ARW and it is corrupted. the raw is corrupted. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Untouched selection invert
* Régis Levert [03-13-19 16:18]: > Hello all, > Is there a way to select raws already touched by the user? > I tried "untouched" and then invert but no selection is activated. > I would like to select raw files I have already worked on. > Thank you. > Ubuntu 18.04 > Darktable 2.6.1 hummm, works fine here, openSUSE Tumbleweed 20190310 darktable 2.7.0 git668.01550400f-995.1 select untouched current collection 0 invert selection selected 46 -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] I'm getting lines on my ARW files after a few months after download
* Michael [03-12-19 20:02]: > lines appear after I reimport it. > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 7:49 PM Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Michael [03-12-19 18:39]: > > > of the five files I opened with qwenview four were beautiful after > > opening > > > and one said it was an unknown format > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 8:59 AM Patrick Shanahan > > wrote: > > > > > > > * Michael [03-12-19 08:34]: > > > > > what is going. Most of the pictures I took last year with the sony > > have > > > > > become weird. I have lines through the some of the ARW files and > > stripes > > > > > through the JPGs. They were fine when I first downloaded them. Here > > are > > > > > some examples: > > > > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Cifjq7ahMiEgMWoaq2jGkV8z80WsuboT > > > > > > > > looks like the files on your drive are corrupted. can you try to > > access > > > > the arw files with a different app such as gwenview or feh or eog? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA > > @ptilopteri > > > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Member > > facebook/ptilopteri > > > > Registered Linux User #207535@ > > http://linuxcounter.net > > > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet > > freenode > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > > > > then, rename or move the xmp files for the affected images and remove them > > from dt. import them as new files and see what results. be sure you have > > both moved/renamed the xmp files and removed the images from dt first. > > > > -- > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > > Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org what platform, what version dt, what camera? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] I'm getting lines on my ARW files after a few months after download
* Michael [03-12-19 18:39]: > of the five files I opened with qwenview four were beautiful after opening > and one said it was an unknown format > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 8:59 AM Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > * Michael [03-12-19 08:34]: > > > what is going. Most of the pictures I took last year with the sony have > > > become weird. I have lines through the some of the ARW files and stripes > > > through the JPGs. They were fine when I first downloaded them. Here are > > > some examples: > > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Cifjq7ahMiEgMWoaq2jGkV8z80WsuboT > > > > looks like the files on your drive are corrupted. can you try to access > > the arw files with a different app such as gwenview or feh or eog? > > > > -- > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > > Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: then, rename or move the xmp files for the affected images and remove them from dt. import them as new files and see what results. be sure you have both moved/renamed the xmp files and removed the images from dt first. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] I'm getting lines on my ARW files after a few months after download
* Michael [03-12-19 08:34]: > what is going. Most of the pictures I took last year with the sony have > become weird. I have lines through the some of the ARW files and stripes > through the JPGs. They were fine when I first downloaded them. Here are > some examples: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Cifjq7ahMiEgMWoaq2jGkV8z80WsuboT looks like the files on your drive are corrupted. can you try to access the arw files with a different app such as gwenview or feh or eog? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable 2.6 on Windows, performance issues with large database
* Patrick Shanahan [03-12-19 08:02]: > * Pascal Obry [03-12-19 04:30]: > > Hello Ed, > > > > Can you give more information about which index has helped? Or both? > > > > I'd like to fix that for everyone, so I need more information. Thanks. > > jftr: my db holds ~127000 images and isn't particularly slow and I work on > a >10 year old i9 12-core. disregard, I am NOT on windows. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable 2.6 on Windows, performance issues with large database
* Pascal Obry [03-12-19 04:30]: > Hello Ed, > > Can you give more information about which index has helped? Or both? > > I'd like to fix that for everyone, so I need more information. Thanks. jftr: my db holds ~127000 images and isn't particularly slow and I work on a >10 year old i9 12-core. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Modify paths inside the DB
* Jean-Luc CECCOLI [03-11-19 14:45]: > > Message du 11/03/19 04:20 > > De : "HaJo Schatz" > > A : "Jean-Luc CECCOLI" > > Copie à : > > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Modify paths inside the DB > > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 1:10 AM Jean-Luc CECCOLI wrote: > > > > Er... you mean, that you typed "$Year" into the field, in the import menu > > options, and it automatically retrieves the correct value from the exifs at > > import each time a photo gets imported ? > > So, if you import a photo you took in 2015, it will automatically write > > "2015" into the correct metadata field ? > > If so, the request I filed 2 years ago ought have been closed : > > https://www.darktable.org/redmine/issues/11445#change-35440 > > >> Not in front of my box right now, so there's certainly some small errors > >> in it, but -- have you ever considered something like > >> $ exiftool -d %Y -copyright="(c) $dateTimeOriginal Jean-Luc" > >> /path/to/your/photos > >> which should set the correct year in all your photos. Darktable should be > >> able to pick this up, I assume. > > Well, my client decided to eat my previous reply... so let's starting over > again. :-( > > I think you misunderstood : I don't want to write anything into my raw files, > which might end up in further probllems. > I'd like DT to read the date the raws were taken at, and write it into the > metadata field. Which DT is not able ATM. > However, reading Patrick's reply, I realized that the value being already > into the sidecars, removing the pictures from the DB and reimorting them > ought to do the job. > Or, maybe, just movinf the db elsewhere to keep it safe, then reimport the > pictures. > Test on a few old pictures first, and see what happens. or: copy/backup you library.db move the photos open library.db in sqlitebrowser select browse data sort on folder select the lines for the moved photos in the edit database cell area on the right, insert new location save library.db test for validity if it didn't work, replace library.db with backup, reimport moved photos using sqlitebrowser will be much quicker, if it works. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Modify paths inside the DB
* Jean-Luc CECCOLI [03-10-19 13:12]: > > Message du 09/03/19 00:23 > > De : "Patrick Shanahan" > > > A : "Darktable Users List" > > Copie à : > > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Modify paths inside the DB > > > > * Jean-Luc CECCOLI [03-08-19 18:09]: > > > Hello, > >> .../... > > > > > But, then, I would have to manually process the photos year by year, > > > since I apply a preset that writes the year the photo was taken at > > > import. I manually update it each year. > > > > I guess I fail to understand this, "writes the year ..." if you refer to > > writing the year as a tag, dt get the tag from the xmp file. > > I have to set "2019, Jean-Luc C." in the "Author" field of the import menu, > so every photo I import gets tagged accordingly. > And I have to modify this field each year. It would be easier if, for > instance, I could replace the year value with $(Exif_Year), or some other > exif value. I have mine set in my cameras metadata. dt imports it and it shows in the accompanying xmp file. > > > Of course, if it was possible to use variables within the metadata > > > fields, so one could write, for instance "Copyright $Year_Taken", and the > > > field would be filled with the appropriate value, things would be far > > > easier. Unfortunately, my request still remains at the same point. > > > > all my files contain copyright $year and the moved files maintained that. > > Er... you mean, that you typed "$Year" into the field, in the import menu > options, and it automatically retrieves the correct value from the exifs at > import each time a photo gets imported ? > So, if you import a photo you took in 2015, it will automatically write > "2015" into the correct metadata field ? > If so, the request I filed 2 years ago ought have been closed : > https://www.darktable.org/redmine/issues/11445#change-35440 no. dt reads it from the camera metadata > > > So, the second way would be to replace the paths directly within the DB > > > which - I confess - I can't do. > > > >From sqlitebrowser, I could open the DB and find where the paths appear, > > > >but I couldn't find anything looking like a find & replace tool. > > > Maybe someone there could give me some hint ? I can use sqlitebrowser on library.db and sort browse data film_rolls field, select all using , paste in "edit database cell" and they are all changed. that is the closest to a "find & replace" as I see. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Modify paths inside the DB
* Guillermo Rozas [03-08-19 18:44]: > If the folder structure is the same, you should be able to point DT to > the new files location using the collect module: > (WARNING: backup DB just in case) > - filter by folder > - if a folder is missing, it will be striked out > - right-click on each of those folders and tell DT where it is located now > - it works for whole folder hierarchies, so doing this for the topmost > folder should be enough > This will save the new locations on the DB, avoiding any problem > involved in removing/re-importing. sounds much simpler and a lot quicker than the drudging I subjected my system to when moving a large collection. tks -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Modify paths inside the DB
* Jean-Luc CECCOLI [03-08-19 18:09]: > Hello, > I recently moved the contents of my small HDs to one bigger. Well, not really > moved, just copied so far. > As a side effect, none of my photos can be retrived, since the name of the > current HD is different from those of the previous ones. > The safest way to deal with this would be to clear the DB, then re-import the > whole contents. yes, I just completed the same operation or similar. I moved a large collection of images, > 40,000 to a larger hard-drive by selected subj images in dt removed images from dt physically moved images [re]imported images into dt dt re-read the xmp files and all appears to work as expected/wanted. > But, then, I would have to manually process the photos year by year, since I > apply a preset that writes the year the photo was taken at import. I manually > update it each year. I guess I fail to understand this, "writes the year ..." if you refer to writing the year as a tag, dt get the tag from the xmp file. > Of course, if it was possible to use variables within the metadata fields, so > one could write, for instance "Copyright $Year_Taken", and the field would be > filled with the appropriate value, things would be far easier. Unfortunately, > my request still remains at the same point. all my files contain copyright $year and the moved files maintained that. > So, the second way would be to replace the paths directly within the DB which > - I confess - I can't do. > >From sqlitebrowser, I could open the DB and find where the paths appear, but > >I couldn't find anything looking like a find & replace tool. > Maybe someone there could give me some hint ? warning, the process took me several days. part of the extensive time was having jpg files in part of the collection, requiring I import also jpg files and then remove the unwanted. and I did not sit and watch. removal of the unwanted jpgs was minor as I knew exactly where they were. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Fedora lensfun-update
* Leander Hutton [03-04-19 22:05]: > > > Does anyone else on here use Fedora with Darktable and lensfun from > their repository? The utility for updating the lensfun profiles > (lensfun-update or lensfun-update-db) do not seem to be included with > their package. Can I just manually grab the profiles and stick them in > the ~/.local/shrae/lensfun directory? perhaps they are included in another package. on openSUSE they are in lensfun-toots rpm -ql lensfun-tools /usr/bin/g-lensfun-update-data /usr/bin/lensfun-add-adapter /usr/bin/lensfun-update-data /usr/share/man/man1/g-lensfun-update-data.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/lensfun-add-adapter.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/lensfun-update-data.1.gz -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Re: Retouch problem
* David Vincent-Jones [03-03-19 15:40]: > Hi Bruce I have been watching your video for the last 2 days and > following every step this is driving me nuts!! > > Cheers > > David > > On 2019-03-03 12:34 p.m., Bruce Williams wrote: > > David, > > Did you watch my video in this? I think it might clear up some > > misunderstanding for you hopefully! :) > > Cheers, > > Bruce Williams > > -- > > Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 > > > > audio2u.com <http://audio2u.com> > > brucewilliamsphotography.com <http://brucewilliamsphotography.com> > > shuttersincpodcast.com <http://shuttersincpodcast.com> > > sinelanguagepodcast.com <http://sinelanguagepodcast.com> > > > > e-mail <mailto:stu...@audio2u.com> | Twitter > > <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn > > <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook > > <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud > > <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora > > <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> > > -- > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:22 AM William Ferguson > <mailto:wpfergu...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 2:55 PM David Vincent-Jones > > mailto:david...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Maybe a better explanation of the problem that I am seeing: > > > > With the wavelet scale displayed the area is correctly changed ... > > > > > > but when the normal image is displayed then the removal fails ... > > > > and when I finally go back to the main layer there is no > > change at all. > > > > Any ideas out there? > > > > > > On 2019-03-02 5:21 p.m., David Vincent-Jones wrote: > > > > > > I am having a problem with retouch If I use heal on the > > > master layer using any of the tools it works correctly (the > > > blemish is removed) but when I do exactly the same heal > > > on any layer the blemish remains. The problem remains whether > > > I am using the display of the wavelet scale or not. Am I > > > missing something or is there a problem on this version? > > > > > > darktable 2.7.0+563~gbebc6c03e ... Manjaro from Arch/Repos. > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > <mailto:darktable-user%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> > > > > > > The wavelet scales are high frequency detail separated in > > frequency bands and the white level is the residual low frequency > > data. So, when you edit the gray (high frequency) levels you > > remove edge detail and when you edit the white (residual) you > > remove the color information. To see what I mean, make several > > wavelet scales, then select just the white and make it the only > > scale visible. Remove the item using the heal tool. Allow the > > other scales to display and observe that the edge detail is still > > there along with a little color. > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > <mailto:darktable-user%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org please post your large files to a file sharing service rather than continually reposting them to the list. every one on the list is not interested and some are even on measured and/or very slow service getting files they may not want. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Backing up dt settings
* Bruce Williams [02-03-19 05:51]: > Hey guys, > I'm in the process of rebuilding my pc, which is a dual boot system > (windows 10, Linux Mint 19). > I'm considering doing a clean install of both operating systems, and was > wondering if someone could point me to what folders/files I would need to > back up and restore if I wanted to keep all my current darktable settings > and configurations? on linux, ~/.config/darktable/* should suffice, but the library will have different locations for your images unless you replicate the file syste. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Mouse wheel to feather masks
* David Vincent-Jones [02-27-19 12:46]: > If the feather is quite small it often takes a lot of scrolling before it > appears to change ... patience may be needed. > > On 2019-02-27 3:57 a.m., Archie Macintosh wrote: > > ... and apropos Pascal's comment, I forgot to say that Shift+scroll > > doesn't work correctly on Mac, except with Apple wireless mouse. > > > > On 27 Feb 2019, at 09:54, Bruce Williams > <mailto:stu...@audio2u.com>> wrote: > > > > > Hey guys, > > > In dt 2.4.x, you could mouse over the solid line portion of a mask, > > > and use your mouse wheel to grow or shrink the mask. > > > And you could also mouse over the DOTTED section (the feather), and > > > then use the mouse wheel to grow or shrink the feathered region. > > > But in dt 2.6.0, I'm not getting that ability to grow or shrink the > > > feather. Is that something to do with the new feathering guide > > > controls, an unintended feature regression, or something else? > > > For the record, I'm on Mint 19.1. > > > Cheers, > > > Bruce Williams > > > -- > > > Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 > > > > > > audio2u.com <http://audio2u.com> > > > brucewilliamsphotography.com <http://brucewilliamsphotography.com> > > > shuttersincpodcast.com <http://shuttersincpodcast.com> > > > sinelanguagepodcast.com <http://sinelanguagepodcast.com> > > > > > > e-mail <mailto:stu...@audio2u.com> | Twitter > > > <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn > > > <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook > > > <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud > > > <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora > > > <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > <mailto:darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> > > > = > > > > ____ > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org perhaps increase the viewing size of the image before changing the feather size. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Lens correction setting
* jys [02-24-19 18:26]: > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019, at 08:47, fht233 wrote: > > > It should only activate the correction if the lens is properly identified. > > I dont know if there would be many 'false posives'. In case that you dont > > want the correction applied for a concrete lens you can disable it for > > those images, or remove the lens profile if posible. Or directly don't > > activate the option "Apply lens correction by default". > > > > In my experience with other software I have it always active and works for > > most of my lenses, except one, what means that it works for 99% of the > > images and saves time, in my case. > > It was just a suggestion, maybe you are right and it is not such a good > > idea. I understand also that DT tries to avoid doing things 'behind de > > scenes' by default. But maybe could be a compromise that works. > > I would suggest that at least enabling by default for fixed-lens cameras > would make sense, since there's no problem with lens ID ambiguity, and many > such cameras really need the correction to produce usable images (having been > designed with the assumption that it will be applied). look under the presets for the module "Lens Correction" -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Lens correction setting
* Frank J. [02-23-19 10:05]: > Am 21.02.19 um 14:09 schrieb fht233: > ... > > This setting could be active by default (in my opinion) or not. I dont > > know if this would have some negative effect in some cases. I think > > that other software and even some cameras do it by default to produce > > the jpg. > > +1 > > I put on "Lens Correction" manually for nearly every single picture. > It would be an improvement to have a global option like > >"Apply lens correction by default" > > - on new pictures while importing > When > - Camera can be detected > - Lens can be detected > - Focus length can be detected. posted to OP: you provide a lot of information about your desires, but sadly very little about your system or dt version. iianm, what you desire is available and has been for some time. there is a preset for the "lens correction" module, "Auto Apply Lens Correction" but you must set the module on perhaps using a style. mine is on but forgive ancient memory I cannot see how. fwiw: openSUSE Tumbleweed darktable git507.3a9b488eb -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Lens correction setting
* fht233 [01-01-70 12:34]: > Hi, first of all I have to say that it is a great software and I like a > lot. > Regarding the topic, from my point of view as a relative new user I think > that the lens correction topic could be a pain and makes the learning curve > a bit more step. In this case would be very helpful to have for example a > setting somewhere: "Apply lens correction by default", (when posible to > apply). > This setting could be active by default (in my opinion) or not. I dont know > if this would have some negative effect in some cases. I think that other > software and even some cameras do it by default to produce the jpg. > The problem for a new user is that at some point you realize that the lens > correction is not applied to any of your photos (at least it was my case). > Then you click on the module and it works fine, great. But the next thing > you expect is that it is active for all photos by default and not having to > do it explicitily every session. > Here you have to start investigating the documentation and googling, then > you have to understand what are the presets, how to program one, etc. It > works with new photos, great. But then you realize that it doesn't work for > the existing photos, reimporting doesnt help. > Some more googling and you understand that it is because those photos > already had a sidecar and then the preset is not applied, good to know. > Well, all together is a pain and I spent a lot of time for something that > seems very basic. > > Maybe it was already discussed or it is not a good idea But I think that a > clear and understable setting would be easier than having to perform all > the investigation and setting up things by yourself when you are not yet > familiar with the software and the terms. Googling and finding 'activate > the setting' would be easier than having to learn to set up the preset by > yourself, IMHO. > It is just an idea trying to help, maybe there are better options or it is > not posible at all. > Thanks! you provide a lot of information about your desires, but sadly very little about your system or dt version. iianm, what you desire is available and has been for some time. there is a preset for the "lens correction" module, "Auto Apply Lens Correction" but you must set the module on perhaps using a style. mine is on but forgive ancient memory I cannot see how. fwiw: openSUSE Tumbleweed darktable git507.3a9b488eb -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Show size cropped picture in DT ?
* Michael Jacobs [02-07-19 17:23]: > In DT 2.6.0 (on Linux Mint), is there a way to display the size (width x > height) of a cropped picture in the image information tab ? (both in > lighttable & darkroom) the width and height in pixels are shown in the image information panel on the left in both light views lighttable and darkroom. ??? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Problems in importing several folders
* Jouni Vartiainen [02-06-19 10:06]: > Hi. I 've used to import several folders at once. The problem that I have > is only the images of the last imported folder shows up in the ligthtable. > I have to manually search the images using collect images module. And to do > that I have to remember the names of the imported folders. I migth have > imported 10 folders and my folders are named by date, so it is very > difficult. Are there any methods to is more easily ? a quick thought, craft a style with an unused "creator" and apply it on import make a group of that import by selecting only images with that creator craft another style removing that creator and applying the proper creator or change your auto applied creator in dt's config, select those images with that creator, make group, change creator to what you prefer or something along those lines. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] shared location multiple computers
* I. Ivanov [01-31-19 22:34]: > > > It doesn't work over network (on different computers) because DT code > > checks for existence of PID: > > https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/blob/master/src/common/database.c > > So I guess currently there's no guard against 2 darktables running on > > different PCs accessing the same database on network share. > > > Thank you, I don't know the code... but my understanding is that DT "can" > run if the database is on a network share and more than one DT can connect > to it simultaneously. > > In my opinion at least 2 possible directions exist > > 1. Preserve multi client (this can be risky if both clients work on the same > images) but at the same time opens a lot of possibilities - people > collaborating together. > > 2. Enforce single client (this is safer) but at the same time limits the > expansion. dt already forces a single client on a single machine using locks on the db's but nfs/cifs/sshfs apparently do not honor those locks. so if you wish to store your db's on remote filesystems, YOU will have to enforce only one instance of dt accessing those db's. > I think each would appeal to some. > > Thank you everybody for sharing thoughts and experience! > > Regards, > > B > > ________ > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] shared location multiple computers
* I. Ivanov [01-30-19 22:52]: > > On 2019-01-30 18:16, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * I. Ivanov [01-30-19 21:09]: > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > I am storing my images on a share drive. I am planning to connect 2 > > > computers to use the same images. I stumbled on > > > https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/66083/darktable-on-multiple-machines > > > > > > and > > > > > > man darktable allows > > > > > > Options: > > > > > > --cachedir > > > --configdir > > > > > > I assume the above can be a network location > > > > > > I am planning to use same DT version but different OS build (Ubuntu 16.04 > > > on > > > one and Ubuntu 18.04 on the other) same mounting structure. Connection to > > > the shared drive is SMB CIFS. > > > > > > My hope is that I can switch back and forth between the 2 machines and it > > > would be seamless. Currently I don't expect both machines to _edit_ images > > > at the _same time_ but each one would edit at one point or another. I hope > > > both machines to view images at the same time. > > > > > > Anybody tried that? If you can please share your experience? > > I utilize nfs/cifs/smb > > I don't see a problem as long as you save your xmp file and configure dt > > to check for changed xmp files on start up. > > If check XMP needed if the DB and cache are located and the shared network > drive and both instances are using the same DB and the same cache? no, but would be imperative to NOT have but one instance of dt in that case. > I am trying to avoid check XMP each time DT starts as it takes quite some > time for my collection. if you NEVER have but one instance of dt running, should not be a problem. if fact, dt *should* insure that it's db cannot be utilized by more than one instance and you would be safe-guarded. I don't know if dt has that check and, if not, perhaps you should issue a feature request via redmon. > > > > what I do is designate one machine as primary and run dt on the secondary > > as: darktable --library :memory: > > and check for changed xmp files on startup on the primary/ > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] shared location multiple computers
* I. Ivanov [01-30-19 21:09]: > Hi Guys, > > I am storing my images on a share drive. I am planning to connect 2 > computers to use the same images. I stumbled on > https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/66083/darktable-on-multiple-machines > > and > > man darktable allows > > Options: > > --cachedir > --configdir > > I assume the above can be a network location > > I am planning to use same DT version but different OS build (Ubuntu 16.04 on > one and Ubuntu 18.04 on the other) same mounting structure. Connection to > the shared drive is SMB CIFS. > > My hope is that I can switch back and forth between the 2 machines and it > would be seamless. Currently I don't expect both machines to _edit_ images > at the _same time_ but each one would edit at one point or another. I hope > both machines to view images at the same time. > > Anybody tried that? If you can please share your experience? I utilize nfs/cifs/smb I don't see a problem as long as you save your xmp file and configure dt to check for changed xmp files on start up. what I do is designate one machine as primary and run dt on the secondary as: darktable --library :memory: and check for changed xmp files on startup on the primary/ -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable and wacom pen tablet
* ternaryd [01-30-19 01:29]: > On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 23:22:30 -0500 > Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > why not: > > > > systemsettings5 -> input devices -> graphic > > tablet > > Thanks, but what is "systemsettings5" ? https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/kde-workspace/systemsettings/using-kapp.html search for "systemsettings5" comes standard on openSUSE -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable and wacom pen tablet
* ternaryd [01-29-19 22:08]: > On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 22:19:30 +0100 > Sébastien Chaurin > wrote: > > > I do have one that I used mostly on PS on a > > windows machine. I’ve now transionned to DT on > > an iMac and might get back to use it soon as > > well. > > In the meanwhile I found out, that my newbie > question was way more specific than expected. > Windows and Mac users already get the software > from wacom, but linux users _not_ using gnome > got it more complicated. There seems to be only > one CLI program (xsetwacom), which requires one > already understand how this works. But at this > level, the question becomes off topic on > darktable. why not: systemsettings5 -> input devices -> graphic tablet available on my openSUSE Tumbleweed Plasma5/KDE5 system -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] How to compare photos side-by-side
* Lorenzo Bolzani [01-25-19 13:54]: > In the lighttable, if you select multiple pictures (ctrl or shift + click) > and place the mouse pointer over one of them you can use Z and the arrows > or the mouse wheel to switch between them. > > In the shortcuts preferences you can assign a key to the "sticky preview" > to toggle the full screen preview. > > If the mouse pointer is on a different image this is included in the set > too. > > No need to label or rearrange the images, just select what you want to > compare. > > > Sadly this does not work with the darkroom, where Z always zoom only the > active image (quite useless in my opinion as it is identical to TAB) and > you cannot quickly zoom on another image for comparison. This my opinion > would be a nice improvement: the Z key in the darkroom should work as in > the lighttable, following the mouse pointer. file a "feature request" in redmon -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org