Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX by mode only?
Another workaround is to learn to use VOX on phone. I'm not coordinated enough to operate either a foot switch or mike button and talk. VOX to the rescue. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 8/2/2015 23:26 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote: Been chasing the same enhancement for a long time. I don't think it's gonna happen. The workaround is that fldigi and Cocoamodem can key the rig. Dunno about Win programs. 73, Mike NF4L On Aug 2, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Dan Atchison via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I'd like to use VOX on digital modes, but never on phone and I see no way to set it up by mode such that the gain can be set to a certain value on phone (000), but higher on digital modes. Am I correct? Yes, I know I can turn it on and off manually. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to als...@nc.rr.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6086 / Virus Database: 4401/10358 - Release Date: 08/02/15 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX by mode only?
Been chasing the same enhancement for a long time. I don't think it's gonna happen. The workaround is that fldigi and Cocoamodem can key the rig. Dunno about Win programs. 73, Mike NF4L On Aug 2, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Dan Atchison via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: I'd like to use VOX on digital modes, but never on phone and I see no way to set it up by mode such that the gain can be set to a certain value on phone (000), but higher on digital modes. Am I correct? Yes, I know I can turn it on and off manually. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vox not working on ssb ...
MENU:VOX GN (too low?) or MENU:ANTIVOX (too high?) 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 3/2/2014 10:33 AM, Bill NY9H wrote: on my K3 Vox shows on .. in cw mode vox does work as expected... in SSB vox icon shows, but no TX audio /PWR present , in vox mode my ptt switch does key has audio pwr no change changing Mic lin off what have I MISADJUSTED ,,, bill __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vox not working on ssb ...FIXED
MY error indeed,,, having not been using VOX ... I had not correctly set up my micookeyer properly,,, I got that fixed.. Also have learned that my great little Shure 514 hand mic.. ( used for testing ) is wired to short the audio output till you PTT.!! So my testing with the mic was misleading me. TNX for Elecraft management for emailing some ideas,.,,, the K3 was / is working perfectly I was not ,. bill ny9h/3 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] VOX on the K3 - Smooth Voice Controller
This is -exactly- what we do in the DSP for the K3's VOX to eliminate any cutting off of the first syllable. You can talk normally without that 'Ahh' at the beginning of sentences to avoid loss of info ;-) 73, Eric elecraft.com On 2/21/2013 8:07 AM, Wright, Robert wrote: I used to have a box from AA Engineering called a Smooth Voice Controller. It was a VOXer with a short audio delay line (bucket brigade IC) to allow the PTT to get to the radio before your first syllable. The result was no clipping at the beginning of each phrase. The only downside was that monitoring yourself with headphones was tricky with the delay. But the VOX results were very good. I've always thought that this concept would be a great improvement to the K3's VOX and could be done readily in the DSP. It could be a menu setting with the voice delay variable from 0 (normal operation) to some fixed amount. It would only need to be enabled when VOX was on. 73, Bob N7ZO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] VOX on the K3 - Smooth Voice Controller
Eric, Interesting and neat. I should have expected you were already on top of this. :-) I just went back to the K3 and played with it a bit. Just by listening, the monitor delay seems to be the same whether I have VOX enabled or not. This is just the normal acceptable delay I have come to expect in the K3's monitor. The Smooth Voice Controller had a nominal 85mSec delay (QST article April 1992 pg. 42) and, if I recall correctly, seemed much more noticeable than what I am hearing in the K3. Eric, can you comment on the amount of delay used for the K3 VOXing? (Saves me setting up for a measurement.) Does the monitor come before that delay? Am I hearing, in the monitor, what is being transmitted (relative to the PTT-voice timing and first syllable cut-off)? Thanks, Bob N7ZO -Original Message- From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [mailto:e...@elecraft.com] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:49 AM To: Wright, Robert Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] VOX on the K3 - Smooth Voice Controller This is -exactly- what we do in the DSP for the K3's VOX to eliminate any cutting off of the first syllable. You can talk normally without that 'Ahh' at the beginning of sentences to avoid loss of info ;-) 73, Eric elecraft.com On 2/21/2013 8:07 AM, Wright, Robert wrote: I used to have a box from AA Engineering called a Smooth Voice Controller. It was a VOXer with a short audio delay line (bucket brigade IC) to allow the PTT to get to the radio before your first syllable. The result was no clipping at the beginning of each phrase. The only downside was that monitoring yourself with headphones was tricky with the delay. But the VOX results were very good. I've always thought that this concept would be a great improvement to the K3's VOX and could be done readily in the DSP. It could be a menu setting with the voice delay variable from 0 (normal operation) to some fixed amount. It would only need to be enabled when VOX was on. 73, Bob N7ZO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] VOX on the K3 - Smooth Voice Controller
Just a note to say that I recall the monitor delay is adjustable in the Config menu. Rich, n0ce - Original Message - From: Wright, Robert To: e...@elecraft.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] VOX on the K3 - Smooth Voice Controller Eric, Interesting and neat. I should have expected you were already on top of this. :-) I just went back to the K3 and played with it a bit. Just by listening, the monitor delay seems to be the same whether I have VOX enabled or not. This is just the normal acceptable delay I have come to expect in the K3's monitor. The Smooth Voice Controller had a nominal 85mSec delay (QST article April 1992 pg. 42) and, if I recall correctly, seemed much more noticeable than what I am hearing in the K3. Eric, can you comment on the amount of delay used for the K3 VOXing? (Saves me setting up for a measurement.) Does the monitor come before that delay? Am I hearing, in the monitor, what is being transmitted (relative to the PTT-voice timing and first syllable cut-off)? Thanks, Bob N7ZO -Original Message- From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [mailto:e...@elecraft.com] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:49 AM To: Wright, Robert Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] VOX on the K3 - Smooth Voice Controller This is -exactly- what we do in the DSP for the K3's VOX to eliminate any cutting off of the first syllable. You can talk normally without that 'Ahh' at the beginning of sentences to avoid loss of info ;-) 73, Eric elecraft.com On 2/21/2013 8:07 AM, Wright, Robert wrote: I used to have a box from AA Engineering called a Smooth Voice Controller. It was a VOXer with a short audio delay line (bucket brigade IC) to allow the PTT to get to the radio before your first syllable. The result was no clipping at the beginning of each phrase. The only downside was that monitoring yourself with headphones was tricky with the delay. But the VOX results were very good. I've always thought that this concept would be a great improvement to the K3's VOX and could be done readily in the DSP. It could be a menu setting with the voice delay variable from 0 (normal operation) to some fixed amount. It would only need to be enabled when VOX was on. 73, Bob N7ZO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] VOX on the K3 - Smooth Voice Controller
The DSP Tx audio filtering adds a delay of 10 to 15 msec (I don't remember the exact value off the top of my head) but the VOX detector is before the filtering. The net result is that very little, if any, of the first syllable is clipped when using VOX. The monitor is derived from the 15 kHz IF within the DSP, which only happen when the radio is in transmit, so you can hear if any syllable truncation is occurring and adjust things accordingly. There is an menu option to bypass the 15 kHz IF demodulation for monitoring and just pass the audio through, but this is bypassed when you adjust mic gain or clipping so you can hear the effect of the adjustment. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] VOX on the K3 - Smooth Voice Controller
Thanks Lyle for the good explanation. And, Rich, yes, I found CONFIG:TX MON in the PDF manual. (It was not in my printed manual.) Mine is set to Normal. So the VOX PTT to voice delay is an artifact of the DSP filtering delays. And the difference I was hearing (and remember of the Smooth Voice Controller) is the difference between the 10-15mSec and 85mSec. So let me reword my original comments: It would be really neat if the K3 had a setting for 85mSec or so of voice delay on the VOX. The current 10-15mSec is better than zero but still does not approach the really smooth VOXing achieved by the AA box at 85mSec or so. Love my K3 even if it doesn't have 85mSec. This is just frosting on the VOX. :-) 73, Bob N7ZO -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lyle Johnson Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:19 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] VOX on the K3 - Smooth Voice Controller The DSP Tx audio filtering adds a delay of 10 to 15 msec (I don't remember the exact value off the top of my head) but the VOX detector is before the filtering. The net result is that very little, if any, of the first syllable is clipped when using VOX. The monitor is derived from the 15 kHz IF within the DSP, which only happen when the radio is in transmit, so you can hear if any syllable truncation is occurring and adjust things accordingly. There is an menu option to bypass the 15 kHz IF demodulation for monitoring and just pass the audio through, but this is bypassed when you adjust mic gain or clipping so you can hear the effect of the adjustment. 73, Lyle KK7P - Eric, Interesting and neat. I should have expected you were already on top of this. :-) I just went back to the K3 and played with it a bit. Just by listening, the monitor delay seems to be the same whether I have VOX enabled or not. This is just the normal acceptable delay I have come to expect in the K3's monitor. The Smooth Voice Controller had a nominal 85mSec delay (QST article April 1992 pg. 42) and, if I recall correctly, seemed much more noticeable than what I am hearing in the K3. Eric, can you comment on the amount of delay used for the K3 VOXing? (Saves me setting up for a measurement.) Does the monitor come before that delay? Am I hearing, in the monitor, what is being transmitted (relative to the PTT-voice timing and first syllable cut-off)? Thanks, Bob N7ZO -Original Message- From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [mailto:e...@elecraft.com] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:49 AM To: Wright, Robert Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] VOX on the K3 - Smooth Voice Controller This is -exactly- what we do in the DSP for the K3's VOX to eliminate any cutting off of the first syllable. You can talk normally without that 'Ahh' at the beginning of sentences to avoid loss of info ;-) 73, Eric elecraft.com On 2/21/2013 8:07 AM, Wright, Robert wrote: I used to have a box from AA Engineering called a Smooth Voice Controller. It was a VOXer with a short audio delay line (bucket brigade IC) to allow the PTT to get to the radio before your first syllable. The result was no clipping at the beginning of each phrase. The only downside was that monitoring yourself with headphones was tricky with the delay. But the VOX results were very good. I've always thought that this concept would be a great improvement to the K3's VOX and could be done readily in the DSP. It could be a menu setting with the voice delay variable from 0 (normal operation) to some fixed amount. It would only need to be enabled when VOX was on. 73, Bob N7ZO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] VOX on the K3 - Smooth Voice Controller
On 2/21/2013 10:39 AM, Wright, Robert wrote: The DSP Tx audio filtering adds a delay of 10 to 15 msec I'm not a DSP programmer, but we started using DSP extensively in pro audio nearly 20 years ago, so as system designers, we had to learn a lot about how it behaves. It's helps to remember that ANY DSP takes time. Each A/D and D/A conversion takes time. The time difference between input and output is called latency, and is a function of the processor, data formats, bandwidths, and rates, the processing algorithms, the need to minimize distortions of various sorts, and, to some extent, the skill of the programmer. Delay can also be added at any point in the signal chain to accomplish things like the technique described to improve VOX action. Another use is improving response time for peak limiting -- the main signal path has a bit of delay added before the limiting block, but the detector and control to the limiting block are un-delayed (or have no intentional delay). The human brain has varying sensitivity to delay, depending on many factors. Most of us are not bothered by hearing a copy of our own speech delayed less than about 10 msec; increase that delay to more than about 50 msec and we have trouble talking. Most sound system professionals have heard even the best announcers slow down and stop talking when confronted with 100 msec of delay, which is what happens when the talker is 120 ft or so from the speakers in a big sound system. 73, Jim K9YC . __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] VOX on the K3 - Smooth Voice Controller
Ray, Right, but you'd never be aware of the delay unless the monitor was turned on. 73, Bob N7ZO -Original Message- From: Ray Sills [mailto:raysil...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:57 AM To: Wright, Robert Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] VOX on the K3 - Smooth Voice Controller Hi Bob: I don't know what the delay interval is... but remember: sound travels about 1000 feet per second, so a 1 millisecond delay is what you encounter when the sound source is 1 foot from you. 85 milliseconds is what you would experience from a source 85 feet away. Most of the time, we are not bothered by delays of 30 milliseconds or less. 73 de Ray K2ULR On Feb 21, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Wright, Robert wrote: Eric, Interesting and neat. I should have expected you were already on top of this. :-) I just went back to the K3 and played with it a bit. Just by listening, the monitor delay seems to be the same whether I have VOX enabled or not. This is just the normal acceptable delay I have come to expect in the K3's monitor. The Smooth Voice Controller had a nominal 85mSec delay (QST article April 1992 pg. 42) and, if I recall correctly, seemed much more noticeable than what I am hearing in the K3. Eric, can you comment on the amount of delay used for the K3 VOXing? (Saves me setting up for a measurement.) Does the monitor come before that delay? Am I hearing, in the monitor, what is being transmitted (relative to the PTT-voice timing and first syllable cut-off)? Thanks, Bob N7ZO -Original Message- From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [mailto:e...@elecraft.com] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:49 AM To: Wright, Robert Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] VOX on the K3 - Smooth Voice Controller This is -exactly- what we do in the DSP for the K3's VOX to eliminate any cutting off of the first syllable. You can talk normally without that 'Ahh' at the beginning of sentences to avoid loss of info ;-) 73, Eric elecraft.com On 2/21/2013 8:07 AM, Wright, Robert wrote: I used to have a box from AA Engineering called a Smooth Voice Controller. It was a VOXer with a short audio delay line (bucket brigade IC) to allow the PTT to get to the radio before your first syllable. The result was no clipping at the beginning of each phrase. The only downside was that monitoring yourself with headphones was tricky with the delay. But the VOX results were very good. I've always thought that this concept would be a great improvement to the K3's VOX and could be done readily in the DSP. It could be a menu setting with the voice delay variable from 0 (normal operation) to some fixed amount. It would only need to be enabled when VOX was on. 73, Bob N7ZO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 vox delay
Using the PDF file... Right click the PDF Page, choose find from the pop-up menu, type VOX delay in the text box, click the right pointer on the right side of the find drop-down.. The first click will find 'VOX DELAY' on page five. The second will find it again on page fourteen. The third click will find it in the index on page eighty five. 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE On Tue, 24 May 2011 11:58:32 -0400, Lou Kolb louk...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a menu item that deals with vox delay adjustment? Using the front panel control, I can't seem to get it below just under a second and I know it should be adjustable down to 50-MS. Thanks. Lou -- WA3MIX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX delay, BG command
Isn't the vox delay control (secondary function, not menu) what you want. This is documented on page 14 of the latest edition of the user guide. 73, phil, K7PEH On Apr 4, 2011, at 6:13 AM, kcflyers wrote: I have been using my K3 remotely for several months now. Two requests regarding remote commands. (1) There is no VOX delay command. Using Vox remotely, what is good for normal QSO talking is too slow for DX or Contesting. Would really like a software command to be able to change delay. (2) BG command does not work on transmit. Thus no bargraph indication on transmit. Programmer's guide says this should indicate Power Output or ALC. Does neither. Needs fixing. These may seem to be minor software problems, but they definitely affect the easy of remote operation of the K3. John, KØIZ -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-VOX-delay-BG-command-tp6238497p6238497.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX delay, BG command
Yes, you are correct. But this requires being at the radio to turn the knob. I am running K3 remotely, and according to programmer's guide, there is no command to do this via software.John. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-VOX-delay-BG-command-tp6238497p6238876.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX delay, BG command
Hi John, There's a new field-test firmware release that includes an updated BG command. In transmit mode, BG now returns 00 - 12 (PWR) or 00 - 07 (ALC) depending on the METER selection. A VOX set command is on my short list. 73, Wayne N6KR On Apr 4, 2011, at 6:13 AM, kcflyers wrote: I have been using my K3 remotely for several months now. Two requests regarding remote commands. (1) There is no VOX delay command. Using Vox remotely, what is good for normal QSO talking is too slow for DX or Contesting. Would really like a software command to be able to change delay. (2) BG command does not work on transmit. Thus no bargraph indication on transmit. Programmer's guide says this should indicate Power Output or ALC. Does neither. Needs fixing. These may seem to be minor software problems, but they definitely affect the easy of remote operation of the K3. John, KØIZ -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-VOX-delay-BG-command-tp6238497p6238497.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX delay, BG command
Excellent! Thanks Wayne. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-VOX-delay-BG-command-tp6238497p6239211.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX
Yes, this is the reason for using VOX to turn digital mode transmit on and off. Makes life in the real world of multiple simultaneous software applications much easier. I routinely run two instances of WSJT along with JT65-HF at the the same time. (I could try to run them all through LP-BRIDGE, except that it's just one more layer of complex code, and I know the main K-3 utility, K3-EZ, and (I think) K3 Frequency Memory Editor won't run reliably through LP-BRIDGE. VOX is just a simpler solution for digital.) LOL I operate both WSJT and SSB on 6 meters. Usually when I switch from WSJT mode to SSB mode (with the VOX on), my mic trips the transmitter a few times until I remember to shut off the VOX. One of the local 6m hams, who is ALWAYS monitoring 50125, keys his rig and coughs a couple times into his mic, just to needle me. This kind of teasing is innocuous enough, but I could sure do without it. :-/ When can we get independent VOX status for data modes and SSB? Assuming it's still on the list, how far down the list is it, Wayne? Bill W5WVO -- From: vk4cmv vk4...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 03:42 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX You could tie up another serial port for PTT in most instances - but that's just more cabling. There's a tendency, in this shack at least, to run more than one application at a time - so there would be contention with a serial port across multiple applications. 73 Julian VK4CMV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX
I have requested this a couple times. So far it has not made its way into the firmware. I use Direct imput for my JT65 PSK modes and want to be able to leave VOX set for data and PTT for Phone. I really really wish they would add this. WOuld help avoid accidental keying of the mic when switching modes. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-VOX-tp5326508p5645132.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX
I thought this had been put on the wish list, just over a year ago: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Data-mode-VOX-persists-to-USB-td3778881.html?by-user=t#a3778881 There's a real mixture of PTT methods out there - WSJT can use a serial port, WSPR can now use CAT and serial port, HRD can use CAT and serial port JT65-HF can use a serial port - to name a few. The lowest common denominator and simplest option for all these is the use of VOX in data mode. It would be nice to swing back and forth between voice and data without having to worry about whether the VOX is on/off. You could tie up another serial port for PTT in most instances - but that's just more cabling. There's a tendency, in this shack at least, to run more than one application at a time - so there would be contention with a serial port across multiple applications. 73 Julian VK4CMV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-VOX-tp5326508p5645849.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX
Over On 7/22/2010 1:59 PM, Mike wrote: The K3 seems to remember VOX on/off on a per band basis. Any chance to have it on a per mode basis? 73, Mike NF4L __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX
It's already there on a mode group (SSB/AM/FM/DATA vs. CW/FSK_D/PSK_D) basis. See the manual ... 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 7/23/2010 8:20 AM, Mike wrote: Over On 7/22/2010 1:59 PM, Mike wrote: The K3 seems to remember VOX on/off on a per band basis. Any chance to have it on a per mode basis? 73, Mike NF4L __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX
Thanks Joe. I looked in the manual (paper and PDF), and didn't find what I wanted. Could you cite a page? What I'm after is PTT on SSB (the only voice mode I have) , VOX on CW, AFSK A. 73, Mike On 7/23/2010 11:05 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: It's already there on a mode group (SSB/AM/FM/DATA vs. CW/FSK_D/PSK_D) basis. See the manual ... 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 7/23/2010 8:20 AM, Mike wrote: Over On 7/22/2010 1:59 PM, Mike wrote: The K3 seems to remember VOX on/off on a per band basis. Any chance to have it on a per mode basis? 73, Mike NF4L __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX
What I'm after is PTT on SSB (the only voice mode I have) , VOX on CW, AFSK A. CW's VOX is independent, all the other modes lump VOX together, so you can't have VOX on DATA and no VOX on SSB without pressing the front panel button (or sending a serial port command) to set the VOX state the way you want it. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX
What I'm after is PTT on SSB (the only voice mode I have) , VOX on CW, AFSK A. That's not the way it works. As I said below, the settings are separate on a per group - audio input (SSB, AM, FM, AFSK A, DATA A) vs. paddle input (CW, FSK D, PSK D) - basis. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 7/23/2010 5:40 PM, Mike wrote: Thanks Joe. I looked in the manual (paper and PDF), and didn't find what I wanted. Could you cite a page? What I'm after is PTT on SSB (the only voice mode I have) , VOX on CW, AFSK A. 73, Mike On 7/23/2010 11:05 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: It's already there on a mode group (SSB/AM/FM/DATA vs. CW/FSK_D/PSK_D) basis. See the manual ... 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 7/23/2010 8:20 AM, Mike wrote: Over On 7/22/2010 1:59 PM, Mike wrote: The K3 seems to remember VOX on/off on a per band basis. Any chance to have it on a per mode basis? 73, Mike NF4L __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX
Thanks, Lyle. Maybe someday it could make it's way onto the wish list. :-( 73, Mike On 7/23/2010 5:59 PM, Lyle Johnson wrote: What I'm after is PTT on SSB (the only voice mode I have) , VOX on CW, AFSK A. CW's VOX is independent, all the other modes lump VOX together, so you can't have VOX on DATA and no VOX on SSB without pressing the front panel button (or sending a serial port command) to set the VOX state the way you want it. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX
On third thought, disregard the previous post, and revert to #1. On 7/22/2010 2:01 PM, Mike wrote: Never mind. Senior-itis strikes again. On 7/22/2010 1:59 PM, Mike wrote: The K3 seems to remember VOX on/off on a per band basis. Any chance to have it on a per mode basis? 73, Mike NF4L __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX
Please. Dunc, W5DC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Vox settings per mode
See http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Data-mode-VOX-persists-to-USB-td3778881.html#a3778881 rgds, Julian -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Vox-settings-per-mode-tp5207116p5217107.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Vox settings per mode
Also check your VOX level in the menu. It needs to be turned up very high when using it for digital modes. You are correct to use DataA for PSK and other audio based digital modes. AFSK can be used for RTTY and gives you the advantage of using the dual peak filters. Other than that there's no difference between AFSK and DataA. AFSK also sets the dial display to the currently selected MARK frequency rather than DATA A's suppressed carrier frequency. In general, if you are using a waterfall mode, use DATA A. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Vox settings per mode
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:02:42 -0700, you wrote: AFSK also sets the dial display to the currently selected MARK frequency rather than DATA A's suppressed carrier frequency. In general, if you are using a waterfall mode, use DATA A. Please put mode dependent VOX on the 'wish list'. -- OV1A Jens Whoever ordered pizza by fax, please clean the machine. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Vox settings per mode
Hold down DATA MD and make sure that you are in a AFSK mode. ~Brett (N7MG) On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 20:01 -0700, Brandon673 wrote: Is there something I'm missing? I am unable to setup my K3 to use VOX anytime its in digital mode without it changing my SSB modes also over to VOX. I only use VOX for Digital Modes and never use it for SSB/FM/AM. Does anyone else have this issue or know if there is a fix for it? Is this a firmware issue? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Vox settings per mode
Ive been using Data A because I do PSK31 and JT65a all via the Data audio ports in the back into my soundcard. So I should be using AFSK mode instead?? Brandon On Jun 21, 2010, at 8:28 PM, Brett Howard [via Elecraft] wrote: Hold down DATA MD and make sure that you are in a AFSK mode. ~Brett (N7MG) On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 20:01 -0700, Brandon673 wrote: Is there something I'm missing? I am unable to setup my K3 to use VOX anytime its in digital mode without it changing my SSB modes also over to VOX. I only use VOX for Digital Modes and never use it for SSB/FM/AM. Does anyone else have this issue or know if there is a fix for it? Is this a firmware issue? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html View message @ http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Vox-settings-per-mode-tp5207116p5207157.html To unsubscribe from K3 Vox settings per mode, click here. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Vox-settings-per-mode-tp5207116p5207160.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Vox settings per mode
Is there something I'm missing? I am unable to setup my K3 to use VOX anytime its in digital mode without it changing my SSB modes also over to VOX. That's the way the K3 operates. There are two mode groups; CW/FSK D/PSK D and SSB/AM/FM/DATA A/AFSK A. Note the A in DATA A and AFSK A ... that indicates Audio where the D in FSK D/PSK D indicates direct as in direct keying. VOX applies to the Audio group as a whole. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/21/2010 11:01 PM, Brandon673 wrote: Is there something I'm missing? I am unable to setup my K3 to use VOX anytime its in digital mode without it changing my SSB modes also over to VOX. I only use VOX for Digital Modes and never use it for SSB/FM/AM. Does anyone else have this issue or know if there is a fix for it? Is this a firmware issue? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Vox settings per mode
So no solution? I want VOX to be on no matter what band im on when i select Data Mode. Anytime I change out of Data mode I want VOX to be off. Otherwise when I switch from doing digital modes i occasionally forget to turn VOX off and i go into TX. Brandon On Jun 21, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV-4 [via Elecraft] wrote: Is there something I'm missing? I am unable to setup my K3 to use VOX anytime its in digital mode without it changing my SSB modes also over to VOX. That's the way the K3 operates. There are two mode groups; CW/FSK D/PSK D and SSB/AM/FM/DATA A/AFSK A. Note the A in DATA A and AFSK A ... that indicates Audio where the D in FSK D/PSK D indicates direct as in direct keying. VOX applies to the Audio group as a whole. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/21/2010 11:01 PM, Brandon673 wrote: Is there something I'm missing? I am unable to setup my K3 to use VOX anytime its in digital mode without it changing my SSB modes also over to VOX. I only use VOX for Digital Modes and never use it for SSB/FM/AM. Does anyone else have this issue or know if there is a fix for it? Is this a firmware issue? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html View message @ http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Vox-settings-per-mode-tp5207116p5207162.html To unsubscribe from K3 Vox settings per mode, click here. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Vox-settings-per-mode-tp5207116p5207166.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Vox settings per mode
I'd have to go check but I'm pretty sure that VOX is remembered per band/per mode so you just have to set it that way and it should remember it. ~Brett (N7MG) On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 20:36 -0700, Brandon673 wrote: So no solution? I want VOX to be on no matter what band im on when i select Data Mode. Anytime I change out of Data mode I want VOX to be off. Otherwise when I switch from doing digital modes i occasionally forget to turn VOX off and i go into TX. Brandon On Jun 21, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV-4 [via Elecraft] wrote: Is there something I'm missing? I am unable to setup my K3 to use VOX anytime its in digital mode without it changing my SSB modes also over to VOX. That's the way the K3 operates. There are two mode groups; CW/FSK D/PSK D and SSB/AM/FM/DATA A/AFSK A. Note the A in DATA A and AFSK A ... that indicates Audio where the D in FSK D/PSK D indicates direct as in direct keying. VOX applies to the Audio group as a whole. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/21/2010 11:01 PM, Brandon673 wrote: Is there something I'm missing? I am unable to setup my K3 to use VOX anytime its in digital mode without it changing my SSB modes also over to VOX. I only use VOX for Digital Modes and never use it for SSB/FM/AM. Does anyone else have this issue or know if there is a fix for it? Is this a firmware issue? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html View message @ http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Vox-settings-per-mode-tp5207116p5207162.html To unsubscribe from K3 Vox settings per mode, click here. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Vox settings per mode
You seem to be right. The VOX state is also not retained when programming memories. Quite strange. --- On Mon, 6/21/10, Brandon673 bd...@me.com wrote: From: Brandon673 bd...@me.com Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Vox settings per mode To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 9:01 PM Is there something I'm missing? I am unable to setup my K3 to use VOX anytime its in digital mode without it changing my SSB modes also over to VOX. I only use VOX for Digital Modes and never use it for SSB/FM/AM. Does anyone else have this issue or know if there is a fix for it? Is this a firmware issue? -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Vox-settings-per-mode-tp5207116p5207116.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Vox settings per mode
Looks like a firmware Issue. Im sending a Firmware request to Elecraft. Thank you everyone for your replies! Brandon K6BDR -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Vox-settings-per-mode-tp5207116p5207222.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Vox settings per mode
Also check your VOX level in the menu. It needs to be turned up very high when using it for digital modes. You are correct to use DataA for PSK and other audio based digital modes. AFSK can be used for RTTY and gives you the advantage of using the dual peak filters. Other than that there's no difference between AFSK and DataA. 73 Greg AB7R On 6/21/2010 8:40 PM, Brett Howard wrote: I'd have to go check but I'm pretty sure that VOX is remembered per band/per mode so you just have to set it that way and it should remember it. ~Brett (N7MG) On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 20:36 -0700, Brandon673 wrote: So no solution? I want VOX to be on no matter what band im on when i select Data Mode. Anytime I change out of Data mode I want VOX to be off. Otherwise when I switch from doing digital modes i occasionally forget to turn VOX off and i go into TX. Brandon On Jun 21, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV-4 [via Elecraft] wrote: Is there something I'm missing? I am unable to setup my K3 to use VOX anytime its in digital mode without it changing my SSB modes also over to VOX. That's the way the K3 operates. There are two mode groups; CW/FSK D/PSK D and SSB/AM/FM/DATA A/AFSK A. Note the A in DATA A and AFSK A ... that indicates Audio where the D in FSK D/PSK D indicates direct as in direct keying. VOX applies to the Audio group as a whole. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/21/2010 11:01 PM, Brandon673 wrote: Is there something I'm missing? I am unable to setup my K3 to use VOX anytime its in digital mode without it changing my SSB modes also over to VOX. I only use VOX for Digital Modes and never use it for SSB/FM/AM. Does anyone else have this issue or know if there is a fix for it? Is this a firmware issue? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html View message @ http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Vox-settings-per-mode-tp5207116p5207162.html To unsubscribe from K3 Vox settings per mode, click here. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - VOX setting per mode
The opposite is also true. If you turn off VOX in RTTY, it stays off, regardless of previous settings in SSB mode. I suspect it is because DATA A and AFSK A are special cases of SSB. You will find that FSK D and PSK D are special cases of CW as well. The VOX status is maintained separately for the SSB cases (USB/LSB/DATA A/AFSK A) and the CW cases (CW/CW-R/FSK D/ PSK D). 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Wilburn Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:26 PM To: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - VOX setting per mode I am not sure if this is a bug or a feature ;) Start out with the rig in SSB, and the VOX off. Then go to CW mode and the VOX is on. Good so far. Then go to RTTY. VOX is off. In my case, I need VOX on, so I turn it on. Now I go back to SSB where I started out, and VOX is on. Which I usually find out when I lay the headset on the table, or any loud noise. The opposite is also true. If you turn off VOX in RTTY, it stays off, regardless of previous settings in SSB mode. Why do SSB and RTTY have to follow the VOX setting of the other? On RTTY, I operate AFSK and use VOX for keying the rig. I usually have N1MM or DX Labs controlling the rig through the serial port. There may be another solution, but this has always worked well for me. The only problem is what seems to me, to be an inconstancy in the application of VOX. I usually find out the VOX is not on in RTTY, when I try to answer a CQ, and it doesn't work. Is this how it is supposed to work, or am I not doing something correctly? Dave Wilburn NM4M __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - VOX setting per mode
Separate voice/data VOX is on the firmware list. tnx Wayne N6KR On Mar 3, 2009, at 7:53 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: The opposite is also true. If you turn off VOX in RTTY, it stays off, regardless of previous settings in SSB mode. I suspect it is because DATA A and AFSK A are special cases of SSB. You will find that FSK D and PSK D are special cases of CW as well. The VOX status is maintained separately for the SSB cases (USB/LSB/DATA A/AFSK A) and the CW cases (CW/CW-R/FSK D/ PSK D). 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Wilburn Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:26 PM To: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - VOX setting per mode I am not sure if this is a bug or a feature ;) Start out with the rig in SSB, and the VOX off. Then go to CW mode and the VOX is on. Good so far. Then go to RTTY. VOX is off. In my case, I need VOX on, so I turn it on. Now I go back to SSB where I started out, and VOX is on. Which I usually find out when I lay the headset on the table, or any loud noise. The opposite is also true. If you turn off VOX in RTTY, it stays off, regardless of previous settings in SSB mode. Why do SSB and RTTY have to follow the VOX setting of the other? On RTTY, I operate AFSK and use VOX for keying the rig. I usually have N1MM or DX Labs controlling the rig through the serial port. There may be another solution, but this has always worked well for me. The only problem is what seems to me, to be an inconstancy in the application of VOX. I usually find out the VOX is not on in RTTY, when I try to answer a CQ, and it doesn't work. Is this how it is supposed to work, or am I not doing something correctly? Dave Wilburn NM4M __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html --- http://www.elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] VOX issue
I use VOX all the time on the other bands (not done much on 6 yet) and had not comments and can't hear anything with the monitor. Have you tried going into Tx Test mode and listening to your AF via the monitor and headphones? 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- What is the purpose of the giant sequoia tree? The purpose of the giant sequoia tree is to provide shade for the tiny titmouse. -Edward Abbey, naturalist and author (1927-1989) On 9 Jul 2008, at 13:54, Bill W5WVO wrote: After my glowing report about the K3 VOX from the operator's perspective (mine!) a couple days ago, I started using it on the air, and immediately started getting complaints from stations I was working on 6m. The common thread boiled down to something like this: It sounds like you are using a linear with one of those old-fashioned big frame relays that goes ker-CLACK every time you start talking. Obviously there are no old-fashioned relays in the barefoot K3, so this is obviously an artifact of some kind. I'm wondering if anyone else has encountered this problem. I've gone back to the footswitch until I can get this problem resolved. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX Sensitivity
Great news. Thanks. I just loaded the firmware in the new rig, so I didn't have anything in the past to judge by. But I was wondering a bit. Fixing problems before I am can even find them. Too cool. Dave Wilburn K4DGW K2/100 - S/N 5982 K3/100 - S/N 766 For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know. Lyle Johnson wrote: Many of you have observed that the VOX sensitivity is less in the latest code release for the K3. I believe this is now fixed and has been in testing - with satisfactory results so far - since yesterday. Wayne and I are working on a release targeted for later this week intended to fix this problem and a couple of others that have been brought to our attention. We appreciate your patience. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: VOX pumping when notch is turned on
ED, Same thing when you engage NR. NR issue is on the list. Mark --- Ed K1EP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be submitting this the support line, but wanted to know if anyone else has seen this. In SSB mode, with the headphones on (plugged in front panel), I turn on the auto-notch. I get the VOX tripping on and off but when it trips, RX audio starts coming out the speaker as well as the headphones. I have the VOX gain around 10 and anti vox somewhat high, like maybe 50 I think. Using Heil HC-4 element. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3: VOX pumping when notch is turned on
I first saw a similar problem earlier today when I turned on NR on SSB. To remedy it I need to increase the NR setting to something like F(2-4)- (1-4). example - F-1-3 exhibits this problem, but F-4-1 does not exhibit this problem. I wonder if this is a function of the just released firmware? N2TK/NP2, Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed K1EP Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:20 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Elecraft] K3: VOX pumping when notch is turned on I'll be submitting this the support line, but wanted to know if anyone else has seen this. In SSB mode, with the headphones on (plugged in front panel), I turn on the auto-notch. I get the VOX tripping on and off but when it trips, RX audio starts coming out the speaker as well as the headphones. I have the VOX gain around 10 and anti vox somewhat high, like maybe 50 I think. Using Heil HC-4 element. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: VOX pumping when notch is turned on
Please see http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Firmware_problems_known_to_Elec raft%2C_on_the_list_to_be_fixed This is a known issue and Elecraft are waiting for Lyle to return from holiday (hey, they deserve one) to fix it, hopefully won't be long. 73 de M0XDF / K3 #174 On 22/02/2008 19:19, Ed K1EP [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: I'll be submitting this the support line, but wanted to know if anyone else has seen this. In SSB mode, with the headphones on (plugged in front panel), I turn on the auto-notch. I get the VOX tripping on and off but when it trips, RX audio starts coming out the speaker as well as the headphones. I have the VOX gain around 10 and anti vox somewhat high, like maybe 50 I think. Using Heil HC-4 element. -- There is no pillow so soft as a clear conscience. -French proverb ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX
Best VOX that I have ever used. Stewart G3RXQ On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:22:55 -0500, Dave Larson wrote: I just finished over an hour ragchew session with some locals on 10 meter SSB using VOX. I have never operated a rig with a VOX that works as smooth and slick as the one that exists on my K3. Dave, K8AA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX
Hi Dave, I'm interested to know if you were using speakers or a boom/headset. The later DSP radios, IC775 etc when I operated VOX I got a lot of false trips, but I don't use headsets. The best vox I've ever used was in the FT1000 with the vox modified for a certain voice range. Never false tripped. 73 Dale, K9VUJ Dave Larson-2 wrote: I just finished over an hour ragchew session with some locals on 10 meter SSB using VOX. I have never operated a rig with a VOX that works as smooth and slick as the one that exists on my K3. Dave, K8AA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-VOX-tp15219981p15223373.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX
Dale Did you modify the vox for sensitivity or frequency range? 73 David G3UNA I'm interested to know if you were using speakers or a boom/headset. The later DSP radios, IC775 etc when I operated VOX I got a lot of false trips, but I don't use headsets. The best vox I've ever used was in the FT1000 with the vox modified for a certain voice range. Never false tripped. 73 Dale, K9VUJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX
Hi David, I sent you a link and brief description via private e-mail. It was modified for a different frequency response. 73 Dale, K9VUJ David Cutter wrote: Dale Did you modify the vox for sensitivity or frequency range? 73 David G3UNA I'm interested to know if you were using speakers or a boom/headset. The later DSP radios, IC775 etc when I operated VOX I got a lot of false trips, but I don't use headsets. The best vox I've ever used was in the FT1000 with the vox modified for a certain voice range. Never false tripped. 73 Dale, K9VUJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-VOX-tp15219981p15225271.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX
Hi Dale, I was using a Heil Headset. I have used the headset with earphones not plugged in and speaker set for normal listening level and after adjusting the antivox there was no problem with false trips. Dave - Original Message - From: DaleJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 4:57 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX Hi Dave, I'm interested to know if you were using speakers or a boom/headset. The later DSP radios, IC775 etc when I operated VOX I got a lot of false trips, but I don't use headsets. The best vox I've ever used was in the FT1000 with the vox modified for a certain voice range. Never false tripped. 73 Dale, K9VUJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX
The cool part is that I can plug my $8 computer headset into the K3, switch to VOX and sit back in my chair and not touch a thing. My contacts have stated that my cheap headset does not have quite the sound quality of my Heil #5, but that it sure is decent enough for a rag chew. I agree. The VOX sure is smooth. Doug -- K0DXV Dave Larson wrote: I just finished over an hour ragchew session with some locals on 10 meter SSB using VOX. I have never operated a rig with a VOX that works as smooth and slick as the one that exists on my K3. Dave, K8AA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX question
Will the K3 DSP software include a delay in the transmit audio chain to prevent the missing first syllable issue that is common with other VOX systems? That is our intent. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 VOX question
Thanks Lyle. -Original Message- From: Lyle Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 June 2007 20:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX question Will the K3 DSP software include a delay in the transmit audio chain to prevent the missing first syllable issue that is common with other VOX systems? That is our intent. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX question
Will the K3 DSP software include a delay in the transmit audio chain to prevent the missing first syllable issue that is common with other VOX systems? That is our intent. One rig that uses a fixed audio delay effectively to avoid the missing first syllable problem is the Kenwood TS-870. But an unintended consequence of the design is that the transmit audio monitor is, at least for some users, difficult or impossible to listen to. I prefer to monitor my audio to be able to quickly detect problems, but find I have to turn off the monitor on an 870. If an audio delay is used in the K3, I suggest that it should be possible to adjust or at least disable it as a configuration option. Gus Hansen KB0YH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 VOX question
Will the K3 DSP software include a delay in the transmit audio chain to prevent the missing first syllable issue that is common with other VOX systems? That is our intent. If an audio delay is used in the K3, I suggest that it should be possible to adjust or at least disable it as a configuration option. Thank you for the suggestion. We have been working hard to ensure the K3 Rx-to-Tx turnaround time is very fast, and to minimize delays in the system. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
