[Declude.Virus] RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude stopped logging, high CPU usage, slow processing

2013-04-09 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
If you upgraded to Declude 4.11.09 to avoid the AVG licence issue, you’ll find 
that it was a bandaid, and that build’s usefulness also expired 
contemporaneously with David and Linda’s employee status, on January 31, 2013.



C:\IMailstrings decludeproc.exe| grep  LicBeg

LicBeg, Ver=1.1, Name=Declude, Exp=2013-01-31, +Av, Sign=blahblahblah



You still received updates for a grace period (the files with zero bytes are 
normal for the Declude implementation of AVG):



C:\IMaildir C:\IMail\declude\scanners\AVG\db

Volume in drive C has no label.

Volume Serial Number is 9471-8A74



Directory of C:\IMail\declude\scanners\AVG\db



03/22/2013  07:47 AMDIR  .

03/22/2013  07:47 AMDIR  ..

03/19/2013  02:44 PM 0 avi7.avg

03/19/2013  02:44 PM 0 microavi.avg

03/19/2013  02:44 PM 0 miniavi.avg

03/22/2013  07:47 AM71,002,023 incavi.avm

   4 File(s) 71,002,023 bytes

   2 Dir(s)  11,036,254,208 bytes free

C:\IMail



This might be addressed in the latest (last?) build which you can obtain 
through the interim downloads website (log into your client support site for 
the link).



If I remember correctly, that build is on 2013-03-15 with v4.12.02 that 
specifically cites in the change log ReadMe.txt:



4.12.02 ==  Fix: update AVG Key

4.12.01 ==  Fix: AVG Bug

4.12.00 ==  Fix: update AVG Key



Which (I think) also fixes the “ERROR: Failed Initialize AVG 183” being spammed 
all over your c:\imail\declude\diags.txt





Andrew.





From: Dean Lawrence [mailto:dean...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 7:33 AM
To: declude.junkm...@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude stopped logging, high CPU usage, slow 
processing



Thanks Dave, will do.



On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:25 AM, David Barker dbar...@declude.com wrote:

Dean,



There is currently an issue with the AVG that we are currently working on. As 
far as backup in the \proc directory and the 0 Kb log that seems like a 
different issue. Can you please contact supp...@declude.com for assistance.


David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
dbar...@declude.com mailto:dbar...@declude.com











From: Dean Lawrence [mailto:dean...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 10:18 AM
To: declude.junkm...@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude stopped logging, high CPU usage, slow 
processing



The subject says it all. This morning, declude stated to have high cpu usage, 
the log file is 0k and messages are backing up in the proc directory. I looked 
in the diags.txt and I see this message:



ERROR: Failed Initialize AVG 183Daisy Chain 
smtp32.exe



I was running 4.11 and upgraded to 4.11.09 and still have the same results. Any 
thoughts?



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RE: [Declude.Virus] Test

2012-01-04 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Too quiet? Problem solved, like a BOSS.


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Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 8:33 AM
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Subject: [Declude.Virus] Test


Sorry for the test folks, new email setup and it is a little to quite.


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Upgrade 4.6.35 AVG not scanning - FIX

2009-06-01 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
David, this log excerpt seems to indicate that my AVG hasn't been
working since May 1st 2009. Is this correct?
 
C:\IMail\Spoolgrep -c smd Scanned: Error in virus scanner vir.log
vir0401.log:0
vir0402.log:0
vir0403.log:0
vir0404.log:0
vir0405.log:0
vir0406.log:0
vir0407.log:0
vir0408.log:0
vir0409.log:0
vir0410.log:0
vir0411.log:0
vir0412.log:0
vir0413.log:0
vir0414.log:0
vir0415.log:0
vir0416.log:0
vir0417.log:0
vir0418.log:0
vir0419.log:0
vir0420.log:0
vir0421.log:0
vir0422.log:0
vir0423.log:0
vir0424.log:0
vir0425.log:0
vir0426.log:0
vir0427.log:0
vir0428.log:0
vir0429.log:0
vir0430.log:0
vir0501.log:2722
vir0502.log:640
vir0503.log:623
vir0504.log:3143
vir0505.log:2885
vir0506.log:2568
vir0507.log:2761
vir0508.log:2554
vir0509.log:386
vir0510.log:415
vir0511.log:3110
vir0512.log:2920
vir0513.log:2761
vir0514.log:2771
vir0515.log:2429
vir0516.log:300
vir0517.log:376
vir0518.log:857
vir0519.log:2605
vir0520.log:2793
vir0521.log:2574
vir0522.log:2598
vir0523.log:279
vir0524.log:430
vir0525.log:2630
vir0526.log:2751
vir0527.log:3217
vir0528.log:3026
vir0529.log:2532
vir0530.log:336
vir0531.log:608
vir0601.log:1894

 
 
Andrew.
 



From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of
David Barker
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:38 PM
To: declude.junkm...@declude.com; declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Upgrade 4.6.35 AVG not scanning - FIX



If your AVG is not scanning emails, please upgrade immediately to 4.6.35
which is available from the Declude website.

 

If you are unsure whether this means you, we suggest you upgrade, if you
need any assistance in this matter please contact supp...@declude.com

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
dbar...@declude.com mailto:dbar...@declude.com 

 


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Upgrade 4.6.35 AVG not scanning - FIX

2009-06-01 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Aha! That was a fishy circumstance. Those errors were red herrings
raised by my other virus scanner, not the AVG scanner.
 
If anybody is interested, this is what the log lines looked like at the
last time that AVG triggered on a virus was April 3rd, 2009:
 
04/03/2009 08:54:05.047 Q003993048.smd Vulnerability flags = 2047
04/03/2009 08:54:05.047 Q003993048.smd MIME file: [text/html][8bit;
Length=2371 Checksum=206516]
04/03/2009 08:54:05.062 Q003993048.smd MIME file: postcard.zip [base64;
Length=449806 Checksum=56953283]
04/03/2009 08:54:05.062 Q003993048.smd Banning .ZIP file with SCR
extension.
04/03/2009 08:54:07.501 Q003993048.smd AVG Reports VIRUS: Win32/Cryptor
04/03/2009 08:54:07.501 Q003993048.smd File(s) are INFECTED
[Win32/Cryptor: 7]
04/03/2009 08:54:08.220 Q003993048.smd Virus scanner 1 reports exit code
of 0
04/03/2009 08:54:08.345 Q003993048.smd Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS
[Prescan OK][MIME: 2 452321]
04/03/2009 08:54:08.345 Q003993048.smd From: postca...@hallmark.com
mailto:postca...@hallmark.com  To: snip
mailto:mcpie...@bentall.com  [outgoing from 69.156.243.37]
04/03/2009 08:54:08.345 Q003993048.smd Subject: You've received A
Hallmark E-Card!
 
There were three of those, and otherwise I had no detections, and no
interesting messages from AVG or with error in the log line.
 
After stopping the DecludeProc service, then replacing decludeproc.exe
with the Imail version, decludeproc_IM4635.exe as decludeproc.exe, and
then restarting the DecludeProc service, I can then send a test email
with the EICAR test virus as an attachment, and AVG does pick it up.
 
06/01/2009 18:11:11.305 Q000595199.smd Vulnerability flags = 2047
06/01/2009 18:11:11.305 Q000595199.smd MIME file: eicar.com [base64;
Length=68 Checksum=6829]
06/01/2009 18:11:13.711 Q000595199.smd AVG Reports VIRUS: EICAR_Test
06/01/2009 18:11:13.711 Q000595199.smd File(s) are INFECTED [EICAR_Test:
7]
06/01/2009 18:11:13.727 Q000595199.smd Found a bogus .com file
06/01/2009 18:11:13.727 Q000595199.smd Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS [MIME:
2 157]
06/01/2009 18:11:13.727 Q000595199.smd From: snip
mailto:acolb...@bentall.com  To: snip mailto:acolb...@bentall.com
[outgoing from snip]
06/01/2009 18:11:13.727 Q000595199.smd Subject: test 03
 
 
Andrew.
 
 
 



From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of
David Barker
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 2:00 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Upgrade 4.6.35 AVG not scanning - FIX



Not for everyone, but certainly for your server that would be true if
that is what your logs indicate.

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of
Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 4:03 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Upgrade 4.6.35 AVG not scanning - FIX

 

David, this log excerpt seems to indicate that my AVG hasn't been
working since May 1st 2009. Is this correct?

 

C:\IMail\Spoolgrep -c smd Scanned: Error in virus scanner vir.log
vir0401.log:0
vir0402.log:0
vir0403.log:0
vir0404.log:0
vir0405.log:0
vir0406.log:0
vir0407.log:0
vir0408.log:0
vir0409.log:0
vir0410.log:0
vir0411.log:0
vir0412.log:0
vir0413.log:0
vir0414.log:0
vir0415.log:0
vir0416.log:0
vir0417.log:0
vir0418.log:0
vir0419.log:0
vir0420.log:0
vir0421.log:0
vir0422.log:0
vir0423.log:0
vir0424.log:0
vir0425.log:0
vir0426.log:0
vir0427.log:0
vir0428.log:0
vir0429.log:0
vir0430.log:0
vir0501.log:2722
vir0502.log:640
vir0503.log:623
vir0504.log:3143
vir0505.log:2885
vir0506.log:2568
vir0507.log:2761
vir0508.log:2554
vir0509.log:386
vir0510.log:415
vir0511.log:3110
vir0512.log:2920
vir0513.log:2761
vir0514.log:2771
vir0515.log:2429
vir0516.log:300
vir0517.log:376
vir0518.log:857
vir0519.log:2605
vir0520.log:2793
vir0521.log:2574
vir0522.log:2598
vir0523.log:279
vir0524.log:430
vir0525.log:2630
vir0526.log:2751
vir0527.log:3217
vir0528.log:3026
vir0529.log:2532
vir0530.log:336
vir0531.log:608
vir0601.log:1894

 

 

Andrew.

 

 



From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of
David Barker
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:38 PM
To: declude.junkm...@declude.com; declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Upgrade 4.6.35 AVG not scanning - FIX

If your AVG is not scanning emails, please upgrade immediately to 4.6.35
which is available from the Declude website.

 

If you are unsure whether this means you, we suggest you upgrade, if you
need any assistance in this matter please contact supp...@declude.com

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
dbar...@declude.com mailto:dbar...@declude.com 

 


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RE: [Declude.Virus] AVG Update

2008-12-29 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
That's very good news, David.
 
I suggest an entry on the Declude.com website, either public or in the
members' account area, that shows the current datestamp for when an
update was made available on the Declude.com webserver, and if relevant,
the update number that AVG gets it.
 
In this way, those who are out of date can see directly how far out of
date they are, and whether the problem is on their end, such as the
maintenance agreement being out of date.
 
The update number would only be of interest to users of other AVG
software, and who are perhaps used to going to the AVG website.
 
In that area of the website would also be a link to a support article
which describes the update cycle (from the point of view of a person
maintaining their Declude installation) and the entry in the declude.cfg
file.
 
 
Andrew.
 
 
 



From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of
David Barker
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 12:48 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] AVG Update



I have tracked the issue. The process used to be automated but from what
I understand  some server changes were made and we are currently running
in manual mode, hence the reason for some delays over the holidays. I
will have this resolved and on an automated procedure with failover
checking asap. (I will have to plan this but for now I am thinking no
later than end of  January). Although we have many to do's on our list
this is a high priority. If there are any suggestions around this
procedure - post them to the list , I cannot promise on suggestions but
there may be something we can do.

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
dbar...@declude.com mailto:dbar...@declude.com 

 


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Force AVG update

2008-12-27 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
The updates are currently 4 days behind... I believe that fetching and
approving the updates from AVG, then publishing them on the Declude
server is a manual process that Declude support staff must perform, and
that it's not a reliable process.

I think it best that we consider the AVG scanner to be ok at best and
if we want very good we need to invest the money and CPU time in at
least one other scanner engine.


Andrew.




-Original Message-
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 9:00 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Force AVG update


Hi,

The general experience has been (as reported by several individuals in
two
different lists over the past 3 months), that the Declude AVG updates
are
frequently 48 hours behind - which means they are only effective for
old
viruses. I even posted the stats for several days where it showed that
every
few days new viruses were being caught by my secondary scanner (McAfee),
which truly does have hourly updates - and would have been passed
through to
my desktops if I had relied on Decludes AVG scanner.

I have the feeling that changing your poll time from 4 hours to 2 will
only
mean that you'll be finding out twice as often that they have a 2-day
old
update.

I'm curious what the answer is - but somewhere in the back of my head I
think I had previously read that Declude will occasionally get updates
from
AVG which in turn you get from them. If my recollection/understanding is
accurate, then the real frequency is controlled by Declude's server,
not
yours.

Best Regards,
Andy

-Original Message-
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of
David
Dodell
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 10:00 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Force AVG update

Anyway to force declude to update the AVG files ... my dates run from  
12/17 to 12/23 ... are these really current dates?

David

(I have my update frequency set at every 2 hrs)


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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG

2008-06-23 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
For what it's worth, I never move messages from HOLD to SPOOL. When I do
move false positives out, I fix the problem in my configuration, so that
the same circumstance doesn't happen again, and then I move the files
from the HOLD to the PROC folder.
 
By re-scanning them, they get virus scanned and I am sure that I have
saved time by getting spam scanned as well; it would cost me more time
to repeat the procedure next time than it takes me to override my text
filters and re-queue the messages now.
 
Very few messages get pulled out of the HOLD folder, so not scanning
those messages for viruses saves me a lot of processing power.
 
 
Andrew.
 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David Barker
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:00 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG



Correct if you send held email directly to the spool there is a
potential for a virus to bypass if running AVAFTERJM this is why it is
important to correct the issue that caused the false positive then
reprocess via Declude. OR alternately ensure you virus scan your HOLD
folders.

 

If you are asking to only to apply AVAFTERJM only to Deleted emails this
would reduce it's effectiveness as not every Declude customer uses
Delete. 


David

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bonno Bloksma
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:30 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG

 

Hi David,

 

Could you explain this:

We have chosen not to do this otherwise your users will end up with
viruses in their junkmail folders

 

By NOT scanning held junkmail the virus WILL end up in a users mailbox
if I have to reque the mail because it was a FP. Of course you don't
have to scan deleted mail.

 

Met vriendelijke groet,
Bonno Bloksma
hoofd systeembeheer

 

tio hogeschool hospitality en toerisme 

begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   / www.tio.nl
http://www.tio.nl/  

- Original Message - 

From: David Barker mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

To: declude.virus@declude.com 

Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:28 PM

Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG

 

Dear Bonno,

 

It is not that we can't do this. We have chosen not to do this
otherwise your users will end up with viruses in their junkmail folders.


 

AVAFTERJM will skip messages on DELETE and HOLD actions only.

 

David

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Bonno Bloksma
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:20 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG

 

Hi,

 

(Open mail request)

Dear Declude people.

 

I have asked this before and with the current spam levels kan we
PLEASE have this feature now ASAP? We all want to use AVAFTERJM but
could you PLEASE make it scan all mail which is not deleted?

If that is a to big step at first becasue of all the possible
copy, routeto, etc statements can we at least have it for the HOLD
action asap?

 

Met vriendelijke groet,
Bonno Bloksma
hoofd systeembeheer

 

tio hogeschool hospitality en toerisme 

begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   / www.tio.nl
http://www.tio.nl  

- Original Message - 

From: Kevin Bilbee
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

To: declude.virus@declude.com 

Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 5:25 PM

Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG

 

Be careful with this setting. If a message gets held as
spam it will not be
virus scanned. Make sure you scan any message moved back
into the delivery
queue for viruses before placing it in the delivery
queue folder.



Kevin Bilbee

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of
 Darin Cox
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 6:10 AM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-PROT 6 vs ClamAV SOSDG
 
 AVAFTERJM has been around a long time.  I don't
remember what version,
 but
 it was a 1.x version.
 
 Are you familiar with the setting?  It tells Declude
to run Anti-Virus
 after
 Junkmail.  It then only runs AV after checking to see
if the message is
 spam.  

RE: [Declude.Virus] bloodhound exploit 163 - Slipping Through

2007-10-26 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Try this on for size:

http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/1303.html
 
 
 Malicious PDF file (report.pdf or debt.2007.pdf or
overdraft.2007.10.26.pdf or so) has been massively spammed through email
during last hour and the spam run is still continuing.


Andrew.


 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Don Brown
 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 1:54 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] bloodhound exploit 163 - Slipping Through
 
 A customer running Norton reports receiving several infected 
 e-mails today.
 
 We are only running the built-in AVG scanner at this time, which isn't
 catching this new virus.
 
 The Symantec site is not too helpful about the characteristics, which
 would better enable writing a filter.
 
 http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=20
 07-102318-0451-99
 
 Our customer reports they show: From: Lorena Bernal, Subject:
 Statement of retained earnings  However, no doubt there are other
 variants.
 
 They are caught upon receipt by his Norton anti-virus and quarantined,
 so he really can't (and I don't want him to) supply more info.
 
 Anyone else noticing this virus slipping through?
 
 Any suggestions appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts(r)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.inetconcepts.net
 (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus]

2007-07-12 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Brief, and to to the point.

 

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 Behalf Of Marc Catuogno
 Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 11:54 AM
 To: Declude Virus
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] 
 
 
 
 Marc Catuogno
 MIS Director
 Prudential Rand Realty
 845-825-8025
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RE: [Declude.Virus] FYI Storm worm mutates to incorporate Independence Day text

2007-07-04 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
If you care about the previous subject lines listed at the SANS ISC for
this worm, you'll be interested in knowing that they've added six more
this morning:
 
http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=3090
 
 
Andrew.
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 1:23 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] FYI Storm worm mutates to incorporate
Independence Day text


It has been updated to broadcast text that incorporates 4th of
July celebratory text.  See:
 
http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=3090
 
 
Andrew.
 
 
 
 

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RE: [Declude.Virus] More info about encrypted RAR virus and Declude failures

2007-05-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Without offering up the exact how-to, I can point out that the SIZE test
and a BODY CONTAINS combination would likely help in Declude JunkMail,
and that you would have to stop banning RAR files in Declude EVA.

Judicious use of the SIZE test would help Gary to HOLD only small RAR
files, whether encrypted or not.

Meanwhile, a strategy of chasing BODY and SUBJECT lines in Declude
JunkMail text filters would help to target this worm, as this family
heavily recycles their own text.  Using 

BODY CONTAINS Subject: yadda

Fragments also helps to catch annoying blowback as your users get
automatic responses from 3rd party email servers that naively believed
the MAILFROM was not a fake.

Andrew.





 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of David Barker
 Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:07 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] More info about encrypted RAR 
 virus and Declude failures
 
 Yes I apologize I only realized the next day (Saturday) that 
 this would not work because the message will be scanned if it 
 is under a HOLD or DELETE threshold.
 
 David 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Gary Steiner
 Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:03 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] More info about encrypted RAR 
 virus and Declude failures
 
 I am confused as to how this would work, as BANEXT RAR in EVA 
 will hold those files regardless of the weight.
 
 Has anyone worked out a way to ban small RAR files that would 
 contain the virus, and pass large RAR files that most likely 
 would not?
 
 I'm trying to find a work around until Declude figures out 
 how to detect encrypted RAR files.  Right now I'm banning all 
 RAR files, then have to go in and manually re-submit the 
 legitimate RAR files that my customers are sending.
 
 Gary
 
 
 
  Original Message 
  From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:52 PM
  To: declude.virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] More info about encrypted RAR 
 virus and 
  Declude failures
  
  You may be able to do something with the MSGSIZE test in 
 conjunction 
  with AVAFTERJM ON eg.
  
  SIZE-10MB   msgsize 10240   x
 -50   0
  
  David Barker
  VP Operations  |  Declude
  Your Email Security is our business
  O: 978.499.2933  x7007
  F: 978.988.1311   
  E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Gary Steiner
  Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 4:25 PM
  To: declude.virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] More info about encrypted RAR 
 virus and 
  Declude failures
  
  It's not that difficult.  The legitimate messages with rar 
 attachments 
  are big (usually 10MB and up) so it's not hard to separate 
 them from 
  the image spam and common viruses being held in the virus directory.
  
  As mentioned by Craig in an earlier post, it would be nice 
 if Declude 
  added the capability to skip banning on files of large size.
  
  
  
   Original Message 
   From: John T \(lists\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 3:56 PM
   To: declude.virus@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] More info about encrypted 
 RAR virus and 
   Declude failures
   
Until Declude resolves the issue with BANEXT EZIP, I've 
 had to ban 
all rar files.  Unfortunately some of my customers 
 regularly send 
rar attachments, so I've had to check the virus hold 
 directory on 
a regular basis and manually resubmit any false positives there.

Gary
   
   Instead of manually checking for legit files, use the BANEXT.eml 
   file to send a postmaster message that you get and/or the 
 recipient 
   and/or sender get and that notice can be reviewed a lot 
 easier than 
   manually checking the hold directory.
   
   John T
   
   
   
   
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[Declude.Virus] Interesting notes on recent virus activity from Kaspersky

2007-05-01 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
http://www.viruslist.com/en/weblog?calendar=2007-04
 
 
For example, here is point 8 of 10:
 
*   Most Common Malicious Program in Email Traffic -
Email-Worm.Win32.NetSky.q
http://www.viruslist.com/en/viruses/encyclopedia?virusid=22760 , which
has been around for years, but still managed to account for 14% of all
malicious email traffic in March, which just goes to show that the older
malware is still going strong.
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Interesting notes on recent virus activity from Kaspersky

2007-05-01 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I think the prevalence of an old email virus is two things:

1) It shows that people who were infected, stayed infected.

That's a non-trivial point; there have been several wars by the
backdoor gangs as they clean rival infections out to take sole
p0wnership of a box.

2) Since those infections send out email, it shows that a sucker is born
every minute.

There are new infectees, but the message is the same from the old worm,
new recipients are falling for an old line.

Andrew 8)

p.s. Check out the link for the NetSky variant, this particular worm
packs a lot of features, all it needs is a rootkit to complement the
other defense mechanisms.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Gary Steiner
 Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 10:49 AM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: re: [Declude.Virus] Interesting notes on recent 
 virus activity from Kaspersky
 
 Or does this show that there are too many people out there 
 who don't have anti-virus software on their computers?
 
 
  Original Message 
  From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 1:11 PM
  To: declude.virus@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] Interesting notes on recent virus activity 
  from Kaspersky
  
  http://www.viruslist.com/en/weblog?calendar=2007-04
   
   
  For example, here is point 8 of 10:
   
  *   Most Common Malicious Program in Email Traffic -
  Email-Worm.Win32.NetSky.q
  http://www.viruslist.com/en/viruses/encyclopedia?virusid=22760 , 
  which has been around for years, but still managed to 
 account for 14% 
  of all malicious email traffic in March, which just goes to 
 show that 
  the older malware is still going strong.
   
   
  Andrew.
   
   
   
   
   
  
  
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RE: [Declude.Virus] new virus with .rar attachment

2007-04-26 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Gary, you beat them by a day with your own assessment, but Symantec
blogged about this virus twice today:

http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/security_response/weblog/2007/04/spam
_attack_rared_trojan.html

An interesting point is that they have blocked 1.2 million messages by
tackling the text of the message as spam.

Andrew.
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Gary Steiner
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:31 AM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] new virus with .rar attachment
 
 I started getting some messages today that were picked up as 
 spam, but were not being identified as viruses.  They looked 
 suspicious, having subject lines of
 
 Virus Activity Detected!
 Spyware Alert!
 
 It containes a .gif message that tells the user to open the 
 .rar file and run the patch there to protect them from the 
 virus/spyware.
 
 I ran it on www.virustotal.com, and the only scanner that 
 picked it up was McAfee, and it identified it as W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
 http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_142094.htm
 
 Since this a password protected .rar file, should we now be 
 blocking these?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] virus via e-mail getting rare

2007-03-26 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Virus via email is dwindling, but not dying.
 
I regularly see scams reported where people are asked to open the
attachment, which purports to be some purpose but is of course a virus.
 
For example:
 
http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/#1149
 
From my own content, I see that old viruses are not dying out; people
who are infected tend to stay infected.  I suspect this is for multiple
reasons, e.g. malware reports to their ISP are ignored, and many
families of malware deliberately break the installed antivirus
application, so subsequent pattern updates will never catch the malware
that is already installed.
 
I also use AVAFTERMJM in my Declude.Virus config file, because I find
that my content is generally spam or ham, and not viral.  Most of my
inbound viruses are caught as spam.  To get more accurate stats, I
nightly virus scan my spam HOLD folder for today's spam, then record the
counts.
 
I'm attaching a graph in PNG format of the last 6 months of traffic.  No
fancy tools here, just manually pasting the daily values into Excel and
making a chart.
 
You can see that almost all of virus catching is either custom Declude
filters to catch outbreaks of certain viruses, e.g. a specific SUBJECT
or BODY text, or general spamminess, such as lighting up DYNA blacklists
and having BADHEADERS with enough weight to HOLD the message.
 
I don't use a greylisting or tarpitting front-end MTA like Alligate but
if I did, I suspect that my inbound virus counts would be much lower, as
I expect that all of these old virus SMTP libraries will not survive the
greylisting or tarpitting, so the actual virus payload will not make it
inbound to my Declude software for spam and virus scanning.
 
Andrew 8)
 
 





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Bonno Bloksma
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 5:38 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] virus via e-mail getting rare


Hi,
 
Is virus via e-mail a dying breed? There are days where I
barely get any virusses via e-mail. Most of what get's caught is
malfomed mail, 99% spam.
 
I just did a test to see if my virusscanners are still working
correctly, eicar is still being caught by both F-prot and Sophos so all
seems to be woking. Both scanners are also correctly updating their
database.


Met vriendelijke groet,
Bonno Bloksma
hoofd systeembeheer


tio hogeschool hotelmanagement en toerisme 
begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   / www.tio.nl
http://www.tio.nl  

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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Version 6

2007-03-13 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
 F-prot is $50 for 10 licenses per year.  $5 per machine per 
 year.  Version 6
 
 Why is that not still reasonable?

Because that is not the correct price.

Following the product link on their home page:

http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/

At the bottom it says:

To use the F-PROT Antivirus scanner on a Windows Mail Server a F-PROT
Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers license is required. This license
category differs from the general F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for
corporate users license in that it covers use that the general license
does not: F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail
servers, mail relays and mail gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail
services to a network, either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail.

High-quality, efficient virus scanning is essential for any mail server.
E-mail is the most common way for viruses and other malware to spread.
The most effective way of stopping the spread of malware onto a network
and beyond is at the server. F-PROT Antivirus for Windows on Mail
Servers includes a Command Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used
with third party mail server software such as Declude and MailEnable.
Information on how to use the software with such programs can be found
on www.declude.com and www.mailenable.com

If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail
Servers, please visit our order form and take a look at our price
lists.

Following the price list link to:

http://www.f-prot.com/products/prices/price_win_ms.html

Which has this table:

F-PROT Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers
Number of Users Annual license fee
1-24  US$ 269
25-49   US$ 359
50-99   US$ 449
100-199 US$ 719
200-299 US$ 989
300-399 US$ 1259
400-499 US$ 1529
500-749 US$ 1799
750-999 US$ 2069
1000-1999   US$ 2519
2000-2999   US$ 2969
3000-3999   US$ 3419
4000-4999   US$ 3869
5000-5999   US$ 4499

How many mailboxes do you have?  $50 won't cover it.

Andrew.

p.s. The recently released v6 went to v6.0.6.1 on March 7th 2007.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Douglas Cohn
 Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 8:50 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Version 6
 
 F-prot is $50 for 10 licenses per year.  $5 per machine per 
 year.  Version 6
 
 Why is that not still reasonable?
 
 Please explain
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
 Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:33 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Version 6
 
 Changed when they released the new version. About 3 months 
 back. Check the archives of this list. We were complaining 
 about it. We dumped using their product and just use the AVG 
 built into Declude.
 
 
 
 Kevin Bilbee
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:33 PM
  To: declude.virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Version 6
  
  When did their licensing change?  F-Prot used to be extremely 
  reasonable.
  
  Don
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Kevin Bilbee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.virus@declude.com
  Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 11:14 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Version 6
  
  
   Read the license. It may be compatible but the licensing is
  expensive.
  
  
   Kevin Bilbee
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 On Behalf Of 
   David Dodell
   Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:26 PM
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Version 6
  
   Been using F-Prot version 3 for years ... and now 
 getting notices 
   to upgrade to version 6.
  
   Anyone done this yet, and is it still compatible with 
   Declude/Imail, etc?
  
   David
  
  
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Current Version of Clam AV

2007-03-01 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
My two cents (I don't run ClamAV)...

Observations:

- .vir directories are orphaned
- .vir directories are locked by something and can not be deleted
without stopping some service(s)
- .vir directories are only created on Scott's system when ClamAV is
run as a service and Sandy's runclamscan.exe is invoked by Declude

My guess is that ClavAV is not finishing the processing of these
messages, that Declude would then kill after 10 minutes* the only part
it knows about, runclamscan.exe, leaving the ClamAV service still
processing/locking the directory or files in that directory.

The ClamAV service may be trying to contact the dead runclamscan.exe
instance, and can't, and thus does not let go of whatever it's locking.

Can anyone affected confirm the killing the external app behaviour by
examining the name of a .vir directory, and look up the loglines in
the appropriate decMMDD.log or virMMDD.log file with find or grep?

That won't necessarily help resolve it, but it may help clarify the
symptoms.

If the client is being killed, there are at least two causes:

1) the ClamAV service or runclamscan.exe client are not getting enough
CPU time because your mailserver is very busy and are unable to finish
within 10 minutes*.

2) the ClamAV service is stalling as it tries to scan or decode a
certain email or file and is a bug in ClamAV (there have been several,
as with other antivirus software).  This could be verified by stopping
the service, and then trying to scan the same .vir folder again
manually, invoking the ClamAV directly, as well as the service via
runclamscan.exe and seeing if either method hangs reproducibly, and then
report the samples as bad to the ClamAV development team.


Andrew.

* I think that 10 minutes is the correct timeout for an external app,
after which Declude will kill the external app.





 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Scott Fisher
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:05 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Current Version of Clam AV
 
 I definitely still getting them with Clam .90
 
 They only happen here when I run clamav as a service. When I 
 run it as a non-service (which is CPU foolish), I don't get these.
 
 I also use the clamscan wrapper (runclamscan.exe), so that 
 might be in the mix.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Current Version of Clam AV
 
 
 Does anyone want to comment on what might be causing the 
 error?  Is this a 
 ClamAV problem or a Declude problem?  It seems that the 
 normal mechanism for 
 deleting those files is somehow interrupted.  Is there a way 
 in Declude to 
 increase the time allocated to each antivirus process?
 
 Though since I upgraded to SOSDG's version 0.90-1, I haven't seen any 
 leftover .vir directories.
 
 
  Original Message 
  From: Brian T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:53 AM
  To: declude.virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Current Version of Clam AV
 
  Does anyone know of a way to fix this problem with the 
 leftover .vir 
  directories?
 
  I was thinking about switching to ClamAV from F-Prot but 
 don't want to 
  constantly be cleaning up leftover files.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Brian
- Original Message - 
From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Current Version of Clam AV
 
 
In my normal maintenance window (once a week) all 
 services are stopped 
  and I clean out the work, error, proc, spool, and review 
 folders.  Since I 
  stop CLAMAV as well I am able to delete those directories.
 
Darrell
 

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 integration, 
  MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Stephan
  To: declude.virus@declude.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Current Version of Clam AV
 
 
  Thanks for responding. I can't delete them until I 
 restart the ClamAV 
  service. Do you have a way of automatically deleting them, 
 or do you 
  schedule a task to restart ClamAV and then delete them? I 
 tried using a 
  schedule task but for some reason they still don't get 
 deleted (but it's 
  possible to do it manually.)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent 2/27/2007 10:17:46 AM
  To: declude.virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Current Version of Clam AV
 
  ?
  FWIW - I have always had left over directories from .84 on up.
 
  Darrell

RE: [Declude.Virus] Any one heard about or seen this one yet?

2007-01-19 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Yes, and it should be old news by now.

http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=2071

The end of the page lists the four executables to ban, if you don't
trust your antivirus software, i.e.

#Jan-18-2007 AC New fake news clips virus called Small.Dam by F-Secure
and W32/Downloader.AYDY by F-Prot
BANNAME Full Clip.exe
BANNAME Read More.exe
BANNAME Full Story.exe
BANNAME Video.exe


Andrew 8)



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 Behalf Of Heimir Eidskrem
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:02 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Any one heard about or seen this one yet?
 
 
 Storm Worm Hits Computers Around the World By  Reuters 
 January 19, 2007
 
 HELSINKI (Reuters)-Computer virus writers started to use 
 raging European storms on Friday to attack thousands of 
 computers in an unusual real-time assault, head of research 
 at Finnish data security firm F-Secure told Reuters.
 
 The virus, which the company named Storm Worm, is sent to 
 hundreds of thousands of e-mail addresses globally, with the 
 e-mail's subject line saying 230 dead as storm batters Europe.
 
 The attached file contains the so-called malware that can 
 infiltrate computer systems.
 
 What makes this exceptional is the timely nature of the 
 attack, Mikko Hypponen, head of research at F-Secure said. 
 Hypponen said thousands of computers around the world, most 
 in private use, had been affected.
 
 He said most users would not notice the malware, or trojan, 
 which creates a back door to the computer that can be 
 exploited later to steal data or to use the computer to post spam
 
 
 
 Regards,
 Dennis Curry
 System Administrator
 SNC-Lavalin GDS
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Any one heard about or seen this one yet?

2007-01-19 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
And an alternative writeup from Symantec, with more details on the
results of an infection, and with executables nobody else has mentioned.

http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/security_response/weblog/2007/01/troj
anpeacomm_building_a_peert.html


Andrew 8)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 1:01 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Any one heard about or seen this one yet?
 
 Yes, and it should be old news by now.
 
 http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=2071
 
 The end of the page lists the four executables to ban, if you 
 don't trust your antivirus software, i.e.
 
 #Jan-18-2007 AC New fake news clips virus called Small.Dam by 
 F-Secure and W32/Downloader.AYDY by F-Prot BANNAME Full 
 Clip.exe BANNAME Read More.exe BANNAME Full Story.exe BANNAME 
 Video.exe
 
 
 Andrew 8)
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Heimir Eidskrem
  Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:02 PM
  To: declude.virus@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] Any one heard about or seen this one yet?
  
  
  Storm Worm Hits Computers Around the World By  Reuters January 19, 
  2007
  
  HELSINKI (Reuters)-Computer virus writers started to use raging 
  European storms on Friday to attack thousands of computers in an 
  unusual real-time assault, head of research at Finnish data 
 security 
  firm F-Secure told Reuters.
  
  The virus, which the company named Storm Worm, is sent to 
 hundreds 
  of thousands of e-mail addresses globally, with the 
 e-mail's subject 
  line saying 230 dead as storm batters Europe.
  
  The attached file contains the so-called malware that can 
 infiltrate 
  computer systems.
  
  What makes this exceptional is the timely nature of the attack, 
  Mikko Hypponen, head of research at F-Secure said.
  Hypponen said thousands of computers around the world, most 
 in private 
  use, had been affected.
  
  He said most users would not notice the malware, or trojan, which 
  creates a back door to the computer that can be exploited later to 
  steal data or to use the computer to post spam
  
  
  
  Regards,
  Dennis Curry
  System Administrator
  SNC-Lavalin GDS
  
  
  
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Any one heard about or seen this one yet?

2007-01-19 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
New variations have arisen... No surprise there, either.

http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=2071

No word on new explicit filenames, yet.

Andrew 8)


 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 1:15 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Any one heard about or seen this one yet?
 
 And an alternative writeup from Symantec, with more details 
 on the results of an infection, and with executables nobody 
 else has mentioned.
 
 http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/security_response/weblog/20
 07/01/troj
 anpeacomm_building_a_peert.html
 
 
 Andrew 8)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Colbeck, Andrew
  Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 1:01 PM
  To: declude.virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Any one heard about or seen 
 this one yet?
  
  Yes, and it should be old news by now.
  
  http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=2071
  
  The end of the page lists the four executables to ban, if you don't 
  trust your antivirus software, i.e.
  
  #Jan-18-2007 AC New fake news clips virus called Small.Dam 
 by F-Secure 
  and W32/Downloader.AYDY by F-Prot BANNAME Full Clip.exe 
 BANNAME Read 
  More.exe BANNAME Full Story.exe BANNAME Video.exe
  
  
  Andrew 8)
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of 
   Heimir Eidskrem
   Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:02 PM
   To: declude.virus@declude.com
   Subject: [Declude.Virus] Any one heard about or seen this one yet?
   
   
   Storm Worm Hits Computers Around the World By  Reuters 
 January 19, 
   2007
   
   HELSINKI (Reuters)-Computer virus writers started to use raging 
   European storms on Friday to attack thousands of computers in an 
   unusual real-time assault, head of research at Finnish data 
  security 
   firm F-Secure told Reuters.
   
   The virus, which the company named Storm Worm, is sent to 
  hundreds 
   of thousands of e-mail addresses globally, with the 
  e-mail's subject 
   line saying 230 dead as storm batters Europe.
   
   The attached file contains the so-called malware that can 
  infiltrate 
   computer systems.
   
   What makes this exceptional is the timely nature of the attack, 
   Mikko Hypponen, head of research at F-Secure said.
   Hypponen said thousands of computers around the world, most 
  in private 
   use, had been affected.
   
   He said most users would not notice the malware, or trojan, which 
   creates a back door to the computer that can be exploited 
 later to 
   steal data or to use the computer to post spam
   
   
   
   Regards,
   Dennis Curry
   System Administrator
   SNC-Lavalin GDS
   
   
   
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[Declude.Virus] Large spam run of malware in Germany?

2007-01-14 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
If you allow .exe in Declude Virus product, you may want to add:

BANNAME RechnungGEZ.pdf.exe

to your virus.cfg file.  See this antivirus company's blog entry:

http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/#1080

There's a fairly large malware spam run going on in Germany.

The emails claim to be from GEZ, the local TV permit authority. The mail
contains a bill for 445,99e for unpaid TV watching licenses.

The attachment, of course, is an executable: RechnungGEZ.pdf.exe. We now
detect this as Trojan-Downloader.Win32.Small.efe.

When run, the attachment shows a fake error message to explain why you
don't see the real bill after opening the attachment: [fake error
message reporting Acrobat 6 - Error Warning 20225]

Andrew.




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RE: [Declude.Virus] I'm currently on a business trip down south and will be returning January 5th, 2007. If t

2007-01-04 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I think I received 36 of them.

Andrew. 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Craig Edmonds
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:55 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] I'm currently on a business trip 
 down south and will be returning January 5th, 2007. If t
 Importance: High
 
  
 Is it me or did everyone get this autoresponder about 300 times? 
 
 Kindest Regards
 Craig Edmonds
 123 Marbella Internet
 W: www.123marbella.com
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of roconnor
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:45 PM
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 Subject: [Declude.Virus] I'm currently on a business trip 
 down south and will be returning January 5th, 2007. If t
 
 I'm currently on a business trip down south and will be 
 returning January 5th, 2007. If this is an emergency please 
 call our office at 360.527.9111
 
 Thanks,
 Rick
 
 
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[Declude.Virus] New virus to add to your banned names in virus.cfg

2006-12-30 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1988

BANNAME Greeting Card.exe
BANNAME Greeting Postcard.exe
BANNAME GreetingCard.exe

Which may be related to a rash these that my mailserver received on Dec
28th, as the executables are the same size but contain may differences:

BANNAME postcard.exe

As of this writing, F-Prot detected neither executable, and Trend Micro
does not yet, unless you use the CPR version to obtain the beta of the
next pattern update.

Andrew.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 6:05 AM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] How to block an IP
 
 Joe,
 
 Just add the IP or CIDR block into the SMTP access control in Imail.
 
 Darrell
 --
 --
 Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for 
 Declude And Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
 SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: J Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 11:06 PM
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] How to block an IP
 
 
 Is there a way to block an IP address before analysis by 
 Declude's AV (Ver
 1.82 - Imail 8.x)?
 
 I thought I should be able to do this with rules.ima by 
 looking for a line
 in the header. So I have a line that says
 H~xxx\.yyy\.zz\.
 but it doesn't work. (In case you can't see it, the lines 
 read \. = slash
 dot per Ipswitch docs) I don't think the H~ (header contains) 
 command reads
 everything in the header.
 
 ~Joe
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New virus to add to your banned names in virus.cfg

2006-12-30 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
p.s. No, the conversation thread at the end of my posting was not
relevant to the antivirus tip, that was simply poor copy and paste on my
part.

Andrew 8)







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RE: [Declude.Virus] New virus to add to your banned names in virus.cfg

2006-12-30 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
 Why not block any .exe attachments?

I don't block .EXE attachments, but that policy may work for others.  In
my company, we find it very common to receive executables in email, as
well as viruses that are plain executables, therefore we neither
silently discard them, nor do we reply to likely spoofed mailfrom, nor
do we annoy the recipient.

I use Declude on a gateway server, and I use Trend Micro ScanMail for
Exchange on my internal servers.  On those internal servers, I scan for
viruses and I ban executable attachments (not the whole message) and
notify the recipient and our Help Centre. From the message body, the
recipient can determine whether the attachment is valid; the Help Centre
could re-send the executable but it would be blocked by Outlook anyway,
so the usual case is then for the recipient to ask the sender to re-send
the executable in a zip file.

 In our system AVG is detecting it.

Shortly before I sent that first message, F-Prot received a pattern
update and was detecting the greeting cards as W32/Tibs.gen4 and the
postcard as W32/Tibs.RA ... And submitting the greeting card to the
Sunbelt malware sandbox showed a huge amount of activity.  I suspect
that this will be a real nuisance for those infected.

Andrew 8)




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Kami Razvan
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:30 AM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New virus to add to your banned 
 names in virus.cfg
 
 Andrew..
 
 Why not block any .exe attachments?
 
 In our system AVG is detecting it.
 
 Kami 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:11 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] New virus to add to your banned 
 names in virus.cfg
 
 
 http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1988
 
 BANNAME Greeting Card.exe
 BANNAME Greeting Postcard.exe
 BANNAME GreetingCard.exe
 
 Which may be related to a rash these that my mailserver 
 received on Dec 28th, as the executables are the same size 
 but contain may differences:
 
 BANNAME postcard.exe
 
 As of this writing, F-Prot detected neither executable, and 
 Trend Micro does not yet, unless you use the CPR version to 
 obtain the beta of the next pattern update.
 
 Andrew.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 6:05 AM
  To: declude.virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] How to block an IP
  
  Joe,
  
  Just add the IP or CIDR block into the SMTP access control in Imail.
  
  Darrell
  --
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  Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude 
  And Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI 
  integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
  
  - Original Message -
  From: J Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.virus@declude.com
  Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 11:06 PM
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] How to block an IP
  
  
  Is there a way to block an IP address before analysis by 
 Declude's AV 
  (Ver
  1.82 - Imail 8.x)?
  
  I thought I should be able to do this with rules.ima by 
 looking for a 
  line in the header. So I have a line that says
  H~xxx\.yyy\.zz\.
  but it doesn't work. (In case you can't see it, the lines read \. = 
  slash dot per Ipswitch docs) I don't think the H~ (header contains) 
  command reads everything in the header.
  
  ~Joe
  
  
  
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RE: [Declude.Virus] AUTOFORGE

2006-10-27 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



I suggested adding STRATION a week or more 
ago.

Likewise, the string

WAREZOV

should be added to the AUTOFORGE database (or your own 
virus.cfg e.g. FORGINGVIRUS WAREZOV). There have been many interations of 
this virus, and according to F-Secure, the creators are still pumping out new 
versions.

Andrew.


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: 
  Friday, October 27, 2006 6:03 AMTo: 'Declude Virus 
  List'Subject: [Declude.Virus] AUTOFORGE
  
  Hi,
  
  is this still 
  being actively maintained?
  
  If so, 
   
  W32/Stration.dldr
  should be added as 
  forging. Based on bounces that I'm seeing (from inbound-only mailboxes on our 
  domain)it is forging the sender.
  Best 
  RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
  (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus?

2006-10-10 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Sounds like a very popular eBay scam, not a virus.

Was there actually a hostile application attached?

Submit the executable to:

http://www.virustotal.com/en/indexf.html

Or:

http://virusscan.jotti.org/

I believe that both services share unknown executables with the
antivirus vendors.

Or you directly submit the executable to your preferred antivirus
vendor, usually through a web submission form, e.g.:

http://subwiz.trendmicro.com/SubWiz/Default.asp

Or:

http://www.f-prot.com/virusinfo/submission_form.html

But the vendor websites are notorious for hoarding information to get a
competitive advantage (at the expense of the customers of every other
antivirus vendor!).

Andrew 8)
  

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Grant Griffith
 Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:21 AM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] New Virus?
 
 Hey All
 
 Has anyone seen the email saying that you purchased a Sony 
 VAIO for $2,500?
 We received a bunch of these this morning in our mailboxes 
 and am trying to figure out how they made it thru the 
 scanners.  What is the place to send them to see if it is 
 begin caught?
 
 Thanks,
 Grant Griffith
 Web Application Developer
 Enhanced Telecommunications
 http://www.etczone.com
 812-932-1000
 
 
 
 
 
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[Declude.Virus] Another forging malware, Scano

2006-10-05 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



Another mass-mailing worm, this time a variant of an .HTA 
attached worm that was first seen in April 2006.

F-Prot users who don't 
want to be bothered by their alerts for this sender-forging-malware can add this 
to their virus.cfg ...

FORGINGVIRUS 
VBS/Scano@

Here are there results of my submission of the attachment 
to http://www.virustotal.com/if 
you see your antivirus scanner and wish to adapt the same line, e.g. for 
ClamAV:

FORGINGVIRUS 
Worm.Scano.



Complete scanning result of 
"Fotos.hta", received in VirusTotal at 10.05.2006, 21:59:18 (CET).




  
  
Antivirus
Version
Update
Result
  
  
AntiVir
7.2.0.22
10.05.2006
no virus found
  
Authentium
4.93.8
10.05.2006
VBS/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
Avast
4.7.892.0
10.05.2006
no virus found
  
AVG
386
10.05.2006
I-Worm/Scano
  
BitDefender
7.2
10.05.2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
CAT-QuickHeal
8.00
10.05.2006
VBS/Scano.E
  
ClamAV
devel-20060426
10.05.2006
Worm.Scano.AH-1
  
DrWeb
4.33
10.05.2006
Win32.HLLM.Perf
  
eTrust-InoculateIT
23.73.14
10.05.2006
VBS/Areses!Worm
  
eTrust-Vet
30.3.3115
10.05.2006
VBS/Areses!generic
  
Ewido
4.0
10.05.2006
no virus found
  
Fortinet
2.82.0.0
10.05.2006
no virus found
  
F-Prot
3.16f
10.04.2006
VBS/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
F-Prot4
4.2.1.29
10.05.2006
VBS/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
Ikarus
0.2.65.0
10.05.2006
no virus found
  
Kaspersky
4.0.2.24
10.05.2006
Email-Worm.Win32.Scano.gen
  
McAfee
4867
10.05.2006
W32/Areses.dr
  
Microsoft
1.1603 
10.05.2006
TrojanDropper:VBS/Scano.gen
  
NOD32v2
1.1791
10.05.2006
Win32/Scano.NBH
  
Norman
5.80.02
10.05.2006
no virus found
  
Sophos
4.10.0
10.05.2006
W32/Bagle-GY
  
Symantec
8.0
10.04.2006
no virus found
  
TheHacker
6.0.1.092
10.05.2006
no virus found
  
UNA
1.83
10.05.2006
no virus found
  
VBA32
3.11.1
10.05.2006
Email-Worm.Win32.Scano.e#6
  
VirusBuster
4.3.7:9
10.05.2006
VBS.Scano.AZ



  
  
Aditional 
Information
  
  
File size: 67370 bytes
  
MD5: cbbae8aa1a224333a17c3051f9afc9b3
  
SHA1: 
18e50e8fe39e20ee0e567e5dfd8f63609ce49d80




Andrew 8)



  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, 
  AndrewSent: Monday, October 02, 2006 5:56 PMTo: 
  declude.virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] stration 
  work
  
  Exactly, John.
  
  I should have stated that better; I supplied both 
  variations because Iassume that some people would prefer the specific 
  line (the first in each sample) and some people would prefer the generic line 
  to catch future variations.
  
  Andrew 8)
  
  
  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T 
(Lists)Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 5:25 PMTo: 
declude.virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] stration 
work


Andrew, wouldnt 
the second line include the first meaning only the second line is 
needed?


John 
T
eServices For 
You

"Seek, and ye 
shall find!"


-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, 
AndrewSent: 
Monday, October 02, 
2006 3:49 
PMTo: 
declude.virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] stration 
work

Those of us still 
running F-Prot* as a primary virus scanner will want to add one or both of 
these to their virus.cfg in order to block notifications for detection of 
the Stration malware:

FORGINGVIRUS 
W32/Tricky-Malware-based!Maximus 
FORGINGVIRUS 
Tricky-Malware-based!

The first is the 
most explicit, and the second is a fragment that will catch future 
detections that are based on heuristics.

And in the unlikely 
event that someone is using Trend Micro OfficeScan or 
SysClean:

FORGINGVIRUS 
Possible_Strat-2
FORGINGVIRUS 
Possible_


Andrew 
8)

* The "new" price 
is unjustifiably high for using fpcmd on a mailserver. Plan to switch 
to a different vendor before you renew this licence.


  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott FisherSent: Monday, October 
  02, 2006 7:27 
  AMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] stration 
  work
  
  It looks like the Stration 
  worm is causing backscatter today:
  
  
  
  The W32/Stration.drvirus 
  drops the mass mailing worm W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]. that 
  uses its own SMTP engine to send itself to the 

RE: [Declude.Virus] Bug in mismatched extensions causes backscatter on spam

2006-10-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



.. I hope that Declude will agree with Matt's point that 
backscatter must be avoided. There is ample precedent,for 
examplein that the BOUNCE action was renamed to BOUNCEONLYIFYOUMUST to 
prevent backscatter.

Andrew.


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell 
  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 5:44 
  AMTo: declude.virus@declude.comSubject: Re: 
  [Declude.Virus] Bug in mismatched extensions causes backscatter on 
  spam
  
  Matt,
  
  I agree with everyone of your points - My intent 
  was to bring it up that I had reported this issue up a long time ago as I also 
  thought that what was happening was undesirable. However, at the time 
  Scott did not feel this was a bug. However, times change and back 
  scatter is a huge issue. Maybe thats enough now to convince for an 
  alteration of behavior. As my preference would be to handle mismatched 
  exe's as its own class of which I would not send bannotify messages 
  for.
  
  Darrell
  Check 
  out http://www.invariantsystems.com for 
  utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue 
  Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Matt 

To: declude.virus@declude.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 8:24 
PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Bug in 
mismatched extensions causes backscatter on spam
Darrell,I'm sure that it is desirable to block (when 
the detection isn't erroring), however having this handled as if it was an 
EXE when it comes to the bannotify.eml is problematic. Backscatter can 
get you blacklisted, not to mention it is annoying to get such things for 
forged E-mail.I have Virus running after JunkMail and still I have 
bounced a dozen of these today alone (which excludes messages that reached 
my DELETE weight). For those that run JunkMail before Virus (the 
default), that number could be in the hundreds or thousands depending on 
volume since this comes from a major zombie spammer. I'm guessing that 
most are bouncing EXE's that aren't detected as viruses.To check 
this, just search your Virus log for "mismatched.exe".The behavior 
needs to be changed so that this doesn't trigger bannotify.eml 
bounces. I am testing using "SKIPIFEXT mismatched.exe" in my 
bannotify.eml to see if that helps, but this should not bounce such messages 
by default as if they were EXE's. It makes sense to give it a unique 
extension for these conditions and let us determine what to do with them 
instead of lumping it together with actions for 
EXE's.MattDarrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote: 

  
  

  I brought this up to Scott several years ago 
  - and he said this is not a bug but a by design issue.He explained a 
  scenario why this was important and I understood based on the explantion 
  but for the life of me I can't remember the scenario.
  Darrell
  
  Check 
  out http://www.invariantsystems.com 
  for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue 
  Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log 
Parsers.
  
- 
Original Message - 
From: 
Matt 

To: 
declude.virus@declude.com 

Sent: 
Sunday, October 01, 2006 3:33 PM
Subject: 
[Declude.Virus] Bug in mismatched extensions causes backscatter on 
spam
I just found this bug. Essentially, if the MIME 
headers for an attachment are mismatched, Declude "assumes" that it is 
an EXE for virus scanning purposes, and this causes EXE triggers such as 
bannotify.eml to be triggered. This is especially bad since it is 
happening fairly commonly on zombie spam.For example, here are 
the MIME headers from the spam sample:
Content-Type: 
  image/jpeg;name="smoky.1.jpg"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 
  base64Content-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Disposition: 
  inline;filename="smoky.1.gi"You will note the 
Content-Type being image/jpeg and the file extension being "gi". 
Here is what Declude Virus finds:
10/01/2006 14:03:44.656 q02f8014a9ecc.smd 
  Vulnerability flags = 86310/01/2006 14:03:44.671 
  q02f8014a9ecc.smd MIME file: [text/html][7bit; Length=590 
  Checksum=51800]10/01/2006 14:03:44.671 q02f8014a9ecc.smd Found 
  file with mismatched extensions [smoky.1.jpg-smoky.1.gi]; assuming 
  .exe10/01/2006 14:03:44.671 q02f8014a9ecc.smd MIME file: 
  mismatched.exe [base64; Length=25644 Checksum=3233585]10/01/2006 
  14:03:44.671 q02f8014a9ecc.smd Banning file with 

RE: [Declude.Virus] stration work

2006-10-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



Those of us still running F-Prot* as a primary virus 
scanner will want to add one or both of these to their virus.cfg in order to 
block notifications for detection of the Stration malware:


FORGINGVIRUS W32/Tricky-Malware-based!Maximus
FORGINGVIRUS Tricky-Malware-based!

The first is the most 
explicit, and the second is a fragment that will catch future detections that 
are based on heuristics.

And in the unlikely event that someone is using Trend Micro 
OfficeScan or SysClean:



FORGINGVIRUS 
Possible_Strat-2
FORGINGVIRUS 
Possible_


Andrew 
8)

* The "new" price is unjustifiably high for using fpcmd on 
a mailserver. Plan to switch to a different vendor before you renew this 
licence.


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott FisherSent: 
  Monday, October 02, 2006 7:27 AMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] stration 
  work
  
  It looks like the Stration worm is causing 
  backscatter today:
  
  The W32/Stration.drvirus drops the 
  mass mailing worm W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]. that uses its own SMTP 
  engine to send itself to the email addresses that it harvests on the infected 
  computer. The W32/Stration.dr is written 
  using Microsoft Visual C++ and also contains functionality to connect to a 
  remote web server to download a file.
  
  I've added it as a forging 
  virus
  FORGINGVIRUSStration
  -Scott 
  FisherDirector of ITFarm Progress Companies191 S Gary AveCarol 
  Stream, IL 60188630-462-2323
  
  This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the 
  intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. 
  Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you 
  are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and 
  destroy all copies of the original message. Although Farm Progress Companies 
  has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this 
  email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising 
  from the use of this email or attachments.
  
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Oversized.RAR FOUND in ClamAV

2006-09-07 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Disclaimer: I haven't implemented ClamAV with Declude, so I'm guessing
here...

It sounds like the max-ratio solution is a red herring.

It sounds like ClamAV returned an error because it couldn't scan the
overlarge file (compressed or not).

It sounds like Gary's configuration is quarantining emails based on any
non-zero return code from ClamAV and that this is not the behaviour he
really wants.

Comments? Flames?

Andrew 8)



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Scott Fisher
 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:02 AM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Oversized.RAR FOUND in ClamAV
 
 I used (and probably posted the --max-ratio 0 ).
 
 The max-ratio defines the maximum compression ratio for 
 scanned files. I kept getting legit text files that were 
 zipped that were over ratio, so that's why I why I went to 
 the max-ration 0.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Gary Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 9:31 PM
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Oversized.RAR FOUND in ClamAV
 
 
 I have an email that was held as a virus after ClamAV was 
 triggered with the 
 result Oversized.RAR FOUND.  I looked for an explanation 
 but couldn't find 
 anything detailed.  Apparently this is due to some type of 
 bug in ClamAV 
 that shows up with certain RAR or ZIP files.
 
 I found one posting that suggested that the problem could be fixed by 
 adjusting the max-ratio value.  The default max-ratio value 
 for ClamAV is 
 250.  The suggested value for running it with Declude is 0.  
 What would be 
 the safest value to run with and why?
 
 Gary
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] new virus?

2006-08-31 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



My logs tell me that we received more than the usual number 
of viruses yesterday. These were split into two groups, a version of Bagle 
that was released back in June, and a new worm which Trend Micro calls 
WORM_STRATION.BD

In the samples I looked at, the messages were fake 
bounces with an executable attachment which had a.dat.pif 
extension.

Here's the writeupon 
that:

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM%5FSTRATION%2EBHVSect=T

Andrew 8)


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen 
  MitchellSent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:01 PMTo: 
  declude.virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] new 
  virus?
  
  
  I am seeing lots 
  of .com attachments blocked with Declude. Random two word subject from 
  many different ip addresses. Is anyone else seeing 
  them?
  
  
  Karen M. MitchellSenior NewMedia Systems 
  AdministratorAccuWeather, Inc.385 Science Park RoadState College, 
  PA 16803814-235-8698"Get the best weather on the web" - 
  http://www.accuweather.com
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RE: [Declude.Virus] new virus?

2006-08-31 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



The Internet Storm Center also notes two 
items...

That a new-ish botnet has been found:

http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1657

Previously, that there is elevated port scanning for 
139/TCP:

http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1654

In that second link,they note two malwares that are 
attacking the "Server" service that Microsoft patched most recently in August 
with MS06-040:

https://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms06-040.mspx


Andrew 8)



  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, 
  AndrewSent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 8:59 AMTo: 
  declude.virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] new 
  virus?
  
  My logs tell me that we received more than the usual 
  number of viruses yesterday. These were split into two groups, a version 
  of Bagle that was released back in June, and a new worm which Trend Micro 
  calls WORM_STRATION.BD
  
  In the samples I looked at, the messages were fake 
  bounces with an executable attachment which had a.dat.pif 
  extension.
  
  Here's the writeupon 
  that:
  
  http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM%5FSTRATION%2EBHVSect=T
  
  Andrew 8)
  
  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen 
MitchellSent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:01 PMTo: 
declude.virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] new 
virus?


I am seeing lots 
of .com attachments blocked with Declude. Random two word subject from 
many different ip addresses. Is anyone else seeing 
them?


Karen M. MitchellSenior NewMedia Systems 
AdministratorAccuWeather, Inc.385 Science Park RoadState 
College, PA 16803814-235-8698"Get the best weather on the web" 
- http://www.accuweather.com
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus: zipped word doc with Macro-Virus

2006-06-28 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Marc, check the contents of your c:\ for 666INSE_1.EXE as this is the
dropper file that the macro drops.  If it's there, the macro was
executed, and the dropper has probably also download further malware.

Modern versions of Office will, by default, not execute the macro so you
might be safe.

I don't know if Symantec has signatures for this document, the dropper
or the payload it downloads.  Trend Micro does, so you could use their
web based HouseCall antivirus scanner from here:

http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

Andrew 8)



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Marc Catuogno
 Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 6:03 AM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus: zipped word doc with 
 Macro-Virus
 
 Um, no making fun here - I opened it.  I thought it was just 
 spam someone forwarded it to my spam account. I didn't find 
 the Trojan downloader on my PC.  I'm ASSUMING that you have 
 to hit the check prices macro button as no macro seemed to 
 auto-execute... 
 
 I just downloaded the intelligent updater for NAV 9 (as the 
 live update button only gave me definitions of the 21st) and 
 am running a scan now.
 
 Remind me not to make so much fun of other people for opening 
 attachments.
 
 Marc
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Markus Gufler
 Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:32 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] New Virus: zipped word doc with Macro-Virus
 
 Some of us has noted in the past two hours that messages with 
 an zip-file as attachment has passed our virus filters
 
 It's a zip-file containing a MS Word Document named my_notebook.doc
 
 Most Virus-Scanners can't catch it. Virustotal has returned 
 only two scanners with positive results
 
 Sophos has found WM97/Kukudro-A 
 UNA has found a Macro Virus
 
 No other AV-Engine has catched the suspicious file.
 
 We've added the following lines to our virus.cfg in order to 
 block as much was we can at the moment.
 
 BANNAME prices.zip
 BANNAME apple_prices.zip
 BANNAME sony_prices.zip
 BANNAME hp_prices.zip
 BANNAME dell_prices.zip
 BANNAME My_Notebook.doc
 
 Regards
 Markus
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus: zipped word doc with Macro-Virus

2006-06-28 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I haven't seen any yet; I don't know if F-Prot is catching them.

From the published information at the antivirus vendors' sites, I'm
using the BANNAME feature, e.g.

BANNAME My_Notebook.doc

And further, I catch most of the viruses as junkmail because they
typically come from zombie machines, so they're heavily IP4R listed.

I do use a SKIPATTACH filter (which I've previously shared on the list,
so it's in the web archive if anyone wants it) and I've lowered the
weight of that.

I don't think this virus is spreading well, it's not receiving much
attention, and Trend Micro's statistics graph is flatlined.  I think if
your mailserver is getting them, you'll continue to get them, otherwise,
it's not very likely.

Andrew 8)


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of John T (Lists)
 Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 1:06 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus: zipped word doc with 
 Macro-Virus
 
 Back to the matter indicated in the subject line, how are 
 others dealing with this?
 
 Is F-Prot and AVG and others catching this now?
 
 Which AV scanners are indeed catching it?
 
 Now for the bigger question: How do we combat this and future 
 such versions without outright blocking of the file 
 extension? We all know that relaying on users to not open 
 attachments is problematic.
 
 John T
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus: zipped word doc with Macro-Virus

2006-06-28 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I don't know where that  character in front of my From sentence came
from.  The first character on that line should have been an F.

It must be some kind of weird auto-quoting software; that character is
not in the email that I sent.

Andrew 8)

 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:14 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus: zipped word doc with 
 Macro-Virus
 
 I haven't seen any yet; I don't know if F-Prot is catching them.
 
 From the published information at the antivirus vendors' sites, I'm
 using the BANNAME feature, e.g.
 
 BANNAME My_Notebook.doc
 
 And further, I catch most of the viruses as junkmail because 
 they typically come from zombie machines, so they're heavily 
 IP4R listed.
 
 I do use a SKIPATTACH filter (which I've previously shared on 
 the list, so it's in the web archive if anyone wants it) and 
 I've lowered the weight of that.
 
 I don't think this virus is spreading well, it's not 
 receiving much attention, and Trend Micro's statistics graph 
 is flatlined.  I think if your mailserver is getting them, 
 you'll continue to get them, otherwise, it's not very likely.
 
 Andrew 8)
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  John T (Lists)
  Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 1:06 PM
  To: declude.virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus: zipped word doc with 
  Macro-Virus
  
  Back to the matter indicated in the subject line, how are others 
  dealing with this?
  
  Is F-Prot and AVG and others catching this now?
  
  Which AV scanners are indeed catching it?
  
  Now for the bigger question: How do we combat this and future such 
  versions without outright blocking of the file extension? 
 We all know 
  that relaying on users to not open attachments is problematic.
  
  John T
  eServices For You
  
  Seek, and ye shall find!
  
  
  
  
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus: zipped word doc with Macro-Virus

2006-06-27 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/archive-062006.html#0909

The writeup is interesting in the follow-on details but the information
that Markus posted earlier is more helpful to us in keeping the darn
thing out of users' mailboxes.

Andrew 8)


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 Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 12:08 PM
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 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New Virus: zipped word doc with 
 Macro-Virus
 
 Actually, it is CLAMAV catching it.  Not sure about McAfee as 
 I stop on first virus.  F-Prot is def. not catching it though. 
 
 Darrell 
 
 Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: 
 
  Mcafee is catching these Trojan.Myno on my systems.  
  
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  Markus Gufler writes:  
  
  Some of us has noted in the past two hours that messages with an 
  zip-file as attachment has passed our virus filters
  
  It's a zip-file containing a MS Word Document named 
 my_notebook.doc  
  
  Most Virus-Scanners can't catch it. Virustotal has 
 returned only two 
  scanners with positive results
  
  Sophos has found WM97/Kukudro-A UNA has found a Macro Virus  
  
  No other AV-Engine has catched the suspicious file.  
  
  We've added the following lines to our virus.cfg in order 
 to block as 
  much was we can at the moment.
  
  BANNAME prices.zip
  BANNAME apple_prices.zip
  BANNAME sony_prices.zip
  BANNAME hp_prices.zip
  BANNAME dell_prices.zip
  BANNAME My_Notebook.doc
  
  Regards
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus: zipped word doc with Macro-Virus

2006-06-27 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
JT Declude, this is a feature who's time has come.

Hear, hear!  The ability to ban filenames that are contained in archives
would be a good feature, and most of the code must be in place, because
Declude Virus already pulls apart at least the zip file format for
selective file scanning.

It is also well placed in the market.  I checked my up-to-the-minute
ScanMail for Exchange from Trend Micro, and they don't have that
feature.  I also tested it to see whether filename blocking would work
anyway, and no, it didn't.

Andrew 8)


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 Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 3:38 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus: zipped word doc with 
 Macro-Virus
 Importance: High
 
 I know. :(
 
 Declude, this is a feature who's time has come.
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
 Seek, and ye shall find!
 
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Markus Gufler
  Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 3:10 PM
  To: declude.virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus: zipped word doc with 
  Macro-Virus
  
  As I know yes but
  
  BANNAME my_notebook.doc
  
  wouldn't work for files within zip-archives.
  
  Markus
  
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   John T (Lists)
   Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:48 PM
   To: declude.virus@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus: zipped word doc with 
   Macro-Virus
  
   Is the word document only named that?
  
   John T
   eServices For You
  
   Seek, and ye shall find!
  
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 On Behalf 
Of Markus Gufler
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:32 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] New Virus: zipped word doc with 
Macro-Virus
   
Some of us has noted in the past two hours that 
 messages with an 
zip-file
   as
attachment has passed our virus filters
   
It's a zip-file containing a MS Word Document named
   my_notebook.doc
   
Most Virus-Scanners can't catch it. Virustotal has returned
   only two
scanners with positive results
   
Sophos has found WM97/Kukudro-A
UNA has found a Macro Virus
   
No other AV-Engine has catched the suspicious file.
   
We've added the following lines to our virus.cfg in order
   to block as
much was we can at the moment.
   
BANNAME prices.zip
BANNAME apple_prices.zip
BANNAME sony_prices.zip
BANNAME hp_prices.zip
BANNAME dell_prices.zip
BANNAME My_Notebook.doc
   
Regards
Markus
   
   
   
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Entry in Event Log

2006-06-22 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



This came up just last Friday, Mark.

Here's the end of that thread on the mail archive 
website:

http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.virus@declude.com/msg13314.html


Andrew 8)



  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark ReimerSent: 
  Thursday, June 22, 2006 2:51 PMTo: Declude. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  comSubject: [Declude.Virus] Entry in Event Log
  
  
  For the past week I have only seen 
  my virus log show could not find parse string infection: in report.txt for 
  f-prot. I have not made any changes to anything in weeks. Does f-prot show 
  this when it does not show the name of the virus?
  
  Mark 
  Reimer
  IT Project Manager
  American CareSource
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RE: [Declude.Virus] another new virus

2006-06-20 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



Ditto.

F-Prot notices that the zip file is password protected and 
I can see that there is a very-Bagle-ish gif fileof the 
password.

David Barker's earlier response of 
using:

BANEXT 
EZIP

in your virus.cfg will work 
to catch these.

I received a single copy, 
and it was from a likely zombie due to the reverse DNS I noted. I 
submitted my sample to Trend and to ClamAV.

Andrew 
8)



  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary SteinerSent: 
  Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:42 PMTo: 
  declude.virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] another new 
  virus
  
  I just started receiving copies of a new virus that 
  F-Prot flags, but with the descriptive label of "Unknown" (at least out of 
  Declude). The messages are all around 86k in size, and contain a gif and 
  an encrypted zip file. It pretends to be sending you a password for some 
  unnamed account.Following is what VirusTotoal says:
  
  


  Antivirus
  Version
  Update
  Result


  AntiVir
  6.35.0.13
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  Authentium
  4.93.8
  06.20.2006
  Not scanned (encrypted)

  Avast
  4.7.844.0
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  AVG
  386
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  BitDefender
  7.2
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  CAT-QuickHeal
  8.00
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  ClamAV
  devel-20060426
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  DrWeb
  4.33
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  eTrust-InoculateIT
  23.72.43
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  eTrust-Vet
  12.6.2265
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  Ewido
  3.5
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  Fortinet
  2.77.0.0
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  F-Prot
  3.16f
  06.20.2006
  suspicious

  Ikarus
  0.2.65.0
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  Kaspersky
  4.0.2.24
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  McAfee
  4788
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  Microsoft
  1.1441
  06.20.2006
  password protected

  NOD32v2
  1.1611
  06.20.2006
  error - password-protected file

  Norman
  5.90.21
  06.20.2006
  Mitglied.gen

  Panda
  9.0.0.4
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  Sophos
  4.06.0
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  Symantec
  8.0
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  TheHacker
  5.9.8.162
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  UNA
  1.83
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  VBA32
  3.11.0
  06.20.2006 
  no virus found

  VirusBuster
  4.3.7:9
  06.20.2006
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RE: [Declude.Virus] another new virus

2006-06-20 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



... and here'sone writeup on that new 
Bagle:

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM%5FBAGLE%2EFNVSect=T


Andrew 8)

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, 
  AndrewSent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 1:17 PMTo: 
  declude.virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] another new 
  virus
  
  Ditto.
  
  F-Prot notices that the zip file is password protected 
  and I can see that there is a very-Bagle-ish gif fileof the 
  password.
  
  David Barker's earlier response of 
  using:
  
  BANEXT 
  EZIP
  
  in your virus.cfg will 
  work to catch these.
  
  I received a single copy, 
  and it was from a likely zombie due to the reverse DNS I noted. I 
  submitted my sample to Trend and to ClamAV.
  
  Andrew 
  8)
  
  
  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary 
SteinerSent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:42 PMTo: 
declude.virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] another new 
virus

I just started receiving copies of a new virus 
that F-Prot flags, but with the descriptive label of "Unknown" (at least out 
of Declude). The messages are all around 86k in size, and contain a 
gif and an encrypted zip file. It pretends to be sending you a 
password for some unnamed account.Following is what VirusTotoal 
says:


  
  
Antivirus
Version
Update
Result
  
  
AntiVir
6.35.0.13
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
Authentium
4.93.8
06.20.2006
Not scanned (encrypted)
  
Avast
4.7.844.0
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
AVG
386
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
BitDefender
7.2
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
CAT-QuickHeal
8.00
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
ClamAV
devel-20060426
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
DrWeb
4.33
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
eTrust-InoculateIT
23.72.43
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
eTrust-Vet
12.6.2265
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
Ewido
3.5
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
Fortinet
2.77.0.0
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
F-Prot
3.16f
06.20.2006
suspicious
  
Ikarus
0.2.65.0
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
Kaspersky
4.0.2.24
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
McAfee
4788
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
Microsoft
1.1441
06.20.2006
password protected
  
NOD32v2
1.1611
06.20.2006
error - password-protected file
  
Norman
5.90.21
06.20.2006
Mitglied.gen
  
Panda
9.0.0.4
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
Sophos
4.06.0
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
Symantec
8.0
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
TheHacker
5.9.8.162
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
UNA
1.83
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
VBA32
3.11.0
06.20.2006 
no virus found
  
VirusBuster
4.3.7:9
06.20.2006
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RE: [Declude.Virus] new virus

2006-06-16 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
It might be this, if my F-Prot is more up to date than yours, as mine
has identified a few zip files with a plus sign in the name as
W32/Brepibot.gen

http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/archive-062006.html#0902

The fake HELO names were CNN.com and TradersWorld.com if that's any use.

Andrew 8)

 

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 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] new virus
 
 Yes,
 
 04dotzip just came through here but McAfee stopped it. But 
 F-prot not getting it.
 
 At 04:30 PM 6/16/2006 -0400, you wrote: 
 
 Is anyone else seeing new virus zip files getting past F-Prot?
 the last one was just numbers.zip
 Earlier a few came through with name.zip
   
 Bruce Loughlin
   
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RE: [Declude.Virus] new virus

2006-06-16 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
This is what I've received recently:

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=BKDR%5FB
REPBOT%2EAVSect=T

My F-Prot and Trend Micro do detect it.  When I submit the executable
inside the payload to http://virusscan.jotti.org or
http://www.virustotal.com I get these results:

AntiVir 6.35.0.13   06.16.2006  Worm/SdBot.32768.26
Authentium  4.93.8  06.16.2006  W32/Brepibot.gen
Avast   4.7.844.0   06.15.2006  no virus found
AVG 386 06.16.2006  IRC/BackDoor.SdBot2.EDN
BitDefender 7.2 06.16.2006  Backdoor.IRCbot.JD
CAT-QuickHeal   8.0006.16.2006  no virus found
ClamAV  devel-20060426  06.16.2006  Trojan.IRCBot-638
DrWeb   4.3306.16.2006  BackDoor.IRC.Boxer
eTrust-InoculateIT  23.72.4006.16.2006  no virus found
eTrust-Vet  12.6.2259   06.16.2006  no virus found
Ewido   3.5 06.16.2006  no virus found
Fortinet2.77.0.006.16.2006  W32/Brepibot.AS!tr
F-Prot  3.16f   06.16.2006  W32/Brepibot.gen
Ikarus  0.2.65.006.16.2006  photo3.exe
Kaspersky   4.0.2.2406.16.2006
Backdoor.Win32.Breplibot.ai
McAfee  478606.16.2006  W32/Brepibot.gen
Microsoft   1.1441  06.16.2006  no virus found
NOD32v2 1.1605  06.16.2006  Win32/IRCBot.PH
Norman  5.90.21 06.16.2006  W32/Malware
Panda   9.0.0.4 06.16.2006  Suspicious file
Sophos  4.06.0  06.16.2006  Troj/Stinx-W
Symantec8.0 06.16.2006  Backdoor.Naninf.E
TheHacker   5.9.8.160   06.16.2006  no virus found 


Andrew 8)




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 Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 2:21 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] new virus
 
 It might be this, if my F-Prot is more up to date than yours, 
 as mine has identified a few zip files with a plus sign in 
 the name as W32/Brepibot.gen
 
 http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/archive-062006.html#0902
 
 The fake HELO names were CNN.com and TradersWorld.com if 
 that's any use.
 
 Andrew 8)
 
  
 
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  Ncl Admin
  Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 2:03 PM
  To: declude.virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] new virus
  
  Yes,
  
  04dotzip just came through here but McAfee stopped it. But 
 F-prot not 
  getting it.
  
  At 04:30 PM 6/16/2006 -0400, you wrote: 
  
  Is anyone else seeing new virus zip files getting past F-Prot?
  the last one was just numbers.zip
  Earlier a few came through with name.zip

  Bruce Loughlin

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RE: [Declude.Virus] new virus

2006-06-16 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
 Could not find parse string Infection: in report.txt
 
 Means that it did not find the word infection in the file

Correct, that is what the Declude line means.  Other codes like 8 don't
include the Infection: text, so an f-prot result line like:

.exe  is a security risk named W32/Mitglieder.gen

Won't pick up the name because Infection: simply wasn't in the line.

Andrew 8)




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 Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 4:18 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] new virus
 
 Yup I got it. I think that the message
 
 Could not find parse string Infection: in report.txt
 
 Means that it did not find the word infection in the file
 
 SCANFILE1 C:\Progra~1\FSI\F-Prot\fpcmd.exe /AI /TYPE /SILENT
 /ARCHIVE=5 /DUMB /NOBOOT /NOMEM /PACKED /SERVER /REPORT=report.txt
 VIRUSCODE13
 VIRUSCODE16
 VIRUSCODE 8
 VIRUSCODE 9
 VIRUSCODE 10
 REPORT1   Infection:
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 Omega Network Solutions
 
  
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:59 PM
  To: declude.virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] new virus
  
  
  Goran,
  
  Do you have exit code 8 also listed for F-Prot in your 
 virus.cfg?  If
 not
  you should.
  
  Darrell
 
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  - Original Message -
  From: Goran Jovanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: declude.virus@declude.com
  Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:04 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] new virus
  
  
  My F-Prot is finding it but it does not know what it is. 
 Both the MAIL 
  FROM and the RCPT TO are the same address
  
  06/16/2006 17:55:56.748 q28de0a3700ce75a5.smd Vulnerability 
 flags = 64
  06/16/2006 17:55:56.748 q28de0a3700ce75a5.smd MIME file:
  [text/html][7bit; Length=43 Checksum=2820]
  06/16/2006 17:55:56.748 q28de0a3700ce75a5.smd MIME file: 06.zip
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  06/16/2006 17:55:57.295 q28de0a3700ce75a5.smd From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [outgoing from 209.239.24.62]
  06/16/2006 17:55:57.295 q28de0a3700ce75a5.smd Subject: 05
  
  Goran Jovanovic
  Omega Network Solutions
  Tel: 416 322-0333
  Cell: 416 805-HELP (4357)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of 
   Colbeck, Andrew
   Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 5:31 PM
   To: declude.virus@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] new virus
  
   This is what I've received recently:
  
  
 
 http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VNam
 e=BKDR%5FB
   REPBOT%2EAVSect=T
  
   My F-Prot and Trend Micro do detect it.  When I submit the
 executable
   inside the payload to http://virusscan.jotti.org or 
   http://www.virustotal.com I get these results:
  
   AntiVir 6.35.0.13 06.16.2006 Worm/SdBot.32768.26 
 Authentium 4.93.8 
   06.16.2006 W32/Brepibot.gen Avast 4.7.844.0 06.15.2006 no virus 
   found AVG 386 06.16.2006 IRC/BackDoor.SdBot2.EDN BitDefender 7.2 
   06.16.2006 Backdoor.IRCbot.JD CAT-QuickHeal 8.00 
 06.16.2006 no virus 
   found ClamAV devel-20060426 06.16.2006 Trojan.IRCBot-638 
 DrWeb 4.33 
   06.16.2006 BackDoor.IRC.Boxer eTrust-InoculateIT 23.72.40 
 06.16.2006 
   no virus found eTrust-Vet 12.6.2259 06.16.2006 no virus 
 found Ewido 
   3.5 06.16.2006 no virus found Fortinet 2.77.0.0 06.16.2006 
   W32/Brepibot.AS!tr F-Prot 3.16f 06.16.2006 
 W32/Brepibot.gen Ikarus 
   0.2.65.0 06.16.2006 photo3.exe Kaspersky 4.0.2.24 06.16.2006 
   Backdoor.Win32.Breplibot.ai McAfee 4786 06.16.2006 
 W32/Brepibot.gen 
   Microsoft 1.1441 06.16.2006 no virus found
   NOD32v2 1.1605 06.16.2006 Win32/IRCBot.PH Norman 5.90.21 
 06.16.2006 
   W32/Malware Panda 9.0.0.4 06.16.2006 Suspicious file 
 Sophos 4.06.0 
   06.16.2006 Troj/Stinx-W Symantec 8.0 06.16.2006 Backdoor.Naninf.E 
   TheHacker 5.9.8.160 06.16.2006 no virus found
  
  
   Andrew 8)
  
  
  
  
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Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 2:21 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] new virus

RE: [Declude.Virus] the ebay spoof spam stuff

2006-06-14 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Bob, drop an email to the handler on duty at http://isc.sans.org/ for
some general advice.  They may also have some specific reference to
point you to regarding a vulnerability or they may recognize the modus
operandi of what you saw.  I don't recognize it, myself.

Generally speaking, your best bet is to take that machine offline and
rebuild it from known good sources.

Andrew 8)


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Bob McGregor
 Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 11:37 AM
 To: Declude-List
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] the ebay spoof spam stuff
 
 this is a bit off-topic but
 
 we had one of our servers last night have the ebay spoof page 
 loaded on it. Anyone have info as to how this gets loaded 
 and, more imporantly how to keep it from happening?
 
 The only things I found was the htm page that was referenced 
 in the spam e-mail and a folder on the desktop named sign 
 in_files with the images associated with the page.
 
 I want to keep it from happening again.
 
 thanks, bob
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Built in virus detector

2006-05-03 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
(Another country heard from) 

Release announcements?  Why, that's why I subscribed to Declude.Releases
on May-11-2005 ... The only message I've kept (the only one received!?)
was from Barry on Sep-26-2005 and had the subject:

Declude 3.0 Availability

Andrew.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
 Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:43 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Built in virus detector
 
 Besides  your question why can't declude notify the list when 
 there is a new release??? New releases seem to magically appear.
 
 From 4.1 to 4.2.3 with only two release notes??? Seems a wast of 
 everyones
 time to release a version with two ADD release notes, no 
 fixes and no documentation the last manual place online is for 4.0.8.
 
 
 Kevin Bilbee
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Carter
  Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:17 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] Built in virus detector
 
 
  Just noticed yesterday's 4.2.3 release notes:
 
  EVA ADD BUILTINSCANNEROFF
  Located in Virus.cfg. Will disable the internal AVG scanner.
  EVA ADD Integrated AVG Scanner into Decludeproc no 
 configuration required.
 
  Can someone supply info on this?  I must have missed the 
 discussion, 
  if there was one.
 
  Thanks,
  John
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Possible virus?

2006-04-04 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Possible virus?



It's been years, but I do remember that there were several 
viruses that would take random MS Office documents off the infected user's 
computer as "cover" when it sent itself out. Their names, though, I don't 
remember.

Andrew 8)


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyn 
  SchmidtSent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:01 AMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] Possible 
  virus?
  
  Anyone seen or heard of a virus that is sending out 
  random power point attachments? 
  One of the attachments is called 
  House_of_Golf.pps 
  Thanks, Sharyn 


RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Switches

2006-03-28 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
#Dec-10-2004 AC Note that I've added 'ai' and 'packed' to the switches
suggested in the manual.  The noboot and nomem options
#   are not listed when you ask fpcmd.exe for help, but they
are definitely in the logs.
SCANFILED:\F-Prot\fpcmd.exe /ai /server /archive=5 /packed /dumb
/noboot /nomem /silent /report=report.txt


Andrew 8)

 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Reimer
 Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:46 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot Switches
 
 After seeing Matt's response I'm curious what other users are 
 using for their F-prot switches. Some of the switches Matt 
 uses seem like they should be used but Declude does not 
 include them in the config shown in their EVA manual. What do 
 the majority of you all use?
 
 Mark Reimer
 IT Project Manager
 American CareSource
 214-596-2464
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] ClamAV sanesecurity definitions

2006-03-01 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



Scott,

Are you running ClamAV with the SaneSecurity antiphishing 
signatures as an external spam test in Declude Pro, or as an antivirus engine in 
Declude Virus Pro?


Andrew 8)



  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott 
  FisherSent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:06 PMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] ClamAV  
  sanesecurity definitions
  
  As a followupon last week's discussions on 
  the SaneSecurity phish definitions for ClamAv.
  
  ClamAv (without SaneSecurity) caught 273 phish 
  for me in February (all 28 days).
  SaneSecurity definitions caught 178 phish for me 
  in the last 8 days of February.
  McAfee caught 118 and none after I installed the 
  SaneSecurity definitions.
  
  SaneSecurity has done a wonderful job 
  here.
  
  Thanks again Bill!
  -Scott 
  FisherDirector of ITFarm Progress Companies191 S Gary AveCarol 
  Stream, IL 60188630-462-2323
  
  This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the 
  intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. 
  Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you 
  are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and 
  destroy all copies of the original message. Although Farm Progress Companies 
  has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this 
  email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising 
  from the use of this email or attachments.
  
  


RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

2006-02-23 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Tu peut l'escrite en Francais et Espanol dans la meme recip.eml; je vu
beaucoup de cette technique en Canada, mais c'est en Anglais et
Francais.


Andrew 8)
 

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:12 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
 
 You could always put the English and Spanish messages into 
 the same recip.eml file. I see a lot of that type of thing up 
 here in Canada except it is English and French.
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 Omega Network Solutions
 
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
  Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:04 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
  
  Can the following be done in Declude EVA?
  
  I have customers who are english speakers, and customers who are
 spanish
  speakers.  When a customer is sent a virus, they receive a messsage 
  telling them about the virus (recip.eml).  I want to be 
 able to have a 
  different message sent to each of my domains depending on 
 the language
 of
  the customer (recip-en.eml and recip-es.eml).  I believe this can be
 done
  in Junkmail, but can it be done in EVA?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Gary Steiner
  
  
  
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RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

2006-02-23 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Goran, I actually avoid any bounce and alerts to recipients and senders.

I only use alerting to send virus alerts inbound to our postmaster
account.

I do this because I know firsthand how hard it is to keep junk alerts
from the Internet from coming in to my users' mailboxes.

Likewise, I recommend NOT sending user notifications regarding viruses.

Andrew 8)


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:43 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
 
 Andrew,
 
 Do you do anything to decrease the change of the alert 
 message going out to real spammers or forged addresses? 
 
 This would get sent out to e-mail that failed REVDNS and were 
 not deleted as SPAM?
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 Omega Network Solutions
 
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
  Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:35 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
  
  Example attached (sorry, German/English in this case).
  
  Best Regards
  Andy Schmidt
  
  Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
  Fax:+1 201 934-9206
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran 
 Jovanovic
  Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 02:12 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
  
  You could always put the English and Spanish messages into the same 
  recip.eml file. I see a lot of that type of thing up here in Canada
 except
  it is English and French.
  
  Goran Jovanovic
  Omega Network Solutions
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
   Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:04 PM
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Subject: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
  
   Can the following be done in Declude EVA?
  
   I have customers who are english speakers, and customers who are
  spanish
   speakers.  When a customer is sent a virus, they receive 
 a messsage 
   telling them about the virus (recip.eml).  I want to be 
 able to have
 a
   different message sent to each of my domains depending on the
 language
  of
   the customer (recip-en.eml and recip-es.eml).  I believe 
 this can be
  done
   in Junkmail, but can it be done in EVA?
  
   Thanks,
  
   Gary Steiner
  
  
  
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RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

2006-02-23 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
H, this would still not work out well in the real world.

I've no problem with the construction of this test, but with the
concept.

For example, Microsoft often fails REVDNS with their Hotmail/MSN service
and you would be informing Aunt Minnie about something technical over
which she has no control and no interest.  And you'd be effectively
spamming her every time she sends a message to one of your users.

Andrew 8)


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:13 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
 
 Andrew,
 
 I do not send any outbound alerts/bounces etc. The only ones 
 I send are for banned files and that goes to the recipient(s). 
 
 Having said that I kind of like the ideal of sending a REVDNS 
 alert to legitimate senders in the hope that they will act to 
 cleanup their system. Question is how do you tell if they are 
 a legitimate mail rather than spam? Perhaps with a filter 
 like this run as the last one in global.cfg
 
 SKIPIFWEIGHT 10
 TESTFAILED 0 CONTAINS REVDNS
 
 Then do an alert in the $default$.junkmail file for this test
 
 I tag at 10 and delete at 30 so this would only trigger on legit
 messages
 
 Just a thought
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 Omega Network Solutions
 
  
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
  Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:04 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
  
  Goran, I actually avoid any bounce and alerts to recipients and
 senders.
  
  I only use alerting to send virus alerts inbound to our postmaster 
  account.
  
  I do this because I know firsthand how hard it is to keep 
 junk alerts 
  from the Internet from coming in to my users' mailboxes.
  
  Likewise, I recommend NOT sending user notifications regarding
 viruses.
  
  Andrew 8)
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran
 Jovanovic
   Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:43 AM
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
  
   Andrew,
  
   Do you do anything to decrease the change of the alert 
 message going 
   out to real spammers or forged addresses?
  
   This would get sent out to e-mail that failed REVDNS and were not 
   deleted as SPAM?
  
   Goran Jovanovic
   Omega Network Solutions
  
  
  
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:35 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
   
Example attached (sorry, German/English in this case).
   
Best Regards
Andy Schmidt
   
Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206
   
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran
   Jovanovic
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 02:12 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
   
You could always put the English and Spanish messages into the
 same
recip.eml file. I see a lot of that type of thing up here in
 Canada
   except
it is English and French.
   
Goran Jovanovic
Omega Network Solutions
   
   
   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:04 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

 Can the following be done in Declude EVA?

 I have customers who are english speakers, and 
 customers who are
spanish
 speakers.  When a customer is sent a virus, they receive
   a messsage
 telling them about the virus (recip.eml).  I want to be
   able to have
   a
 different message sent to each of my domains depending on the
   language
of
 the customer (recip-en.eml and recip-es.eml).  I believe
   this can be
done
 in Junkmail, but can it be done in EVA?

 Thanks,

 Gary Steiner



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RE: [Declude.Virus] [IMail Forum] Realistic virus threat?

2006-02-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



My raw speculation:

1) It is missed because the virus.cfg is using the 
"PRESCANON" switch (the default, I believe) and the declude.exe 
application does not decode the MIME or other coding as flexibly as a mail 
client would, or makes an uninformed decision about what is an object worth 
scanning.

ANSWER: use PRESCAN OFF instead. This will incur 
more CPU time as the selected antivirus scanner(s) will be scanning all 
objects.

2) For F-Prot specifically, the /server switch is not 
being used and therefore F-Prot is not doing the message format decoding. 
If Declude did a perfect job, this setting would be 
irrelevant.

ANSWER: use the /server switch in your SCANFILE 
definition. This would cause more CPU time on the few messages that appear 
as nested message encoding; it is intended for scanning servers with multiple 
mailbox formats and nested messages.


I follow my own advice on these two points and do not 
have a problem with F-Prot under Declude EVA missing known 
viruses.


Andrew 8)



  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill 
  LandrySent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:47 PMTo: 
  Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com; Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: 
  Re: [Declude.Virus] [IMail Forum] Realistic virus threat?
  
  I reported this issue quite some time ago, when 
  Scott was still running the show, and never got a satisfactory answer. 
  You can scan the raw d*.smd file with f-prot and it will detect the virus, but 
  run it through Declude Virus, and the virus goes though undetected. 
  After pestering and prodding for several days, I finally gave up on getting a 
  response that made sense. But it must have something to do with the way 
  Declude Virus is stripping off the mime encapsulation before calling f-prot to 
  scan the message.
  
  I have copied this to the Declude Virus list, as 
  well, since it really belongs there rather than on the IMail 
list.
  
  Bill
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Michael Graveen 

To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 

Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:15 
PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Realistic 
virus threat?
I've had F-Prot miss this virus on the mail server (being 
called from Declude). But it's caught coming to my desktop, with the 
same virus scanner. Is anyone else seeing this?MikeAt 
02:25 PM 2/2/2006, you wrote:
I believe F-Prot calls it W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  


From: Stephen Guluk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 2:19 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: [IMail Forum] Realistic virus threat?
Off topic but still related to email... 
Had a couple clients that called concerned about this virus that is 
said to open and do it's damage tomorrow:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Win32.Nyxem.e
I run F-prot on my mail server and their list of virus definitions 
shows nothing pertaining to this virus name. I wrote them but expect 
that they are sleeping since they are in Iceland.
Anyone else running F-prot and know any more info on it this is a 
real threat?
Regards, 
Steve Guluk
SGDesign
(949) 661-9333
ICQ: 
7230769


RE: [Declude.Virus] [IMail Forum] Realistic virus threat?

2006-02-02 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



3) On a very busy server, Declude may be aborting 
the scan because it is taking too long. The default is 60 
seconds.

ANSWER: Use SCANNERTIMEOUT90 in the virus.cfg or some 
other time value of your choosing.

Andrew 8)



  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, 
  AndrewSent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 2:10 PMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
  [Declude.Virus] [IMail Forum] Realistic virus threat?
  
  My raw speculation:
  
  1) It is missed because the virus.cfg is using the 
  "PRESCANON" switch (the default, I believe) and the declude.exe 
  application does not decode the MIME or other coding as flexibly as a mail 
  client would, or makes an uninformed decision about what is an object worth 
  scanning.
  
  ANSWER: use PRESCAN OFF instead. This will 
  incur more CPU time as the selected antivirus scanner(s) will be scanning all 
  objects.
  
  2) For F-Prot specifically, the /server switch is not 
  being used and therefore F-Prot is not doing the message format 
  decoding. If Declude did a perfect job, this setting would be 
  irrelevant.
  
  ANSWER: use the /server switch in your SCANFILE 
  definition. This would cause more CPU time on the few messages that 
  appear as nested message encoding; it is intended for scanning servers with 
  multiple mailbox formats and nested messages.
  
  
  I follow my own advice on these two points and do not 
  have a problem with F-Prot under Declude EVA missing known 
  viruses.
  
  
  Andrew 8)
  
  
  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill 
LandrySent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:47 PMTo: 
Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com; Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: 
Re: [Declude.Virus] [IMail Forum] Realistic virus 
threat?

I reported this issue quite some time ago, when 
Scott was still running the show, and never got a satisfactory answer. 
You can scan the raw d*.smd file with f-prot and it will detect the virus, 
but run it through Declude Virus, and the virus goes though 
undetected. After pestering and prodding for several days, I finally 
gave up on getting a response that made sense. But it must have 
something to do with the way Declude Virus is stripping off the mime 
encapsulation before calling f-prot to scan the message.

I have copied this to the Declude Virus list, 
as well, since it really belongs there rather than on the IMail 
list.

Bill

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Michael Graveen 
  
  To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 
  1:15 PM
  Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Realistic 
  virus threat?
  I've had F-Prot miss this virus on the mail server (being 
  called from Declude). But it's caught coming to my desktop, with the 
  same virus scanner. Is anyone else seeing 
  this?MikeAt 02:25 PM 2/2/2006, you wrote:
  I believe F-Prot calls it W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  

  From: Stephen Guluk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 2:19 PM
  To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
  Subject: [IMail Forum] Realistic virus threat?
  Off topic but still related to email... 
  Had a couple clients that called concerned about this virus that 
  is said to open and do it's damage tomorrow:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Win32.Nyxem.e
  I run F-prot on my mail server and their list of virus definitions 
  shows nothing pertaining to this virus name. I wrote them but expect 
  that they are sleeping since they are in Iceland.
  Anyone else running F-prot and know any more info on it this is a 
  real threat?
  Regards, 
  Steve Guluk
  SGDesign
  (949) 661-9333
  ICQ: 
  7230769


RE: [Declude.Virus] Encoded viruses...worried

2006-02-01 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Don:

I don't know about the best but the de facto standard works great.  Get a 
bunch of *nix tools that have been ported to W32 here:

http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/

And get the up-to-date version of wget here:

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/hherold/#Files

With these, you don't need to run CygWin ports or the Microsoft Windows 
Services for Unix. Bill Landry put the Declude and Message Sniffer mailing list 
users on to these a long time ago, and I'm still grateful to him.

I did some speed tests a long time ago, and found that the grep tool mentioned 
above was an order of magnitude faster than the find.exe that comes with 
Windows.

John T:

Sorry, you were probably viewing the output with NotePad.  I use a different 
editor that accomodates CR or CR/LF as the end-of-line sequence.  Good old edit 
and WordPad will do the trick.  So will using less.exe instead of piping to 
more.

Markus:

Great tip, I just might make that part of my standard commands anyway.


Matt:

No problem, the .UU part of the search will also find all the lines that 
mention the .UUE format.


Andrew 8)




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown
 Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:24 AM
 To: Markus Gufler
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Encoded viruses...worried
 
 Off list - what grep do you use or which is the best for a W32 box?
 
 
 Wednesday, February 1, 2006, 8:40:19 AM, Markus Gufler 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 MG   
 MG  
 MG I've grep'ed trough the logfiles for the last 7 days on 
 my  servers
 MG  
 MG  
 MG  
 MG 2981 lines has sources of  \.BHX|\.HQX|\.B64|\.UU|\.MIM|\.MME
 MG (ignoring double counts for the second av  scanner)
 MG  
 MG  
 MG  
 MG After filtering out all lines containing Kapser and  Mywife
 MG there remains the following 4 lines
 MG  
 MG  
 MG  
 MG 01/25/2006 11:46:45.937 q570b9f4500e492b1.smd Found file  with 
 MG mismatched extensions [Attachments001.BHX-Removed 
 Attachment.txt]; 
 MG assuming  .exe
 MG 01/26/2006 08:07:23.078 q7525030700d4d05a.smd Found file with 
 MG mismatched  extensions [Attachments00.HQX-Removed 
 Attachment.txt]; 
 MG assuming  .exe
 MG 01/26/2006 08:08:23.890 q755303060132d08f.smd Found file with 
 MG mismatched  extensions [Attachments001.BHX-Removed 
 Attachment.txt]; 
 MG assuming  .exe
 MG 01/27/2006 21:51:19.375 q87bd58b10020b63d.smd Warning: 
 EOF in middle 
 MG of  MIME segment [] [--=_NextPart_001_0008_01C6238B.B6472520]
 MG  
 MG  
 MG  
 MG This  looks very promising that declude is already handling it in 
 MG order to catch  malicious code inside such attachments.
 MG  
 MG Note:  the 4.th line is listed due the MIME 
 MG  
 MG  
 MG  
 MG Markus
 MG  
 MG  
 MG  
 MG  
 MG  
 
 
 MG  
 MG   
 MG   
 
 MG   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
 MG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
 MG Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:19 PM
 MG To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 MG Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Encodedviruses...worried
 
 MG   
 MG You know, I was going to ask if you would do a search, but I   
 MG figured you might do it anyway :)  You did leave out the .uue   
 MG extension, but I doubt that would have changed your results.
 
 MG I supposethat if these extensions aren't hardly ever used
 MG anymore, it might be prudentenough to just watch for the
 MG possibility of the tactic to become widespreadand 
 then take action.
 
 MG I do have a fair number of Mac users and probablymore
 MG overseas traffic that you do, so I think that I am going to have
 MG tosearch a little on my own.  Unfortunately I zip all of my
 MG logs nightly,so it isn't practical to search through 
 all ofthem.
 
 MG Matt
 
 
 
 MG Colbeck, Andrew wrote: 
 MG   
 
 
 MG On the plus side, there are mitigating  circumstances...
 MG    
 MG   First, let me point out that although the antivirus 
 MG companies will lag behind the virus authors, the 
 antivirus guys aren't  sleeping.
 MG    
 MG   For many years, the bad guys have been using encoding 
 MG methods and 3rd party applications to obfusticate their software
 MG as a  cheaper alternative on their time than writing
 MG polymorphic code whose very  technique gave them away.
 MG    
 MG   PKLite was probably the first 3rd party tool  used.  I've
 MG recently seen PAK, UPX and FSG... all three of which were 
 MG caught by F-Prot because the antivirus guys simply make signatures
 MG for the  binary itself, and don't bother including unpacking
 MG methods for all possible  compression/encryption methods. 
 MG This explains why we have relatively  few upgrades on 
 the engines themselves.
 MG    
 MG   The F-Prot documentation mentions (I think) only zip 
 MG decoding, but we know that it certainly does UPX and RAR decoding
 MG based on  issues that have been raised with each (for the
 MG former, pathetic speed and  the former, a buffer overflow).
 MG    
 MG   If you want to see what

RE: [Declude.Virus] Encoded viruses...worried

2006-01-31 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



John, the other formats are common (or, were common) on 
Macintosh and Unix based systems for binary attachments and for attached 
messages. Eudora for Windows used to expose several of these formats for 
message construction.

They've fallen into disuse in favour of MIME attachments, 
but they are still extant.

Blockingmessages containing those attachment formats 
may be reasonable for you if you're doing postmaster alerts and can check 
whether you've found false positives.

Like Matt, I'm somewhat worried that this technique will 
become as common a nuisance as encrypted zips. Until recently, I've put my 
faith in the combination of Declude unpacking the attachments (I've assumed MIME 
encoding only) and F-Prot's packed and server options to otherwise do message 
decoding before virus scanning.

I've been watching for copies of Blackworm that might be 
caught on my system so that I check if Declude+F-Prot would catch these other 
packing formats, but no luck so far (or rather, I've had the good luck to 
receive so few copies in so few formats).

Andrew 8)


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T 
  (Lists)Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:44 PMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Encoded 
  viruses...worried
  
  
  Actually, I am 
  already blocking hqz and uue so I went and added the others and will see what 
  happens.
  
  
  John 
  T
  eServices For 
  You
  
  "Seek, and ye shall 
  find!"
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of John T 
  (Lists)Sent: 
  Tuesday, 
  January 31, 2006 
  5:37 
  PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Encoded 
  viruses...worried
  
  Matt, are you 
  saying the attachment as Declude would see it is B64, UU, UUE, MIM, MME, BHX 
  and HQX? If that is so, what harm would be in blocking those for 
  now?
  
  
  John 
  T
  eServices For 
  You
  
  "Seek, and ye shall 
  find!"
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of MattSent: Tuesday, 
  January 31, 2006 
  4:50 
  PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] Encoded 
  viruses...worried
  
  Someone just reported to me that MyWife.d 
  (McAfee)/Kapser.A (F-Prot)/Blackmal.E (Symantec)/etc., has a 3rd of the month 
  payload that will overwrite a bunch of files. It's really nasty. 
  More can be found at these links: http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1067 
  http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_138027.htmThis 
  started hitting my system on the 17th, possibly seeded through Yahoo! 
  Groups. The problem is that it often sent encoded attachments in BinHex 
  (BHX, HQX), Base64 (B64), Uuencode (UU, UUE), and MIME (MIM, MME), and I'm not 
  sure that Declude is decoding all of these to see what is inside. For 
  instance, I found that some BHX files that clearly contained an executable 
  payload, showed up in my Virus logs like so:
  01/16/2006 05:36:49 Q7741EFB6011C4F95 
  MIME file: [text/html][7bit; Length=1953 Checksum=154023]01/16/2006 
  05:36:50 Q7741EFB6011C4F95 MIME file: Attachments001.BHX [base64; 
  Length=134042 Checksum=8624521]
  There was no mention about the payload inside of it, 
  and there almost definitely was. The same attachment name with the same 
  length was repeatedly detected as a virus later on that day. This likely 
  was a PIF file inside, though it could also have been a JPG according the 
  notes on this virus. I, like most of us here, don't allow PIF's to be 
  sent through our system, but when the PIF is encoded in at least BinHex 
  format, it gets past this type of protection.Here's the 
  conundrum. This mechanism could be exploited just like the Zip files 
  were by the Sober writers and continually seeded, but instead of requiring 
  some of us to at least temporarily block Zips with executables inside, an 
  outbreak of continually seeded variants with executables within one of these 
  standard encoding mechanisms would cause us to have to block all such 
  encodings. I therefore think it would be prudent for Declude to support 
  banned extensions within any of these encoding mechanisms if it doesn't 
  already. I readily admit that this could be a lot of work, but it could 
  be very bad if this mechanism becomes more common. This particular virus 
  is so destructive that a single copy could cause severe damage to one's 
  enterprise. I cross my fingers hoping that none of this would be 
  necessary, but that's not enough to be 
  safe.Matt


RE: [Declude.Virus] Encoded viruses...worried

2006-01-31 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



On the plus side, there are mitigating 
circumstances...

First, let me point out that although the antivirus 
companies will lag behind the virus authors, the antivirus guys aren't 
sleeping.

For many years, the bad guys have been using encoding 
methods and 3rd party applications to obfusticate their software as a cheaper 
alternative on their time than writing polymorphic code whose very technique 
gave them away.

PKLite was probably the first 3rd party tool used. 
I've recently seen PAK, UPX and FSG... all three of which were caught by F-Prot 
because the antivirus guys simply make signatures for the binary itself, and 
don't bother including unpacking methods for all possible compression/encryption 
methods. This explains why we have relatively few upgrades on the engines 
themselves.

The F-Prot documentation mentions (I think) only zip 
decoding, but we know that it certainly does UPX and RAR decoding based on 
issues that have been raised with each (for the former, pathetic speed and the 
former, a buffer overflow).

If you want to see what your virMMDD.log might reveal about 
this latest malware this month and what attachments you're seeing anyway, try 
this:

egrep "\.BHX|\.HQX|\.B64|\.UU|\.MIM|\.MME" 
vir01??.log

(if you don't want the filename, stick a -h parameter and a 
space before that first quotation mark)

By doing this, against my virMMDD.log I just discovered 
that F-Prot decodes BHX and HQX attachments too.

By doing something similar against my nightly 
virus-scan-the-spam-folder logs I also discovered that I have zero non-viral 
messages using the unconventional attachment formats in the last two 
months. You can take that as an indication that it's okay to ban those 
formats if you wish, but I'll warn that I have a pretty homogeneous Windows user 
base.

 and that'sa wrapfor 
tonight.

Andrew 8)



  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, 
  AndrewSent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 6:04 PMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Encoded 
  viruses...worried
  
  John, the other formats are common (or, were common) on 
  Macintosh and Unix based systems for binary attachments and for attached 
  messages. Eudora for Windows used to expose several of these formats for 
  message construction.
  
  They've fallen into disuse in favour of MIME attachments, 
  but they are still extant.
  
  Blockingmessages containing those attachment 
  formats may be reasonable for you if you're doing postmaster alerts and can 
  check whether you've found false positives.
  
  Like Matt, I'm somewhat worried that this technique will 
  become as common a nuisance as encrypted zips. Until recently, I've put 
  my faith in the combination of Declude unpacking the attachments (I've assumed 
  MIME encoding only) and F-Prot's packed and server options to otherwise do 
  message decoding before virus scanning.
  
  I've been watching for copies of Blackworm that might be 
  caught on my system so that I check if Declude+F-Prot would catch these other 
  packing formats, but no luck so far (or rather, I've had the good luck to 
  receive so few copies in so few formats).
  
  Andrew 8)
  
  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T 
(Lists)Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:44 PMTo: 
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Encoded 
viruses...worried


Actually, I am 
already blocking hqz and uue so I went and added the others and will see 
what happens.


John 
T
eServices For 
You

"Seek, and ye shall 
find!"


-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of John T 
(Lists)Sent: 
Tuesday, 
January 31, 2006 
5:37 
PMTo: 
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Encoded 
viruses...worried

Matt, are you 
saying the attachment as Declude would see it is B64, UU, UUE, MIM, MME, BHX 
and HQX? If that is so, what harm would be in blocking those for 
now?


John 
T
eServices For 
You

"Seek, and ye shall 
find!"


-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of MattSent: Tuesday, 
January 31, 2006 
4:50 
PMTo: 
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] Encoded 
viruses...worried

Someone just reported to me that MyWife.d 
(McAfee)/Kapser.A (F-Prot)/Blackmal.E (Symantec)/etc., has a 3rd of the 
month payload that will overwrite a bunch of files. It's really 
nasty. More can be found at these links: http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1067 
http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_138027.htmThis 
started hitting my system on the 17th, possibly seeded through Yahoo! 
Groups. The problem is that it often sent encoded attachments in 

RE: [Declude.Virus] Feature request: DELETEVIRUSNAME

2006-01-28 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
We've all made good points [except Matt, he's apparently high on life...
;)  ] and that is precisely the value of the debating club we've formed
here.

Excellent features have been put into Declude precisely because of the
debating club.  When Scott was the sole developer, this debate and
feedback was a great way for him to gauge the relative importance of new
and enhanced feature requests.

Although I don't need it, I thought it was worth offering up a possible
automagic feature that would be a good addition to Declude. I certainly
wasn't going to take offense if anybody shot at the flag I just ran up
the flagpole!  As it turns out, there were a few salutes.

I'm still on Declude v2.x and am comfortable there, as Don points out,
many of us are waiting for the v3.x to be utterly stable and to have
desired new features before going to it.  As the software is maturing,
so is much of the userbase; there used to be a lot of early adopters
when the releases were coming out fast and furious.

Andrew 8)


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
 Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 1:13 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Feature request: DELETEVIRUSNAME
 
 Ok you're right exactly as you was when HOP was introduced. 
 Such a little feature request was not worth neither the half 
 of all messages in this topic. Additionaly the entire Declude 
 staff seems to be in holidays.
 So I have to write another time my own post-solution.
 
 Markus
 
 
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown
  Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 5:32 AM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Feature request: DELETEVIRUSNAME
  
  A single piece of software can't possibly be all things to 
 all people.
  I think the best that can be expected is that it reasonably 
 addresses 
  all, or most, of those objectives which the user community shares.
  
  It is easy to say that it only costs $xx when it's not your 
 money, the 
  same as it is to say that it will only take 30 lines of 
 code when you 
  don't have to write it, test it, maintain it and fix it when it 
  breaks.
  
  I was the culprit who introduced the HOP feature in Declude a long 
  time ago. It was effective back then in combating dynamic 
 servers in 
  the delivery chain. As intimate as Scott was with his code and with 
  the challenges we all faced, we debated it on and off the 
 list for a 
  long time, before he was convinced it would be a good thing for the 
  entire user community. IOW, he had to see the beef - the evidence, 
  that there was an issue and that it was one which Declude could 
  address effectively.
  
  Scott is gone and Imail has changed requiring a major overhaul in 
  Declude.  Many of the old timers on this list are still NOT running 
  the most current release, due to certain challenges and anomalies.
  
  I'm not trying to be a horses tail or beat you up and there 
 is nothing 
  personal involved. I just think that unless a feature 
 request can be 
  justified with facts, which you admit that yours cannot, that we 
  refrain from distracting the community and particularly the 
 people at 
  Declude.
  
  I'd rather see Declude keep pumping the water out of the 
 bilge to the 
  point they can fix the hull, rather than taking the time to 
 hang a new 
  pennant from the mast.  Wouldn't you?
  
  Thanks,
  
  
  Friday, January 27, 2006, 6:05:46 PM, Markus Gufler 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  MG I hav no stat's or numbers.
  
  MG Only the fact that AV-Engines has introduced a suspicious
  category
  MG that is catching more and more new outbreaks. Additionaly
  it seems
  MG that the scanning process is becoming more and more 
 complex. Each 
  MG variant (we have up to two-letter versions!) seems to
  need complete
  MG new definitions. Another more
  MG alarming: certain virus-signatures seems catching only a
  part of one
  MG single but polymorphic and encrypted virus variant.
  
  MG Try to send a vb-script containing one single call of the 
  MG filesystem-object even if zipped or with renamed file
  extension trough some av-engines.
  MG DELETEVIRUS ON will delete the entire message and you
  will have to
  MG tell some fairy story to the customer who call you
  because he misses some messages.
  
  MG Don't deleting messages immediately as many of us do is one way.
  MG Adding 5 DELETEVIRUSNAME-lines in the global.cfg would 
 be a very 
  MG simple possibility to keep clean and small the virus
  folder. And I
  MG repeat: It should be something very very simple to
  implement. Anyone
  MG who doesn't want or need it could simply not turn it on.
  
  MG Regarding the allready existing FORGINGVIRUS DNS lookup
  feature and
  MG a possible enhancement like AUTODELETEKNOWNWORMS.
  MG I wouldn't say that I don't trust declude's FORGINGVIRUS
  list. But
  MG first of 

[Declude.Virus] Feature request: DELETEVIRUSNAME automagic

2006-01-27 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Markus would find this handy (as would other die-hards who are often see
to post in this forum) and would be willing to maintain a small list of
entries for which he would like this behaviour.

However, in addition to the FORGINGVIRUS DNS lookup feature that Declude
already implements*, perhaps they would be interested in also
implementing a DNS lookup feature for known virus names that customers
could just delete out of hand.

This would of course require ongoing maintenance on their part, and
trust from their customers.  Declude would provide a new switch to
govern this behaviour, which would default to OFF, e.g.

AUTODELETEKNOWNWORMS ON

Thus, Markus would be satisfied with being able to manually pick and
choose which virus families to delete, and administrators who want less
hands-on involvement could turn ON this feature to save disk space.

*The existing feature exists to skip email notification when the scanner
engine returns the name of a known virus/worm that Declude knows forges
the MAILFROM.  The FORGINGVIRUS x feature is a manual version of
this feature that lets the Declude customer add in more viruses.  As far
as I know, Declude.com does not keep a public list of the virus names
that they test for via DNS.  Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of
this.

Andrew 8)



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
 Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:37 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Feature request: DELETEVIRUSNAME
 
 Maybe someone has already requested it:
 
 Why not allow commands like 
 
 DELETEVIRUSNAME Netsky
 DELETEVIRUSNAME Bagle
 ...
 
 in the virus.cfg file?
 
 I won't and can't delete all viruses on our server because 
 there is always the possibility that a scanner is catching 
 something as suspicious or generic 
 
 But commands to delete certain virusnames should be very easy 
 to implement and allow us to eliminate  95% of all hold 
 viruses on out servers.
 
 Markus
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Feature request: DELETEVIRUSNAME automagic

2006-01-27 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



No Matt, it wouldn't be a complete solution for you 
orme. We don't trust DELETE actions at all.

Markus however, is ok with a DELETE action, as with many 
others, so I'm pretty confident that they would be ok with an autodelete as 
well, while trusting that Declude.com isn't going to make a mistake with a bad 
keyword listing such as "suspicious" or "virus" (as opposed to desired behaviour 
like "nyxem", "netsky", "bagle", "mytob", "sober".

For you and me, I think we'd want a"HOLD 
[Path[\]][%DATE%]" action in the DecludeEVA product that let us specify a 
different HOLD folder. Any add-on web scripts that those ISPs or 
Gatewaying companies have developed so that the end-user can self-service 
theirspam/virus folder would not include this secondary HOLD folder and 
the ISPcould take timed and scripted actions on these folders as they see 
fit.

To make that work, we would then want a mechanism to 
distinguish the detected viruses and move the *.smd files to the correct HOLD 
folder accordingly. But that's a different thread, eh?

Andrew 8)



  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  MattSent: Friday, January 27, 2006 10:09 AMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Feature 
  request: DELETEVIRUSNAME automagic
  I thought that AV false positives can occur with definitions for 
  known virus names. In other words, if a message gets tagged as Bagle, it 
  might be legit 0.1% of the time. So would this really be a complete 
  solution?MattColbeck, Andrew wrote: 
  Markus would find this handy (as would other die-hards who are often see
to post in this forum) and would be willing to maintain a small list of
entries for which he would like this behaviour.

However, in addition to the FORGINGVIRUS DNS lookup feature that Declude
already implements*, perhaps they would be interested in also
implementing a DNS lookup feature for known virus names that customers
could just delete out of hand.

This would of course require ongoing maintenance on their part, and
trust from their customers.  Declude would provide a new switch to
govern this behaviour, which would default to OFF, e.g.

AUTODELETEKNOWNWORMS ON

Thus, Markus would be satisfied with being able to manually pick and
choose which virus families to delete, and administrators who want less
hands-on involvement could turn ON this feature to save disk space.

*The existing feature exists to skip email notification when the scanner
engine returns the name of a known virus/worm that Declude knows forges
the MAILFROM.  The FORGINGVIRUS x feature is a manual version of
this feature that lets the Declude customer add in more viruses.  As far
as I know, Declude.com does not keep a public list of the virus names
that they test for via DNS.  Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of
this.

Andrew 8)



  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:37 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Feature request: DELETEVIRUSNAME

Maybe someone has already requested it:

Why not allow commands like 

DELETEVIRUSNAME Netsky
DELETEVIRUSNAME Bagle
...

in the virus.cfg file?

I won't and can't delete all viruses on our server because 
there is always the possibility that a scanner is catching 
something as "suspicious" or "generic" 

But commands to delete certain virusnames should be very easy 
to implement and allow us to eliminate  95% of all hold 
viruses on out servers.

Markus

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[Declude.Virus] My quick and dirty virus stats

2006-01-27 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



Just because it's easy to produce...

This is from the viruses that get caught as spam from Dec 
01 2005 through yesterday:



  
  
  
  
  
 
  13 
Suspicious program in Archive
  
 
  1 
Suspicious program
  
 
  5 
Unknown Virus
  
 
  57 
W32/Bagle
  
 
  1 
W32/Banker
  
 
  13 
W32/Brepibot
  
 
  28 
W32/Kapser
  
 
  33 
W32/Klez
  
 
  108 
W32/Mitglieder
  
 
  13 
W32/Mydoom
  
 
  665 
W32/Mytob
  
 1,124 
W32/Netsky
  
 5,607 
W32/Sober
  
 
  1 
W32/Torvil
  
 
  5 
W32/Zafi

Andrew 8)








RE: [Declude.Virus] Feature request: DELETEVIRUSNAME

2006-01-27 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
 IIRC, the HOLD action was where the risk came in.  Messages 
 that are held by Declude using AVAFTERJM and then manually 
 re-queued (via, say, the old SpamReview app) would NOT be 
 scanned for viruses at all, since
 re-queued messages bypass Declude altogether.   

snip

 At the very least, Declude should add a warning to the manual 
 around AVAFTERJM that says that AVAFTERJM and HOLD should not 
 be used in the same configuration.
 
 --DH

Dan, this is all implementation dependent.  Your observed behaviour is
not universal to Declude deployments.

Specifically, re-queued messages on IMail systems do indeed get scanned
by Declude JunkMail and EVA when the Q*.SMD is moved to the overflow
folder (as opposed to being moved to the spool folder with the D*.SMD
file).

Given this re-queuing method, I disagree with your conclusion.  I do
agree that there is a gap in the functionality and/or the manual on how
re-queuing is accomplished and what the wrinkles are.

Andrew 8)


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 11:12 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Feature request: DELETEVIRUSNAME
 
 
 HOLD is the only 'semi-final' action.  All other actions 
 either deliver the email to an mbox (in which case it is 
 scanned by EVA), or remove the message completely (which is 
 where the saved cycles come in).  
 
 IMO, AVAFTERJM should be changed so that only deleted emails, not held
 ones, by pass the AV scan.   In other words, all messages should be
 first scanned for spam, then the ones that are not DELETED 
 should all be scanned for viruses.  This would close the 
 security risk from re-queued messages.  The AVAFTERJM option 
 would then only be useful for those that use the DELETE 
 action, but with the huge security risk involved in 
 requeueing unscanned messages I think that it is ALREADY only 
 useful for those that use the DELETE action.  Unfortunately 
 the manual isn't clear on this point.
 
 At the very least, Declude should add a warning to the manual 
 around AVAFTERJM that says that AVAFTERJM and HOLD should not 
 be used in the same configuration.
 
 --DH
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 1:54 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Feature request: DELETEVIRUSNAME
 
 HOLD, DELETE, ETC - Does not get virus scanned with AVAFTERJM 
 ROUTETO, SUBJECT, Etc - Does get virus scanned. 
 
 Think of it this way anything that ends up being delivered 
 somewhere (i.e. 
 mailbox etc) gets scanned. 
 
 Darrell 
 
 
 Matt writes: 
 
  This is the crux of the issue that I would like to figure out. 
  
  I am however under the impression that if you DELETE a message, 
  Declude Virus never gets it.  I suspect that HOLD and 
 MAILBOX are also
 that way.
  I am unsure about ROUTETO, and that is what really matters to me. 
  
  As far as savings of resources, it is apparently huge, 
 especially for 
  those running multiple virus scanners.  Virus scanning 
 takes more CPU 
  than all but the biggest JunkMail configs (things like 
 custom filters 
  with thousands of lines of BODY or ANYWHERE searches).  I 
 know that on
 
  my system I Delete about 70% of all messages, ROUTETO about 
 10%, and 
  deliver about 20%.  I would like to save on scanning what I would 
  otherwise be deleting with JunkMail.
  
  Matt
  
   
  
  Keith Johnson wrote: 
  
  Markus,
 However, Darrell mentioned that the AV scanner still runs once 
  action is taking agains the SPAM message (i.e. routeto, subject,
 etc.).
  Is this not true? 
  
  Keith
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
  Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:03 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Feature request: DELETEVIRUSNAME
  
  

  
  So, with or without AVAFTERJM, it looks like each message 
 is scanned
 
  by the virus scanner (which makes sense to me).
  
  
  
  Wrong... if you block the messages on the servers: 
  
  As we know usualy 50% of all incomming messages are spam.
  We know too that resource usage of one or two scan-engines is way 
  above the entire spam filtering even if you use 5-6 external 
  applications like sniffer, inv-uribl, spamchk, ...
  
  So if you're spam filters are set up properly they will 
 filter out at
 
  least 50% of all incomming messages before they will reach the 
  av-engines.
  
  Markus
  
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Feature request: DELETEVIRUSNAME

2006-01-26 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
 Do you mean this script on my disk who creates one hour each 
 day with 100% CPU usage?

Markus, I found that a pretty fun bit of sarcasm.  But I have a dry
sense of humour.

It sounds like you're not using AVAFTERJM so that you catch viruses as
viruses and spam as spam.

In this scenario I'm pretty confident that you could automate grepping
your virMMDD.log file hourly, look for a pre-set list of virus names,
cut up the Q* column to derive the filename, and delete the Q*.SMD and
D*.SMD file, for example, this line:

01/24/2006 18:54:38 QE867AAFA0144EA71 File(s) are INFECTED [
W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 3]

Is quite easy to parse.

Let me share something similar I've done.  I've remarked on it vaguely
before...

I wanted to nail down some of my statistics, and as that evolved, I
wanted to know how much of the inbound mail that is blocked as spam was
actually viral.  It turned out that I block a lot of viruses as spam
because they have the same IP source characteristics, malformed headers,
fake source domains and so forth as zombie spam (no surprise, they're
much the same machines).

Like you, I have a system that blocks a ton of mail, so I run AVAFTERJM
to cut down on the work, and this definitely leaves a gap in my
statistics.  Similarly, it follows that I wouldn't want to scan my whole
SPAM folder.  Even reading the directory of the filenames is a disk
workout.

During our slow period (nightly) I do a scheduled run of a .cmd script
that uses the GNU utilities to check my Declude logs for the held spam
for that day only, I weed out ones that triggered SNIFFERMALWARE or my
own Declude filter tests for viruses, then from that subset I have a
list of Q* names.

From that Q* column, I can form the filename.  I then grep each one of
those files for strings that would indicate that there is a possibly
viral attachment (it's not perfect), and then on the remainder of the
filenames, I invoke my F-Prot scanner and check the result code for each
file.  This isn't ideal, but I found that invoking it every time with
specific filenames was far, far faster than scanning a folder.  Windows
certainly caches the fpcmd and pattern files, so that definitely helps.

How much am I saving?  Well, I am scanning all the files in some
fashion, but I'm doing grep for some spam and grep plus antivirus for
the minority of it, and I'm doing it outside of our busy hours.

It takes *two hours*, and produces results like this in a day:
Viruses caught by Declude Virus after using AVAFTERJM: 1
Messages caught by filters or Sniffer: 349
Messages scanned after hours: 25,000
Viruses found after hours: 378

So, I time-shifted away from normal hours the CPU and disk hit of doing
the scanning, and I still get my virus statistics without causing a
performance problem at night.  The resulting logs are easily grepped for
virus names and counts if I want.  I use another set of scripts to
compile the stats at the end of the month, with little to no
maintenance.

It's awful code, but if a non-programmer like me can do this, your
virMMDD.log can be used to delete the messages for viruses you don't
want to keep on disk.

Andrew 8)




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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
 Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:13 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Feature request: DELETEVIRUSNAME
 
 
 
  As a work around until and if Declude adds the requested 
 feature, you 
  could write a script to search the files on a timed based 
 for a phrase 
  (virus
  name) and have it delete them.
 
 Do you mean this script on my disk who creates one hour each 
 day with 100% CPU usage?
 
 Markus
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Mail.zip from AOL Encrypted Messaging Service?

2006-01-20 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Mail.zip from AOL Encrypted Messaging Service?



You've caught an instance of the "Feebs" 
worm.

HTA in email should automatically be suspect. I won't 
go as far as to say it should be banned, but it's not a bad idea. Myself, 
I've never seen an "HTML help file" sent in email.

There is an old vulnerability in Internet Explorer (dating 
back to 2003) for which HTA is the vector; it's mostly abused by malicious 
websites to install software (toolbars, spyware, adware). Despite it's 
age, it's a very popular exploit.


Andrew 8)


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hirthe, 
  AlexanderSent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:51 PMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] Mail.zip from AOL 
  Encrypted Messaging Service?
  
  Hello, 
  I got a mail.zip from "AOL Encrypted Messaging 
  Service", including a .hta file with encrypted content. Does'nt look good to 
  me :)
  Has anyone else seen this mail? Does anyone know DadaMail? 
  --- Received: from thbafiqcm.com [217.198.112.101] by siller.de 
  with ESMTP  (SMTPD-8.22) id 
  A9DB33088; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:26:35 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:28:38 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: 
  DadaMail 2.1 Reply-To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Priority: 3 
  (Normal) Message-ID: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Suspect 
  Mail]Encrypted Message Service MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: 
  multipart/mixed; boundary="ABCD6E90" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0603-3, 18.01.2006), Outbound message 
  X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2006 18:36:26.0852 (UTC) 
  FILETIME=[419F3240:01C61D27] 
  --ABCD6E90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 
  --ABCD6E90 Content-Type: application/x-zip-compressed; name="mail.zip" 
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mail.zip" 
  
  --ABCD6E90-- --- 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus?

2006-01-18 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



No, you shouldn't block .mim 
attachments.

The .mim 
attachment means that there was a MIME formatted, which is encoding that 
converts binary attachments and non-ASCII text to nice and safe 7 bit ASCII 
encoding to make SMTP servers happy.

You are mostly likely to see this when an entire message 
is inserted as an attachment, for example, to preserve the 
headers.

Your antivirus solution will decode that attachment and 
find a virus inside. F-Prot and Trend Micro offerings certainly 
do.

Andrew 8)


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark 
  ReimerSent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:43 PMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New 
  Virus?
  
  Should we be blocking .mim file types? One of the new viruses that was 
  blocked was a .mim file type. What is it used for?
  
  Mark ReimerIT Project ManagerAmerican 
  CareSource214-596-2464
  
-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Markus 
GuflerSent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:39 AMTo: 
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New 
Virus?
That's exactly how I use the notifications. 


Markus


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, 
  AndrewSent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:48 AMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New 
  Virus?
  
  I agree completely.
  
  I use the postmaster notification only, so only 
  internal notifications happen. I use the FORGINGVIRUS statements to 
  limit what we have to see.
  
  Recently, we had a single "macro virus" type issue, 
  and that was where a HTML based Microsoft Word document used a document 
  template that was referenced as a URL. F-Prot flagged that as a 
  potential vulnerability and our postmaster account was duly 
  notified. After vetting the attachmeent, the message was internally 
  re-queued for the user.
  
  I can barely remember theincident before 
  that. The notificationsalways turn out to be flagging a new 
  worm.
  
  Andrew.
  
  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
MattSent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:36 PMTo: 
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New 
Virus?
Regarding the names, this is why I would recommend that 
people completely abandon any form of postmaster and sender bounce 
messages for detected viruses...it's just too much to keep up with 
without creating backscatter, and most won't bother to keep up with it 
regardless because they don't know how to or don't pay attention to such 
things.Just like Scott change BOUNCE to BOUNCEONLYIFYOUMUST (and 
refused to answer questions directly about why things no longer worked 
so that users could be tested for their worthiness of continuing to use 
the functionality), I think that it would be good for the community at 
large if postmaster.eml and sender.eml were changed to 
postmasteronlyifyoumust.eml and senderonlyifyoumust.eml while also 
promoting the idea of abandoning this functionality.I have seen 
statistics from one of the AV companies showing that macro viruses 
accounted for less than 1% of all such viruses detected if I recall the 
exact percentage properly. From the perspective of E-mail, I 
believe the only messages that are end-user initiated that should be 
detected by our scanners are macro and hoax viruses. These are 
very rare, probably far less than 1% of what is blocked by E-mail 
systems since macro viruses don't mass mail. I think it's safe 
therefore to assume that even if a virus wasn't forged (some use the 
infected computer's user instead of a random or predefined one), that it 
wasn't user initiated and avoid notifying them for fear of creating 
backscatter.MattColbeck, Andrew wrote: 
A kapser was detected on my F-Prot based system today.

I'm attaching the output of the scan from virustotal.com for your
interest.

I also scanned it with my TrendMicro which detects it by a different
name:

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM%5FG
REW%2EA

You might add:

FORGINGVIRUS KAPSER
FORGINGVIRUS GREW
FORGINGVIRUS WORM

To your virus.cfg to cover the various naming conventions in the various
engines, particularly that last one.

I'll submit the virus to Symantec if someone could point me to the right
way to do that; they're the only big name that doesn't detect this
malware.

Andrew.

  
  -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Reimer
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:42 PM
To: 

RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus?

2006-01-17 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
A kapser was detected on my F-Prot based system today.

I'm attaching the output of the scan from virustotal.com for your
interest.

I also scanned it with my TrendMicro which detects it by a different
name:

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM%5FG
REW%2EA

You might add:

FORGINGVIRUS KAPSER
FORGINGVIRUS GREW
FORGINGVIRUS WORM

To your virus.cfg to cover the various naming conventions in the various
engines, particularly that last one.

I'll submit the virus to Symantec if someone could point me to the right
way to do that; they're the only big name that doesn't detect this
malware.

Andrew.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Reimer
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:42 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus?
 
 I think this started happening after I updated my F-prot 
 virus defs to 16th.
 Does anyone else see this?
 
 Mark Reimer
 IT Project Manager
 American CareSource
 214-596-2464
 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Reimer
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:32 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] New Virus?
 
 
 I saw an entry in my virus log to day for [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Has anyone else seen this? I cannot find any information on it.
 
 Mark Reimer
 IT Project Manager
 American CareSource
 214-596-2464
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus?

2006-01-17 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



I agree completely.

I use the postmaster notification only, so only internal 
notifications happen. I use the FORGINGVIRUS statements to limit what we 
have to see.

Recently, we had a single "macro virus" type issue, and 
that was where a HTML based Microsoft Word document used a document template 
that was referenced as a URL. F-Prot flagged that as a potential 
vulnerability and our postmaster account was duly notified. After vetting 
the attachmeent, the message was internally re-queued for the 
user.

I can barely remember theincident before that. 
The notificationsalways turn out to be flagging a new 
worm.

Andrew.


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  MattSent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:36 PMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New 
  Virus?
  Regarding the names, this is why I would recommend that people 
  completely abandon any form of postmaster and sender bounce messages for 
  detected viruses...it's just too much to keep up with without creating 
  backscatter, and most won't bother to keep up with it regardless because they 
  don't know how to or don't pay attention to such things.Just like 
  Scott change BOUNCE to BOUNCEONLYIFYOUMUST (and refused to answer questions 
  directly about why things no longer worked so that users could be tested for 
  their worthiness of continuing to use the functionality), I think that it 
  would be good for the community at large if postmaster.eml and sender.eml were 
  changed to postmasteronlyifyoumust.eml and senderonlyifyoumust.eml while also 
  promoting the idea of abandoning this functionality.I have seen 
  statistics from one of the AV companies showing that macro viruses accounted 
  for less than 1% of all such viruses detected if I recall the exact percentage 
  properly. From the perspective of E-mail, I believe the only messages 
  that are end-user initiated that should be detected by our scanners are macro 
  and hoax viruses. These are very rare, probably far less than 1% of what 
  is blocked by E-mail systems since macro viruses don't mass mail. I 
  think it's safe therefore to assume that even if a virus wasn't forged (some 
  use the infected computer's user instead of a random or predefined one), that 
  it wasn't user initiated and avoid notifying them for fear of creating 
  backscatter.MattColbeck, Andrew wrote: 
  A kapser was detected on my F-Prot based system today.

I'm attaching the output of the scan from virustotal.com for your
interest.

I also scanned it with my TrendMicro which detects it by a different
name:

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM%5FG
REW%2EA

You might add:

FORGINGVIRUS KAPSER
FORGINGVIRUS GREW
FORGINGVIRUS WORM

To your virus.cfg to cover the various naming conventions in the various
engines, particularly that last one.

I'll submit the virus to Symantec if someone could point me to the right
way to do that; they're the only big name that doesn't detect this
malware.

Andrew.

  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Reimer
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:42 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus?

I think this started happening after I updated my F-prot 
virus defs to 16th.
Does anyone else see this?

Mark Reimer
IT Project Manager
American CareSource
214-596-2464


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Reimer
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:32 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] New Virus?


I saw an entry in my virus log to day for [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Has anyone else seen this? I cannot find any information on it.

Mark Reimer
IT Project Manager
American CareSource
214-596-2464


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RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus?

2006-01-17 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
A virus by any other name would stink just as much:

http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?rssstoryid=1051


Andrew 8)


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 Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:54 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus?
 
 I've seen many of this Kapser.A today. I've added it to the 
 forging virus list and (oops) forgot to write it on the 
 Declude.Virus list.
 
 As we can see more and more that AV-Companies has forgotten 
 how to call one Virus using one name we should maybe begin to 
 enhance their naming convention by an initial name of the av-company.
 
 Something like: F-ProtW32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Markus
 
  
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Colbeck, Andrew
  Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:21 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus?
  
  A kapser was detected on my F-Prot based system today.
  
  I'm attaching the output of the scan from virustotal.com for your 
  interest.
  
  I also scanned it with my TrendMicro which detects it by a different
  name:
  
  http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VNam
  e=WORM%5FG
  REW%2EA
  
  You might add:
  
  FORGINGVIRUS KAPSER
  FORGINGVIRUS GREW
  FORGINGVIRUS WORM
  
  To your virus.cfg to cover the various naming conventions in the 
  various engines, particularly that last one.
  
  I'll submit the virus to Symantec if someone could point me to the 
  right way to do that; they're the only big name that doesn't detect 
  this malware.
  
  Andrew.
  
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   Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:42 PM
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   Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus?
   
   I think this started happening after I updated my F-prot
  virus defs to
   16th.
   Does anyone else see this?
   
   Mark Reimer
   IT Project Manager
   American CareSource
   214-596-2464
   
   
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   Subject: [Declude.Virus] New Virus?
   
   
   I saw an entry in my virus log to day for [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Has anyone else seen this? I cannot find any information on it.
   
   Mark Reimer
   IT Project Manager
   American CareSource
   214-596-2464
   
   
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus?

2006-01-16 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I haven't seen it.  It's also not unusual for F-Prot to have a signature
for a virus, but no write up on their website.

If the virus was caught, you could submit the attachment to one of the
free websites that will check an executable against multiple virus
engines and give you a summary of which engines detect it, and what they
they call it, e.g.

http://www.virustotal.com/

http://virusscan.jotti.org/


Andrew 8)



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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Reimer
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:42 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Virus?
 
 I think this started happening after I updated my F-prot 
 virus defs to 16th.
 Does anyone else see this?
 
 Mark Reimer
 IT Project Manager
 American CareSource
 214-596-2464
 
 
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 Subject: [Declude.Virus] New Virus?
 
 
 I saw an entry in my virus log to day for [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Has anyone else seen this? I cannot find any information on it.
 
 Mark Reimer
 IT Project Manager
 American CareSource
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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot 3.16f

2006-01-10 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Another buffer overflow has been found in ClamAV and ClamWin, this time
in decompressing UPX packed executables, which is fairly common for
virus and spyware variants.  See:

http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/01/clam_antivirus_.html

The current ClamWin version is 0.88 here:

http://www.clamwin.com/download/

Andrew 8)

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Sober.z

2006-01-06 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I haven't checked today's results with fpcmd 3.16f, but here are
yesterday's quick stats with fpcmd 3.16e

  8 W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  3 W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 27 W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  1 W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 10 W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  9 W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 81 W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

So, yes, Sober is detected by at least 3.16f ... and going the extra
mile, I've just looked up a few samples from yesterday's log and scanned
those manually with fpcmd, and sure enough, 3.16f also detects them and
produces the same output.

Perhaps you are not seeing Sober hits in Declude virus because you're
using the AVAFTERJM setting and your Declude JunkMail is doing a
fantastic job of catching them as spam before your Declude Virus would
get called.

Andrew.



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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J Porter
 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:53 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sober.z
 
 Yep... I upgraded to FProt 3.16e and noticed the slowdown. I 
 thought it was a problem with that version, so I upgraded to 
 the 3.16f which was released today. Still no Sober viruses caught.
 
 I'm still wondering if I should go back to 3.16d. Anyone 
 seeing Sober caught with these last 2 updates of F-Prot??
 
 ~Joe
 
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 From: Bruce Loughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:03 AM
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Sober.z
 
 
  Has any one else noticed that sober.z just stopped today?
 
  I was getting hundreds a day and now I have 0.
  Wasn't this the day it was to morph?
 
  Bruce L.
  AFM
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Sober.z

2006-01-06 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Easy way to check if your Declude Junkamil is catching your viruses.
Check for the subject lines and see if you held those messages (or
whatever you do with your spam).

I just sorted out the subject lines for the sober.z only messages, and
here are the ones I received:

Paris Hilton  Nicole Richie
You visit illegal websites
You_visit_illegal_websites
Your IP was logged
Your_IP_was_logged

Andrew 8)
 

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 8:53 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sober.z
 
 I haven't checked today's results with fpcmd 3.16f, but here 
 are yesterday's quick stats with fpcmd 3.16e
 
   8 W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   3 W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  27 W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   1 W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  10 W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   9 W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  81 W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 So, yes, Sober is detected by at least 3.16f ... and going 
 the extra mile, I've just looked up a few samples from 
 yesterday's log and scanned those manually with fpcmd, and 
 sure enough, 3.16f also detects them and produces the same output.
 
 Perhaps you are not seeing Sober hits in Declude virus 
 because you're using the AVAFTERJM setting and your Declude 
 JunkMail is doing a fantastic job of catching them as spam 
 before your Declude Virus would get called.
 
 Andrew.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J Porter
  Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:53 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sober.z
  
  Yep... I upgraded to FProt 3.16e and noticed the slowdown. 
 I thought 
  it was a problem with that version, so I upgraded to the 
 3.16f which 
  was released today. Still no Sober viruses caught.
  
  I'm still wondering if I should go back to 3.16d. Anyone 
 seeing Sober 
  caught with these last 2 updates of F-Prot??
  
  ~Joe
  
  - Original Message -
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  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:03 AM
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] Sober.z
  
  
   Has any one else noticed that sober.z just stopped today?
  
   I was getting hundreds a day and now I have 0.
   Wasn't this the day it was to morph?
  
   Bruce L.
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Sober.X Variant

2006-01-05 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I just saw two today.  This may not be what you're seeing, JT, but here
goes:

What I saw were two broken Sober.X messages that were bounced with the
original message (the viral message) truncated.  F-Prot didn't trigger
on the broken attachment and the bounce didn't trigger my custom filters
to weed out junk bounces.

The messages made it into my internal mail system, where they were
caught by Trend Micro ScanMail for Exchange.  When I looked up the
details on the virus that was named, the alias matched the Symantec name
for the virus.

Given that it was broken, I regard this as a spam issue, and not a case
of F-Prot failing to detect the damaged Sober virus.  If I can get the
original, I'll submit to F-Prot anyway in the hope that they will come
with a signature.

Andrew 8)
 

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JT
 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 10:39 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sober.X Variant
 
 John,
 
 Thanks for the help!
 
 Regards,
 JT
 
 On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 09:31 -0800, John T (Lists) wrote:
  Into the Virus.cfg file:
  
  BANEZIPEXTS ON
  BANZIPEXTS  ON
  
  John T
  eServices For You
  
  
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   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   On Behalf Of JT
   Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:20 AM
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sober.X Variant
   
   John,
   
   What do I need to do to block banned extensions within zip files
   
   Thanks,
   JT
   
   On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 09:14 -0800, John T (Lists) wrote:
That means you are not blocking banned extensions 
 within zip files?
   
John T
eServices For You
   
   
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of JT
 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:45 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sober.X Variant

 What I am experiencing is that the server lets the virus go 
 through
  the
 system. It scans and result is clean, the end user gets the 
 email and their Symantec Enterprise snags it and tags it as 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 08:25 -0800, John T (Lists) wrote:
  Is this what you are seeing?
 
  http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32feebsa.html
 
  John T
  eServices For You
 
 
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   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   On Behalf Of JT
   Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 6:44 AM
   To: declude.virus@declude.com
   Subject: [Declude.Virus] Sober.X Variant
  
   Has anyone seen an influx of this virus come through? I've
  upgraded to
   the latest F-Prot and it seems like it still 
 sneaking through.
Although
   the Z variant is being stopped by F-prot. Any light that 
   could be
  shed
   on this would be greatly appreciated.
  
   Also I've tried setting up ClamAV for Windows on 
 our imail 
   server
  as a
   scanner. I've got it to scan but it randomly generated an 
   exit
  code of
   50. Does anyone know what exit code 50 from ClamAV means?
  
   Thanks,
   JT
  
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[Declude.Virus] F-Prot and WMF

2006-01-05 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
For what it's worth, I just tested the 3.16d and 3.16e versions of
fpcmd.exe and they behaved identically on the single sample I had.

They return errorlevel = 8 (suspicious file found) and here is the text
when run manually (as opposed to within Declude):

c:\virus-quarantine\wmf\bg.wmf  Contains the exploit named CVE-2005-4560

Then I copied the bg.wmf to bg.tiff and compared them.  For those who
haven't been absorbed by the news of the WMF exploit, Windows uses the
magic bytes in the header of the graphics files to determine their true
file type so that it does not need to rely on a correct extension on the
filename.  The bad guys can then use this to fool users, antivirus
software, and various filters that trust the name, e.g. by sending an
email or linking to a virus.gif instead of virus.wmf ...

Version 3.16d:

c:\temp\virus\wmf\bg.tiff  is a security risk or a backdoor program

With errorlevel = 8

Version 3.16e:

c:\temp\virus\WMF\bg.tiff  Contains the exploit named CVE-2005-4560

Also with errorlevel = 8

I tried a few other extensions with the same results.  In this very
limited testing, the new version is more accurate, but the result is the
same.

Andrew 8)
 

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:48 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-Prot 3.16e
 
 I found this blurb on their site saying what is new for version 3.16e
 
 http://www.f-prot.com/news/gen_news/060104_release_win316e_exc
 hange123.html 
 
 FRISK Software has released versions 3.16e of F-Prot 
 Antivirus for Windows and version 1.2.3 of F-Prot Antivirus 
 for Exchange.
 
 These newest versions of F-Prot Antivirus for Windows and 
 F-Prot Antivirus for Exchange include a number of important 
 bugfixes as well as providing enhanced scanning of Windows 
 Metafile images (WMF) for embedded malware. WMF files 
 disguised, among other things, as JPG images have 
 increasingly been taking advantage of a recently discovered 
 yet serious vulnerability in Windows in order to run 
 malicious code on susceptible machines. 
 
 Successful exploitation of this vulnerability can allow an 
 attacker to gain complete control over an affected computer 
 who can then use it to send out spam e-mail or spread viruses 
 and other malware further. A number of different exploits 
 have a appeared over recent days and these newest versions of 
 F-Prot Antivirus for Windows and F-Prot Antivirus for 
 Exchange detect and delete all known exploits as well as 
 detecting previously unknown malware attempting to take 
 advantage of this WMF vulnerability.
 
 I have not found any other release notes except for one that 
 comes up talking about 3.16c 
 
 http://www.f-prot.com/version_release_dates.html 
 
 3.16d and e do not have release notes on the web page.
 
 Are there any other release notes?
 
 Thanx
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 Omega Network Solutions
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[Declude.Virus] OT: Microsoft will release the WMF patch today instead of next Tuesday

2006-01-05 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/advance.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms06-001.mspx


Andrew 8)




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[Declude.Virus] Another vulnerability in antivirus software exposed

2005-12-20 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



Ouch. Not in the wild yet (most of these 
vulnerabilities don't get to be in the wild), but serious nonetheless due to 
it's potential. If you're not running keeping your Symantec up to date 
with a subscription, you should:

http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2005/12/symantec_antivi.html

Andrew.









RE: [Declude.Virus] Where to send exe's to check if they are a virus?

2005-12-15 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
You can upload it to this website where it will be scanned by all the
leading virus vendors that haven't sent them a cease-and-desist order:

http://www.virustotal.com/flash/index_en.html

And you can also upload it to here to have their 'bot run the
application in a sandbox and report back to you what it does, which may
be obviously viral:

http://sandbox.norman.no/live.html

Andrew 8)
 

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 Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 7:26 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Where to send exe's to check if they 
 are a virus?
 
 Hi,
 
 I am getting a bunch of exe in zip files being banned right 
 now. I have grabbed one of them it is called marie.zip and 
 has a single exe in it called s3700020.exe and when you put 
 it on your desktop is has the standard jpeg icon associated with it. 
 
 My F-Prot, McAfee and Symantec scanners are not finding a 
 virus. Where is the place that you can send it to and have it 
 checked out by a ton of virus scanners?
 
 Thanx
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 Omega Network Solutions
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New Sober to be released, possible variation?

2005-11-15 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
There are very interesting details in Trend Micro's writeup.

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM%5FS
OBER%2EADVSect=T

i.e. it uses its own SMTP server plus a hardcoded list of accounts and
IDs at 27 ISPs, and that it terminates the Microsoft Windows Malicious
Software Removal Tool.

It may be worth mentioning that the BANNAME list that Darin provided
will be useful for those of us using F-Prot only, as they are still not
detecting the variant I've been receiving since this thread started.

Andrew 8)
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 6:05 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New Sober to be released, 
 possible variation?
 
 Most the new Sober variants are expected to be low volume, so 
 I'm not surprised that Netsky.P continues to outstrip them.
 
 Security vendors are varying as to what they are detecting 
 with 6 new Sober variants yesterday and today.  Best bet is 
 to ban the files at least until virus definition files have 
 caught up.  We keep the bans in place for the usual overlap 
 in new variants.
 
 Darin.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:44 AM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Sober to be released, 
 possible variation?
 
 
 Thank you Darin.
 
 just curious after watching our virus logfiles today
 Anyone else can confirm that there are only a few of the 
 today new virus and
 far more netsky (most .p variant) showing up in the logfiles?
 
 Today I've had some reports that certain varaints of the new 
 virus slipped
 trough while it was definitively catching some others.
 
 Markus
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:33 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New Sober to be released,
  possible variation?
 
  I just went through all of the reports.  Here's a list of new
  filenames to
  ban:
 
  # Added 11/15/2005 to handle new Sober.R, S, T, U, V, W variants
  BANNAME email_photo.zip
  BANNAME excel_table.zip
  BANNAME liste.zip
  BANNAME reg_text.zip
  BANNAME registration.zip
  BANNAME tabelle.zip
 
 
  Darin.
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Doug Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New Sober to be released,
  possible variation?
 
 
  Looks like varying attachment names. I got one thats excel_table.zip
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Dodell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: John T (Lists) Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 6:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New Sober to be released,
  possible variation?
 
 
   Monday, November 14, 2005, 10:50:00 PM, John T (Lists) wrote:
  
   Sophos is now calling it Sober-R.
  
   Possible variation received this morning ... the text discussed
   receiving a problem email, and the attachment was email_photo.zip
  
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New Sober to be released, possible variation?

2005-11-15 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
And another one:

BANNAME Mail-Datei.zip

http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136970.htm

I found this latest one after noticing that F-Secure identified 4
versions on Nov-14 and a new one today.

Andrew 8)


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:16 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New Sober to be released, 
 possible variation?
 
 Another one to block...
 
 BANNAME Accept_e-Text.zip
 
 The list so far is
 
 # Added 11/15/2005 to handle new Sober.R, S, T, U, V, W 
 variants BANNAME Accept_e-Text.zip BANNAME email_photo.zip 
 BANNAME excel_table.zip BANNAME foto.zip BANNAME liste.zip 
 BANNAME reg_text.zip BANNAME registration.zip BANNAME 
 tabelle.zip BANNAME word-text.zip
 
 As mentioned before, we keep these in place even after the 
 virus definitions are catching them.  That way new variants 
 that use the names are caught before definitions are available.
 
 Darin.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:57 AM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Sober to be released, 
 possible variation?
 
 
 There are very interesting details in Trend Micro's writeup.
 
 http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VNam
 e=WORM%5FS
 OBER%2EADVSect=T
 
 i.e. it uses its own SMTP server plus a hardcoded list of accounts and
 IDs at 27 ISPs, and that it terminates the Microsoft Windows Malicious
 Software Removal Tool.
 
 It may be worth mentioning that the BANNAME list that Darin provided
 will be useful for those of us using F-Prot only, as they are 
 still not
 detecting the variant I've been receiving since this thread started.
 
 Andrew 8)
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 6:05 AM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New Sober to be released,
  possible variation?
 
  Most the new Sober variants are expected to be low volume, so
  I'm not surprised that Netsky.P continues to outstrip them.
 
  Security vendors are varying as to what they are detecting
  with 6 new Sober variants yesterday and today.  Best bet is
  to ban the files at least until virus definition files have
  caught up.  We keep the bans in place for the usual overlap
  in new variants.
 
  Darin.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:44 AM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Sober to be released,
  possible variation?
 
 
  Thank you Darin.
 
  just curious after watching our virus logfiles today
  Anyone else can confirm that there are only a few of the
  today new virus and
  far more netsky (most .p variant) showing up in the logfiles?
 
  Today I've had some reports that certain varaints of the new
  virus slipped
  trough while it was definitively catching some others.
 
  Markus
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
   Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:33 PM
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New Sober to be released,
   possible variation?
  
   I just went through all of the reports.  Here's a list of new
   filenames to
   ban:
  
   # Added 11/15/2005 to handle new Sober.R, S, T, U, V, W variants
   BANNAME email_photo.zip
   BANNAME excel_table.zip
   BANNAME liste.zip
   BANNAME reg_text.zip
   BANNAME registration.zip
   BANNAME tabelle.zip
  
  
   Darin.
  
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Doug Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:24 AM
   Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New Sober to be released,
   possible variation?
  
  
   Looks like varying attachment names. I got one thats 
 excel_table.zip
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: David Dodell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: John T (Lists) Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 6:50 AM
   Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New Sober to be released,
   possible variation?
  
  
Monday, November 14, 2005, 10:50:00 PM, John T (Lists) wrote:
   
Sophos is now calling it Sober-R.
   
Possible variation received this morning ... the text discussed
receiving a problem email, and the attachment was 
 email_photo.zip
   
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[Declude.Virus] New Sober to be released Nov-15-2005 ?

2005-11-14 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Hmmm, now that's interesting.

http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/#0705


Andrew.





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[Declude.Virus] OT: From Phisher to just a fish

2005-11-04 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
A 20 year old man goes from abusing phish to being abused as a fish:
 
http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,69480,00.html
 
 
Andrew 8)






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[Declude.Virus] F-Prot zip vulnerability reported

2005-11-04 Thread Colbeck, Andrew

Ouch.  F-Prot is very popular on this group.  This vulnerability may
never turn into an exploit, but it's better that we keep abreast of
issues like this.

F-Prot Antivirus Lets Remote Users Bypass the Scanning Engine with
Specially Crafted ZIP Files

http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=820

The article mentions several other security products that have had
recent issues.

I just made a trip to the f-prot website and don't see any update.  Not
much of a surprise given that they were notified only a week ago.

Andrew 8)


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Blast of zips coming in

2005-11-01 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Current F-Prot definitions catch this as a Mitglieder variant, and Trend
Micro reports that they are investigating Bagle.AB

The zip files contain a non-password protected executable; I've noticed
the following names:

Loader.exe
t_535475.exe

Here is an F-Prot report on one catch:

C:\Temp\Virus\Bagle.Newd:\f-prot\scanonly *.*
Virus scanning report  -  1 November 2005 @ 9:49

F-PROT ANTIVIRUS
Program version: 3.16b
Engine version: 3.16.6

VIRUS SIGNATURE FILES
SIGN.DEF created 1 November 2005
SIGN2.DEF created 1 November 2005
MACRO.DEF created 25 October 2005

Search: *.*
Action: Report only
Files: Dumb scan of all files
Switches: /ARCHIVE /PACKED /SERVER /REPORT=d:\f-prot\ScanReport.txt
/NOBOOT /NOMEM /AI
Memory was not scanned.
Hard disk boot sectors were not scanned.

C:\Temp\Virus\Bagle.New\D939EE224010AEFE9.SMD-Business_dealing.zip-Loa
der.exe  is a security risk named W32/Mitglieder.FY

Results of virus scanning:

Files: 1
MBRs: 0
Boot sectors: 0
Objects scanned: 3
Infected: 0
Suspicious: 1
Disinfected: 0
Deleted: 0
Renamed: 0

Time: 0:00

ErrorLevel returned by fpcmd is: [8]
errorlevel 8 = At least one suspicious object was found.




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[Declude.Virus] Another virus seeding run

2005-10-20 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Forewarned is fore-armed.  Blogged by F-Secure here:

http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/#0682

With a writeup on the virus itself here:

http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/rbot.shtml

The email seeding run doesn't contain virus, just a scam plus a URL.  I
haven't seen any yet, so I can't comment on the source IP addresses or
host types.

Andrew 8)

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Slightly OT: Encrypting or Securing Email Content

2005-10-11 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
How about cock of the walk jokes? 

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell 
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 2:44 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Slightly OT: Encrypting or 
 Securing Email Content
 
 Please no talk about sharp objects - I just had a vasectomy a 
 couple of hours ago - oh the pain...
 
 Darrell
 
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 - Original Message -
 From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 5:00 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Slightly OT: Encrypting or 
 Securing Email Content
 
 
 What is wrong with sharp objects? They make nice clean cuts.
 
 Now, it's the blunt ones that I worry about.
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
  Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 1:44 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Slightly OT: Encrypting or 
 Securing Email
 Content
 
  I block all encrypted zips based on the fact that I can't 
 virus scan them.
 
  But then again I'm slightly paranoid and should not be trusted with 
  sharp objects.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Kevin Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Slightly OT: Encrypting or 
 Securing Email 
  Content
 
 
   So it's this forum's consensus that if I have PRO I 
 should not block 
   all EZIPs - I should just block the other extensions even if they 
   are found within ZIP files?
  
   I do send out notices when a file gets blocked, but I don't have a
 requeue
   script in place.  I'll search for one and see what I can 
 do.  Thanks.
  
  
  
   Darin Cox wrote:
  
  If you have Declude Virus/EVA Pro you can switch to banning 
  extensions within zips.  With Standard, you may want to 
 continue to 
  ban encrypted zips.
  
  In either case, you will probably want to send out notices for 
  banned files, notifying the intended recipient that a 
 file sent to 
  them was blocked.
  Include a link in the notification for them to requeue 
 the message 
  if it was legit and they want to receive it.  Scripts to requeue 
  messages have
 been
  posted to the list in the past, but they are very simple 
 to create 
  by
 just
  moving the Q and D files back to the spool directory... possibly 
  going
 as
  far as launching the SMTP32 process to immediately send 
 the message 
  if
 you
  don't want your user to wait for the next queue run.
  
  Darin.
  
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Kevin Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 1:26 AM
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] Slightly OT: Encrypting or Securing Email
 Content
  
  
  We're looking for a simple way to opportunistically allow 
 our users 
  to encrypt or password-protect certain emails and/or their 
  attachments that contain sensitive data.  We're running 
 Declude Pro 
  and have banned EZIP extensions (the highly recommended 
 suggestion 
  from several people on this forum), so that kinda rules out PKZIP 
  and any kind of ZIP program (because as soon as you 
 password-protect 
  a ZIP file, it becomes an EZIP file).  We looked at PGP, but it 
  seems very complex and seems to require a hardware proxy 
 in between 
  our mail server and the Net.  Is there a simple and 
 effective way to 
  encrypt or password protect documents for email transmission that 
  doesn't cause problems with Imail or Declude and doesn't 
 require software to be installed on the recipient's end?
  
  Thanks.
  
  Kevin
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RE: [Declude.Virus] New variant as of 15 minutes ago

2005-10-06 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



#New 
Sober.R aka CME-151 
per http://cme.mitre.org... expectGerman right-wingpropaganda in a few days 
Oct-05-2005 ACBANNAME pword_change.zipBANNAME 
screen_photo.zipBANNAME KlassenFoto.zipBANNAME Regis.info.zipBANNAME 
Privat-Foto.zipBANNAME Brief.zip

banned extensions for both flavours as 
per:

http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/sober_s.shtml

Andrew 
8)

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  MattSent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:55 AMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.Virus] New variant 
  as of 15 minutes ago
  John,It was an EXE file. Pretty much all zip viruses 
  are these days. I only received 8 of these in a 15 minute period and 
  then it was over with for at least that one variant. I am guessing that 
  gmx.de is aware of the issue and taking steps to prevent it. Shame on 
  them for being exploitable as a relay (plenty of others like Yahoo and HotMail 
  also should share some blame for lax procedures).I have one thing to 
  add however. This one came from gmx.net as well as 
  gmx.de.MattJohn T (Lists) wrote: 
  




Matt, what is the 
payload inside the zip?


John 
T
eServices For 
You


-Original 
Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of MattSent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 9:32 
AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] New variant as 
of 15 minutes ago

Same servers, but this time 
it has a Regis.info.zip 
attachment and the subject is "Registration 
Confirmation".Basically I converted to blocking any zips below 
200 KB that come from these providers with some filtering and it seems to be 
working.Matt


RE: [Declude.Virus] PING

2005-09-29 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
PONG 

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
 Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 8:15 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] PING
 
 PING
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning

2005-09-20 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



FYI, Kaspersky reports that they're now up to something 
like 20 new variants of Bagle between Monday and Tuesday.

Andrew 8)


  

  

  


RE: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning

2005-09-20 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



... and F-Secure notes that they've hit a record of 
publishing 12 pattern updates in one day.

Andrew 8)


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  MattSent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 11:28 AMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad 
  virus this morning
  Oops, McAfee just slipped. Since 1:09 p.m. EST on my system 
  we received 52 undetected zips (just over an hour). We caught these all 
  with a custom filter.MattColbeck, Andrew wrote: 
  

FYI, Kaspersky reports that they're now up to something 
like 20 new variants of Bagle between Monday and 
Tuesday.

Andrew 8)


  

  

  


RE: [Declude.Virus] McAfee DailyDAT download location change.

2005-09-12 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



Mr. Obvious says:

You would have to change the URL plus the name of the file 
you're unzipping!

So that I didn't have to change my script much, I changed 
my wget line to:

wget http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/beta_packages/win_netware_betadat.zip 
-O dailyscan.zip

The -O parameter tells wget to save the requested file with 
that particular filename.

I think that NAI/McAfee changed the path as part of the web 
interface change to funnel people through their EULA. When I follow it 
through, the web interface takes you to a filenames that now have a dynamic 
instead of static name.

If they change the URL again, we may need a smarter script 
that can scrape out the correct name from the webpage. Hopefully, they'll 
bring the static name back, perhaps parallel to the Stinger 
download.

Andrew 8)

p.s. I only use McAfee as a backup, standalone 
scanner. Not part of my Declude at all.


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  MattSent: Monday, September 12, 2005 12:58 PMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.Virus] McAfee 
  DailyDAT download location change.
  I changed the subject so that people can be alerted to this. 
  Announcements of things like this would be useful to the entire Declude 
  customer base. I am afraid that we are a little over a month 
  behind. Those with a single scanner would be screwed.I adjusted 
  my scripts to use the link that you provided and it does in fact work just 
  great...so far :)Thanks,MattScott Fisher 
  wrote: 
  



Great catch Matt.
Mine's gone too since August 2
Thank you Declude for multiple virus scanner 
option.

Try:
http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/beta_packages/win_netware_betadat.zip

From:
http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.unix.amavis-user/browse_thread/thread/890f45b2e1cfdec9/61f1bcbcc4e71848?lnk=stq=dailydatrnum=1hl=en#61f1bcbcc4e71848



  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Matt 
  
  To: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.com 
  
  Sent: 
  Monday, September 12, 2005 2:26 PM
  Subject: 
  Re: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning
  This is a new Bagel variant: http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_129588.htmI 
  was wrong about what was detecting it first...it was F-Prot. I just 
  figured out that my McAfee update script is no longer working. Does 
  anyone have a newer link to the daily DAT's than http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/daily_dats/DailyDAT.zip.Thanks,MattJohn 
  Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: 
  OK, so it is cpl file, which we should all have in our list of banned
extensions including banned if within a zip file, so we should all be safe,
correct?

John T
eServices For You


  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  
On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:49 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning

I opened the zip file and it contained one file called "1.cpl" (without
the
  
quotes).  Some sort of malicious Control Panel applet?

- Original Message -
From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:55 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning



  What is the payload inside the zip?

John T
eServices For You


  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  
On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 7:52 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning

FYI, We found a rapidly spreading zip virus beginning at about 8:15
a.m.
  

  
this morning, first coming from Eastern Europe.  McAfee seems to be
detecting all of them now, but F-Prot as of this moment is not on our
system.  Every attachment name seemingly contained the word "price".
Here's a quick filter that I had put together for it:

HEADERSENDNOTCONTAINSboundary="
BODYENDNOTCONTAINSattachment; filename="
BODYENDNOTCONTAINS.zip" Content-Transfer-Encoding
BODY15CONTAINS price

Matt
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning

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Hmm, yes.

Something along the lines of:

wget ftp://ftp.nai.com/pub/antivirus/datfiles/4.x/update.ini

and then parsing out the line:

FileName=dat-4579.zip

or

DATVersion=4579

in order to construct the filename... but it seems like 
re-inventing the wheel. The readme.txt talks abouta SuperDAT 
downloading mechanism, which sounds exactly like the F-Prot GUI 
downloader.


Andrew 8)



  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick 
  HayerSent: Monday, September 12, 2005 1:35 PMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad 
  virus this morning
  Hi Matt - Matt wrote: 
  I was 
wrong about what was detecting it first...it was F-Prot. I just 
figured out that my McAfee update script is no longer working. Does 
anyone have a newer link to the daily DAT's than http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/daily_dats/DailyDAT.zip.This 
  link works -ftp.nai.com/pub/antivirus/datfiles/4.x-Nick
  Thanks,MattJohn Tolmachoff (Lists) 
wrote: 
OK, so it is cpl file, which we should all have in our list of banned
extensions including banned if within a zip file, so we should all be safe,
correct?

John T
eServices For You


  
  -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  
  On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:49 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning

I opened the zip file and it contained one file called "1.cpl" (without
the
  
  quotes).  Some sort of malicious Control Panel applet?

- Original Message -
From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:55 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning



What is the payload inside the zip?

John T
eServices For You


  
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 7:52 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning

FYI, We found a rapidly spreading zip virus beginning at about 8:15
a.m.
  
  

  this morning, first coming from Eastern Europe.  McAfee seems to be
detecting all of them now, but F-Prot as of this moment is not on our
system.  Every attachment name seemingly contained the word "price".
Here's a quick filter that I had put together for it:

HEADERSENDNOTCONTAINSboundary="
BODYENDNOTCONTAINSattachment; filename="
BODYENDNOTCONTAINS.zip" Content-Transfer-Encoding
BODY15CONTAINS price

Matt
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning

2005-09-12 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



Scott, in various older versions of wget, the -N 
parameteras well as the --header=Accept-Encoding:gzip parameterplain 
old didn't work. Pick up the current version here:

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/hherold/#Files

andit should be fine.

Andrew 8)


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott 
  FisherSent: Monday, September 12, 2005 2:28 PMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad 
  virus this morning
  
  -Matt,
  
  Does the wget -N command work for you with 
  Mcafee.
  I also use the -N and get the full download every 
  time.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Matt 

To: Declude.Virus@declude.com 
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 4:13 
PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly 
bad virus this morning
Nice script, but the executables don't change regularly, and 
many of us are using the command line version of McAfee that requires an 
unvalidated download. This also doesn't get the beta DAT's.I 
use a script that calls both wget and WinZip's free command line add-on 
(requires a registered WinZip). It is easy enough to replace that with 
any other command line unzipping tool. Personally I find WinZip to be 
perfectly reliable so I'm sticking with it.
C:\Progra~1\wget\wget --limit-rate=1000k --progress=dot -t 3 
  -N -P C:\Progra~1\McAfee\update\ http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/beta_packages/win_netware_betadat.zip 
  21 | find "100%%"IF ERRORLEVEL 1 GOTO 
  ENDC:\Progra~1\WinZip\wzunzip -ybc 
  C:\Progra~1\McAfee\update\win_netware_betadat.zip 
  C:\Progra~1\McAfee\:ENDENDLOCALMattMarkus 
Gufler wrote: 

  
  attached you can find a script (I'm not the creator 
  of this script but can't remember who's the genius) that will download the 
  superdats and also the dailydat-files, extract all necessary virus 
  definitiions and also engine updates, write any action to a logfile and 
  keep the downloaded superdats so that you can't revert manualy if it would 
  be necessary.
  
  You need some command line tools like unzip and wget 
  and adapt the path information in the script for your 
  needs.
  
  This script works on my server now for years and I 
  hope it will do so also if now a lot of people will run it on their 
  servers.
  
  Markus
  
  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Colbeck, AndrewSent: Monday, September 
12, 2005 10:49 PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: 
RE: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this 
morning
Hmm, yes.

Something along the lines of:

wget ftp://ftp.nai.com/pub/antivirus/datfiles/4.x/update.ini

and then parsing out the line:

FileName=dat-4579.zip

or

DATVersion=4579

in order to construct the filename... but it seems 
like re-inventing the wheel. The readme.txt talks abouta 
SuperDAT downloading mechanism, which sounds exactly like the F-Prot GUI 
downloader.


Andrew 8)



  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Nick HayerSent: Monday, September 12, 
  2005 1:35 PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: 
  Re: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this 
  morningHi Matt - Matt wrote: 
  I 
was wrong about what was detecting it first...it was F-Prot. I 
just figured out that my McAfee update script is no longer 
working. Does anyone have a newer link to the daily DAT's than 
http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/daily_dats/DailyDAT.zip.This 
  link works -ftp.nai.com/pub/antivirus/datfiles/4.x-Nick
  Thanks,MattJohn Tolmachoff 
(Lists) wrote: 
OK, so it is cpl file, which we should all have in our list of banned
extensions including banned if within a zip file, so we should all be safe,
correct?

John T
eServices For You


  
  -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  
  On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:49 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning

I opened the zip file and it contained one file called "1.cpl" (without
the
  
  quotes).  Some sort of malicious Control Panel applet?

- Original Message -
From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:55 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning



What is the payload inside the zip?

John T
eServices 

RE: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning

2005-09-12 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



 which is all well and good, but...

It worked fine for the update.ini, but not for the .zip 
file.The currentstable versionofwgetdoes in 
download a full file every time.

Andrew 8)


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, 
  AndrewSent: Monday, September 12, 2005 2:47 PMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad 
  virus this morning
  
  Scott, in various older versions of wget, the -N 
  parameteras well as the --header=Accept-Encoding:gzip 
  parameterplain old didn't work. Pick up the current version 
  here:
  
  http://xoomer.virgilio.it/hherold/#Files
  
  andit should be fine.
  
  Andrew 8)
  
  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott 
FisherSent: Monday, September 12, 2005 2:28 PMTo: 
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly 
bad virus this morning

-Matt,

Does the wget -N command work for you with 
Mcafee.
I also use the -N and get the full download 
every time.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Matt 
  
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 4:13 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] 
  Seemingly bad virus this morning
  Nice script, but the executables don't change regularly, 
  and many of us are using the command line version of McAfee that requires 
  an unvalidated download. This also doesn't get the beta 
  DAT's.I use a script that calls both wget and WinZip's free 
  command line add-on (requires a registered WinZip). It is easy 
  enough to replace that with any other command line unzipping tool. 
  Personally I find WinZip to be perfectly reliable so I'm sticking with 
  it.
  C:\Progra~1\wget\wget --limit-rate=1000k --progress=dot -t 3 
-N -P C:\Progra~1\McAfee\update\ http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/beta_packages/win_netware_betadat.zip 
21 | find "100%%"IF ERRORLEVEL 1 GOTO 
ENDC:\Progra~1\WinZip\wzunzip -ybc 
C:\Progra~1\McAfee\update\win_netware_betadat.zip 
C:\Progra~1\McAfee\:ENDENDLOCALMattMarkus 
  Gufler wrote: 
  

attached you can find a script (I'm not the creator 
of this script but can't remember who's the genius) that will download 
the superdats and also the dailydat-files, extract all necessary virus 
definitiions and also engine updates, write any action to a logfile and 
keep the downloaded superdats so that you can't revert manualy if it 
would be necessary.

You need some command line tools like unzip and 
wget and adapt the path information in the script for your 
needs.

This script works on my server now for years and I 
hope it will do so also if now a lot of people will run it on their 
servers.

Markus


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Colbeck, AndrewSent: Monday, September 
  12, 2005 10:49 PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: 
  RE: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this 
  morning
  Hmm, yes.
  
  Something along the lines 
  of:
  
  wget ftp://ftp.nai.com/pub/antivirus/datfiles/4.x/update.ini
  
  and then parsing out the 
  line:
  
  FileName=dat-4579.zip
  
  or
  
  DATVersion=4579
  
  in order to construct the filename... 
  but it seems like re-inventing the wheel. The readme.txt talks 
  abouta SuperDAT downloading mechanism, which sounds exactly like 
  the F-Prot GUI downloader.
  
  
  Andrew 8)
  
  
  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Nick HayerSent: Monday, September 12, 
2005 1:35 PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: 
Re: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this 
morningHi Matt - Matt wrote: 
I was wrong about what was detecting it first...it 
  was F-Prot. I just figured out that my McAfee update script 
  is no longer working. Does anyone have a newer link to the 
  daily DAT's than http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/daily_dats/DailyDAT.zip.This 
link works -ftp.nai.com/pub/antivirus/datfiles/4.x-Nick
Thanks,MattJohn Tolmachoff 
  (Lists) wrote: 
  OK, so it is cpl file, which we should all have in our list of banned
extensions including banned if within a zip file, so we should all be safe,
correct?

John T
eServices For You


  

RE: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning

2005-09-12 Thread Colbeck, Andrew



A very basic:

wget -N http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/beta_packages/win_netware_betadat.zip

was not working when Scott (and then I) tried 
it. But it does now, including with the -O parameter. I'd 
hazard a guess that they have some kind of front-end webcache or cluster, and 
things weren't perfectly synched.

I'm using 1.10-something.

Andrew 8)


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  MattSent: Monday, September 12, 2005 3:35 PMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad 
  virus this morning
  Scott and Andrew,It does in fact work on my system. 
  I'm using Wget 1.8.1+cvs. The beta definitions do change very 
  frequently, so this might throw you off. Try executing a derivative of 
  the following command twice and see what happens (remove the line break and 
  adjust the paths):C:\Progra~1\wget\wget --limit-rate=1000k 
  --progress=dot -t 3 -N -P C:\Progra~1\McAfee\update\ http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/beta_packages/win_netware_betadat.zipMattScott 
  Fisher wrote: 
  



-Matt,

Does the wget -N command work for you with 
Mcafee.
I also use the -N and get the full download 
every time.

  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Matt 
  
  To: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.com 
  
  Sent: 
  Monday, September 12, 2005 4:13 PM
  Subject: 
  Re: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this morning
  Nice script, but the executables don't change regularly, 
  and many of us are using the command line version of McAfee that requires 
  an unvalidated download. This also doesn't get the beta 
  DAT's.I use a script that calls both wget and WinZip's free 
  command line add-on (requires a registered WinZip). It is easy 
  enough to replace that with any other command line unzipping tool. 
  Personally I find WinZip to be perfectly reliable so I'm sticking with 
  it.
  C:\Progra~1\wget\wget --limit-rate=1000k --progress=dot -t 3 
-N -P C:\Progra~1\McAfee\update\ http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/beta_packages/win_netware_betadat.zip 
21 | find "100%%"IF ERRORLEVEL 1 GOTO 
ENDC:\Progra~1\WinZip\wzunzip -ybc 
C:\Progra~1\McAfee\update\win_netware_betadat.zip 
C:\Progra~1\McAfee\:ENDENDLOCALMattMarkus 
  Gufler wrote: 
  

attached you can find a script (I'm not the creator 
of this script but can't remember who's the genius) that will download 
the superdats and also the dailydat-files, extract all necessary virus 
definitiions and also engine updates, write any action to a logfile and 
keep the downloaded superdats so that you can't revert manualy if it 
would be necessary.

You need some command line tools like unzip and 
wget and adapt the path information in the script for your 
needs.

This script works on my server now for years and I 
hope it will do so also if now a lot of people will run it on their 
servers.

Markus


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Colbeck, AndrewSent: Monday, September 
  12, 2005 10:49 PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: 
  RE: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this 
  morning
  Hmm, yes.
  
  Something along the lines 
  of:
  
  wget ftp://ftp.nai.com/pub/antivirus/datfiles/4.x/update.ini
  
  and then parsing out the 
  line:
  
  FileName=dat-4579.zip
  
  or
  
  DATVersion=4579
  
  in order to construct the filename... 
  but it seems like re-inventing the wheel. The readme.txt talks 
  abouta SuperDAT downloading mechanism, which sounds exactly like 
  the F-Prot GUI downloader.
  
  
  Andrew 8)
  
  
  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Nick HayerSent: Monday, September 12, 
2005 1:35 PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: 
Re: [Declude.Virus] Seemingly bad virus this 
morningHi Matt - Matt wrote: 
I was wrong about what was detecting it first...it 
  was F-Prot. I just figured out that my McAfee update script 
  is no longer working. Does anyone have a newer link to the 
  daily DAT's than http://download.nai.com/products/mcafee-avert/daily_dats/DailyDAT.zip.This 
link works -ftp.nai.com/pub/antivirus/datfiles/4.x-Nick
Thanks,MattJohn Tolmachoff 
  (Lists) wrote: 
  OK, so it is cpl file, which we should 

RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown

2005-09-09 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
According to this:

http://loadrunner.uits.iu.edu/weathermaps/abilene/

Most of the major links on the Internet are very busy.  Interestingly,
the Houston-Atlanta link is back up, and was hard down due to Katrina
for a week.

Andrew 8)

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rodney Bertsch
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:30 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
 Hello all!
 
 This may be off topic, but has anyone else experienced a 
 sudden Internet
 slowdown this morning starting about 11:00 EST?   We have 
 locations across
 the country and are experiencing problems in about half our 
 locations, most using SBC DSL for Internet service.  Our 
 primary Telnet app is DOA in these locations and e-mail and 
 web surfing is slow everywhere.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Rodney Bertsch
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown

2005-09-09 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
No problem, Darin.

We'll have Newfoundland reboot it.  They're half an hour off of
everybody else.

Andrew 8)
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:55 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
 You mean 4AM ET... We do have some sickos over here that get 
 up to go to work then perhaps we could just send them 
 over to you to solve this whole problem.  If not, perhaps we 
 could just insert an hour between 1am PT/4am ET and 1:00:01am 
 PT/4:00:01am ET.  That would fix it.
 
 Darin.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:42 PM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
 
 Nope, we here on the West coast protested loudly. We clearly 
 stated it could
 not be done before 1 AM. However, 1 AM here is 5 AM in the 
 Atlantic time
 zone, and those people stated it must be done before 5 AM. 
 Therefore the
 normal reboot of the Internet has been on hold for a long 
 time until this
 dispute can be resolved.
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Darin Cox
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:33 AM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
  I thought it was rebooted every night around 3 am ET...
 
  Darin.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Scott Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
 
  You can't do an internet reboot on a Friday. You need to 
 wait until the
  weekend.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
 
   Maybe someone should reboot the Internet.
  
   Matt
  
  
  
   Keith Johnson wrote:
  
  I am seeing this as we attempting to get to certain 
 websites and they
  can't be displayed.
  
  Keith
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Rodney Bertsch
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:30 AM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
  
  Hello all!
  
  This may be off topic, but has anyone else experienced a 
 sudden Internet
  slowdown this morning starting about 11:00 EST?   We have 
 locations
  across
  the country and are experiencing problems in about half 
 our locations,
  most
  using SBC DSL for Internet service.  Our primary Telnet 
 app is DOA in
  these
  locations and e-mail and web surfing is slow everywhere.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Rodney Bertsch
  
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown

2005-09-09 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Them: When can we have it?

Me: Tomorrow.

Them: No, if we wanted it tomorrow, we'd ask for it tomorrow!


Andrew 8)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
 Tolmachoff (Lists)
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:39 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
 
 NO NO NO NO
 
 Then all of our clients will be asking us how come we have 
 not done the work yesterday that they asked us to do tomorrow.
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Darin Cox
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:39 AM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
  
  Hmmm... that gets me thinking... maybe all offices should 
 be located 
  straddling the international date line.  Then if someone wants 
  something done on a particular day, and you missed it, you 
 could just 
  walk over to
 the
  other side of the building, finish it, and tell them it's done.
  
  Darin.
  
  
  - Original Message -
  From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:07 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
  
  
  No problem, Darin.
  
  We'll have Newfoundland reboot it.  They're half an hour off of 
  everybody else.
  
  Andrew 8)
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
   Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:55 AM
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
  
   You mean 4AM ET... We do have some sickos over here that 
 get up to 
   go to work then perhaps we could just send them over 
 to you to 
   solve this whole problem.  If not, perhaps we could just 
 insert an 
   hour between 1am PT/4am ET and 1:00:01am PT/4:00:01am ET.  That 
   would fix it.
  
   Darin.
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
   Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:42 PM
   Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
  
  
   Nope, we here on the West coast protested loudly. We 
 clearly stated 
   it could not be done before 1 AM. However, 1 AM here is 5 
 AM in the 
   Atlantic time zone, and those people stated it must be 
 done before 5 
   AM.
   Therefore the
   normal reboot of the Internet has been on hold for a long 
 time until 
   this dispute can be resolved.
  
   John T
   eServices For You
  
  
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:33 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
   
I thought it was rebooted every night around 3 am ET...
   
Darin.
   
   
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From: Scott Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
   
   
You can't do an internet reboot on a Friday. You need to
   wait until the
weekend.
   
- Original Message -
From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown
   
   
 Maybe someone should reboot the Internet.

 Matt



 Keith Johnson wrote:

I am seeing this as we attempting to get to certain
   websites and they
can't be displayed.

Keith

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
   Rodney Bertsch
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:30 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown

Hello all!

This may be off topic, but has anyone else experienced a
   sudden Internet
slowdown this morning starting about 11:00 EST?   We have
   locations
across
the country and are experiencing problems in about half
   our locations,
most
using SBC DSL for Internet service.  Our primary Telnet
   app is DOA in
these
locations and e-mail and web surfing is slow everywhere.

Thanks,

Rodney Bertsch

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RE: [Declude.Virus] IP list of reported virus infections

2005-08-16 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Hmmm. I don't specifically remember that, John.  But this is a handy
place to check:

http://www.dshield.org/warning_explanation.php

DShield is fed by volunteers who run whatever firewall or IDS they like
and submit the logs to DShield.  It's an offshoot of the SANS Internet
Storm Center.

A site of similar vintage is free for personal use, but I don't know if
you have the ability to query for an arbitrary IP:

http://www.mynetwatchman.com/

Meanwhile, Norton/Symantec have a similar site at but I'm pretty sure
that you have to sign up to query their database.  It's free to use but
is subscription based for full support on alerts and fancy reports:

http://analyzer.securityfocus.com/


McAfee runs a similar site but it's informational only:

http://www.hackerwatch.org/


Andrew 8)


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
 Tolmachoff (Lists)
 Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 6:20 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] IP list of reported virus infections
 
 About a year ago, Scott quietly introduced a web page were we 
 could go to enter the IP of say our server to check to see if 
 any viruses had been reported coming from that IP.
 
 Does any one know is that site still available and is so what 
 is the URL for it?
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
 
 
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RE: Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Outlook 'CR' Vulnerability from Thunderbird ???

2005-08-12 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
David, with your version of Declude Virus, you'd have to turn off all 10
of the CR vulnerability checks at one go.  I'm at the same or similar
version, and that's what I've decided to do.  This directive goes in
your virus.cfg:

BANCRVIRUSESOFF

Andrew 8) 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Dodell
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:11 PM
 To: Matt
 Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.Virus] Outlook 'CR' Vulnerability 
 from Thunderbird ???
 
 Thursday, August 11, 2005, 8:50:32 PM, Matt wrote:
 
  With 2.0.6.16, which is available from the Declude site, 
 you can turn 
  off the Outlook CR Vulnerability.  I have turned off all 
 but a couple 
  of these because of numerous false positive issues.
 
 Unfortunately, I'm still at 1.82 due to budget limitations 
 ... our new budget kicks in December, and I'm still debating 
 if I should upgrade Imail and Declude or switch to Smartmail 
 and Declude  (definitely will be staying with Declude 
 virus/spam) ... I thought there was a way to turn off the 
 testing with 1.82 too, but couldn't find it in the control file ??
 
  there was ever an exploit spreading actively in the wild, I would 
  rethink my position.  I believe that Microsoft has long 
 since patched 
  the flaw, though it can certainly cause parsing issues in virus 
  scanners that could lead to missing the payloads due to a 
 message that 
  was improperly formatted.
 
 My experience is similar, but 99% of the stuff caught has 
 been spam anyway, so I haven't worried about it ... when I 
 realized today it had caught a legitimate email, I was worried.
 
 Anyone know if there is a way to turn this off in 1.82??
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Expect new Bagle variants

2005-08-12 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I hadn't until last night, Markus.  But now I've got 35 copies from
different sources, all flagged by F-Prot as suspicious files.  F-Prot
detects the executable inside a zip file as a Mitglieder variant, and
submitting it to http://www.VirusTotal.com shows that all the big name
vendors there are detecting it as either a Bagle variant or Mitglieder.

Notably absent is Trend Micro, which I tested on my desktop.  Nope,
TrendMicro doesn't detect it at all. [pause] Actually I'm seeing
multiple versions, at least two of which TrendMicro doesn't catch, but
F-Prot caught all of them as 'suspicious'.

Also, it's pretty clear that the text of the message is a template, and
that template was used to send the nuisance message I reported in the
Sniffer forum a week ago.

Andrew 8)


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 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:49 PM
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 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Expect new Bagle variants
 
  It looks as though the Bagle author is back from his 
 vacation. Today 
  we've detected several new variants (actually old variants 
 which have 
  been repacked) and they are still coming in.
 
 
 I can see some unknown virus detections in the last 24 hours.  
 
 Markus
 
 
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