Re: hacker attack: leaves .BitchX dir in root's home

1998-01-15 Thread Rick Jones
Carlos:

BitchX is an IRC program that put's a directory called .BitchX in the
users home directory.  Either you have this and have used it or your
hacker used it as root.  Of course a hacker may have just created it so
it might look normal in your directory.  What's in the directory?

Carlos Carvalho wrote:
 
 My site has been atacked by a hacker using a method that leaves a
 directory .BitchX (or something close) in root's home dir. It gets the
 user/password combination of any user that telnet, ftp or use pop3 to
 get to the machine (no ssh).
 
 What's the security hole that's being exploited? At first the attacker
 didn't have the root password.
 
 Any help is greatly appreciated. This is urgent...
 
 Carlos
 
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Re: Cnews would not configure on installation

1998-01-15 Thread john
Johann Spies writes:
 Cnews installation script exits with an error message informing the user
 that it could not configure cnews.  I don't know how to proceed from
 there.

I had the same problem.  I used dpkg --force to install and configure cnews
and inews, and then cycled trough dselect until it stopped bitching.  I
also had to edit the news crontab to take out all the inn stuff that inews
put in.  I still get complaints about the fact that compress is missing and
that there are no uucp files.  Email me if you need help with cnews.  I've
been using it on my two user system for years.
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Re: Why /floppy -- why not /mnt/fd or something?

1998-01-15 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Peter Prohaska [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi all!
 
 Please dont flamme me for that unimportant question.  But I was wondering,
 why `/dev/fd*'s are mounted at /floppy.
  When reading fsstnd, you would expect them to be mounted in
 /mnt/someting.  Since /floppy is neither one of those un*x shorties nor
 used during installation I can't see why it lives on the root.

The floppy drive not used during installation?  Depends on how you
install.


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Re: SVGATextMode - thanks for help

1998-01-15 Thread Igor Grobman
 On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 04:48:30PM -0500, Igor Grobman wrote:
  
   - don't use SVGATextMode if X is started
  
  Why? works fine here.
 
 He's right. X Server looks at the Textmode to save and restore it properly,
 but only once at startup-time. It then assumes that the mode keeps the same.
 So it fails to restore it properly if you switched mode in the meantime.
 
 Try: stm 100x37; startx; change back to console; stm 80x25; change to X and
 back to console, you get a skewed screen.

It always worked fine for me here, and it does now, but the manpage does 
mention that X-server indeed only saves textmode once at startup-time.  Maybe 
it only works for some vidcards, or maybe the more likely reason is that I am 
running the latest X-server(3.3.1-2) while bo has 3.3 which is older.



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Re: X-win more effiecient than Win95?

1998-01-15 Thread Rick Jones
Orn E. Hansen wrote:
   No, Windows is not an interface... and it's a lot more than just a GUI, it's
 an operating system as well (as of Win95, WinNT).

The box that you buy when you buy Windoze 95 contains an operating
system which is called Windows 95.  That box contains MSDOS 7.0 and
Windows GUI.  Most ppl refer to the GUI as the whole enchalada, thus a
GUI OS but that is not the case.  MS just packaged the 2 together and
called them Windows 95 OS.

Just examine the startup sequence or go to MS's web site and get the
toys package that has a control panel addition which gives you several
options about the hidden functions, one of wich allows you to boot into
GUI or DOS prompt.

Additionally if it was the OS there wouldn't be an option in the
preferences of a DOS program to hide windows from DOS programs nor the
need to reboot into DOS for other programs.

   And that's right, you need to compare X+Window manager, not just X which was
 the issue.

True.  Because of the way Windoze is programmed.  Otherwise you can
benchmark X without a window manager.  But Windoze won't run without
it's window manager counterpart Explorer since there is no way to run
programs without it.


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Re: Moving to libc6 X

1998-01-15 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Oleg Krivosheev wrote:

 
 Hi, All
 
 what is the best way to move from 
 libc5 based X (3.3-4) to libc6 ?
 
 Is there a particular order of upgrades?
 
 I already have libc6-2.0.6 and related
 stuff from hamm installed.

The xlib6g package in hamm conflicts with xlib6 ( 3.3-5), so the first
thing to do is to upgrade the xlib6 package. Latest version is 3.3.1-2.
Then, install the xlib6 package. After that, upgrade any X packages you
have to their hamm equivalents.

I suppose you could also simply point dselect at the hamm tree (on an ftp
mirror or wherever you get your packages from).

Remco


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Re: Libc5 / Libc6

1998-01-15 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Ian  Gill Watkins wrote:

 I want to upgrade one or two of the packages on my system beyond the
 stable distribution. The newer packages are all requiring libc6, but
 that conflicts (in DSELECT) with libc5 which is a dependence to a _very_
 large number of programs. =:|
 
 What should I do? Forget it and wait? 

If you want to upgrade to libc6, read the mini-HOWTO about the upgrade. It
involves upgrading libc5 to a version that doesn't conflict with libc6, so
your libc5-based programs will still run.

Remco


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Re: Problem dialing in w/AutoPPP/PAP! Help!

1998-01-15 Thread Martin Bialasinski
Rick Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Peter Iannarelli wrote:
  
  In pap-secrets I has to adjust the following line.
  
  *   *
  
 This kind of entry would allow everybody access to your system without a
 password.  So Joe down the street who knows a username but doesn't have
 his own account can use any other account he wants.
 
This is not true.

From the pap-secrets:

# Dont be disturbed therfore by the fact that this file defines logins with
# any password for users. /etc/passwd will catch passwd mismatches.
#
# This file should block ALL users that should not be able to do AUTO_PPP!
# AUTO_PPP bypasses the usual login program so its necessary to list all
# system userids with regular passwords here!
#
# ATTENTION: The definitions here can allow users to login without a
# password if you dont use the login option of pppd!
# The /etc/ppp/options file installed has the login option enabled

# INBOUND connections

# Every regular user can use PPP and has to use passwords from /etc/passwd
*   * 

Ciao,
Martin


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xfig: Freezes when Text button is pushed

1998-01-15 Thread s-canagaratna
I recently installed Debian 1.3.1.

When I use xfig, everything works O.K. till I try to use text by pushing
the Text button and it freezes. Ocassionally,  one or two of the other
buttons also give this problem.

Have anybody else come across this? How do I proceed to debug this?

I am using a 486 PC with 32 meg memory, the swap partion is about 100 M
and the Linux partition also has about 300 MB free. 

I did not have any problem on this machine with xfig with Slackware. In
fact I have another partition running Slackware linux, and I am able to
run xfig on that.

Sebastian Canagaratna
Department of Chemistry
Ohio Northern University
Ada, OH 45810

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hamm screen

1998-01-15 Thread Norbert Veber
I am having a strange problem with the hamm version of screen, it works fine
for root, but when any other user tries to run it, it just 'freezes' as in:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] screen

it just sits there for ever, not error message, nothing.

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Re: Staroffice 3.1 core-dumps.

1998-01-15 Thread Martin Schulze
On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 09:27:28PM +0200, Neilen Marais wrote:
 Hi
 
 I installed Staroffice 3.1 using the debian installer .deb's  All
 seemed to have gone fine, but when I run setup to do the per-user setup
 bit, it coredumps... Also if I run swriter3, or any of the other
 binaries, it also tries to run the setup bit, which core-dumps of
 course, and then complains about the user setup not being done.

This is what Scott Ellis wrote about it:

   The setup script is being confused by your xlib6g (the rest of the
   staroffice stuff works).  A hack to get it to work is to rename
   /usr/XllR6/lib to /usr/X11R6/libx, run the setup util, then rename the
   directory back.

Regards

Joey

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Re: setting up xdm for runlevel 4

1998-01-15 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On 13 Jan 1998, Martin Bialasinski wrote:

 Shaleh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I would like to setup xdm so that it s started upon entering runlevel 4
  and stopped when dropping back down to runlevel 3.  How does debian
  handle xdm??
  
 It is done with symlinks in the /etc/rcrunlevel.d directories.
 
 I recommend the update-rc.d programm for altering the setup.

And to start xdm at all, you need to edit /etc/X11/config and change
'no-start-xdm' to 'start-xdm'. The /etc/init.d/xdm script does a grep -q
^start-xdm /etc/X11/config to see if it has to start xdm.

Remco


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Re: divide the list in beginners and advanced

1998-01-15 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, John Spence wrote:

  I like the list the way it is aswell! :)
 
 Yes, I do to.

AOL mode
me too
/AOL mode

 Although I would dearly love to see a:
 
 When is version 2 coming out-list

When is version 2 coming out will not be announced in advance, I'm
afraid. At one point in time it will have been released and then
everybody will know about it.

 How to move from libc5 to libc6-list

There is a mini-HOWTO on this subject that is posted regularly to this
mailing list. I don't know the URL, but I am sure it can be found on the
WWW somewhere.

 Both lists could be answered by a bot that posted the usual reply.

I don't think it would work, since subscribing and unsubscribing to
mailinglists like that would be too much trouble if you can just lurk
debian-user for a while and get the answer. And you still would have to
post a message to debian-user regularly to let people know they exist.

 I do think that a lot of general Linux questions that aren't particularly
 Debian specific are posted here but that is only because in my opinion, 
 the quality of the answers provided is higher than can be found in
 newsgroups.

Yes, the Debian community is very fortunate to have such high-quality
mailing lists.

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Re: Problem dialing in w/AutoPPP/PAP! Help!

1998-01-15 Thread Jeff Noxon
[PAP not working with ppp 2.3.2]
On Thu, Jan 15, 1998 at 10:34:01AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 I had this problem; PAP just didn't damn well work. For me, the fix was
 to add the following to pap-secrets:
 
 # magic fix
 *   * *
 
 Someone on one of the linux mailing lists suggested it; it seems to be
 otherwise undocumented, although certainly not unimportant.
 
 Shadow passwords may also make a difference. I'm not using them here;
 I think last time I tried them (on ppp 2.2) I couldn't login with PAP
 any more either.

This magic fix doesn't work on 2.3.2; I tried it before and I tried it
again.

Thanks,

Jeff


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Re: Problem dialing in w/AutoPPP/PAP! Help!

1998-01-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 07:46:41PM -0600, Jeff Noxon wrote:
 [PAP not working with ppp 2.3.2]
 On Thu, Jan 15, 1998 at 10:34:01AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
  I had this problem; PAP just didn't damn well work. For me, the fix was
  to add the following to pap-secrets:
  
  # magic fix
  *   * *

 This magic fix doesn't work on 2.3.2; I tried it before and I tried it
 again.

Package: ppp
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: net
Installed-Size: 311
Maintainer: Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 2.3.2-1
Depends: libc6, netbase


Works fine here.

Using shadow passwords? I'm not, last time I tried it (ppp 2.2.0f)
I couldn't login with PAP if shadow passwords were enabled.


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Re: X-win more effiecient than Win95?

1998-01-15 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Rick Jones wrote:

 Orn E. Hansen wrote:
No, Windows is not an interface... and it's a lot more than just a GUI, 
  it's
  an operating system as well (as of Win95, WinNT).
 
   The box that you buy when you buy Windoze 95 contains an operating
 system which is called Windows 95.  That box contains MSDOS 7.0 and
 Windows GUI.  Most ppl refer to the GUI as the whole enchalada, thus a
 GUI OS but that is not the case.  MS just packaged the 2 together and
 called them Windows 95 OS.

Indeed.

   Just examine the startup sequence or go to MS's web site and get the
 toys package that has a control panel addition which gives you several
 options about the hidden functions, one of wich allows you to boot into
 GUI or DOS prompt.

Yes, and the functions are not really hidden, they're just not documented. 
But heck, what _is_ documented in Win95? The trouble shooting help
doesn't get you far beyond is the printer switched on? and check that
the cable is plugged in.

   Additionally if it was the OS there wouldn't be an option in the
 preferences of a DOS program to hide windows from DOS programs nor the
 need to reboot into DOS for other programs.

And those are the options you don't have on aa WinNT system. WinNT is an
OS.

And that's right, you need to compare X+Window manager, not just X which 
  was
  the issue.
 
 True.  Because of the way Windoze is programmed.  Otherwise you can
 benchmark X without a window manager.  But Windoze won't run without
 it's window manager counterpart Explorer since there is no way to run
 programs without it.

Well, I have seen Win95 boxes where the explorer took very long to start
up, probably due to network problems. I noticed that, before the explorer
is started, Ctrl-Esc works like in Win3.x and gives you the task manager
which lets you run any program (including exporer, which can be very
convenient if you're having problems).

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Re: Problem dialing in w/AutoPPP/PAP! Help!

1998-01-15 Thread Peter Gervai
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

  [PAP not working with ppp 2.3.2]
   # magic fix
   *   * *
 
  This magic fix doesn't work on 2.3.2; I tried it before and I tried it
  again.
 
 Package: ppp
 Status: install ok installed
 Priority: optional
 Section: net
 Installed-Size: 311
 Maintainer: Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Version: 2.3.2-1
 Depends: libc6, netbase
 
 Works fine here.
 
 Using shadow passwords? I'm not, last time I tried it (ppp 2.2.0f)
 I couldn't login with PAP if shadow passwords were enabled.

I have shadow pw (of course :-)) and 2.2.0f works right now (since I
downgraded immediately), but 2.3.2 won't work with or without any magic
fix. I won't switch back to plain passwords, though.

In fact the * *  * causes a 'Conversation error', and a * *  simply an
'Authentication failed'...

cya
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RE: Why /floppy -- why not /mnt/fd or something?

1998-01-15 Thread Ted Harding
On 14-Jan-98 Peter Prohaska wrote:
 
 Hi all!
 
 Please dont flamme me for that unimportant question.  But I was wondering,
 why `/dev/fd*'s are mounted at /floppy.
  When reading fsstnd, you would expect them to be mounted in
 /mnt/someting.  Since /floppy is neither one of those un*x shorties nor
 used during installation I can't see why it lives on the root.
 
 just interrested,
   peter.

It's whatever suits your taste. I have directories /A: /C: and /D: for mounting
msdos floppy  partitions on: helps the DOSsers to feels at home! (and yes, the
colon is part of the name). Put entries in /etc/fstab, a floppy in the drive,
and people can learn to mount /A: very easily.

Cheers,
Ted.


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Re: divide the list in beginners and advanced

1998-01-15 Thread Rick Jones
Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
 
 On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, John Spence wrote:
 
   I like the list the way it is aswell! :)
 

Sometimes I do and sometimes not.

I'm sure it is possible to parse the subject line at the list server or
the client end for keywords like config or compile etc. and forward
them to either an advanced list/mailbox or basic list/mailbox.  Ask that
users put the appropriate keyword in the subject and return a message
with keywords if there isn't a recognisable keyword in the subject.

Then ppl could subscribe to one or both lists and only the appropriate
messages will go to the specific list, or as close as possible.

I have been on this list for 2 years or so now and noticed that this
subject comes up like once a month.  The answer that most other
long-time list subscribers seem to give is that the more experienced
users would drop the basic list and leave a bunch of newbies answering
eachothers questions.  I don't think so.

Some of the guru's enjoy helping others.  The ones that don't are most
likely not subscribed to this list anyway.  Some don't consider
themselves that experienced and will remain subscribed to basic out of
modesty, even though they are more than experienced enough to help the
beginners.

So, I think the best way to split the list (if it happens) is to have a
single address to send to with 2 (or more basic/interm/advanced etc.)
outgoing lists from the list server after parsing the subject line. 
There would be no more email than there is now since the server would
parse the email and newbies could subscribe to all the lists if they
want to get the scoop on more advanced topics.

Additionally, MAYBE! the server could watch for the same subject from
the same user x times and upgrade the message to the next evel since it
doesn't seem to be answered in the current level.  This is probably too
much trouble to accomplish acurately for anybody to want to fool with,
but it's a thought.

  Yes, I do to.
  I do think that a lot of general Linux questions that aren't particularly
  Debian specific are posted here but that is only because in my opinion,
  the quality of the answers provided is higher than can be found in
  newsgroups.
 
 Yes, the Debian community is very fortunate to have such high-quality
 mailing lists.

I agree 100%.  I've been on the internet for about 4 years, I guess, and
I think this is absolutely the best bunch of folks on the internet. 
There's some cock-fighting, posturing, bitching and flaming from some of
us at times, but this list is still the best there is.

Have a good one.


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NTFS driver as modul

1998-01-15 Thread Ian Watkins
AB  MM BTW I've got the same problem, when I've changed kernel...
AB  MM Even I don't tour on:
AB  MM Set version information on all symbols for modules
AB 
AB  Weird. Is this a bug perchance?

AB It's not the ideal fix, but the 2.1.x kernels have much better NTFS
AB - even (experimental) write. Try 2.1.78 if you want (or possibly 2.1
AB although there seem to be a few compile problems).

I'm having enough fun with the upgrade to the Unstable distribution, 
that I think I'll give the development kernels a miss!

Thanks for the info about NTFS in the next release I'll look forward to 
that.

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divide the list in beginn

1998-01-15 Thread Ian Watkins
IT Shouln't it be possible to divide the list in beginners and advanced

Problem is that you couldn't stop mis-posting, so you'd end up with 
people posting twice, once in the newbies group and once in the 
experienced group just in case nobody in the newbies group knows the 
answer, so you'd end up with more mail than ever g

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Re: Problem dialing in w/AutoPPP/PAP! Help!

1998-01-15 Thread Jeff Noxon
I can verify that turning off shadow passwords fixes the PAP problem.
This is unacceptable.  And it's already reported in bug 16044.  Oh well. 

On Thu, Jan 15, 1998 at 03:10:26AM +0100, Peter Gervai wrote:
 On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 
   [PAP not working with ppp 2.3.2]
# magic fix
*   * *
  
   This magic fix doesn't work on 2.3.2; I tried it before and I tried it
   again.
  
  Package: ppp
  Status: install ok installed
  Priority: optional
  Section: net
  Installed-Size: 311
  Maintainer: Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Version: 2.3.2-1
  Depends: libc6, netbase
  
  Works fine here.
  
  Using shadow passwords? I'm not, last time I tried it (ppp 2.2.0f)
  I couldn't login with PAP if shadow passwords were enabled.
 
 I have shadow pw (of course :-)) and 2.2.0f works right now (since I
 downgraded immediately), but 2.3.2 won't work with or without any magic
 fix. I won't switch back to plain passwords, though.
 
 In fact the * *  * causes a 'Conversation error', and a * *  simply an
 'Authentication failed'...
 
 cya
 peter


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ncpfs - slist nprint OK no ncpmount

1998-01-15 Thread Robinson, Andrew
Hi - wondering if anyone can help me out

I have managed to get the ipx working and can slist and nprint.
When I try to ncpmount I get  mount failed. 

logged in as root, file server is 3.12, mounting to mount point /nw,
directory /nw exists.


Regards

Andrew Robinson

Linux newbie


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Re: Upgrade script, bo to hamm

1998-01-15 Thread IBMackey


On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Robert D. Hilliard wrote:

  The obvious question (please don't take offense) is: Did you
 start ppp before entering dselect?  dselect, or rather dpkg-ftp, will
 attempt to make an ftp connection, but assumes that a ppp connection
 is up.  It does not check, AFAIK, to see if there is such a connection.
 
 Bob 
 
 On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, IBMackey wrote:
 
  Problem - dselect refuses to connect by ftp to sites. To be more precise,
 
  Connecting to ftp.us.debian.org ...
  FTP ERROR
 
 
Quick answer is yes, I started ppp.

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Re: Upgrade script, bo to hamm

1998-01-15 Thread IBMackey


On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Craig Sanders wrote:

 
 i've cc-ed my reply to debian-user as you're more likely to get an answer
 from there.  i don't use the ftp install method at all. 
 
 On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, IBMackey wrote:
 
  Tried your script. Being the newbie chicken that I am, I entered the
  commands on the command line to make sure of spelling and etc. Everything
  worked great.
  
  Problem - dselect refuses to connect by ftp to sites. To be more precise,
  
  Connecting to ftp.us.debian.org ...
  FTP ERROR
  
  query/setup script returned error exit status 1.
  Press RETURN to continue.
  
  I've checked access to the site by Netscape, Pine, and Lynx. No problems.
  I use dists/unstable/main dists/unstable/non-free dists/unstable/contrib
  for the list of distributions to get.
  
  Any ideas??
 
 try reinstalling the dpkg-ftp package is the only thing i can think of.  
 
 are you behind a firewall of any kind?  check your configuration of dpkg-ftp
 too...
 
 BTW, which version of the upgrade script did you run?  
 
 craig
 
 --
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Craig, I tried reinstalling, the dpkg -iBE just skips it saying all is
well. I'm not behind a firewall. I used v0.5 of your script. I'm intrigued
by your suggestion to configure the dpkg-ftp. What kind of configuration
does it need ???

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magicfilter, gs, deskjets

1998-01-15 Thread Jess Stryker
I apologize if this is slightly off topic.  I can't
seem to find an answer elsewhere, having tried the
more appropriate newsgroups.

When printing color on my HP 692C the color pictures
are much to dark.  The Printing HOWTO suggests appending
a file, gamma.ps, right before the file name in the
gs command.  I've created this file as follows:


%!
{0.3 exp} {0.3 exp} {0.3 exp} {0.3 exp} setcolortransfer


I've tried running this from the command line and
inserting gamma.ps at the end of the gs command line
in the magic filter configuration file, all with no
noticable results.

I've tried changing the values to various numbers but
whatever I do I see no change in print darkness.  Does
anyone know how to lighten the print when using magicfilter?

I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, but after two full
days of tinkering I still haven't discovered what!  If
someone out there has succesfully lightened their print
in this situation I would love to know what did the trick.

I'm using the current /hamm versions of gs and magicfilter.

Any hints, pointers, etc would be most appreciated!
Thanks in advance.

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Re: Upgrade script, bo to hamm

1998-01-15 Thread Adam Klein
On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 09:39:24PM -0600, IBMackey wrote:
 
 
 On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Robert D. Hilliard wrote:
 
   The obvious question (please don't take offense) is: Did you
  start ppp before entering dselect?  dselect, or rather dpkg-ftp, will
  attempt to make an ftp connection, but assumes that a ppp connection
  is up.  It does not check, AFAIK, to see if there is such a connection.
  
  Bob 
  
  On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, IBMackey wrote:
  
   Problem - dselect refuses to connect by ftp to sites. To be more precise,
  
   Connecting to ftp.us.debian.org ...
   FTP ERROR
  
  
 Quick answer is yes, I started ppp.

I too have been having trouble connecting to ftp.us.debian.org.
When I try to ftp there, I get the following:

Connected to santanni.cc.gatech.edu.
220 santanni.cc.gatech.edu FTP server (Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-15](1) Tue 
Oct 7 12:46:13 EDT 1997) ready.
331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
230-

and then it hangs.  Nothing happens.  Is the FTP server down?

Adam Klein


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Re: Upgrade script, bo to hamm

1998-01-15 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Adam Klein wrote:

[ snip! ]
: 
: I too have been having trouble connecting to ftp.us.debian.org.
: When I try to ftp there, I get the following:
: 
: Connected to santanni.cc.gatech.edu.
: 220 santanni.cc.gatech.edu FTP server (Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-15](1) 
Tue Oct 7 12:46:13 EDT 1997) ready.
: 331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
: 
230-
: 
: and then it hangs.  Nothing happens.  Is the FTP server down?
: 
: Adam Klein

I dunno about whether they're up or down, but I do know gatech sees some
heavy traffic now and again (well, to be fair, that specific server
does)

I've set up an ftp mirror at brahe.midco.net ... feel free to try it
out. It may be quite fast or not so fast depending where you are at.

Is the mirror list still being maintained?  I've submitted to the
address in README.mirrors twice about this mirror with no response.
I've also sent email about one of the existant entries in that file
being invalid.

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Re: Lilo howto install it?

1998-01-15 Thread Sten Anderson
Ivan Rojas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Well the thing is I tryed creating a small partition in the first HD (
 50Mb ) to install LILO in there. I select the LILO package in dselect
 but seems that is not being installed. I created a lilo.conf file and
 didn't work either.

All you need to do is to run the program /sbin/lilo. This will write
the bootloader to the bootsector as specified in /etc/lilo.conf. Every 
time you edit lilo.conf or move the kernel on the disk you need to
rerun this program.

The reason this is not done at the time the lilo package is installed is 
that it is slightly dangerous. If the lilo.conf file is wrong the
result could be an unbootable system. Therefore check the lilo.conf
carefully before running /sbin/lilo. Also have a bootdisk ready just
in case. cat _your-kernel_  /dev/fd0 makes a primitive bootdisk (the 
Debian rescue disk is also usable). You could also write the
bootloader to the bootsector of a floppy in order to test your boot
configuration (use boot=/dev/fd0 in lilo.conf).

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upgrading libpng for ghostscript

1998-01-15 Thread G. Crimp
I've seen a fair bit of discussion on this list of problems moving between
libc5 and libc6 and problems with programs that rely on them.

I'm wondering if I can expect similar problems if I upgrade to ghostscript
5.10.  This requires, amongst other libraries, libpng v.0.96.  The version
available on my Debian CD is version 0.89c.  I guess ghostscript will run
just fine.  But will this break other apps that are currently using the
lesser version number ?

TIA,

Gerald Crimp


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Re: lilo with multiple kernels/partitions

1998-01-15 Thread Sten Anderson
Tim Ferrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 what kind of entry do I need to add to lilo.conf to get lilo to boot
 a alternate kernel located on a Zip disk? I can use a custom boot floppy
 and mount the Zip disk (/dev/sda1) as root but it would be simpler if
 I didn't need the floppy... one less disk to misplace ;-) 

If your BIOS is able to acces the zip drive, you should be able to
treat it as any other drive. Mount the zip drive and insert: 

image=path/vmlinuz.alt  the new alternative kernel
  label=alternative
  root=/dev/sdc7  your root partition   
  read-only

in lilo.conf 

- Sten Anderson


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Printer name

1998-01-15 Thread iquest
Hi,

  I've purchased a Laser printer and I'd like to know how do I
  know the name of the print that connect to my Debian box.  I
  am able to print files without any problem.  I just like to know
  how printer name was created (if any).

  Thanks!


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SEUL's choice of sendmail

1998-01-15 Thread Sen Nagata
at some point around Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:56:25 -0500 (EST)
William T Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] mentioned:

 We will be using Sendmail (which is the only one we can distribute easily)
 and probably procmail for mail deliver.  This is what red hat uses and we
 won't change it unless we need to.

is there some place i could find the discussion about the choice being 
sendmail?  in particular, i am wondering what the problems are w/ 
distributing qmail.  i am not aware of any difficulties, and i would love to
know what those difficulties might be.  in fact, i'd love to know what kinds
of difficulties are encountered w/ other choices -- such as smail.

it seems to me that these difficulties must be pretty significant if 
sendmail is what was finally decided upon [1], and since i am ignorant of 
these difficulties, i would very much like to know :-)

-sen

[1] sorry, couldn't resist as having to upgrade sendmail so frequently 
because of buffer-overflow-related security holes has been a real pain -- 
forgive me for the remark, i really want to know why sendmail is what you can
distribute easily.


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Re: [Q] ~/.xinitrc is not being read

1998-01-15 Thread Sten Anderson
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 03:05:04PM -0500, Vladislav Papayan x285 wrote:
  I use now xdm to login into the system -- however
  it seems like my ~/.xinitrc is being ignored.
 
 .xinitrc is used for startx, and .xsession is used for xdm logins.
 I symlink them together here for convenience.

I believe that the .xsession script must also be executable. The first
line in the script should be #! /bin/sh, then do chmod +x .xsession 
(or do this to .xinitrc if you use the symlink method)

- Sten Anderson
 


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Re: Why /floppy -- why not /mnt/fd or something?

1998-01-15 Thread Sten Anderson
Peter Prohaska [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi all!
 
 Please dont flamme me for that unimportant question.  But I was wondering,
 why `/dev/fd*'s are mounted at /floppy.
  When reading fsstnd, you would expect them to be mounted in
 /mnt/someting.  Since /floppy is neither one of those un*x shorties nor
 used during installation I can't see why it lives on the root.

As you probably know it is not mandatory to use that mount point - you 
can mount a floppy wherever you like. I think it is a matter of
convenience and tradition. /floppy is also used on many other unix
installations.  

- Sten Anderson


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Re: debian 1.2x ldso upgrades

1998-01-15 Thread Sten Anderson
John S. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Having problems upgrading libc5, xlib6 and ldso
 
 using dpkg I get;
 
 **
 Setting up ldso (1.8.12-1) ...
 ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so (No such file or
 directory), skipping
 ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so (No such file or
 directory), skipping
 ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so (No such file or
 directory), skipping
 
 **
 
 I feel like I am in a loop here, as the package map says that the above
 libraries are in xlib6, which is asking for ldso

This is not an error (at least not a serious one). 
I think ldso is installed just fine (check with dpkg -s ldso). After
installation the program ldconfig is run, and this program gives you
the warnings. This is a very common warning. It usually means that you 
have symlinks in /usr/X11R6/lib to libraries that are not
present. These symlinks should of course have been removed when the
libs were removed, in any case you can ignore the warning (unless of
course that you depend on these libs, but you don't).

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Re: SEUL: Re: SEUL distribution?

1998-01-15 Thread Erik Walthinsen
 Pity ... this looks like it would have been a good candidate for the POSIX
 package manager as is used with Unifix Linux.
There are plans being worked on that would use Debian as the base 
distribution, with a POSIX package manager.  The decision to use RedHat and 
RPM was made before these plans existed.

BTW, thanx for the pointer to the distribution, could you send me the URL too?

 As for the comment about Debian being rushed to be first out the door
 with something, I must take exception here.  Red Hat pushed a broken
 distro out the door with 5.0 but Debian has taken its time and seems to
 be trying to get a fairly polished product out. 
I know that RedHat rushed quite a bit to get Hurricane out, and it shows in 
the speed at which the Errata list has grown.  I will have to now take a 
closer look at the Debian distribution's efforts relative to glibc and 
stability.

TTYL,
Omega

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Re: Debian Pgp question...

1998-01-15 Thread Adam Heath
| On Tuesday, 13 January 98, at 12:14:19 PM
| Smorrill wrote about Debian  Pgp question...
 I have used Pgp for quite awhile with Win95, and thus have already made
 my secret key  id number, etc.  I would like to get pgp set up with
 Linux as I would like to move to using Debian exclusively.  Anybody out
 there familiar with this issue of how I would use my same 1028 bit key
 (created under Dos, MIT pgp...2.6.2) without having to revoke the
 existing key a create a new one?

Mount the drive that contains your pgp directory in windows.  In your home
directory, link .pgp to the win95 pgp directory.  On my machine, ln -s
/dr_c/pgp ~/.pgp

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Re: hamm screen

1998-01-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 08:23:23PM +, Norbert Veber wrote:
 I am having a strange problem with the hamm version of screen, it works fine
 for root, but when any other user tries to run it, it just 'freezes' as in:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] screen
 
 it just sits there for ever, not error message, nothing.

Permissions correct on /tmp? (drwxrwxrwxt). screen creates
some sockets in /tmp I believe. I'm using 3.7.4-3 here
and it seems to be fine.


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Re: Lilo howto install it?

1998-01-15 Thread tko
Ivan Rojas writes:
 
 Sorry for get back to the same question, I bet that millions of times
 you have solved this answer but this is the first time I ask it :o)
 
 I got Debian 1.3 in CDs and installed in my second hard drive, guess
 what is in the first one... anybody said windoze95?
 
 Well the thing is I tryed creating a small partition in the first HD (
 50Mb ) to install LILO in there. I select the LILO package in dselect
 but seems that is not being installed. I created a lilo.conf file and
 didn't work either.
 
 Am I missing something? read the man and FAQ's but no so much about it.
 

LOADLIN.EXE and a kernel image on the root of Win95

Is the second small partition beyond cylinder 1024 of the first hard drive?

Try   man lilo.conf

and treat Win95 as a DOS bootup! Did you read /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/LILO.gz ?

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Re: Why /floppy -- why not /mnt/fd or something?

1998-01-15 Thread Erik Walthinsen
  why `/dev/fd*'s are mounted at /floppy.

 I think it is a matter of convenience and tradition. 

Personally, I use /fd0, /fd1, etc.  The RedHat method (/mnt/floppy) seems 
less than useful to me.  The reason for this is that I always use /mnt for 
what it's designed for: temporary mounts.

Putting subdirectories underneath /mnt for *standard* mount points seems 
ridiculous.  If someone who doesn't know better needs to mount a temporary 
device on a system, they mount it on /mnt.  This has the effect of completely 
hiding any devices (i.e. the floppy, CD, zip, etc.) from the filesystem.

This is broken enough that the first thing I do when installing RedHat is to 
change the fstab and create the appropriate directories.

TTYL,
Omega

P.S. I use RedHat on all my systems, I admit.  I will be installing Debian in 
the near future (as soon as I can get another machine running *with* monitor).

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SEUL packaging, etc.

1998-01-15 Thread Erik Walthinsen
 Ok, so what does this have to do with Debian then?
The decision to use RedHat was made before we were aware of certain 
initiatives.  The current plan is to base SEUL on Debian, hopefully aiding in 
the generation of a Debian-based Linux core, which would be standardized, 
allowing packagers to compile their apps *once*, rather than 4 or 5 times for 
the existing distributions.  The core would be versioned as a whole, allowing 
for simple dependency checking against it, and no need to test a package 
against innumerable distribution/version combinations.  This has the effect 
of much reducing possible vendor excuses, as well.

 Neat.  I hope you get it working, but until then we do have a working
 package system here on debian-user.  We call it dpkg.
Precisely.  I believe what he was mentioning was some kind of front end.  I 
have not looked at Diety, but I believe that may be much of the solution.  
Note that, however, Diety is designed for today's typical Linux User, which 
is not the target audience for SEUL.  Because of that, even Diety may be 
overkill.  I would like to make it almost trivial for a user to install a 
package, i.e. click in a hypertext help/wizard window and it will install 
what is required for functionality set X (e.g. I want to set up a dialup 
account with email masquerading and a DynDNS hostname, ok, that's maybe a 
little complex...).

 Hmm, well, you must not read the Debian lists then :)  There's been a
 lot of sniping recently about 1.3.1 (bo) _NOT_ being kept up to date.
 Most users seem to prefer up to date whether they need it or not.
That may be true of the current Linux User, as defined above, but not of 
the end-user that SEUL is targeting.  A unified core will help much in 
these goals, though.

 does nothing to further the goal of this list: Helping Debian Users.
I agree.  This discussion should be moved to seul-project and/or the 
appropriate Debian developers list.

 I'm not saying your project is unimportant.  I am saying that its
 discussion doesn't belong here.
Quite right.

 No comment :)
The use of sendmail may also be up for debate.  At the time sendmail was 
decided upon, we had intentionally restricted our choices to sendmail and 
qmail.  The debate was over two things: capabilities and license.  sendmail 
came out on top in both of those categories.

This does not mean that sendmail is necessarily our choice.  I intend to ask 
people to write up their experiences with any and all MTA's they have seen, 
used, or just heard of (and then tried, of course).  These documents will be 
formalized and posted to our site, and will then form the basis for a 
point-by-point discussion to decide which MTA is best.  Once a general 
consensus is reached within the team responsible for this decision, we will 
have officially decided on one or another.

There are more procedures we have yet to put into effect, partially because 
of lack of underlying services (our web site is still being pieced together, 
for instance).


I hope this help clear up some questions about SEUL.  If you have more, 
please feel free to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (a two-person alias) and we will do 
our best to answer them.

TTYL,
Omega

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Re: SEUL: Re: SEUL distribution?

1998-01-15 Thread A. M. Varon
On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Erik Walthinsen wrote:

 I know that RedHat rushed quite a bit to get Hurricane out, and it shows in 
 the speed at which the Errata list has grown.  I will have to now take a 
 closer look at the Debian distribution's efforts relative to glibc and 
 stability.

Stability you've got it. One good example is the Netscape installer
(Navigator or Communicator) Debian. This installer fixes a few glitches
where Netscape would give you a bus error. So Netscape is very stable when
I run it... even with java applets in some web pages.

Other distro? well, you don't have an installer for netscape. 

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Re: Printer name

1998-01-15 Thread Cedric Bapst

iquest wrote:
Hi,

 I've purchased a Laser printer and I'd like to know how do I
 know the name of the print that connect to my Debian box.
I
 am able to print files without any problem. I just like
to know
 how printer name was created (if any).

 Thanks!

Timothy C. Phan

Have a look in /etc/printcap file. If you have only one printer,
the first
line of the printer definition entry should look like this:

 Printer name>[|Printer alias>|...]\

Now if you have more than one printer, there is there are two possibilities
to
define a default printer. The first is to set as printer name or printer
alias
the key word lp. The second is to define an environment variable PRINTER
to the default printer name to use.

Of course, if you have only one printer you can know you printer name
with
the second method too.

These informations should be exact but I'm not on my Linux box actually.
So if something is not exact, take a look in the lpr manpage.

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Re: X-win more effiecient than Win95?

1998-01-15 Thread Rick Jones
Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
 
 Yes, and the functions are not really hidden, they're just not documented.
 But heck, what _is_ documented in Win95? The trouble shooting help
 doesn't get you far beyond is the printer switched on? and check that
 the cable is plugged in.

Very true.  I think they might have left out the important stuff to keep
non-power users from getting wise to their little game of shells right
off the bat.

Additionally if it was the OS there wouldn't be an option in the
  preferences of a DOS program to hide windows from DOS programs nor the
  need to reboot into DOS for other programs.
 
 And those are the options you don't have on aa WinNT system. WinNT is an
 OS.

Exactly.  I'm sure (foolish?!?) that they are going to come through with
a genuine graphical OS in the upcoming iteration of Windoze (98 - 99?)
since there has been quite a bit of talk concerning the piece of beta
crap they shipped in those Windoze boxes.

 Well, I have seen Win95 boxes where the explorer took very long to start
 up, probably due to network problems. I noticed that, before the explorer
 is started, Ctrl-Esc works like in Win3.x and gives you the task manager
 which lets you run any program (including exporer, which can be very
 convenient if you're having problems).
 
 Remco

That may be due to explorer actually running but not displayed, but I'll
have to check that out.  Even so I doubt it's stable at all.  Hell,
Windoze isn't really stable when it's loaded normally =)


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Debian 1.3.1 on Compaq ProSignia

1998-01-15 Thread Herbert Pöhlmann
Hello,

my problem is as follows:

I tried to install Debian 1.3.1 with the rescue disk to an old (7/1993)
Compaq Server ProSignia 80486/66 MHz. When I try the second step of
installation (partition the harddisks), an error occurs with the
message:
No harddisk to be found!
The Server contains an EISA-board, an SCSI-2-Controller NCR 52c710
onboard, 4 harddisks (IBM. 3x1,05 GB, 1x1,2GB), an Toshiba CD-ROM and a
Compaq Netflex 32 netcard.

So what can I do that Linux finds the SCSI-Controller ?

Thank you very much,

Herbert Poehlmann


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Re: cdrom problem

1998-01-15 Thread Tim Thomson
I have the same problem with a Mitsumi cdrom on a Mad16 card. I thought it
was something to do with the fact that the Mad16 is a software
configurable card.

Linux seems to leave the hardware in a state DOS can't recognise.

I just use halt instead of reboot, and then press the reset button.

Tim.

PS, sorry if this has already been replied to, usa.net is about six hours
slow, I'm looking for another POP mail service.

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Re: Problem dialing in w/AutoPPP/PAP! Help!

1998-01-15 Thread Philip Hands
 I can verify that turning off shadow passwords fixes the PAP problem.
 This is unacceptable.  And it's already reported in bug 16044.  Oh well. 

It this the case with ppp-pam installed ?

If you are using ppp for dial-in, with PAP authentication, I was assuming that 
people will be using PAM too.  Install ppp-pam_2.3.2-2.deb to get PAM support.

Also ppp_2.3.2-2.deb has shadow support (I hope), where ppp_2.3.2-1.deb did 
not, so you could try that.  There is a problem with the non-pam ppp's 
handling of password aging, so on the whole I'd prefer if people used PAM for 
dial in.

I'd be interested to hear how people get on with PAM, since I don't use PAP 
for dial-in, so have trouble testing it.

BTW I'm hoping to get pppd to be able to detect the presence of libpam at 
run-time, and so get rid of the ppp-pam package in the future.

Cheers, Phil.
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Re: Upgrade script, bo to hamm

1998-01-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, IBMackey wrote:

  try reinstalling the dpkg-ftp package is the only thing i can think
  of.
 
  are you behind a firewall of any kind? check your configuration of
  dpkg-ftp too...
 
  BTW, which version of the upgrade script did you run?

 Craig, I tried reinstalling, the dpkg -iBE just skips it saying all is
 well. 

i didn't mean run the autoupgrade script again (fortunately, it's not
dangerous to run more than once on a system...it doesn't re-do stuff
that it's already done).

i meant reinstall just the dpkg-ftp package with 'dpkg -i ...'


 I'm not behind a firewall. I used v0.5 of your script. I'm intrigued

if version 0.5 ran through without any errors, then the script has done
it's job. it stops as soon as it encounters an error.


 by your suggestion to configure the dpkg-ftp. What kind of configuration
 does it need ???

i don't use the ftp method, but i recall that it has a passive option.  try
yes and try no.  see if it makes any difference.  it's been some time since
i even looked at dpkg-ftp so there may be other options you can try.

you get to reconfigure an install method - e.g. ftp - by selecting it
again from the Access methods menu in dselect.

craig

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Re: xfig: Freezes when Text button is pushed

1998-01-15 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On Wed, 14 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I recently installed Debian 1.3.1.
 
 Have anybody else come across this? How do I proceed to debug this?

I had exactly this same problem :-( 

My solution, while not going to hamm (with lib6) to check newer version,
was use the mono chromatic version. To do this, I had to uninstall xfig
and re-install it, choosing mono version at the setup. 

It works fair well now.


[]s,
Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21


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Re: Problem dialing in w/AutoPPP/PAP! Help!

1998-01-15 Thread grin
Hello Phil,

On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Philip Hands wrote:

  I can verify that turning off shadow passwords fixes the PAP problem.
  This is unacceptable.  And it's already reported in bug 16044.  Oh well. 
 
 It this the case with ppp-pam installed ?

With or without. Tried both.

 If you are using ppp for dial-in, with PAP authentication, I was assuming 
 that 
 people will be using PAM too.  Install ppp-pam_2.3.2-2.deb to get PAM support.

I tried that as well.

 Also ppp_2.3.2-2.deb has shadow support (I hope), where ppp_2.3.2-1.deb did 
 not, so you could try that.  There is a problem with the non-pam ppp's 
 handling of password aging, so on the whole I'd prefer if people used PAM for 
 dial in.

Well I did not analysed my system's password resolution THAT deep (this is
my fault :)) so I cannot tell whether PAM works or not. But I installed
libpam0g and libpam0g-util so I suppose it does, since me and the users
are use usual login procedures as telnet or ftp, and they seem to work.
[Uhh, sidenote. Checking the dependencies showed that I have no packages
depending on libpam, so, ehm, could be that nobody ever cared it's there.
So I cannot tell whether my PAM installation is correct or not since
nobody uses it AFAIS. How to tell...?]

Unfortunately I cannot tell - even using all the debugging levels are
there - what is the problem when failing authentication. Isn't it possible
to create a nice Just For Me pppd with extended pw fail debugging? (PAM or
plain result codes, details on failing like lib fail, pw fail, aging fail,
etc.) I'd glad to run it for you and tell the result! [I badly need a pppd
handling libc6 utmp/wtmp correctly.]

Of course I tried 2.3.2-2. Didn't worked with or without the ppp-pam
package. Is the .../pam.d/ppp file correct? I'm not a PAM guru...

bye,
peter


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Re: PAP - Shadow passwords may also make a difference

1998-01-15 Thread Irmund Thum
 I had this problem; PAP just didn't damn well work. For me, the fix
 was
 to add the following to pap-secrets:

 # magic fix
 *   * *

 Someone on one of the linux mailing lists suggested it; it seems to be

 otherwise undocumented, although certainly not unimportant.

 Shadow passwords may also make a difference. I'm not using them here;
 I think last time I tried them (on ppp 2.2) I couldn't login with PAP
 any more either.

is that true?
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Re: xfig: Freezes when Text button is pushed

1998-01-15 Thread joost witteveen
 I recently installed Debian 1.3.1.
 
 When I use xfig, everything works O.K. till I try to use text by pushing
 the Text button and it freezes. Ocassionally,  one or two of the other
 buttons also give this problem.
 
 Have anybody else come across this? 

Yes, me. For me it was caused by xaw95 (or maybe xaw3d). Eighter
uninstalling those, or installing the xaw-wrappers package helped
in my case.
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Re: Why /floppy -- why not /mnt/fd or something?

1998-01-15 Thread David Wright
On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Daniel Martin at cush wrote:

 Peter Prohaska [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  why `/dev/fd*'s are mounted at /floppy.
   When reading fsstnd, you would expect them to be mounted in
  /mnt/someting.  Since /floppy is neither one of those un*x shorties nor
  used during installation I can't see why it lives on the root.
 
 The floppy drive not used during installation?  Depends on how you
 install.

I use floppy installation but I don't use /floppy. I assume the floppies 
don't actually get mounted during installation, so you have to type /dev/fd0.

But I do like /floppy as I don't normally cd there, but I can type /ftab 
and that's it. I'm careful to preserve unique first letters for all the 
frequently used top level directories. In fact, only /bin, /boot, /lib and 
/var don't work this way (thanks to lost+found and the kernel link).

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Re: PAP - Shadow passwords may also make a difference

1998-01-15 Thread Peter Iannarelli
Hello all:

I have adjusted by pap-secrets file as follows:

#magic fix
*   *  

not

 # magic fix
 *   * *

I have tested with and without shadow passwords and
all works fine. I think the trick is in the /etc/mgetty/login.config.
I had to specify login in the AutoPPP line.  OR  perhaps its
some other little setting I am over looking. For example.

in my /etc/ppp/
options.ttyS0
options.ttyS1
options.ttyC0   .

I specify the following:
*** options.ttyS0 file ***
moose:moose-s0 not moose-s0:mooseas indicated in the example
*** options.ttyS1 file ***
moose:moose-s1 not moose-s1:mooseas indicated in the example

In my /etc/hosts file I give the indicated nodes IP addresses. ie:
142.154.27.2moose--- multiport server

142.154.27.10  moose-s0
142.154.27.11  moose-s1

Peter

-Original Message-
From: Irmund Thum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Thursday, January 15, 1998 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: PAP - Shadow passwords may also make a difference


 I had this problem; PAP just didn't damn well work. For me, the fix
 was
 to add the following to pap-secrets:

 # magic fix
 *   * *

 Someone on one of the linux mailing lists suggested it; it seems to be

 otherwise undocumented, although certainly not unimportant.

 Shadow passwords may also make a difference. I'm not using them here;
 I think last time I tried them (on ppp 2.2) I couldn't login with PAP
 any more either.

is that true?
__
IT




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Re: Pregunta (reply in spanish)

1998-01-15 Thread Ulisses Alonso Camaro
Hola Fabio!

On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Fabio Daniel Guerra wrote:

 Como hago para adquirir el Programa LINUX DEBIAN. Lo nesecito urgente y
 no lo concigo?

En el servidor de Debian (www.debian.org) puedes encontrar una lista de
ellos, concretamente puedes mirarlo en http://www.debian.org/vendors.html

un saludo desde Espan~a

Ulisses

PD: en la maling list normalmente se habla en ingles, hay mailing lists
sobre linux en castellano como [EMAIL PROTECTED], si quieres mas
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Re: Pregunta (reply in spanish)

1998-01-15 Thread jdassen
On Thu, Jan 15, 1998 at 02:23:40PM +0100, Ulisses Alonso Camaro wrote:
 PD: en la maling list normalmente se habla en ingles, hay mailing lists
 sobre linux en castellano como [EMAIL PROTECTED], si quieres mas
 informacion sobre ello avisame...

According to ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/mailing-lists.txt we have also
a spanish-language user mailing list:
debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org

Description : This list is used to give support for Spanish
speaking users of Debian GNU/Linux.
Language: spanish
Moderated   : no
Subscription: open

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procps_1.2.5-1.deb install error

1998-01-15 Thread Nelson, R.A \(Richard/Rick\)
This procps fails on install:
 trying to overwrite directory `/bin' in package debianutils with
 nondirectory

Richard Nelson


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printing

1998-01-15 Thread tko
Question for the C crowd: I have a program which I wish to print an ordered
text file. In the Linux Programmers Guide, the printer chapter shows how to
directly talk to the printer port. I'd like to be able to send the text to the
appropriate printer filter (and spooler). How would one go about doing that?

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xauth problem

1998-01-15 Thread tko
I've chased this one for a while. Martin Bialasinski tried to help via private
email, but neither of us could figure out what is wrong.

# xauth -i generate  westgac3/unix:0 .
xauth:  creating new authority file ~/.Xauthority
xauth:  unable to open tmp file ~/.Xauthority-n
xauth:  unable to write authority file ~/.Xauthority-n

With Martin's guidance, I learned about using strace, so here's the 'strace' 
result:
---

# strace xauth -i generate westgac3/unix:0 .
execve(/usr/X11/bin/xauth, [xauth, -i, generate, westgac3/unix:0, 
.], [/* 25 vars */]) = 0
mmap(0, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
0x40007000
mprotect(0x4000, 20301, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
mprotect(0x8048000, 23763, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
stat(/etc/ld.so.cache, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=8784, ...}) = 0
open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY)  = 3
mmap(0, 8784, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, 3, 0) = 0x40008000
close(3)= 0
open(/usr/lib/libgnumalloc.so.5, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 12288, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4000b000
mmap(0x4000b000, 5832, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) = 
0x4000b000
mmap(0x4000d000, 1988, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x1000) 
= 0x4000d000
close(3)= 0
mprotect(0x4000b000, 5832, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
stat(/etc/ld.so.preload, 0xbadc)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 73728, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4000e000
mmap(0x4000e000, 62925, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) = 
0x4000e000
mmap(0x4001e000, 3612, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0xf000) 
= 0x4001e000
mmap(0x4001f000, 232, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4001f000
close(3)= 0
mprotect(0x4000e000, 62925, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 270336, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4002
mmap(0x4002, 251891, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) = 
0x4002
mmap(0x4005e000, 13596, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0x3d000) = 0x4005e000
close(3)= 0
mprotect(0x4002, 251891, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 36864, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40062000
mmap(0x40062000, 27717, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) = 
0x40062000
mmap(0x40069000, 4640, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x6000) 
= 0x40069000
close(3)= 0
mprotect(0x40062000, 27717, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 86016, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4006b000
mmap(0x4006b000, 71563, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) = 
0x4006b000
mmap(0x4007d000, 3180, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x11000) 
= 0x4007d000
mmap(0x4007e000, 6236, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4007e000
close(3)= 0
mprotect(0x4006b000, 71563, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 45056, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4008
mmap(0x4008, 36153, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) = 
0x4008
mmap(0x40089000, 4300, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x8000) 
= 0x40089000
close(3)= 0
mprotect(0x4008, 36153, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
open(/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 647168, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4008b000
mmap(0x4008b000, 624417, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) = 
0x4008b000
mmap(0x40124000, 17760, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0x98000) = 0x40124000
close(3)= 0
mprotect(0x4008b000, 624417, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC) = 0
open(/lib/libc.so.5, O_RDONLY)= 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3..., 4096) = 4096
mmap(0, 765952, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40129000
mmap(0x40129000, 531571, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0) = 
0x40129000
mmap(0x401ab000, 22276, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0x81000) = 0x401ab000
mmap(0x401b1000, 205164, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 

ProFTPD 1.0.0 and remote users

1998-01-15 Thread Nelson, R.A \(Richard/Rick\)
Has anyone setup ProFTPD? Local access is fairly snappy, but remote
users find that it is excruciatingly slow from the connected message
to the user prompt -- and it doesn't seem to get any faster after
that either.

An mget * request of a large directory (say /usr/share/games/fortunes)
errors out with the message can't find list of remote files, oops

Richard Nelson


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RE: [Q] ~/.xinitrc is not being read

1998-01-15 Thread Vladislav Papayan x285
Yes,
that is what I found yesterday -- besides being named .xsesion,
the file needs to be an executable -- it does not need to have
#!/bin/bash -- however.


Vladislav

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Subject:   Re: [Q] ~/.xinitrc is not being read

Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 03:05:04PM -0500, Vladislav Papayan x285 wrote:
  I use now xdm to login into the system -- however
  it seems like my ~/.xinitrc is being ignored.
 
 .xinitrc is used for startx, and .xsession is used for xdm logins.
 I symlink them together here for convenience.

I believe that the .xsession script must also be executable. The first
line in the script should be #! /bin/sh, then do chmod +x .xsession

(or do this to .xinitrc if you use the symlink method)

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Re: procps_1.2.5-1.deb install error

1998-01-15 Thread Scott Ellis
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Nelson, R.A (Richard/Rick) wrote:

 This procps fails on install:
  trying to overwrite directory `/bin' in package debianutils with
  nondirectory

Known problem fixed with procps-1.2.5-2 which is stuck in incoming at the
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Clean hamm installation

1998-01-15 Thread Maarten Boekhold
Hi,

Is it already possible to install a new system directly with hamm? I need 
to do an install tonight, and want it to be hamm.

I noticed that the hamm/main/disks-i386/current directory points to 
bo/disks-i386/current. Does this mean that I can install a clean libc6 
system using those install disks? Or would a better approach be to 
install a minimal bo system and then upgrade?

Maarten

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Re: printing

1998-01-15 Thread Ben Pfaff
   Question for the C crowd: I have a program which I wish to print an ordered
   text file. In the Linux Programmers Guide, the printer chapter shows how to
   directly talk to the printer port. I'd like to be able to send the text to 
the
   appropriate printer filter (and spooler). How would one go about doing that?

lpr filename

See the documentation on lpr and printcap, in the lprng package.


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Re: smail / fetchmail and ppp problems

1998-01-15 Thread Jaakko Niemi
 On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Damir J. Naden wrote:
  Yup, same here. It takes a *very long* time for the mail to get from 
  fetchmail
  to my mailbox. Has anyone tried exim package and what (if any) downsides 
  are to
  use the exim instead of the smail package?
 
 I use the smail version that came with the Debian 1.3.1 CD and do not have
 the same problem. I have tried several times to get exim going, but did
 not succeed.  I have read somewhere that there maybe a problem using
 fetchmail and exim together. 

 I'm using hamm versions of exim and fetchmail, and haven't had any 
 problems related to these (fetchmail once didn't take the mda.. line 
 as the last line of .fetchmailrc, but same thing with couple other so 
 it wasn't related).

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Re: printing

1998-01-15 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Question for the C crowd: I have a program which I wish to print an ordered
 text file. In the Linux Programmers Guide, the printer chapter shows how to
 directly talk to the printer port. I'd like to be able to send the text to the
 appropriate printer filter (and spooler). How would one go about doing that?

Send your file to the lpr command.  This is easier than it may at
first seem because of the popen command that allows one to open a pipe 
as if it were a regular file; for example:

FILE *outputf;

if (should_print) outputf = popen(lpr, w);
else outputf = fopen(tmpfilename, w);

Or even:

FILE *outputf;
char buffer[256];

if (should_print) {
  sprintf(buffer, lpr -P%s, printer_name);
  outputf = popen(buffer, w);
} else outputf = fopen(tmpfilename, w);


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Re: Clean hamm installation

1998-01-15 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Maarten Boekhold wrote:

 I noticed that the hamm/main/disks-i386/current directory points to 
 bo/disks-i386/current. Does this mean that I can install a clean libc6 
 system using those install disks? Or would a better approach be to 
 install a minimal bo system and then upgrade?

Base disks are in the works.  In the mean time, install bo first and
upgrade (I'd suggest trying the script).

Brandon


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Re: printing

1998-01-15 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Question for the C crowd: I have a program which I wish to print an ordered
text file. In the Linux Programmers Guide, the printer chapter shows how to
directly talk to the printer port. I'd like to be able to send the text to the
appropriate printer filter (and spooler). How would one go about doing that?

  FILE *fp;

  fp = popen(lpr, w);

  fprintf(fp, Hello world\n);

  pclose(fp);

See the manual page for popen()

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Re: printing

1998-01-15 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
 
 Question for the C crowd: I have a program which I wish to print an ordered
 text file. In the Linux Programmers Guide, the printer chapter shows how to
 directly talk to the printer port. I'd like to be able to send the text to the
 appropriate printer filter (and spooler). How would one go about doing that?
 

My quick and dirty attempt (I checked that it does compile though)
would be:


#include stdio.h
#include stdlib.h

int main(void) {
  FILE *fp;
  char* printername = bla;
  char command[1024];

  sprintf(command, lpr -P%s, printername);
  fp = popen(command, w);
  if(fp == NULL) {
fprintf(stderr, Could not output to printer %s\n, printername);
perror(NULL);
exit(1);
  }

  fprintf(fp, This goes to the filter known to /etc/printcap as %s\n,
printername);
  pclose(fp);
}


The interesting thing is in the popen()/pclose() functions.  You might
want to check the man page on those.  Problem is you cannot read error
messages from the lpr command in your program.  If you cannot live with
that, it will get much more complicated (interesting reading material
about communication betweeen processes is in the comp.unix.programmer
faq).

Eric Meijer

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Re: xauth problem

1998-01-15 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've chased this one for a while. Martin Bialasinski tried to help via private
email, but neither of us could figure out what is wrong.

open(~/.Xauthority, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
access(~/.Xauthority, F_OK)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)

The kernel does not know about ~/ as an abbreviation of the homedirectory,
that's why it fails. I think you have set some environment variable which
xauth uses to ~/ or similar instead of the full path to your homedirectory.
Check out the output of set and/or printenv to find out which variable.

Mike.
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Re: ProFTPD 1.0.0 and remote users

1998-01-15 Thread Ben Pfaff
   Has anyone setup ProFTPD? Local access is fairly snappy, but remote
   users find that it is excruciatingly slow from the connected message
   to the user prompt -- and it doesn't seem to get any faster after
   that either.

   An mget * request of a large directory (say /usr/share/games/fortunes)
   errors out with the message can't find list of remote files, oops

I am using proftpd to host Debian and GNU mirrors as well as some
files of my own, and no one has complained.  You can try it out at
pfaffben.user.msu.edu, if you want.


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Re: Clean hamm installation

1998-01-15 Thread Ben Pfaff
   Is it already possible to install a new system directly with hamm? I need 
   to do an install tonight, and want it to be hamm.

There aren't an hamm boot disks yet.  You have to install bo, then
upgrade.


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Re: Clean hamm installation

1998-01-15 Thread Sten Anderson
Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Maarten Boekhold wrote:
 
  I noticed that the hamm/main/disks-i386/current directory points to 
  bo/disks-i386/current. Does this mean that I can install a clean libc6 
  system using those install disks? Or would a better approach be to 
  install a minimal bo system and then upgrade?
 
 Base disks are in the works.  In the mean time, install bo first and
 upgrade (I'd suggest trying the script).

There is no need to install the entire Bo dist. Install only the Bo
base system using the base floppies. At the end of the installation
process dselect is started. Quit immediately, and do a manual bo-hamm
upgrade of the base system (by using the script or the howto). When
then the base system is upgraded to libc6 you can start dselect again
and point it to the hamm dist.

- Sten Anderson


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Re: xauth problem

1998-01-15 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:

 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've chased this one for a while. Martin Bialasinski tried to help via 
 private
 email, but neither of us could figure out what is wrong.

 open(~/.Xauthority, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
 directory)
 access(~/.Xauthority, F_OK)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
 directory)

 The kernel does not know about ~/ as an abbreviation of the homedirectory,
 that's why it fails. I think you have set some environment variable which
 xauth uses to ~/ or similar instead of the full path to your homedirectory.
 Check out the output of set and/or printenv to find out which variable.


To be more specific, it is the shell (bash, csh, whatever) which expands '~' 
into
the path for your home directory. You probably put this in your .bash_profile:

XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority

Putting the '~' within quotes keeps the shell from performing the expansion. As 
a
pure example try the following commands:

echo ~
echo ~
echo \~

Here's a tip for you though: if you are trying to create the .Xauthority so you 
can
run things from X when you logged in as your regular user there's a better 
(easier)
way. Let's say that I logged into xdm on my workstation as the user myself. 
Now I
need to do a few administration things so I have to su to root. After I 'su' I 
just
do:

export XAUTHORITY=~myself/.Xauthority

And off I go. Note that this works because although the perms on an Xauthority 
file
are always set to 0600, root can read *any* file.

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Windows NT Debian

1998-01-15 Thread Adam Greene




This is the output from my Linux box that won't 
attach to my network:




boot.info
Description: Binary data


ethernet.info
Description: Binary data


route.info
Description: Binary data


Re: hamm screen

1998-01-15 Thread Norbert Veber
On Thu, Jan 15, 1998 at 04:52:01PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 08:23:23PM +, Norbert Veber wrote:
  I am having a strange problem with the hamm version of screen, it works fine
  for root, but when any other user tries to run it, it just 'freezes' as in:
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] screen
  
  it just sits there for ever, not error message, nothing.
 
 Permissions correct on /tmp? (drwxrwxrwxt). screen creates
 some sockets in /tmp I believe. I'm using 3.7.4-3 here
 and it seems to be fine.

yes, they are:
drwxrwxrwt   3 root root 4096 Jan 15 12:02 tmp

I use 3.7.4-4, I've noticed that it does not make any files in /tmp even
when I run it as root.  I remember that the bo screen used to make something
like /tmp/screens/username..


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Re: Lilo howto install it?

1998-01-15 Thread Sten Anderson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Try   man lilo.conf
 
 Did you read /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/LILO.gz ?

Or even better: Read the Lilo User Guide. It resides in
/usr/doc/lilo. Unfortunately only as latex source. gunzip all files in 
the directory and type make. That should generate user.dvi and
tech.dvi. If you prefer postscript try dvips user.dvi -o

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Whiney little request

1998-01-15 Thread Richard Wicks
Hello everybody,

I have a minor little request.  Does anybody else miss the xbiff
program in debian?  I can't seem to even find the SOURCE code anywere.  I
am fully aware that this is an extremely minor request and is just filler
for your mailbox but I would like to see it as part of the default.

Anyone else?

Thanks,
-Rich

P.S.  I've just installed debian (good riddance to slackware) and beleive I
  encountered a bug when trying to install netscape.  Did anybody else
  have a similar problem?  I kept getting an error where dselect told
  me that the the netscape.tar.gz file should be in my /tmp directory.
  Does this sound familar to anybody?  In anycase, netscape did not install
  so I picked it up from the netscape website via lynx.


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Re: Whiney little request

1998-01-15 Thread Norbert Veber
On Thu, Jan 15, 1998 at 10:17:02AM -0700, Richard Wicks wrote:
 Hello everybody,
 
   I have a minor little request.  Does anybody else miss the xbiff
 program in debian?  I can't seem to even find the SOURCE code anywere.  I
 am fully aware that this is an extremely minor request and is just filler
 for your mailbox but I would like to see it as part of the default.
 
   Anyone else?

xbiff is in the xcontrib package in hamm, it is probably in the equivalent
bo package as well

 
 Thanks,
 -Rich
 
 P.S.  I've just installed debian (good riddance to slackware) and beleive I
   encountered a bug when trying to install netscape.  Did anybody else
   have a similar problem?  I kept getting an error where dselect told
   me that the the netscape.tar.gz file should be in my /tmp directory.
   Does this sound familar to anybody?  In anycase, netscape did not 
 install
   so I picked it up from the netscape website via lynx.
 

netscape is not distributed with debian, the package you are talking about
is just an installer script.  you have to get it with lynx as you
did, then place the tar.gz in /tmp and the netscape*.deb takes care of
installation for you..
 


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Re: Whiney little request

1998-01-15 Thread Will Lowe
Xbiff is there.  
http://cgi.debian.org/www-master/debian.org/Packages/stable/x11/xcontrib.html

There are also other alternatives to xbiff that are similar but do niftier
things.  Hit http://www.debian.org/packages.html and search for xbiff.


   encountered a bug when trying to install netscape.  Did anybody else
   have a similar problem?  I kept getting an error where dselect told
   me that the the netscape.tar.gz file should be in my /tmp directory.
Netscape can't be redistributed by anyone except Netscape Inc. without
paying large fees. You have to download the netscape.tar.gz from
netscape.com,  put it in /tmp,  and the netscape package .deb will install
if for you.

Will


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Re: Staroffice 3.1 core-dumps.

1998-01-15 Thread Neilen Marais
 Hi
 
 I installed Staroffice 3.1 using the debian installer .deb's  All
 seemed to have gone fine, but when I run setup to do the per-user
setup
 bit, it coredumps... Also if I run swriter3, or any of the other
 binaries, it also tries to run the setup bit, which core-dumps of
 course, and then complains about the user setup not being done.
 
 Running a Hamm system that is about a week old since the last
update.

Quick hack to make it work

rename /usr/X11R6/lib to /usr/X11R6/libx
run the staroffice setup
rename /usr/X11R6/libx to /usr/X11R6/lib

Would there be anything wrong with just making a symbolic link?  And
leaveing it there (in case there are any other hair-brained apps
looking for a funny lib

To answer myself, no, a link don't work, only re-naming.

Anyway, thanks for the quick, correct answer :)


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Re: proftpd

1998-01-15 Thread Aria Prima Novianto

I can't seem to do a recursive get on proftpd.
Anything I should set in config file?
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Re: ProFTPD 1.0.0 and remote users

1998-01-15 Thread Nelson, R.A \(Richard/Rick\)
Thanks, I've verified the problem on your system as well ---

Users behind a firewall see the hang betwixt connect/user prompt and
then a hang during a ls (right after passive mode is entered).

When I do the same from my ISP (no firewall), I see no delay at all.

I've sent a bug report to the ProFTPD 1.0.0 author, have installed
wu-ftpd-academ again untill I hear back.

Richard Nelson


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Re: Staroffice 3.1 core-dumps.

1998-01-15 Thread Scott Ellis
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Neilen Marais wrote:

  Hi
  
  I installed Staroffice 3.1 using the debian installer .deb's  All
  seemed to have gone fine, but when I run setup to do the per-user
 setup
  bit, it coredumps... Also if I run swriter3, or any of the other
  binaries, it also tries to run the setup bit, which core-dumps of
  course, and then complains about the user setup not being done.
  
  Running a Hamm system that is about a week old since the last
 update.
 
 Quick hack to make it work
 
 rename /usr/X11R6/lib to /usr/X11R6/libx
 run the staroffice setup
 rename /usr/X11R6/libx to /usr/X11R6/lib
 
 Would there be anything wrong with just making a symbolic link?  And
 leaveing it there (in case there are any other hair-brained apps
 looking for a funny lib

The problem is that the setup program is finding the xlib6g libs there,
which causes it a problem since it needs the regular xlib6 libs.  Renaming
the directory moves the xlib6g stuff completely out of ld.so's path.  This
will, of course, break running new X stuff until the directory is put
back, but it allows the setup program to find the correct libraries in
/usr/lib/libc5-compat


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Re: xauth problem

1998-01-15 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

 Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
 
  In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've chased this one for a while. Martin Bialasinski tried to help via 
  private
  email, but neither of us could figure out what is wrong.
 
  open(~/.Xauthority, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
  directory)
  access(~/.Xauthority, F_OK)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
  directory)
 
  The kernel does not know about ~/ as an abbreviation of the homedirectory,
  that's why it fails. I think you have set some environment variable which
  xauth uses to ~/ or similar instead of the full path to your 
  homedirectory.
  Check out the output of set and/or printenv to find out which variable.
 
 
 To be more specific, it is the shell (bash, csh, whatever) which expands '~' 
 into
 the path for your home directory. You probably put this in your .bash_profile:
 
 XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority

The solution is, of course:

XAUTHORITY=${HOME}/.Xauthority
(AFAIK, $HOME is already set when /etc/profile is run)

But this is the default location. I think it is better to not set the
variable at all if you don't have a good reason to set it.

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odd login prompt

1998-01-15 Thread Shaleh
On my hamm system if I misspell my password and get a new prompt, it
appears that issue is not parsed, simply printed.  My prompt is
something like0 Debian \s 2.0 hamm \n.  On initial login it is fine. 
I have discovered that this happens even if I just hit enter at the
login prompt.


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RE: printing

1998-01-15 Thread Orn E. Hansen

Þann 15-Jan-98 skrifar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Question for the C crowd: I have a program which I wish to print an ordered
 text file. In the Linux Programmers Guide, the printer chapter shows how to
 directly talk to the printer port. I'd like to be able to send the text to
 the
 appropriate printer filter (and spooler). How would one go about doing that?
 
  Put the ordered file into a temporary one, and execl 'lpr' on that file,
removing it when 'lpr' is done... or open a pipe to 'lpr'.


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a hamm question

1998-01-15 Thread Martin Jackson
Hello all,

I am wondering about Debian 2.0...

WIll it have more SCSI drivers in the basic install package?  1.3.1 (at
least the one I got, from cheapbytes) only offered the ncr8x0.  I will be
using aha152x and pas16 SCSI on my Linux systems.

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Re: xauth problem

1998-01-15 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Remco Blaakmeer wrote:

 On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

  Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
 
   In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I've chased this one for a while. Martin Bialasinski tried to help via 
   private
   email, but neither of us could figure out what is wrong.
  
   open(~/.Xauthority, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
   directory)
   access(~/.Xauthority, F_OK)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
   directory)
  
   The kernel does not know about ~/ as an abbreviation of the 
   homedirectory,
   that's why it fails. I think you have set some environment variable which
   xauth uses to ~/ or similar instead of the full path to your 
   homedirectory.
   Check out the output of set and/or printenv to find out which 
   variable.
  
 
  To be more specific, it is the shell (bash, csh, whatever) which expands 
  '~' into
  the path for your home directory. You probably put this in your 
  .bash_profile:
 
  XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority

 The solution is, of course:

 XAUTHORITY=${HOME}/.Xauthority
 (AFAIK, $HOME is already set when /etc/profile is run)

 But this is the default location. I think it is better to not set the
 variable at all if you don't have a good reason to set it.

Ah, but in the situation I described, you want to point to the logged-in user's
Xauthority, not roots, so using your command above will not work since once you 
su HOME
will be root's home directory. Also as you point out you don't need to set it. 
I believe
xdm provides it. Also, you must make sure to 'export' the variable.

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Re: a hamm question

1998-01-15 Thread Ben Pfaff
   WIll it have more SCSI drivers in the basic install package?  1.3.1 (at
   least the one I got, from cheapbytes) only offered the ncr8x0.  I will be
   using aha152x and pas16 SCSI on my Linux systems.

1.3.1 does support other scsi drivers, including aha152x.  But it
doesn't autoprobe for many of these.  For instance, if you are using
the default settings for your aha152x, then you need to give the
following argument to the kernel when it boots:

aha152x=0x140,11,7,1

and it will detect the card.


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Re: SVGATextMode - thanks for help

1998-01-15 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 07:06:55PM -0500, Igor Grobman wrote:
  On Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 04:48:30PM -0500, Igor Grobman wrote:
   
- don't use SVGATextMode if X is started
   
   Why? works fine here.
  
  He's right. X Server looks at the Textmode to save and restore it properly,
  but only once at startup-time. It then assumes that the mode keeps the same.
  So it fails to restore it properly if you switched mode in the meantime.
  
  Try: stm 100x37; startx; change back to console; stm 80x25; change to X and
  back to console, you get a skewed screen.
 
 It always worked fine for me here, and it does now, but the manpage does 
 mention that X-server indeed only saves textmode once at startup-time.  Maybe 
 it only works for some vidcards, or maybe the more likely reason is that I am 
 running the latest X-server(3.3.1-2) while bo has 3.3 which is older.

Wait a minute - I have 3.3.1-1, so it has to be the server / graphic card (I
use s3 server for trio64 hercules card).

Nice to hear it works for you ;)
Marcus

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BIND question

1998-01-15 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
   I have a problem with BIND.  


   We have a medium-sized network (192.168.0.0) connected to the
internet via a dial-on-demand ISDN line.  We pay by the minute, so we
want to keep connect-time to a minimum.  The ISDN router basically
masquerades the internal network.


   I want to run a nameserver on my Linux box on the 192.168.0.0
network.  I want to set it up with a couple of features:

1.  It should cache 'real' addresses from outside.

2.  It should forward unknown queries about 'real' addresses to a nearby
   nameserver on the other of the ISDN line.

3.  It should serve as a primary nameserver for the 192.168.0.0 domain.

4.  It should not forward any unknown queries about the 192.168.0.0 net
   over the ISDN line.


   I have got it configured to do 1, 2, and 3.  However, i dont have a
complete database of 192.168.0.0 names, and queries that arent satisfied
by my zone database are forwarded.  Is there any way around this?  Any
help is appreciated.




Sebastian


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Re: BIND question

1998-01-15 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:

I want to run a nameserver on my Linux box on the 192.168.0.0
 network.  I want to set it up with a couple of features:
 
 1.  It should cache 'real' addresses from outside.
 
 2.  It should forward unknown queries about 'real' addresses to a nearby
nameserver on the other of the ISDN line.
 
 3.  It should serve as a primary nameserver for the 192.168.0.0 domain.
 
 4.  It should not forward any unknown queries about the 192.168.0.0 net
over the ISDN line.
 
I have got it configured to do 1, 2, and 3.  However, i dont have a
 complete database of 192.168.0.0 names, and queries that arent satisfied
 by my zone database are forwarded.  Is there any way around this?  Any
 help is appreciated.

The newest version of bind allows for configuration of forwarding in
the named.conf file.  See /usr/doc/bind/manual/options.html for
details.  Your should be able to do what you need.

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Re: odd login prompt

1998-01-15 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Shaleh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On my hamm system if I misspell my password and get a new prompt, it
 appears that issue is not parsed, simply printed.  My prompt is
 something like0 Debian \s 2.0 hamm \n.  On initial login it is fine. 
 I have discovered that this happens even if I just hit enter at the
 login prompt.

This would seem to imply that getty (which issues the first prompt)
parses /etc/issue, but login (which issues subsequent login prompts)
does not.  I'd file a bug against login.


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Re: XDM,KDM on DEBIAN 1.31

1998-01-15 Thread Michele Dalla Silvestra
On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Herr Detlev Scholz (ODIS) wrote:

 Now i installed the KDE-desktop on the box. The KDE is working well,
 when i start with startx. When i try to aktivate XDM or KDM, the 
 Xserver starts, asks for login but after login it seems that the 
 Xserver crashes and XDM is started again asking for username.

Look in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, and add export KDEDIR=/usr/local/kde
or the right dir.

ciao

Michele

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Bo with Wine

1998-01-15 Thread IBMackey
Is there a way to keep the bo distribution of debian and install Wine?

I was thinking that you might could downgrade and use the older version of
libc5 which doesn't conflict w libc6, then just add the libc6 program,
make links, and then install wine.

Then you could just wait until Hamm becomes Bo again.

Anyway, that's my idea, has anybody tried it? Are there any pitfalls?

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Re: Bo with Wine

1998-01-15 Thread Norbert Veber
On Thu, Jan 15, 1998 at 02:15:49PM -0600, IBMackey wrote:
 Is there a way to keep the bo distribution of debian and install Wine?
 
 I was thinking that you might could downgrade and use the older version of
 libc5 which doesn't conflict w libc6, then just add the libc6 program,
 make links, and then install wine.
 
 Then you could just wait until Hamm becomes Bo again.
 
 Anyway, that's my idea, has anybody tried it? Are there any pitfalls?

just get the source and compile it, its just as easy.. :)


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Re: more from the ppp battlefield

1998-01-15 Thread dave mallery
At 04:18 PM 1/14/98 -0500, you wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, dave mallery wrote:

 i finally just killed the process supporting the mouse... i guess there is
 a way in some init control file to prevent it from starting gpm.

/etc/rc*.d/*gpm

 Serial connection established.
 Using interface ppp0
 Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS0
 
 then... it reports pairs of LCP ConfReq and ConfNak messages
 it looks like each one is echoed back immediately...
 after ten pairs, it reports:
 
 Serial line is looped back
 
 and shuts down.  : (
 onr thing i notice is that the connection was at 14.4 and my options
 show 38.4...  however, i can read the banner, etc and the password was
 passed ok.

The chatscript probably finished before the provider was ready for ppp to
start.  Dial in with something like minicom, and do the process by hand.
There is probably something at the end you forgot.

Good luck,
Brandon


hi

thanks for the reply.

(blush) i had the wrong password for logging in... it starts with
a captial P, not lower case.

now i can ping with abandon all over the net.

now i am back to work finding how to get my mail from the isp's 
mail server.  should i use elm or pine or...??  do they work
like Eudora and go thru a connection dialog with the mail server
every so often??

i re-configured my smail for network.  any other suggestions?

thanx again

dave


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Mail notification

1998-01-15 Thread Tim Thomson
Hi,
I have a number of mail boxes, to handle the different lists I am on.
I use procmail to filter the mails to the right folders.

I have put:
MAIL='/var/spool/mail/tim;/home/tim/mail/debian-user;/home/tim/mail/seul-
project'
MAILCHECK=10

into my .bash_profile. I have tried the same MAIL variable as MAILPATH but
this didn't work.

Also, how can I have mail that have been cross posted still sorted into
the correct boxes? At the moment procmail looks at the TO headers, but if
something is crossposted, all the mails go into the same box. I think I
need to set something in a different header, but I don't know what it is.

Thanks for any help,

Tim.

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