Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Wisdom
To be on the safe side, wear only cotton clothing; no wool or synthetic clothes. Cotton will be least likely to pick-up any charges. 73 Jerry KM3K KX3 #6088 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 8:28 PM To: John, 9H5G; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Wisdom John, As for the advice about screwdrivers, yes, get yourself a quality, new #1 phillips. I like the ones from Ace Hardware with the blue handles (Pro Series), and I like the 8 inch length, just because I learned to use that length many, many years ago - pick whatever length you are comfortable with,but do buy a quality screwdriver from a reputable supplier - a bargain bin screwdriver tip is usually not cut with adequate precision. If you can see shiny spots on the corners of the tip, it is not adequate for the task, it will slip and strip your screwheads. My method of judging a phillips tip driver is if it does not hold a 3/16 inch phillips head screw when it is held horizontally, it is time for that screwdriver to be replaced. I take issue with the suggestion to use magnetic holders and the insert bits. I prefer not to have any magnetic tools at my electronics workbench, they attract stray bits of cutoff component leads and other things stick to the tools. YMMV on that one - take your pick. I use several magnetic holders to great benefit in the woodworking shop, but never at the electronics workbench. As for anti-static, yes take measures - a wrist strap is a minimum, if you have an anti-static mat at the workbench, work on that surface, especially when handling unmounted boards. Do NOT work on a completely conducting surface such as a bare metal desktop or cookie sheet, or aluminum foil or whatever - fully conductive surfaces can also create static damage when they contact that fully conductive surface and are a safety hazard if there are live power sources anywhere near. Newspapers misted with a spray of water in addition to the wrist strap can be more effective than a fully conducting surface. If you have no other alternative, cut open one of the black anti-static bags that the boards are packed in, connect it to a 1 megohm resistor with a clip lead, and ground the far end of the 1 megohm resistor to the center screw on an AC receptacle cover plate (your wrist strap can ground to the same place). As has been said about the egg cartons, stay away from most plastic containers for sorting because plastics and foam stuff attracts a static charge. If you need to sort the hardware into the various sizes, use metal tins (Altoids tins?) or paper cups. If you are adept at spotting a screw size and length 'by eye', you can just dump all the hardware into a large box and pick the right ones from there. Those having long term experience with woodworking measurements or metalworking will have that ability. Make such judgements based on what you know about your abilities. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/3/2014 3:51 PM, John, 9H5G wrote: Gentlemen, Thank you for a fantastic list of hints and tips so far! As Gary, KI4GGX, pointed out I should have mentioned the options that I have coming. It's a K3/100 with a KRX3 and a handful of filters. Simple but very effective, I'm sure. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jso...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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IMHO there is only one Perfect WayDon't buy a kit let Elecraft build it, burn it in, do setup. Then I open the box when I get it and in less than 5 min. I'm on the air. Oh yes I've been studying the manuals both the build one and operating one (downloaded printed in 3 ring binder with sheet protectors) like every piece of gear I own. I did build my K2 and KPA500 that is the reason I like Elecraft the option to do so, some things I just want them to do they are very reasonable. The big plus you have more time to operate instead of building. 73, Fred/N0AZZ K3 Ser # 6730--KX3 # 5210--K2/100 # 6470-KAT100 P3/SVGA--KAT500--W2 Amps Elecraft KPA500 HF/6m--Alpha's 9500 HF--87A HF--Mirage B-5030-G 300+w--(2) B-5016-G's 165w 2m -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerome Sodus Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 8:55 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Wisdom To be on the safe side, wear only cotton clothing; no wool or synthetic clothes. Cotton will be least likely to pick-up any charges. 73 Jerry KM3K KX3 #6088 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 8:28 PM To: John, 9H5G; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Wisdom John, As for the advice about screwdrivers, yes, get yourself a quality, new #1 phillips. I like the ones from Ace Hardware with the blue handles (Pro Series), and I like the 8 inch length, just because I learned to use that length many, many years ago - pick whatever length you are comfortable with,but do buy a quality screwdriver from a reputable supplier - a bargain bin screwdriver tip is usually not cut with adequate precision. If you can see shiny spots on the corners of the tip, it is not adequate for the task, it will slip and strip your screwheads. My method of judging a phillips tip driver is if it does not hold a 3/16 inch phillips head screw when it is held horizontally, it is time for that screwdriver to be replaced. I take issue with the suggestion to use magnetic holders and the insert bits. I prefer not to have any magnetic tools at my electronics workbench, they attract stray bits of cutoff component leads and other things stick to the tools. YMMV on that one - take your pick. I use several magnetic holders to great benefit in the woodworking shop, but never at the electronics workbench. As for anti-static, yes take measures - a wrist strap is a minimum, if you have an anti-static mat at the workbench, work on that surface, especially when handling unmounted boards. Do NOT work on a completely conducting surface such as a bare metal desktop or cookie sheet, or aluminum foil or whatever - fully conductive surfaces can also create static damage when they contact that fully conductive surface and are a safety hazard if there are live power sources anywhere near. Newspapers misted with a spray of water in addition to the wrist strap can be more effective than a fully conducting surface. If you have no other alternative, cut open one of the black anti-static bags that the boards are packed in, connect it to a 1 megohm resistor with a clip lead, and ground the far end of the 1 megohm resistor to the center screw on an AC receptacle cover plate (your wrist strap can ground to the same place). As has been said about the egg cartons, stay away from most plastic containers for sorting because plastics and foam stuff attracts a static charge. If you need to sort the hardware into the various sizes, use metal tins (Altoids tins?) or paper cups. If you are adept at spotting a screw size and length 'by eye', you can just dump all the hardware into a large box and pick the right ones from there. Those having long term experience with woodworking measurements or metalworking will have that ability. Make such judgements based on what you know about your abilities. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/3/2014 3:51 PM, John, 9H5G wrote: Gentlemen, Thank you for a fantastic list of hints and tips so far! As Gary, KI4GGX, pointed out I should have mentioned the options that I have coming. It's a K3/100 with a KRX3 and a handful of filters. Simple but very effective, I'm sure. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jso...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to m
[Elecraft] K3 Kit Wisdom (or experience, anyway)
One other tool I found essential - and I don¹t recall if anyone has mentioned this yet - is a hand-held magnifying glass with built-in illumination. There are at least two kinds of occasions when this could be important. One is those few places in which the soldered leads on a small board have to be nibbled down to avoid contact with an overlying metallic part (the instructions specify these points.) The glass helps greatly in assuring that the clearance actually exists. The other are the more numerous places in which the boards and other components are connected with multi-pin connector blocks, at least some of which could be (I think) connected with sideways displacement, or not fully inserted at all. I used the glass to inspect every one of them from every possible angle before going on. Once the whole assembly is complete it would be annoying at best to identify an error like that. In my experience (loaded K3, KPA500, KAT500, P3 and KX3) the only step I found really difficult was inserting the K3¹s sub receiver. Three hands with fingers 2 mm wide and eight inches long would have helped. I have but two, shorter and stubbier than that. What I found worked best was, after unsuccessful attempt number five, quit for the night and have a drink. Ted, KN1CBR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Wisdom (or experience, anyway)
I would agree, but I prefer a bifocal magnifier head band with an external light. I have two, one with an extra magnifying loop.. You definitely need some kind of magnifier unless you are very young with great eyesight or have a pet hawk or eagle to help. Seeing eye dogs don't help much as they have great hearing which does not help unless you have power on and draw an arc. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart On Sunday, May 4, 2014 10:10 AM, Dauer, Edward eda...@law.du.edu wrote: One other tool I found essential - and I don¹t recall if anyone has mentioned this yet - is a hand-held magnifying glass with built-in illumination. There are at least two kinds of occasions when this could be important. One is those few places in which the soldered leads on a small board have to be nibbled down to avoid contact with an overlying metallic part (the instructions specify these points.) The glass helps greatly in assuring that the clearance actually exists. The other are the more numerous places in which the boards and other components are connected with multi-pin connector blocks, at least some of which could be (I think) connected with sideways displacement, or not fully inserted at all. I used the glass to inspect every one of them from every possible angle before going on. Once the whole assembly is complete it would be annoying at best to identify an error like that. In my experience (loaded K3, KPA500, KAT500, P3 and KX3) the only step I found really difficult was inserting the K3¹s sub receiver. Three hands with fingers 2 mm wide and eight inches long would have helped. I have but two, shorter and stubbier than that. What I found worked best was, after unsuccessful attempt number five, quit for the night and have a drink. Ted, KN1CBR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wrco...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Wisdom (or experience, anyway)
I picked up a Magnifying Headband years ago when I built my K2. It has been extremely handy over the years, and practically a necessity when building kits. Items I would say that are good to have in general are: Patience (don't rush, enjoy the build) A good set of screwdrivers (Craftsmen). A quality set of Nippy cutters. A Magnifying visor (I also have a lighted hand held magnifying glass for inspecting surface mount). Good Lighting. A good static mat. A pencil to check of the steps. Plastic divided boxes to organize the hardware. I also bring up the PDF file of the manual on my computer to zoom in on the photos. From: WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net To: Dauer, Edward eda...@law.du.edu; elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Wisdom (or experience, anyway) I would agree, but I prefer a bifocal magnifier head band with an external light. I have two, one with an extra magnifying loop.. You definitely need some kind of magnifier unless you are very young with great eyesight or have a pet hawk or eagle to help. Seeing eye dogs don't help much as they have great hearing which does not help unless you have power on and draw an arc. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart On Sunday, May 4, 2014 10:10 AM, Dauer, Edward eda...@law.du.edu wrote: One other tool I found essential - and I don¹t recall if anyone has mentioned this yet - is a hand-held magnifying glass with built-in illumination. There are at least two kinds of occasions when this could be important. One is those few places in which the soldered leads on a small board have to be nibbled down to avoid contact with an overlying metallic part (the instructions specify these points.) The glass helps greatly in assuring that the clearance actually exists. The other are the more numerous places in which the boards and other components are connected with multi-pin connector blocks, at least some of which could be (I think) connected with sideways displacement, or not fully inserted at all. I used the glass to inspect every one of them from every possible angle before going on. Once the whole assembly is complete it would be annoying at best to identify an error like that. In my experience (loaded K3, KPA500, KAT500, P3 and KX3) the only step I found really difficult was inserting the K3¹s sub receiver. Three hands with fingers 2 mm wide and eight inches long would have helped. I have but two, shorter and stubbier than that. What I found worked best was, after unsuccessful attempt number five, quit for the night and have a drink. Ted, KN1CBR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wrco...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Wisdom
Elecraft needs to develop a kit-building jumpsuit. They could use static dissipative cloth like we have for our smocks at work. Maybe have Eric and Wayne's faces silk-screened on the back. An added option would be a Batman-like utility belt that has a wrist strap and the correct screwdrivers. On 5/4/2014 8:55 AM, Jerome Sodus wrote: To be on the safe side, wear only cotton clothing; no wool or synthetic clothes. Cotton will be least likely to pick-up any charges. 73 Jerry KM3K KX3 #6088 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 8:28 PM To: John, 9H5G; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Wisdom John, As for the advice about screwdrivers, yes, get yourself a quality, new #1 phillips. I like the ones from Ace Hardware with the blue handles (Pro Series), and I like the 8 inch length, just because I learned to use that length many, many years ago - pick whatever length you are comfortable with,but do buy a quality screwdriver from a reputable supplier - a bargain bin screwdriver tip is usually not cut with adequate precision. If you can see shiny spots on the corners of the tip, it is not adequate for the task, it will slip and strip your screwheads. My method of judging a phillips tip driver is if it does not hold a 3/16 inch phillips head screw when it is held horizontally, it is time for that screwdriver to be replaced. I take issue with the suggestion to use magnetic holders and the insert bits. I prefer not to have any magnetic tools at my electronics workbench, they attract stray bits of cutoff component leads and other things stick to the tools. YMMV on that one - take your pick. I use several magnetic holders to great benefit in the woodworking shop, but never at the electronics workbench. As for anti-static, yes take measures - a wrist strap is a minimum, if you have an anti-static mat at the workbench, work on that surface, especially when handling unmounted boards. Do NOT work on a completely conducting surface such as a bare metal desktop or cookie sheet, or aluminum foil or whatever - fully conductive surfaces can also create static damage when they contact that fully conductive surface and are a safety hazard if there are live power sources anywhere near. Newspapers misted with a spray of water in addition to the wrist strap can be more effective than a fully conducting surface. If you have no other alternative, cut open one of the black anti-static bags that the boards are packed in, connect it to a 1 megohm resistor with a clip lead, and ground the far end of the 1 megohm resistor to the center screw on an AC receptacle cover plate (your wrist strap can ground to the same place). As has been said about the egg cartons, stay away from most plastic containers for sorting because plastics and foam stuff attracts a static charge. If you need to sort the hardware into the various sizes, use metal tins (Altoids tins?) or paper cups. If you are adept at spotting a screw size and length 'by eye', you can just dump all the hardware into a large box and pick the right ones from there. Those having long term experience with woodworking measurements or metalworking will have that ability. Make such judgements based on what you know about your abilities. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/3/2014 3:51 PM, John, 9H5G wrote: Gentlemen, Thank you for a fantastic list of hints and tips so far! As Gary, KI4GGX, pointed out I should have mentioned the options that I have coming. It's a K3/100 with a KRX3 and a handful of filters. Simple but very effective, I'm sure. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jso...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to garyk...@wi.rr.com -- 73, Gary K9GS Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com CW Ops #1032 http://www.cwops.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 Kit Wisdom
The kit is in the mail so I thought it would be a good time to fire off my first email to the group and exit from lurk mode with a question. I've read the K3 kit manual a few times now but I'm certain that there is a lot of wisdom out there to be garnered from the collective experience of the group so I'm asking if you would take the time to share please? 73 de John, KK4OYJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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You read the manual John so you are way ahead. Just take your time and go step by step. It might help to have some small tools handy to help with the fasteners. You will be fine and I can't begin to describe what a great feeling of accomplishment it is to push that power button at the end and have the rig come alive! 73 Charles N2SO. Sent from my android device. -Original Message- From: John, 9H5G kk4...@gmail.com To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, 03 May 2014 5:09 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Wisdom The kit is in the mail so I thought it would be a good time to fire off my first email to the group and exit from lurk mode with a question. I've read the K3 kit manual a few times now but I'm certain that there is a lot of wisdom out there to be garnered from the collective experience of the group so I'm asking if you would take the time to share please? 73 de John, KK4OYJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to charlestr...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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John, Yes, that is easy. Follow the instructions in the manual in the order written. If you are not adept at determining screw sizes and lengths by eye, measure them. That is all there is to it. Build the base K3 first, then the KAT3, then the KPA3, followed by the KRX3 and the KXV144 if you have those options. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/3/2014 6:07 AM, John, 9H5G wrote: The kit is in the mail so I thought it would be a good time to fire off my first email to the group and exit from lurk mode with a question. I've read the K3 kit manual a few times now but I'm certain that there is a lot of wisdom out there to be garnered from the collective experience of the group so I'm asking if you would take the time to share please? 73 de John, KK4OYJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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ORIGINAL MESSAGE: (may be snipped) On 5/3/2014 3:07 AM, John, 9H5G wrote: The kit is in the mail so I thought it would be a good time to fire off my first email to the group and exit from lurk mode with a question. I've read the K3 kit manual a few times now but I'm certain that there is a lot of wisdom out there to be garnered from the collective experience of the group so I'm asking if you would take the time to share please? 73 de John, KK4OYJ REPLY: The main thing I would suggest is if you are going to add any options, do it now rather than later. In my case, I added the digital voice recorder after the unit was built and that was a big mistake. I had to practically disassemble the whole thing to add it. OK, I'm exaggerating, but not that much. The other thing to be careful of is the sequence of assembly if you are adding the 100 watt amplifier. The instructions jump from the main manual to the amplifier manual and back again and I somehow got lost and as a result, skipped a few steps. I eventually figured it out but it was confusing. Pay very close attention to the sequence of steps. If I were writing the manual, I would have two manuals - one for the 10 watt unit and one for the 100 watt. Having to jump back and forth between two different manuals is not good. One last thing. If you are installing the 100 watt amplifier, you have to go into the setup menu and activate it before it will work. Otherwise it went well. The manuals are superb except for what I noted above. Have fun! 73, Bill W6WRT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Hi John, I believe you've made one of the better choices of your ham career. I'm certain you won't look back. Free advice: 1. Inventory all the parts in the kit, especially the screws, washers, nuts. Be prepared to measure screw lengths with a shop rule. 2. If something seems like it doesn't fit correctly, then you've done something wrong. The K3 fits together perfectly; if it doesn't feel right then you probably have the wrong hardware in place. 3. Observe and follow the ESD precautions given in the assembly manual. There really aren't that many things you can do wrong. Take your time and enjoy the build. I built one of the first kits in 2007 (#24). Even then, just the advice I gave above was enough. All the wrinkles have been ironed out since then. You're dealing with a mature kit product now. Operating the K3 is a learning experience, and if I were you I'd consult this list as needed. Elecraft's customer support is first class and they'll help get you past a bump in the road if needed. 73, matt W6NIA On Sat, 3 May 2014 06:07:40 -0400, you wrote: The kit is in the mail so I thought it would be a good time to fire off my first email to the group and exit from lurk mode with a question. I've read the K3 kit manual a few times now but I'm certain that there is a lot of wisdom out there to be garnered from the collective experience of the group so I'm asking if you would take the time to share please? 73 de John, KK4OYJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mzil...@roadrunner.com Matt Zilmer, W6NIA -- Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. -A. Lincoln __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Congratulations, John! If you have questions, just ask here; you should get answers from those in the know soon enough. Another resource I like is this searchable database of past posts to this reflector: http://marc.info/?l=elecraft There you can search by title, author or even based on the body of messages. And it goes back a long time and makes for some interesting reading. Have fun with your build. I'm sure you'll have the K3 up and running very soon. 73, Phil w7ox On 5/3/14, 3:07 AM, John, 9H5G wrote: The kit is in the mail so I thought it would be a good time to fire off my first email to the group and exit from lurk mode with a question. I've read the K3 kit manual a few times now but I'm certain that there is a lot of wisdom out there to be garnered from the collective experience of the group so I'm asking if you would take the time to share please? 73 de John, KK4OYJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Get a static protection mat and ground yourself - this will protect sensitive parts. Use an egg carton for separation of the hardware. Read each step twice, then proceed. Don't tighten anything until instructed to do so. Do each step in order - there is a reason for it. The process took me about fourteen hours - many take considerably less. It is merely an exercise in assembly - no soldering. Not like a Heath Kit, rather more like an Erector Set. After you scratch the operational surface of the rig, expect a steep learning curve - this is not a simple rig and is capable of meeting nearly everyone's operational desires and requirements. Bill K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Go to home depot (or wherever) and get a new #0 and #1 screwdriver for assembly. Last thing you want is a stripped out screw on your 2k dollar rig because of $5 screwdriver was too big/small. Frank KG6EYC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I agree with the comment below but I also recommend you buy quality screwdrivers -- the best you can find with hardened tips so that the blades on the philips head driver do not get screwed up which screws up and strips the screws while you are screwing in the screw [I never realized how funny and yet fun the word screw is]. 73, phil, K7PEH On May 3, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Frank Precissi vad...@gmail.com wrote: Go to home depot (or wherever) and get a new #0 and #1 screwdriver for assembly. Last thing you want is a stripped out screw on your 2k dollar rig because of $5 screwdriver was too big/small. Frank KG6EYC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to phys...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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A friend of mine mentioned that the screws used in Icom radios and such were some special type... He even bought some special screwdriver for them... Something about the heads being slightly different from normal Phillips head. Any one know if this is true? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 09:01 -0700, Phil Hystad wrote: I agree with the comment below but I also recommend you buy quality screwdrivers -- the best you can find with hardened tips so that the blades on the philips head driver do not get screwed up which screws up and strips the screws while you are screwing in the screw [I never realized how funny and yet fun the word screw is]. 73, phil, K7PEH On May 3, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Frank Precissi vad...@gmail.com wrote: Go to home depot (or wherever) and get a new #0 and #1 screwdriver for assembly. Last thing you want is a stripped out screw on your 2k dollar rig because of $5 screwdriver was too big/small. Frank KG6EYC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to phys...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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They may be a cross-point head instead of Phillips. Or possibly a JIS B 1012. Cross-point heads really need a matching screwdriver. As far as I know, you can use a cross-point screwdriver for Phillips, but not vice-versa. More detail here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screw_drives#Cross wunder K6WRU On May 3, 2014, at 9:37 AM, David Cole d...@nk7z.net wrote: A friend of mine mentioned that the screws used in Icom radios and such were some special type... He even bought some special screwdriver for them... Something about the heads being slightly different from normal Phillips head. Any one know if this is true? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 09:01 -0700, Phil Hystad wrote: I agree with the comment below but I also recommend you buy quality screwdrivers -- the best you can find with hardened tips so that the blades on the philips head driver do not get screwed up which screws up and strips the screws while you are screwing in the screw [I never realized how funny and yet fun the word screw is]. 73, phil, K7PEH On May 3, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Frank Precissi vad...@gmail.com wrote: Go to home depot (or wherever) and get a new #0 and #1 screwdriver for assembly. Last thing you want is a stripped out screw on your 2k dollar rig because of $5 screwdriver was too big/small. Frank KG6EYC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to phys...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org -- Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Yes, it's true. JPS (Japanese standard) is ever so slightly different from the American standard. 73, Tony K4QE On 5/3/2014 12:37, David Cole wrote: A friend of mine mentioned that the screws used in Icom radios and such were some special type... He even bought some special screwdriver for them... Something about the heads being slightly different from normal Phillips head. Any one know if this is true? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Oops...meant JIS... On 5/3/2014 12:56, Anthony Scandurra wrote: Yes, it's true. JPS (Japanese standard) is ever so slightly different from the American standard. 73, Tony K4QE On 5/3/2014 12:37, David Cole wrote: A friend of mine mentioned that the screws used in Icom radios and such were some special type... He even bought some special screwdriver for them... Something about the heads being slightly different from normal Phillips head. Any one know if this is true? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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ORIGINAL MESSAGE: (may be snipped) On 5/3/2014 9:01 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: I agree with the comment below but I also recommend you buy quality screwdrivers -- the best you can find with hardened tips so that the blades on the philips head driver do not get screwed up which screws up and strips the screws while you are screwing in the screw [I never realized how funny and yet fun the word screw is]. 73, phil, K7PEH REPLY: One of the best and longest lasting screwdrivers you can get is the little tips made for power drivers. They fit into a standard 1/4 inch nutdriver and will outlast any regular screwdriver made for use by hand. Because they are made for power drivers they are incredibly tough. As a bonus, get a 1/4 inch nutdriver that is magnetic and the tips become magnetic too. However, DO NOT be tempted to assemble your K3 with a power screwdriver. Hand tighten only! Good luck and have fun! 73, Bill W6WRT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Earlier today Bill (W2BLC) wrote . Use an egg carton for separation of the hardware. --- - - - --- WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! Proper ESD precautions dictate that plastic or foam shouldn't be anywhere near your ESD safe work area. Technically, not anywhere near means at least a foot away although I would suggest at least three, but preferable six feet away so that it's not within arm's reach. Therefore, DO NOT USE a plastic or a foam egg carton to sort/organize hardware! Only use a recycled paper egg cartoon, although I prefer a mini muffin tin for this purpose. In hindsight, a recycled paper egg carton might be better from an ESD perspective, although a paper carton might contain acids that can lead to corrosion over time. (Probably not a concern for someone who completes their K3 within 24 hours, but I had to set mine aside for a couple of months mid-build due to health reasons.) 73, Gary KI4GGX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Good point regarding the plastic foam egg cartons. I never even thought about them, as all I ever see are the old style paper ones. Must be from living in a cave! Bill K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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If you are going to use the power tips a lot as hand drivers, but the magnetic handle to hold them, not a regular nut driver. The difference is that the nut driver has a hardened tip and a recess for the bolt, but probably not magnetic. The handle has a longer 1/4 inch recess, the magnet and no recess for the bolt which you do not need. You can use the nut driver in a pinch, but the handle is better and they come in different lengths so you can reach things, not so important for a K3, but very important for airplanes. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart On Saturday, May 3, 2014 1:16 PM, Bill W2BLC w2...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Good point regarding the plastic foam egg cartons. I never even thought about them, as all I ever see are the old style paper ones. Must be from living in a cave! Bill K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wrco...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Gentlemen, Thank you for a fantastic list of hints and tips so far! As Gary, KI4GGX, pointed out I should have mentioned the options that I have coming. It's a K3/100 with a KRX3 and a handful of filters. Simple but very effective, I'm sure. Keep them coming please- I have a week more to fill while the UPS man pedals his way across the country :) 73 de John, KK4OYJ On 3 May 2014, at 14:36, WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: If you are going to use the power tips a lot as hand drivers, but the magnetic handle to hold them, not a regular nut driver. The difference is that the nut driver has a hardened tip and a recess for the bolt, but probably not magnetic. The handle has a longer 1/4 inch recess, the magnet and no recess for the bolt which you do not need. You can use the nut driver in a pinch, but the handle is better and they come in different lengths so you can reach things, not so important for a K3, but very important for airplanes. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart On Saturday, May 3, 2014 1:16 PM, Bill W2BLC w2...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Good point regarding the plastic foam egg cartons. I never even thought about them, as all I ever see are the old style paper ones. Must be from living in a cave! Bill K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wrco...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kk4...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Helping others is one of the main purposes of this list. If we could get the UPS guy to move faster, I'm sure we would. 73 matt, W6NIA On Sat, 3 May 2014 15:51:19 -0400, you wrote: Gentlemen, Thank you for a fantastic list of hints and tips so far! As Gary, KI4GGX, pointed out I should have mentioned the options that I have coming. It's a K3/100 with a KRX3 and a handful of filters. Simple but very effective, I'm sure. Keep them coming please- I have a week more to fill while the UPS man pedals his way across the country :) 73 de John, KK4OYJ On 3 May 2014, at 14:36, WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: If you are going to use the power tips a lot as hand drivers, but the magnetic handle to hold them, not a regular nut driver. The difference is that the nut driver has a hardened tip and a recess for the bolt, but probably not magnetic. The handle has a longer 1/4 inch recess, the magnet and no recess for the bolt which you do not need. You can use the nut driver in a pinch, but the handle is better and they come in different lengths so you can reach things, not so important for a K3, but very important for airplanes. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart On Saturday, May 3, 2014 1:16 PM, Bill W2BLC w2...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Good point regarding the plastic foam egg cartons. I never even thought about them, as all I ever see are the old style paper ones. Must be from living in a cave! Bill K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wrco...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kk4...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mzil...@roadrunner.com Matt Zilmer, W6NIA -- Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening the axe. -A. Lincoln __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On 5/3/2014 2:15 PM, Bill W2BLC wrote: as all I ever see are the old style paper ones. Must be from living in a cave! -- Maybe, but even a cave man can do it ! _ Anonymous ___ . __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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John - One other small step for K3 assemblers that I felt should be done earlier is on page 58 of the K3 assembly manual KNB3 installation procedure My note to myself was the standoff for the noise blanker should be done BEFORE the KPA3 shield step or even earlier - it was a dog for me to get that standoff mounted after the KPA3 shield was in place. 73 Hank K7HP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Sat May 3 19:24:08 EDT 2014 Hank K7HP writes ... John - One other small step for K3 assemblers that I felt should be done earlier is on page 58 of the K3 assembly manual KNB3 installation procedure My note to myself was the standoff for the noise blanker should be done BEFORE the KPA3 shield step or even earlier - it was a dog for me to get that standoff mounted after the KPA3 shield was in place. --- - - - --- I thought so at first as well but after studying the situation, realized that it had to be done in the order specified. (I don't recall why.) 73, Gary KI4GGX K3 #2724 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I had to remove that standoff to get the shield out (and back in) so I could cut a notch in the shield for the two meter antenna cable From: Gary W. Hvizdak gary.hviz...@cfl.rr.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; kk4...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, May 3, 2014 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Wisdom Sat May 3 19:24:08 EDT 2014 Hank K7HP writes ... John - One other small step for K3 assemblers that I felt should be done earlier is on page 58 of the K3 assembly manual KNB3 installation procedure My note to myself was the standoff for the noise blanker should be done BEFORE the KPA3 shield step or even earlier - it was a dog for me to get that standoff mounted after the KPA3 shield was in place. --- - - - --- I thought so at first as well but after studying the situation, realized that it had to be done in the order specified. (I don't recall why.) 73, Gary KI4GGX K3 #2724 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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John, As for the advice about screwdrivers, yes, get yourself a quality, new #1 phillips. I like the ones from Ace Hardware with the blue handles (Pro Series), and I like the 8 inch length, just because I learned to use that length many, many years ago - pick whatever length you are comfortable with,but do buy a quality screwdriver from a reputable supplier - a bargain bin screwdriver tip is usually not cut with adequate precision. If you can see shiny spots on the corners of the tip, it is not adequate for the task, it will slip and strip your screwheads. My method of judging a phillips tip driver is if it does not hold a 3/16 inch phillips head screw when it is held horizontally, it is time for that screwdriver to be replaced. I take issue with the suggestion to use magnetic holders and the insert bits. I prefer not to have any magnetic tools at my electronics workbench, they attract stray bits of cutoff component leads and other things stick to the tools. YMMV on that one - take your pick. I use several magnetic holders to great benefit in the woodworking shop, but never at the electronics workbench. As for anti-static, yes take measures - a wrist strap is a minimum, if you have an anti-static mat at the workbench, work on that surface, especially when handling unmounted boards. Do NOT work on a completely conducting surface such as a bare metal desktop or cookie sheet, or aluminum foil or whatever - fully conductive surfaces can also create static damage when they contact that fully conductive surface and are a safety hazard if there are live power sources anywhere near. Newspapers misted with a spray of water in addition to the wrist strap can be more effective than a fully conducting surface. If you have no other alternative, cut open one of the black anti-static bags that the boards are packed in, connect it to a 1 megohm resistor with a clip lead, and ground the far end of the 1 megohm resistor to the center screw on an AC receptacle cover plate (your wrist strap can ground to the same place). As has been said about the egg cartons, stay away from most plastic containers for sorting because plastics and foam stuff attracts a static charge. If you need to sort the hardware into the various sizes, use metal tins (Altoids tins?) or paper cups. If you are adept at spotting a screw size and length 'by eye', you can just dump all the hardware into a large box and pick the right ones from there. Those having long term experience with woodworking measurements or metalworking will have that ability. Make such judgements based on what you know about your abilities. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/3/2014 3:51 PM, John, 9H5G wrote: Gentlemen, Thank you for a fantastic list of hints and tips so far! As Gary, KI4GGX, pointed out I should have mentioned the options that I have coming. It's a K3/100 with a KRX3 and a handful of filters. Simple but very effective, I'm sure. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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There should be no need to cut any notch in the KPA3 shield for the 2 meter antenna cable if the K144XV instructions are followed. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/3/2014 8:20 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: I had to remove that standoff to get the shield out (and back in) so I could cut a notch in the shield for the two meter antenna cable __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Old Heathkit trick. :) -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 14:15 -0400, Bill W2BLC wrote: Good point regarding the plastic foam egg cartons. I never even thought about them, as all I ever see are the old style paper ones. Must be from living in a cave! Bill K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Wisdom
You are 100% correct That is why you should not install modules after a very long week Thank you From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, May 3, 2014 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Wisdom There should be no need to cut any notch in the KPA3 shield for the 2 meter antenna cable if the K144XV instructions are followed. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/3/2014 8:20 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: I had to remove that standoff to get the shield out (and back in) so I could cut a notch in the shield for the two meter antenna cable __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 kit complete
I should have mentioned that the kit I completed is a K3. I’m still working on configuring it. I’m currently getting an error on power up (KAT3). I have an email into support. Carl Yaffey K8NU Banjo, guitar, bass, mandolin, dobro. recording studio. cyaffeyno_s...@gmail.com 614 268 6353, Columbus OH http://www.carl-yaffey.com http://www.grassahol.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Kit Complete
Just completed the final checks on my K3 kit and I have to say the putting this rig together was both an educational and very rewarding experience. I highly recommend to anyone thinking about purchasing a K3 to consider getting the kit. The precision that goes into its manufacture along with the very detailed assembly manuals makes it easy to complete. The next kit in line for the ESD assembly mat is the P3 Kit and that will surely be followed by the amp and external tuner at some point. Thanks Elecraft for some exceptional products and great support. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Kit Assembly Manual error
I searched the archive and didn't see this listed. I don't have a K3, but am interested in the radio so was looking at the assembly steps. Page 22 of the K3 Kit Assembly Manual. Note on the left side of Figure 24. Sentence reads Also, on some boards C6 and C6 may not be present. What should it read? Dennis NJ6G __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Assembly Manual error
It should read C6 and C5 may not be present. The note was added to reassure builders that some design changes to the KANT3 board left those spaces empty on purpose. Good eyes Dennis. That typo has gone unreported for three years. 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Moore Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:18 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Assembly Manual error I searched the archive and didn't see this listed. I don't have a K3, but am interested in the radio so was looking at the assembly steps. Page 22 of the K3 Kit Assembly Manual. Note on the left side of Figure 24. Sentence reads Also, on some boards C6 and C6 may not be present. What should it read? Dennis NJ6G __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Kit Assembly Manual error
Hey Dennis: There is a job waiting for you over at Flex, bud! ;) -lu-w4lt- K3 # 3192/P3 # 1301 -- Message: 33 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:17:35 -0700 From: Dennis Moore den...@mail4life.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Assembly Manual error To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 4e4a0b7f.30...@mail4life.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I searched the archive and didn't see this listed. I don't have a K3, but am interested in the radio so was looking at the assembly steps. Page 22 of the K3 Kit Assembly Manual. Note on the left side of Figure 24. Sentence reads Also, on some boards C6 and C6 may not be present. What should it read? Dennis NJ6G __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: Kit Resistance Value Question
I am building a new K3 kit and doing resistance checks, the book states the resistance value on U12 to ground should be more than 500 ohms, mine checks 349 ohms, is this a problem? U13 to ground is 378 ohms, books states should be greater than 125 ohms, so OK. Joe N9VX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Kit Resistance Value Question
Just heard back from tech support (thought they were closed for the day), the value is OK. Joe N9VX On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Joe Word joe.n...@gmail.com wrote: I am building a new K3 kit and doing resistance checks, the book states the resistance value on U12 to ground should be more than 500 ohms, mine checks 349 ohms, is this a problem? U13 to ground is 378 ohms, books states should be greater than 125 ohms, so OK. Joe N9VX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit #4043 QRV
Edward R. Cole wrote: I could not find the configuration where one enables/disables mic bias (using Heil HM-10 mic), but adjusting mic gain and compression I finally saw some RF output (TUNE button worked right off). Page 20 of the latest manual under MIC. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Kit-4043-QRV-tp4775608p5518652.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Kit Hardware Organizer
After looking at all those different pieces and sizes of hardware, I went to my local pharmacy and bought a plastic 4-week pill organizer. I placed some low-tack painter's tape (the blue stuff) over the lids and labeled each compartment with its contents. The advantage of this was having the lids -- if anyone (such as myself!) were to knock the sorter off the bench, nothing would spill. It worked great -- much better than the muffin pans or paper cups I've used in the past for hardware. 73, Jeff, K6JW K3 #3398 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Hardware Organizer
For me, raiding the kitchen and borrowing all the metal cupcake baking trays I could find worked great. Heavy enough to not worry about knocking over, big enough to get my fingers in to and metal so no worries about static. Rick K6LE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit #4043 QRV
Ed, The more you use it, the better it gets. I'm curious about your final amp. What/where? The mic bias info in on p52 of the manual in the Main menu functions section, Mic Sel. I found that downloading the pdf of the user manual and searching in that was usually faster than trying to find stuff in the printed manual. 73, Mike NF4L Edward Cole wrote: I received my kit from Elecraft by UPS on Thursday, March 11 (took one week delivery which is normal for UPS-ground to AK). I waited until Monday to begin assembly so that an anti-static matt could be delivered. I finished on Thursday evening with approx. 11-hours of actual time spent. I took my time and read instructions fully before performing each step. Excellent instructions (and I used to be a tech writer for Hughes Aircraft so have some experience, here). A step up from Heath kits in my opinion! I was very impressed how precisely the hardware alignment was made; no holes needed re-drilling or tweaking of panels to get things to fit. Even the front panel went together pretty nicely considering the multiple connectors. Problems? The aux Rx was dead (no audio) at first then I realized that I had not calibrated the second synth. I had a PL2 Error which cleared when the second synth. was calib. Pretty complicated configuration process, which was helped by the sw once I got the USB/RS-232 cable drivers installed (that was a battle for short time on the Dell laptop -Vista). Not clear start-up procedure: start sw, connect USB, power on radio (that last step allowed the sw to find the com-port assignment). I could not find the configuration where one enables/disables mic bias (using Heil HM-10 mic), but adjusting mic gain and compression I finally saw some RF output (TUNE button worked right off). I calibrated the Tx power to be a max of 16w out 80-15m, 8w on 10-6m. Using Bird-43 100H element probably not too accurate at low levels. I set mic=30, comp=15 and ALC peaks 5; good on air report on 80m net running only 12w! I have not set either Rx or Tx equalizers, yet. Speaker audio is a bit harsh sounding but I will use an old National Speaker, eventually. Headphones sounded good. My K3/10 came with the KXV3, KBPF3 and KRX3, 13, 2.8, and 400-Hz on the main board and 13, 2.8-KHz filters in the aux Rx. My main use will be on 144-eme and 1296-eme using transverters. I installed the KTCXO3-1 for frequency accuracy at microwaves. The dual Rx will permit using two 2m transverters for dual-polarity diversity reception with a sw program looking at a 13-KHz bandpass on USB (thus the two 13-KHz filters). It will take till summer to get this fully installed and functional. I am also using the K3 on 500-KHz (WD2XSH/45) to drive a surplus 100w NDB xmtr (non-directional aircraft beacon). The NDB was xtal controlled so I inserted drive at -6 dBm to move the unit to 495-510 KHz. The NDB is basically a linear amplifier with 46-dB gain. The -3 dBm K3 output at the XVT Tx output will easily drive the NDB. And, of course the K3 will be used on HF and 6m. I didn't chose the KPA-3 but instead am building a 300w amplifier kit that cost me about $150. It runs on 28-vdc using two MRF-422 xsistors. I am curious to try psk-31 on 14.070 with 12w (should be fine with my 3-element beam). CW memory scripts will be handy for running CW beacons on 500-KHz. I purchased an ARR P50VDG preamp (again with a savings over Elecraft model). It hasn't arrived so haven't tried 6m, yet. So, with two days of use yeah! Especially liked tuning out QRM with the DSP filters. The 400-KHz filter is great on CW! 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com 500-KHz/CW, 144-MHz EME, 1296-MHz EME DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit #4076 Arrived Safely
I ordered my K3 yesterday and have been going through the build manual this weekend. I also for some reason thought there was something you had to solder, but sure enough it does look completely like a insert-tab-a-into-slot-b kit. Even the speaker leads appear to already be soldered and prepared. I'm glad I won't have to manufacture connectors tho as I ruin those just about 100% of the time as is evident on the plugs on my K2 hi hi. And should be a refreshing change not to have to adjust overly sensitive caps etc.. Still I ordered the 25w dummy load just to give me something to solder hi hi (and do wattmeter calibrations on the K3 and still need to do on the tuner I just finished for my K2). But if the kit is anything like the K2 as far as preperation, thoroughness of instructions, etc., it ought to be a breeze and it should work first time. Armed only with my 6th grade education, my K2 worked first time out and have had no problems since. 73, LS W5QD (looking forward to getting on the data modes) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Kit-4076-Arrived-Safely-tp4764166p4773096.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit #4076 Arrived Safely
Well, you DO get to solder one thing, the Anderson Power Pole ends to the power cord, hi. It is VERY well documented and a pleasure to build. 73, Don, WB5HAK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Kit #4043 QRV
I received my kit from Elecraft by UPS on Thursday, March 11 (took one week delivery which is normal for UPS-ground to AK). I waited until Monday to begin assembly so that an anti-static matt could be delivered. I finished on Thursday evening with approx. 11-hours of actual time spent. I took my time and read instructions fully before performing each step. Excellent instructions (and I used to be a tech writer for Hughes Aircraft so have some experience, here). A step up from Heath kits in my opinion! I was very impressed how precisely the hardware alignment was made; no holes needed re-drilling or tweaking of panels to get things to fit. Even the front panel went together pretty nicely considering the multiple connectors. Problems? The aux Rx was dead (no audio) at first then I realized that I had not calibrated the second synth. I had a PL2 Error which cleared when the second synth. was calib. Pretty complicated configuration process, which was helped by the sw once I got the USB/RS-232 cable drivers installed (that was a battle for short time on the Dell laptop -Vista). Not clear start-up procedure: start sw, connect USB, power on radio (that last step allowed the sw to find the com-port assignment). I could not find the configuration where one enables/disables mic bias (using Heil HM-10 mic), but adjusting mic gain and compression I finally saw some RF output (TUNE button worked right off). I calibrated the Tx power to be a max of 16w out 80-15m, 8w on 10-6m. Using Bird-43 100H element probably not too accurate at low levels. I set mic=30, comp=15 and ALC peaks 5; good on air report on 80m net running only 12w! I have not set either Rx or Tx equalizers, yet. Speaker audio is a bit harsh sounding but I will use an old National Speaker, eventually. Headphones sounded good. My K3/10 came with the KXV3, KBPF3 and KRX3, 13, 2.8, and 400-Hz on the main board and 13, 2.8-KHz filters in the aux Rx. My main use will be on 144-eme and 1296-eme using transverters. I installed the KTCXO3-1 for frequency accuracy at microwaves. The dual Rx will permit using two 2m transverters for dual-polarity diversity reception with a sw program looking at a 13-KHz bandpass on USB (thus the two 13-KHz filters). It will take till summer to get this fully installed and functional. I am also using the K3 on 500-KHz (WD2XSH/45) to drive a surplus 100w NDB xmtr (non-directional aircraft beacon). The NDB was xtal controlled so I inserted drive at -6 dBm to move the unit to 495-510 KHz. The NDB is basically a linear amplifier with 46-dB gain. The -3 dBm K3 output at the XVT Tx output will easily drive the NDB. And, of course the K3 will be used on HF and 6m. I didn't chose the KPA-3 but instead am building a 300w amplifier kit that cost me about $150. It runs on 28-vdc using two MRF-422 xsistors. I am curious to try psk-31 on 14.070 with 12w (should be fine with my 3-element beam). CW memory scripts will be handy for running CW beacons on 500-KHz. I purchased an ARR P50VDG preamp (again with a savings over Elecraft model). It hasn't arrived so haven't tried 6m, yet. So, with two days of use yeah! Especially liked tuning out QRM with the DSP filters. The 400-KHz filter is great on CW! 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com 500-KHz/CW, 144-MHz EME, 1296-MHz EME DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit #4076 Arrived Safely
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:10:30 -0400, w...@w5ov.com wrote: [snip] You get to do that if you order any of the small test kits. They are great. Being a long-time Heathkit guy myself, I think you may find your self wondering when do I get to solder something. [snip] 73, Tom, N5GE K3 #806 with SUB RX, PR6, KRC2 and K144XV K3 #1055 with PR6 and XV432 W1, 2 W2's and other small kits http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit #4076 Arrived Safely
You get to solder something when you install the K144XV... You shimmy a single pin connector into a tight spot and then go zip tack ok thats in Guess I get to pack up and put the soldering iron away again :) I wasn't about to bring the soldering iron out of its storage bin for one solder joint so I took this opportunity to finish a project I've been wanting to do... I made a headphone switch. Bought a rotary switch, a few stereo female headphone jacks and a project box from radio shack. Now I can switch my paddles between my K1,K3,and K1EL keyer with the turn of a knob. I can also switch it to 3 yet unused ports... The only knob they had was a double pole 6 throw switch. So I had to take advantage of all the throws when I built the box. Funny thing was once I was done with that project I came up with another idea. I figured I should have a way to switch more fun things with my K3. I want to be able to switch my LP-Pan, LP-100A and my P3 (once its shipping) all with the power switch on the K3. So anyway I made up another project box with a single RCA input from the K3 that then switches a relay to turn on 4 more RCA ports on the top. I even put a 1.25uH inductor to 1000uF of cap on the input side and then put 1.5uH to a .1uF cap LC filter to each of the 4 ports. Cause any project worth doing is worth over doing! ;) I figured that if there was any switching noise or anything in any of the devices I turned on and off with the radio that the additional RF filtering on the power would keep my LP-Pan and P3 displays as noise free as possible. I think I may end up slapping together a quick opto-coupler into a cable as I bought a DB-15HD connector and a DB9 so I could make an FSK cable. I've never done RTTY that way and I think it could be a fun one. After that is all done I'll probably have melted a sufficient amount of solder to have justified bringing the iron out of its bin. ;) ~Brett On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 15:10 -0400, w...@w5ov.com wrote: Don, If you start on it tonight, you'll be on the air with it tomorrow afternoon. I did about 3 hours on a Friday night with mine and I got up early on Saturday and had it completed in time for a late lunch. Being a long-time Heathkit guy myself, I think you may find your self wondering when do I get to solder something. 73, Bob W5OV My new K3, #4076, arrived this morning and is inventoried. I was pleasantly surprised, it has the new firmware just announced already installed!!! Everything looks to be of exceptionally high quality, and I am overjoyed at the prospect of a kit build after all these years. My last large endeavor was a Heathkit SB303/401 pair with accessories in 1972, so that's a long dry spell, hi. Wish me luck and hope to have it on the air in a few days!!! 73, Don, WB5HAK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit #4076 Arrived Safely
I just got a comment and so I thought I'd add... Yes I did put in a fuse on the outputs of the K3 switched power box... ~Brett (KC7OTG) On Sat, 2010-03-20 at 02:46 -0700, Brett Howard wrote: You get to solder something when you install the K144XV... You shimmy a single pin connector into a tight spot and then go zip tack ok thats in Guess I get to pack up and put the soldering iron away again :) I wasn't about to bring the soldering iron out of its storage bin for one solder joint so I took this opportunity to finish a project I've been wanting to do... I made a headphone switch. Bought a rotary switch, a few stereo female headphone jacks and a project box from radio shack. Now I can switch my paddles between my K1,K3,and K1EL keyer with the turn of a knob. I can also switch it to 3 yet unused ports... The only knob they had was a double pole 6 throw switch. So I had to take advantage of all the throws when I built the box. Funny thing was once I was done with that project I came up with another idea. I figured I should have a way to switch more fun things with my K3. I want to be able to switch my LP-Pan, LP-100A and my P3 (once its shipping) all with the power switch on the K3. So anyway I made up another project box with a single RCA input from the K3 that then switches a relay to turn on 4 more RCA ports on the top. I even put a 1.25uH inductor to 1000uF of cap on the input side and then put 1.5uH to a .1uF cap LC filter to each of the 4 ports. Cause any project worth doing is worth over doing! ;) I figured that if there was any switching noise or anything in any of the devices I turned on and off with the radio that the additional RF filtering on the power would keep my LP-Pan and P3 displays as noise free as possible. I think I may end up slapping together a quick opto-coupler into a cable as I bought a DB-15HD connector and a DB9 so I could make an FSK cable. I've never done RTTY that way and I think it could be a fun one. After that is all done I'll probably have melted a sufficient amount of solder to have justified bringing the iron out of its bin. ;) ~Brett On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 15:10 -0400, w...@w5ov.com wrote: Don, If you start on it tonight, you'll be on the air with it tomorrow afternoon. I did about 3 hours on a Friday night with mine and I got up early on Saturday and had it completed in time for a late lunch. Being a long-time Heathkit guy myself, I think you may find your self wondering when do I get to solder something. 73, Bob W5OV My new K3, #4076, arrived this morning and is inventoried. I was pleasantly surprised, it has the new firmware just announced already installed!!! Everything looks to be of exceptionally high quality, and I am overjoyed at the prospect of a kit build after all these years. My last large endeavor was a Heathkit SB303/401 pair with accessories in 1972, so that's a long dry spell, hi. Wish me luck and hope to have it on the air in a few days!!! 73, Don, WB5HAK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Kit #4076 Arrived Safely
My new K3, #4076, arrived this morning and is inventoried. I was pleasantly surprised, it has the new firmware just announced already installed!!! Everything looks to be of exceptionally high quality, and I am overjoyed at the prospect of a kit build after all these years. My last large endeavor was a Heathkit SB303/401 pair with accessories in 1972, so that's a long dry spell, hi. Wish me luck and hope to have it on the air in a few days!!! 73, Don, WB5HAK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit #4076 Arrived Safely
Don, If you start on it tonight, you'll be on the air with it tomorrow afternoon. I did about 3 hours on a Friday night with mine and I got up early on Saturday and had it completed in time for a late lunch. Being a long-time Heathkit guy myself, I think you may find your self wondering when do I get to solder something. 73, Bob W5OV My new K3, #4076, arrived this morning and is inventoried. I was pleasantly surprised, it has the new firmware just announced already installed!!! Everything looks to be of exceptionally high quality, and I am overjoyed at the prospect of a kit build after all these years. My last large endeavor was a Heathkit SB303/401 pair with accessories in 1972, so that's a long dry spell, hi. Wish me luck and hope to have it on the air in a few days!!! 73, Don, WB5HAK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 kit or factory assembled
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:31:17 -0800 (PST) Mike K2MK k...@comcast.net wrote: A resource for those who are undecided as to whether to build their K3 or have it factory assembled would be a viewing of N5NA's 7 minute YouTube video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfUMZcwtIyw It's a masterpiece of time lapse photography. And very enjoyable as well. 73, Mike K2MK -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-kit-or-factory-assembled-tp4294583p4294583.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Dear Mike, With our K3 (S/N 2406) my choice was to buy (assembled) was because unlike earlier years (40yrs) I had infinite patience, but with the on-slaught of aging all that patience seemed to fly out the proverbial-window!!! The guys at (Aptos then-2009) did a superb job of getting everything right within the radio and have been ENJOYING it ever since! KUDOS TO THE CREW @ ELECRAFT!!! Warmest Regards from a BELIEVER!!! Jim/nn6ee __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 kit or factory assembled
A resource for those who are undecided as to whether to build their K3 or have it factory assembled would be a viewing of N5NA's 7 minute YouTube video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfUMZcwtIyw It's a masterpiece of time lapse photography. And very enjoyable as well. 73, Mike K2MK -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-kit-or-factory-assembled-tp4294583p4294583.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit or Factory Built
When I started in this Hobby in 1975, I built a HW16/HG10 rig as my first real novice station. That grew over the next several years to a HR10/DX60, then a HW101, then the entire SB-Line (and then I discovered Kenwood: a TS820 at a contest, and all the Green was gone virtually overnight). I have never had much time to homebrew things, so kit building was as close as I could come. I did miss the thrill of getting a box of parts and crafting a radio from them... And Heathkit had been gone for a long time... The K2 didnt turn me on enough to make me get rid of my trusty TS850, however. The K3 did. My #3192 was a kit. Took me three days, but I took pictures of *EVERYTHING* for a presentation to the Florida Contest Group. If you want to see what it took, send me an email direct and I will send you the PowerPoint with the evolution from a shipping box to a finished radio. There is nothing like the feeling you get when you hit the power button for the first time and the thing lights up and you hear signals from the speaker. The beauty of the whole experience is that the K3 is a real Competition Quality High Performance radio that came as a bunch of parts. Yes you learn lots about the insides and yes, its helpful when servicing time comes along, but I do this for a living, so its no biggie to me to open up the rig for servicing. The biggest thrill for me is watching it come alive, and the second best thrill is using it on the bench to make a QSO with a LY7 right after you finish the calibration/configuration routines! #3192 continues my (knock on wood) tradition of having all the rigs I have assembled, all the way back to that very first HW17, work at first statup, which is better than I can say for most of the computers I have assembled from parts. -lu-W4LT- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:20:32 +0100 From: Bob DeHaney bobdeha...@gmx.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Kit or Factory Built To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 001101ca8261$e74fdd90$b5ef98...@net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii I did the kit. From the practical side, it's nice to know how it goes together if you have to add something like the 2 Meters expansion, or add a filter, or do a mod, or send a module back to Elecraft. From the fun side it's nice to see all the bits disappearing and a K3 growing on the dining table. You do risk certain looks and comments from the lady of the house if you aren't moving along ;-) Vy 73, Bob DJ0MBC/WU5T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] kit building or buy ready for use
Volker, It only makes sense to buy factory built if you buy the K3 with all the possible modules fitted otherwise you will be dis-assembling the radio to fit other modules at some later date. A design philosophy of the K3 is being able to buy the basic unit and upgrade as you can afford it or as the dollar/euro/sterling rate becomes more favourable! Field upgrading is just an extension of the kit rationale. I bought #145 as a kit back in July 2007 and had to wait many months for the second receiver which required a significant refit. Being an early unit I have fitted several uprades and have had to replace a faulty main dsp board too; knowing how it all went together in the first place made all this straightforward and easy to do. So if you have the time and don't have visual or physical impairment it's not a problem at all. There's the extra security of knowing that the finished unit has been tested in Aptos but even if/when a problem does arise you will be talked through it step by step and receive board swaps as necessary in a manner probably unique to Elecraft. My DSP board problem was a minor one linked to the second rx and was sorted quickly and efficiently but it did require me to swap out a couple of boards which were sent from Aptos. We are after all 'Radio Amateurs' so we shouldn't really have a problem with screwdrivers and ESD mats, should we?? 73, Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF quot;Volker Wächterquot; wrote: Hello @ all, I do not know what most of you did. As many others, I am also interested in a K3 Trx. what do you recommend ? do-it yourself an purchase a kit, or buy it ready for use ? as far as I know, elecreft points out that a complete ESD equipment is strictly recommended. what did you do ? 73 de Volker, DD1VW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/kit-building-or-buy-ready-for-use-tp4195967p4197200.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] kit building or buy ready for use
I'd recommend the kit too, for the reasons others have stated. The cost of the electrostatic mat, I seem to recall, was about 20 Euro. The only test equipment you need is a DMM, an accurate power meter and (optionally but very useful) a calibrated signal generator for doing the S meter calibration. The DMM I used was about 10 Euro, and perfectly adequate for this application. For the power calibration I used the Elecraft DL1. Though only rated for 20W it is perfectly capable of taking 50W for a couple of seconds at a time - long enough to get the voltage reading from which you can calculate the power. This is probably more accurate than the average ham-grade power meter. For the receiver alignment I used the Elecraft XG1. This has now been replaced by the XG2 which covers 3 bands and is a bit more expensive. Even if you have to buy all 3 items of test equipment plus the anti-static mat the cost will still be about half the money you saved buying the kit version. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/kit-building-or-buy-ready-for-use-tp4195967p4197216.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] kit building or buy ready for use
Hi Volker, buy the kit - it is absolutely no problem to build it, you should of course use an ESD equipment but it's worth to buy one. Write me a PN and we can discuss it in german. I built two K3s, it was a lot of fun and they work 100%. Martin DK4XL K3 #2199 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/kit-building-or-buy-ready-for-use-tp4195967p4197220.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] kit building or buy ready for use
Phil Hystad wrote: I am also planning on getting the K3 and there is only one thing that is holding up my order right now and that is trying to figure out when I can spend the time to put it together. But, I am also a little bit wondering if the cost differential of kit versus factory built is worth the learning experience when you contrast that with the hassles of potential problems. 1. You've already spent more time reading and writing emails on this list than the K3 takes to assemble. 2. Some are using $200 for the cost differential. For the record it's: K3/100 - $250 KAT3 - $30 KRX3 - $50 I've built 3 units with few problems and Elecraft support is absolutely phenomenal if you do have problems. Building your own unit will give you confidence to make inevitable update mods. I've made 10 to #1361 and 7 to #2183 so both units are completely updated except for the much-discussed DSP exchange (which I'm still undecided on). 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/kit-building-or-buy-ready-for-use-tp4195967p4199313.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] kit building or buy ready for use
Phil, Building the K3 will likely make future hardware changes easier to implement since you will have recognized key circuit board areas and have an understanding of the assembly/disassembly process. Getting in and back out of the K3 is very easy. By contrast, the disassembly of my previously-owned IC-7800 required removal of over a half-dozen different screw types with varying lengths. That created a nightmare situation if one of those screws was installed incorrectly. Paul, W9AC I am also planning on getting the K3 and there is only one thing that is holding up my order right now and that is trying to figure out when I can spend the time to put it together. But, I am also a little bit wondering if the cost differential of kit versus factory built is worth the learning experience when you contrast that with the hassles of potential problems. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] kit building or buy ready for use
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:45:11 -0800 (PST), Bill W4ZV btipp...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Bill is correct about building your own. Both of my K3's are factory built #806 and #1055. #1055 was a trade with a guy who wanted my Orion II. If I ever BUY another one I'll build it for the reasons Bill gave. 73, Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806 with SUB RX, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1, 2 W2's and other small kits 1 K144XV on order http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net Phil Hystad wrote: I am also planning on getting the K3 and there is only one thing that is holding up my order right now and that is trying to figure out when I can spend the time to put it together. But, I am also a little bit wondering if the cost differential of kit versus factory built is worth the learning experience when you contrast that with the hassles of potential problems. 1. You've already spent more time reading and writing emails on this list than the K3 takes to assemble. 2. Some are using $200 for the cost differential. For the record it's: K3/100 - $250 KAT3 - $30 KRX3 - $50 I've built 3 units with few problems and Elecraft support is absolutely phenomenal if you do have problems. Building your own unit will give you confidence to make inevitable update mods. I've made 10 to #1361 and 7 to #2183 so both units are completely updated except for the much-discussed DSP exchange (which I'm still undecided on). 73, Bill __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Kit or Factory Built
I did the kit. From the practical side, it's nice to know how it goes together if you have to add something like the 2 Meters expansion, or add a filter, or do a mod, or send a module back to Elecraft. From the fun side it's nice to see all the bits disappearing and a K3 growing on the dining table. You do risk certain looks and comments from the lady of the house if you aren't moving along ;-) Vy 73, Bob DJ0MBC/WU5T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit or Factory Built
I would encourage going the kit route if a person has any ability at all. Its very simple to build following instructions, and took me about 6 hours. I was pleased with the fit of parts and panels and how fast the radio went together. And as many have said it makes upgrading or changing boards a lot more friendly if you have seen the insides apart before. For my 200 bucks I added a CW filter and transverter card. Factory built is a real good deal for guys who dont have time or ability, so both sides come out on top. Performance is the same either way. Merv KH7C __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] kit building or buy ready for use
Lots of people have responded to my question and I feel that it is not really necessary to drag this out. I was sort of looking to see if there were more people who had problems after building the K3 but due to flaws in individual component boards due to the fact that an integrated K3 could not be tested prior to shipment as a kit. This kind of problem was raised by two earlier posts (I think around Friday and Saturday) and that is what prompted my question. But, no one came back and mentioned problems like that so I suspect that it is not an issue and these other posts were rare events. Yes, I am 99.9% sure I will buy a kit and not the factory built K3. But, I was always 99.9% sure of ordering the kit version. phil On Dec 21, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Paul Christensen wrote: Phil, Building the K3 will likely make future hardware changes easier to implement since you will have recognized key circuit board areas and have an understanding of the assembly/disassembly process. Getting in and back out of the K3 is very easy. By contrast, the disassembly of my previously-owned IC-7800 required removal of over a half-dozen different screw types with varying lengths. That created a nightmare situation if one of those screws was installed incorrectly. Paul, W9AC I am also planning on getting the K3 and there is only one thing that is holding up my order right now and that is trying to figure out when I can spend the time to put it together. But, I am also a little bit wondering if the cost differential of kit versus factory built is worth the learning experience when you contrast that with the hassles of potential problems. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] kit building or buy ready for use
I always enjoyed building kits and was looking forward to building a K3. But my plans were altered by health issues and I had to go factory built. And I found out 3 weeks ago when I tried to install the DVR option that it was a god move. Had real trouble just opening the radio up with 1 1/2 hands. A mini stroke took away partial use of one hand. I buttoned the radio back up. Now if I could only get my health insurance to cover the cost, I'd ship it out to have it done I hope no more hardware mods come out that I would need, but... that's progress. Happy Holidays to all. de K2GN/Larry K3 - S/N 3278 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Kit (mag screwdriver)
Another trick that I've used instead of having magnetic screw drivers is to buy a puck of Surf board wax. Keep that in your tool box. Just push the tip of your screw driver into the wax puck then pick up the screw. One puck should last you about 15 years! At $1.50 it's pretty well worth it. I use the following: http://www.sexwaxdealer.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.displayproduct_ID=3ParentCat=1 _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Building
Wayne said Our little 2D fasteners are an integral part of these designs, holding together PCBs and panels at edges and corners. Wayne, I have thought about your unique construction technique and am impressed with the results. When the K3 box arrived a year ago I thought: Where's the case? Something must be missing. All of us home builders fret over cases. I know you guys are not in the parts business but it would be nice if you could offer 2-D fasteners and blank panels. Mike Scott - AE6WA Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA) NAQCC 3535 K3-100 #508 / KX1 #1311 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Building
Hi Mike, Wayne said Our little 2D fasteners are an integral part of these designs, holding together PCBs and panels at edges and corners. Wayne, I have thought about your unique construction technique and am impressed with the results. When the K3 box arrived a year ago I thought: Where's the case? Something must be missing. All of us home builders fret over cases. I know you guys are not in the parts business but it would be nice if you could offer 2-D fasteners and blank panels. I believe we have sold 2D fasteners to experimenters in the past; check with sa...@elecraft.com. We also sell blank project enclosures styled to match the K2 (EC2) and K1 (EC1). There are two different height tilt stands for the EC2: ETS15 (1.5) and ETS2 (2.5). You'll find these on our order page. 73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Building
I believe we have sold 2D fasteners to experimenters in the past; check with sa...@elecraft.com. We also sell blank project enclosures styled to match the K2 (EC2) and K1 (EC1). There are two different height tilt stands for the EC2: ETS15 (1.5) and ETS2 (2.5). You'll find these on our order page. 73, Wayne N6KR Would love to see a K3 size cabinet (parts) with a blank front and rear panel, would like to enclose a switching power supply, speaker etc in a matching cabinet. Merv KH7C __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Building
I agree. The EC2 is too small for my anticipated balanced tuner project. John W2XS Merv wrote: Would love to see a K3 size cabinet (parts) with a blank front and rear panel. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Noise-Reduction-tp2727716p2754922.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Building
The 2D (where did that name come from?) fasteners are handy, but they don't maintain much in the way of shielding integrity. If you want decent shielding then you need continuous contact between panels and a lot of screws. You could always make your own, for example, here's a photo of an amplifier I built about 30 years ago that shows what I'm talking about (although for *really* tight shielding twice as many screws would be called for): http://k6mhe.com/n7ws/N7WS_8877_1.jpg Wes Stewart, N7WS ps. If you would like to own this, contact me off list. --- On Fri, 5/1/09, Mike Scott m...@paxsen.com wrote: From: Mike Scott m...@paxsen.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Building To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:34 AM Wayne said Our little 2D fasteners are an integral part of these designs, holding together PCBs and panels at edges and corners. Wayne, I have thought about your unique construction technique and am impressed with the results. When the K3 box arrived a year ago I thought: Where's the case? Something must be missing. All of us home builders fret over cases. I know you guys are not in the parts business but it would be nice if you could offer 2-D fasteners and blank panels. Mike Scott - AE6WA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Building
From: wayne burdick n...@elecraft.com Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:20:30 -0700 Hi Mike, Wayne said Our little 2D fasteners are an integral part of these designs, holding together PCBs and panels at edges and corners. I believe we have sold 2D fasteners to experimenters in the past; check with sa...@elecraft.com. We also sell blank project enclosures styled to match the K2 (EC2) and K1 (EC1). There are two different height tilt stands for the EC2: ETS15 (1.5) and ETS2 (2.5). You'll find these on our order page. I bought a few, and then built a box that's the same width and depth as the K2, but high enough for the Clifton Labs Z90 panadapter. It's got one piece with two bends in parallel (the front panel), two pieces with only one bend (bottom and top) and two pieces that are just flat. I had to set the shear fence ONCE to get the widths cut. There's no nothcing necessary either in the sheet metal nor in the brake. I think the design shows genius. 73, doug __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Building
On Fri, 1 May 2009 11:20:30 -0700, wayne burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: [snip] We also sell blank project enclosures styled to match the K2 (EC2) and K1 (EC1). There are two different height tilt stands for the EC2: ETS15 (1.5) and ETS2 (2.5). You'll find these on our order page. 73, Wayne N6KR [snip] I'd like to see some small enclosures for things like the home brew in shack end of things like coaxial switching units, Mic switching assemblies, etc. (4x3x2, 4x6x3, etc.) Now that I have two k3 XCVR's I'd like to construct some Mic switching assemblies, etc. For my VHF UHF activities I'd like to have a small enclosure for switching coaxial relays up on the tower. Tom, N5GE K3 #806, K3 #1055 XV144, XV432 W1 and other small kits. http://www.n5ge.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Building
Tom, If you want smaller than the K3, the EC1 and EC2 enclosures sound like what you may be looking for. Of course, they are K2 gray color, but a bit of spray paint can change them to K3 black (but with a wrinkle texture). Of course, there is alway the TenTec enclosures if the EC1 and EC2 do not fit the bill - and several other enclosures are available from the catalog pages of Mouser and DigiKey. 73, Don W3FPR Radio Amateur N5GE wrote: On Fri, 1 May 2009 11:20:30 -0700, wayne burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: [snip] We also sell blank project enclosures styled to match the K2 (EC2) and K1 (EC1). There are two different height tilt stands for the EC2: ETS15 (1.5) and ETS2 (2.5). You'll find these on our order page. 73, Wayne N6KR [snip] I'd like to see some small enclosures for things like the home brew in shack end of things like coaxial switching units, Mic switching assemblies, etc. (4x3x2, 4x6x3, etc.) Now that I have two k3 XCVR's I'd like to construct some Mic switching assemblies, etc. For my VHF UHF activities I'd like to have a small enclosure for switching coaxial relays up on the tower. Tom, N5GE K3 #806, K3 #1055 XV144, XV432 W1 and other small kits. http://www.n5ge.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Building
On Fri, 01 May 2009 23:29:53 -0400, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Tom, If you want smaller than the K3, the EC1 and EC2 enclosures sound like what you may be looking for. Of course, they are K2 gray color, but a bit of spray paint can change them to K3 black (but with a wrinkle texture). Of course, there is alway the TenTec enclosures if the EC1 and EC2 do not fit the bill - and several other enclosures are available from the catalog pages of Mouser and DigiKey. 73, Don W3FPR [snip] Thanks, Don. I'll take a look at them. Now to bed. Going to Oklahoma in the morning to look at some possible rover sites for VHF/UHF. 73, Tom, N5GE K3 #806, K3 #1055 XV144, XV432 W1 and other small kits. http://www.n5ge.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Building
I just started building my K3/100 kit and I have to say.I've been ambushed. I bought the kit mainly to save some money and I wasn't really looking for any enjoyment during the building process. I was wrong - it's really fun and rewarding. The instructions are excellent and I'm having a ball. 73 de Terry KK6T K3 #2965 (the serial# sticker just went on this morning) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Building
That's the idea! :-) 73 and have fun! Eric WA6HHQ --- Terry wrote: I just started building my K3/100 kit and I have to say.I've been ambushed. I bought the kit mainly to save some money and I wasn't really looking for any enjoyment during the building process. I was wrong - it's really fun and rewarding. The instructions are excellent and I'm having a ball. 73 de Terry KK6T K3 #2965 (the serial# sticker just went on this morning) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Building
Let me ask a question while this thread is still active. Having the RF board act as the structural backbone is unique in my experience. Is this a common method of construction as opposed to a traditional chassis? As I add panels (side, back) to this I'm amazed at how strong and rigid the structure seems. 73 de Terry KK6T K3 #2965 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Building
Hi Terry, This was a bit of an experiment when we designed our first product, the K2, about 10 years ago. But we've used the same method on many products since then, and it works very well, keeping things light yet rigid. Our little 2D fasteners are an integral part of these designs, holding together PCBs and panels at edges and corners. The net result is that the K3 weighs only about 8 to 9 pounds, compared to 30 to 55 pounds for competing rigs. 73, Wayne N6KR On Apr 30, 2009, at 12:00 PM, Terry wrote: Let me ask a question while this thread is still active. Having the RF board act as the structural backbone is unique in my experience. Is this a common method of construction as opposed to a traditional chassis? As I add panels (side, back) to this I'm amazed at how strong and rigid the structure seems. 73 de Terry KK6T K3 #2965 --- http://www.elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Building
Hi Terry, The RF board is an excellent part to start assembly with because it is wide enough to connect all the panel pieces to. After all, the purpose of the case is to protect the innards (RF board included). So the RF board is used to initially align the case pieces. After a while in the building process the case becomes the principal support for the radio. So you end up with a chassis just like with the older type of radios. You end up with a light, but strong chassis. One advantage is that you can always take a side of the chassis off to access a part of the radio inside. The K2 is very similar. Being a structural engineer, I have been always impressed with the Elecraft radios' structural integrity. Steve, W2MY -Original Message- Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Building Having the RF board act as the structural backbone is unique in my experience. I 73 de Terry KK6T K3 #2965 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit Building
The K2 was a similar experience for me, from the build perspective. I purchased it to have the best CW rig, and built it to save money. I had much more fun building it than I had expected. Dave Wilburn NM4M K2/100 S/N 5982 K3/100 S/N 766 wayne burdick wrote: Hi Terry, This was a bit of an experiment when we designed our first product, the K2, about 10 years ago. But we've used the same method on many products since then, and it works very well, keeping things light yet rigid. Our little 2D fasteners are an integral part of these designs, holding together PCBs and panels at edges and corners. The net result is that the K3 weighs only about 8 to 9 pounds, compared to 30 to 55 pounds for competing rigs. 73, Wayne N6KR On Apr 30, 2009, at 12:00 PM, Terry wrote: Let me ask a question while this thread is still active. Having the RF board act as the structural backbone is unique in my experience. Is this a common method of construction as opposed to a traditional chassis? As I add panels (side, back) to this I'm amazed at how strong and rigid the structure seems. 73 de Terry KK6T K3 #2965 --- http://www.elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Kit - 1/2 nuts on front panel
OK - what kind of wrench can be used on the 1/2 front panel nuts (AF, RF, etc) to NOT scratch the panel? 73 de Terry KK6T K3 #2965 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit - 1/2 nuts on front panel
A socket wrench with some cellophane tape across the face of the socket (use a razor blade to cut out the inside of the hole). 73, Dave AB7E Terry wrote: OK - what kind of wrench can be used on the 1/2 front panel nuts (AF, RF, etc) to NOT scratch the panel? 73 de Terry KK6T K3 #2965 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit - 1/2 nuts on front panel
OK - what kind of wrench can be used on the 1/2 front panel nuts (AF, RF, etc) to NOT scratch the panel? A metric socket worked OK for me, provided it's deep enough to fit the wrench into the socket without fouling the pot shaft (sometimes need to just place the end of the wrench into the socket without pushing it all the way home, but be careful). Sorry, I don't recall the size. Pliers are dangerous but as a last resort you might try protecting the surrounding area of case with some card and be *extremely* careful while you tighten the nut. If you're going to slip, try to make sure to keep scratches within the area that will be covered by the knobs! 73 GL Gary ZL2iFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit - 1/2 nuts on front panel
A nut driver or a deep socket with electrical tape on the face to avoid scratching the panel. Rob NV5E Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:38:02 -0700 From: te...@kk6t.com To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Kit - 1/2 nuts on front panel OK - what kind of wrench can be used on the 1/2 front panel nuts (AF, RF, etc) to NOT scratch the panel? 73 de Terry KK6T K3 #2965 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates2_042009 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit - 1/2 nuts on front panel
Pliers or an adjustable wrench of the proper size works well. Just engage the nut without pressing against the front panel. Position the pliers or wrench at right angles to the panel and grip the nut without pressing against the paint. You don't need anywhere enough torque to need to position the tool parallel with the panel. If you have one, a suitable socket is FB. You don't need the torque of a handle, so even a normal, shallow socket is fine twisted by your fingers (a.k.a. poor man's nut driver). That also allows you to avoid pressing the socket against the painted panel to avoid scratches much easier than if you try tightening it with a handle. Like every other fastener in the K3, over-tightening is as bad as leaving the fastener loose. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- OK - what kind of wrench can be used on the 1/2 front panel nuts (AF, RF, etc) to NOT scratch the panel? 73 de Terry KK6T K3 #2965 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Kit - foam light blockers
Are the foam pieces supposed to stick down to the second layer of LCD or wedged all the way down to the switch substrate? 73 de Terry KK6T K3 #2965 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Kit - 1/2 nuts on front panel
There are nut drivers made by Xcelite (and others) that fit these knurled nuts. There is one model that's adjustable by means of a sliding collar. There is an almost identical nut used on the K2's speaker jack, but with two slots to add traction. Xcelite also makes these. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP elecraftcov...@rfwave.net http://tinyurl.com/7lm3m5 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit - foam light blockers
Are the foam pieces supposed to stick down to the second layer of LCD or wedged all the way down to the switch substrate? I had the same question a couple of weeks back Terry! Ron told me: That step of the assembly procedure says it all: The blockers should be nearly flush with the front edge of the LCD to block the excess light that leaks out of each end of the display. It's no more complicated than that. Early testing of the K3 showed that enough light leaked out of the ends of the display that you could see it around the edge of the buttons nearest the display, especially in dim room light. Wayne added the blockers to stop that small amount of light leakage. 73 GL Gary ZL2iFB PS There is a neat searchable version of this mailing list at Nabble.com. Try this search for example: http://n2.nabble.com/forum/Search.jtp?forum=365791local=yquery=light+block er __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit - foam light blockers
Terry, The light blockers should ideally stick to the board. If that is not possible, they should stick to the switch substrate (as close to the board as possible. The purpose is to block the light escaping from the ends of the LCD assembly, so if you get them into position at the ends of the LCD in any way that makes them stay there, it is correct, and will provide the proper function. Do not push them down too low - the top surface should be flush with the top of the LCD. 73, Don W3FPR te...@kk6t.com wrote: Are the foam pieces supposed to stick down to the second layer of LCD or wedged all the way down to the switch substrate? 73 de Terry KK6T K3 #2965 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit slight concern
John - I had the exact same experience - reversed several steps to see if I had done something wrong - went back together and same thing occured. It is a tight fit - just loosen several of the 2D screws and give it just a bit of a slight nudge and SLOWLY tighten screws, each a bit at a time, unitl all are tight again - works fine and no smoke!! ( Whew!! ) hihi... now if I can just figure out how to adjust the oscillator without spending three weeks turning the VFO to get to the frequency posting a query on that in just a minute... Dale Probably not a big deal, but in putting together my kit(after 2 months sitting on my bench)I had some difficulty in mating the bottom of the front panel and aligning the connectors to the edge of the RF board. After finally getting that accomplished, the holes at the bottom corners of the front panel didn't quite line up with the threaded holes in the 2D blocks . The 2D blocks are oriented correctly. I had to push against the panel to make the holes line up. Loosening the 2D blocks didn't help and the connectors were seated together with no gaps and inserted properly. Anyway, as I said no big deal, but was concerned because everything prior went together so smoothly and I might have put something together wrong but double checked all my work to make sure I hadn't missed something. Resistance checks were ok and now I am at the point of applying power to test for smoke. This is a fun project. 73, John N1JM - 73, Dale K7DNH -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Kit-slight-concern-tp2538669p2538760.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Kit slight concern
Thanks, Dale. Glad I am not alone, HI! On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Dale Harding K7DNH (via Nabble) ml-user+195342-848167...@n2.nabble.comml-user%2b195342-848167...@n2.nabble.com wrote: John - I had the exact same experience - reversed several steps to see if I had done something wrong - went back together and same thing occured. It is a tight fit - just loosen several of the 2D screws and give it just a bit of a slight nudge and SLOWLY tighten screws, each a bit at a time, unitl all are tight again - works fine and no smoke!! ( Whew!! ) hihi... now if I can just figure out how to adjust the oscillator without spending three weeks turning the VFO to get to the frequency posting a query on that in just a minute... Dale John N1JM wrote: Probably not a big deal, but in putting together my kit(after 2 months sitting on my bench)I had some difficulty in mating the bottom of the front panel and aligning the connectors to the edge of the RF board. After finally getting that accomplished, the holes at the bottom corners of the front panel didn't quite line up with the threaded holes in the 2D blocks . The 2D blocks are oriented correctly. I had to push against the panel to make the holes line up. Loosening the 2D blocks didn't help and the connectors were seated together with no gaps and inserted properly. Anyway, as I said no big deal, but was concerned because everything prior went together so smoothly and I might have put something together wrong but double checked all my work to make sure I hadn't missed something. Resistance checks were ok and now I am at the point of applying power to test for smoke. This is a fun project. 73, John N1JM 73, Dale K7DNH -- This email is a reply to your post @ http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Kit-slight-concern-tp2538669p2538760.html You can reply by email or by visting the link above. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Kit-slight-concern-tp2538669p2539341.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 kit #1244 ERR TXG
Trying to do the transmitter gain alignment (5 watt) Getting the ERR TXG on all bands. KPA3 not installed. Stock 2.7 filter installed only. All modes set to use this filter on xmit using K3 utility. Have run synth alignment ref osc alignment several times. All tmp cables are in correct locations with good connections. Latest firmware 2.46 installed. Looked through archives but no help so far. Any ideas appreciated. 73, Tony W7GO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 kit
Hello I should be getting my K3/10 kit in a couple of months and woud like to know what I will need in the way of test equipment to get it aligned and tuned up? A digital volt meter is about the extent of my test equipment. Besides that I'm a numb brained old man that has to ask the xyl what my name is every morning! It really is almost that bad, should I even be considering building a K3? Thanks Scott N5SM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 kit
For special equipment, you need a DVM, dummy load, and ESD Mat/wrist strap (e.g Radio Shack 276-2370). The kit is not hard to build. It is mostly just a mechanical assembly process and the instructions are good. However, you are assuming several risks in building a kit. -One of the subassemblies may be defective (undetectable in subassembly factory testing). -Something may be missing in the kit, causing a delay. -You may make an assembly error or cause an ESD problem. In those cases, there will be much headscratching, gnashing of teeth, disassembly/reassembly and you may have to ship the radio back for repair. Shipping will cost about fifty bucks, with insurance. On the good side, excellent advice from the Elecraft tech support team will be rapidly provided if you get into a problem. If I were to order another one (that would be #3 for me), I would order it factory-built. There is nothing like a final assembly test to prove that everything is working right. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Big Bear Lake, CA - Original Message - From: Scott McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:43 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 kit Hello I should be getting my K3/10 kit in a couple of months and woud like to know what I will need in the way of test equipment to get it aligned and tuned up? A digital volt meter is about the extent of my test equipment. Besides that I'm a numb brained old man that has to ask the xyl what my name is every morning! It really is almost that bad, should I even be considering building a K3? Thanks Scott N5SM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 kit
Hello I should be getting my K3/10 kit in a couple of months and woud like to know what I will need in the way of test equipment to get it aligned and tuned up? A digital volt meter is about the extent of my test equipment. Besides that I'm a numb brained old man that has to ask the xyl what my name is every morning! It really is almost that bad, should I even be considering building a K3? Thanks Scott N5SM Absolutely Scott, you can build a K3 kit. Your DMM is the only measurement gear required. Add to that a 50 ohm 5W (min) dummy load and you're ready to go in that department. Just follow the step-by-step procedures, and check off each step as you go. That way you do not need to remember were you left off ;) Below is a complete list of the things needed and recommended. If you don't have a dummy load, the Elecraft DL1 will work perfectly and it provides the ability to measure your output power (using your DMM for a readout), but an external RF power meter is *not* required. A signal generator is noted as optional. That's used for calibrating your S-meter, if an exact calibration is important to you. The Elecraft XG1 (40 meter) or XG2 (80/40/20 meter) calibrated signal generator is perfect for that. It's also fun to use in measuring the sensitivity (Signal-to-Noise plus Noise ratio) of the receiver in your K3. If you need any of those items, you can order them now and use them to keep yourself busy while waiting. They do require some soldering, so you will need an soldering iron, but all the parts have leads. You'll see below that you'll need a suitable power supply with a cable fitted with Anderson an PowerPole connector. Recognizing that many Hams do not have such a cable lying around unused, Elecraft includes with the K3 kit a suitable power cable kit gratis. Attaching the PowerPole connector to the cable does require a soldering iron unless you have suitable crimping tools and know how to use them. Here's the list for the K3: 1. #0 and #1 size Phillips screwdrivers. To avoid damaging screws and nuts, do not use a power screwdriver. Use the screwdriver that best fits the screw in each step. 2. Soft cloth or other surface to lay cabinet panels on to avoid scratching. A clean static-dissipating mat is ideal. 3. Pliers or suitable wrenches for tightening 1/4, 3/16 and 1/2 nuts. The 1/2 size is used to tighten nuts on the front panel controls. If available, a deep socket or nut driver is recommended. Pliers or an ordinary wrench can be used, but requires care to avoid damaging the front panel paint. 4. Long nose pliers. 5. Diagonal cutters. 6. Small rule capable of measuring lengths up to 1 (2.5 cm) with an accuracy of at least 1/16 inch (1.6 mm). 7. Digital Multimeter (DMM) for resistance checks. 8. RF 50-ohm, 5 W (minimum) dummy load with low VSWR from 160 meters through 6 meters. 9. Power supply 13.8 VDC nominal (11-15 V) with a cable and Anderson PowerPoleR connector. A power cable kit is provided with your K3 if you do not have a suitable cable with the required Anderson PowerPole connector. The power supply must be capable of providing at least 3 Amperes for a K3/10 and 20 Amperes for a K3/100. (See Specifications in your Owner's manual for more information on power supply recommendations). The following tools are strongly recommended: 1. ESD wrist strap. 2. Static dissipating work mat. Optional Equipment: 1. RF Power Meter with accurate readout from 1 mW to 5 watts, minimum. 2. Signal generator with calibrated 50 uV output at 20 or 40 meters. In addition, two Allen wrenches, 5/64 (2mm) and .050, are supplied with your kit. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 kit problem
My K3 also arrived last Monday and they stated that mine had arrived and that there were a few in the queue in front of it. When I called on Friday they'd stated that mine was on the bench but hadn't gotten worked on yet. They expect that it should ship out early this coming week. I was told that Elecraft shoots for a 1 week turnaround but sometimes things get backed up and it can take up to 2 weeks. Being that one of their repair technicians is on vacation I think that Elecraft has been doing VERY admirably keeping up and keeping us on the air as quickly as they can. Hopefully this status update provides you with some sense of security that Elecraft is doing their best to take care of you. ~Brett (KC7OTG) On Sat, 2008-07-12 at 22:58 -0700, WILLIS COOKE wrote: I had the same experience with 1025 except that when I went back to the VCO CAL stage I got a error. Attempts to cure the problem working with Elecraft were not successful and I returned the transceiver to Elecraft. They have had it since last Monday and I have not heard anything yet. I don't know if they are having difficulty or if they have a cue and have not worked on it yet. I hope to hear something soon. Cookie, K5EWJ --- Dave Hachadorian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just finished building K3 sn 1176. When I went to do the reference oscillator calibration by zero-beating with WWV, I found that the receiver is deaf. Even with a large antenna connected, there is no increase in background noise, and no signals can be heard. When I turned the K3 off and then on again, it came up with ERR IO1. Scary stuff. Any suggestions? Thanks. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 kit problem
I sent mine to Aptos per the instruction that I received even though Gary was the one who tried to help me on the internet. I did receive information that mine had arrived Monday. I hope to hear something next week. I assume that #106 was an error as #106 should have shipped last year sometime. They are pretty busy, so I suppose a cue for repair is not unreasonable, but I am anxious about it none the less. Cookie, K5EWJ --- Mike Penkas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Cookie, My #106 developed the VCO err problem also. After working with Gary for a week, getting a new KSYN3 board and all- still no fix. I mailed it to Gary on the 26th of June and it sat in a UPS warehouse til Thursday when he got back from vacation. I am starting to wonder how many of us are waiting for repairs right now. I think most of us don't mention it on the reflector. Wayne called me on the 26th and wanted me to send the radio directly to him to work on it but I had just got home from the UPS store and already mailed it to AZ per Elecrafts RSA instructions. Mike WA8EBM - Original Message - From: WILLIS COOKE [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave Hachadorian [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 kit problem I had the same experience with 1025 except that when I went back to the VCO CAL stage I got a error. Attempts to cure the problem working with Elecraft were not successful and I returned the transceiver to Elecraft. They have had it since last Monday and I have not heard anything yet. I don't know if they are having difficulty or if they have a cue and have not worked on it yet. I hope to hear something soon. Cookie, K5EWJ --- Dave Hachadorian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just finished building K3 sn 1176. When I went to do the reference oscillator calibration by zero-beating with WWV, I found that the receiver is deaf. Even with a large antenna connected, there is no increase in background noise, and no signals can be heard. When I turned the K3 off and then on again, it came up with ERR IO1. Scary stuff. Any suggestions? Thanks. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 kit problem
Just finished building K3 sn 1176. When I went to do the reference oscillator calibration by zero-beating with WWV, I found that the receiver is deaf. Even with a large antenna connected, there is no increase in background noise, and no signals can be heard. When I turned the K3 off and then on again, it came up with ERR IO1. Scary stuff. Any suggestions? Thanks. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 kit problem
According to the manual: MISO line stuck low (asserted) * De-install option modules one at a time. If no failing option module can be found, there may be a problem on the RF board. Chad WE9V On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Dave Hachadorian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just finished building K3 sn 1176. When I went to do the reference oscillator calibration by zero-beating with WWV, I found that the receiver is deaf. Even with a large antenna connected, there is no increase in background noise, and no signals can be heard. When I turned the K3 off and then on again, it came up with ERR IO1. Scary stuff. Any suggestions? Thanks. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
