Re: [Elecraft] OT - Power and my earlier post

2018-10-17 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Yes and when running PSK-31 if you don't get IMD reports of between -21dB 
and/or more like -29dB then most likely something at your station needs 
improvement. Usually overdrive either in the audio system or RF path is a 
contributing factor.  ALC action is often one culprit.  Some radios leave the 
SP or EQ circuits in the path. They should be OFF or bypassed.  

Bob, K4TAX


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> On Oct 17, 2018, at 9:35 PM, Walter Underwood  wrote:
> 
> Specifically about PSK31, that encoding needs a very linear transmit system. 
> The 25 W recommendation keeps the signal and the peaks in the linear region 
> of most 100 W amps. Modes that do not use phase shift keying on a single 
> carrier might not have the same linearity requirements.
> 
> A clean 25 W PSK31 transmission might be heard better than a distorted 100 W 
> PSK31 transmission.
> 
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2018, at 6:52 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> On 10/17/2018 6:36 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>>> At the same time, many of my contacts are made with 50 watts or less. 
>> 
>> Yup. I mostly use FT8, JT65, and MSK144 on 6M and 160M. I generally run as 
>> much power as I can on 6M, and on 160M to work EU or AF. OTOH, I'm still 
>> trying to finish 160M WAS QRP (need VT and SC), and recently worked the KH1 
>> expedition on 160 with 5W using FT8. They were specifically using FT8 trying 
>> to put some EU stations in the log. I've since learned that AA7JV was the op.
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - Power and my earlier post

2018-10-17 Thread Walter Underwood
Specifically about PSK31, that encoding needs a very linear transmit system. 
The 25 W recommendation keeps the signal and the peaks in the linear region of 
most 100 W amps. Modes that do not use phase shift keying on a single carrier 
might not have the same linearity requirements.

A clean 25 W PSK31 transmission might be heard better than a distorted 100 W 
PSK31 transmission.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 6:52 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
> On 10/17/2018 6:36 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>> At the same time, many of my contacts are made with 50 watts or less. 
> 
> Yup. I mostly use FT8, JT65, and MSK144 on 6M and 160M. I generally run as 
> much power as I can on 6M, and on 160M to work EU or AF. OTOH, I'm still 
> trying to finish 160M WAS QRP (need VT and SC), and recently worked the KH1 
> expedition on 160 with 5W using FT8. They were specifically using FT8 trying 
> to put some EU stations in the log. I've since learned that AA7JV was the op.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 + AX1?

2018-10-17 Thread Jim Sheldon
Hey,
I seem to recall something you said a few years ago about accidentally hitting 
one of your T1 QRP autotuners with 100 watts for a short period and it 
survived.  That being said, not sure I'd want to be in the same county with an 
AX1 connected to a KPA1500 putting out full power, LOL!  The meltdown would be 
horrendous though the amp would most likely survive.

W0EB

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 8:58 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> N! 
> 
> Just joking. Emphasizing the very broad nature of our product line. 
> Frightening Eric, as I tend to do each year around Pacificon/Halloween.
> 
> But seriously: Now that some AX1s have been shipped, I'd love to hear what 
> everyone's working on their forays into the wild.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
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[Elecraft] KPA1500 + AX1?

2018-10-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
N! 

Just joking. Emphasizing the very broad nature of our product line. Frightening 
Eric, as I tend to do each year around Pacificon/Halloween.

But seriously: Now that some AX1s have been shipped, I'd love to hear what 
everyone's working on their forays into the wild.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] OT - Power and my earlier post

2018-10-17 Thread Jim Brown

On 10/17/2018 6:36 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
At the same time, many of my contacts are made with 50 watts or less. 


Yup. I mostly use FT8, JT65, and MSK144 on 6M and 160M. I generally run 
as much power as I can on 6M, and on 160M to work EU or AF. OTOH, I'm 
still trying to finish 160M WAS QRP (need VT and SC), and recently 
worked the KH1 expedition on 160 with 5W using FT8. They were 
specifically using FT8 trying to put some EU stations in the log. I've 
since learned that AA7JV was the op.


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft 20th Anniversary

2018-10-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
The Safari-4 and Koala are one-of-a-kind. They're in my closet :)

Wayne
N6KR


> On Oct 15, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS  wrote:
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> Congrats for your Safari 4 and Koala rigs in collection if you have them!
> SST should not be big problem to find some day...
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Remote Software

2018-10-17 Thread Rick WA6NHC
Ah of course, stupid me.  I was expecting it with the KPA1500 
soft/firmware.  Thank you.


Rick NHC

PS Now to tell Norton to ignore it.


On 10/17/2018 11:02 AM, Richard Thorne wrote:

I use Firefox and I was able to get to 1.22

From the main web site:

    - click on Firmware & S/W
    - click on Logging and Remote Control Software for the ...
    - scroll down to KPA1500, KPA500, KAT500 Remote Software


Rich - N5ZC


On 10/17/2018 12:43 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
I'm reading in the Elecraft newsletter that the KPA1500 remote 
software v1.22 is available now.


I'm not seeing any links.

Is Firefox being stupid again with cache or is it not there?

73,
Rick nhc

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[Elecraft] OT - Power and my earlier post

2018-10-17 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX

Wes, Ed,  et al;

In my past, having worked EME on 2M, 70cm, and 23cm, I understand path 
loss, antenna gain, feed line loss, NF on the mast mounted preamps, amp 
power to legal limit, weak signals,  and etc.   Now with that said, I'm 
no different than anyone trying to work a new one for their DXCC or a 
rare DXpedition, a new state or country or grid square.   What ever 
power it takes is the rule to be applied.    I don't view FT8 as a low 
power mode but it is a weak signal mode.  Likewise for PSK,  JT9 and 
JT65.   At the same time, many of my contacts are made with 50 watts or 
less.   I don't run RTTY but I do enjoy a rag chew QSO on SSB or CW.   
There again, what ever power it takes to make reliable contact is the rule.


I try to be a gentleman with regard to frequency usage, I consider other 
stations on adjacent frequencies, and use the power necessary to make a 
specific contact, based on my antennas, band conditions and the strength 
of the station I'm trying to work. I work 160M through 6M with 3 
antennas.  And yes, the 160M antenna is a 1/2 wave center fed wire with 
balanced feed line.   That antenna works very nicely using the KAT500 
and a nice Balun Designs 1:1 balun sitting on top of the tuner.  With 
the 4 ele 6M yagi at the top of the tower and another wire antenna for a 
total of 3 antennas, I can work any frequency, any band with up to 500 
watts from the KPA500  into the feed lines.  I don't consider any of my 
antennas to be compromises, but typical ham antennas, and I am not 
limited by space or deed restrictions either.


Yes, I'm very aware that two way contacts can be made with 10 mW or 
less...under the right conditions.   But what if every ham world 
wide were limited to 10mW or less.   I really don't want to think about 
it.  On the other hand, I've made a 2 way CW contact using a 2mW green 
laser.  The path was less than 1/2 mile.


Ham radio is a hobby and I've enjoyed it for the past 59 years. I plan 
to enjoy it for a few more years as well, as I purchased real estate to 
better  facilitate my hobby.  There is nothing like elevation, being 500 
ft above average terrain out to 35 miles. Makes for nice ground gain on 
moon rise and moon set as well.


My point in stating I run 400 watts on digital modes is in reference to 
how the KPA500 performs and the fact it emits audible cracks and pops.  
If I ran 400 watts on RTTY then the issue of power would not be of 
concern for the general ham public.   But for digital, the mention of 
that power level seems to raise the hair on ones neck.


No harm in asking fellows.  I do understand  and each to his own objectives.

73

Bob, K4TAX



On 10/17/2018 5:13 PM, Wes Stewart wrote:

Ed,

Not picking on you personally either but I fail to understand this 
attitude that because some digital mode or another can make QSOs with 
10 mW on some path, everyone else should run only10 mW.


I consider my K3S + KPA500 to be a 500W transceiver (with push buttons 
for selecting bands) and that's the way I run it.  Often, especially 
when I'm beating myself up on 160, I wish for more power. When some of 
my DX club buddies tease me about running QRP should I ask them to 
lower their power so we have parity?


Wes  N7WS

ps: When I ran 2-meter EME  30 years ago we actually heard the signals 
by ear.



On 10/17/2018 1:34 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:

Bob,

A question about your statement that you run 400w in digital modes 
(assuming you mean FT8, etc. and not RTTY).  That seems pretty extreme.


I pretty much ignore HF usage as I am not on HF very much (primarily 
an eme'er on 6m+).  But back at the beginnings of psk-31 I built a HB 
interface* for my FT-847 and did a bit of 14.070 operating (with a 
dipole).  I was recommended to not exceeding 25w (or 25% full 
power).  Everyone seemed to do quite well on psk-31 with low power 
and some ran at QRP (<5w).


I do not get why I hear of running high power digital when 10% would 
communicate easily.  You may remonstrate me for running 2m-eme at 
1500w on JT-65 but the path loss on 2m-eme is 254 dB+ and contacts 
are made over a half-million mile path.  Certainly not encountered by 
terrestrial HF users.


Not picking on you personally, but you made the statement so figure 
maybe would reply.  Just curious.


73, Ed - KL7UW
* that I/F later was used for JT-65 on eme 15 years ago.  Now use my 
K3 directly connected.


Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:59:15 -0500
From: Bob McGraw K4TAX 
To: "Dauer, Edward" 
Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

I do run 400 watts or so on digital modes.  Issues are not really 
noted on SSB or CW modes.


I've set the Fan Ctr to 2 and 3 and still noted the issue

Was recently showing my K Line to some hams friends. They commented 
rather negatively on the point.


Bob, K4TAX


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[Elecraft] DISTURBING THE HALLOWEEN IONOSPHERE

2018-10-17 Thread K9ZTV
While we’re Frankenaround here, a reminder that two K3s will again be emanating 
ghostly signals Halloween night from a desolate farmhouse near Frankenstein, 
Missouri, beginning 1900Z on CW and SSB.

Brought to you by the witches and warlocks of Mid-MO ARC of Jefferson City for 
over 25 years from the only incorporated “Frankenstein” in America, W0O will be 
spotted on RBN and other networks.  See QRZ.com for details.

73,

Kent Trimble, K9ZTV
Mid-MO ARC
Special Event Coordinator



> On Oct 17, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> One of our major goals for the AX line in general  was to avoid 
> Frankenhardware.*
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> * But thank you for coining a new word that’s appropriate for the Halloween 
> season.
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[Elecraft] Talk At Pacificon -- Transmitting Chokes for 630M

2018-10-17 Thread Jim Brown
The talk is Saturday morning at 11am. For those out of range of 
Pacificon, slides will be on my website next week.


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] Announcing the Elecraft AX1 whip antenna and accessories

2018-10-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Rich,

The AXT1 tripod adapter has a threaded, stainless steel 1/4-20 PEM nut. So you 
can attach it directly to a standard tripod. 

One of our major goals for the AX line in general  was to avoid 
Frankenhardware.*

73,
Wayne
N6KR

* But thank you for coining a new word that’s appropriate for the Halloween 
season.



http://www.elecraft.com

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 5:12 PM, rich hurd WC3T  wrote:
> 
> Hi Wayne, 
> 
> A couple more details on the AXT1 tripod adapter, if you would;
> 
> From the illustration, it appears that this adapter has the BNC bulkhead 
> connector for the AX-1, that seems plain enough; but there's no spec for how 
> it is secured to the tripod other than the 1/4-20 thread spec.   Is the other 
> side of the adapter a female 1/4-20 connector, requiring only screwing it to 
> the male (as if you were attaching a camera,) or is it simply a through 
> bushing requiring some other means of securing it?   I would hate to order 
> the AXT1 only to find out I now have to run to the hardware store to cobble 
> together some sort of Franken-mount to make it work.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 2:03 PM Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>> Hi gang,
>> 
>> Our new AX1 antenna has to be just about the worst-kept secret in Elecraft 
>> history. We've been tinkering with it for over a year, going on ultralight 
>> field outings and giving hands-on demos of the prototypes at hamfests. 
>> (Thanks for all of your enthusiastic input!)
>> 
>> We're happy to announce that the AX1 is now an official product. You can 
>> find full details and ordering information here:
>> 
>> http://www.elecraft.com/AX1/AX1.htm
>> 
>> Executive summary:  
>> 
>> The AX1 is an ultraportable multi-band whip that disassembles into two 6" 
>> (15 cm) pieces so it can go anywhere and be deployed rapidly. It's resonant 
>> on 20 meters in one switch position, while the other is ideal for efficient 
>> matching on 17 and 15 meters with the aid of an ATU (automatic antenna 
>> tuner). In this sense the AX1 is the perfect companion to the KX2 and KX3, 
>> which both have wide-range internal ATU options.
>> 
>> The AX1 was designed specifically to facilitate pedestrian mobile and 
>> ultralight hiking/backpacking. It can also serve as a convenient backup for 
>> full-sized antennas. It can be deployed in seconds, and when used with a 
>> KX2, puts the world's only all-band, all-mode, 10 watt HF "HT" in the palm 
>> of your hand.
>> 
>> In addition to the antenna itself, we've created two new accessories. 
>> 
>> First there's the AXB1 whip bipod, which can be used for table-top operation 
>> with any lightweight whip antenna. The AXB1 is supplied with a right-angle 
>> BNC adapter, and has adjustable legs to keep the whip from rotating in light 
>> to moderate wind. 
>> 
>> Next is the AXT1 tripod adapter, which allows any camera tripod with a 
>> standard mount (1/4-20) to support a BNC-base whip antenna and a coaxial 
>> feed line. It has extra holes for ground radials and guying/mounting 
>> hardware. 
>> 
>> In short, the AX1 is intended to get us all out of the shack. (It certainly 
>> has in our case.) We hope you find that the AX1 inspires and facilitates 
>> many outdoor adventures to come.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne, N6KR
>> Eric, WA6HHQ
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Announcing the Elecraft AX1 whip antenna and accessories

2018-10-17 Thread rich hurd WC3T
Hi Wayne,

A couple more details on the AXT1 tripod adapter, if you would;

From the illustration, it appears that this adapter has the BNC bulkhead
connector for the AX-1, that seems plain enough; but there's no spec for
how it is secured to the tripod other than the 1/4-20 thread spec.   Is the
other side of the adapter a female 1/4-20 connector, requiring only
screwing it to the male (as if you were attaching a camera,) or is it
simply a through bushing requiring some other means of securing it?   I
would hate to order the AXT1 only to find out I now have to run to the
hardware store to cobble together some sort of Franken-mount to make it
work.

Thanks!


On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 2:03 PM Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> Hi gang,
>
> Our new AX1 antenna has to be just about the worst-kept secret in Elecraft
> history. We've been tinkering with it for over a year, going on ultralight
> field outings and giving hands-on demos of the prototypes at hamfests.
> (Thanks for all of your enthusiastic input!)
>
> We're happy to announce that the AX1 is now an official product. You can
> find full details and ordering information here:
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/AX1/AX1.htm
>
> Executive summary:
>
> The AX1 is an ultraportable multi-band whip that disassembles into two 6"
> (15 cm) pieces so it can go anywhere and be deployed rapidly. It's resonant
> on 20 meters in one switch position, while the other is ideal for efficient
> matching on 17 and 15 meters with the aid of an ATU (automatic antenna
> tuner). In this sense the AX1 is the perfect companion to the KX2 and KX3,
> which both have wide-range internal ATU options.
>
> The AX1 was designed specifically to facilitate pedestrian mobile and
> ultralight hiking/backpacking. It can also serve as a convenient backup for
> full-sized antennas. It can be deployed in seconds, and when used with a
> KX2, puts the world's only all-band, all-mode, 10 watt HF "HT" in the palm
> of your hand.
>
> In addition to the antenna itself, we've created two new accessories.
>
> First there's the AXB1 whip bipod, which can be used for table-top
> operation with any lightweight whip antenna. The AXB1 is supplied with a
> right-angle BNC adapter, and has adjustable legs to keep the whip from
> rotating in light to moderate wind.
>
> Next is the AXT1 tripod adapter, which allows any camera tripod with a
> standard mount (1/4-20) to support a BNC-base whip antenna and a coaxial
> feed line. It has extra holes for ground radials and guying/mounting
> hardware.
>
> In short, the AX1 is intended to get us all out of the shack. (It
> certainly has in our case.) We hope you find that the AX1 inspires and
> facilitates many outdoor adventures to come.
>
> 73,
> Wayne, N6KR
> Eric, WA6HHQ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

2018-10-17 Thread Fred Jensen
That digital modes are all "low power modes" is an unfortunate urban 
legend, Ed.  PSK31 is very narrow and will work well in very narrow RX 
bandwidths.  Noise power, being proportional to bandwidth, will thus be 
less on each end, and lower powers work well.  It's also angle 
modulation and moderately immune to at least Gaussian noise.  JT65, FT8, 
and the other Dr. Joe Taylor modes are "weak signal" not "low power" 
modes.  They operate in roughly a SSB voice channel bandwidth [~3 KHz] 
even though each signal is very narrow.  They will decode at negative 
(S+N)/N ratios in a ~3 KHz channel where there will be many such 
signals.  With today's abysmal conditions, even 1,500 W may result in a 
negative (S+N)/N ratio on the other end.  It's the terrestrial 
equivalent of your lunar path, and no remonstration is required or deserved.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/17/2018 1:34 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:

Bob,

A question about your statement that you run 400w in digital modes 
(assuming you mean FT8, etc. and not RTTY).  That seems pretty extreme.


I pretty much ignore HF usage as I am not on HF very much (primarily 
an eme'er on 6m+).  But back at the beginnings of psk-31 I built a HB 
interface* for my FT-847 and did a bit of 14.070 operating (with a 
dipole).  I was recommended to not exceeding 25w (or 25% full power).  
Everyone seemed to do quite well on psk-31 with low power and some ran 
at QRP (<5w).


I do not get why I hear of running high power digital when 10% would 
communicate easily.  You may remonstrate me for running 2m-eme at 
1500w on JT-65 but the path loss on 2m-eme is 254 dB+ and contacts are 
made over a half-million mile path.  Certainly not encountered by 
terrestrial HF users.


Not picking on you personally, but you made the statement so figure 
maybe would reply.  Just curious.


73, Ed - KL7UW
* that I/F later was used for JT-65 on eme 15 years ago.  Now use my 
K3 directly connected.


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Re: [Elecraft] Announcing the Elecraft AX1 whip antenna and accessories

2018-10-17 Thread Tox
Any chance you'll have these available this weekend in San Ramon?
AD6YT

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:04 AM Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> Hi gang,
>
> Our new AX1 antenna has to be just about the worst-kept secret in Elecraft
> history. We've been tinkering with it for over a year, going on ultralight
> field outings and giving hands-on demos of the prototypes at hamfests.
> (Thanks for all of your enthusiastic input!)
>
> We're happy to announce that the AX1 is now an official product. You can
> find full details and ordering information here:
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/AX1/AX1.htm
>
> Executive summary:
>
> The AX1 is an ultraportable multi-band whip that disassembles into two 6"
> (15 cm) pieces so it can go anywhere and be deployed rapidly. It's resonant
> on 20 meters in one switch position, while the other is ideal for efficient
> matching on 17 and 15 meters with the aid of an ATU (automatic antenna
> tuner). In this sense the AX1 is the perfect companion to the KX2 and KX3,
> which both have wide-range internal ATU options.
>
> The AX1 was designed specifically to facilitate pedestrian mobile and
> ultralight hiking/backpacking. It can also serve as a convenient backup for
> full-sized antennas. It can be deployed in seconds, and when used with a
> KX2, puts the world's only all-band, all-mode, 10 watt HF "HT" in the palm
> of your hand.
>
> In addition to the antenna itself, we've created two new accessories.
>
> First there's the AXB1 whip bipod, which can be used for table-top
> operation with any lightweight whip antenna. The AXB1 is supplied with a
> right-angle BNC adapter, and has adjustable legs to keep the whip from
> rotating in light to moderate wind.
>
> Next is the AXT1 tripod adapter, which allows any camera tripod with a
> standard mount (1/4-20) to support a BNC-base whip antenna and a coaxial
> feed line. It has extra holes for ground radials and guying/mounting
> hardware.
>
> In short, the AX1 is intended to get us all out of the shack. (It
> certainly has in our case.) We hope you find that the AX1 inspires and
> facilitates many outdoor adventures to come.
>
> 73,
> Wayne, N6KR
> Eric, WA6HHQ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Mic

2018-10-17 Thread John Hendricks
Wiring on connector is different so I made up an adapter, easy to figure
out.

John K7JLT

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> I have a spare Icom HM-36.  Anyone know if this will work "well" with KX3
> NK 9G
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Mic

2018-10-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
It can be made to work if you build an adapter.  The microphone jack 
pinout is shown in the KX3 manual.
If you don't have the skill to read the mic jack pinout and relate it to 
a plug, then you likely should develop that skill before you attempt to 
build an adapter.  Some basic wiring knowledge is needed.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/17/2018 5:59 PM, Rick McGaver via Elecraft wrote:

I have a spare Icom HM-36.  Anyone know if this will work "well" with KX3
NK 9G


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

2018-10-17 Thread Wes Stewart

Ed,

Not picking on you personally either but I fail to understand this attitude that 
because some digital mode or another can make QSOs with 10 mW on some path, 
everyone else should run only10 mW.


I consider my K3S + KPA500 to be a 500W transceiver (with push buttons for 
selecting bands) and that's the way I run it.  Often, especially when I'm 
beating myself up on 160, I wish for more power. When some of my DX club buddies 
tease me about running QRP should I ask them to lower their power so we have parity?


Wes  N7WS

ps: When I ran 2-meter EME  30 years ago we actually heard the signals by ear.


On 10/17/2018 1:34 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:

Bob,

A question about your statement that you run 400w in digital modes (assuming 
you mean FT8, etc. and not RTTY).  That seems pretty extreme.


I pretty much ignore HF usage as I am not on HF very much (primarily an eme'er 
on 6m+).  But back at the beginnings of psk-31 I built a HB interface* for my 
FT-847 and did a bit of 14.070 operating (with a dipole).  I was recommended 
to not exceeding 25w (or 25% full power).  Everyone seemed to do quite well on 
psk-31 with low power and some ran at QRP (<5w).


I do not get why I hear of running high power digital when 10% would 
communicate easily.  You may remonstrate me for running 2m-eme at 1500w on 
JT-65 but the path loss on 2m-eme is 254 dB+ and contacts are made over a 
half-million mile path.  Certainly not encountered by terrestrial HF users.


Not picking on you personally, but you made the statement so figure maybe 
would reply.  Just curious.


73, Ed - KL7UW
* that I/F later was used for JT-65 on eme 15 years ago.  Now use my K3 
directly connected.


Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:59:15 -0500
From: Bob McGraw K4TAX 
To: "Dauer, Edward" 
Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

I do run 400 watts or so on digital modes.  Issues are not really noted on SSB 
or CW modes.


I've set the Fan Ctr to 2 and 3 and still noted the issue

Was recently showing my K Line to some hams friends. They commented rather 
negatively on the point.


Bob, K4TAX


73, Ed - KL7UW
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[Elecraft] KX3 Mic

2018-10-17 Thread Rick McGaver via Elecraft

I have a spare Icom HM-36.  Anyone know if this will work "well" with KX3
NK 9G

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

2018-10-17 Thread James Bennett via Elecraft
Ed,

Haven’t seen a response from him yet, but he may be taking about 160 meters. 
From what I have read, that may be an acceptable thing on that band, given QSB, 
band conditions, and antenna limitations.

Jim / W6JHB

> On Oct 17, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Edward R Cole  wrote:
> 
> Bob,
> 
> A question about your statement that you run 400w in digital modes (assuming 
> you mean FT8, etc. and not RTTY).  That seems pretty extreme.
> 
> I pretty much ignore HF usage as I am not on HF very much (primarily an 
> eme'er on 6m+).  But back at the beginnings of psk-31 I built a HB interface* 
> for my FT-847 and did a bit of 14.070 operating (with a dipole).  I was 
> recommended to not exceeding 25w (or 25% full power).  Everyone seemed to do 
> quite well on psk-31 with low power and some ran at QRP (<5w).
> 
> I do not get why I hear of running high power digital when 10% would 
> communicate easily.  You may remonstrate me for running 2m-eme at 1500w on 
> JT-65 but the path loss on 2m-eme is 254 dB+ and contacts are made over a 
> half-million mile path.  Certainly not encountered by terrestrial HF users.
> 
> Not picking on you personally, but you made the statement so figure maybe 
> would reply.  Just curious.
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> * that I/F later was used for JT-65 on eme 15 years ago.  Now use my K3 
> directly connected.
> 
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:59:15 -0500
> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX 
> To: "Dauer, Edward" 
> Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii
> 
> I do run 400 watts or so on digital modes.  Issues are not really noted on 
> SSB or CW modes.
> 
> I've set the Fan Ctr to 2 and 3 and still noted the issue
> 
> Was recently showing my K Line to some hams friends. They commented rather 
> negatively on the point.
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>  http://www.kl7uw.com
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Re: [Elecraft] No Tx Audio

2018-10-17 Thread paul ecker via Elecraft
Joe & Bob - thank you very much, you nailed it. The K3 Monitor, when the K3 was 
in a digital mode, was at 0. Now  have it turned up to 6 and my problem is 
solved in all the digital modes I listed. Tnx fer quick response.
73 Paul w2eck
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops

2018-10-17 Thread Edward R Cole

Bob,

A question about your statement that you run 400w in digital modes 
(assuming you mean FT8, etc. and not RTTY).  That seems pretty extreme.


I pretty much ignore HF usage as I am not on HF very much (primarily 
an eme'er on 6m+).  But back at the beginnings of psk-31 I built a HB 
interface* for my FT-847 and did a bit of 14.070 operating (with a 
dipole).  I was recommended to not exceeding 25w (or 25% full 
power).  Everyone seemed to do quite well on psk-31 with low power 
and some ran at QRP (<5w).


I do not get why I hear of running high power digital when 10% would 
communicate easily.  You may remonstrate me for running 2m-eme at 
1500w on JT-65 but the path loss on 2m-eme is 254 dB+ and contacts 
are made over a half-million mile path.  Certainly not encountered by 
terrestrial HF users.


Not picking on you personally, but you made the statement so figure 
maybe would reply.  Just curious.


73, Ed - KL7UW
* that I/F later was used for JT-65 on eme 15 years ago.  Now use my 
K3 directly connected.


Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:59:15 -0500
From: Bob McGraw K4TAX 
To: "Dauer, Edward" 
Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Clicks & Pops
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

I do run 400 watts or so on digital modes.  Issues are not really 
noted on SSB or CW modes.


I've set the Fan Ctr to 2 and 3 and still noted the issue

Was recently showing my K Line to some hams friends. They commented 
rather negatively on the point.


Bob, K4TAX


73, Ed - KL7UW
  http://www.kl7uw.com
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Re: [Elecraft] No Tx Audio

2018-10-17 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


>  Not sure if this is a K3 issue or a Windows 10 problem.

Turn on the K3 Monitor (turn up the level).  Select a Data
mode, *HOLD* the CMP/PWR/MONI encoder in until the VFO B
area of the display shows MONI ## and adjust ## until you
hear the monitor audio while transmitting.

All documented in the Owners Manual ...

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2018-10-17 2:46 PM, paul ecker via Elecraft wrote:

Problem: Not hearing any audio during transmit in digital modes.I have a K3, 
Win 10 PC, with microHam DKII interface. When transmitting inRTTY, PSK31 or 
FT-8 I am not hearing any Tx audio, which I had been previously.  I first 
noticed this in RTTY when not hearingany diddles. But when using MMTTY – the K3 
goes to Tx , I am getting power out and Iam being seen on the RTTY RBN. In 
PSK31 using WinWabler and FT-8 using WSJT-X, Iam making successful QSO’s. I 
have gone thru the DK II manual setup pages for theseprograms and cannot find 
errors in my setup. Not sure if this is a K3 issue or a Windows 10 problem. 
Anyone have any ideas on what might be wrong?
73Paulw2eck
  


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[Elecraft] Talk on early wireless and Marconi

2018-10-17 Thread Don Minkoff
I will be giving a talk on the Marconi Museum and early wireless at 
Pacificon, 11 AM.  Everyone is invited. Also, my 15 day traveling 
adventure in Italy with my KX2.


Don, NK6A



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Re: [Elecraft] No Tx Audio

2018-10-17 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Check your MON level on your K3.   I run mine about 8 for digital 
modes.  I know nothing about the MicroHam DKII.   I just run the USB 
interface between the computer running the application software and the 
radio.    I only use 3 software applications, WSJT-X, HRD or FLDIGI.  
And with those, I run only one at a time. Logging is handled totally 
separate.


73

Bob, K4TAX



On 10/17/2018 1:46 PM, paul ecker via Elecraft wrote:

Problem: Not hearing any audio during transmit in digital modes.I have a K3, 
Win 10 PC, with microHam DKII interface. When transmitting inRTTY, PSK31 or 
FT-8 I am not hearing any Tx audio, which I had been previously.  I first 
noticed this in RTTY when not hearingany diddles. But when using MMTTY – the K3 
goes to Tx , I am getting power out and Iam being seen on the RTTY RBN. In 
PSK31 using WinWabler and FT-8 using WSJT-X, Iam making successful QSO’s. I 
have gone thru the DK II manual setup pages for theseprograms and cannot find 
errors in my setup. Not sure if this is a K3 issue or a Windows 10 problem. 
Anyone have any ideas on what might be wrong?
73Paulw2eck
  


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[Elecraft] No Tx Audio

2018-10-17 Thread paul ecker via Elecraft
Problem: Not hearing any audio during transmit in digital modes.I have a K3, 
Win 10 PC, with microHam DKII interface. When transmitting inRTTY, PSK31 or 
FT-8 I am not hearing any Tx audio, which I had been previously.  I first 
noticed this in RTTY when not hearingany diddles. But when using MMTTY – the K3 
goes to Tx , I am getting power out and Iam being seen on the RTTY RBN. In 
PSK31 using WinWabler and FT-8 using WSJT-X, Iam making successful QSO’s. I 
have gone thru the DK II manual setup pages for theseprograms and cannot find 
errors in my setup. Not sure if this is a K3 issue or a Windows 10 problem. 
Anyone have any ideas on what might be wrong? 
73Paulw2eck
 

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[Elecraft] Announcing the Elecraft AX1 whip antenna and accessories

2018-10-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi gang,

Our new AX1 antenna has to be just about the worst-kept secret in Elecraft 
history. We've been tinkering with it for over a year, going on ultralight 
field outings and giving hands-on demos of the prototypes at hamfests. (Thanks 
for all of your enthusiastic input!)

We're happy to announce that the AX1 is now an official product. You can find 
full details and ordering information here:

http://www.elecraft.com/AX1/AX1.htm

Executive summary:  

The AX1 is an ultraportable multi-band whip that disassembles into two 6" (15 
cm) pieces so it can go anywhere and be deployed rapidly. It's resonant on 20 
meters in one switch position, while the other is ideal for efficient matching 
on 17 and 15 meters with the aid of an ATU (automatic antenna tuner). In this 
sense the AX1 is the perfect companion to the KX2 and KX3, which both have 
wide-range internal ATU options.

The AX1 was designed specifically to facilitate pedestrian mobile and 
ultralight hiking/backpacking. It can also serve as a convenient backup for 
full-sized antennas. It can be deployed in seconds, and when used with a KX2, 
puts the world's only all-band, all-mode, 10 watt HF "HT" in the palm of your 
hand.

In addition to the antenna itself, we've created two new accessories. 

First there's the AXB1 whip bipod, which can be used for table-top operation 
with any lightweight whip antenna. The AXB1 is supplied with a right-angle BNC 
adapter, and has adjustable legs to keep the whip from rotating in light to 
moderate wind. 

Next is the AXT1 tripod adapter, which allows any camera tripod with a standard 
mount (1/4-20) to support a BNC-base whip antenna and a coaxial feed line. It 
has extra holes for ground radials and guying/mounting hardware. 

In short, the AX1 is intended to get us all out of the shack. (It certainly has 
in our case.) We hope you find that the AX1 inspires and facilitates many 
outdoor adventures to come.

73,
Wayne, N6KR
Eric, WA6HHQ









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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Remote Software

2018-10-17 Thread Richard Thorne

I use Firefox and I was able to get to 1.22

From the main web site:

    - click on Firmware & S/W
    - click on Logging and Remote Control Software for the ...
    - scroll down to KPA1500, KPA500, KAT500 Remote Software


Rich - N5ZC


On 10/17/2018 12:43 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
I'm reading in the Elecraft newsletter that the KPA1500 remote 
software v1.22 is available now.


I'm not seeing any links.

Is Firefox being stupid again with cache or is it not there?

73,
Rick nhc

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[Elecraft] KPA1500 Remote Software

2018-10-17 Thread Rick WA6NHC
I'm reading in the Elecraft newsletter that the KPA1500 remote software 
v1.22 is available now.


I'm not seeing any links.

Is Firefox being stupid again with cache or is it not there?

73,
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[Elecraft] P3 Cursors

2018-10-17 Thread Ed gilliland

Message: 10
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 09:21:36 -0700 (MST)
From: n6hz
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft P3 Bar Cursor
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Hi Ed,

Are there magenta and green arrows toward the bottom of the spectrum display?


yes


These indicate where the cursors are relative to your current center frequency. 



Understood


If  you are in fixed tune mode, you can easily re-center your VFO A cursor by 
two consecutive long presses of the SPAN/CENTER button.


In Fixed Tune Mode, two consecutive long presses of the SPAN/CENTER button 
didn't help.  Green and Magenta arrows are still at the bottom left of the 
display   


If all else fails, a memory reset can be performed by holding down the MENU
button while powering up the P3.  Note that this will erase an function key
settings.


I did a memory reset.  The green and magenta arrows are still at the bottom 
left of the display.
I reloaded all firmware with the latest versions.  The Green and Magenta arrows 
are still at the bottom left of the display.



The P3 seems to be working with the exception of the U and BAR cursors.


Ed

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Re: [Elecraft] Looking at KPA1500

2018-10-17 Thread Erik Basilier
Ignacy, for many years I was using a legal limit tube amp in combination
with a manual tuner. For 20m and up, where the antenna has low swr and broad
bandwidth, I would put the tuner in bypass position. For 40m the tuner would
be active and I would manually adjust it, which didn't happen very often as
I would mostly stay in the cw portion of the band. The amp could perhaps
have handled the swr on 40m without a tuner, but I used the external tuner
so I could tune up the amp on a dummy load rather than on the air. Over the
years I did occasionally forget to switch the tuner into or out of bypass
when going to a different band. So, manual switching rather than manual
tuning was a bit of a problem. Now used to the KPA500/KAT500, I am spoiled
and don't want to go back to having to remember to switch. I was hoping that
the KPA1500 would not have the tuner built in, but I can see how most users
save money with a built-in tuner. When I said my antenna swr can be up to
4.5, I quoted the worst case I can remember. The 40m coil is copper clamped
onto aluminum elements. When I installed the antenna in 1993 I didn't apply
compound to keep the joints healthy. Over the years, when I have been
inactive for a long period such as a year, I have noticed the higher swr
values that I quoted. Some operation at high power has then restored band
edge swr readings to somewhat lower values, such as 4:1. If I recall
correctly, those readings were well under 4:1 when the antenna was newly
installed.  I intend to service the antenna some day and get back to those
better swr readings, but accessing the antenna for service is for me a big
and difficult undertaking. With the prospect of getting somewhat close to
the 3:1 limit,  I am very interested in detailed derating numbers for the
KPA1500 tuner, as well as any information that might indicate that it can
safely handle somewhat higher swr depending on the actual complex load
impedance..

73,
Erik K7TV

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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 7:59 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Looking at KPA1500

The low range tuners up to 3:1 are very low loss and then can be made
reliable. High range tuner for 1.5KW would be less so. 

You may buy MFJ-998 as an extra. I use MFJ-998 with 1.5 KW and a
ladderline-fed dipole for a few years. Only small problems like burnt diode
in SWR circuit or smoked capacitor by the output connector. But it is better
to have such problems outside of the amp.

Another choice is to have an AB switch where the same antenna is connected
to A directly and to B via  capacitor that lowers the SWR where otherwise it
is too high. 


Ignacy, NO9E



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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failure

2018-10-17 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Hi Robert,

Please contact supp...@elecraft.com immediately so we can help you.

Using the KPA1500 utility to download and sending us your KPA1500 config file is 
always required in cases like this and it will also help us quickly diagnose 
what's up. (That file contains the full amp setup and fault log history.) 
Hopefully, this may just be a cockpit error. (Overdrive activates the 3 dB input 
attenuator.)


Also, NEVER drive the KPA1500 at 100W! That is well in excess of its fault level 
and can damage the amp. Our normal max input drive level is about 61 W or so if 
I recall correctly.


Above that point the 1500 automatically lights the yellow OVR light and switches 
on a -3 dB input attenuator. After continuous drive for 10-20 secs at just above 
this max drive level the amp will then hard fault into standby. Never increase 
drive when the OVR light is on - that will only increase the risk of damaging 
the amp.


OVR and the 3 dB attenuator will activate for overdrive, high reflected power, 
high PA current etc. When it lights, that is a message to REDUCE DRIVE and 
correct the problem. Once the drive is reduced, after several seconds the OVR 
light and input attenuator will turn back off.


Please, -never- increase drive power when the OVR light is on or blinking.

73,
Eric
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(Note - To make sure everyone gets this info, I've send substantially the same 
email via the list to the three of you who have posted on this topic this morning.)

/
On 10/17/2018 4:54 AM, ROBERT MUELLER wrote:

I have the same problem. I thought it was in the software I am using (HRD, FT8, 
JTAlerX). Perhaps not.
I have to but in 100 watts from the K3S to get about 900 watts out.



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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failure

2018-10-17 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Hi Paul,

Can you send me the contact info for your friend so we can help him?  (Or have 
him contact supp...@elecraft.com immediately.)


Using the KPA1500 utility to download and sending us your KPA1500 config file is 
always required in cases like this and it will also help us quickly diagnose 
what's up. (That file contains the full amp setup and fault log history.) 
Hopefully, this may just be a cockpit error. (Overdrive activates the 3 dB input 
attenuator.)


Also, NEVER drive the KPA1500 at 100W! That is well in excess of its fault level 
and can damage the amp. Our normal max input drive level is about 61 W or so if 
I recall correctly.  Above that point the 1500 automatically lights the yellow 
OVR light and switches on a -3 dB input attenuator. After continuous slight 
drive for 10-20 secs at above this max drive level the amp will then hard fault 
into standby. Never increase drive when the OVR light is on - that will only 
increase the risk of damaging the amp.


OVR and the 3 dB attenuator will activate for overdrive, high reflected power, 
high PA current etc. When it lights, that is a message to REDUCE DRIVE and 
correct the problem. Once the drive is reduced, after several seconds the OVR 
light and input attenuator will turn back off.


73,
Eric
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On 10/16/2018 7:35 PM, Paul Baldock wrote:
A friend of mine's KPA-1500 has just failed. It behaves like half the PA has 
died, with max output power about 900W, and requiring excessive drive to get 
that. He has calls in to service but no response yet. Has anybody experienced 
such a failure?


Thanks

- Paul  KW7Y

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 not amplifying

2018-10-17 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Hi Bob - I just saw your post below.

Please contact supp...@elecraft.com immediately and we'll help you figure out 
what is happening. Using the KPA1500 utility to download and sending us your 
KPA1500 config file is always required in cases like this and it will also help 
us quickly diagnose what's up. (that file contains the full amp setup and fault 
log history.) Hopefully, this may just be a cockpit error.


Also, NEVER drive the KPA1500 at 100W! That is well in excess of its fault level 
and can damage the amp. Our normal max input drive level is about 61 W or so if 
I recall correctly.  Above that point the 1500 automatically lights the yellow 
OVR light and switches on a -3 dB input attenuator. After continuous slight 
drive for 10-20 secs at above this max drive level the amp will then hard fault 
into standby. Never increase drive when the OVR light is on - that will only 
increase the risk of damaging the amp.


OVR and the 3 dB attenuator will activate for overdrive, high reflected power, 
high PA current etc. When it lights, that is a message to reduce drive and 
correct the problem. Once the drive is reduced, after several seconds the OVR 
light and input attenuator will turn back off.


73,

Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 10/17/2018 7:45 AM, Bob Rennard via Elecraft wrote:

I used my K3S driving my KPA1500 on Saturday during Makrothen and state QSO 
parties with no issues.  I have the integration cable and RG-8X for the RF path.


Sunday AM with the K3S set to 22 W, the KPA1500 was outputting 22 W more or 
less, not the 750 W I expected and got the day before.

With the K3S set to 11.5 W, the KPA1500 produced about 400 W out.

With the K3S set at 100 W, and the KPA1500 in STBY, the KPA1500 power meter 
read 100 W more or less.


Later in the day the situation self-healed, but the healing did not last.


Trouble shooting ideas ?  The recent KPA1500 manual troubleshooting section 
suggests the obvious stuff which is irrelevant.


N7WY - Bob R
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Re: [Elecraft] Looking at KPA1500

2018-10-17 Thread Ignacy
The low range tuners up to 3:1 are very low loss and then can be made
reliable. High range tuner for 1.5KW would be less so. 

You may buy MFJ-998 as an extra. I use MFJ-998 with 1.5 KW and a
ladderline-fed dipole for a few years. Only small problems like burnt diode
in SWR circuit or smoked capacitor by the output connector. But it is better
to have such problems outside of the amp.

Another choice is to have an AB switch where the same antenna is connected
to A directly and to B via  capacitor that lowers the SWR where otherwise it
is too high. 


Ignacy, NO9E



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[Elecraft] KPA1500 not amplifying

2018-10-17 Thread Bob Rennard via Elecraft
I used my K3S driving my KPA1500 on Saturday during Makrothen and state QSO 
parties with no issues.  I have the integration cable and RG-8X for the RF path.


Sunday AM with the K3S set to 22 W, the KPA1500 was outputting 22 W more or 
less, not the 750 W I expected and got the day before.

With the K3S set to 11.5 W, the KPA1500 produced about 400 W out.

With the K3S set at 100 W, and the KPA1500 in STBY, the KPA1500 power meter 
read 100 W more or less.


Later in the day the situation self-healed, but the healing did not last.


Trouble shooting ideas ?  The recent KPA1500 manual troubleshooting section 
suggests the obvious stuff which is irrelevant.


N7WY - Bob R
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failure

2018-10-17 Thread ROBERT MUELLER
I have the same problem. I thought it was in the software I am using (HRD, FT8, 
JTAlerX). Perhaps not.
I have to but in 100 watts from the K3S to get about 900 watts out.

> On October 16, 2018 at 10:35 PM Paul Baldock  mailto:p...@paulbaldock.com > wrote:
> 
> 
> A friend of mine's KPA-1500 has just failed. It behaves like half the
> PA has died, with max output power about 900W, and requiring
> excessive drive to get that. He has calls in to service but no
> response yet. Has anybody experienced such a failure?
> 
> Thanks
> * Paul KW7Y
> 
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[Elecraft] What is the TX DLY of a KX3?

2018-10-17 Thread Bob Wilson, N6TV
What is the fixed delay between KEY OUT going low and RF coming out of a
KX3?  The K3 has a CONFIG:TX DLY setting, but I find no equivalent in the
KX3 manuals.  The concern would be RF hot switching if the external
amplifier relay is too slow.

>From the KX3 manual:

"The keyline output goes low during transmit, and can be used for
transmit/receive switching of linear amplifiers and transverters."  The TX
Delay does not appear to be documented.

(KEY OUT on a KX3 is the RING contact of the 2.5 mm stereo connector
labeled ACC2).

73,
Bob, N6TV
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Re: [Elecraft] Looking at KPA1500

2018-10-17 Thread Erik Basilier
Jim, my antenna is somewhat unusual. It is a Sommer XP-708, where the
hardware added to enable 40m is very minimal: just a coil hooked up between
two points on an antenna whose dimensions say "20m and up". Given that each
antenna element is appropriate for 20m or shorter wavelength, and the boom
is no longer than the elements, the narrow bandwidth on 40  is not
surprising. Also, the antenna has no directivity at all on 40. One might
wonder if this antenna might be a compromise in other respects, but the
performance in actual use has always been a positive surprise to me. For the
cost of adding 40m to the basic design, I would say that it is a great
value. 

73,
Erik K7TV

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Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:58 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Looking at KPA1500

On 10/16/2018 10:24 PM, Erik Basilier wrote:
> My main 40m antenna meets that requirement over a significant portion 
> of the band, but at band edges swr can be 4.5:1 or so.

Hmmm. 40M is not very wide (only 4.2%, as compared to 80M which is 14.3%).
What kind of antenna is it? Simple antennas without traps or loading coils
like resonant dipoles and verticals typically cover 40M with SWR below 2:1
if tuned to the center of the band.

80M is the tough one, but can be tamed with some transmission line and or
stub tricks.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] Looking at KPA1500

2018-10-17 Thread Jim Brown

On 10/16/2018 10:24 PM, Erik Basilier wrote:

My main 40m antenna meets that requirement over a
significant portion of the band, but at band edges swr can be 4.5:1 or so.


Hmmm. 40M is not very wide (only 4.2%, as compared to 80M which is 
14.3%). What kind of antenna is it? Simple antennas without traps or 
loading coils like resonant dipoles and verticals typically cover 40M 
with SWR below 2:1 if tuned to the center of the band.


80M is the tough one, but can be tamed with some transmission line and 
or stub tricks.


73, Jim K9YC

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