Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft 70cm transverter, K3 and repeater access tones?

2009-02-17 Thread Julian, G4ILO



wayne burdick wrote:
 
 The XV432 itself *does* cover the full 70-cm range. If you use it with 
 a rig that covers 28-32 MHz, you'll have this capability. But the K3 
 only covers 28-30 MHz.
 

Could not the K3 be transmit-enabled up to 32MHz? Are the bandpass filters
too narrow to permit this? It seems like potentially a very easy solution.

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Re: [Elecraft] Deaf K3 after HI RFI

2009-02-17 Thread Peter
Peter schreef:
 Hi

 I lost my RX this weekend in a contest
 I got several HI RFI warnings and its ends with a low RX.
 Do do hear strong station with low signals.
 There is no difference in strength  if I use ant1 or ant 2. The main RX 
 or the sub rx.

 So I guess there is an short or an interrupt in the RX circuit.
 The power output is OK on all bands,
 If I'm correct this means that the problems is before the bandpass 
 filters since the power get true them.

 Any clue where to start looking at?

 Peter
 PC2A

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Thanks to all.
I found out that D25 is open.
This is a pin diode in the RX/TX switching stage

Tnx all!
Peter
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft 70cm transverter, K3 and repeater access tones?

2009-02-17 Thread John Lemay
There are switched bandpass filters prior to the 10w PA stage, which are
also in circuit before the transverter output. I expect that the 28 to 30MHz
filter would not be suitable right up to 32MHz.

So I guess an extension of transmit capability to 32MHz would not be on the
cards.

Regards

John G4ZTR

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wayne burdick wrote:
 
 The XV432 itself *does* cover the full 70-cm range. If you use it with 
 a rig that covers 28-32 MHz, you'll have this capability. But the K3 
 only covers 28-30 MHz.
 

Could not the K3 be transmit-enabled up to 32MHz? Are the bandpass filters
too narrow to permit this? It seems like potentially a very easy solution.

-
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Re: [Elecraft] Not so Quick Split please

2009-02-17 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
JOHN LAWRENCE j...@hughes.net wrote on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:32 AM

  May I suggest to the Elecraft staff that a Human engineering change be 
 offered for the 60 yo as a reward for being licensed over half a century. 
 This special feature requires a K3 with a frequency
  TX inhibit feature that can be set for the DX operation frequency before 
 the tap dance begins.  Or should it be called Safe Split rather than 
 Quick Split?

John,

A true version of  multiple frequency transmitter offset, or Quick Split, 
can have this feature and usually did.  The problem as I see it is that when 
the manufacturers of ham equipment got to hear about Quick Split, they 
came up with this strange idea that transmitting up one or up five , and 
not at any other up frequency is the way to work DX.

The original version of what we now call Quick Split for use in 
non-amateur equipment was in effect a form of bandspread to fine tune the 
transmitter to some frequency close to but not on the receive frequency, 
hence the name multiple frequency Tx offset. Back in the early 1950's, VFOs 
were difficult to tune to an exact frequency, and two VFOs in one rig was 
not typical. Commercial systems tended to use crystal control.

By using a front panel mounted toggle switch to switch between Normal i.e. 
no split and Tx Offset i.e. Split, and a knob to fine tune the transmit 
frequency over a range that did *not* include the receive frequency but 
close to it, when in the Tx Offset mode, the idea of true Quick Split 
was born for use in the commercial systems market. These days with good and 
easy to tune VFOs available, there are other ways to achieve the same result 
as people on the list have suggested.

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD  (VQ8AK 1946  etc)

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[Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig of all time?

2009-02-17 Thread Darwin, Keith
The K3's performance clearly exceeds its price (check it out, two
possessives in once sentence and only 1 has an apostrophe) and I believe
it is a contender for greatest rig ever or at least very noteworthy
in the historical radio timeline.
 
How long do you think we have to wait before folks begin speaking of the
K3 as one of the most influential rigs?
 
And what rigs would you say are the most historically influential?
Which ones caused a major shift in the history of amateur radio?
 
KWM2A?
TS-520?
FT-101?
Drake C-Line (esp R4-C)?
FT-1000?
Century 22?
 
- Keith N1AS -
- SKCC 344c -
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[Elecraft] PSK On USB

2009-02-17 Thread David Robertson
Steve,
I use USB mode on PSK all the time and never had a problem with IMD. You have 
to make sure your compression (CMP) is set at zero (0) and keep the ALC between 
1 and 5 bars. I have operated this way with my K3 for as long as I have had it 
with no problems.

73
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft 70cm transverter, K3 and repeater access tones?

2009-02-17 Thread w8zn


While I don't have a 432 Elecraft transverter, I have had a lot of experience 
with DEM transverters and K3's over the last year. If you change the crystal in 
the transverter to use 26 MHz for 432 then 30 MHz would be 436 and this works 
well with a couple of caveates. The bandpass filters start to cut off pretty 
sharply around 27 MHz and you will find the rx is down about 6 db, mostly not a 
problem since most transverters have ample gain. On the transmit side, I have 
found  the output is reduced to about -6 dbm and isn't as adjustable as it is 
at 28 MHz, probably ALC action with reduced output from the bandpass filters. I 
have used it and it works well, you just have to play with the levels and as 
you go up in frequency, you have to watch that you don't overdrive the 
transverter. DEM offers a crystal that allows their transverter to cover 435 
with a 28 MHz IF, this equates to a 25 MHZ IF for 432 and the 12m bandpass 
should work well for this but once again, as you go up, the bandpass will be 
dropping until you reach around 27 MHz. 



I have considered re-tuning the 10m filters down to give flatter response at 
26MHz giving away 28.8 and up which I never use anyway but haven't decided 
which way to go. Since the FM band in the US is 440 to 450, it's a waste since 
nothing you do is ever going to give you 20 MHz of bandwidth. I just keep a 
70cm FM transceiver around and just use the K3 for weak signal work around 432. 



Hope this helps. 



Terry - W8ZN 


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tones? 

There are switched bandpass filters prior to the 10w PA stage, which are 
also in circuit before the transverter output. I expect that the 28 to 30MHz 
filter would not be suitable right up to 32MHz. 

So I guess an extension of transmit capability to 32MHz would not be on the 
cards. 

Regards 

John G4ZTR 

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wayne burdick wrote: 
 
 The XV432 itself *does* cover the full 70-cm range. If you use it with 
 a rig that covers 28-32 MHz, you'll have this capability. But the K3 
 only covers 28-30 MHz. 
 

Could not the K3 be transmit-enabled up to 32MHz? Are the bandpass filters 
too narrow to permit this? It seems like potentially a very easy solution. 

- 
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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig of all time?

2009-02-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Kieth,

My vote is for the KWM2 because it brought the concept of transceivers 
to amateur radio.
My second vote is for the Drake C line.  I believe that was the 
turnaround point of amateur thinking about receiver performance.  Prior 
to that time, the major consideration for receiver specs was 
'sensitivity' - it did not matter how much noise was amplified, if it 
was more sensitive, it was better.

73,
Don W3FPR

Darwin, Keith wrote:
 The K3's performance clearly exceeds its price (check it out, two 
 possessives in once sentence and only 1 has an apostrophe) and I 
 believe it is a contender for greatest rig ever or at least very 
 noteworthy in the historical radio timeline.
  
 How long do you think we have to wait before folks begin speaking of 
 the K3 as one of the most influential rigs?
  
 And what rigs would you say are the most historically influential?  
 Which ones caused a major shift in the history of amateur radio?
  
 KWM2A?
 TS-520?
 FT-101?
 Drake C-Line (esp R4-C)?
 FT-1000?
 Century 22?
  
 - Keith N1AS -
 - SKCC 344c -
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Qick Split

2009-02-17 Thread Bill W4ZV



Ken Kopp-3 wrote:
 
 My most-used control in working SPLIT is the A/B button.  A
 quick poke of A/B and a tune of the A VFO to put it on the last 
 worked station in the pileup and another poke of the A/B button
 to put the that frequency in the B VFO.  How could this be simpler?
 

It's simpler to use REV which is momentary so you don't TX on the DX station
when you invariably forget to poke A/B again.  After awhile you can learn to
tune the pileup with your left pinky while also depressing REV with your
left index finger.  Kenwood introduced this concept with TF-SET in the
TS-930S in the early 1980s and Icom copied it with XFC.

I also question the usefulness of Quick Split.  You need to learn to tune
your TX to anticipate where DX is actually listening rather than where he
says he **says** he's listening.  They are often not the same!

http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/Topband/2002-03/msg00011.html

73,  Bill



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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig...?

2009-02-17 Thread Darwin, Keith
Yes, Don, that's the sort of thing I'm think about. 

KWM2 - the age of transceivers
R4C - RX performance
FT-101(?) - Japan emerges as the premier source for ham gear.

K3 - America regains the top position.  Best performance per dollar of
any rig - ever.

- Keith N1AS -
- K3 711 -

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Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:13 AM
To: Darwin, Keith
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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of all time?

Kieth,

My vote is for the KWM2 because it brought the concept of transceivers
to amateur radio.
My second vote is for the Drake C line.  I believe that was the
turnaround point of amateur thinking about receiver performance.  Prior
to that time, the major consideration for receiver specs was
'sensitivity' - it did not matter how much noise was amplified, if it
was more sensitive, it was better.

73,
Don W3FPR
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[Elecraft] Using CONFIG: VFO OFS

2009-02-17 Thread Roy Morris
I did not know the RIT/XIT knob can tune VFO A in large steps when both RIT and 
XIT are turned off.  Go to CONFIG: VFO OFS and set to ON and go to CONFIG: CRS 
to vary the step size.  This does not change the RIT and XIT functions when 
they are turned on.  They operate the same as before.
This is listed in the CONFIG MENU, and I had not noticed it.  I am not quite 
sure how I will use this feature, but it is nice to have.  Roy Morris  W4WFB __
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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig of all time?

2009-02-17 Thread Paul Christensen
I couldn't resist:

Grebe CR-18 (one of the 1st commercially-produced ham-only regen receivers - 
ca. 1926)
National SW-3/Pilot Super Wasp - 1st mass-produced ham receivers (Pilot in 
kit form);
National HRO - Revolutionized Superhet technology  My Vote for THE Receiver 
all of all time;
KWS-1/75A4 - SSB implementation;
KWM-1 - Transceiver concept;
FT-101/TS-520 - Large-scale import revolution with high value in packaging  
features;
Ten Tec Triton series - SS finals;
KWM-480/TR-7 - Digital tuning;
TS-870S - IF DSP; and
Flex SDR-1K - SDR concept to amateur radio.

Nearly a ten-year interval in each category, beginning in the '20s.  I 
wanted to include Hallicrafters (my call-sign after all), but cannot think 
of a really stand-out product, although the SX-28, SX-88, and DD receivers 
deserve a place in history.

Paul, W9AC






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Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig of 
all time?


 Kieth,

 My vote is for the KWM2 because it brought the concept of transceivers
 to amateur radio.
 My second vote is for the Drake C line.  I believe that was the
 turnaround point of amateur thinking about receiver performance.  Prior
 to that time, the major consideration for receiver specs was
 'sensitivity' - it did not matter how much noise was amplified, if it
 was more sensitive, it was better.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 Darwin, Keith wrote:
 The K3's performance clearly exceeds its price (check it out, two
 possessives in once sentence and only 1 has an apostrophe) and I
 believe it is a contender for greatest rig ever or at least very
 noteworthy in the historical radio timeline.

 How long do you think we have to wait before folks begin speaking of
 the K3 as one of the most influential rigs?

 And what rigs would you say are the most historically influential?
 Which ones caused a major shift in the history of amateur radio?

 KWM2A?
 TS-520?
 FT-101?
 Drake C-Line (esp R4-C)?
 FT-1000?
 Century 22?

 - Keith N1AS -
 - SKCC 344c -
 

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[Elecraft] Why no NR in Data modes

2009-02-17 Thread K2MK
I was wondering why the NR feature is unavailable in data modes. During the 
WPX using AFSK A on 80 meters it seems like it would have been beneficial to 
have some noise reduction. (I use MixW).

Mike K2MK 

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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig of all time?

2009-02-17 Thread Lyle Johnson
Hello Paul!

 I couldn't resist:

Me too.

In the early 50's, the Central Electronics products that brought SSB 
into Amateur radio in a practical way.  Maybe not Hallicrafters, but 
still Chicago based :-)

And one mustn't forget the various Swan transceivers, starting with the 
SW-175, SW-140 and SW-120 made in a garage in Benson, Arizona in the 
very early 60's. Then the SW-240 and in 1965 the SW-350 (and its long 
line of variants) brought SSB and the transceiver concept into the range 
of affordability.

For a kid like me, for whom all of this was financially 'way out of 
reach, Heathkit came to the rescue with their SSB monobanders.  I could 
(and did!) make the payments out of my spending allowance...

This, of course, was just as RM-499 began the destruction of Amateur 
radio :-)

73,

Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft 70cm transverter, K3 and repeater access tones?

2009-02-17 Thread dj7mgq
Hi Mike  all,

 There may be some merit in using 50MHz for the IF, it should be fairly easy
 to redesign the XV432 for this by changing components.

Actually what I would love to see is a transverter band IF which has  
no potential conflict with any of the ham bands e.g. 30MHz to 48MHz  
with a 0dBm TX-signal.

I doubt the K3 hardware can do this at present but maybe one day the K3+  ;-)

vy 73 de toby

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Qick Split

2009-02-17 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Now that I found the Diplay button, split is much easier.

However it was nice to hit quick split and have the B VFO automatically = A
VFO and have it jump up 5 or 10 KC.  At that point I always tune for the
last guy worked.  The 5 or 10 KC split is just convenient.

It is by no means a show stopper either way. 


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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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Ken Kopp-3 wrote:
 
 My most-used control in working SPLIT is the A/B button.  A quick poke 
 of A/B and a tune of the A VFO to put it on the last worked station 
 in the pileup and another poke of the A/B button to put the that 
 frequency in the B VFO.  How could this be simpler?
 

It's simpler to use REV which is momentary so you don't TX on the DX station
when you invariably forget to poke A/B again.  After awhile you can learn to
tune the pileup with your left pinky while also depressing REV with your
left index finger.  Kenwood introduced this concept with TF-SET in the
TS-930S in the early 1980s and Icom copied it with XFC.

I also question the usefulness of Quick Split.  You need to learn to tune
your TX to anticipate where DX is actually listening rather than where he
says he **says** he's listening.  They are often not the same!

http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/Topband/2002-03/msg00011.html

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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig...?

2009-02-17 Thread John W2XS

Other great steps in ham history:

Collins 75A1 = The first receiver with the proper way to do double
conversion.  The VFO was the second osc, not the first.  Great stability on
all bands and they all tuned the same way. Readout to 1 kHz. Late 40's.

Collins 75A4 = Mechanical filters and passband tuning. Mid 50's.

Drake 2B = Excellent performance in a small package.  Early 60's.

Ten Tec Triton 4 = All solid state with full QSK.  Late 70's.

Kenwood TS930S = Two xtal filters, one in each IF chain.  Mid 80's.

Elecraft K2 = Raised the bar in receiver performance in a compact QRP rig. 
Late 90's.

73,  John W2XS


Yes, Don, that's the sort of thing I'm think about. 

KWM2 - the age of transceivers
R4C - RX performance
FT-101(?) - Japan emerges as the premier source for ham gear.

K3 - America regains the top position.  Best performance per dollar of
any rig - ever.

- Keith N1AS -
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Re: [Elecraft] Using CONFIG: VFO OFS

2009-02-17 Thread Lance Collister
Roy Morris wrote:
 I did not know the RIT/XIT knob can tune VFO A in large steps when both 
 RIT and XIT are turned off.  Go to CONFIG: VFO OFS and set to ON and go 
 to CONFIG: CRS to vary the step size.  This does not change the RIT and 
 XIT functions when they are turned on.  They operate the same as before.
 This is listed in the CONFIG MENU, and I had not noticed it.  I am not 
 quite sure how I will use this feature, but it is nice to have.  Roy 
 Morris  W4WFB 
 
 
MNI TNX for the very useful tip!  I have only scratched the surface of the 
valuable features hidden inside the menus of the K3, and this is certainly a 
feature I will implement today and use for rapid tuning.  VY 73, Lance

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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig of all time?

2009-02-17 Thread Wes Stewart

 
 And one mustn't forget the various Swan transceivers,
 starting with the 
 SW-175, SW-140 and SW-120 made in a garage in Benson,
 Arizona in the 
 very early 60's. Then the SW-240 and in 1965 the SW-350
 (and its long 
 line of variants) brought SSB and the transceiver concept
 into the range 
 of affordability.

Herb Johnson and Swan were the Eric, Wayne and Elecraft of the day.


  
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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig...?

2009-02-17 Thread Lee Buller
What fun

I agree with a lot of you, but I was a poor kid and never had the Collins or 
Drake experience  All I had is what people would give be to use

How about the HW100/101 - put SSB and Transceivers in the hands of everyone's 
pocket book - cheap version of the KWM2 - and it was a kit!  (also the SB 
series too)

TS-520 - Fantastic for the time (matured to the 830 amd 850)

FT-1000MP
- Never liked the FT series (seem to be the FTdx transceiver of the
month depending on how much power you could get out of sweep tubes) but
the MP was significant rig.

ICOM 765 - Still liked by contesters

TenTec
Triton Series - QSK for the masses.  Front ends could overload, but
good solid CW radio that worked on SSB as well.  Cute!

K2 - nuff said

K3
- Just the beginning of some very fantastic radio technlogy - SDR types
of radios which I think we are seeing the beginning stages of the
technology.  (I would put the Flex radios in here too, but I have never
operated one, but the technology is ... astounding.)

Lee Buller
K0WA

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Re: [Elecraft] Why no NR in Data modes

2009-02-17 Thread Julian, G4ILO



K2MK wrote:
 
 I was wondering why the NR feature is unavailable in data modes. During
 the 
 WPX using AFSK A on 80 meters it seems like it would have been beneficial
 to 
 have some noise reduction. (I use MixW).
 

The DSP demodulators that are used by programs like MixW to decode data
modes aren't bothered by the noise at all. Or at least, the effect of the
noise is less than it would be if NR was used, which will inevitably remove
some useful information along with the noise.

Possibly the NR would be useful if someone was using the K3 audio output to
feed an analog decoder. But nobody would do that, would they?

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Re: [Elecraft] 45A APP Crimper

2009-02-17 Thread Chris Kantarjiev
Sounds like it's time for me to repost this link to my favorite
article about amateur wiring, solder and crimping :-)

http://www.dimebank.com/misc/soldered_connections.html

I (almost) never use the ubiquitous insulated terminals that are intended
to be crimped once, crushing and uglifying the plastic sleeve in the
process. I pull the stupid sleeve, use a heavy duty crimper (I have
appropriate dies for my West Mountain crimper), and put on a layer
or two of heat shrink to stabilize the joint. If I expect the 
connection to be out in the weather, I lightly solder the open end to
avoid moisture entering the crimp. Even if it's airtight, it can't hurt.

73 de chris K6DBG
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Re: [Elecraft] Using CONFIG: VFO OFS

2009-02-17 Thread Jim Miller
that is a wonderful little nugget!

tnx and 73

jim ab3cv
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Re: [Elecraft] Using CONFIG: VFO OFS

2009-02-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Lance,

If you vary the step size with CONFIG: VFO CRS, you will quickly 
discover that it is PER BAND and PER MODE.

73,
Don W3FPR

Lance Collister wrote:
 Roy Morris wrote:
   
 I did not know the RIT/XIT knob can tune VFO A in large steps when both 
 RIT and XIT are turned off.  Go to CONFIG: VFO OFS and set to ON and go 
 to CONFIG: CRS to vary the step size.  This does not change the RIT and 
 XIT functions when they are turned on.  They operate the same as before.
 This is listed in the CONFIG MENU, and I had not noticed it.  I am not 
 quite sure how I will use this feature, but it is nice to have.  Roy 
 Morris  W4WFB 


 
 MNI TNX for the very useful tip!  I have only scratched the surface of the 
 valuable features hidden inside the menus of the K3, and this is certainly a 
 feature I will implement today and use for rapid tuning.  VY 73, Lance
   

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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig...?

2009-02-17 Thread Julian, G4ILO


Lee Buller wrote:
 
 K3 - Just the beginning of some very fantastic radio technlogy - SDR types
 of radios which I think we are seeing the beginning stages of the
 technology.  (I would put the Flex radios in here too, but I have never
 operated one, but the technology is ... astounding.)
 

I have never seen or used a Flex either, but I would say that that is a more
ground breaking design than the K3, which as a hybrid software/hardware
radio is merely an evolution of the concept that was probably pioneered by
Icom with its 765PRO series, with greater attention being paid to ham band
performance at the expense of other aspects that the Icom is better at.

Anyone who claims the K3 is the greatest rig ever is being blinded by those
IP3 numbers. But state of the art SDR designs like the Perseus manage to
achieve as good or better receiver dynamic range without all those expensive
crystal roofing filters, so I don't think the K3 deserves the accolade even
for that reason.

At the same time there are some other aspects of the K3 that are less than
stellar. Transmitter IMD, for example. Or ergonomics. A lot of the K3s that
have been sold were sold because their owners couldn't get on with the front
panel.

I'm not saying that the K3 is not a great radio, especially if you're a CW
operator. But the greatest rig ever? I don't think so.

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Re: [Elecraft] PSK On USB

2009-02-17 Thread Julian, G4ILO



kd1na wrote:
 
 Steve,
 I use USB mode on PSK all the time and never had a problem with IMD. You
 have to make sure your compression (CMP) is set at zero (0) and keep the
 ALC between 1 and 5 bars. I have operated this way with my K3 for as long
 as I have had it with no problems.
 
 
I'm not sure whose post you were replying to. I did make a comment in
another thread about IMD when operating PSK this way. I did so because when
making my power output comparison between DATA A and USB I actually checked
the PSK IMD using my KK7UQ IMD meter and I did observe some degradation when
4 or 5 bars of ALC were used. I saw -25dB which many people would still
consider acceptable but my K3 is capable of -29dB with three bars or less,
exactly the same as if DATA A is used.

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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig ofall time?

2009-02-17 Thread Tom Rousseau
The Hallicrafters FPM-200 was one of the most advanced radios of its time:
very compact, mostly solid state, dual VFOs (accurate and stable), split VFO
operation, electronic tuning of intermediate circuits tracking with VFOs,
dual sided glass epoxy circuit boards, switching power supply, modular
construction.  It was 20 years before the rest of the industry caught up
with the FPM-200 concepts.

The primary downsides of the FPM-200 were:  the technology was not yet up to
the vision (germanium transistors, receiver IMD, low frequency of the
switching supply), and the street price was more than a complete S-Line at
the time (75S-1, 32S-1, 30L-1).  The KWM-1, announced in the same year as
the FPM-200, paled in comparison in terms of vision and innovation.

Tom, K7PJT

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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time?

I couldn't resist:

Grebe CR-18 (one of the 1st commercially-produced ham-only regen receivers -

ca. 1926)
National SW-3/Pilot Super Wasp - 1st mass-produced ham receivers (Pilot in 
kit form);
National HRO - Revolutionized Superhet technology  My Vote for THE Receiver

all of all time;
KWS-1/75A4 - SSB implementation;
KWM-1 - Transceiver concept;
FT-101/TS-520 - Large-scale import revolution with high value in packaging 

features;
Ten Tec Triton series - SS finals;
KWM-480/TR-7 - Digital tuning;
TS-870S - IF DSP; and
Flex SDR-1K - SDR concept to amateur radio.

Nearly a ten-year interval in each category, beginning in the '20s.  I 
wanted to include Hallicrafters (my call-sign after all), but cannot think 
of a really stand-out product, although the SX-28, SX-88, and DD receivers 
deserve a place in history.

Paul, W9AC






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To: Darwin, Keith keith.dar...@goodrich.com
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Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig of 
all time?


 Kieth,

 My vote is for the KWM2 because it brought the concept of transceivers
 to amateur radio.
 My second vote is for the Drake C line.  I believe that was the
 turnaround point of amateur thinking about receiver performance.  Prior
 to that time, the major consideration for receiver specs was
 'sensitivity' - it did not matter how much noise was amplified, if it
 was more sensitive, it was better.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 Darwin, Keith wrote:
 The K3's performance clearly exceeds its price (check it out, two
 possessives in once sentence and only 1 has an apostrophe) and I
 believe it is a contender for greatest rig ever or at least very
 noteworthy in the historical radio timeline.

 How long do you think we have to wait before folks begin speaking of
 the K3 as one of the most influential rigs?

 And what rigs would you say are the most historically influential?
 Which ones caused a major shift in the history of amateur radio?

 KWM2A?
 TS-520?
 FT-101?
 Drake C-Line (esp R4-C)?
 FT-1000?
 Century 22?

 - Keith N1AS -
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Re: [Elecraft] Using CONFIG: VFO OFS

2009-02-17 Thread Dave Hachadorian
I tried using this option during Field Day last year. It 
worked fine except for one problem. In a contest the 
operator frequently switches between run and search  
pounce modes. In search  pounce, you want the rit off, so 
you always call on the other station's frequency. In cq 
mode, you want rit on, so you can tune in off-frequency 
callers. If you switch to run mode, and forget to turn on 
rit, when the first off-frequency caller shows up, you will 
reach for the rit knob, and then immediately tune the main 
vfo way off your run frequency! Your head will be spinning, 
wondering what just happened.

I use the coarse button now for large qsy's. I also have 
quick memories M1, M2, and M3 set for cw, ssb, and rtty 
frequencies/setups on each band. Actually, that's the method 
I use most.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig...?

2009-02-17 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Here is a chronology of the radios I have owned.  Preference for SSB
contesting. 
 
Yaesu FT-101 EE  - Solid radio, I worked lots of people with it.
Inexpensive starter type rig.  
 
Icom IC-701 -First Synthesized rig.  Expensive, I still have no clue how I
managed to scrounge up the money to buy one as a teenager.  Not very
reliable.  (Not sure where in the series I owned this radio) Digital
display!  whoopee!
 
Kenwood TS-830 with VFO Solid rig.
 
Kenwood TS-930- Loved this radio.  No tune up, antenna tuner, looked nice.  
 
Icom IC-751- 2nd radio, never really cared for this radio.
 
Yaesu FT-1000MP-Another one of my favorites.  Two VFO knobs, inband dual
receive.  Solid radio.
 
Icom 756 Pro II - Nice color display.  Too many menus for my likes and no
2nd vfo knob.  Worked fine.
 
Yaesu FT-DX9000 - Huge solid radio that had lots of issues from the start.
Blown finals, poor dsp, claimed to do more than it could.  Expensive.  Good
receiver.  The Microtune units really helped on the low bands in certain
conditions.
 
2 FT-2000's-I like these radios.  Look great.  Maybe some issues with the
roofing filters.  Easy to use.  Good rig.  2 2000's cheaper than a 9000 and
far more flexible even with DMU and microtune units.
 
K3- An amazing radio in small package.  Great receiver.  Will make an
awesome DXpedition radio.  The size could have been a bit bigger for my
likes.  Fairly easy radio to learn.  Lots of flexibility.  Love the built in
cq decoder and rtty decoder.  I really enjoyed building the radio.  I wish
there were more kits available.  A second K3 will be ordered very soon.
Support is 2nd to none.
 
Current mobile rig-  TS-480HX  200 watts in the mobile is nice.  Hot
receiver.   
 
 
 
 
 
 

A slip of the foot you may soon recover, but a slip of the tongue you may
never get over. Ben Franklin 

 

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What fun

I agree with a lot of you, but I was a poor kid and never had the Collins or
Drake experience  All I had is what people would give be to use

How about the HW100/101 - put SSB and Transceivers in the hands of
everyone's pocket book - cheap version of the KWM2 - and it was a kit!
(also the SB series too)

TS-520 - Fantastic for the time (matured to the 830 amd 850)

FT-1000MP - Never liked the FT series (seem to be the FTdx transceiver of
the month depending on how much power you could get out of sweep tubes) but
the MP was significant rig.

ICOM 765 - Still liked by contesters

TenTec Triton Series - QSK for the masses.  Front ends could overload, but
good solid CW radio that worked on SSB as well.  Cute!

K2 - nuff said

K3 - Just the beginning of some very fantastic radio technlogy - SDR types
of radios which I think we are seeing the beginning stages of the
technology.  (I would put the Flex radios in here too, but I have never
operated one, but the technology is ... astounding.)

Lee Buller
K0WA

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[Elecraft] CW-to-DATA

2009-02-17 Thread Ron NA9F

Two questions:

1st.  While using the internal CW-to Data mode I notice a 4 sec idle
transmit period before exiting to receive mode. Is there other way besides,
sending ..-- at the end of your tx, to switch to receive?  I think 4
seconds of idle state is way too much and do not really like to have to send
..-- after each transmission.  

2nd.  What has anyone found out about tuning in a PSK signal that may not be
covered in the manual?
It seems like some stations can be easily tuned fin while others are much
harder.  I have noticed that Digipan copies better then the K3's decode but
it may be my inability to get the tune right.

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Re: [Elecraft] CW-to-DATA

2009-02-17 Thread Lyle Johnson
 Is there other way besides,
 sending ..-- at the end of your tx, to switch to receive?

At this time, your two available options are to send this sequence, or 
wait for the idle time out.

 What has anyone found out about tuning in a PSK signal that may not be
 covered in the manual?

Be sure you have the selectivity tightened up around the signal of 
interest before you do the SPOT to auto-tune it.  Might take two or 
three presses.  Go to FINE TUNE (1 Hz steps) if necessary.

73,

Lyle kK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] CW-to-DATA

2009-02-17 Thread Lyle Johnson
 What has anyone found out about tuning in a PSK signal that may not be
 covered in the manual?
 
 Be sure you have the selectivity tightened up around the signal of 
 interest before you do the SPOT to auto-tune it.  Might take two or 
 three presses.  Go to FINE TUNE (1 Hz steps) if necessary.

To clarify, once I have the PSK signal identified, I narrow the 
selectivity to 50Hz and, if necessary, manually use 1 Hz fine tuning 
after AutoSPOT.  I find AutoSPOT usually does just fine, though it might 
take 2 or 3 presses of the button to get it just right.  WIDTH and QRM 
dictate what needs ot be done, and experience using it will tell you 
what steps to take.

The K3 PSK decoder is not a wideband, waterfall-style decoder. It will 
only work properly if there is one and only one signal in the passband.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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[Elecraft] Quick Split revisited (John Lawrence W1QS)

2009-02-17 Thread JOHN LAWRENCE


Thanks for all the interesting comments to my not so Quick Split post.  At 
the end of the day I'm still left believing that in the Split configuration 
displayed with TX on VFO B and RX on the larger VFO A, that there should be a 
way to always display the transmit frequency and especially while transmitting. 
 In fact, unless I'm missing something as a newbie to the K3, the transmit 
frequency is not displayed while transmitting on CW and may not be displayed in 
the VFO B area while sitting idle.  On my K3 the CW text decoder is in the VFO 
B display area of the LCD unless I touch the VFO B knob.  An option that would 
allow the CW decoder to be shut off so the transmit frequency can be displayed 
would be a fix that might wake me (us?) up before actually transmitting on an 
unintended frequency.   The text decoder is a nice feature but probably isn't 
as important to CW DXer's during the heat of chasing a hot one.  On SSB the 
transmit frequency is always displayed on VFO B thus th
 is issue goes away. 

The other split method using the RIT/XIT buttons does switch to displaying the 
XIT frequency when on the air.  I don't like to use this split method because 
it's too quick for me and I find transmitting on the wrong frequency is a 
greater posibility.  

I'm sure to get it someday but in the meantime my appologies for keeping the 
LID police busier than I should.  Being old fashion, liking to know where I am 
transmitting all the time is comforting.

73, John, W1QS, ex N6JL, ex K1KTH



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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig of all time?

2009-02-17 Thread Fred Jensen
 Darwin, Keith wrote:

 How long do you think we have to wait before folks begin speaking of 
 the K3 as one of the most influential rigs?
  
 And what rigs would you say are the most historically influential?  
 Which ones caused a major shift in the history of amateur radio?
  

I would unequivocally vote for the KWM-2.  In addition to incredible 
stability, frequency setting repeatability, great audio, and all it's 
other features and capabilities, it ushered in the era of transceivers. 
  SSB was fairly hard with separate TX and RX, until the one-box radio 
automatically assured that you transmitted where you were receiving. 
The result was a massive, wholesale change to how ham radio worked on 
the air.

I love my K3, and its performance and features will run circles around a 
KWM-2, and I wouldn't be surprised if it sets the performance bar for a 
long time to come.  But it still is a transceiver.  For causing a major 
shift in the history of amateur radio, Art Collins gets the Nobel in my 
book.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2009 Cal QSO Party  3-4 Oct 2009
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Re: [Elecraft] Quick Split revisited (John Lawrence W1QS)

2009-02-17 Thread JOHN LAWRENCE
SorryI guess my message wasn't clear. Sorry. I agree with your details on the graphical display however the actual TX frequency isn't displayed when in the conventional split mode. That was my point NOT the details on the "clues" via that little arrow pointing to VFO B and the yellow light for delta F. They only tell you that you are in split mode not where you're transmitting. Get it?
On Feb 17, 2009, j...@w7brs.com wrote:

When in split mode there are two indicators that your Tx frequency is different.Three actually.1. is the arrow pointing down to (B) on VFO B.2. is the SPLT indicator just above VFO B.3. is the yellow light over delta-f meaning your Tx and Rx frequency is different.You get #3 if you use RIT/XIT without being SPLITYou get #1 thru #3 if you use SPLIT-jeffOn Tue, 17 Feb 2009, JOHN LAWRENCE wrote: Thanks for all the interesting comments to my "not so Quick Split" post. At the end of the day I'm still left believing that in the Split configuration displayed with TX on VFO B and RX on the larger VFO A, that there should be a way to always display the transmit frequency and especially while transmitting. In fact, unless I'm missing something as a newbie to the K3, the transmit frequency is not displayed while transmitting on CW and may not be displayed in the VFO B area while sitting idle. On my K3 the CW text decoder is in the VFO B display area of the LCD unless I touch the VFO B knob. An option that would allow the CW decoder to be shut off so the transmit frequency can be displayed would be a fix that might wake me (us?) up before actually transmitting on an unintended frequency.  The text decoder is a nice feature but probably isn't as important to CW DXer's during the heat of chasing a hot one. On SSB the transmit frequency is always displayed on VFO B thus th is issue goes away. The other split method using the RIT/XIT buttons does switch to displaying the XIT frequency when on the air. I don't like to use this split method because it's too quick for me and I find transmitting on the wrong frequency is a greater posibility. I'm sure to get it someday but in the meantime my appologies for keeping the LID police busier than I should. Being old fashion, liking to know where I am transmitting all the time is comforting. 73, John, W1QS, ex N6JL, ex K1KTH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: activating sub receiver disables tx ?

2009-02-17 Thread ww2r2
Thanks to information from Charles Allen (who suffered the same issue) and
help from  Dale at elecraft,  the problem has now been identified as a subin
board production defect

The inductor (L3) that supples bias to switch the tx/rx pin diode to the tx
path on the board was not, and had never been fitted, hence drive doesnt get
switched to the tx path

The missing inductor is on its way from CA

The board was supplied with the subrx last november.  Wayne assures me all
subin boards are now 100% tested

Dave

ww2r




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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:09:47 -0500
From: ww...@g4fre.com
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: activating sub receiver disables tx ?
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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I wonder if anyone else has experienced the following? (and what the cure
was?)

In a k3 with atu xverter interface and subrx.

Ant 1 is selected

vfo a is set to cw mode and receives OK. Keying it shows rf output on the k3
power meter and the external power meter

vfo b is set to cw mode on the same band. Doing an a/b swap and it receives
OK, Keying it shows rf output on the k3 power meter and the external power
meter

if I activate split (rx a tx b) using the above settings, keying shows rf
output on the k3 power meter and the external power meter

however if I activate the subreceiver with split (still) enabled keying
shows NO rf output on the k3 power meter and NO rf on the external power
meter. A signal can be heard on a monitor receiver.


Also if I leave the subreceiver activated and turn off the split (no split)
keying still shows NO rf output on the k3 power meter and NO rf on the
external power meter. A signal can be heard on a monitor receiver

using bset ant changes the subrx receive path as expected but doesnt
affect the tx output

I was using the 2.82 software. I rolled back to 2.76 but still have the same
issue

Dave

ww2r


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Qick Split

2009-02-17 Thread Vic K2VCO
Bill W4ZV wrote:

 I also question the usefulness of Quick Split.  You need to learn to tune
 your TX to anticipate where DX is actually listening rather than where he
 says he **says** he's listening.  They are often not the same!

The most important part of quick split is not the offset. I would be happy with 
an offset 
of zero, or an offset of don't change VFO B.

What I want is one button that will (at least) activate SPLIT and SUB. This 
will prevent 
me from carefully finding the station the DX is working with the subreceiver 
and then 
calling him -- without activating SPLIT.

Believe me, this is easy to do and very embarrassing.

If I could have everything I want, it would do three things:

A-B
SUB
SPLIT

I would want this to be implemented as a programmable function key rather than 
an optional 
behavior for SPLIT, because there are times when I want SPLIT to be just SPLIT. 
One way to 
do it would be a menu entry that would let you choose an offset which could be 
zero or 'no 
change' and then assign it to a function key.
-- 
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig...?

2009-02-17 Thread Paul Christensen
 But state of the art SDR designs like the Perseus manage to
 achieve as good or better receiver dynamic range without all those 
 expensive
 crystal roofing filters...

Dynamic range is part of the story.  Look at MDS values for those high DR 
SDR receivers.  High DR, BDR and IP3 figures are of little value in and of 
itself if MDS isn't also reasonable.   100+ dB DR does not guarantee good 
MDS figures.

Every SDR receiver I've seen to date either needs RF pre-amplification (and 
all the warts that come with it) or better (and not yet available) 
performance from a demodulating sound card to achieve MDS numbers 
commensurate with many of the traditional architectures, including the K3.

Paul, W9AC 

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Re: [Elecraft] Quick Split revisited (John Lawrence W1QS)

2009-02-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
John,

I understand your concern.  But some K3 users want to use text decode on 
TX to see how their keying is being interpreted, and if you set text 
decode for both reception and transmit, it does take over the VFO B 
area.  There is just no 3rd place to display variable data on the K3 
display.
'Tis a predicament - some what to monitor their sending during transmit 
and you want the text display to stop.  Perhaps Wayne and Lyle will 
consider making another selection in the TEXT DECODE 'menu' selections 
to decode during receive only, but until that is considered and acted 
upon you may have to alter your operation or simply turn off text decode.

Both the transmit and receive frequencies are displayed *except* when in 
SPLIT *and* the TEXT DECODE is on.  If TEXT DECODE is off, when in 
split, the transmit frequency is clearly displayed in VFO B and the 
pointer for the display TX icon points downward to VFO B.  If split is 
off, the pointer is upward to VFO A, and if XIT is on, you will see the 
frequency in the VFO A area change when you transmit (unless the XIT 
offset is zero).

If you must use text decode when running split and need to explicitly 
see the transmit frequency, may I suggest that you use XIT instead of 
split.  The transmit frequency will show up in VFO A when you transmit.  
If you want to listen to your transmit frequency, just tap RIT and the 
receive frequency will move to your transmit frequency so you can 
listen, then tap RIT again to listen to the DX.  The K3 RIT/XIT range is 
+/- 9.99 kHz which will cover most DX offsets.

73,
Don W3FPR

JOHN LAWRENCE wrote:
 Thanks for all the interesting comments to my not so Quick Split post.  At 
 the end of the day I'm still left believing that in the Split configuration 
 displayed with TX on VFO B and RX on the larger VFO A, that there should be a 
 way to always display the transmit frequency and especially while 
 transmitting.  In fact, unless I'm missing something as a newbie to the K3, 
 the transmit frequency is not displayed while transmitting on CW and may not 
 be displayed in the VFO B area while sitting idle.  On my K3 the CW text 
 decoder is in the VFO B display area of the LCD unless I touch the VFO B 
 knob.  An option that would allow the CW decoder to be shut off so the 
 transmit frequency can be displayed would be a fix that might wake me (us?) 
 up before actually transmitting on an unintended frequency.   The text 
 decoder is a nice feature but probably isn't as important to CW DXer's during 
 the heat of chasing a hot one.  On SSB the transmit frequency is always 
 displayed on VFO B thus 
 th
  is issue goes away. 

 The other split method using the RIT/XIT buttons does switch to displaying 
 the XIT frequency when on the air.  I don't like to use this split method 
 because it's too quick for me and I find transmitting on the wrong frequency 
 is a greater posibility.  

 I'm sure to get it someday but in the meantime my appologies for keeping the 
 LID police busier than I should.  Being old fashion, liking to know where I 
 am transmitting all the time is comforting.

 73, John, W1QS, ex N6JL, ex K1KTH



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Re: [Elecraft] Quick Split revisited (John Lawrence W1QS)

2009-02-17 Thread Joe Planisky
Hi John,

U, you CAN turn the CW decoder off.  Hold the TEXT DEC button and  
then turn the VFO-B knob until it says OFF in the VFO-B area.  Or am I  
not understanding what you're asking for?

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Feb 17, 2009, at 9:30 AM, JOHN LAWRENCE wrote:

 ... An option that would allow the CW decoder to be shut off so the  
 transmit frequency can be displayed would be a fix that might wake  
 me (us?) up before actually transmitting on an unintended  
 frequency.   The text decoder is a nice feature but probably isn't  
 as important to CW DXer's during the heat of chasing a hot one.  On  
 SSB the transmit frequency is always displayed on VFO B thus th
 is issue goes away.

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Re: [Elecraft] Quick Split revisited (John Lawrence W1QS)

2009-02-17 Thread Jeff Wandling W7BRS
Ah, you can quell the text decoded display to revert to the VFO B (which 
is default, I think).  Text decode is not default.

As Don pointed out there's two data items and one peice of UI real estate 
to show them.  Tough decision.

When I run split and using the decode to text, the VFO B will revert to 
the Tx frequency when the decode is idle.  As soon as more signal (or 
noise) kicks in then the decode text overtakes the VFO B as you found.

There's not enough visual real estate to show the two pieces of data in 
the same rect simultaneously.  The text-decode is a killer app for the K3, 
too bad it doesn't have it's own dedicated real estate in the UI.

When the decode is running furiously and I want to double check the Tx 
frequency, I just tap A/B, read it off quickly, and tap A/B again.

Or I can just roll VFO B a smidge to make it render..
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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig...?

2009-02-17 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Julian, G4ILO wrote on  Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04 PM

 Anyone who claims the K3 is the greatest rig ever is being blinded by 
 those
 IP3 numbers. But state of the art SDR designs like the Perseus manage to
 achieve as good or better receiver dynamic range without all those 
 expensive
 crystal roofing filters, so I don't think the K3 deserves the accolade 
 even
 for that reason.

Not to forget what has becoime known as the Holy Grail of receivers, a 
superhet using a good H-Mode mixer, beefy roofing filter and bullet proof 
IF, for an in- passband dynamic range 115 db. SDR should get there soon I 
expect.

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD

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Re: [Elecraft] CW-to-DATA

2009-02-17 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Hi, Ron.

If you're sending with a paddle, you need to send ..--

If you're sending with software (the KY command), you can send KY followed
by an ASCII EOT character (0x04) followed by a semicolon to stop sending.

The K3 Utility terminal page uses this technique.  If you're sending from
one of the K3's CW memories, make the last character in that memory the ..--
character, and when the memory is played, carrier should drop.

73 de Dick, K6KR


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron NA9F
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:54 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] CW-to-DATA


Two questions:

1st.  While using the internal CW-to Data mode I notice a 4 sec idle
transmit period before exiting to receive mode. Is there other way besides,
sending ..-- at the end of your tx, to switch to receive?  I think 4
seconds of idle state is way too much and do not really like to have to send
..-- after each transmission.  

2nd.  What has anyone found out about tuning in a PSK signal that may not be
covered in the manual?
It seems like some stations can be easily tuned fin while others are much
harder.  I have noticed that Digipan copies better then the K3's decode but
it may be my inability to get the tune right.

Ron NA9F
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Re: [Elecraft] 45A APP Crimper

2009-02-17 Thread Rich

The referenced article indicates the reason for not soldering lugs onto a
wire – the heat from soldering can heat harden the wire and cause it to
fail.  Unless the wire is securely fastened to the same object that the
termination is made, there will be flexure of the wire. While doing seismic
testing of cabinets (with very low and sub sonic frequency shaking) you
could see (with the aid of a strobe-light, highs-peed film and/or other
equipment) the movement and flexure of the wire. Even with less than 2
inches of separation! The heat treating hastens the failure. 
All of the above assumes you are using the proper lug/die/crimper and it is
CALIBRATED to the setting you need. Using your big-box auto store
crimper/lug you are on your own. But since we were talking about using the
proper APP crimper I thought I would through in my two-cents about soldering
the connection after proper crimping.
However the main thrust of my first post was “Why use butt connections to
reduce the size (increase the gauge number) when all you need do is remove a
few strands.” The extra connections make extra failure points and it’s going
to a connector that has a lower amp rating anyway.

Rich,
KE0X

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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig...?

2009-02-17 Thread Darwin, Keith
Yes, but this isn't about the best performing rig.  The KWM-2 certainly
had limits and deficiencies (cost being one of them), yet it left a mark
on ham radio that continues to this day.

I'm suggesting that the K3 is in a similar class, not that it is
redefining the form of rigs, but is redefining the cost / performance
expectations.  We now have a US-built choice that gives performance that
is ahead of it's cost.

It probably won't have the overall impact of the KWM2, but I'm thinking
that I got a lot more radio for a much better price than any KWM (or
s-line, c-line, 530s, 830s, etc.) owner did.

Indeed, these are the good old days!

73!

- Keith N1AS -
- K3 711 -

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Geoffrey
Mackenzie-Kennedy

Julian, G4ILO wrote on  Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:04 PM

 Anyone who claims the K3 is the greatest rig ever is being blinded by 
 those
 IP3 numbers. But state of the art SDR designs like the Perseus manage 
 to achieve as good or better receiver dynamic range without all those 
 expensive crystal roofing filters, so I don't think the K3 deserves 
 the accolade even for that reason.

Not to forget what has becoime known as the Holy Grail of receivers, a
superhet using a good H-Mode mixer, beefy roofing filter and bullet
proof IF, for an in- passband dynamic range 115 db. SDR should get
there soon I expect.

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Qick Split

2009-02-17 Thread Andrew Faber
I can't recall which one, but I had a radio that worked exactly this way. 
My suggestion would be not to change existing button usage at all, but do as 
Vic suggests, and allow a programmable button to be set to a quick split, 
that would equalize frequency (or maybe put in a variable offset), turn on 
SUB and go into SPLIT mode.  Then it could be used or ignored at will.
  73, andy, ae6y
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From: Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com
To: Bill W4ZV btipp...@alum.mit.edu
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Qick Split


 Bill W4ZV wrote:

 I also question the usefulness of Quick Split.  You need to learn to tune
 your TX to anticipate where DX is actually listening rather than where he
 says he **says** he's listening.  They are often not the same!

 The most important part of quick split is not the offset. I would be happy 
 with an offset
 of zero, or an offset of don't change VFO B.

 What I want is one button that will (at least) activate SPLIT and SUB. 
 This will prevent
 me from carefully finding the station the DX is working with the 
 subreceiver and then
 calling him -- without activating SPLIT.

 Believe me, this is easy to do and very embarrassing.

 If I could have everything I want, it would do three things:

 A-B
 SUB
 SPLIT

 I would want this to be implemented as a programmable function key rather 
 than an optional
 behavior for SPLIT, because there are times when I want SPLIT to be just 
 SPLIT. One way to
 do it would be a menu entry that would let you choose an offset which 
 could be zero or 'no
 change' and then assign it to a function key.
 -- 
 73,
 Vic, K2VCO
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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig...?

2009-02-17 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
I take your point, and the K3 does appear to have redefined the 
cost/performance expectations. I was thinking along the lines that in this 
part of Europe, those of us who attempt to work SSB DX among the monster BC 
signals on 40m do need a receiver that does not collapse when hit by BC 
signals that reach S9 +80db at times, and the Holy Grail receiver has met 
that expectation and set a standard. I failed to say that its noise figure 
on 40m is roughly 7db.

Good old days?

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD



- Original Message - 
From: Darwin, Keith keith.dar...@goodrich.com
To: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:13 PM
Subject: Re


 Yes, but this isn't about the best performing rig.  The KWM-2 certainly
 had limits and deficiencies (cost being one of them), yet it left a mark
 on ham radio that continues to this day.

 I'm suggesting that the K3 is in a similar class, not that it is
 redefining the form of rigs, but is redefining the cost / performance
 expectations.  We now have a US-built choice that gives performance that
 is ahead of it's cost.

 It probably won't have the overall impact of the KWM2, but I'm thinking
 that I got a lot more radio for a much better price than any KWM (or
 s-line, c-line, 530s, 830s, etc.) owner did.

 Indeed, these are the good old days!

 73!

 - Keith N1AS -
 - K3 711 -

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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig of all time?

2009-02-17 Thread Steve Ellington
U.S built rigs have been first for most inovations.

Subject to correction on all of these:

TenTec
1. Triton - First totally solid state rig.
2. Triton - First QSK cw rig
3. Triton - First to use contact paper to cover it's cabinet. + lots of 
their other products.
4. Triton - First to use red axle grease in a PTO that dries hard in a few 
years and requires rebuilding.
4. Omni 6 - First DSP use. (Of any kind even if it was just audio).
5. Orion - First rig to advertise roofing filters.
6. Omni VII - First rig to provide ethernet port and IP connectivity.
7. Paragon - First with Alpha numeric tags for memory display.
8. Powermite - First QRP solid state kit rig? unsure
9. AC-5 tuner - First tuner with no cabinet and alligator clips to change 
taps. (and last)!
10. KR-40 - First iambic solid state keyer with built in paddles.
11. Omni-A - First rig to offer dual, in-band receive if equipped with their 
external VFO.
12. Omni V - First rig with a remote tuning knob.

First black box, no knob rig:
Kachina

First Sound card - IQ - SDR rig.
Flex-1000

First rig with internal antenna tuner:
TS-930

First HF rig with detachable faceplate:
IC-706

First HF rig with RS-232
ICOM (something)??

First HF rig with internal power supply? TS-930?

First HF rig with an internal cw keyer?

First HF rig with upgradable firmware (externally flashable).





Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com
- Original Message - 
From: Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig of 
all time?


 Darwin, Keith wrote:

 How long do you think we have to wait before folks begin speaking of
 the K3 as one of the most influential rigs?

 And what rigs would you say are the most historically influential?
 Which ones caused a major shift in the history of amateur radio?


 I would unequivocally vote for the KWM-2.  In addition to incredible
 stability, frequency setting repeatability, great audio, and all it's
 other features and capabilities, it ushered in the era of transceivers.
  SSB was fairly hard with separate TX and RX, until the one-box radio
 automatically assured that you transmitted where you were receiving.
 The result was a massive, wholesale change to how ham radio worked on
 the air.

 I love my K3, and its performance and features will run circles around a
 KWM-2, and I wouldn't be surprised if it sets the performance bar for a
 long time to come.  But it still is a transceiver.  For causing a major
 shift in the history of amateur radio, Art Collins gets the Nobel in my
 book.

 73,

 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 2009 Cal QSO Party  3-4 Oct 2009
 - www.cqp.org

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[Elecraft] K3: Configuring N1MM to send CW

2009-02-17 Thread Barry Pfeil
VE3KI's explanation is absolutely correct, but I would add a CAUTION that once 
you have this arrangement set up, be careful to boot your computer and N1MM 
BEFORE turning on your K3 or at least before enabling transmit.  This is 
because some of the start-up processes seem to key the radio when you 
wouldn't want it to be keyed.  I'm using a USB-to-Serial converter and that may 
makes things worse (or better?).
 
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[Elecraft] The great rig debate

2009-02-17 Thread Lee Buller


Well,

One thing to point out here about the K3...the design parameters were to 
develop and SDR type of radio with also proven - standard - technology from 
years past.  I am not sure I said that right...but...the K3 takes the 
technology from our forefathers...melds it with SDR technologyand we have 
what we have.  I would say that the K3 is a convergence of 
technologytired and true...and cutting edge.

Have they done it?  Yes.  Proof is right there on my operating bench.  Is it 
the best it can be?  Dunno.  Will the technology get better - Yes!  Where will 
it end up?  Dunno.

One thing for certain, (and I said this in a previous post) we are still at the 
beginnings of what can be done is SDR.  I think there is more to come.  

I am waiting for the day I can download sunspots and load them into my 
radioset the radio to CONFIG:SUNSPOTS ON.

Lee - K0WA


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[Elecraft] K2 #809/6630

2009-02-17 Thread John
10 year old K2 serial number, upgraded and now serial number 6630 operational.
Made contacts on 40 and 80 cw.
Good performance but I'm still puzzled by a low resistance (~50 ohms) at U6 pin 
8.

John.
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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig...?

2009-02-17 Thread David Gilbert

While I am extremely impressed with the K3 hardware, I think that much 
of the rig's impressive performance represents extensions of the Orion 
series.  It seems to me that the most revolutionary aspect of the K3, at 
least among major manufacturers, is the paradigm shift in the 
relationship between the designer and the customer.

73,
Dave   AB7E


Darwin, Keith wrote:
 Yes, but this isn't about the best performing rig.  The KWM-2 certainly
 had limits and deficiencies (cost being one of them), yet it left a mark
 on ham radio that continues to this day.

 I'm suggesting that the K3 is in a similar class, not that it is
 redefining the form of rigs, but is redefining the cost / performance
 expectations.  We now have a US-built choice that gives performance that
 is ahead of it's cost.

 It probably won't have the overall impact of the KWM2, but I'm thinking
 that I got a lot more radio for a much better price than any KWM (or
 s-line, c-line, 530s, 830s, etc.) owner did.

 Indeed, these are the good old days!

 73!

 - Keith N1AS -
 - K3 711 -
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[Elecraft] K2 #809/6630

2009-02-17 Thread John
Just built this rig that has been around in kit form for 10 years.

73.

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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig...?

2009-02-17 Thread Grant Youngman

On Feb 17, 2009, at 1:00 PM, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote:


 Not to forget what has becoime known as the Holy Grail of receivers, a
 superhet using a good H-Mode mixer, beefy roofing filter and bullet  
 proof
 IF, for an in- passband dynamic range 115 db. SDR should get there  
 soon I
 expect.

 73,
 Geoff
 GM4ESD


Talk to Tom Rauch (W8JI) about his heavily modified R-4C. 2Khz  
IMDR of 118dB, 2Khz BDR of 127dB.  Too bad you can't buy one of these  
off the shelf :-)

Maybe SDR is still just playing catch up (?)  ... :-)


Grant/NQ5T
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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig...?

2009-02-17 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Tom is using the K3 now..   :-)
See:
http://www.eham.net/reviews/review/73081

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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Grant Youngman wrote:
 On Feb 17, 2009, at 1:00 PM, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote:

   
 Not to forget what has becoime known as the Holy Grail of receivers, a
 superhet using a good H-Mode mixer, beefy roofing filter and bullet  
 proof
 IF, for an in- passband dynamic range 115 db. SDR should get there  
 soon I
 expect.

 73,
 Geoff
 GM4ESD
 


 Talk to Tom Rauch (W8JI) about his heavily modified R-4C. 2Khz  
 IMDR of 118dB, 2Khz BDR of 127dB.  Too bad you can't buy one of these  
 off the shelf :-)

 Maybe SDR is still just playing catch up (?)  ... :-)

   
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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig of all time?

2009-02-17 Thread Vic K2VCO
Wes Stewart wrote:

 Herb Johnson and Swan were the Eric, Wayne and Elecraft of the day.

I hardly think W  E would sell a product designed to appeal to CBers operating 
with 
illegal power and VFOs! Consider the Swan 1011:

http://www.cbworldinformer.com/200202/ccc_history.htm

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73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig...?

2009-02-17 Thread Grant Youngman

On Feb 17, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

 Tom is using the K3 now..   :-)
 See:
 http://www.eham.net/reviews/review/73081


Yes, I know.  His review was one of the reasons I bought my K3.

But it does sort of show that all the dB's of this and that aren't  
necessarily the only determinant of goodness :-)

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[Elecraft] The great rig debate

2009-02-17 Thread ni0c
Lee, K0WA wrote:

I am waiting for the day I can download sunspots and load them into my 
radioset the radio to CONFIG:SUNSPOTS ON.


I don't think we get to do that until we join VK9NS at his new QTH.

73,
Chuck  NI0C
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[Elecraft] FOR SALE: LP-PAN and EMU-0202 Combo with all cables, ready to go

2009-02-17 Thread Roger Marrotte
I'm selling my LP-PAN and EMU-0202 combo.  They look and work like new.  I
don't use them so I'm selling them.  I want to sell them as a complete unit.
All cables are included.  Just plug everything in and go.  Asking $225.00
including shipping to the US.  Will ship to Canada for an extra $5.00.
 
Roger, W1EM
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[Elecraft] FS: K2 QRP station with extras

2009-02-17 Thread Nick Thomas
K2 SN6163, including: o  K160RX 160M Optiono  KSB2 SSB option N0SS t/r 
internal amplifier relay kit12v Power cable and original manual I am the 
original builder. I put this rig together in the summer of 2007.I used it until 
I took delivery of a K3 in the winter of 2008. I have used the rig sparingly 
since then. It works perfectly and is very well aligned and tuned. $750 
includes shipping and insurance in the lower 48 states. Pictures are available. 
Please reply to me off the reflector. You may contact me at my callsign at the 
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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig of all time?

2009-02-17 Thread Vic K2VCO
Steve Ellington wrote:
 U.S built rigs have been first for most inovations.

I don't know if anyone's mentioned one of the first all solid-state ham 
receivers, the 
Davco DR-30, made in Florida.

http://www.w8zr.net/vintage/receivers/davco.htm
-- 
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
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Re: [Elecraft] Why no NR in Data modes

2009-02-17 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
K2MK wrote:
 I was wondering why the NR feature is unavailable in data modes.
 During the WPX using AFSK A on 80 meters it seems like it would have
 been beneficial to have some noise reduction. (I use MixW).

Because it would remove the signal.  One of the main functions is, I 
believe, to act as an adaptive notch filter, which would mean that, most 
likely, it would notch out the spacing tone on RTTY.  Also the most 
optimal digital modes tend to be almost indistinguishable from random 
noise to anything other than the matched demodulator.

Basically, NR reduces subjective noise for speech, but will play havoc 
with digital modulation.


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[Elecraft] (no subject)

2009-02-17 Thread Jim
I  took an Elecraft PR6 in trade with some other stuff. It was still in the
unopened Priority Mail box from Elecraft to the Ham who traded it to me. He
had not opened it. Naturally I opened it to be sure it was in the box and
it's there with the instructions. So it is as new. Anyone who wants it I
will ship it to them priority mail for $120. Conus only.

 

Please reply off the list.

 

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[Elecraft] K3 Filters and dual bandpass tuning

2009-02-17 Thread andrew vavra
Question for the experienced K3 owners...

I'm planning a purchase in the very near future and want a clarification on the 
roofing filters and use of passband tuning with the K3.

I think I understand from reading the forum that the K3 automatically selects 
the filter to match the width of the passband.  In other words if I narrow the 
passband using the dual PBT to 500 Hz, the K3 will select the 500 Hz roofing 
filter.

Am I interpreting this correctly?

If this is true, what if I only have 1 roofing filter in the rig... say the 2.7 
kHz?  Can the passband be narrowed even further using PBT like I can do with my 
756 Pro?

Thanks in advance.

Andy, KD3RF

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[Elecraft] K3 Mods

2009-02-17 Thread The Smiths

Gary,
If you Just can't do those mods by yourself for some reason, and you need some 
help.  I will be happy to do your mods for free.  You will be responsible to 
pay the shipping to and from the states for the required boards, but the mods 
(other then normal parts prices) will be free of charge.  Just let me know off 
reflector. And no, I don't work for Elecraft...


Michael
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters and dual bandpass tuning

2009-02-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Andrew,

The answer is yes to all of that, except for minor points related to 
your interpretation.
For clarification, there are two considerations - the first is the 
filter width.  That is not necessarily the roofing filter width, the DSP 
filter width can be much more narrow than the roofing filter.  Think of 
the roofing filter as something protecting the K3 demodulation from 
extremely strong signals, much as a house roof protects those things 
under it.  Yes, if you have multiple roofing filters installed, the K3 
will automatically switch them in as you change the DSP filter width.

The K3 DSP determines the ultimate filtering, rather than the roofing 
filter.

Once the DSP filter width is set,  that filter passband can be moved 
about to change the position of the passband within the demodulated 
audio range by changing SHIFT - this SHIFT is equivalent to Passband 
Tuning - it repositions the passband without changing the tone of the 
received signal..

73,
Don W3FPR

andrew vavra wrote:
 Question for the experienced K3 owners...

 I'm planning a purchase in the very near future and want a 
 clarification on the roofing filters and use of passband tuning with 
 the K3.

 I think I understand from reading the forum that the K3 automatically 
 selects the filter to match the width of the passband.  In other words 
 if I narrow the passband using the dual PBT to 500 Hz, the K3 will 
 select the 500 Hz roofing filter.

 Am I interpreting this correctly?

 If this is true, what if I only have 1 roofing filter in the rig... 
 say the 2.7 kHz?  Can the passband be narrowed even further using PBT 
 like I can do with my 756 Pro?

 Thanks in advance.

 Andy, KD3RF


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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 appears dead after KXB3080 PCB installed... ...Help please!

2009-02-17 Thread ShawnMorrow

I want to close out this thread now that my KX1 is back on the air on 80, 40,
30, and 20 meters.

I was doing another close visual before following up on Don's advice to
remove Q9.  During that process I must of dislodged something that was
causing a short in the vicinity of T2.  There were a couple of through holes
I had difficulty clearing to mount T2 and I think perhaps there was solder
ball or something that was hidden by T2.  Once dislodged everything came
back to life.  Needless to say I was quite relieved!!

So, this re-enforces Don's advice to check the soldering closely and perhaps
to pay attention to any solder debris that might be left laying around.

Don - thanks for the tips and assistance to help me through this.

73, W4SDM

Shawn Morrow
Fairfax, VA

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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig of all time?

2009-02-17 Thread Wes Stewart



--- On Tue, 2/17/09, Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com wrote:

 Wes Stewart wrote:
 
  Herb Johnson and Swan were the Eric, Wayne and
 Elecraft of the day.
 
 I hardly think W  E would sell a product designed to
 appeal to CBers operating with illegal power and VFOs!
 Consider the Swan 1011:
 

OK, I considered it:  The Swan was a ten-meter transceiver that received on 
11-meters. My K3 receives the BC band to 30 Mhz, including the CB band. So what?

I once owned a KWM-1 that was removed from a B-47. (Likely one that had been 
overflying the Soviet Union)  It tuned and transmitted anywhere between 14 and 
30 MHz given the correct crystal plugged into a removable box on the front 
panel.

I believe that rig has been mentioned before in this thread as a milestone 
radio.  Should we did up Art Collins and chastise him?




  
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 appears dead after KXB3080 PCB installed... ...Help please!

2009-02-17 Thread Bill Johnson
Been there done that as a test builder.  This is one complex update that
needs extreme care, even for those of us who might proclaim we know what we
are doing.


73,

Bill
K9YEQ
K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of ShawnMorrow
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:41 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 appears dead after KXB3080 PCB installed...
...Help please!


I want to close out this thread now that my KX1 is back on the air on 80,
40,
30, and 20 meters.

I was doing another close visual before following up on Don's advice to
remove Q9.  During that process I must of dislodged something that was
causing a short in the vicinity of T2.  There were a couple of through holes
I had difficulty clearing to mount T2 and I think perhaps there was solder
ball or something that was hidden by T2.  Once dislodged everything came
back to life.  Needless to say I was quite relieved!!

So, this re-enforces Don's advice to check the soldering closely and perhaps
to pay attention to any solder debris that might be left laying around.

Don - thanks for the tips and assistance to help me through this.

73, W4SDM

Shawn Morrow
Fairfax, VA

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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig of all time? [END of Thread]

2009-02-17 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Time to end this thread before it gets flogged to death. ;-)

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig of all time?

2009-02-17 Thread Vic K2VCO
Wes Stewart wrote:

 OK, I considered it:  The Swan was a ten-meter transceiver that received on 
 11-meters.
 My K3 receives the BC band to 30 Mhz, including the CB band. So what? I once 
 owned a
 KWM-1 that was removed from a B-47. (Likely one that had been overflying the 
 Soviet
 Union) It tuned and transmitted anywhere between 14 and 30 MHz given the 
 correct
 crystal plugged into a removable box on the front panel. I believe that rig 
 has been
 mentioned before in this thread as a milestone radio.  Should we did up Art 
 Collins and
 chastise him?

I didn't say it was possible to use it illegally. I said It was designed to 
appeal to 
CBers operating with illegal power and VFOs. There's a difference.

I bet Eric is coming along to squash this thread soon!
-- 
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig of all time?

2009-02-17 Thread Mark Bayern
 I bet Eric is coming along to squash this thread soon!

You win!



On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com wrote:
 Wes Stewart wrote:

 OK, I considered it:  The Swan was a ten-meter transceiver that received on 
 11-meters.
 My K3 receives the BC band to 30 Mhz, including the CB band. So what? I once 
 owned a
 KWM-1 that was removed from a B-47. (Likely one that had been overflying the 
 Soviet
 Union) It tuned and transmitted anywhere between 14 and 30 MHz given the 
 correct
 crystal plugged into a removable box on the front panel. I believe that rig 
 has been
 mentioned before in this thread as a milestone radio.  Should we did up Art 
 Collins and
 chastise him?

 I didn't say it was possible to use it illegally. I said It was designed 
 to appeal to
 CBers operating with illegal power and VFOs. There's a difference.

 I bet Eric is coming along to squash this thread soon!
 --
 73,
 Vic, K2VCO
 Fresno CA
 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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[Elecraft] KX1 SOS

2009-02-17 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Even though this happened in my back yard, so to speak (the individual
involved lives about 50 miles from me), I was made aware of it by Wayne. 

 

I don't recall its appearing here so here's a promote for how a KX1  came
through in a real emergency:

 

http://www.gtconnect.com/articles/2009/02/15/news/top_story/1aaa01_sos.txt

 

 

Ron AC7AC 

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[Elecraft] OT: Montana Station?

2009-02-17 Thread Lee Buller


I need one more contact for Triple Play in Montana on SSB.  Anyone in MT that 
would like to work me on 75 meters.  I do have a microphone somewhere.

Lee Buller - K0WA
All done with my little ol' K3  and some with my AL82



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[Elecraft] OT: Montana Station with LOTW

2009-02-17 Thread Lee Buller


Ken - K0PP - got me my last state for Triple Play, but Ken is not active yet on 
LOTW.  I need a Montana station that is active in Triple Play.

Contact me through my email address.  Last one for TP

Thanks Kengreat to talk with you on 75 meters

Lee - K0WA


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[Elecraft] For Sale: KPA100, W1

2009-02-17 Thread John W2XS

For Sale:

KPA100 – I bought this off the list while waiting for the K3 but I have now
decided to keep my K2 QRP.  Still in the box as received.  $300 shipped.

W1 Wattmeter in the W8FGU tilting plastic case.  $100 shipped.  Will include
some extra BNC cables.

73,

John W2XS

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Montana Station with LOTW

2009-02-17 Thread Dave Hachadorian
Here is a great meeting place for all your Triple Play 
needs:

http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/

Click on LOTW

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ



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Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:48 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Montana Station with LOTW




Ken - K0PP - got me my last state for Triple Play, but Ken 
is not active yet on LOTW. I need a Montana station that is 
active in Triple Play.

Contact me through my email address. Last one for TP

Thanks Kengreat to talk with you on 75 meters

Lee - K0WA


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supply.  If you don't have any Common Sense - get some 
Common Sense and use it.  If you can't find any Common 
Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. 
Is Common Sense divine?





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[Elecraft] 2nd receiver only delivers hiss

2009-02-17 Thread Don Greenbaum
Well I decided to chase the K5D tonight (always better to start late).

Lo and behold, my sub receiver does not copy anything.  I've checked the menu 
and the KXV3 is set to NOR, speakers set to 1 or 2 makes no difference on 
internal speaker, RF set to max, SUB is turned on.

It transmits fine on B and in fact I've now worked K5D on 40 80 and 160.  But 
it would be nice to hear the 2nd RX to find the last stn working them.

What am I doing wrong?  AFX on or off makes no difference either by the way.

Don


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EX-WB2DND, A61AD (GUEST OP, QSL MGR), A52DG, /KH9, /BV, /VS6, /4X, /9V 
Pilot: VU7RG, 3Y0X, VK9ML, D68C, VK0IR, K8XP/KH9, 9M0C, ZK1XXP, ZL9CI 
Webmaster:  BS7H, 3Y0X, K5K, A52A, VK0IR, 9M0C, ZK1XXP, WB2DND/KH9, BQ9P, ZL9CI 
QSL Manager:  A61AD, A61AO, A61X, A61AQ
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[Elecraft] Serious Question

2009-02-17 Thread Paul W. Van Dyke
Looking at the K3

I do Data (PSK31, RTTY) and SSB on DXpeditions

I know the DVR and USB as it will used with HRD

What options would you suggest to put in the rig to start with knowing other
options can be added later.

And what filters are suggested for those modes.

 

Looking at 2010 DXpeditions

Paul  FS/KB9AVO, PJ7/KB9AVO and more

 

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Re: [Elecraft] 2nd receiver only delivers hiss

2009-02-17 Thread Dick Dievendorff
I had my 2nd receiver antenna routed to AUX.  When I changed it to MAIN the
pileup got a lot louder.

Dick, K6KR


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Greenbaum
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:09 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] 2nd receiver only delivers hiss

Well I decided to chase the K5D tonight (always better to start late).

Lo and behold, my sub receiver does not copy anything.  I've checked the
menu and the KXV3 is set to NOR, speakers set to 1 or 2 makes no difference
on internal speaker, RF set to max, SUB is turned on.

It transmits fine on B and in fact I've now worked K5D on 40 80 and 160.
But it would be nice to hear the 2nd RX to find the last stn working them.

What am I doing wrong?  AFX on or off makes no difference either by the way.

Don


- 
N1DG--Licensed since 1962 
EX-WB2DND, A61AD (GUEST OP, QSL MGR), A52DG, /KH9, /BV, /VS6, /4X, /9V 
Pilot: VU7RG, 3Y0X, VK9ML, D68C, VK0IR, K8XP/KH9, 9M0C, ZK1XXP, ZL9CI 
Webmaster:  BS7H, 3Y0X, K5K, A52A, VK0IR, 9M0C, ZK1XXP, WB2DND/KH9, BQ9P,
ZL9CI 
QSL Manager:  A61AD, A61AO, A61X, A61AQ
2006 inductee into the CQ Magazine DX Hall of Fame 
Member:  FOC, ARRL, DDXA, YCCC

SKYPE:  aurumtel 

 
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Re: [Elecraft] 2nd receiver only delivers hiss

2009-02-17 Thread Don Greenbaum
Oh thank you thank you thank you.

That was all too easy!!

Yes, the BSET was on AUX.

And I noticed it needs to be set for each bandwow, every day is a new 
learning experience.

What a radio, what a resource this reflector is.

Maybe I need to read the manual a 3rd time.

:-)

73
Don
N1DG




At 12:20 AM 2/18/2009, WILLIS COOKE wrote:
Is your receiver connected to an antenna?  I am not sure exactly how the sub 
receiver connects to antenna 1.  I have been told that it is an internal 
connection, but I am not sure that it does not feed from the coax connected to 
the ATU.  If you only have one antenna connected, check the Bset and be sure 
that antenna 1 is selected if you are not using a second antenna.

Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ


--- On Tue, 2/17/09, Don Greenbaum d...@aurumtel.com wrote:

 From: Don Greenbaum d...@aurumtel.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] 2nd receiver only delivers hiss
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 9:09 PM
 Well I decided to chase the K5D tonight (always better to
 start late).
 
 Lo and behold, my sub receiver does not copy anything. 
 I've checked the menu and the KXV3 is set to NOR,
 speakers set to 1 or 2 makes no difference on internal
 speaker, RF set to max, SUB is turned on.
 
 It transmits fine on B and in fact I've now worked K5D
 on 40 80 and 160.  But it would be nice to hear the 2nd RX
 to find the last stn working them.
 
 What am I doing wrong?  AFX on or off makes no difference
 either by the way.
 
 Don
 
 
 - 
 N1DG--Licensed since 1962 
 EX-WB2DND, A61AD (GUEST OP, QSL MGR), A52DG, /KH9, /BV,
 /VS6, /4X, /9V 
 Pilot: VU7RG, 3Y0X, VK9ML, D68C, VK0IR, K8XP/KH9, 9M0C,
 ZK1XXP, ZL9CI 
 Webmaster:  BS7H, 3Y0X, K5K, A52A, VK0IR, 9M0C, ZK1XXP,
 WB2DND/KH9, BQ9P, ZL9CI 
 QSL Manager:  A61AD, A61AO, A61X, A61AQ
 2006 inductee into the CQ Magazine DX Hall of Fame 
 Member:  FOC, ARRL, DDXA, YCCC
 
 SKYPE:  aurumtel 
 
  
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Re: [Elecraft] 2nd receiver only delivers hiss

2009-02-17 Thread Dave Reed
Assuming you do not have a separate Rx antenna, you need to select the main
antenna for the sub receiver.  With the sub rcvr on, press and hold RX ANT
until MAIN appears.

73,
Dave, NX7F


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Greenbaum
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:09 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] 2nd receiver only delivers hiss

Well I decided to chase the K5D tonight (always better to start late).

Lo and behold, my sub receiver does not copy anything.  I've checked the
menu and the KXV3 is set to NOR, speakers set to 1 or 2 makes no difference
on internal speaker, RF set to max, SUB is turned on.

It transmits fine on B and in fact I've now worked K5D on 40 80 and 160.
But it would be nice to hear the 2nd RX to find the last stn working them.

What am I doing wrong?  AFX on or off makes no difference either by the way.

Don


- 
N1DG--Licensed since 1962 
EX-WB2DND, A61AD (GUEST OP, QSL MGR), A52DG, /KH9, /BV, /VS6, /4X, /9V 
Pilot: VU7RG, 3Y0X, VK9ML, D68C, VK0IR, K8XP/KH9, 9M0C, ZK1XXP, ZL9CI 
Webmaster:  BS7H, 3Y0X, K5K, A52A, VK0IR, 9M0C, ZK1XXP, WB2DND/KH9, BQ9P,
ZL9CI 
QSL Manager:  A61AD, A61AO, A61X, A61AQ
2006 inductee into the CQ Magazine DX Hall of Fame 
Member:  FOC, ARRL, DDXA, YCCC

SKYPE:  aurumtel 

 
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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig...?

2009-02-17 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Darwin, Keith wrote:
 Yes, but this isn't about the best performing rig.  The KWM-2 certainly
 had limits and deficiencies (cost being one of them), yet it left a mark
 on ham radio that continues to this day.
 
This might be true if you think the world is the USA. Speaking
for the rest of the world I would say the KWM-2 left no mark at all,
it was far too expensive and be course of that not very common.

/ Jim SM2EKM


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Re: [Elecraft] Serious Question

2009-02-17 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I would look at the 2.8k although people say the 2.7k is fine and the 1.8
for ssb.  I would also go for either the 400 or 500hz for cw/rtty
 
The 2nd receiver is very handy I would run with at 2.8 and a 500 or 400 in
the sub receiver but you can fill it up.
 
Xvter option for receive antennas, Antenna tuner.
 
How much do you have to spend hi!  

A slip of the foot you may soon recover, but a slip of the tongue you may
never get over. Ben Franklin 

 

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul W. Van Dyke
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:35 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Serious Question



Looking at the K3

I do Data (PSK31, RTTY) and SSB on DXpeditions

I know the DVR and USB as it will used with HRD

What options would you suggest to put in the rig to start with knowing other
options can be added later.

And what filters are suggested for those modes.

 

Looking at 2010 DXpeditions

Paul  FS/KB9AVO, PJ7/KB9AVO and more

 

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Re: [Elecraft] How long until K3 is declared the greatest rig of all time?

2009-02-17 Thread Stephen Brandt
Shortly after I graduated from Cal Poly Pomona (in Pomona, California) I
purchased a Kenwood TS520 from Henry Radio in Los Angeles. It was one of the
few brand new rigs that I have purchased. I kept for almost 20 years until I
traded it for an Icom IC 735. Both were excellent radios. I still have the
735. I now use a Yaesu FT 1000MP. I will probably keep it until I can afford
a K3. I also had the privilage of using a KWM2 and a Central Electronics
100V. Both were great radios.

73,

Steve Brandt N7VS Portland, Oregon

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[Elecraft] Operating split without using SPLIT

2009-02-17 Thread Richard Ferch
After a bit of experimenting, I am finding I prefer a way of operating split
that doesn't require the SPLIT button at all. This is to transmit on VFO A
and listen to the DX station on the subreceiver.

You find the DX using VFO A, hit AB, hit SUB and look for the pileup with
VFO A. You never have to press SPLIT or turn the VFO B knob, and you never
have to stop to think which frequency you will be transmitting on - it's
always the frequency in the VFO A display regardless of whether you are
operating split or not.

Assuming you are quick enough to realize that the DX is operating split in
the first place, about the only other mistake you can make is to forget to
hit SUB, which becomes obvious very quickly.

If you are using a panadapter like LP-PAN with PowerSDR, you can click on
the pileup in the panadapter display to tune VFO A directly to the pileup.
The focus of the panadapter is always on the pileup, not on the DX station
as it would be when using SPLIT.

You can even use text decode or the auxiliary display in the VFO B window -
all it costs you is the display of the DX station's frequency; you never
lose sight of your transmit frequency.

This all seems too easy - what am I missing?

73,
Rich VE3KI
K3 #1595

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[Elecraft] 5B/G4MKP

2009-02-17 Thread terry burbidge
K3 #768 working well except for sub-receiver which has suddenly become deaf.
Did I bugger about with a menu setting? Not essential but I would like to
get it back.

Managed to enter WPX RTTY and plenty of cw pile-ups daily. Worked Chris
G3SJJ for first identified K3 QSO. NA around 2200Z is strong. Will QRV ~
7.101MHz.

Cheers,

Terry
G4MKP


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