[Elecraft] PBT presets for SSB filters?

2006-06-16 Thread John Rader
I want set up my K2 with some selctable PBT presets and perhaps just 2 
filter widths. I frequently use +150 to +250 Hz with my other rig for narrow 
1.8kHz filters.  I am currently just using the KDSP2 filter with decreasing 
filter widths and no offsets. What are K2 users favorite ways for setting 
the KSB2 and KDSP2 for peset CalFil offsets and filter widths for SSB?

John K5XTX

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Re: [Elecraft] Re: Italy Customs Duties

2006-06-16 Thread Peppino Berria

--- Mario Lorenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: 

 Peppino,
 
 the customs tariff really is EU wide, the VAT is
 not.
 With the elecraft code, and the paperwork that once
 was done
 by the DARC you should be able to get your K2 kit
 including
 all options in easily at 0% Customs.
 
 What is not EU wide is the VAT, but you do pay that
 on any
 goods you buy anywhere. According to Google, VAT in
 Italy is 20%.
 So of $1719, assuming an exchange rate of 1.20 USD
 to the EUR,
 youre at 1432 EUR import price, and thus you get a
 VAT in the
 range you mentioned.

Mario, 
let me disagree. 
As a first, you're assuming the invoice total amount,
including shipping and handling (105 $): no VAT is due
on this part, normally.
As a second, you must know that in Italy the carriers
employees and store-keepers (UPS, TNT, FEDEX, GLS,
etc.) fill the forms for customs duty: so there's no
possibility to talk about the problem with customs
staff.
As a third, last but not least, a kit is a kit
(didactic finalities), it's not a final product: in
other words, we can't assume a radio-kit (spare
parts) like an efficient TX/RX equipment (final
product). For that, in Italy there're different VAT
degrees and 20% is the higher one (not luxury goods).
73, Peppino IS0YPS 



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[Elecraft] KX1 C1: on top or on the bottom?

2006-06-16 Thread pa3gyu
The manual says C1 (4.7 pF) shoud be mounted on the top side of the board, 
which is also where it's outline is printed. But the schematic in Appendix 
B indicates it should be 5pF and mounted on the bottom.


Can I savely assume the schematic to be wrong?

Bart de PA3GYU

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Re: [Elecraft] Century 22 vs. K2.

2006-06-16 Thread N2EY
In defense of the Ten Tec:

- The Century 22 is a design from about 20 years ago. A lot has changed!

- The C22 was the bottom-of-the-line for Ten Tec when it was made.Lots of 
compromises in the design.

- IIRC, the C22 receiver is not a superhet like the K2 or K1. It's a form of 
direct conversion, which means you hear both sides of zero beat, doubling the 
apparent QRM. All the selectivity is audio, and so is the AGC. 

- The tuning rate of the C22 is about 18 kHz per turn of the knob. That's a 
lot faster than the K2, making the band seem more crowded, since one turn takes 
you through a lot more signals.

Both are good rigs. 

73 de Jim, N2EY
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RE: [Elecraft] KX1 C1: on top or on the bottom?

2006-06-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bart,

Yes, mount C1 on the top of the board and 4.7 pf is fine.  The instructions
are updated more frequently than the schematics, so in case of disagreement,
follow the instructions.

With all Elecraft kits, the priority should be errata sheets first, manual
instructions second, and everything else after that.

73,
Don W3FPR


 -Original Message-

 The manual says C1 (4.7 pF) shoud be mounted on the top side of
 the board,
 which is also where it's outline is printed. But the schematic in
 Appendix
 B indicates it should be 5pF and mounted on the bottom.

 Can I savely assume the schematic to be wrong?

 Bart de PA3GYU


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[Elecraft] Begali, bygolly. Which one Simplex or Mag Classic?

2006-06-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm sold on Begali keys.  But not sure which one to get.  Has anyone used both 
the Simplex and Magnetic Classic who might comment on the comparison?  Also, 
how about a Begali vs Schurr Profi comparo?  If I had more dough, I would order 
all three, but that is not the case here.
 
I have a Bencher and a homebrew I made in 1963.  I seem to make slightly fewer 
errors on the homebrew than the Bencher.  They both work well,  and I am not 
knocking the Bencher, but I suspect the Begalis are superior to both . 
 
Comments would be very welcome.
 
Thanks, George, n4ym
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AW: [Elecraft] Re: Italy Customs Duties

2006-06-16 Thread Peter Zenker
 
Peppino,
 
 As a first, you're assuming the invoice total amount, 
 including shipping and handling (105 $): no VAT is due on 
 this part, normally.

That´s definitively wrong for whole EC. VAT has to be paid on Shipping cost
as well. 




73 de Peter, DL2FI 

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RE: [Elecraft] Century 22 vs. K2.

2006-06-16 Thread Darwin, Keith

I said:
  QSK in the C22 is not as good as the K2.  The C22 gives thumps and
pops
 in the headphones and speaker during QSK.  K2 is far smoother and 
 quieter.

Ron Replied:
 I am surprised! Ten Tec is known for QSK rigs.
 Perhaps some aging components are in need of service.

Well, it could be that.  Or maybe a prior owner modified the rig.  I
noticed the variable filter has a center freq that seems about 500 Hz
rather than the as-designed 750 Hz.  I'm thinking I'll open it up and
have a look around in the area of that circuit to see if there are any
changed components.

Still, the QSK on every TenTec rig I've had has been just a bit thumpy.
Argo 515 (sold it - stupid, stupid, stupid) , Argo 509, Omni D, Omni V,
Corsair II, Century 21 and now the Century 22.  All sweet rigs, all had
good QSK but each one was a bit on the thumpy side.  The Century 21 was
really bad.  Still they are far better than a non-QSK rig.

The K2 I find to generate less extraneous nose on TR switch than those
rigs, although it is not completely clean either.

I was actually quite happy with TenTec's QSK.  I'm even happier with
Elecraft's.  I'm getting' a hankerin' for a K1.

And YES, I am quite a bit older.  I had my first C22 in about 1987 or
1988.  Yikes.

- Keith KD1E -
- K2 5411 -
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RE: [Elecraft] High End Paddles

2006-06-16 Thread Darwin, Keith
After using a few Bencher BY-1  BY-2 paddles, I picked up a used Kent
paddle.  I think I spent $90 used for it.  It is far better than the
Bencher stuff and not that much more.

Many people are happy with the BY paddles.  As for me, I'm not going
back.

- Keith KD1E -
- K2 5411 -

 

-Original Message-
From: Darrell Bellerive

With the new K2, and the need to test the built-in keyer, a friend lent
me his Bencher BY-1 paddle. What a difference! Although I still need
lots of practice, I can use this paddle.

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RE: [Elecraft] Century 22 vs. K2.

2006-06-16 Thread Darwin, Keith
All true Jim.  Actually I enjoy the C22.  Yes, it has a direct
conversion receiver but I find the rig's simplicity enjoyable.  RX
performance really isn't too bad at all.  It handles the crud on 40
meters far better than the Century 21.  VFO tuning rate to me is just
right.  I'm an old school guy who actually expects to turn the knob
slowly to tune slowly through the band.

The crowded band issue was obviously due to the DC receiver picking up
twice the signals.  Well, that coupled with signals leaking around the
filter producing high freq tones.  But, crank the filter to it's
narrowest setting and most of these issues go away.

And the rig has the key jack on the front!  How totally cool!

- Keith KD1E -
- K2 5411, my real rig. -
- Century 22, just for fun - 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:32 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Century 22 vs. K2.

In defense of the Ten Tec:

- The Century 22 is a design from about 20 years ago. A lot has changed!

- The C22 was the bottom-of-the-line for Ten Tec when it was made.Lots
of compromises in the design.

- IIRC, the C22 receiver is not a superhet like the K2 or K1. It's a
form of direct conversion, which means you hear both sides of zero beat,
doubling the apparent QRM. All the selectivity is audio, and so is the
AGC. 

- The tuning rate of the C22 is about 18 kHz per turn of the knob.
That's a lot faster than the K2, making the band seem more crowded,
since one turn takes you through a lot more signals.

Both are good rigs. 

73 de Jim, N2EY
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Re: [Elecraft] High End Paddles (Kent)

2006-06-16 Thread Mike Markowski
If you want to buy Kent and save a few dollars, the kit form is at

http://www.kent-engineers.com/twinkit.htm

Even with shipping to the US, it was cheaper when I bought the paddles 2
years ago than from any US distributor I could find.  I wasn't able to
find it in kit form in the US, and I haven't compared prices lately.  So
you might want to double check.  Great paddles, though, and worth every
penny.  73!

Mike  ab3ap

Darwin, Keith wrote:
 After using a few Bencher BY-1  BY-2 paddles, I picked up a used Kent
 paddle.  I think I spent $90 used for it.  It is far better than the
 Bencher stuff and not that much more.
 
 Many people are happy with the BY paddles.  As for me, I'm not going
 back.
 
 - Keith KD1E -
 - K2 5411 -
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Darrell Bellerive
 
 With the new K2, and the need to test the built-in keyer, a friend lent
 me his Bencher BY-1 paddle. What a difference! Although I still need
 lots of practice, I can use this paddle.
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Re: [Elecraft] High End Paddles

2006-06-16 Thread drew.neve
I'd kind of like to hear from some more people who have used those Black Widow 
paddles that we got a glimpse of on this list a while ago.  They looked 
intriguing.

CPT Drew Neve - 9K2/KB9LLO
Battle Captain
S3 ASG-Kuwait
Eager to Assist

- Original Message -
From: Mike Markowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, June 16, 2006 4:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] High End Paddles (Kent)

 If you want to buy Kent and save a few dollars, the kit form is at
 
 http://www.kent-engineers.com/twinkit.htm
 
 Even with shipping to the US, it was cheaper when I bought the 
 paddles 2
 years ago than from any US distributor I could find.  I wasn't 
 able to
 find it in kit form in the US, and I haven't compared prices 
 lately.  So
 you might want to double check.  Great paddles, though, and worth 
 everypenny.  73!
 
 Mike  ab3ap
 
 Darwin, Keith wrote:
  After using a few Bencher BY-1  BY-2 paddles, I picked up a 
 used Kent
  paddle.  I think I spent $90 used for it.  It is far better than the
  Bencher stuff and not that much more.
  
  Many people are happy with the BY paddles.  As for me, I'm not going
  back.
  
  - Keith KD1E -
  - K2 5411 -
  
   
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Darrell Bellerive
  
  With the new K2, and the need to test the built-in keyer, a 
 friend lent
  me his Bencher BY-1 paddle. What a difference! Although I still need
  lots of practice, I can use this paddle.
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Re: [Elecraft] High End Paddles

2006-06-16 Thread David A. Belsley

Darrell:
  The better you get, the less satisfied you will be with the  
Bencher BY-1.  The HEX is quite nice.  I'm not sure what the Bencher  
folks mean by it's being better for people who are used to bugs.  I  
suppose they mean that, because it is heavy and hard to knock around,  
those with robust habits will be better accommodated.  But the HEX is  
perfectly capable of being used by a very, very light touch.  So I  
guess I find their statement misleading.  The Begali paddles are  
quite wonderful, and the Kent are very good.  The WBLs are  
outstanding, but hard to come by. The Mercury paddles are refined HEX  
paddles, and while they are really quite nice, I don't think they are  
worth the rather substantial additional price. The Elecraft version  
of the HEX is a great value.  I suspect if you get a Begali, a HEX,  
or a Kent, you will be very happy.  Within this upper range of items,  
people tend to think that what they have is the best.  That means  
they are all doing the job just fine.


best wishes,

dave belsley, w1euy



On Jun 15, 2006, at 11:56 PM, Darrell Bellerive wrote:

I sure have enjoyed this thread on high end paddles. I have so far  
mostly used
just a straight key, but with my new K2 and it's built in keyer I  
would like

to give iambic operation another go.

I had a Heathkit uMatic keyer, model SA-5010, with the capacitive  
touch
paddles. Had lots of trouble getting used to those paddles so I  
purchased a
Vibroplex Iambic Deluxe. Well, I was not much better with those, so  
I gave up

on the world of keyers and went back to my straight key. I did use the
memories in the uMatic though.

A few years later I discovered the article by Chuck Adams, K7QQ, on  
using an
iambic paddle. I found I was using the slap the paddle around the  
desk method
and seldom used the iambic function of the keyer but treating the  
paddles
more like a single lever. Resetting the Vibroplex paddle as Chuck  
recommends

and learning to send with a light touch helped, but I still was having
trouble. Ended up selling the paddle when someone wanted the paddle  
for their

collection and I needed a few bucks.

With the new K2, and the need to test the built-in keyer, a friend  
lent me his

Bencher BY-1 paddle. What a difference! Although I still need lots of
practice, I can use this paddle.

Reading the Bencher web site it suggests that the BY-1 series is  
better for
those using a light touch than the Hex Paddle, which is for those  
more used

to a bug.

That seems to run contradictory to what I read in this thread and  
on eHam. So,

do those of you who have used both the BY-1 and Hex Paddle agree with
Bencher's views? Is the BY-1 really better for those using a light  
touch?


With little money to spend, and a KPA100 and KAT100 also on the  
wishlist, I am
wondering if I should look for a good used BY-1, and save for a  
better paddle
down the road. I doubt I will reach 20 wpm for a few years and I am  
just

learning how to properly use an iambic paddle. Is there a downside to
learning with a BY-1 and then moving to something else?

Or would it be better to learn with a better paddle from the start?  
The HEXKEY
and Begali Simplex would run in the $215-250 range in Canadian  
dollars. The
Begali magnetic paddles would add another $140 to the price. The  
Begali
Signature would set me back about $475. Used Bencher BY-1's from  
eBay would

cost me less than $100 Canadian dollars.

Probably not the best apples and oranges comparison, but I doubt I  
will find
many used HEXKEYs, Begalis, or other high end paddles for sale. I  
would also
be hesitant about buying such an expensive key on eBay for fear of  
getting

one that has been abused.

I'd like to hear your opinions and thoughts on my paddle selection,

Darrell


--
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Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA
Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada
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[Elecraft] KNB2

2006-06-16 Thread Joe Squarzini
My experience with the KNB2 is completely negative. I even built a 
second one, tweaked etc. It does not even compare to ICOM or Yaesu 
NB's. Wayne, time to redesign. No more spin on what it was designed 
to do. No matter what it was designed to do, it doesn't eliminate or 
reduce the most typical noise I encounter. The others do.I love 
Elecraft. I have built every kit except the K1.73  Joe K4AA


Joe Squarzini, Jr.
K4AA

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Re: [Elecraft] High End Paddles

2006-06-16 Thread Darrell Bellerive
Quotes from the Bencher website at http://www.bencher.com/whichpaddle.html:

Frankly, the BY series paddle, like a fine sports car or a surgical scalpel, 
does not respond well to the heavy physical input such operators are 
comfortable with. But that is how old time CW operators, trained on the bugs 
and single lever paddles, learned their craft. 
If you are one of these operators, for you Bencher offers the innovative new 
Hex Paddle. This paddle too is fully iambic, and very nearly as responsive as 
the BY series paddles, yet is also designed to stand up to the most physical 
of operators, thanks to the floating instrument grade ball bearing races and 
magnetic paddle return, not to mention the massive base.

The BY series, thanks to its unique pivot-pin bearings, is simply the most 
responsive iambic paddle available today.

So, according to Bencher, the BY series is more responsive than the Hex.

Darrell

On June 16, 2006 06:22 am, David A. Belsley wrote:
 I'm not sure what the Bencher
 folks mean by it's being better for people who are used to bugs.  I
 suppose they mean that, because it is heavy and hard to knock around,
 those with robust habits will be better accommodated.  But the HEX is
 perfectly capable of being used by a very, very light touch.  So I
 guess I find their statement misleading.


-- 
Darrell Bellerive
Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA
Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada
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[Elecraft] Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 26, Issue 17

2006-06-16 Thread Paul Quillen N4LCD





Alsoif you have a nut that you can thread onto the
screw before filing, when you back it off after the filing
is done it will help restore the threads on the screw.


Better yet, put a die on the screw before filing, and when you turn 
the die off, it will cut the threads clean.


Paul, N4LCD



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Re: [Elecraft] High End Paddles

2006-06-16 Thread David A. Belsley
Quotes from the Bencher website at http://www.bencher.com/ 
whichpaddle.html:


Frankly, the BY series paddle, like a fine sports car or a  
surgical scalpel,

does not respond well to the heavy physical input such operators are
comfortable with. But that is how old time CW operators, trained on  
the bugs

and single lever paddles, learned their craft.


The BY paddles are plain and simply not at all like a fine sports  
car.  They are more like an old-style Beetle (or possible a Yugo).


If you are one of these operators, for you Bencher offers the  
innovative new
Hex Paddle. This paddle too is fully iambic, and very nearly as  
responsive as
the BY series paddles, yet is also designed to stand up to the most  
physical
of operators, thanks to the floating instrument grade ball bearing  
races and

magnetic paddle return, not to mention the massive base.


I have no doubt that pounders will appreciate the HEX for its mass,  
and it can be adjusted to accommodate heavy fists.  It can also be  
adjusted to be very, very light -- much lighter than can the BY  
paddles, which begin to stick and hang up and become extremely  
frustrating.




The BY series, thanks to its unique pivot-pin bearings, is simply  
the most

responsive iambic paddle available today.


This is pure bunk.

So, according to Bencher, the BY series is more responsive than the  
Hex.


Darrell

On June 16, 2006 06:22 am, David A. Belsley wrote:

I'm not sure what the Bencher
folks mean by it's being better for people who are used to bugs.  I
suppose they mean that, because it is heavy and hard to knock around,
those with robust habits will be better accommodated.  But the HEX is
perfectly capable of being used by a very, very light touch.  So I
guess I find their statement misleading.



--
Darrell Bellerive
Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA
Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada
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[Elecraft] FS-Kenwood MC-43S

2006-06-16 Thread walter renner
I have an Kenwood MC-43S mike for sale that is excess to my needs, new in 
orginal box.
 Wired for K2 stright across mike header. $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping lower 
48.
E-Mail me direct.

K0ARO
Kurt 
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Re: [Elecraft] Begali, bygolly. Which one Simplex or Mag Classic?

2006-06-16 Thread Vic K2VCO

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Also, how about a Begali vs Schurr Profi comparo?  


I've tried both.  They feel different; the Begali is a little stiffer 
because the pivot is closer to the fingerpieces and the fingerpieces are 
alloy as opposed to plastic, but they are both excellent keys.  It's 
entirely a matter of personal preference.  I personally prefer one to 
the other, but I won't say which because that's just me! :-)

--
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Re: [Elecraft] High End Paddles

2006-06-16 Thread Vic K2VCO

Darrell Bellerive wrote:

Quotes from the Bencher website at http://www.bencher.com/whichpaddle.html:
The BY series, thanks to its unique pivot-pin bearings, is simply the most 
responsive iambic paddle available today.


So, according to Bencher, the BY series is more responsive than the Hex.


The BY bearing is very low-friction.  But so are the ball bearings in 
the Hex key and in the Begali.  One problem with the BY is that the arms 
are somewhat flexible, so there's a bit of 'give', which -- combined 
with the long plastic fingerpieces -- makes it feel mushy compared to 
the other keys mentioned.


I modified a BY by making very small plastic fingerpieces for it.  I had 
to countersink the screw heads so my fingers wouldn't hit them.  It 
feels a little less mushy, but is nowhere as stiff as the Begali.

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[Elecraft] FS - K2 top cover with KAT2 7 KIO2

2006-06-16 Thread n2uz

It's sold.

snip
I just installed the 100 watt option in my basic K2(# 4472) and have no 
use for the top copy with the KAT2 20w tuner and KIO2 rs-232 interface,  
fully wired with speaker,


Jerry , N2UZ

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RE: [Elecraft] High End Paddles

2006-06-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Quotes from the Bencher website at http://www.bencher.com/whichpaddle.html:

Frankly, the BY series paddle, like a fine sports car or a surgical
scalpel, 
does not respond well to the heavy physical input such operators are 
comfortable with. But that is how old time CW operators, trained on the bugs

and single lever paddles, learned their craft. 
If you are one of these operators, for you Bencher offers the innovative new

Hex Paddle. This paddle too is fully iambic, and very nearly as responsive
as 
the BY series paddles, yet is also designed to stand up to the most physical

of operators, thanks to the floating instrument grade ball bearing races and

magnetic paddle return, not to mention the massive base.

The BY series, thanks to its unique pivot-pin bearings, is simply the most 
responsive iambic paddle available today.



Now that is funny! So an operator who is comfortable with a old bug that
uses simple pivot bearings is going to notice a floating instrument grade
ball bearing races?

I can understand how an operator who learned CW on a keyer may have
developed the delicate touch of a watchmaker and may notice the fine
differences in bearings and tensions, but I can't imagine a bug operator
noticing the difference between a properly-adjusted set of pivot bearings
and instrument grade bearings. A bug operator is someone who learned to
send on a key that requires him to launch a heavy pendulum hard enough to
beat out a nice string of dits and then stopping the dits at just the right
instant by slapping the swinging pendulum against a mechanical damper with a
clank, and in between make dashes manually by mashing the lever against
the dash contacts at just the right time. 

There's a lot of finesse in using a bug, but not much in the way of a
watchmakers touch. Using a bug is a very a *physical* activity compared to
keyer paddles. 

Ron AC7AC

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Re: [Elecraft] Begali, bygolly. Which one Simplex or Mag Classic?

2006-06-16 Thread Joe-aa4nn
I am a single lever paddle nut so have the Begali single lever simplex.  It 
is fantastic although I wish it used the magnetic tension adjustment.  The 
spring adjustments are super fine; it just seems more 21st century to be 
using magnetic.  hi


Begali single lever is my favorite amongst single levers like Profi, Kent, 
Ten-Tec Vibroplex, Mon-Key, Jones, G4ZPY and the Ukraine CT Single Lever.


If it's a question of single vs. dual lever, pick your choice and then if it 
is a question of money, get the cheapest.  You won't go wrong with a Begali. 
I hate I missed his booth at Dayton 2006.


de Joe, aa4nn


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Re: [Elecraft] High End Paddles

2006-06-16 Thread Rick Dettinger




 Using a bug is a very a *physical* activity compared to
keyer paddles.

Ron AC7AC

Yes, the way Morse code should be.  A full contact sport.  When my shoulder
gets sore from pumping my Swedish hand key, I switch to my bug for some
rest.
Rick Dettinger
K7MW



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RE: [Elecraft] High End Paddles

2006-06-16 Thread Greg Tomerlin - K4KO

 Using a bug is a very a *physical* activity compared to
 keyer paddles.  Ron AC7AC


Not the way I do it.  :)

http://wilsonarc.org/images/s-n-p_vibroplex_bug-001.jpg

http://wilsonarc.org/images/s-n-p_vibroplex_bug-002.jpg

http://wilsonarc.org/images/n4wsm_snp01.jpg


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[Elecraft] OT: in defense of the BY-series

2006-06-16 Thread Rob Locher W7GH

Hi all,

I've heard criticisms of the Bencher BY-series paddles over and over again  
on this reflector, and honestly I don't have any idea what these critics  
are talking about.  Of course, I learned to send iambically on one from  
the beginning.  I've never used a bug, and I didn't even use a straight  
key for very long.


I guess I don't hit the arms hard enough for them to feel mushy.  I  
tried a hex key and it didn't do anything for me; I don't like the grossly  
non-linear feel of the magnet return, which feels way too clicky for  
me.  I tried an original Mercury key -- same feel, didn't like it.  I much  
prefer the long spring of my BY-2, which assures that the tension is  
practically constant across the gap.  And I can't imagine setting the  
tension so lightly that the paddle sticks and hangs up.


I haven't tried a Schurr or a Bengali, and I imagine that those are fine  
paddles.  To me, my BY-2 is a wonderful instrument that is finely  
adjustable over the range of parameters at which I feel comfortable.  I  
use it every day, and I would never want to get rid of it.


I submit that those who say that the BY-series paddles are poorly designed  
or lousy or plain just use a different style of keying that is not suited  
to the BY-series.  I feel sure that most such critics learned to send on  
devices other than iambic paddles, and still use some of the old habits.   
There's nothing wrong with that, but that fact doesn't make the BY-series  
lousy.  Admittedly I'm relatively new to CW, but I can send up to about 25  
wpm effortlessly (faster than I can receive of course).  I know several  
people who use Bencher BY-series paddles a lot faster than that.


In any event, one's personal paddle is obviously a very personal choice.   
Trying a paddle yourself beats listening to advice from a reflector any  
day.


Sorry about helping to flog the dead horse...

73,
- Rob W7GH



On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:35:37 -0700, David A. Belsley [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


The BY paddles are plain and simply not at all like a fine sports car.   
They are more like an old-style Beetle (or possible a Yugo).




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[Elecraft] rf probe

2006-06-16 Thread Jesse Nicky
I guess I am missing something here.  Why do the banana plugs have to be 
connected with rg 174 coax ??

If I have to use coax is there a trick to unraveling the braid ??
I cannot seem to get the tips of the banana plugs to accept solder.

As always, any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

73 de Jesse w6jmm
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RE: [Elecraft] OT: in defense of the BY-series

2006-06-16 Thread Darwin, Keith
 

-Original Message-
From: Rob Locher W7GH

 I've heard criticisms of the Bencher BY-series paddles over and over
 again on this reflector, and honestly I don't have any idea what
 these critics are talking about.

I've owned and loved several Benchers BYs.  I was happy with them
although I did notice the mushiness now and then, but it was not a
problem.  Then I got the Kent key.

I didn't know what I was missing until I tried something different.

I haven't tried a Schurr or a Bengali, 

Neither have I and I won't until I buy one and have it on my desk.  I'm
sure they will be another step up the paddle food chain.  Right now I'm
ignorant of how much better it can be and I'd like to stay that way.


I'm a straight key user these days.  I had a speed-X straight key.  It
was fine.  I bought a Nye Master key and my sending got better.   Hmmm.
I bought a Chinese military key and found I liked it better than the
other two.  I picked up a J-37 and it was ho-hum.  Then, I actually
spent some money and bought a Junker.  Wow, I mean wow, what a
difference.  The Junker makes the speed-x  Chinese military keys feel
sluggish and unresponsive.  The Junker's adjustability is far better
than the other keys I've had and it holds its adjustments very well so
far.  My point?  The speed-x key was a perfectly adequate straight key
that I was doing fine with.  But, now that I have the Junker, I see how
bland that speed-x really was.  Spending time with the speed-x prepared
me to notice and appreciate the subtle yet important differences that
make the Junker worth the $100 I spent on it (that's more than I spent
on my paddles).

I'm very glad I spent time with Bencher BY1  BY2.  It helps me
appreciate the Kent more.

73!

- Keith KD1E -
- K2 5411 -
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RE: [Elecraft] High End Paddles

2006-06-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Ha! Ha! I've often asked for a bug emulator mode for the keyer so I could
key like a bug using the paddles when portable, but pundits always jump up
and tell me that I'd be unhappy with the feel of paddles. They're right, of
course, and that's now why I wanted it. I just wanted to keep the bug
operation, including the ability to send American Morse (which keyers don't
allow because it requires using varying lengths of dashes) when using
paddles portable in the field. 

So, instead of having a bug emulator for a keyer, you've come up with the
same thing to allow using paddles with a bug! 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Tomerlin - K4KO
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:22 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] High End Paddles



 Using a bug is a very a *physical* activity compared to
 keyer paddles.  Ron AC7AC


Not the way I do it.  :)

http://wilsonarc.org/images/s-n-p_vibroplex_bug-001.jpg

http://wilsonarc.org/images/s-n-p_vibroplex_bug-002.jpg

http://wilsonarc.org/images/n4wsm_snp01.jpg


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Re: [Elecraft] rf probe

2006-06-16 Thread michael taylor

On 6/16/06, Jesse  Nicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I guess I am missing something here.  Why do the banana plugs have to be 
connected with rg 174 coax ??


The use of coax is AFAIK* to prevent the probe from picking up stray
RF energy from the powered up radio under test. The banana plugs are
used as the standard connectors to a DMM.


If I have to use coax is there a trick to unraveling the braid ??
I cannot seem to get the tips of the banana plugs to accept solder.


I used my wire cutter to make a parallel cut to the braid (parallel to
the length of the cable) to allow the braid to pulled to one side of
the insulation and then twist the braid into a wire.

This might not be the best solution, but I filled the small hole in
the banana plug with solder, heated the solder, and let the braid (and
repeat for the wire inside the coax insulation) rest in the pool of
solder until it cools enough to hold it in place. Remember to put the
plastic covers inline before soldering.


As always, any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.


I hope that make sense, and is useful to you.

*) AFAIK = As Far As I Know

-Michael Taylor, VE3TIX
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[Elecraft] PS for K1 or K2

2006-06-16 Thread Jim and Carol
Has anyone had any experience with using OHR's  CUP36-12-1 Power supply for the 
K1 or K2?  Is it acceptable to use.
tnx, Jim/k2hn
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Re: [Elecraft] rf probe

2006-06-16 Thread ON4WIX
Hi Jesse,

just read your post re the RF probe.
Your questions concerning the use of banana plugs are already answered so I'll 
have a go at the braid unraveling question.
I'm using a very small copper brush. It looks like a toothbrush but the brushes 
are made of copper wire.
After having cut away the outer sheath, I use the brush to comb the braid 
along the axis of the coax, combing from the sheath towards the end of the 
cable. It may take a few minutes of combing but this results in a set of 
perfectly aligned copper wires, no sign of interleaving or braid. Then it's 
really a piece of cake to separate them from the cable.

Hope this helps.

73 es gud DX

Glenn ON4WIX
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Re: [Elecraft] PS for K1 or K2

2006-06-16 Thread Bob Nielsen


On Jun 16, 2006, at 11:31 AM, Jim and Carol wrote:

Has anyone had any experience with using OHR's  CUP36-12-1 Power  
supply for the K1 or K2?  Is it acceptable to use.

tnx, Jim/k2hn


It should work fine.  I use the similar MFJ-4103 (13.8V/2.89A) with  
my K2.  Neither has sufficient output to charge the KBT2, however.


73 - Bob, N7XY


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RE: [Elecraft] rf probe

2006-06-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
With smaller cables like RG174 (or even RG58) I sometimes do what Glenn,
ON4WIX does, using a brush or fine pointed tool to unweave the braid. 

Most often I use another technique that does *not* require un-weaving the
braid. I cut the jacket back and then use a fine pointed tool to push the
strands of the braid apart to open a space where I want the center conductor
and braid to separate. This can be done without breaking any braid strands,
especially if you push the braid back from the cut end a bit to make it
expand slightly around the center conductor where you want to make the
opening, then push the strands aside with the pointed tool. Then, by bending
the braid and center conductor together, I make a loop in the center
conductor that I can tease out through the opening in the braid so I can get
my pointed tool through the loop and pull all of the center conductor from
that point to the cut end through the hole. Pulling the braid tight again, I
now have the braid and center conductors neatly separated. Finally I strip
off some insulation from the center conductor to expose enough to solder. 

Ron 


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[Elecraft] Do you have spare toroids?

2006-06-16 Thread Val
Hi all,

I am in need of several toroids T44-2 and T44-10 for the input band filters
of the PA  am going to build.
If anybody who have used the services of the Toroid Guy is willing to part
with his unused K2 toroids, please contact me off the list.
Thanks in advance!

73 Val, LZ1VBK2 2745

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RE: [Elecraft] High End Paddles

2006-06-16 Thread Greg Tomerlin - K4KO

Hi Ron,

Not exactly.  What I have is a couple of small pneumatic switches
(mounted in the large wooden box seen in the photo) which I operate by
sipping and puffing on a tube attached between the two.  Each switch
activates one of the two relays you see mounted at the lever end of the
bug.  A light puff or blow through the tube activates one relay (the
bottom actuator) which presses the bug lever to the right (from the
operator's perspective) sending dits.  A sip on the tube activates the
other relay (on top) which presses the bug's lever to the left and
closes the dah contact.

I'm not very good with the bug, but I use it to ragchew with my elmer
WB4CSG one or two times a week.  When not using the bug, I send CW using
a sip-n-puff device and either a radio's built-in keyer or an external
keyer.  The March 2004 edition of QST featured an article describing a
sip-n-puff device similar to the one I use.

http://w4dit.wilsonarc.org/images/fd05/sip-n-puff06.jpg

http://w4dit.wilsonarc.org/images/fd05/sip-n-puff07.jpg

I also have a sip-n-puff creation which emulates a cootie key or
side-swiper, but I am absolutely terrible with it.  Awful.  Unreadable.
I'm lucky if I get two characters sent before I screw up.  My mind just
refuses to work that way.  Sam, my elmer, can send near-perfect code
with it.

72 Greg  K4KO

   Tennessee QSO Party - September 10 
   http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/tqp/rules/tqp06_rules.html 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 1:12 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] High End Paddles


Ha! Ha! I've often asked for a bug emulator mode for the keyer so I
could
key like a bug using the paddles when portable, but pundits always jump
up
and tell me that I'd be unhappy with the feel of paddles. They're right,
of
course, and that's now why I wanted it. I just wanted to keep the bug
operation, including the ability to send American Morse (which keyers
don't
allow because it requires using varying lengths of dashes) when using
paddles portable in the field. 

So, instead of having a bug emulator for a keyer, you've come up with
the
same thing to allow using paddles with a bug! 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
 Using a bug is a very a *physical* activity compared to
 keyer paddles.  Ron AC7AC


Not the way I do it.  :)

http://wilsonarc.org/images/s-n-p_vibroplex_bug-001.jpg

http://wilsonarc.org/images/s-n-p_vibroplex_bug-002.jpg

http://wilsonarc.org/images/n4wsm_snp01.jpg

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[Elecraft] rotator control

2006-06-16 Thread Gregg mulder
Anyone out there that has any experience with LAB-VUE (TM) software interfacing 
to control antenna rotators ? Any suggestions would be appreciated. tnx Gregg 
Mulder
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[Elecraft] K2 'Dayton' Special - Ends in one week (6/25)

2006-06-16 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
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[Elecraft] OT: HT sugestions repeater coverage in Southern OR

2006-06-16 Thread Rod N0RC

Folks,

I'm looking to buy an HT. The one I wanted, Kenwood TH-G71A, is
discontinued, nutz! So I narrowed down the choices to: Kenwood TH-F6A,
Yaesu FT-60R, Yaesu VX-6. Opinions pro/con on these choices? Main
requirement is IRLP/EchoLink in and around SW Oregon (Ashland,
Medford, Grants Pass, over to the coast... I'll be in that area for
and extended period).  Comments on repeater access in that area,
good/bad marginal???

OERP: I be in quarters with no basement and VERY limited space for
shack and/or building (I'll have partially built  K2 with me that I
want to finish), So I'm also looking for great ideas to make use of
limited space.

Please respond OFF LIST to minimize list traffic. If there is
sufficient interest I post a summary.

--
73, Rod N0RC
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[Elecraft] High End Paddles

2006-06-16 Thread Gregg mulder
If there are those of you out there who don't like the feel of plastic 
finger pieces on your favorite key, or have broken one es would like 
replacements, you may wish to consider my homemade wooden ones.   
www.egr.msu.edu/~mulderg  My advise for those looking fer a good key is to try 
as many out as possible before making a decision. Get what feels good 
fer u. One suggestion for trying several keys at once is to have a KEY 
NITE at ur ham club meeting. Get all the Ol' timers out there to bring 
in thier favorites es tell everyone what they like es dislike in a key. 
This may give an oportunity for several folks to try a new key on fer 
size, and possibly feel what you've been missing.   Just a thought.   
73 Gregg
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RE: [Elecraft] High End Paddles

2006-06-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I had an regular on-air friend, a life-long bug user, who, after a long
absence, suddenly reappeared using a keyboard. It turned out a stroke cost
him most of the motor control of his hands, but he could hunt-and-peck with
one finger to send using a keyboard. 

You're both examples of the great range inventive operators who overcame
what many of us might consider insurmountable difficulties to have fun and
share your lives and interests with the rest of us. 

You're a great inspiration!

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

Hi Ron,

Not exactly.  What I have is a couple of small pneumatic switches (mounted
in the large wooden box seen in the photo) which I operate by sipping and
puffing on a tube attached between the two.  Each switch activates one of
the two relays you see mounted at the lever end of the bug.  A light puff or
blow through the tube activates one relay (the bottom actuator) which
presses the bug lever to the right (from the operator's perspective) sending
dits.  A sip on the tube activates the other relay (on top) which presses
the bug's lever to the left and closes the dah contact.

I'm not very good with the bug, but I use it to ragchew with my elmer WB4CSG
one or two times a week.  When not using the bug, I send CW using a
sip-n-puff device and either a radio's built-in keyer or an external keyer.
The March 2004 edition of QST featured an article describing a sip-n-puff
device similar to the one I use.

http://w4dit.wilsonarc.org/images/fd05/sip-n-puff06.jpg

http://w4dit.wilsonarc.org/images/fd05/sip-n-puff07.jpg

I also have a sip-n-puff creation which emulates a cootie key or
side-swiper, but I am absolutely terrible with it.  Awful.  Unreadable. I'm
lucky if I get two characters sent before I screw up.  My mind just refuses
to work that way.  Sam, my elmer, can send near-perfect code with it.

72 Greg  K4KO

   Tennessee QSO Party - September 10 
   http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/tqp/rules/tqp06_rules.html 

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Re: [Elecraft] rf probe

2006-06-16 Thread Matt Osborn
I find that the shield is not particularly flexible and soon breaks
and unravels. With RG-174, just cut the shield back, leaving approx.
1/16 exposed beyond the outer wrapper. Wrap a flexible piece of
stranded hookup wire around the exposed shield and solder it to the
shield.   Cover the exposed shield/solder joint with some shrink
tubing and solder the other end of the hookup wire to wherever its
going.

Hookup wire survives flexing much better than the cable shield.



On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:43:09 -0700, Jesse  Nicky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I guess I am missing something here.  Why do the banana plugs have to be 
connected with rg 174 coax ??

If I have to use coax is there a trick to unraveling the braid ??
I cannot seem to get the tips of the banana plugs to accept solder.

As always, any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Elecraft] High End Paddles

2006-06-16 Thread Joe-aa4nn

Varying lengths of dashes?
I surely don't remember that
when I practiced American Morse
circa 1952.
de Joe, aa4nn
---

I just wanted to keep the bug
operation, including the ability to send American Morse (which keyers 
don't

allow because it requires using varying lengths of dashes) when using
paddles portable in the field.



Ron AC7AC



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[Elecraft] OT: Obsolete Transistor MS1700G

2006-06-16 Thread Howard W. Ashcraft
I am working on a power supply with a linear regulator circuit containing two 
MS1700G power transistors that have shorted.  I don't think they are in any way 
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specification information anywhere to begin the replacement analysis.  The only 
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Re: [Elecraft] High End Paddles

2006-06-16 Thread Fred Jensen
Well, actually there is one case.  Zero is a long dash which I can't 
send with my K1EL keyer or my K2.


www.chss.montclair.edu/~pererat/percode.htm

As a teen in the mid-50's, my friends and I learned American Morse just 
so we could get on 80m at night with each other and confuse others on 
the band.


Calling either the landline code or the Continental code Morse is one 
of the better examples of Life isn't fair.  Sam F. B. Morse's idea was 
to have a series of numbered messages and parts of messages in a 
dictionary, from which you constructed what you wished to send and then 
sent the numbers, and he spent the vast majority of his time compiling 
that dictionary.  Sam was fairly full of himself, and when he didn't get 
enough attention, he would fall ill, often in someone else's bed.


His assistant, Alfred Vail, realized that the clicking and clacking of 
the paper tape inker could be used to decode the code and came up with 
the alphabet. So, if life were fair, it would have been the Vail code. 
Old Sam didn't really invent the telegraph either, but that's another 
story.


Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA CM98lw

Joe-aa4nn wrote:

Varying lengths of dashes?
I surely don't remember that
when I practiced American Morse
circa 1952.
de Joe, aa4nn
---

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Re: [Elecraft] High End Paddles

2006-06-16 Thread Fred Jensen

Fred Jensen wrote:
Well, actually there is one case.  Zero is a long dash which I can't 
send with my K1EL keyer or my K2.


Ooops, there are two cases, I forgot about L.  I can't send that with 
a keyer either.


Fessing up to that error, I remain,

Fred K6DGW
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Obsolete Transistor MS1700G

2006-06-16 Thread Stuart Rohre
Transistor substitution:   If there is at least one good junction in the 
device you want to replace; you measure the diode potential of that junction 
to see if you have a silicon or germanium device:   0.3 volts is typical for 
Germanium, perhaps a bit less.

0.6 volts is a Silicon junction.
Now you know the case you have on the device, (is it one of the typical 
power transistor heat sinkable cases like TO3 (metal) or TO 220 Plastic with 
metal tab?)

You can go to the NTE replacement semiconductor catalog and find similar 
power transistors, and with knowledge of how much voltage and current 
maximum the circuit handles, you pick a device and try it out.   You always 
replace a device with a similar device and the gain should be about the 
same.  You can get an idea of the gain by comparing the base and emitter/ 
collector resistors.

Luckily, except for getting too high a gain in critical feedback circuits, 
this usually works pretty well for such as a power supply application.

I could not find a direct cross to the MS 1700G in the NTE list; but there 
is likely a similar transistor that would do fine; just you have to know if 
you are replacing a silicon or germanium type.  Picking a higher rated 
voltage and current capable transistor is OK.

Stuart
K5KVH 


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RE: [Elecraft] High End Paddles

2006-06-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Yes, those are the two. Actually the long-dash zero is the only one I use on
the Ham bands. Sounds like that's the case for you too, Hi! 

Many Hams have given up and instead use a single dash T for a zero on
their keyers, which works OK when heard in context.

My problem is that I can't easily switch between a bug and a keyer. When I
get on a keyer I'll instinctively start leading it so the logic can do all
the timing for me. I'm just telling it what to do; the logic takes care of
doing it right. And it easy to drop back into Iambic keying, which is
wonderfully easy and smooth. 

Unfortunately, a Bug can handle neither and make intelligible code G.

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

Fred Jensen wrote:
 Well, actually there is one case.  Zero is a long dash which I can't
 send with my K1EL keyer or my K2.

Ooops, there are two cases, I forgot about L.  I can't send that with 
a keyer either.

Fessing up to that error, I remain,

Fred K6DGW

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[Elecraft] Need RG-174 And 1N34A

2006-06-16 Thread Mark Saunders, KJ7BS
I am in need of a few 1N34A diodes and about 3 feet of RG-174 coax.  Does 
anyone on the board have these that I may purchase?

Mark Saunders, KJ7BS
Glendale, AZ
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Re: [Elecraft] rf probe

2006-06-16 Thread Stuart Rohre
Another classic way of using coax braid, is to push the braid back up the 
central conductor, after removing the outer vinyl jacket.   Once you bunch 
the braid, it spreads out and you can use a sharp pointed tool to make a 
hole by spreading the crossed strands.  Using the pointed tool or a hook 
tool, pull the insulated center conductor back thru this hole by folding a 
U shape, and hooking the U to pull it thru the braid hole.  Now you have 
the flat braid as one conductor lead, and it will not unravel past the point 
it is penetrated by the central insulated wire.  Proceed to tin and then 
solder the braid in into the cup of the banana plug; and tin, then solder, 
the center wire into the other banana plug cup.

Stuart
K5KVH 


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Re: [Elecraft] Need RG-174 And 1N34A - I GOT SOME

2006-06-16 Thread Mark Saunders, KJ7BS
I've located the parts I need (thanks Ron).

Thank you to everyone who responded to my query for parts.  This is truely a 
great list.  

I hope I can return the favor some day.

Mark Saunders, KJ7BS
Gelndale, AZ

 Mark Saunders wrote: 

=
I am in need of a few 1N34A diodes and about 3 feet of RG-174 coax.  Does 
anyone on the board have these that I may purchase?

Mark Saunders, KJ7BS
Glendale, AZ
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Re: [Elecraft] High End Paddles

2006-06-16 Thread David A. Belsley
There are actually a number of cases for longer dashes.  With a bug  
or SK, for example, one can truly emphasize the yes by sending R  
with a long dash in the center (di-daahhh-dit).  I miss that kind of  
personalizing of code.  One can also send, rather than the mundane  
dah-di-di-di-dah, something like dah  -  di  -  di  -   di   -
daahhh, with ease while you're trying to figure what you're going to  
say next.  That element of code has been greatly removed with the  
keyer.  But the irrepressible element of the human soul does come  
forth through other subtle elements with a keyer.  I used a bug for  
over 40 years, and now, after long getting used to a keyer, I'd never  
go back -- and I'm sure the chap on the other end feels the same  
way.  The idiosyncratic element to sending with a bug, which almost  
all bug users have to some extent, particularly the bug lilt, can  
make for code that is very difficult to copy.


And, by the way, for those who love their Bencher BY's and took  
umbrage at my disparaging comments in my earlier posts, I will  
express no sorrow at all, but wish them the very best.  I envy them  
the latitude they have for growth -- if they'll only take it.  The  
Bencher BY is kind of like the PC of the paddle world.  It must be  
good because everyone has it, but, in fact, almost everything else is  
better.


best wishes,

dave belsley, w1euy



On Jun 16, 2006, at 6:15 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

Well, actually there is one case.  Zero is a long dash which I  
can't send with my K1EL keyer or my K2.


www.chss.montclair.edu/~pererat/percode.htm

As a teen in the mid-50's, my friends and I learned American Morse  
just so we could get on 80m at night with each other and confuse  
others on the band.


Calling either the landline code or the Continental code Morse is  
one of the better examples of Life isn't fair.  Sam F. B. Morse's  
idea was to have a series of numbered messages and parts of  
messages in a dictionary, from which you constructed what you  
wished to send and then sent the numbers, and he spent the vast  
majority of his time compiling that dictionary.  Sam was fairly  
full of himself, and when he didn't get enough attention, he would  
fall ill, often in someone else's bed.


His assistant, Alfred Vail, realized that the clicking and clacking  
of the paper tape inker could be used to decode the code and came  
up with the alphabet. So, if life were fair, it would have been the  
Vail code. Old Sam didn't really invent the telegraph either, but  
that's another story.


Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA CM98lw

Joe-aa4nn wrote:

Varying lengths of dashes?
I surely don't remember that
when I practiced American Morse
circa 1952.
de Joe, aa4nn
---

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professor of economics

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[Elecraft] rf probe

2006-06-16 Thread Jesse Nicky
thx guys-I really appreciate the advice.  Now I know how to deal with the braid 
for the future too.  I knew I would be able to get a good response from this 
group.

73 Jesse w6jmm
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[Elecraft] Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 26, Issue 18

2006-06-16 Thread N4LCD





I'm sold on Begali keys.  But not sure which one to get.  Has anyone 
used both the Simplex and Magnetic Classic who might comment on the 
comparison?  Also, how about a Begali vs Schurr Profi comparo?  If I 
had more dough, I would order all three, but that is not the case 
here.  I have a Bencher and a homebrew I made in 1963.  I seem to 
make slightly fewer errors on the homebrew than the Bencher.  They 
both work well,  and I am not knocking the Bencher, but I suspect 
the Begalis are superior to both .


I'm relatively new to CW compared to most on this reflector, but I've 
used the BY-2, Hex, Kent Single Paddle, and Schurr Profi 2, and the Schurr won.



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[Elecraft] letters

2006-06-16 Thread bernard panneton
please remove myname from your list i get too much of it  thank s very 
muchbernard panneton ve2le



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[Elecraft] Elecraft QSO party results

2006-06-16 Thread Craig D. Smith

Anyone have an idea when the results of the Elecraft QSO Party held in March
will be posted?  It's been over 2 months since the submission deadline.

   73
... Craig   AC0DS 



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